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What happened to "They've been found out" and "Japan is gonna give them the boot!" and all that clickbaity nonsense? Bit disappointed how everyone's been portraying this, we can't afford to be giving ourselves a false narrative of hope when there's work to do against these toxic 'localizers'.
1. They're not sexist jokes, the localizers are just a bunch of snowflakes. 2. Even if they were sexist jokes, it's not their job to "protect" fans from them, it's their job to translate, that's it, period.
Yeah. While I don't like tasteless fanservice, I just leave it at that. I just make this remark and add "if you like it" speel, the fact these knuckledraggers are crying over fresh air is pretty sad. "Oh, we want to make it how it 'should' be" crock is a overused screen that has several holes in it.
3. As rev mentioned, no one who is buying these care and the people who care dont play these games. Learn from bud light, learn from history as it does infact repeat itself because we are all bumbling fools and completely predictable. Like, if you wanna make money off us and abuse us, atleast do it right cmon man!
Ok, I have seen this argument flung around a couple times, so I feel the need to say something: Lets not get on the level of reality deprivation of some localizers. At least(!) half the jokes in japanese media is simple sexism. If you have been to Japan, a statement like yours would not be possible (yes, I lived, studied and worked in Japan). It is the culture and you may like or not like it, thats up to the individual. Sexism as it is, is viewd different in Japan than the societal west - its not exactly positive, but it is not comparable to Europe and north america. However, its not the job of anyone but the media producers in Japan to change this and it should not happen on the basis of some overly loud people that dont even play those games in the first place. Please just keep the argument and the discussion real and not slide into absurdity like the vocal a-hats.
@@Randleray Yes, and? Who cares. Sorry, when you have a problem with that - don't consume anime or japanese media. And you wanna know an even more crazy truth about japanese media? The most sexist stuff comes from WOMEN! Not from men. Because also in Japan men often don't have the courage for it - but a woman can get scarve-free. And many of them are proud of their jobs. Do you think the seiyuus who voices visual novels with much moaning are ashamed? No they aren't. Do you think Mami Kawada or KOTOKO were ashamed about the games they sang the openings for? No, they weren't. In fact, many of them demanded these jobs. Because imagine that: Also women can be huge perverts - and unlike in western culture they are allowed to be it in Japanese culture, as long as they don't sell themselves on the street.
This is what I want to tell Japanese devs. Hey, Japan. Remember Johnny Somali? That guy who actively and repeatedly broke your laws and social customs? Someone who doesn’t respect ANYTHING about your culture? Now imagine everyone responsible for translating your entertainment media being like that.
@@KingofL85As a matter of fact, should we spread awareness to people/creators in Japan and Ken Akamastu that terrible things (such as ESG, global standard, censorship, ect) are happening in Japan?
@@KingofL85No, it’s not a waste. There’s so many more of us than the loud minority who aren’t even fans. They should not be in control of what gets made. We should vote with our voices AND wallets. And it arguably goes beyond video games. This global standard woke nonsense has tainted nearly every aspect of our lives and is a new normal that should be rejected.
@@saltype17 if our wallets really matter Hollywood would have stopped making woke stuff. They got money to burn n companies to ruin so they won't be satisfied until they become beggars.
@@keeganmcfarland7507 if jap devs bend knees easily they only did it for money n were not passionate for their work n one way or another their work will perish whether u spread awareness or not greed consumes all. Save your strength n wait for everything to settle on its own just don't give them money that's all you can do.
Pom pixelation is essentailly a labor rights issue and market manipulation, the unionized actors don't want uncensored genitals in because that would push the common denominator and standard. It's the same in construction, if you dont HAVE to wear hard hats, every building is just built as cheap as they can without investment into safety gear. Drawn pom competes with live-action and it has been shown that if you allow certain things, they will just dodge the issue with something like tentacles going after 8-year-olds. Rev fans should know this, because you also virtue signal on "protecting the ACTUAL children", but in fact you will do nothing to seek out children in trouble that could be IN illicit materials. That's proven because children actually ARE compromised with simple things like your consumer goods, but you ignore that BECAUSE it isn't a literal fucking picture in the product itself.
Sadly they don't translate for you, they trans late for racist lil Tim Tim who can't handle the lgbt in their anime. Oh wait it's not the pre 2010s anymore. They make it for Woke wokerstan who hate men. Not people who actually watch anime.
In my opinion way too many Japanese games focus on the sexy anime girl cliche and that's why I lost interest. There's so much culture in Japan beyond that, but it's what sells I guess. Off topic nothing to do with being censored and changed, I hate that stuff too.
"Trust me, they know what they're doing" Usually this quote is followed by bad issues ^^ And, no, Karena, you don't like anime since you have to change it to appreciate it. And no one agreeing with those stupid "localizers"' likes anime. Not a single one.
because the woke societal rejects are the only ones loud enough the average and sane person doesn't try to unload their views on other people all the time and that's why we're losing the culture war the degenerates can and will do it while we do nothing
to them its the correct people, the kind of people that will give them more money than costumers, and im not talking about the twittards, im talking about the ones who impose the ESG rates for investors.
They always do unfortunately, because the internet is their only connection to the civilian world, but unfortunately they don't understand it's full of the crazy people, and the normal people aren't as outspoken.
That is why people love Japanese stuff so much, because of the Japanese culture they are interested in. If they want US stuff, they should not get them from Japan, nor force other countries into making them as the said stuff is already available in the US. Nobody goes to a Chinese restaurant for hamburgers as he would go there for Chinese food instead. People also support accurate language translating to ensure the intent is the same in a different language, and sex dimorphism is the acceptable realism in fantasy as the characters are still fictional. Should have listened to the millions of fans.
yeah.. there was a quote from either capcom or team ninja where they said "they dont come to us for a japanese hamburger, they come to us for japanese sushi..."
I do want western content as much as I want Japanese content, but most western content just sucks. I'm really happy when good western stuff does occasionally come out, like Cyberpunk, Hogwarts, and BG3, but it's not frequent enough.
I remember when I was younger and watching anime or reading manga, and I see Japan specific cultural reference, I look it up and then I understand and then am "in" on the reference, it is fun to know and be a part of these things. To change references to C tier western humor or political speech is just stupidity and hurts the quality and reputation of Japanese media.
to be fair- you go to a chinese restaurant for 'americanized' chinese food, which is changed to be more appealing to a 'western' audience, while still holding respect for the actual history behind the food- most restaurants don't carry the more 'controversial' parts of their cuisine, you won't typically find dog on the menu, your meal won't include pig's feet, sheep's p*nis, Stinky Tofu, or virgin boy eggs. this however, is different from Localizations, because they are cutting out the parts they know will not sell, or are simply illegal in the area- they are not trying to convince you that what you *really* want is Kung Pao impossible chicken, sweet and sour beyond meat pork, and cruelty free wonton soup, which is essentially what localizers do- they take out what makes something authentic to make it more palatable to themselves alone, disregarding how it hurts the dish itself.
@@dwainsimmons3447 For dubs, it was a mixed bag. Occasionally a good one surfaced (Tenchi Muyo OVA), but others the quality left anything to be desired.
@@PsychicWarsmy thought too. Western media was so much better back then as well. Specifically film and comics imo. Now most of it is unoriginal bastardizations of ideas from back then.
The word "hatred" is far too tame to describe the sensation I feel every time I remember that these foul monsters exist. Every time I am reminded of the unfortunate fact that they breathe.
I don't want Japanese media that's been Americanized with politics and slang. I want Japanese media that is translated as accurately as possible and character designs to stay as they were. I fell in love with Japanese games BECAUSE of the culture and designs, not because they had western viewpoints injected into them. Make anime, manga and games great again!
It's going to embolden the fansubbers in a way that they never have been before. Piracy is going to increase simply because people want accurate translations that convey a story, not a localization that shoves a narrative down your throat.
Funny you say that because the situation is even worse for those of us who aren't even American. Not only are they misrepresenting the culture, they aren't even making understandable for everyone else who is not American.
im so happy Japanese people are sticking up for us, the company's can't ignore it now its in there language i feel like when we get mad in the west due to this stuff its the localisers that respond and they never pass the info up the chain for obvious reasons
You CANNOT be accurate to source material if you cut out everything YOU FEEL is istaphobic. These things do not align. You're making your own politically correct version of the context that is closer to YOUR culture than Japanese.
When you impose your own culture onto Japanese culture, the audience does not get to understand a different culture. From odd translations of Japanese idioms, you start to wonder why they said that. When you sand off the edges, all that is lost, it's just the same mush you can get anywhere.
Well, this will destroy video games just like current Hollywood is experiencing. As they bend, the more fiscal failures will pile up. The localizers will claim it not being bent far enough. Then we will have the same death spiral of Hollywood. Completely different culture offered a unique and odd experiences. I loved the "weird" games, they offer different points of view. I may not always understand a joke/reference but I do understand a lot of it. And for the things I didn't understand, I would often look up later.
Thing is, if you really know how Blackrock works, you'll start to get more blackpilled with the idea that we can vote them out with our money. One should realize that a company on Blackrock funds is like a junkie on drugs; once support is taken from the junkie, they start to lean into the drugs more and more and no one could persuade them into laying off. You would realize that financially, we have already lost to the elites, and they are already set to translate their wealth into power so whatever remaining wealth they have will never be taken away from them, and they might have achieved 50-75% of that goal.. There's only one way to counter this, but no one wants to use that option for we are too pacifist to do so.
We seriously need greater communication between the large majority of gamers both japanese and english who hate these english localizers to tell the japanese companies that they should not under any circumstances take twitter seriously. Ive seen a few japanese channels talk about it but we need more to get it to as big of an audience as possible
The problem isn’t communication but rather the cultural ideology conflicts being the problem. The localizers don’t care about the script but to create propaganda in the west for the sake of a better future.
This is the root of why the problem is not getting solved. The Japanese audience is finally catching up, but there is still not enough listening going on with the actual companies. Only the threat of legal penalties is ever going to stop malicious localization, but it can't happen so long as the property holders don't care enough.
Remember, it's wrong for us to enjoy Japanese culture, as that's Cultural Appropriation. But changing Japanese culture and their content, that's perfectly fine.
That Japan Times article, which discusses Bandai Namco's localisation, still keeps making headlines. One needs to be reminded that Bandai Namco has been listed on the ESG Index for quite a few years now. This isn't surprising, but it's sad nonetheless. Bandai Namco will have to learn the hard way. Does anybody remember the logo change a couple of years ago, where Bandai Namco admitted that they're commiting to ESG? Woke localisers are the low level henchmen of these ESG investors. Sega will learn the hard way, too. Despite being of two minds here in regards to A.I., I can't wait for the day these woke localisers get fired and blacklisted from the entire Japanese entertainment industry. These localisers had it coming and I enjoy seeing them squirm and cry, as translations will be less contaminated with western woke ideology. However, the quality of translations will (temporarily) dip, as they will partially lack a certain human touch. There's also a danger that certain (political) biases can also be programmed and integrated into A.I.. Model professional translators can definitely use A.I. as an additional tool to assist them. It's a double-edge sword. Maybe publishers and foreign distributors need to hire Japanese natives who are good to fluent in various foreign languages. Of course, these Japanese native translators would need to be trained and vetted, in order to perform for and represent theses publishers and foreign distributors like model professionals. Translators in the mould of Studio Khara's Dan Kanemitsu or similar come to mind. But I digress. It’s time to return to the days where translations were never done during the development or production of certain products, but to do translations after the completion of the original (Japanese language) version as it was the way things were done in the past. The tried, tested and successfully proven. Translating Japanese I.P.s under Japanese norms never ever hurt or harmed foreign or domestic users, customers, etc. in any way, due to historical, religious or cultural differences. The Japanese historical, religious or cultural differences are what made and still make Japanese I.P.s successful in the first place. Domestic audiences and fanbases are the lifeblood of every successful I.P.. Foreign audiences and fanbases are a bonus though. This global / modern audience these wokies talk about doesn't exist, due to audiences never ever being a monolith. Additionally, this moral abstinence wokies love to preach is a hoax, as all they do is classic projection, gaslighting, crybullying and tokenism, which is the bigotry of low expectations and internalised and externalised istophobia of the highest order. Wokies are the embodiment of anti-marketing. This toning down of sexiness of characters is also uncalled for. It's obvious that sexiness always sells and that fan service is customer service, always. As for those so-called "Global Standards", they aren't what they claim to be. All they are doing is refering to generic lowest common denominator nonsense. I would call such mediocrity "Wooden Spoon Standards". During the 1980s and 1990s, developers and producers had way more creative freedom. This "Wild West" during the 1980s and 1990s were and still are the real global standards. Having full creative freedom and completely ignoring so-called "sensibilities" is the real Global Standard and thus the benchmark and an infinitely growing pinnacle of excellence. Why? Because developers and producers during the 1980s and 1990s were in constant competition with one another. This competition of ideas only encourages people to strive to evolve and better oneself. Again, striving for excellence in quality, creativity, evolution, satisfying cumtomers and fans, etc. is the real Global Standard. Foreign fans of Japanese I.P.s want translations to be faithful to the original with the creator’s original vision intact, uncut, unedited and uncensored. The same thing goes for the Japanese historical, religious or cultural differences that are included and embedded. That’s what also makes Japanese I.P.s stand out. This xenophobia and racism against Japan needs to stop. It's time that this ESG Ponzi Scheme gets exposed for what it is.
Honestly, we need translation/localisation that is as close to the original language as possible, and certainly without the insertion of any extraneous ideas, regardless of whether they're woke or not. 4Kids/Saban definitely showed how right-wing censorship can also degrade anime, but now it's the leftists.
Oh modern audience exist except we are the modern audience is just that they think the modern audience are just like them, but in every case it's the opposite of what they have in mind, sooner or later they will realize the modern audience were not the ideal audience they were looking for, the term they use for the audience they seek should've been ideal audience, because modern audience are just the same audience they hated but with younger age.
Is anyone worried about the possibility that this will also affect Bandai's anime franchises? They own many of the biggest Japanese media franchises, by the way. Although I wouldn't be surprised if a number of recent decisions in Gundam were already a result of this. Not surprisingly, Tomino also hinted at something in that very interview.
I would not count SEGA endorsing localization as a metric for Japanese support. SEGA is about as Japanese of a company as Square Enix, AKA they aren’t and they’re literally known for being out of touch. This is nothing new from them.
@@KomICantCommunIcateguh Yeah, the whole American industry is collapsing in real time, right now. Once THAT collapses, Japan will be in for a rude awakening.
Been doing that for YEARS and trust me is not that hard, there's a undescribable amount of "old" games that i never played so i kinda always have something do play 😂
Well, so much for Japan being the final hope for being the last and only place that could at least be able to say no about the whole woke localization in check.
I just learned the other day that the studio behind Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid was the victim of an arson attack, the director of the series and some 36 employees were murdered in 2019. The fact that their legacy has been hijacked by woke localisers is just disgusting. edit: corrected the number of victims
Not 19. 36. 36 people died, and another 30 were injured, including the Arsonist, who has been sentenced to death by Japanese courts. He HAS apologized, but at this point, it's too late for that. He'll go down in Japanese history as a serial killer. All because his deluded mind thought KyoAni was stealing his failed ideas and animating them. This is the result of Japan's societal insistance that mental health isn't needed.
@@havefeith Just a note: Serial killers, by definition, commit their acts over a period of time with inactive periods between victims. The KyoAni guy doesn't fall under that umbrella.
More like Japanese shareholders about to have a surprise Pikachu face when they see their stocks plummeting and desperately try to find the idiot who has been tanking sales.
The sad thing is, it's not even the localization to make things clear for different cultures that people are upset about. It's the forcible injection of woke politics and pandering that has people up in arms. It's one thing to say that, a joke might need to be changed, because a foreign audience won't understand the reference. It's entirely another thing to change a character into being trans, or insert feminist talking points into the dialog when that wasn't part of the original script.
From the perspective of Japanese devs, perhaps they just want to sell their games and also not offend foreigners. That's understandable. The problem is that they've been lied to about what people in the west want, which is as close to the original as possible. The loud few don't speak for the country at large.
@@phantom-ri2tg then it's time to begin the second pirate era. Patreon and Subscribestar are a thing now and it's time to begin funding genuine translators to do things.
@@UncensoredScion "second pirate era" You mean another era of giving Japan nothing for their work again? That is how we ended up where we were. or did you forget that Crunchyroll was originally a pirate organization? Jeez it is almost like Japan would rather side with the people that actually give them money.
@@phantom-ri2tg They’re the ones who want to side with and support those who insult and degrade their own culture and style of storytelling. Why should people support an industry that does that? I’ve also said that we should go indie for everything now, Palworld is a good example of a small company that isn’t being affected by this bs, imagine the same for a lot of other JP game devs and anime productions. And no, I didn’t forget that about Crunchyroll but the difference is that we don’t have to support something that shoves politics and social messaging into the media, the ease of going “yeah I’m done” with that sort of thing is a click of a button. People are sick and tired of being lectured in their entertainment and if the companies won’t stop it, we have to do it to them. What it sounds like you want to do is bitch like a woman. Probably are a localiser yourself and know this is one thing you can’t invade easily.
@@phantom-ri2tg And how long do you think that ESG gravy train is going to keep rolling? Western media is imploding taking losses they can no longer afford. Especially during the current economic downturn. Crunchyroll only went legit when they had enough money to bankroll licenses. Give people enough alternative means and eventually even the legitimate traffic will move away. Traffic goes away, money will dry up. Crunchyroll collapses and someone else takes their place. But someone has to make that alternative first. If Japan wants money then we have to make it clear that the only person getting money will be those who denounce ESG and provide accurate translations.
This reminds of the time during the PS3/Xbox360-era how games were turned into snack food. Until one day, FromSoftware decided to go against SONY's wishes and release Demon's Souls. And that lead up to them developing Dark Souls. And a lot of people like Dark Souls, and not the snack food kinds of games that are Skyrim and Call of Duty. I hope one of these days we can have a Demon's Souls sort of an outcome in the localization scene.
MeToo has been "changing mindsets..." They. WISH!! They wish they had that kind of influence and power to reshape *innate* desires. People will never, NEVER stop liking attractive imagery, no matter how much their DELUSION denies this fundamental truth.
I agree, catering to a very loud twitter minority who probably won't buy the game anyway sounds really stupid. However, if it doesn't decrease sales, they'll think they're doing the right thing and stuff like this is going to stay. Unfortunately I don't think there's enough people that care and/or are aware of bad localizations yet to greatly affect sales, but hopefully word spreads and it can change in the future.
The only way for it to change is to stop the localizers here in the west from doing what they're doing, even then the damage may already be done. If the executives at these companies already think that they have to make things more woke to sell their stuff to a global market, they'll just do that and people here will buy it regardless.
The problem is that twitter minority wormed its way into upper management, bought all the news outlet websites out, and did this completely hidden over a decade ago. They've just only now come into the full force of that power, and it's now being threatened by AI.
I never thought I'd say this, but these localizers make me miss 4Kids. Sure they made bad changes too, but they weren't malicious, or politically motivated. As a Sega fan, I'm disappointed in Sega's remarks on the subject.
Japan hold strong... please. Make the best entertainment you can. You should not care if people dislike it or hate it. Just make what you want and put your soul into it and people will always buy. Don't listen to people who don't care for the industry you work in. They have no idea what goes into making a video game or anime.
@@clairemadeinheavenSo you didn’t see how the uglified Yor in their crossover event or Chun li? Or how they uglified Clair and Jill in the remakes of RE 2 and 3?
This doesn't reflect all Japanese, but I think they've gotten soft or are too nice for their own good. They need to practice better leadership and, in the case of the localizers, to take the leadership back. EDIT: On a side note, Studio Ghibli was the first company to step in and take the leadership back because in the 1980s, one of their films was butchered, and Ghibli wasn't happy about it. Because of this, they developed an extremely strict "no cuts" policy.
If you truly go this route, you will not only abandon the western market but your own market as well. Don’t lose your identity because of these people.
Ah, it’s Bandai Namco… I hope this punts there numbers even lower so they can learn to stop pandering to the idiots. The new Magical Girl anime is from a studio that up until the 2020’s mainly focused on comedies and light hearted children anime. They now produce mainly ecchi and they keep upping the levels, I honestly think it’s a case of one of the oldest studios trying to showcase that they will not yield to these morons.
Unfortunately they won't be going anywhere anytime soon, they're firmly patched onto the ESG teet. Fortunately, when companies chase ESG, they usually end up in a state where they have to rely on it, and the more companies it props up, the less ESG money there will be to go around. Remember, its not "get woke go broke" It's "go broke, get woke, ultimately croak"
Is what I'd like to say, but unfortunately, with BlackRock and all the other ESG funding companies buying up houses, they'll just prop up their Ponzi scheme with your rent money. Someone should really Heemeyer their head offices, anyone got a Komatsu D355A on hand?
They won't. Japan has followed all western trends, it just takes a lot longer for it to happen. It was only a matter of time after anime and manga skyrocketed in popularity outside of Japan. Because Japanese culture is very adherent to institutions, they are especially susceptible to influence by corporations in the West that translate or distribute their games outside of Japan, and they also are heavily influenced by western news outlets, reviewers, blogs, and so on. And because westerners want those games, even if they've been mistranslated or Americanized, they sell well, well enough for those Japanese execs to believe that what the West is doing is a good thing. Expect Japan to turn into a hyper-microcosm of what has happened in the west in the coming years, probably just in time for the West to fully escape that poison, and Japan's culture and products will fall into decline. I've already seen a few internet personalities living in Japan like The Anime Man talking about how he's noticed that Japan is changing, and it's scary to see.
I'm pessimist with the notion that japan will survive against the woke revolution. Their PM, the high and mighty kuso megane once asking assistance from Blackrock, the fuckers who creates the damn ESG. South Korea will follow japan's path sooner or later. Whether you like it or not, China is the only country that won't be affected with the Woke Revolution for an obvious reason.
This isn't anything new. Nintendo was endorsing what Treehouse is doing with Nintendo games years ago (I believe it was during the XB2 release which had all religious and most of the sexual fetish stuff in Poppy's dialogue removed), the Japanese don't care as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line. What needs to happen is boycotts! Sadly US/English mainstream media endorses this behavior because they too suffer from brain rot, so you won't see them reporting on this as vigilantly as they should hence casual gamers don't know what has been changed. Compare that to what German games media did 20-30 years ago when games were censored for the German market, a game being censored was always being brought up and talked about extensively. The result was people not buying or importing US/UK versions instead and it hurt sales so much that some games skipped the German market entirely and on the flip side publishers were happy about advertising an uncensored product when it got through the ratings.
I my self can be turned a bit off by the constant "Harem" tropes and even some Fan Service but I deal with it and still enjoy the show for what it is, I would NEVER expect Japan to change them. It is not our media, it is theirs.
When like you are a middle school and high school boy the idea of that much female attention sounds great. Now when I talk to my male friends who liked Harem in High school they are all like "That seems like a horribly stressful mess to be in, why did High school me like harem?"
That's the problem with people that DON'T like those things, they are not vocal enough, i know it's bad to "bother" devs in social media, but if you don't do it, other people will and their opinion will be taken in consideration instead of yours
@@paperluigi6132 Or if enough people do the right actions to destroy the enemy. They're fragile snowflakes who freak out over everything that SEEMS to threaten them, after all. So if something was to get past their barriers... I mean, if, say, one of their major figures was to have their criminal records (I'm pretty sure most of them have one) made public and get sent to jail for it, they'll freak out like crazy.
If they continue down this path... they'll come to the grim realization of their mistake... by a hit on their sales as people may move over to korean games
If capitalism worked as intended instead of being manipulated by Blackrock and Co. she would have lost her job and the chance to ever work in the industry ever again seeing how much the fans (us) hate her, what she's said and what she's done
It was literally like a week ago that someone said that my point that the AI translations wouldn't solve anything because the people curating them would be just as likely to be woke and was told, "No, it's fine because they can do the AI in Japan" and I elaborated. I said, "If Crunchyroll or whatever big company in charge of distribution to the West demands they greenlight the translation it'd be more practical to put the current localizers ruining translations in charge of that." It's cynical but the fans only have so much sway. A lot of companies are too small to publish overseas so they'll license their property out to a company like NISA or XSeed and will generally have to play ball. The ones that are big enough to have overseas publishing networks don't care. To put it bluntly, in order for it to have an impact the cost of lost sales due to boycotting need to surpass the impact that would be had If a large distributor refuses to release a project they don't have control over, and I don't think that such a thing WILL happen. And for shareholders there will be the defense who insist that it has nothing to do with the translation and is entirely due to something like "bad marketing."
We saw extreme level of wokeism in last few Western games like Spiderman 2 probably like 5 or more years from now on japan made games will reach that level major changes made with the ff remakes like with the honey bee inn scenes of course they will not stop in that level we'll how fast major japanese games become purely Western slop this is so boring that everything is just have same structure now this kind of thing are not so rainbow colored they like to think actually
just watch anime in non-oficial pages where the subs are done by fans, respecting what is actualy said, without agendas behind, so the localize version won't make the expected revenue, about games, if you dislike, don't buy it, there are so many alternatives out there, every week there are new releases, just embrance the: go woke, go broke
I truly hope Bandai Namco, Sega, et al are not indicative of the general trend in Japan. We have shown that enough people who are sufficiently cheesed off at an ESG-subservient corporation can effectively bring it to its knees. Vote with your feet and your wallets, folks. You don't have to boycott -- merely steer your hard earned buckage into products and services that better align with your priorities and goals. A great big _"Banzai!"_ to Nagoshi-sensei! He gets it! We need to support creators like this in Japan who get it.
As Much as I love Bandai, they are run by fucking idiots who doesn't understand games because their Parent company is a Real estate developer who makes toys
They've kinda been crap for a while even before the whole woke thing. Bandai Namco can't keep a live service property open for more than a year and Sega is nothing but constant bad decisions. They've been incompetent companies for a long time now and are only held up by their licenses or massively successful IPs (like Gundam) that protects them from their failed endeavours.
No one can throw away good will quite like Japanese video game companies. Sega and Capcom spent years rebuilding their reputation and now they're throwing it all away again.
If Japanese devs want to endorse these people, then I will simply not buy their games. I have long since stopped playing Squareenix, Capcom, Namco and various other devs games. They hold no interest to me anymore, everything that made them fun and exciting has gone and that is even before it gets to localization. I could play it in Japanese and STILL have just as sour of a time. The moment they started trying to make games for a "global" audience, was when all the heart and soul of their games had finally left.
Japanese games and anime are popular not only because they have distinctly Japanese things, but also because it does stuff western media doesn't. There's actually a lot of Japanese games and media which are doing character tropes and plots that Hollywood used to do in the 1950s-1990s. But Hollywood have deemed those things bad and cancelled them. So of course if someone wants to have something like the old Batman cartoon or a movie like Back to the Future, Hollywood isn't making anything like that anymore. But you can find an anime or video game equivalent. The issue is, the localizers are part of (or trying to get into) the Hollywood crowd. And so they tow the Hollywood line, censoring and sabotaging Japanese media to "bring it in line with western values." Basically, localization is a form of control. It has been since the 1980s and before. They just are finally being called out on it because we have the internet and we can look up what's been altered. Back in the 1980s and 90s, it was a lot harder to find the original version and learn what was altered so they had more control over it.
Katrina: *_"...you can adjust the cultural interpretations as you need to. At some cases, you can even contact the developer and be like 'Hey, I want to change this little visual aspect so it works better for their culture.' So, you have a little bit more control over what the player is going to experience..."_* Let me ask a question. Why do people like the "Yakuza" games? It is *_because_* of how overtly Japanese they are. It is something could never be developed on western shores and is not like anything western audiences have grown accustomed to for many years. And if you so much as inject political messages into it, then you just lost all of your loyal, diehard fans who loved how unique the game was.
The current state of "localization" is the same as if Japan's wagyu beef producers hired a bunch of American vegans to advise how best to sell their beef in the US, and now they are following the vegans' demands to start replacing beef with soy without telling the customers.
Funny enough knowing how most japanese talk shit about localizers or american tv shows . These companies not as supported like american companies will lose millions and then take the knee of shame. And focus on customers
I watch Japanese animation because I want to see Japanese animation. I want Japanese style writing, storytelling, humor, culture, etc. That's why I'm watching it. Don't localize it to be all western, if I wanted western style media, I'd watch western media.
It is officially joever bros. If those Idiots get more power, we should start just watching the subs instead of dubs. If our words don't work, our money will
Why aren’t you watching subs anyway? 90% of the western voice acting community are woke! Don’t watch dubbed anime. Subs only and even those are becoming suspect.
I told you that Japan was not going to fix *your* problems in place of you. So will you go into denial? *Edit* Partially nevermind I found out this article was talking about video games .
That's exactly why I think AI is the only way out. The core problem lies at the corporations who produce the IP, not just the localizers. They only ever saw the backlashes online and thought this is exactly what users want while it could be very far from the truth. If people can run good enough machine translations locally that, with AI, can even understand nuances, it acts as checks and balances to those corporations and localizers and force them to react, while also reaching coverage beyond typical fan translations.
AI can't solve this if games are being altered at the fundamental level (changing character designs because the outfit's too revealing, scripts/dialogue being changed to where the wokealization *is* the actual wording, ect).
@@dakomissar363 Yes. This won't bring Bridget back, but at least it'd disincentivize wokealizers to mess with things. The rest will be up to the modders and potentially AIs that can help reverse engineering and patching the games.
you say that, but I bet people could make a mod pack that alters the voice lines to fit a more original source material for games using AI voice overs for those parts (as well as text). For example; a game from the edo period comes out and the wokelizers/corpwokes add in political pandering, an AI mod pack could theoretically alter the dialogue to fit within that time period, and stay consistent (given the human modder assists in this re-writing) throughout the story, effectively changing the story to fit that time period and the general concept of the game. Problem being; what if the gameplay itself is woke? Then there's no worry, because consumers will just drop the hot garbage and the company wont make a return on investment. @@dakomissar363
Its absolutely insane how people will twist this argument to fit their own needs, when this is simply about getting higher quality translations. Revuwu is completely accurate about this
6:22 thanks for featuring my tweet. One take away after watching several interviews with different localizers is that they all sound very vague like in that clip, so too many normies still think the likes of Katrina aren't doing anything wrong.
They're toning down things like alcohol and religion....... how the hell did we end up back here? Did everyone just forget that 4kids was widely hated for pulling this crap about two decades ago? What's even more ironic is that 4kids at least had the excuse of appealing (albeit in an out-of-touch fashion) towards..... well, it's in their name. In contrast, these current year localizers are working with media most commonly aimed at teens and young adults, people who should be mature enough to handle extreme content (and if they can't, they should also be mature enough to simply choose not to watch). But nope, certain types of content have to be toned down because they, the localizers, say so, and they, the localizers, just arbitrarily think that you, the audience, are incapable of handling the very same type of content that the original Japanese audience were able to handle just fine.
I love how they say this at the worst possible moment when everyone now hates the localizers compared to even a month ago when the hate was pretty focused on those that were effected
One thing to consider is the Japanese mindset. This is a collectivist society, at least socially. The localizers have a pre-established relationship and in Japan they seek to please and expect these activists to be of a like minded mindset. Here's the thing, if you see something you don't like. 1. Contact the original dev or publisher directly, tell them your complaint, be very clear as it is going to a person that doesn't speak your language. 2. Boycott the manga or game, permanently. It takes time to make a dent this way. So for example, you're paying for CR subscription, mot only do you cancel the subscription nut you also don't watch with ads earlier 2.
We need some indies to stand up and start making "offensive" games. Said games would probably sell well, and maybe that'll turn heads on some of these companies. or not, at least we'd have some cool indie games. And of course, some drama we can eat popcorn and watch. Just, the people doing this need to hide their identities so they don't get death threats. if I had the skill to make games, I would make an offensive game on purpose, just to give these idiots the middle finger.
The only company I see in Japan that doesn't censor their anime or games aka card games is Bushiroad with Cardfight Vanguard! They don't put that crap in their anime or game and it is why I love Cardfight Vanguard so much! Japan bending the knee to these woke localizers means that whatever comes out of Japan now is doomed too...
This is it. Japanese will always initially side with the existing authority. It was never going to be as simple as a few anime-avatars messaging people on twitter. The good side of the Japanese mind here is that you don't have to overcome this authority more than once. Once it's proven that the majority do not want this, most other Japanese developers will fall in line.
Ha! Oh boi. In Japan, customer is always right. The only reason they seem "okay" with this is because it is literally not their problem. It is up to us, as the "audience" and the target consumers of localizations to deal with this. It will be a long battle though. Honestly, the best way to combat this is for a rival company to be established.
Well, bring back the "Wild West" then. And anyone who feels "excluded" in such an environment, let them feel excluded. Nobody's entitled to feel, or even be, included.
At this point, I think Western indie devs could make a more faithful Japanese than the Japanese devs, if they’re going to be bending the knee like this.
Don't purchase the products, don't even interact with them except to call out the BS. Never forget that they need you to survive, you do not need them.
Glad to know Sega feels this way, I will let Sonic Frontiers be the last game I buy from them. I recently cancelled my Crunchyroll Subscription because of this localizer situation and started sailing the seven seas to watch my anime, and will do the same with Sega's games. I'm just gonna do the same with their games, or just won't buy it at all. I'm done supporting Woke shit chase your modern audience, let me know how far it gets you.
@@speed3414 denuvo games get cracked all the time usually within hours to days of release its not like when it was first used and took a month plus for it to be broken, almost every big title from capcom sega and hell the majority of the AAA industry has been using denuvo for over 10 years now. grabbed cracked copies is easy as hell of nearly everything. and usually the cracked version runs much better because of how shit denuvo is in the first place.
@@yamivalkri not really, a lot of denuvo games have not been cracked to this days, mostly Sega ones, some even had it for over 5 years. Only one person was able to crack denuvo and nowadays that person stopped doing that
@@speed3414 Well, it's like I said in my original point, I'm not interested in supporting them if this is going to be their stance. So if I can't pirate it I just won't buy it, there are thousands of games on PC ill be fine without their product. Now if they release a product where it isn't bending to lunatics on Twitter/X ill be happy to give them money then.
Gotta love all these companies listening to the people who don't actually give a shit about, and wouldn't support in the first place, what they're making.
@@Asertix357 And look what it did to Disney. No amount of "I can do better" will save them from this fate. Only a "I'm not doing that shit" can save them.
At this point i am fairly convinced it's not about money anymore because big corps has abundance of it but to push the agenda at all cost. Don't know why, what's the purpose of it, who's so desperate to keep this social engineering going at all cost but it's evident money is never an issue.
@@lunatic0verlord10 Disney is still around and will continue to be around for decads to come because th invstors want this sort of thing, thy dont car if it bombs.
As a reminder, Like A Dragon hired an Anti (Nyanners) to promote their game. Nyanners is an open xenophobe and has called Japan and its culture pedophiles. She still has pomf pomf privated which means she stands by with what she has said about Japan. Them hiring Nyanners just highlights how much they hate Japan and its culture.
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Sega investing 600mill in a "super game project" & are admitting to pushng this ESG localizer BS ? Yeah saga guna fall on HARD times
But not the company that made Massage Freaks!
4:17 Did you say "wokalize"? Because I'm using that from now on.
What happened to "They've been found out" and "Japan is gonna give them the boot!" and all that clickbaity nonsense? Bit disappointed how everyone's been portraying this, we can't afford to be giving ourselves a false narrative of hope when there's work to do against these toxic 'localizers'.
I'm so angry and disappointed at Japanese game developers for doing this. Japan is truly dying.
1. They're not sexist jokes, the localizers are just a bunch of snowflakes.
2. Even if they were sexist jokes, it's not their job to "protect" fans from them, it's their job to translate, that's it, period.
Like it or not that's not the opinion of their Japanese employers at current
Yeah. While I don't like tasteless fanservice, I just leave it at that. I just make this remark and add "if you like it" speel, the fact these knuckledraggers are crying over fresh air is pretty sad. "Oh, we want to make it how it 'should' be" crock is a overused screen that has several holes in it.
3. As rev mentioned, no one who is buying these care and the people who care dont play these games. Learn from bud light, learn from history as it does infact repeat itself because we are all bumbling fools and completely predictable. Like, if you wanna make money off us and abuse us, atleast do it right cmon man!
Ok, I have seen this argument flung around a couple times, so I feel the need to say something: Lets not get on the level of reality deprivation of some localizers. At least(!) half the jokes in japanese media is simple sexism. If you have been to Japan, a statement like yours would not be possible (yes, I lived, studied and worked in Japan). It is the culture and you may like or not like it, thats up to the individual. Sexism as it is, is viewd different in Japan than the societal west - its not exactly positive, but it is not comparable to Europe and north america.
However, its not the job of anyone but the media producers in Japan to change this and it should not happen on the basis of some overly loud people that dont even play those games in the first place.
Please just keep the argument and the discussion real and not slide into absurdity like the vocal a-hats.
@@Randleray Yes, and? Who cares. Sorry, when you have a problem with that - don't consume anime or japanese media. And you wanna know an even more crazy truth about japanese media? The most sexist stuff comes from WOMEN! Not from men. Because also in Japan men often don't have the courage for it - but a woman can get scarve-free. And many of them are proud of their jobs. Do you think the seiyuus who voices visual novels with much moaning are ashamed? No they aren't. Do you think Mami Kawada or KOTOKO were ashamed about the games they sang the openings for? No, they weren't. In fact, many of them demanded these jobs. Because imagine that: Also women can be huge perverts - and unlike in western culture they are allowed to be it in Japanese culture, as long as they don't sell themselves on the street.
This is what I want to tell Japanese devs.
Hey, Japan. Remember Johnny Somali? That guy who actively and repeatedly broke your laws and social customs? Someone who doesn’t respect ANYTHING about your culture? Now imagine everyone responsible for translating your entertainment media being like that.
It's waste of time to tell them anything they will do this for money n eventually go out of business.
@@KingofL85As a matter of fact, should we spread awareness to people/creators in Japan and Ken Akamastu that terrible things (such as ESG, global standard, censorship, ect) are happening in Japan?
@@KingofL85No, it’s not a waste. There’s so many more of us than the loud minority who aren’t even fans. They should not be in control of what gets made. We should vote with our voices AND wallets. And it arguably goes beyond video games. This global standard woke nonsense has tainted nearly every aspect of our lives and is a new normal that should be rejected.
@@saltype17 if our wallets really matter Hollywood would have stopped making woke stuff. They got money to burn n companies to ruin so they won't be satisfied until they become beggars.
@@keeganmcfarland7507 if jap devs bend knees easily they only did it for money n were not passionate for their work n one way or another their work will perish whether u spread awareness or not greed consumes all. Save your strength n wait for everything to settle on its own just don't give them money that's all you can do.
I play Japanese games because i like Japanese culture and the fact that it is NOT censored!
.... except the hentai...
Pom pixelation is essentailly a labor rights issue and market manipulation, the unionized actors don't want uncensored genitals in because that would push the common denominator and standard. It's the same in construction, if you dont HAVE to wear hard hats, every building is just built as cheap as they can without investment into safety gear.
Drawn pom competes with live-action and it has been shown that if you allow certain things, they will just dodge the issue with something like tentacles going after 8-year-olds.
Rev fans should know this, because you also virtue signal on "protecting the ACTUAL children", but in fact you will do nothing to seek out children in trouble that could be IN illicit materials. That's proven because children actually ARE compromised with simple things like your consumer goods, but you ignore that BECAUSE it isn't a literal fucking picture in the product itself.
@@sboinkthelegday3892nobody literally mentioned children here, where did that come from?
Sadly they don't translate for you, they trans late for racist lil Tim Tim who can't handle the lgbt in their anime. Oh wait it's not the pre 2010s anymore. They make it for Woke wokerstan who hate men. Not people who actually watch anime.
In my opinion way too many Japanese games focus on the sexy anime girl cliche and that's why I lost interest. There's so much culture in Japan beyond that, but it's what sells I guess. Off topic nothing to do with being censored and changed, I hate that stuff too.
"Trust me, they know what they're doing"
Usually this quote is followed by bad issues ^^
And, no, Karena, you don't like anime since you have to change it to appreciate it.
And no one agreeing with those stupid "localizers"' likes anime.
Not a single one.
These companies are listening to the wrong people.
because the woke societal rejects are the only ones loud enough
the average and sane person doesn't try to unload their views on other people all the time and that's why we're losing the culture war
the degenerates can and will do it while we do nothing
Which will result in bankruptcy.
to them its the correct people, the kind of people that will give them more money than costumers, and im not talking about the twittards, im talking about the ones who impose the ESG rates for investors.
They always do unfortunately, because the internet is their only connection to the civilian world, but unfortunately they don't understand it's full of the crazy people, and the normal people aren't as outspoken.
@@Wolfrich666 they won't. That's not an endless well.
-Big Japanese game development corporations pushing ESG
"Hmm... let's see who's behind the mask"
-Blackrock & friends
Shocker. Actually not really shocking. Blackrock is such a tumor it's not even funny.
That is why people love Japanese stuff so much, because of the Japanese culture they are interested in. If they want US stuff, they should not get them from Japan, nor force other countries into making them as the said stuff is already available in the US. Nobody goes to a Chinese restaurant for hamburgers as he would go there for Chinese food instead. People also support accurate language translating to ensure the intent is the same in a different language, and sex dimorphism is the acceptable realism in fantasy as the characters are still fictional. Should have listened to the millions of fans.
yeah.. there was a quote from either capcom or team ninja where they said "they dont come to us for a japanese hamburger, they come to us for japanese sushi..."
I agree, love Japanese stuff and their culture. ☕️🗿🇯🇵
I do want western content as much as I want Japanese content, but most western content just sucks. I'm really happy when good western stuff does occasionally come out, like Cyberpunk, Hogwarts, and BG3, but it's not frequent enough.
I remember when I was younger and watching anime or reading manga, and I see Japan specific cultural reference, I look it up and then I understand and then am "in" on the reference, it is fun to know and be a part of these things. To change references to C tier western humor or political speech is just stupidity and hurts the quality and reputation of Japanese media.
to be fair- you go to a chinese restaurant for 'americanized' chinese food, which is changed to be more appealing to a 'western' audience, while still holding respect for the actual history behind the food- most restaurants don't carry the more 'controversial' parts of their cuisine, you won't typically find dog on the menu, your meal won't include pig's feet, sheep's p*nis, Stinky Tofu, or virgin boy eggs.
this however, is different from Localizations, because they are cutting out the parts they know will not sell, or are simply illegal in the area- they are not trying to convince you that what you *really* want is Kung Pao impossible chicken, sweet and sour beyond meat pork, and cruelty free wonton soup, which is essentially what localizers do- they take out what makes something authentic to make it more palatable to themselves alone, disregarding how it hurts the dish itself.
“Appealing to overseas players whose expectations on issues such as sexism are influencing the content of major titles” man I just want fun games
The "Wild West of the 1980s and '90's" was also the source of the best and most creative anime, manga and games from Japan.
But it was the worst for localization and dubs!
@@dwainsimmons3447 For dubs, it was a mixed bag. Occasionally a good one surfaced (Tenchi Muyo OVA), but others the quality left anything to be desired.
The 80's and 90's were a better time for media in general.
@@PsychicWarsmy thought too. Western media was so much better back then as well. Specifically film and comics imo. Now most of it is unoriginal bastardizations of ideas from back then.
@@dwainsimmons3447 Just watch subs then.
The word "hatred" is far too tame to describe the sensation I feel every time I remember that these foul monsters exist. Every time I am reminded of the unfortunate fact that they breathe.
I don't want Japanese media that's been Americanized with politics and slang. I want Japanese media that is translated as accurately as possible and character designs to stay as they were. I fell in love with Japanese games BECAUSE of the culture and designs, not because they had western viewpoints injected into them.
Make anime, manga and games great again!
Yugioh for example.
It's going to embolden the fansubbers in a way that they never have been before. Piracy is going to increase simply because people want accurate translations that convey a story, not a localization that shoves a narrative down your throat.
Funny you say that because the situation is even worse for those of us who aren't even American. Not only are they misrepresenting the culture, they aren't even making understandable for everyone else who is not American.
im so happy Japanese people are sticking up for us, the company's can't ignore it now its in there language i feel like when we get mad in the west due to this stuff its the localisers that respond and they never pass the info up the chain for obvious reasons
You CANNOT be accurate to source material if you cut out everything YOU FEEL is istaphobic. These things do not align. You're making your own politically correct version of the context that is closer to YOUR culture than Japanese.
When you impose your own culture onto Japanese culture,
the audience does not get to understand a different culture.
From odd translations of Japanese idioms, you start to wonder why they said that.
When you sand off the edges, all that is lost, it's just the same mush you can get anywhere.
You can be accurate to the source material if that _is_ the source material. And unfortunately, that's what's happening.
Remember, these are the people who call IsIam a feminist religion and any call-out about its reality is IsIamophobic
Well, this will destroy video games just like current Hollywood is experiencing.
As they bend, the more fiscal failures will pile up. The localizers will claim it not being bent far enough. Then we will have the same death spiral of Hollywood.
Completely different culture offered a unique and odd experiences. I loved the "weird" games, they offer different points of view. I may not always understand a joke/reference but I do understand a lot of it. And for the things I didn't understand, I would often look up later.
Thing is, if you really know how Blackrock works, you'll start to get more blackpilled with the idea that we can vote them out with our money. One should realize that a company on Blackrock funds is like a junkie on drugs; once support is taken from the junkie, they start to lean into the drugs more and more and no one could persuade them into laying off. You would realize that financially, we have already lost to the elites, and they are already set to translate their wealth into power so whatever remaining wealth they have will never be taken away from them, and they might have achieved 50-75% of that goal.. There's only one way to counter this, but no one wants to use that option for we are too pacifist to do so.
We seriously need greater communication between the large majority of gamers both japanese and english who hate these english localizers to tell the japanese companies that they should not under any circumstances take twitter seriously. Ive seen a few japanese channels talk about it but we need more to get it to as big of an audience as possible
Money talks loudest.
The problem isn’t communication but rather the cultural ideology conflicts being the problem. The localizers don’t care about the script but to create propaganda in the west for the sake of a better future.
@@nobafan7515Well they lose money from the woke translations so it's their lost.
This is the root of why the problem is not getting solved. The Japanese audience is finally catching up, but there is still not enough listening going on with the actual companies. Only the threat of legal penalties is ever going to stop malicious localization, but it can't happen so long as the property holders don't care enough.
Problem is people will still consume. It’s how we got here
Remember, it's wrong for us to enjoy Japanese culture, as that's Cultural Appropriation.
But changing Japanese culture and their content, that's perfectly fine.
They screech about "colonization" despite being the most rapacious and unapologetic colonizers the world has ever seen
That Japan Times article, which discusses Bandai Namco's localisation, still keeps making headlines. One needs to be reminded that Bandai Namco has been listed on the ESG Index for quite a few years now. This isn't surprising, but it's sad nonetheless. Bandai Namco will have to learn the hard way. Does anybody remember the logo change a couple of years ago, where Bandai Namco admitted that they're commiting to ESG? Woke localisers are the low level henchmen of these ESG investors. Sega will learn the hard way, too.
Despite being of two minds here in regards to A.I., I can't wait for the day these woke localisers get fired and blacklisted from the entire Japanese entertainment industry. These localisers had it coming and I enjoy seeing them squirm and cry, as translations will be less contaminated with western woke ideology. However, the quality of translations will (temporarily) dip, as they will partially lack a certain human touch. There's also a danger that certain (political) biases can also be programmed and integrated into A.I.. Model professional translators can definitely use A.I. as an additional tool to assist them. It's a double-edge sword. Maybe publishers and foreign distributors need to hire Japanese natives who are good to fluent in various foreign languages. Of course, these Japanese native translators would need to be trained and vetted, in order to perform for and represent theses publishers and foreign distributors like model professionals. Translators in the mould of Studio Khara's Dan Kanemitsu or similar come to mind. But I digress.
It’s time to return to the days where translations were never done during the development or production of certain products, but to do translations after the completion of the original (Japanese language) version as it was the way things were done in the past. The tried, tested and successfully proven. Translating Japanese I.P.s under Japanese norms never ever hurt or harmed foreign or domestic users, customers, etc. in any way, due to historical, religious or cultural differences. The Japanese historical, religious or cultural differences are what made and still make Japanese I.P.s successful in the first place. Domestic audiences and fanbases are the lifeblood of every successful I.P.. Foreign audiences and fanbases are a bonus though.
This global / modern audience these wokies talk about doesn't exist, due to audiences never ever being a monolith. Additionally, this moral abstinence wokies love to preach is a hoax, as all they do is classic projection, gaslighting, crybullying and tokenism, which is the bigotry of low expectations and internalised and externalised istophobia of the highest order. Wokies are the embodiment of anti-marketing. This toning down of sexiness of characters is also uncalled for. It's obvious that sexiness always sells and that fan service is customer service, always.
As for those so-called "Global Standards", they aren't what they claim to be. All they are doing is refering to generic lowest common denominator nonsense. I would call such mediocrity "Wooden Spoon Standards". During the 1980s and 1990s, developers and producers had way more creative freedom. This "Wild West" during the 1980s and 1990s were and still are the real global standards. Having full creative freedom and completely ignoring so-called "sensibilities" is the real Global Standard and thus the benchmark and an infinitely growing pinnacle of excellence. Why? Because developers and producers during the 1980s and 1990s were in constant competition with one another. This competition of ideas only encourages people to strive to evolve and better oneself. Again, striving for excellence in quality, creativity, evolution, satisfying cumtomers and fans, etc. is the real Global Standard.
Foreign fans of Japanese I.P.s want translations to be faithful to the original with the creator’s original vision intact, uncut, unedited and uncensored. The same thing goes for the Japanese historical, religious or cultural differences that are included and embedded. That’s what also makes Japanese I.P.s stand out.
This xenophobia and racism against Japan needs to stop. It's time that this ESG Ponzi Scheme gets exposed for what it is.
But that sweeeeeet sweet BlackRock and Vanguard money is so gooood tho
Honestly, we need translation/localisation that is as close to the original language as possible, and certainly without the insertion of any extraneous ideas, regardless of whether they're woke or not.
4Kids/Saban definitely showed how right-wing censorship can also degrade anime, but now it's the leftists.
Oh modern audience exist except we are the modern audience is just that they think the modern audience are just like them, but in every case it's the opposite of what they have in mind, sooner or later they will realize the modern audience were not the ideal audience they were looking for, the term they use for the audience they seek should've been ideal audience, because modern audience are just the same audience they hated but with younger age.
@@shen5533 And when that money runs out, oh my.
Is anyone worried about the possibility that this will also affect Bandai's anime franchises? They own many of the biggest Japanese media franchises, by the way. Although I wouldn't be surprised if a number of recent decisions in Gundam were already a result of this. Not surprisingly, Tomino also hinted at something in that very interview.
Absolutely crazy. We enjoy Japanese culture and media because it isn’t the crap from the west.
Japanese devs:....trust Western localizers they know what their doing
Everyone:......ya fuck that
Me to them: "no thanks "bro!""
~ Leon Scott Kennedy
I just hope to God this doesn't happen to every Japanese developer.
“Fuck you to the moon” - Isaac Butterfield
@@michaelhall736Depends on whether they continue to make money from this.
AI all the way. Full speed ahead if Japan doesn’t change course.
I would not count SEGA endorsing localization as a metric for Japanese support. SEGA is about as Japanese of a company as Square Enix, AKA they aren’t and they’re literally known for being out of touch. This is nothing new from them.
I don't want to live in a world where everyone is obligated to be in a same culture, shame on these companies and """""""localizers""""""".
Then make sure the things in human skin do not exist in our world, anymore.
@@lunatic0verlord10 if only wars was everywhere
@@KomICantCommunIcateguh Yeah, the whole American industry is collapsing in real time, right now.
Once THAT collapses, Japan will be in for a rude awakening.
@@oneplay5570 Well, there is rumbling of a potential new American Civil war, so...
Welcome to Globalism.
Can’t we have ANY form of entertainment without woke politics. Anime was the last thing we had that was untouched by woke politics.
It was coming the minute manga and anime became big. Never brag about what you have unless you want to draw the attention of the evil eye. 🧿
If Japan fully falls I will just not buy anymore games
Go into downloading ROMs on the internet
Been doing that for YEARS and trust me is not that hard, there's a undescribable amount of "old" games that i never played so i kinda always have something do play 😂
I almost never buy games anyway
drink up me hearties yoho!
When the game/anime is nice: "I'll pay for thi-"
It has bad localisation: "Do what you want 'cause a Pirate is free, YOU ARE A PIRATE"
Well, so much for Japan being the final hope for being the last and only place that could at least be able to say no about the whole woke localization in check.
Though now that I think about it more, SEGA is being run by morons anyway.
I just learned the other day that the studio behind Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid was the victim of an arson attack, the director of the series and some 36 employees were murdered in 2019. The fact that their legacy has been hijacked by woke localisers is just disgusting.
edit: corrected the number of victims
Not 19. 36. 36 people died, and another 30 were injured, including the Arsonist, who has been sentenced to death by Japanese courts. He HAS apologized, but at this point, it's too late for that. He'll go down in Japanese history as a serial killer. All because his deluded mind thought KyoAni was stealing his failed ideas and animating them. This is the result of Japan's societal insistance that mental health isn't needed.
@@havefeith Just a note: Serial killers, by definition, commit their acts over a period of time with inactive periods between victims. The KyoAni guy doesn't fall under that umbrella.
@@JonSmith-hk1bqThen…mass murderer?
@@lolicon453 Yes. He definitely qualifies as that.
That’s not even the worst of it. There are people actually CELEBRATING the arson! And Japan thinks they should cater to these people???
Oh so that's why there isn't even a lot of good stuff coming out of Japan recently ?
God I hope Japan gets it right and turn this around
Japanese Devs about to be a bunch of surprised Pikachus.
Surpised Depressos
@@dansmith1661except for palworld
More like Japanese shareholders about to have a surprise Pikachu face when they see their stocks plummeting and desperately try to find the idiot who has been tanking sales.
@@GoodwillWrightStill haven't happened.
Speaking as someone from Europe (Greece), black boots & big leather coats don't make me think of nazis, swastikas do.
The sad thing is, it's not even the localization to make things clear for different cultures that people are upset about. It's the forcible injection of woke politics and pandering that has people up in arms. It's one thing to say that, a joke might need to be changed, because a foreign audience won't understand the reference. It's entirely another thing to change a character into being trans, or insert feminist talking points into the dialog when that wasn't part of the original script.
Well said.
From the perspective of Japanese devs, perhaps they just want to sell their games and also not offend foreigners. That's understandable. The problem is that they've been lied to about what people in the west want, which is as close to the original as possible. The loud few don't speak for the country at large.
more localiser crap? And JP companies are giving into Localisers? Fucking hell how bad ARE things?
The localizers are giving them money to license their work. You think they will pick the option of getting no money?
@@phantom-ri2tg then it's time to begin the second pirate era. Patreon and Subscribestar are a thing now and it's time to begin funding genuine translators to do things.
@@UncensoredScion "second pirate era" You mean another era of giving Japan nothing for their work again? That is how we ended up where we were. or did you forget that Crunchyroll was originally a pirate organization?
Jeez it is almost like Japan would rather side with the people that actually give them money.
@@phantom-ri2tg They’re the ones who want to side with and support those who insult and degrade their own culture and style of storytelling.
Why should people support an industry that does that?
I’ve also said that we should go indie for everything now, Palworld is a good example of a small company that isn’t being affected by this bs, imagine the same for a lot of other JP game devs and anime productions.
And no, I didn’t forget that about Crunchyroll but the difference is that we don’t have to support something that shoves politics and social messaging into the media, the ease of going “yeah I’m done” with that sort of thing is a click of a button.
People are sick and tired of being lectured in their entertainment and if the companies won’t stop it, we have to do it to them.
What it sounds like you want to do is bitch like a woman. Probably are a localiser yourself and know this is one thing you can’t invade easily.
@@phantom-ri2tg And how long do you think that ESG gravy train is going to keep rolling?
Western media is imploding taking losses they can no longer afford. Especially during the current economic downturn.
Crunchyroll only went legit when they had enough money to bankroll licenses. Give people enough alternative means and eventually even the legitimate traffic will move away. Traffic goes away, money will dry up.
Crunchyroll collapses and someone else takes their place. But someone has to make that alternative first.
If Japan wants money then we have to make it clear that the only person getting money will be those who denounce ESG and provide accurate translations.
This reminds of the time during the PS3/Xbox360-era how games were turned into snack food. Until one day, FromSoftware decided to go against SONY's wishes and release Demon's Souls. And that lead up to them developing Dark Souls. And a lot of people like Dark Souls, and not the snack food kinds of games that are Skyrim and Call of Duty.
I hope one of these days we can have a Demon's Souls sort of an outcome in the localization scene.
It's always Sony who causes problems.
@@lunatic0verlord10 The gaming part of sony died when they moved to Commiefornia.
@@Tamachii12 Yeah, they even butchered all their Japanese-made games when the shut down the studios in Japan.
it takes a while to develop things, so now is your chance to tell them "fuck no, we wont pay if you go this way"
MeToo has been "changing mindsets..." They. WISH!! They wish they had that kind of influence and power to reshape *innate* desires. People will never, NEVER stop liking attractive imagery, no matter how much their DELUSION denies this fundamental truth.
If you take ESG money, you don't need my money.
i think ESRB should have another category like: Not suitable for twitter freaks
I hate the woke left
I agree, catering to a very loud twitter minority who probably won't buy the game anyway sounds really stupid. However, if it doesn't decrease sales, they'll think they're doing the right thing and stuff like this is going to stay.
Unfortunately I don't think there's enough people that care and/or are aware of bad localizations yet to greatly affect sales, but hopefully word spreads and it can change in the future.
The only way for it to change is to stop the localizers here in the west from doing what they're doing, even then the damage may already be done. If the executives at these companies already think that they have to make things more woke to sell their stuff to a global market, they'll just do that and people here will buy it regardless.
They are actually catering to ESG free money.
The problem is that twitter minority wormed its way into upper management, bought all the news outlet websites out, and did this completely hidden over a decade ago. They've just only now come into the full force of that power, and it's now being threatened by AI.
I never thought I'd say this, but these localizers make me miss 4Kids. Sure they made bad changes too, but they weren't malicious, or politically motivated.
As a Sega fan, I'm disappointed in Sega's remarks on the subject.
Everyone misses 4kids!
Japan hold strong... please.
Make the best entertainment you can. You should not care if people dislike it or hate it. Just make what you want and put your soul into it and people will always buy. Don't listen to people who don't care for the industry you work in. They have no idea what goes into making a video game or anime.
support street fighter 6, I'm serious. I would consider that game not censored at all with the fan service it has, compared to like mortal kombat 1
@@clairemadeinheavenSo you didn’t see how the uglified Yor in their crossover event or Chun li? Or how they uglified Clair and Jill in the remakes of RE 2 and 3?
@@Taz-ey4jlJill seemed plenty hot to me in the RE3 remake
@@Fordo007 You think women that look like men are hot?
@@Taz-ey4jl not really. Jill did not look like a man in any way.
'Just trust the people who've already unrepentedly failed at their jobs over and over and OVER!'
Yeah, no.
This needs to end, woke localizers will only overstep more and more.
Yea because we allow them either we shout at them to make a change or these kind of people will be everywhere in the industry
This doesn't reflect all Japanese, but I think they've gotten soft or are too nice for their own good. They need to practice better leadership and, in the case of the localizers, to take the leadership back.
EDIT: On a side note, Studio Ghibli was the first company to step in and take the leadership back because in the 1980s, one of their films was butchered, and Ghibli wasn't happy about it. Because of this, they developed an extremely strict "no cuts" policy.
The legend is they sent a katana with the note "No Cuts"
@@clarehidalgo that one's true.
Japan was the last bastion that wasn't corrupted. Sad to see this happening.
You copied based anime enjoyer's comment by a minute lmao
@@shoenicemugshot classic bot account strats. SHAMELESSNESS
Nah, Korea is making way better games than Japan now
@@oxdeadbeef lolwut?
If you truly go this route, you will not only abandon the western market but your own market as well. Don’t lose your identity because of these people.
Ah, it’s Bandai Namco… I hope this punts there numbers even lower so they can learn to stop pandering to the idiots. The new Magical Girl anime is from a studio that up until the 2020’s mainly focused on comedies and light hearted children anime. They now produce mainly ecchi and they keep upping the levels, I honestly think it’s a case of one of the oldest studios trying to showcase that they will not yield to these morons.
Yeah, just talk to any Gundam fan and they'll tell you how bad Bandi is and has been.
that "new magical girl anime" is great
@@xynonners The fact that studio started off making Hello Kitty animations is a bit of whiplash.
Unfortunately they won't be going anywhere anytime soon, they're firmly patched onto the ESG teet.
Fortunately, when companies chase ESG, they usually end up in a state where they have to rely on it, and the more companies it props up, the less ESG money there will be to go around.
Remember, its not "get woke go broke"
It's "go broke, get woke, ultimately croak"
Is what I'd like to say, but unfortunately, with BlackRock and all the other ESG funding companies buying up houses, they'll just prop up their Ponzi scheme with your rent money.
Someone should really Heemeyer their head offices, anyone got a Komatsu D355A on hand?
This just literally pisses me off seeing this. Why the hell isn’t there a boycott about this situation? There needs to be one
Because our money is worthless compared to the boattloads Blackrock and Vanguard provide, nothing you do matters compared to that
Boycotts may not work
There are more permanent alternatives however
@@elliottgaal9774 Like what?
@@spitfire5528 Depends how far you want to go.
@@elliottgaal9774 As far as we can
Man, here we are witnessing the US cultural revolution infect Japan. I hope Japan can resist the trap that we had fallen for.
Well, the common people are pissed, at the very least.
So if, say, a revolution was to start...
just dont bother with those corporations, indies are the way
They won't. Japan has followed all western trends, it just takes a lot longer for it to happen. It was only a matter of time after anime and manga skyrocketed in popularity outside of Japan. Because Japanese culture is very adherent to institutions, they are especially susceptible to influence by corporations in the West that translate or distribute their games outside of Japan, and they also are heavily influenced by western news outlets, reviewers, blogs, and so on. And because westerners want those games, even if they've been mistranslated or Americanized, they sell well, well enough for those Japanese execs to believe that what the West is doing is a good thing. Expect Japan to turn into a hyper-microcosm of what has happened in the west in the coming years, probably just in time for the West to fully escape that poison, and Japan's culture and products will fall into decline. I've already seen a few internet personalities living in Japan like The Anime Man talking about how he's noticed that Japan is changing, and it's scary to see.
I'm pessimist with the notion that japan will survive against the woke revolution.
Their PM, the high and mighty kuso megane once asking assistance from Blackrock, the fuckers who creates the damn ESG.
South Korea will follow japan's path sooner or later.
Whether you like it or not, China is the only country that won't be affected with the Woke Revolution for an obvious reason.
Japan is about to realize that woke-calizers equals bankruptcy.
This isn't anything new. Nintendo was endorsing what Treehouse is doing with Nintendo games years ago (I believe it was during the XB2 release which had all religious and most of the sexual fetish stuff in Poppy's dialogue removed), the Japanese don't care as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line.
What needs to happen is boycotts!
Sadly US/English mainstream media endorses this behavior because they too suffer from brain rot, so you won't see them reporting on this as vigilantly as they should hence casual gamers don't know what has been changed.
Compare that to what German games media did 20-30 years ago when games were censored for the German market, a game being censored was always being brought up and talked about extensively. The result was people not buying or importing US/UK versions instead and it hurt sales so much that some games skipped the German market entirely and on the flip side publishers were happy about advertising an uncensored product when it got through the ratings.
Indie games are going to be fucking THRIVING these upcoming years!
And they'll be kept off Playstation, Xbox, and Steam.
@@mfvlf9644 Well, they can thrive off the Switch, too.
The Switch is rather lenient with indie games.
@@mfvlf9644 we just got to take control of steam and gatekeep to prevent mental illness from taking it over.
Too bad that when you check those indie devs' socials, you often see the usual political messages
@@OldRock84 Not ALL of them are this poisoned, though. Some, but not all.
I my self can be turned a bit off by the constant "Harem" tropes and even some Fan Service but I deal with it and still enjoy the show for what it is, I would NEVER expect Japan to change them. It is not our media, it is theirs.
When like you are a middle school and high school boy the idea of that much female attention sounds great. Now when I talk to my male friends who liked Harem in High school they are all like "That seems like a horribly stressful mess to be in, why did High school me like harem?"
@@clarehidalgoTbf, harem series do show how stressful it is. And most protagonists don't go for the harem ending.
That's the problem with people that DON'T like those things, they are not vocal enough, i know it's bad to "bother" devs in social media, but if you don't do it, other people will and their opinion will be taken in consideration instead of yours
At least NOW they're getting vocal about it.
So we need to keep raising the volume and never stop the assault.
@@lunatic0verlord10exactly. The only way this ends with us winning is if the silent majority becomes the vocal majority.
@@paperluigi6132 Or if enough people do the right actions to destroy the enemy.
They're fragile snowflakes who freak out over everything that SEEMS to threaten them, after all. So if something was to get past their barriers...
I mean, if, say, one of their major figures was to have their criminal records (I'm pretty sure most of them have one) made public and get sent to jail for it, they'll freak out like crazy.
Wow Katrina looks exactly like I would’ve imagined her too
If they continue down this path... they'll come to the grim realization of their mistake... by a hit on their sales as people may move over to korean games
If capitalism worked as intended instead of being manipulated by Blackrock and Co. she would have lost her job and the chance to ever work in the industry ever again seeing how much the fans (us) hate her, what she's said and what she's done
I didn't know about localization but I agree that what's happening to anime is completely uncalled for when it comes to poisonous censorship.
"If you want to please EVERYONE, you will only end up pleasing NO ONE."
Soyga and Bandai Wokeco are trying to pander to an audience that doesn't exist.
This is so gross that companies are bending the knee to people actively and publicly defacing their products
It was literally like a week ago that someone said that my point that the AI translations wouldn't solve anything because the people curating them would be just as likely to be woke and was told, "No, it's fine because they can do the AI in Japan" and I elaborated. I said, "If Crunchyroll or whatever big company in charge of distribution to the West demands they greenlight the translation it'd be more practical to put the current localizers ruining translations in charge of that."
It's cynical but the fans only have so much sway. A lot of companies are too small to publish overseas so they'll license their property out to a company like NISA or XSeed and will generally have to play ball. The ones that are big enough to have overseas publishing networks don't care. To put it bluntly, in order for it to have an impact the cost of lost sales due to boycotting need to surpass the impact that would be had If a large distributor refuses to release a project they don't have control over, and I don't think that such a thing WILL happen. And for shareholders there will be the defense who insist that it has nothing to do with the translation and is entirely due to something like "bad marketing."
We saw extreme level of wokeism in last few Western games like Spiderman 2 probably like 5 or more years from now on japan made games will reach that level major changes made with the ff remakes like with the honey bee inn scenes of course they will not stop in that level we'll how fast major japanese games become purely Western slop this is so boring that everything is just have same structure now this kind of thing are not so rainbow colored they like to think actually
just watch anime in non-oficial pages where the subs are done by fans, respecting what is actualy said, without agendas behind, so the localize version won't make the expected revenue, about games, if you dislike, don't buy it, there are so many alternatives out there, every week there are new releases, just embrance the: go woke, go broke
I truly hope Bandai Namco, Sega, et al are not indicative of the general trend in Japan. We have shown that enough people who are sufficiently cheesed off at an ESG-subservient corporation can effectively bring it to its knees. Vote with your feet and your wallets, folks. You don't have to boycott -- merely steer your hard earned buckage into products and services that better align with your priorities and goals.
A great big _"Banzai!"_ to Nagoshi-sensei! He gets it! We need to support creators like this in Japan who get it.
As Much as I love Bandai, they are run by fucking idiots who doesn't understand games because their Parent company is a Real estate developer who makes toys
Add Crapcom to the list.
They've kinda been crap for a while even before the whole woke thing. Bandai Namco can't keep a live service property open for more than a year and Sega is nothing but constant bad decisions. They've been incompetent companies for a long time now and are only held up by their licenses or massively successful IPs (like Gundam) that protects them from their failed endeavours.
I’m soo tired of being treated like a child by a bunch of people who think they know what is right and wrong
Remember when liberals used to say that about conservatives? Lol, how times change...
Not even a smart kid either.
They treat like unwanted stepchild
Projection is the single constant of communist subversion.@@Talonos2
@@Talonos2 i know right?
They did learn from the best lol
We can change this by proving the woke localizers are wrong.
The higher up are the ones pushing it.
They have more money to throw around.
It's not the localizers doing this its the investors lol
My comment been deleted. I was right again.
Nah, guys, we can out wait them.
No one can throw away good will quite like Japanese video game companies. Sega and Capcom spent years rebuilding their reputation and now they're throwing it all away again.
If Japanese devs want to endorse these people, then I will simply not buy their games. I have long since stopped playing Squareenix, Capcom, Namco and various other devs games. They hold no interest to me anymore, everything that made them fun and exciting has gone and that is even before it gets to localization. I could play it in Japanese and STILL have just as sour of a time. The moment they started trying to make games for a "global" audience, was when all the heart and soul of their games had finally left.
Japanese games and anime are popular not only because they have distinctly Japanese things, but also because it does stuff western media doesn't. There's actually a lot of Japanese games and media which are doing character tropes and plots that Hollywood used to do in the 1950s-1990s. But Hollywood have deemed those things bad and cancelled them. So of course if someone wants to have something like the old Batman cartoon or a movie like Back to the Future, Hollywood isn't making anything like that anymore. But you can find an anime or video game equivalent.
The issue is, the localizers are part of (or trying to get into) the Hollywood crowd. And so they tow the Hollywood line, censoring and sabotaging Japanese media to "bring it in line with western values." Basically, localization is a form of control. It has been since the 1980s and before. They just are finally being called out on it because we have the internet and we can look up what's been altered. Back in the 1980s and 90s, it was a lot harder to find the original version and learn what was altered so they had more control over it.
Katrina: *_"...you can adjust the cultural interpretations as you need to. At some cases, you can even contact the developer and be like 'Hey, I want to change this little visual aspect so it works better for their culture.' So, you have a little bit more control over what the player is going to experience..."_*
Let me ask a question. Why do people like the "Yakuza" games? It is *_because_* of how overtly Japanese they are. It is something could never be developed on western shores and is not like anything western audiences have grown accustomed to for many years. And if you so much as inject political messages into it, then you just lost all of your loyal, diehard fans who loved how unique the game was.
The current state of "localization" is the same as if Japan's wagyu beef producers hired a bunch of American vegans to advise how best to sell their beef in the US, and now they are following the vegans' demands to start replacing beef with soy without telling the customers.
Japan is about to learn the hard way. Oh, well...
Like they learned the hard way years ago when this translation first became news?
Funny enough knowing how most japanese talk shit about localizers or american tv shows . These companies not as supported like american companies will lose millions and then take the knee of shame. And focus on customers
Actually, i prefer to support indie developers instead of mainstream AAA developers
I watch Japanese animation because I want to see Japanese animation. I want Japanese style writing, storytelling, humor, culture, etc. That's why I'm watching it. Don't localize it to be all western, if I wanted western style media, I'd watch western media.
It is officially joever bros.
If those Idiots get more power, we should start just watching the subs instead of dubs. If our words don't work, our money will
Make sure it's fan subs on pirate websites and don't buy new games just emulate older games about all we can do
$ always talks (for better or worse).
Why aren’t you watching subs anyway? 90% of the western voice acting community are woke! Don’t watch dubbed anime. Subs only and even those are becoming suspect.
@@Boskov01 the dubs I watch are mainly just Dragonball, Z and super.
@@yamato9753 based (I vehemently hate almost all dubs)
Japan: just let the localizers turn our content into more western gray slime!
Once it starts affecting Japanese fans and they'll voice their opinion, they will fix this fast.
Hopefully, and not become corrupted themselves.
Let’s hope so.
at least Nintendo will get out of this long term.
I told you that Japan was not going to fix *your* problems in place of you. So will you go into denial?
*Edit*
Partially nevermind I found out this article was talking about video games .
@@mrconroy4672one can hope.
It's time for us to start taking Japanese classes.
And put those localizers out of a job.
Gatekeep gatekeep hold the line make fun of these chuckleheads
ive always wanted to learn Japanese, this just makes me want to learn it more
That's exactly why I think AI is the only way out. The core problem lies at the corporations who produce the IP, not just the localizers. They only ever saw the backlashes online and thought this is exactly what users want while it could be very far from the truth. If people can run good enough machine translations locally that, with AI, can even understand nuances, it acts as checks and balances to those corporations and localizers and force them to react, while also reaching coverage beyond typical fan translations.
AI can't solve this if games are being altered at the fundamental level (changing character designs because the outfit's too revealing, scripts/dialogue being changed to where the wokealization *is* the actual wording, ect).
Maximize AI outreach.
@@dakomissar363 Yes. This won't bring Bridget back, but at least it'd disincentivize wokealizers to mess with things.
The rest will be up to the modders and potentially AIs that can help reverse engineering and patching the games.
you say that, but I bet people could make a mod pack that alters the voice lines to fit a more original source material for games using AI voice overs for those parts (as well as text). For example; a game from the edo period comes out and the wokelizers/corpwokes add in political pandering, an AI mod pack could theoretically alter the dialogue to fit within that time period, and stay consistent (given the human modder assists in this re-writing) throughout the story, effectively changing the story to fit that time period and the general concept of the game.
Problem being; what if the gameplay itself is woke? Then there's no worry, because consumers will just drop the hot garbage and the company wont make a return on investment. @@dakomissar363
Its absolutely insane how people will twist this argument to fit their own needs, when this is simply about getting higher quality translations. Revuwu is completely accurate about this
6:22 thanks for featuring my tweet. One take away after watching several interviews with different localizers is that they all sound very vague like in that clip, so too many normies still think the likes of Katrina aren't doing anything wrong.
They're toning down things like alcohol and religion....... how the hell did we end up back here? Did everyone just forget that 4kids was widely hated for pulling this crap about two decades ago?
What's even more ironic is that 4kids at least had the excuse of appealing (albeit in an out-of-touch fashion) towards..... well, it's in their name. In contrast, these current year localizers are working with media most commonly aimed at teens and young adults, people who should be mature enough to handle extreme content (and if they can't, they should also be mature enough to simply choose not to watch). But nope, certain types of content have to be toned down because they, the localizers, say so, and they, the localizers, just arbitrarily think that you, the audience, are incapable of handling the very same type of content that the original Japanese audience were able to handle just fine.
I love how they say this at the worst possible moment when everyone now hates the localizers compared to even a month ago when the hate was pretty focused on those that were effected
One thing to consider is the Japanese mindset. This is a collectivist society, at least socially.
The localizers have a pre-established relationship and in Japan they seek to please and expect these activists to be of a like minded mindset.
Here's the thing, if you see something you don't like.
1. Contact the original dev or publisher directly, tell them your complaint, be very clear as it is going to a person that doesn't speak your language.
2. Boycott the manga or game, permanently. It takes time to make a dent this way. So for example, you're paying for CR subscription, mot only do you cancel the subscription nut you also don't watch with ads earlier
2.
We need some indies to stand up and start making "offensive" games. Said games would probably sell well, and maybe that'll turn heads on some of these companies. or not, at least we'd have some cool indie games. And of course, some drama we can eat popcorn and watch. Just, the people doing this need to hide their identities so they don't get death threats. if I had the skill to make games, I would make an offensive game on purpose, just to give these idiots the middle finger.
The only company I see in Japan that doesn't censor their anime or games aka card games is Bushiroad with Cardfight Vanguard! They don't put that crap in their anime or game and it is why I love Cardfight Vanguard so much!
Japan bending the knee to these woke localizers means that whatever comes out of Japan now is doomed too...
Please don't let this be permanent
Sigh this shit pissed off everyone for good reasons.
I like the military uniforms in anime. The natsocs were very stylish
I feel like the Japanese are too nice or well too lenient on this stuff. They would rather agree with it unless pushed to the extreme.
Not to mention that the term "extreme" is highly subjective.
This is it. Japanese will always initially side with the existing authority. It was never going to be as simple as a few anime-avatars messaging people on twitter.
The good side of the Japanese mind here is that you don't have to overcome this authority more than once. Once it's proven that the majority do not want this, most other Japanese developers will fall in line.
Ha! Oh boi. In Japan, customer is always right. The only reason they seem "okay" with this is because it is literally not their problem. It is up to us, as the "audience" and the target consumers of localizations to deal with this.
It will be a long battle though. Honestly, the best way to combat this is for a rival company to be established.
The issue is that japan has been an american colony for almost a century and like americans theyve become complacent and neutered.
Well, bring back the "Wild West" then. And anyone who feels "excluded" in such an environment, let them feel excluded. Nobody's entitled to feel, or even be, included.
At this point, I think Western indie devs could make a more faithful Japanese than the Japanese devs, if they’re going to be bending the knee like this.
At this point anything revolving around media seems to be in the gutter unless its indi
At this point, AI could make a better Manga, Anime etc. than Japan.
Don't purchase the products, don't even interact with them except to call out the BS.
Never forget that they need you to survive, you do not need them.
Glad to know Sega feels this way, I will let Sonic Frontiers be the last game I buy from them. I recently cancelled my Crunchyroll Subscription because of this localizer situation and started sailing the seven seas to watch my anime, and will do the same with Sega's games. I'm just gonna do the same with their games, or just won't buy it at all. I'm done supporting Woke shit chase your modern audience, let me know how far it gets you.
Pirating Sega's games is going to be a problem because every game they release on PC comes with denuvo and they almost NEVER remove it
@@speed3414 denuvo games get cracked all the time usually within hours to days of release its not like when it was first used and took a month plus for it to be broken, almost every big title from capcom sega and hell the majority of the AAA industry has been using denuvo for over 10 years now. grabbed cracked copies is easy as hell of nearly everything. and usually the cracked version runs much better because of how shit denuvo is in the first place.
@@yamivalkri not really, a lot of denuvo games have not been cracked to this days, mostly Sega ones, some even had it for over 5 years.
Only one person was able to crack denuvo and nowadays that person stopped doing that
@@speed3414 Well, it's like I said in my original point, I'm not interested in supporting them if this is going to be their stance. So if I can't pirate it I just won't buy it, there are thousands of games on PC ill be fine without their product. Now if they release a product where it isn't bending to lunatics on Twitter/X ill be happy to give them money then.
@@Vortex-5025 idk if you heard of Spark the Electric Jester 3 but I highly recommend it
Better than any 3D Sonic game
Gotta love all these companies listening to the people who don't actually give a shit about, and wouldn't support in the first place, what they're making.
Do they not see that all the businesses that are doing this stuff are just slowly going under?
Do you not see that they dont care as the investors pay them anyway?
ESG demands that they do such.
@@Asertix357 And look what it did to Disney.
No amount of "I can do better" will save them from this fate. Only a "I'm not doing that shit" can save them.
At this point i am fairly convinced it's not about money anymore because big corps has abundance of it but to push the agenda at all cost.
Don't know why, what's the purpose of it, who's so desperate to keep this social engineering going at all cost but it's evident money is never an issue.
@@lunatic0verlord10 Disney is still around and will continue to be around for decads to come because th invstors want this sort of thing, thy dont car if it bombs.
As a reminder, Like A Dragon hired an Anti (Nyanners) to promote their game. Nyanners is an open xenophobe and has called Japan and its culture pedophiles. She still has pomf pomf privated which means she stands by with what she has said about Japan. Them hiring Nyanners just highlights how much they hate Japan and its culture.
Stuff like this just further discourages me from buying new games. I have a backlog that could last me through in to 2040.
You can still get new games. Buying them on the other hand…🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
They're probably being given a lot of money to fold like this.
Exactly, you got it right.