I have to drop a comment to thank you. This was the first video on RUclips that I've seen cover alternatives to trolling for kokanee. I was about to give up a little bit on targeting this species because I don't want to have to buy all new trolling gear or rent a boat just to catch fish. I can definitely canoe out and find fish, so thank you for giving me ideas on how to rig up for this gem of a species!
Hi Rod do you ever use a rubber snubber to take some force away from the fish striking? Especially for Kokanee since they have very soft mouths and you can actually pull the hook out
another awesome video, thanks rod! For this kind of fishing, i usually attach a spring bobber indicator to the tip of my ultralight spinning rod. it works very well for me
Nice video I have one issue forgive me but at 6:58 you say cooked "%%(* something you can get at the super market what is it you are saying its not clear what you are saying is your favorite. bait? Thanks
Great video Rod! I do have a question though and I hope you will answer it. Why not tie a dropshot rig vs the 3-way swivel? Seems like a lot less hassle with tangling and quicker but I have no idea how fast you can tie up! lol
Good question Troy! I have tried the dropshot rig as well. It certainly catches fish but I have found it not as effective. The leader seems to allow the bait to freely suspend a bit more, so that may be the difference. I also find that both rigs tangle up just as much. Kokanee jump and roll too much, every single fish almost always mess up your line. Thanks for watching! :)
Thanks for the reply. I can see your point with the bait given freer motion. I love dropshot for smallies and recently started using it for ice fishing when the jigs are 1/16 or smaller. Very effective but I'm going to give your method a try this spring. Tight Lines!
When I went to the deli and asked for deli shrimp I was told to go to the sea food counter or the freezer. I asked the Sea Food counter for deli shrimp and they asked what kind of shrimp am i asking for.... The raw shrimp and what size or the cooked shrimp like cocktail shrimp. What size is the shrimp? Small, Medium, Large, Jumbo? Also are you using raw shrimp of the cooked shrimp before you put the fire cure on?
+John Vukson The deli shrimp can be found in the refrigerated in the seafood section of any supermarket. They are cooked, and small, often used in salad.
Hey Rod, great videoes as allways. Im following your chanel all the way from Denmark. You have some awesome fishing overthere in B.C. I noticed in this video that it starts to rain during your speachs. I was wondering what you uses for water protection during filming?
TroutHunter-Productions With a towel. ;) These days I pretty much just let the cameras sit in the rain and wipe every once awhile if need to so I can get the filming done. I used to be pretty paranoid about it but after cancelling filming due to rain so many times, I've just decided to not worrying about it. I've dropped more cameras in the water than having a camera dying because of rain.
When would you say kokanee start to move into streams and creeks running into lakes to spawn? Iv always wanted to catch one when their colors are vibrant
Adam Miller Kokanee, like most sockeye salmon, start spawning in September. With that said, it's not recommended to be fishing for them in spawning creeks. Spawning fish should not be harrassed, that's why no fishing is implemented in most spawning channels.
In most US states (or at least in Washington) it is illegal for you to fish salmon from a spawning creek. For other salmon, where they come into a larger river much farther from their spawn, and requiring that they have enough of a population, you can river fish. I don't know what the fish and game laws in canada are exactly, but I'm guessing they are very similar.
you should make a video of you fishing the coquitlam river for trout or pink salmon. the pink salmon go through it in late July and august. fly fishing works really good there. please use this suggestion. there is wild and hatchery trout ant there is rainbow trout and cutthroat trout. so float fishing for trout with pautzkes balls o fire would work really good to. so that is a pretty good pink salmon or trout video. it would be really interesting.
Appreciate the tips! I'm going to be trolling on a little Colorado XT I just got last weekend. I'm hoping to land them that way. However, some times Lake Chelan can get pretty big waves going 3' last weekend and it was tossing me every where. This gives me option 2 if that happens again! Thanks!
You don't want to anchor from both ends of the boat in big waves... you can get swamped... just anchor off the bow and the wind will keep you pointed mostly in one direction... most of the kokanee in Chelan are in pretty deep water that would be hard to anchor in... Mill Bay would be shallow enough, but is wide open to the wind... for me, 3 ft waves on Chelan means get off the water and it is wine tasting time :-)
Another great video. Do you use fish finder when you fish in the lake? If you add a float in this tactics, it should also work well, right? I once visited Lake Tahoe in NorCal, I saw people fishing kokanee in that lake. That was my first time seeing kokanee salmon.
Hi Greg, yeah I use a fish finder/sounder for this, which is actually quite important when determining success. The sounder serves a couple of purposes. I need to know what depth I am fishing at. These fish tend to school at a particular depth. In this case, 38 to 42ft is the typical depth. I also want to see fish on the sounder from time to time, so it shows me that fish are schooling and swimming through the area. Float fishing for kokanee works, but at 42ft I prefer to fish without a float so the bait is placed more accurately at the specific depth where I want it to be.
Hey rod, if I decide to use a kayak instead and NOT use an anchor, do you think i have any chances of hooking into kokanee? Is being still key to success?
justanotherbum007 That's right. In fact, the more anchors you have, the more fish you'd catch... ;) Mark Almadin Without an anchor, you'll be drifting especially on a windy day, so you won't be able to bait fish on the bottom like what is being done in this video. You can troll a fly or lure instead if you are anchor-less.
justanotherbum007 i’ve caught tons of brown trout while wind drifting in the boat with bait on the bottom, tons of rainbows and kokanee as well, i’ve caught plenty without an anchor it just takes a different approach
spence brooks Interesting. The thing is we have a family trip scheduald there in september and ive heard that bows chase the kokanee to the shore for spawn. So i was just wondering if anyone had any tips. If they don't bite i guess they dont bite Thank you for the heads up though
Anthony Jr Martinez Lots to choose from, but it depends on the time of the year and personal preferences of course. I enjoy using tubebaits on the bottom or poppers when fish are near the surface.
can you do a set of ling cod/ground fish tutorial videos? I want to see how you would catch rockfish, ling cod and other types of greenling including kelp, rock and whitespotted greenling. It would be amazing. you don't have too, just wondering.
1)Hey rod, what time is best to fish for kokanee in mid july? Im guesing morning works better for temps? I decided to take your guys' advice and bought 2 anchors lol. 2)Is a size 3/16 croc spoon too big? or will it work similar with a 1/16?
Mark Almadin They can bite anytime of the day really, it's not really an early morning fishery. The key is to find them on the sounder. If you can mark a couple of fish on it and start fishing and get a few bites, then more often than not they'll keep coming by throughout the day. 3/16oz is pretty big, but it should still pick up some fish. I've seen guys using fairly big lures and still get them that way.
wow thx rod! You've inspired the fisherman in me. I don't have a sounder so I will have to try my luck. Perhaps trying different locations might help increase my chances. :D
Mark Almadin Don't be discouraged if you don't have a sounder. I actually fished for them without one for 4 years and did reasonably well. I'd mark your anchor ropes at every 10ft so you know how deep you are fishing. Also look for boats that are catching fish. Good luck! :)
Thx for the support rod! It seems that there are lots of wake boarders and boaters today... not sure if I should feel discouraged with them being so obnoxious lol
***** Hey guys... Just a quick update despite the fellow wake boarders and boaters today... The fish seem to not be bothered at all and both my dad and I lost our fish today! In any case, that was my first time experiencing a bite despite the conditions and am quite thrilled with experiencing an actual kokanee bite. Good luck to everyone fishing! :D
Pedo Doge With fish schooling at 40+ ft deep, there really are no visual cues which can suggest where the fish are, so a fish finder/depth sounder can improve your fishing results significantly. Your only other options are to anchor near other boats which are doing well, or try spots where fish are commonly caught based on local knowledge.
BTW I really like all your videos. I have leant a lot from you. i have bean trying it copy what you do and copy all the methods you use. you are a fishing roll model for me.
Hey rod! I was just wondering where are some good local Kokanee spots because I have never caught one and I think it would be really fun to fish for them! Thanks Markus
I have to drop a comment to thank you. This was the first video on RUclips that I've seen cover alternatives to trolling for kokanee. I was about to give up a little bit on targeting this species because I don't want to have to buy all new trolling gear or rent a boat just to catch fish. I can definitely canoe out and find fish, so thank you for giving me ideas on how to rig up for this gem of a species!
Great to hear! Thanks for watching. :)
Thanks Rod. Great video, nice clear instructions and tips.
Rod you are a real idol for me
Hi Rod do you ever use a rubber snubber to take some force away from the fish striking? Especially for Kokanee since they have very soft mouths and you can actually pull the hook out
Hi Rod do you think this method of fishing would also work at some of the interior lakes like Hathaway or Sulpherios?
Any advise for Gulp crayfish. Maybe use a 3 way swivel? Lake just like that noticed the biggest trout I've got had those inside.
Here is a video tutorial on how to catch kokanee with bait.
Hey Rod, I would like to know where you are fishing in this video. Love your videos.
another awesome video, thanks rod! For this kind of fishing, i usually attach a spring bobber indicator to the tip of my ultralight spinning rod. it works very well for me
jingqk Thanks. You can certainly fish with a float, but at 40+ feet, it's difficult to adjust the float depth properly and easier to fish without one.
hey rod, a spring bobber is not a float, it's a really sensitive spring attached to your rod, usually used in ice fishing, check it out
jingqk Thanks. Yeah I think I've seen ice fishermen used it in the past.
That is a very smart idea with the two anchors. Thank you.
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching! :)
Lots of great info... Well done...Thanks
You're welcome Randy. Thanks for watching!
Nice video I have one issue forgive me but at 6:58 you say cooked "%%(* something you can get at the super market what is it you are saying its not clear what you are saying is your favorite. bait?
Thanks
Deli shrimp.
Hey I know this is an old video, but I was wondering what pound line you like to use when fishing for Kokanee?
I like to spool my small spinning reels with 10lb test PowerPro braided line (equivalent to 4lb test mono) for kokanee fishing.
Great video Rod! I do have a question though and I hope you will answer it. Why not tie a dropshot rig vs the 3-way swivel? Seems like a lot less hassle with tangling and quicker but I have no idea how fast you can tie up! lol
Good question Troy! I have tried the dropshot rig as well. It certainly catches fish but I have found it not as effective. The leader seems to allow the bait to freely suspend a bit more, so that may be the difference. I also find that both rigs tangle up just as much. Kokanee jump and roll too much, every single fish almost always mess up your line. Thanks for watching! :)
Thanks for the reply. I can see your point with the bait given freer motion. I love dropshot for smallies and recently started using it for ice fishing when the jigs are 1/16 or smaller. Very effective but I'm going to give your method a try this spring. Tight Lines!
Hi Rod what type of sounder do you have. it looks like one which is attached to a transducer as part of the package?
When I went to the deli and asked for deli shrimp I was told to go to the sea food counter or the freezer. I asked the Sea Food counter for deli shrimp and they asked what kind of shrimp am i asking for.... The raw shrimp and what size or the cooked shrimp like cocktail shrimp. What size is the shrimp? Small, Medium, Large, Jumbo? Also are you using raw shrimp of the cooked shrimp before you put the fire cure on?
+John Vukson The deli shrimp can be found in the refrigerated in the seafood section of any supermarket. They are cooked, and small, often used in salad.
ok thank you. I'll have to look again.
I wish I could go fishing with you haha :P
Nice video
HI Rod . Did you mention there heads come off if pull to hard .?
+Garnett McLay No...
+Fishing with Rod
We were going to go to that same spot been there before .
Good defined vid for Kokanee just missed hear if you said it might edit .
Hey Rod, great videoes as allways. Im following your chanel all the way from Denmark. You have some awesome fishing overthere in B.C. I noticed in this video that it starts to rain during your speachs. I was wondering what you uses for water protection during filming?
TroutHunter-Productions With a towel. ;) These days I pretty much just let the cameras sit in the rain and wipe every once awhile if need to so I can get the filming done. I used to be pretty paranoid about it but after cancelling filming due to rain so many times, I've just decided to not worrying about it. I've dropped more cameras in the water than having a camera dying because of rain.
When would you say kokanee start to move into streams and creeks running into lakes to spawn? Iv always wanted to catch one when their colors are vibrant
Adam Miller Kokanee, like most sockeye salmon, start spawning in September. With that said, it's not recommended to be fishing for them in spawning creeks. Spawning fish should not be harrassed, that's why no fishing is implemented in most spawning channels.
In most US states (or at least in Washington) it is illegal for you to fish salmon from a spawning creek. For other salmon, where they come into a larger river much farther from their spawn, and requiring that they have enough of a population, you can river fish. I don't know what the fish and game laws in canada are exactly, but I'm guessing they are very similar.
you should make a video of you fishing the coquitlam river for trout or pink salmon. the pink salmon go through it in late July and august. fly fishing works really good there. please use this suggestion. there is wild and hatchery trout ant there is rainbow trout and cutthroat trout. so float fishing for trout with pautzkes balls o fire would work really good to. so that is a pretty good pink salmon or trout video. it would be really interesting.
Appreciate the tips! I'm going to be trolling on a little Colorado XT I just got last weekend. I'm hoping to land them that way. However, some times Lake Chelan can get pretty big waves going 3' last weekend and it was tossing me every where. This gives me option 2 if that happens again! Thanks!
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
You don't want to anchor from both ends of the boat in big waves... you can get swamped... just anchor off the bow and the wind will keep you pointed mostly in one direction... most of the kokanee in Chelan are in pretty deep water that would be hard to anchor in... Mill Bay would be shallow enough, but is wide open to the wind... for me, 3 ft waves on Chelan means get off the water and it is wine tasting time :-)
Another great video. Do you use fish finder when you fish in the lake? If you add a float in this tactics, it should also work well, right? I once visited Lake Tahoe in NorCal, I saw people fishing kokanee in that lake. That was my first time seeing kokanee salmon.
Hi Greg, yeah I use a fish finder/sounder for this, which is actually quite important when determining success. The sounder serves a couple of purposes. I need to know what depth I am fishing at. These fish tend to school at a particular depth. In this case, 38 to 42ft is the typical depth. I also want to see fish on the sounder from time to time, so it shows me that fish are schooling and swimming through the area. Float fishing for kokanee works, but at 42ft I prefer to fish without a float so the bait is placed more accurately at the specific depth where I want it to be.
Hey rod, if I decide to use a kayak instead and NOT use an anchor, do you think i have any chances of hooking into kokanee? Is being still key to success?
Mark Almadin
Nope. Never. You will never catch a fish without an anchor. Ever.
justanotherbum007 That's right. In fact, the more anchors you have, the more fish you'd catch... ;)
Mark Almadin Without an anchor, you'll be drifting especially on a windy day, so you won't be able to bait fish on the bottom like what is being done in this video. You can troll a fly or lure instead if you are anchor-less.
Thx guys no wonder we couldn't catch.
justanotherbum007 i’ve caught tons of brown trout while wind drifting in the boat with bait on the bottom, tons of rainbows and kokanee as well, i’ve caught plenty without an anchor it just takes a different approach
What bait, besides shrimp, do you also recommend?
Shrimp, krill, Pautzke Bait single eggs.
So im hoping to be out fishing for rainbow and kokanne in lake okanogan come fall. any tips?
Don't fish in the fall they'll be turning red and won't bite as often early July to mid August it's the best time to fish
spence brooks Interesting. The thing is we have a family trip scheduald there in september and ive heard that bows chase the kokanee to the shore for spawn. So i was just wondering if anyone had any tips. If they don't bite i guess they dont bite
Thank you for the heads up though
you'll catch a few itll just be a little bit slow so run some gear for big trout also thats what we do
best of luck to you and your family!!
spence brooks Thank you
Can you catch these from the shore on a steep drop off?
Yep, you can if schools of kokanee travel through it. During certain time if the year, koknanee do travel into the shallow parts of the lake too.
@@FishingwithRod thanks Rod, really huge fan of your channel and website have learned a great deal from it.
Thank you John! ☺️
your welcome Rod.
Hey rod could you please make a video at minnekhada slough
Fishing with Dylan Maybe one day.
Do you know any good bass lures
Anthony Jr Martinez Lots to choose from, but it depends on the time of the year and personal preferences of course. I enjoy using tubebaits on the bottom or poppers when fish are near the surface.
Nice .
Can you use power bait?
can you do a set of ling cod/ground fish tutorial videos? I want to see how you would catch rockfish, ling cod and other types of greenling including kelp, rock and whitespotted greenling. It would be amazing. you don't have too, just wondering.
Lachlan Thistlethwaite That just might happen... ;)
1)Hey rod, what time is best to fish for kokanee in mid july? Im guesing morning works better for temps? I decided to take your guys' advice and bought 2 anchors lol.
2)Is a size 3/16 croc spoon too big? or will it work similar with a 1/16?
Mark Almadin They can bite anytime of the day really, it's not really an early morning fishery. The key is to find them on the sounder. If you can mark a couple of fish on it and start fishing and get a few bites, then more often than not they'll keep coming by throughout the day.
3/16oz is pretty big, but it should still pick up some fish. I've seen guys using fairly big lures and still get them that way.
wow thx rod! You've inspired the fisherman in me. I don't have a sounder so I will have to try my luck. Perhaps trying different locations might help increase my chances. :D
Mark Almadin Don't be discouraged if you don't have a sounder. I actually fished for them without one for 4 years and did reasonably well. I'd mark your anchor ropes at every 10ft so you know how deep you are fishing. Also look for boats that are catching fish. Good luck! :)
Thx for the support rod! It seems that there are lots of wake boarders and boaters today... not sure if I should feel discouraged with them being so obnoxious lol
***** Hey guys... Just a quick update despite the fellow wake boarders and boaters today... The fish seem to not be bothered at all and both my dad and I lost our fish today! In any case, that was my first time experiencing a bite despite the conditions and am quite thrilled with experiencing an actual kokanee bite. Good luck to everyone fishing! :D
Could this work for summer rainbows/cutties too?
It certainly can.
If you dont have a finder how else could you locate fish?
Pedo Doge With fish schooling at 40+ ft deep, there really are no visual cues which can suggest where the fish are, so a fish finder/depth sounder can improve your fishing results significantly. Your only other options are to anchor near other boats which are doing well, or try spots where fish are commonly caught based on local knowledge.
BTW I really like all your videos. I have leant a lot from you. i have bean trying it copy what you do and copy all the methods you use. you are a fishing roll model for me.
Gracey DeLuca Thanks! I appreciate the kind words, very flattering.
I fish a bank for kokanee (land locked silvers) and I cach cach my limit every time in the summer
Where where you fishing?
Just use a jig. Way faster with a line counter reel
Very informative, thank you. Oh, and is it possible to fish for kokanee from shore? Thanks.
Charles Ding 2:15
***** Just to add some more information to that. It's not impossible to catch kokanee from shore, but your success rate is a lot higher from a boat.
Hey rod! I was just wondering where are some good local Kokanee spots because I have never caught one and I think it would be really fun to fish for them!
Thanks Markus
Hi Markus, what's local? Vancouver?
Y not corn?
Corn certainly works, but my preferences are krill and deli shrimp. :)
They don't go in groups
It's called schools, not groups. And yes they do.
Hi Rod what type of sounder do you have. it looks like one which is attached to a transducer as part of the package?
Can you fly fish for them from shore?
You sure can at some lakes where shore access to deep water is available and Kokanee are travelling close to shore.
@@FishingwithRod thanks really appreciate the information,🙏 great channel.