I agree, though technically it's because unlike the French that merely set up outposts in Canada to trade, the British legit conquered and colonised Canada. Realistically, there were no independent tribes of Inuits roaming Canada by the time of the British. They still should have given the Inuits with one small, northern region though.
I remember playing as the Pueblo nations one of my provinces had a settler rebellion and by the time my army showed up it had gotten pretty large. It was like 1800 or something settlers armed with muskets, meanwhile my force had 4 units of axe men and 3 units of archers so if memory serves that was like, 800 guys. When I go to the battlefield I see this mountain in the corner so I garrison all my troops just behind the ridge of the mountain, because of that the settlers didn't have a direct line of fire and had to charge up to engage in melee where my axes were superior, and the entire time they were charging up the hill they had arrows raining down on them. By the time the battle was finished the settlers had suffered about 1400 casualties while i only suffered about 75. It was amazing.
I remember doing a similar strategy in barbarian invasion, I was playing as the franks and was at war with the Slavs who had settled outside my territory so I sent an army to take it since they had a small garrison in the city but when the army crossed the borders they were attacked by 2 large horde sized armies so I fought this battle and at the corner of the map there was a large rock with a small rise so I put my siege weapon (an onager) at the top of the small rise and my 2 archer units behind my infantry which was 2 units of axe throwers and 2 units of axe men with shields and kept them in this position and we won the battle flawlessly.
One of my favorite campaigns of any strategy game for how it forced you to completely change how you played. You had to bait them, divide them, lure them into woodlands and ambushes; any less and you’d get a Pyrrhic victory at best. I had one campaign where I was doing pretty good until Mexico betrayed me and sent doom stacks into my land. It almost destroyed us, but I consolidated my army for one epic engagement; one doom stack against another, and one of those stacks was far more technologically advanced than the other. But by that time my warriors were hardened veterans, while the Mexican army had been shielded by us and didn’t know war. It was an intense fight, and the tactics I usually used failed in a number of places, but for once my troops did not run and stood their ground even when they suffered casualties, and we defeated them and retook our land.
This was one of the greatest parts of total war empire as line battles arent really interesting but warpath reminds me of like the total wars set in the older time periods
Ikr, the Spanish even said that the people of the Caribbean deserved to be conquered and “civilised” when all the Spanish did was enslave them, plunder their temples and forcefully convert them to Christianity. Edit: made this comment when i was ignorant, but those who say actually have some truth behind it, the native tribes by the time the colonists came had been fighting each other for centuries and when the Europeans came, many tribes allied with them to get back at their old enemies.
@@wa-bu3ke The Eastern tribes didn't wear these headdresses and totem poles are from the North West. In the intro you see a tribal warrior wearing a headdress from the great plains on the east coast...
Russian conquest of Siberia was qualitatively different from American push to the West.The natives still live in Siberia, because they are the only people willing to live there. :-))
Native Americans didn't have horses before the Europeans; the Hispanic conquistadores brought them, and they, in turn, got them from the Arab world which got them from the Khan's in northern Asia around current Mongolia. You should know better, than to offend someone, when you, yourself, don't know the answer.
Nice Booty YT manifest destiny wasn’t all that glorious. It like shooting a sick man with a knife. In the earliest of days colonization was impossible due to native backlash until disease ravaged through, then they were easy pickings.
@HAAKONAS he Spaniards found no horses in Mexico, Central America or Peru, and from that they deduced that there were no horses on the American continent. However, Sir Francis Drake, visiting the west coast of North America, saw “large bands of wild horses,”
great trailer but spotted that Indians never had guns till later., as Spain came in 15 century but UK came in 16 century. yes i do think Spain had the better ships, trust me they did that is how they mostly got their first. i love the USA ships more though.
i cant imagine there are that many first language speakers though, they were one of the groups who bore the brunt of the assimilation process, though i suppose theres little need for english on the reservation
Ah, the age old "resort to insults when can't think of anything better to say" I was under the impression we were both on earth = \. But aye, i'm assuming nothing man, i don't know you. we were both born with the same mental potential, we have different opinions that we are both entitled to, and no. I don't assume i'm the better man just because i think differently. I am merely trying to change your way of thinking for the sake of our grandchildren, and their children. We're on a bad path man.
yeah, i agree, they at least didn't salt the earth :P as for the rest, they did. and, there was no way they could reach the extend most of the world's wars, they had less population, less technology, and wars were conducted by the warrior class, and not the whole of the (male) population.
@Alienmad462 In Peru, Ecuador and other parts of South America, there was llamas. Fluffy furr and good in the mountains XD There was guinea pigs too, good pets and actors XD
actually, native americans had wars aswell. LOTS of them, for slaves, women, tribute and such. even ceremonial/religious wars (and no, i'm not refering Only to the Aztecs) the thing is we tend to emphasize Europe when we learn history (depending on the region of the world you live). so we tend to think that native americans were peaceful. they were as "bad" as any other people in the world.
Anyone can claim anything, but without credible evidence, you prove NOTHING. Native Americans made limited wars, sure, but that doesn't justify the Europeans' invasion, total war and genocide in the Americas, and does not justify the continuing occupation of Native American land nor the oppression of Native Americans by the descendants of the invaders.
@@SimonAshworthWood "You prove nothing" Funny that are you willfully ignoring the fact that native American empires such as the Incans, Aztecs, and Iroquis also had their own wars of expansion at the expense of other tribes. These weren't "small wars". At least the Europeans weren't tearing out the hearts of people cause Sun god said so. Man wasn't even justifying European expansion into Native American lands but just mentioned that the natives wee no different from European imperialists. They just lost cause they simply couldn't compete. Nice whataboutism.
@@imgvillasrc1608 actually europeans were far worse. Most tribes didn't do ethnic cleasing compared to what happened to the natives. A lot of tribes had two type of wars, expansion: usually made by the more settled nations, however even that was not very blood! I think everyone hated the aztecs and their way of conquest, your argument would basically call europeans bloodthirsty for what the nazis did to jews! Last but not least is that many groups in SA and NA hardly had great wars of conquest, actually most wars of conquest in North america only happened after the European settlers arrived and made really large colonies. Inca empire was pretty calm, if we ignore the emperor killed anyone who shined brighter than him we could say their had a quite good nation, specially when we consider the Incas had to rely in diplomacy with internal kingdoms! The Inca were so peaceful that theh accepted some spanish conquistadores in their lands (however after a massacre in a temple, and the puppeted emperor having his wife r*ped lead to a all out war!"
daveyboy900, I see where you are coming from, but some people will be too stubborn to see the truth, it will take them a long time to realize it, but hopefully they will eventually wake up
At 0:32, the native Americans are on horses, waiting to greet the Spanish Problem is, there were no horses in America until the Europeans came and brought them!!!
I respect what you said, man. True i labelled Americans as bad people. Truthfully that was not my intention, my real gripe is with capitalism. America is the most powerful country in the world militarily, they (in my opinion) are abusing their power and using fear to push their culture and way of thinking through. I have the utmost respect for your relatives that died fighting for what they believed in. However, I personally believe that each American citizen has been fooled into believing(cont)
Even with that technological gap, the Native Americans were quite capable at war. While Napoleonic France and nazi Germany took only a few years to conquer Europe, Europeans took centuries to conquer the first nations of the Americas.
I understand your point of view Daveyboy, but we have left Iraq first of all. So no we aren't still there. In Aghanistan we're still there. But America isn't the evil enemy to the world. We do bad stuff from time to time. But almost every country does or did. So I find the hate of America to be unnecessary, and while I show no pride for being an American I at least respect this place because of all my relatives that have died fighting for it.
Kinda on a loop here, think about this. Because of capitalism, people are starving to death every day. India is in complete poverty, the rich in india live luxurious lives while the poor live in muck and mire, it's an absolute disgrace. Put yourself in their position man, you may be having a comfortable life because of capitalism. But those that aren't are suffering a worse fate than i would wish on any man. I realise i cant talk sense into you so i'll just let the future show you what i mean.
The Native Americans were quite capable at war. While Napoleonic France and nazi Germany took only a few years to conquer Europe, Europeans took centuries to conquer the first nations of the Americas.
I think its time to call this discussion off..... your idead and opinians are waaaaaaaaaay to far away from mine, nothing good can come out of this. Have a good day.
Neither, there has to be a way where everyone benefits man. Capitalism does 1 thing. Makes people look out for themselves and themselves only, humanity is NEVER gonna survive like that, capitalism is not only destroying our planet, it's poisoning the minds of everybody on it. And think about it, communism wasnt that bad, just the people who enforced it were (Stalin, etc). There are more ways to go than just capitalism / communism, things can change and things will... one day, we wont see it :(
Regular capitalism killed, and continues to kill, 20 million people each year. In 5 years, regular capitalism kills as many people as "Communism" (state capitalism) killed from 1917 to today. ruclips.net/video/QnIsdVaCnUE/видео.html
@cecevans he Spaniards found no horses in Mexico, Central America or Peru, and from that they deduced that there were no horses on the American continent. However, Sir Francis Drake, visiting the west coast of North America, saw “large bands of wild horses,”
I much prefer the Napoleonic campaign, I plan to stop the diaster that was Jena unt Austerdadt, bring down Napoleon, and raise the Prussian Eagle over Paris, returning France back to the Monarchy.
Anyone can claim anything, but without credible evidence, you prove NOTHING. Native Americans made limited wars, sure, but that doesn't justify the Europeans' invasion, total war and genocide in the Americas, and does not justify the continuing occupation of Native American land nor the oppression of Native Americans by the descendants of the invaders.
Never understood why the Inuit Nations were a faction in the campaign but not playable in this dlc
I agree, though technically it's because unlike the French that merely set up outposts in Canada to trade, the British legit conquered and colonised Canada. Realistically, there were no independent tribes of Inuits roaming Canada by the time of the British. They still should have given the Inuits with one small, northern region though.
0:30 did they seriously leave the mouse cursor on screen in the official trailer...
Lol
How did you even notice that? LOL
Ahahahhaha
@@noobnooby2054 The spirit of the Eagle guides him.
It was a simpler time back then
I remember playing as the Pueblo nations one of my provinces had a settler rebellion and by the time my army showed up it had gotten pretty large. It was like 1800 or something settlers armed with muskets, meanwhile my force had 4 units of axe men and 3 units of archers so if memory serves that was like, 800 guys. When I go to the battlefield I see this mountain in the corner so I garrison all my troops just behind the ridge of the mountain, because of that the settlers didn't have a direct line of fire and had to charge up to engage in melee where my axes were superior, and the entire time they were charging up the hill they had arrows raining down on them. By the time the battle was finished the settlers had suffered about 1400 casualties while i only suffered about 75. It was amazing.
Man, you are the best strategist!
I did something similar with peasant longbows in Medieval Total War 2
I remember doing a similar strategy in barbarian invasion, I was playing as the franks and was at war with the Slavs who had settled outside my territory so I sent an army to take it since they had a small garrison in the city but when the army crossed the borders they were attacked by 2 large horde sized armies so I fought this battle and at the corner of the map there was a large rock with a small rise so I put my siege weapon (an onager) at the top of the small rise and my 2 archer units behind my infantry which was 2 units of axe throwers and 2 units of axe men with shields and kept them in this position and we won the battle flawlessly.
Hills > Guns.
All hail the War Chief!
One of my favorite campaigns of any strategy game for how it forced you to completely change how you played. You had to bait them, divide them, lure them into woodlands and ambushes; any less and you’d get a Pyrrhic victory at best. I had one campaign where I was doing pretty good until Mexico betrayed me and sent doom stacks into my land. It almost destroyed us, but I consolidated my army for one epic engagement; one doom stack against another, and one of those stacks was far more technologically advanced than the other. But by that time my warriors were hardened veterans, while the Mexican army had been shielded by us and didn’t know war. It was an intense fight, and the tactics I usually used failed in a number of places, but for once my troops did not run and stood their ground even when they suffered casualties, and we defeated them and retook our land.
so do any of the tribes use rifles on horseback?
@@brettglover135 I’m not sure, maybe in the later game
I can never get enough of the music for this campaign.
Me too, but the battle music for me became a bit too repetitive
This music is not Empire's TW music, it was fully taken from Medieval II :)
Really cool campaign. I wish we had the option for canoes for transport. I'd do it even though 3/4 my army would die.
Darth Mod lets you use ships.
This campaign always had the best soundtrack
This is the best campaign of this game.
I am Mescalero Apache and Irish this is just a game trailer and it made me cry.
romanobritish and now you’re a Roman too and a Brit? Didn’t know people could change their ethnicity just like that.
@@thekid2389 you realize that he can be both if he had a native parent and an Irish parent right
This and Fall of Samurai are among greatest campaign in Total War history.
I believe Napoleon is the best
What? Warpath is one of the worst expansions in the series.
@@Omega4Productions In your opinion, people are allowed to think this is great too.
@@parthiaball Yeah, and I can STRONGLY disagree with it.
Warpath brought nothing to the table.
@@Omega4Productions *Bane voice* For you
These where the days when total war was amazing
Still is.
Still is. But I reckon that Warpath was not a great DLC to be honest.
This was one of the greatest parts of total war empire as line battles arent really interesting but warpath reminds me of like the total wars set in the older time periods
Best Expansion ever!
The warpath campaign makes empire total war the ultimal game.
Sioux and Apache are unit's in the much larger general faction lists.
Sad lots of people said the native's attacked their home.But look who's actually attacking their home.
Ikr, the Spanish even said that the people of the Caribbean deserved to be conquered and “civilised” when all the Spanish did was enslave them, plunder their temples and forcefully convert them to Christianity.
Edit: made this comment when i was ignorant, but those who say actually have some truth behind it, the native tribes by the time the colonists came had been fighting each other for centuries and when the Europeans came, many tribes allied with them to get back at their old enemies.
I really like this campaign
Once you unlocked the Comanche Riders they were the best mounted unit in the game
how do you build a navy in the campaign i want to invade islands?
The same way the real Native Americans did.
If you play the game with Darth Mod the native americans can build some ships, it also is achievements compatible.
Around 0:43, when he says 'they brought sickness', i thought it was 'they brought syphilis' which might be true as well haahaha
Making an "expansion pack" that should have been in the original game ftw!
The cherokee didn't have totem poles and they didn't wear war bonnets like that.
Might not be cherokee
@@wa-bu3ke The Eastern tribes didn't wear these headdresses and totem poles are from the North West. In the intro you see a tribal warrior wearing a headdress from the great plains on the east coast...
i really have taken interest in native american history mostly thanks to playing this
Is funny Reading random people talking about Rusia conquering stuff and capitalists vs communists
Never change internet
Wtf communism wasn’t even a thing then
@@sotch2271 read the comments
You too man, peace!
Better than the base game
Russian conquest of Siberia was qualitatively different from American push to the West.The natives still live in Siberia, because they are the only people willing to live there. :-))
even Spain's conquest of mesoamerica was more humane. Atleast they bred with the indigenous people.
@@maaz322 they made racial caste
Native Americans didn't have horses before the Europeans; the Hispanic conquistadores brought them, and they, in turn, got them from the Arab world which got them from the Khan's in northern Asia around current Mongolia. You should know better, than to offend someone, when you, yourself, don't know the answer.
The Native Americans had horses because of Spanish imperialism in the 15th-16th century.
@crazygeek777 you live near the cherokee?
gonna buy this game now just to manifest Destiny. lol
Nice Booty YT manifest destiny wasn’t all that glorious. It like shooting a sick man with a knife. In the earliest of days colonization was impossible due to native backlash until disease ravaged through, then they were easy pickings.
@@thekid2389 Yeah, look at how the colonists begged for Great Britain's military aid when the natives could fight cohesively at their true strength.
Is there a game similar to this but made more recently ??
total war napoleon
Run to the Hiiiiiiiiiills! Run foooor you liiiiiiiiiife!
Is this just an add on to the main campaign?
@HAAKONAS
he Spaniards found no horses in Mexico, Central America or Peru, and from that they deduced that there were no horses on the American continent. However, Sir Francis Drake, visiting the west coast of North America, saw “large bands of wild horses,”
the indians had no real concept of total war until the europeans arrived
At 1:31 which unit is that?
It's US marine
I just jizzed in my cereal
i would like to see this remasterd
great trailer but spotted that Indians never had guns till later., as Spain came in 15 century but UK came in 16 century. yes i do think Spain had the better ships, trust me they did that is how they mostly got their first. i love the USA ships more though.
mistake is at 0:30
In 0:45 what map is that?
Where can I buy this?
@crazygeek777 its a british company so theres going to be a tinge of british accent in their actors voices, and its definitely noticeable here
i cant imagine there are that many first language speakers though, they were one of the groups who bore the brunt of the assimilation process, though i suppose theres little need for english on the reservation
Ah, the age old "resort to insults when can't think of anything better to say" I was under the impression we were both on earth = \. But aye, i'm assuming nothing man, i don't know you. we were both born with the same mental potential, we have different opinions that we are both entitled to, and no. I don't assume i'm the better man just because i think differently. I am merely trying to change your way of thinking for the sake of our grandchildren, and their children. We're on a bad path man.
yeah, i agree, they at least didn't salt the earth :P
as for the rest, they did.
and, there was no way they could reach the extend most of the world's wars, they had less population, less technology, and wars were conducted by the warrior class, and not the whole of the (male) population.
Iroquois is the first I am going to play got to reclaim ontario for the iroquois :)
how do u gt lozan on this game she was apaches best warrior and she was a woman
Why didn't they have this in the original anyway? It's just a re-skin of some more generalised factions that are easily moddable.
they shoulda put sioux and apache
The "Sioux" were represented by Plains Indians. :) I think of the Pueblo Indians as including the Apache.
Russia did the same thing that America did only it was to the pastoral peoples of Siberia and Central Asia
@Alienmad462 In Peru, Ecuador and other parts of South America, there was llamas. Fluffy furr and good in the mountains XD There was guinea pigs too, good pets and actors XD
@crazygeek777 yes i have, the annual powwow here there was an elderly Hopi who spoke his language as his 1st and english as his 2nd
actually, native americans had wars aswell. LOTS of them, for slaves, women, tribute and such. even ceremonial/religious wars (and no, i'm not refering Only to the Aztecs)
the thing is we tend to emphasize Europe when we learn history (depending on the region of the world you live). so we tend to think that native americans were peaceful. they were as "bad" as any other people in the world.
Anyone can claim anything, but without credible evidence, you prove NOTHING.
Native Americans made limited wars, sure, but that doesn't justify the Europeans' invasion, total war and genocide in the Americas, and does not justify the continuing occupation of Native American land nor the oppression of Native Americans by the descendants of the invaders.
@@SimonAshworthWood "You prove nothing" Funny that are you willfully ignoring the fact that native American empires such as the Incans, Aztecs, and Iroquis also had their own wars of expansion at the expense of other tribes. These weren't "small wars".
At least the Europeans weren't tearing out the hearts of people cause Sun god said so.
Man wasn't even justifying European expansion into Native American lands but just mentioned that the natives wee no different from European imperialists. They just lost cause they simply couldn't compete. Nice whataboutism.
@@SimonAshworthWood the iroquoi took slaves, slave were part of the family and the tribe
@@imgvillasrc1608 actually europeans were far worse.
Most tribes didn't do ethnic cleasing compared to what happened to the natives.
A lot of tribes had two type of wars, expansion: usually made by the more settled nations, however even that was not very blood!
I think everyone hated the aztecs and their way of conquest, your argument would basically call europeans bloodthirsty for what the nazis did to jews!
Last but not least is that many groups in SA and NA hardly had great wars of conquest, actually most wars of conquest in North america only happened after the European settlers arrived and made really large colonies.
Inca empire was pretty calm, if we ignore the emperor killed anyone who shined brighter than him we could say their had a quite good nation, specially when we consider the Incas had to rely in diplomacy with internal kingdoms!
The Inca were so peaceful that theh accepted some spanish conquistadores in their lands (however after a massacre in a temple, and the puppeted emperor having his wife r*ped lead to a all out war!"
UMAGA!!!
Napoleon Total War is due February 2010
no never heard or seen it used in that way so no i meant apache
Cherokeeeee i feel this game in my blood..I dunno jk
I wish I was a Mohawk American. :(
For ?
daveyboy900, I see where you are coming from, but some people will be too stubborn to see the truth, it will take them a long time to realize it, but hopefully they will eventually wake up
maybe the way they speak that you said, the accents that sound like uk/commonwealth accents are a product of the smoking?
before the white settlers came?
Yknow when i played this campaign IT KEPT CRASHING ON THE 1ST MISSION
But it was AMAZING
I am actually good friends with a Navajo dude named dewey bob.
it's in kingdoms? looks like empire
did they even have horses in america before the colonists ?? i thought europeans brought horses with them
The scene is set in late 1700s
European are there since 1550 at least
Thats the plus side to living in the tundra :)
At 0:32, the native Americans are on horses, waiting to greet the Spanish
Problem is, there were no horses in America until the Europeans came and brought them!!!
Or were there? ;)
Heyeyyeyayayayyaheyayay
@n18brad probably,yes
native americans are good at melee combat but at range europeans take advantege
I respect what you said, man. True i labelled Americans as bad people. Truthfully that was not my intention, my real gripe is with capitalism. America is the most powerful country in the world militarily, they (in my opinion) are abusing their power and using fear to push their culture and way of thinking through. I have the utmost respect for your relatives that died fighting for what they believed in. However, I personally believe that each American citizen has been fooled into believing(cont)
We need a zulu one and bores in 2021
0:28 is that true?
actually yes its true, the first meet between native american and white (atztecs and spains i think so) was very peaceful
Well think about it, if the spaniard were destroyed by the Aztec then the south America will still speak their native language
@crazygeek777 it sounds like a deeper stewie accent, which itself is SOMEWHAT british
@Cruelinside713 dude chill, he's just refering to the video
yh they did but they use to be horse wisper
btw,bows and arrows versus rifles and cannons may have been a factor in the demise of the american indian, h
Even with that technological gap, the Native Americans were quite capable at war. While Napoleonic France and nazi Germany took only a few years to conquer Europe, Europeans took centuries to conquer the first nations of the Americas.
@cecevans no. historical error.
1 little 2 little 3 little indians ... boy i could go on like that when i'm playing Empire total war :D
I understand your point of view Daveyboy, but we have left Iraq first of all. So no we aren't still there. In Aghanistan we're still there. But America isn't the evil enemy to the world. We do bad stuff from time to time. But almost every country does or did. So I find the hate of America to be unnecessary, and while I show no pride for being an American I at least respect this place because of all my relatives that have died fighting for it.
The USA causes harm every year, with its constant wars and support for dictatorships and economic exploitation of people in Third World nations.
dont u mean apachean
Kinda on a loop here, think about this. Because of capitalism, people are starving to death every day. India is in complete poverty, the rich in india live luxurious lives while the poor live in muck and mire, it's an absolute disgrace. Put yourself in their position man, you may be having a comfortable life because of capitalism. But those that aren't are suffering a worse fate than i would wish on any man. I realise i cant talk sense into you so i'll just let the future show you what i mean.
tomahawk handax versus musket rifle huh
Well you're men have bow and arrows rifles and people can shoot while on horse so...
The Native Americans were quite capable at war. While Napoleonic France and nazi Germany took only a few years to conquer Europe, Europeans took centuries to conquer the first nations of the Americas.
@@SimonAshworthWood You need to educate yourself. I don't have time to do your homework for you...
Napoleon FTW
and Spain in South America U3U
I think its time to call this discussion off..... your idead and opinians are waaaaaaaaaay to far away from mine, nothing good can come out of this. Have a good day.
Neither, there has to be a way where everyone benefits man. Capitalism does 1 thing. Makes people look out for themselves and themselves only, humanity is NEVER gonna survive like that, capitalism is not only destroying our planet, it's poisoning the minds of everybody on it. And think about it, communism wasnt that bad, just the people who enforced it were (Stalin, etc). There are more ways to go than just capitalism / communism, things can change and things will... one day, we wont see it :(
Regular capitalism killed, and continues to kill, 20 million people each year. In 5 years, regular capitalism kills as many people as "Communism" (state capitalism) killed from 1917 to today.
ruclips.net/video/QnIsdVaCnUE/видео.html
@cecevans
he Spaniards found no horses in Mexico, Central America or Peru, and from that they deduced that there were no horses on the American continent. However, Sir Francis Drake, visiting the west coast of North America, saw “large bands of wild horses,”
@crazygeek777 that sounds nothing like any native american accent
i dunno, i think i may have worded that wrong
Craaazy shit maaan :) (hippie!)
Anyway, how can a joke about us being on different planets be an insult???
@MrLila36 sioux = plains nations i think
@crazygeek777 it def. is
I mean as playable. Maybe I shouldn't have insulted Indians.
I much prefer the Napoleonic campaign, I plan to stop the diaster that was Jena unt Austerdadt, bring down Napoleon, and raise the Prussian Eagle over Paris, returning France back to the Monarchy.
@SuperKingJingaling no the white man would have won eventually just it would have taken more time.
good
@TalonMercenary Exactly! The natives were fighting each other long before any European set foot in the Americas.
Anyone can claim anything, but without credible evidence, you prove NOTHING.
Native Americans made limited wars, sure, but that doesn't justify the Europeans' invasion, total war and genocide in the Americas, and does not justify the continuing occupation of Native American land nor the oppression of Native Americans by the descendants of the invaders.
@jizmacdacusha gotcha