One of the best examples of Mrs. Weasley’s love for her kids is in the Deathly Hallows book. For Ron and Harry’s 17th birthdays, she gifts them both a watch. Ron’s is brand new, while Harry’s is old and dented because it used to belong to Molly’s brother Fabian. As a younger child in a large family, Ron was always getting hand-me-downs, so getting something brand new just for him is something he’ll appreciate more. Harry has to buy most of what he has brand new because he doesn’t have family heirlooms, so being gifted something tied to the only real family he has is something he’ll appreciate more than buying one brand new.
I absolutely adore the Weasleys. Someone told me something once that I have never forgotten. "If you're ever feeling sad, down about yourself, or if you're just having a bad day, just think how excited Mr. Weasley would be to meet you." So for anyone who hasn't heard that, here you go lol.
I heard a similar phrase "if you ever feel worthless good for nothing, remember Arthur Weasley would think you are cool because you can operate the microwave"
One thing that really warmed my heart about Molly is that she sees Harry, and knows that he’s being abused and neglected. And the very first thing she says to him is “It’s not your fault. I’m not mad at you. Now, sit down and eat,” probably knowing full well that he hasn’t had a real meal in weeks.
I never fully noticed that. Such an underrated moment. I bet once he thought back on it later he realized that that was exactly what he needed to hear. She also barely knew him and yet accepted him without question and treated him like a son from day 1.
what i don´t like about the scene is that molly later does NOTHING about harry being with the dursleys. the kids tell her harry is locked in a room with bars in front of his window and molly only says they should watch it that she doesn´t put bars in front of their windows. the most unrealistic thing about the series is that a) nobody does anything to help a child that gets abused at home (neither snape, sirius nor harry) and b) even though the abuse harry suffers he turns out a well mannered, nice and good person. where would he learn how to behave that way? certainly not "at home"
@@alexanderzack3720 you can look at it from a couple different perspectives. Unfortunately, one of the most realistic things *is* that nobody did a thing to protect a child being abused and neglected, especially in the 90’s. Coming from a licensed social worker that despises the broken system I’m working in, Harry would barely have met criteria for removal, if at all. I’ve also often wondered about Harry growing up “well adjusted” but it’s also entirely possible that he developed people pleasing tendencies in order to survive. And Molly did want him out. Dumbledore however insisted that Harry stay with the Dursleys until he turned 17 specifically because of Lily’s protective charm that remained intact because Harry was in the care of her only blood relative. Molly openly criticized Dumbledore’s judgement several times, and this was one of them.
Molly is actually very gifted at charms. The clock, the dishes being washed handsfree, that's supposedly her work and not at all easy. She has her own thing, she's crafty.
Slughorn also had great hopes for her iirc, and was disappointed that she "wasted her potential" by getting married and raising a bunch of kids. The way she defeats Bellatrix suggests that she certainly is good at spellcasting or at least has a serious amount of "magical power", since Bellatrix is supposedly one of Voldemort's most dangerous followers, and has already beaten both Tonks and Sirius 1v1 unless my memory is playing tricks on me.
When she duels with Bellatrix, you see another side to her. To the kids, she's simply mom. And that's all she wants to be to them. But she is much, much more.
Yeah, but kids don't notice that. They take those kinda things for granted most of the time, especially with an overbearing and caring mother who prioritises her family over anything else. If there's a certain style in upbringing, kids won't know any better. Just like Draco thinks his family is alright and probably felt weak for not living up to their expectations and being taken off guard when he's met with life-saving kindness by Harry in the room of requirement. Only then does he realise there are other ways and it changes him as a person. I'm not entirely sure about Dudley, but I felt (based on the deleted scene) that he went to something similar with telling Harry he doesn't consider him a waste of space.
As a Brit I feel the need to say that Julie Walters is a national treasure. The cast of Harry Potter had so many iconic casting choices and sometimes it's like she gets overlooked. Julie Walters embodied that role so well she was the glue that held that family dynamic together and made it feel so real.
She is amazing.watched The Mama, -Mia movies,she is one of 2 friends,I never even recognized her she is so able to become a different character.loved hee singing,a true force of nature.
I'm an adoptee of an abusive woman, seeing Molly adopt Harry and provide so much love hit me to the core, she's one of my favorite characters in the series.
that must really suck... why adopt if she's not ready to commit to it/ how did she get through the vetting process for adoption?! anyhow, hope you had a support network outside and that you're coping well. personally mrs. weasley (as a maternal figure) is too “motherly to the point of smothering” for my liking, but i still think she's a bamf (ง'̀-'́)ง
@@300blackcats @ryetoast I'm an abuse survivor, too. There are many adoptees in my support group who deal with the presumption that adoptive parents are nicer/less abusive than biological.
@@lordfreerealestate8302 I mean for the majority of cases that's probably true, because biological parents often don't see having children as a choice and more like " Well, we should probably have one before we are too old" or "Well, we weren't careful enough and abortion is against our values " or even in the worst case " this child will save our broken marriage/relationship ".
Molly didn't have 7 children. She had 8. The moment she met Harry, even before he got with Ginny, he was her son. No questions asked. She became the motherly figure in his life. The Weasley's were his true family from day one. They all loved him. That was the one thing Harry needed more than anything. Kind, loving people who just want him in their space.
Absolutely!! Molly worried about him being alone at the train station before she even knew his name, and Fred and George were happy to help him get settled and introduce him to Ron (in the book). They all saw a kid alone and not cared for and knew what had to be done
And when she faced the Boggart (in the books) it showed her worst fear as her babies dying, and Harry was amongst them. She saw him as her baby, and he felt that motherly nature, as he realized when she hugged him he never had that feeling before, a hug from a mother
Two moments that always break my heart in the books are first, in Chamber of Secrets, when Harry is staying with the Weasleys for the summer, the strangest thing he finds is that everyone in the house seemed to like him, and the narration goes on to describe the most basic things any child should have: Mrs. Weasley offering him second helpings of food, Mr. Weasley wanting to talk to him and valuing his opinion, and everyone else simply noticing him and giving him the attention he never had; second, in Goblet of Fire, after the graveyard, when Harry is in the hospital and Mrs. Weasley hugs him tight. The line goes something like "Harry couldn't remember ever being hugged like this, as though by a mother". It makes me so emotional 😭
Yes!!! That moment in book 4 is one of my favorites. She did and said exactly the right thing. She saw immediately how much he’d been through and silently gave him the comfort and permission he needed to let go and cry if he needed to.
That last line "as though by a mother" was one of the first times a book genuinely made me cry. That line honestly got me more than the death scenes tbh it was just so heart-wrenching but also good knowing he now had Molly and the Weasleys to support him :((
That moment in book 4 really hits you in the face with how deprived of a mother's love Harry has been since his own mother died. Like, you know it, but that moment twists the knife very painfully.
One of the things that immediately endeared me to Molly in the second novel was that as soon as she learns that the Dursleys were starving Harry, there is an instant shift from anger to concern. She still reprimands her boys, still makes sure they know they were being reckless, but she also jumps straight to preparing breakfast and making sure Harry eats his fill. What an amazing, nurturing woman.
Someone somewhere pointed out that her response is textbook caring for a trauma victim. Constant reassurance, keeping warm, easy food. They didn’t show it very well in the movie but Harry had been starved for weeks by the time the boys rescued him.
When she wasn’t in Goblet of Fire, a lot of the kids wrote letters to her saying how much they missed her during filming. She was a mother to all of them on and off screen. Such a perfect casting. There’s so much commentary just on mothers throughout Harry Potter. With Lily Potter, Narcisa Malfoy, even Tonks. Honestly, could make a whole video just on that
Yessss! I always loved in the books how when he was younger, Harry focused on his dad and trying to get to know him but then when he got older he started to get to know his mom and realized how amazing she was. James was good but the more you learn about him, the more you see his shortcomings. Lily, on the other hand, the more you learn about her, the more you impressive she becomes. At the very end with the resurrection stone, Harry looks to his mom for comfort and strength to do what he needs to. It's amazing
Arthur Weasley was the kindest person in the books. He was happy to include two people into his family (Harry, Hermione), he parented his kids and them, he looked out for Harry's safety, he made sure all his children had a half-strict and half-easygoing upbringing. He taught them his values by example, his humility and acceptance of his position, his kindness towards non-Magical creatures, his sense of humour. He's the OG dad and that's why JK Rowling almost killed him off but couldn't get herself to do it completely.
@@bridi0821 I think Molly was a little insensitive and she would often forget about Ron's existence. If you pay attention, she cares more about Harry than Fred, George and Ron. OFC I don't hate her, but Arthur is a better person in my opinion.
One of my favorite things about Molly's arc is that she IS JUST A MOM. She has tons of kids and plenty to do without having some grand endeavor that she's working on on the side. We see her hobbies, she knits and cooks. It makes the moment when she pulls out her wand and starts kicking ass AND WINNING that much more impactful. She CHOSE to be "just" a mother, it doesn't make her less than she is
Yup. She could win a duel against Bellatrix - one of the most dangerous Death Eaters, her kids are smart and talented, she's running a ton of charms around the house, honestly, she's probably holding that thing together by magic. It's clear she's very capable and it's her choice to fully devote her time to her family and whoever needs her. She reminds me a lot of my grandmother. They're both amazing. And hobbies relating to home are completely valid. She doesn't need a sport...
@@Evija3000 one of the things that EVERYONE mentions when they talk about Harry's relationship with the Weasleys is the sweaters. Where did they come from? Maybe her HOBBY, the grand endeavor of taking care of her family
She is also, if I remember correctly, the younger sister of the late Fabian and Gideon Prewett, badass and powerful brothers who fought in the Order back in the day. Bellatrix did poorly by underestimating her.
One thing that I really love about the mourning scene with Fred is that even though George is devastated at the loss of his twin, his literal other half, the second he sees Ron, his baby brother, he doesn’t hesitate to hug him and comfort him, and also accept that comfort from Ron.
I always read the way he grabbed Ron as both comfort and "thank God, you're OK" - because up to that point the family didn't know where Ron was after the battle.
That’s something I love that they done in the movies, I’m sad we didn’t get how it was in the book with actually seeing Fred and die and Ron and Percy being there to witness it. But gosh this mourning scene in the movie? It’s so heartbreaking, with Ron not having seen Fred die the way he broke down seeing in the movie was so well done and heartbreaking and having George look so relieved to see him was a nice touch. Since in the book all we hear is that George is knelling by Fred’s head and Ron goes to stand with Percy and that’s it. We don’t beg much time to grief in both the book or movie but I really like what they added in the movie with just adding small things even if it’s quick
Admittedly Ron was their closest sibling after each other and having Ron share the grief with him would have helped him. Ron breaking down over Fred's body is one of the saddest moments in the movies. Rupert is a phenomenal actor.
I think something else is that in the first movie/book Molly had only met Harry briefly at the train platform. She takes the time to make him a jumper for Christmas, probably from Ron writing home about his new friend who isn’t expecting to get any presents. I think It shows how she’s taking her sons letters/feelings seriously.
My favorite scene of Molly’s love is in the books. When she is struggling to rid the Black house of the boggart and the boggart just keeps transforming into different family members dying. Most people’s biggest fear is darkness or bugs or something crazy. This just shows that Molly’s family is always on her mind.
I was looking for this comment. It broke my little heart to read and understand intrinsically that fear. I almost lost my little sister when we were kids. And when I was in the waiting room of the children's hospital alone. Our parents both in the room with her. It was my first brush with truly pleading for divine intervention. I would have traded anything for her to be okay. And it's been about 23 years since....it still is one of my biggest fears. Molly became my favorite character in the whole series when I read that scene. A woman whose deepest darkest fear was losing those who she loved so deeply. For any child who grows up unloved by their parents. Or in a broken home...Molly is that pinnacle of what could be. Arthur too...technically. But she's the mom you want. The one who love is deep, unconditional, and present in everything she says and does.
Absolutely agree! What I found heartwarming about this was that Harry belonged to her family too, the last thing she saw the boggart turn into was Harry's dead body. She adopted him and loved him as if she really was his mother :)
She also saw the twins dead together, if I remember rightly. So, even in their mother's worst fears, she never thought they would be without each other.
The Weasleys are a perfect example of an often chaotic, but overall happy family. Molly is the ultimate mama bear, strict and fierce but also loving and warm. She practically takes Harry in as an adopted son without him even asking her to. Arthur is more of a goofball and doesn’t care about his family’s blood status, but he is still loving and supportive of his family’s choices. There is the issue with Percy, but I do admire how they address how politics can affect families. The Weasleys face prejudice because of their poverty and love for Muggles but they’re still amazing because in the end they come together as a family
I think Percy is a great addition to the family, he was always the outcast, always made fun of by his brothers for being smart and “perfect”. When he gets a good job at the ministry he is told it’s just to get information on his family. It’s true, but that must have hurt. Then, when he’s proven to be wrong he doubles down, obviously out of embarrassment. He probably feels like he can’t go to the family at that point. But when I matters, he goes back to them, supports them, admits his faults and is warmly welcomed. It seems like a very real family dynamic, which is wild because it’s all meshed in with witches and wizards and the dark arts.
Dumbledore : "yeah I'm giving baby Harry to his abusive family, if he gets raised into the wizzarding world in a loving wizzard family he will probably become an arrogant prick." The Weasleys : "Are we a joke to you ??"
@@arona6692 If you follow SuperCarlinBrothers they will explain why Dumbledore left Harry at the Dursley’s. Yes there’s the case of the Trace and Harry being protected after Petunia agrees to take him in but there’s more to why Dumbledore wanted him to grow up away from the wizarding world
One of my favorite things about Molly vs. Bellatrix was the realization that Molly and Arthur have produced SEVEN extraordinary wizards. There isn't a single Weasley kid that doesn't have some sort of hella wizard strength. I feel like we go the whole series thinking about those kids and how neat they all are, and then right at the end we get reminded that their talents weren't just random luck. When I first read this part of the book, it struck me that I'd never thought about who Molly and Arthur were before they were parents. All of a sudden I'm wondering how powerful you have to be to create an entire clan of strong wizards, what life would have looked like for them if they hadn't been so family-oriented. It emphasized the idea that they could have done other things, but they *chose* to center their lives around their family.
My favorite thing about that duel was that it really drove home the importance of a mother's love and the lengths she'd go to to make sure her children were protected. Throughout the books, Molly is portrayed as this loving mom who is busy raising a family on what little income Arthur brings in, but then in the Battle of Hogwarts when she sees Ginny is in danger, she doesn't hesitate at all when it comes to facing one of Voldemort's best fighters, because the only thing that she cares about in that moment is making sure that her daughter is unharmed
@@NYChica23 I mean, yeah, it did, but I kind of feel like the whole series did that with Harry and Lily and all. We saw Molly exclusively as a mother/wife until that moment. Unlike Arthur, she had no other vocation or hobby. We know she reads and knits, but friends? Passions? Interests? Accomplishments? She's basically just been a homemaker, a super incredible one, this whole series. I like this moment because it's like WHAM! By the way, Molly is also a person with a whole history of experiences we don't know about. As a parent myself, it's easy to get defined in relation to one's kids. So this was refreshing because it opened up a whole potential other life for the Weasleys, outside/before their family.
Except that filthy traitor Percy. I don't care he admitted he was wrong he still put his own selfish ambitions ahead of his family and was more than happy to toss Harry aside despite knowing the kind of person he was for years. And it's his fault Fred is dead. If hadn't decided to make a funny, Fred wouldn't have gotten distracted.
Un-fun fact about Fred’s death: the actor that played George actually burst into tears in this scene because it suddenly became to real for him and they paused everything and cleared the room for a bit to give “the twins” some space. They said so in an interview. It’s heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time and knowing this, the scene became even richer for me. So, if you didn’t already know that fact - here you go :)
I think that was a slightly altercated story. He also apparently wasn't getting teary enough, so they sprayed his face with eucalyptus spray to make the waterworks go. ( Not that Oliver didn't do a great job but I'm just saying lol )
Related story here, I recall a visit by the actor for Fred to my city where they told the crowd of the moment when he read the death scene in the books. It was on a bullet train in Japan and he was reeling from it when ticket collector came asking for his ticket to punch and he said “give me a second, I just found out I’m dead”
I love that scene in the book. It has so many meaningful moments where the care for Harry from a lot of people is shown. I love the Goblet of fire book apart from order of the Phoenix it's my favorite one. I feel like the love between everyone was shown more then in the movies
We know there's some sort of afterlife in Harry Potter universe, so I think it's safe to say that when it's Molly's time, she will get a very warm greeting and thank you from Lily Potter
I cried listening to that part of the book. I am so glad my husband and I started listening to them together. I think even my husband teared up a bit. He's not one that cries often.
My parents kind of kicked me out (well they moved out, I wasn't invited, said they still would help me financially while finish my studies and that promise lasted 3 months so now I have to quit college because my country doesn't help students with parents who can, anyway). My bf's mother always buy a cheap advent calendar with chocolate in it for her daughter and her (bf don't like chocolate), and this year she got me one as well and hugged me. I almost broke down in tears.
Someone once pointed out that Molly is actually an extremely skilled witch. She does wand free magic without speaking, is a strong member of the Order of the Phoenix, and is a fierce dueler. Her enchantments around the home are quite skilled too.
The house is probably one of the best indicators of how talented Molly is. She’s got a million things happening at once in a deceivingly huge space held together mostly by magic.
Got any sources for that? As I don’t believe she does any wandless magic. And as far as being a strong member is she only has the feat of beating Bellatrix that is very much out of nowhere and a very questionable decision of Rowlings part.
@@conormurphy4328 Just her holding up the whole house with wandless magic is a proof of her being capable a witch. At least for myself. If that looks meh to you that's fine.
Something I just noticed seeing the scene with Bellatrix in this video: If you look closely, when Molly's being pushed back just before she begins advancing again to beat Bellatrix, Arthur and her kids raise their wands like they're about to assist Molly before she gets her wind back. Even the little background elements show just how in tune and supportive the family are to each other
I *never* underestimated Molly's proficiency with magic. The competence with which she manages the household and sheer talent that she displays with her homely magic shows profound talent. Crouching mama bear, hidden badass.
One thing in the last movie that was really subtle with Molly is that she was washing the dishes while everyone was bringing Harry to the Burrow. Like actually standing at the sink washing them by hand because she just desperately needed SOMETHING to occupy her mind and keep her from totally giving into worry
it's also important to note that emotional turmoil makes ones magic difficult to wield with precision. (which is why snape is always preaching discipline) which i always thought was the reason why molly avoided using magic on fragile kitchenware.
I remember a part in the book where molly is trying to get rid of a boggart and she was struggling because it kept appearing as her children dead and harry also appeared as dead and it was that moment I realised just how much maternal love molly has for her children including harry
With Molly, I think that even in the movies, we're seeing a lot skewed through the Harry-cam. For Harry, she is the first maternal figure he's ever really experienced (at least within his conscious memory), so that's what he notices. She is, in fact, in the Order of the Phoenix, dealing with her fears (which are extreme; she lost her brothers in the last war), and may well be doing quite a lot while the kids are off at Hogwarts. But Harry's not going to notice it because for him, her superpower is loving him and momming him.
Harry does notice it in the books, in OotP Harry see Molly practicing against a Boogart that keeps changing into dead members of her family including Harry and Hermione
@@hostile_proffrom what I remember she wasn’t practicing. There was a boggart in a wardrobe or cabinet and either she forgot and didn’t realize. It startled her and took her off guard, she wasn’t prepared for it’s imagery. That’s why she was embarrassed, because boggarts should be fairly easy to dispel especially for a highly skilled member of the OotP, but the fear of losing her entire family is so strong because she loves them so much. Also the fact that an image of a dead Harry alongside the rest of the Weasleys was important to show how much she views Harry as if he was one of her own children. Harry sorta always knew they took him in, but seeing himself as part of Molly’s nightmare made him realize, I remember it being an important moment for him in the books.
@@fightingfaerie yes. It made him realize it wasn't just his one sided wish and that she truly cared for him the exact same way she would her children.
I was going to point this out too. Molly is very active in the Order. The Weasleys turn their home into headquarters and keep the group together after Dumbledores death. She shields her children from the realities of the war but I have no doubt she stays busy
@@hostile_prof he sees evidance of it, but he does not quite think that through to its conclusion to hung up with his own problems and being angry at everyone
Arthur's reaction to meeting Harry is so wholesome. That quick transition to "Ron has told me all about you off coarse" and then asking about the rubberduck, I think he is actually aware that that is a weird question for someone who's grown up in a muggle family and asks it partly to further take pressure of Harry and make him laugh and it works so well.
That's my favorite part about Arthur. Any time there is tension, he picks up on it easily and tries to distract them from it. Like when he's escorting Harry to his trial, he asks him to keep track of their destination so they don't miss a stop, and he has Harry help him with the Muggle Money. He also treated Harry like an adult and told him about Sirius
I love that Arthur can be having a full on conversation and has so many kids running around that it takes him a good couple of minutes to even notice Harry is there. It gets me every time. Also, I have always admired how Molly and most all the Weasleys just treat him like another kid. They never treat him like "different" or "special" because at the end of the day, Harry never asked to be famous and have everyone know him, it just happened. I think that Molly sees that and just treats him like a regular person and lets him be a kid as much as she can in a world that is paying a lot of attention him.
I love the look on George's face when Ron comes in and he grabs him in a fierce hug. In spite of Fred's loss, the immense relief and love when he sees that Ron is alive is wonderful. Oliver really nailed that moment.
The thing I love most about the Howler seen is. At first the kids are all making fun of Ron "Ha, Ha Weasley got a Howler" but when they hear her screaming at him they all go dead silent like "Oh no I'm In trouble, I better apologize to her too." Even though she isn't their mother. Even Malfoy starts to have this look of sympathy towards Ron by the end of it.
I like that Molly is “just a mum”. There are so many aspiring women in the wizarding world, so many possibilities but she focuses on her children and her home. We see Molly through the eyes of the children and we don’t know what she is doing when they are in school. She probably does her stuff but when those kids walk in the door (whom she doesn’t see most of the year) her attention is all on them. She reminds me so much of my mother in law.
I love how you singled out the Molly/Bellatrix duel as one scene that could’ve been done a little better. And Alan (I presume others in the comments have already pointed this out, but w/e), what you describe as Molly-the-Terminator is literally what happens in the book: Molly sees Bellatrix’s curse miss Ginny by an inch and instantly barrels forth, knocking everyone out of her way, and launches into an absolutely merciless assault on Bellatrix that, if anything, puts _Bellatrix_ on her back heel; they duel hard enough the floor itself becomes hot and cracked; and Bellatrix barely gets a final taunt in before Molly’s curse hits her square in the heart, killing her. No weird little “ah-ha, I am victorious!” grin at the end, either, which I always felt was a bit inappropriate to the mood - Molly wouldn’t be rejoicing or gloating here, she’d just be worried and heartbroken and angry and relieved. The scene in the movie is fine, good even, but I do think it’s one scene that could’ve been improved if they’d just stuck line-for-line to what the book described. Much more raw.
That's the feeling I have about pretty much every scene in the whole movie series; either they change things for the worse or they copy the book word for word but get the timing and/or mood of the words/phrases/scenes wrong. I enjoyed the first movie for the visuals, but I just never could get immersed in them the way I can with the Lord of the Rings movies.
I kind of see tons of emotions in Molly's smile after she does away with Bellatrix; triumph that she protected her daughter against a strong bad guy, relief knowing Bellatrix can never hurt anyone else in her family or anywhere, and some malicious glee that she took out the woman who killed Sirius and caused Harry so much pain and who participated in the battle that killed her son Fred, causing grief to the whole family and devastating George for the rest of his life. Molly is a mother who would get those dark emotions out of herself that way so she could go back to taking care of her grieving family without those dark emotions weighing her down.
@@egekazkayas8968 The Weasleys are quite a talented family in general, magically speaking: Bill and Percy got top grades at Hogwarts(and Bill went on to raid ancient tombs with lethal magical traps), Charlie was a quidditch star and went on to wrangle dragons, Fred and George literally INVENTED new magical spells and enchanted objects, including an indoor swamp that their teacher didn't want to remove because it was such an impressive bit of magic, Ron survived more danger before graduating school than most Aurors do in their whole career, and the twins use Ginny as an example when they tell Harry that size has nothing to do with magical power. There's also hints in the books that Molly was a talented witch, although the movies don't do anything similar iirc.
My family always identified so heavily with the weasly's. There's 7 of us total, and growing up, dad would always come out to breakfast and bellow, "Morning, Weasly's!" And we would all shout back, "Morning, dad!". We came from a truly hectic but loving home, and I'll always be grateful to my parents for that.
Jon sharing about his Indian family taking him under their wing, just like Harry had with the Weasleys, is just beautiful. So glad that someone else who lost their parents was able to experience family love in the absence of their biological ones.
‘Where HAve You Been!?’ And ‘Oh really, how’d it go?’ Are my two favourite lines in the entire series. I love Molly and Arthur, the juxtaposition is comedic gold and so realistic 😂
My favorite was in Order of the Phoenix when they visit Arthur in the hospital, and he explains the doctors tried giving him this muggle treatment called "stitches". And Molly says "It sounds like you're saying you tried to sew your skin back together... but even YOU wouldn't be stupid enough..." And we never hear the rest because Harry and Hermione already know where this is going and calmly lead the other kids out of the room. So it's quiet for a bit, then they hear Molly shouting "WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'That's the general idea!?'" It's a shame that wasn't in the movie.
I have to push back on the "make Molly more than a mother and a wife" comment because quite simply... She already was in the source material. She's a member of the Order of the Phoenix and quite an active one at that! Certainly her efforts aren't as highlighted as the front fighters, but that's the nature of someone in a support role when helping with the more mundane administrative tasks. And let's not forget she is clearly an incredibly talented witch to have jobbed Bellatrix Lestrange as hard as she did.
And what is wrong with her being a professional stay at home parent? She has been successfully taking care of a very large family for over 20 yrs. That's a career.
@@lmagoddess They aren’t talking about making her have a career. They even say that being a houseparent is a full career, they just want to see more of her personality as an individual not as just a mom/wife.
@@marissam3176 but some women have the personality that Molly displays naturally; the motherly personality that loves to tend to others. That is her personality as an individual.
@@peachesandcream8753 Yes she has that personality. But that’s not all a person is. People have individual hobbies and interests. Arthur’s interest in Quidditch and Muggle culture is explicitly shared while Molly’s interests aren’t. It’s implied in the movies and only briefly mentioned in the books. While it isn’t needed to go more into her personality for the plot, I understand some people wanting more of her individual personal interests and characteristics. Mothers are more than just mothers even though being a mother is the largest role in their life. They are still individuals.
I love the Weasleys. My parents are not the most caring people. Before this movie came out, I didn’t really have a clear view of what a functioning family looks like. The love they have for their children is so clear in their actions. This may sound weird but I used a lot of what I learned from them to help me raise my own daughter. I didn’t learn anything for my parents, but the Weasley’s are so supportive and so loving Not only to their own children, but also Harry, a kid that was not their own. I am so glad y’all are doing video on them.
@@Moonwalker2923 well, if this isn't the right comment section to get it out, I don't know what is. The people that participate in this community tend to know how to, or want to learn how to be supportive and open minded. I for one am sorry you have to live in those unwelcoming circumstances. Hope you find a place you feel good to be yourself. Remember, you deserve that as much as anybody.
@@Moonwalker2923 i'm bisexuell and grew up in a islamistic family, so I understand how hard it is. It's important to be yourself. If your family don't accept you as you are, it's realy toxic and you can't be fully yourself. I never told my parents. I also not in contact with them anymore. They were really toxic. If your parents don't accept and Love you like you are, you should think seriosly why are you still in contact with them. Because family means accepting, Loving and supporting your family like they are. Please don't forget, you don't own your parents anything. It was their choice to get you and they own you Love, acceptance and support for your whole life. Of course you can be thankfull, but it doesn't mean you own them anything. It's sounds like you are young and still living with your parents. If you don't trust your family, hide it. You know your parents the best. So If you don't trust them, only tell them If you are able to life without them. Maybe it's sounds extrem, but I only can compare with my family. I probably would have had to undergo an exorcism if they found out back then.
I totally understand this. Family was for me always a "concept" that I never truely understood. TV helped a lot to find out, what kind of family I wished for myself.
@@Moonwalker2923 personally, I think "love" just means to care, to want somebody to be happy and healthy. I have no idea what that has to do with "has penis/boobs" or whatever. What others find attractive, is simply personal. To me that whole "discussion" feels like "they like chocolate and don't like strawberry! Therefore they are evil!". Just weird. As to your family, sorry to hear that you worry about such things. I can only think about what I would do, if my own family was like that. And I would probably just ask, what exactly makes it bad when for example a woman loves another woman, whats the difference if she is loved by a man or by a woman. I mean the practical stuff is probably easier in hetero couples. You know, the "push x in y" stuff. But otherwise... I mean, a mother and child should also care for each other. And there shouldn't be a difference based on "the child has penis/boobs" to the amount of care. At least thats my opinion. If your family does get violent on certain topics, I would advise to think carefully about, if you want to come out to them and about your own safety during such a discussion (phones are pretty awesome when you want to be out of reach). As Tascha K put it, you know your family best and the decision is yours of course.
The heartbreaking thing about Fred’s death is that not only did George lose his other half, but in the book, Percy made a joke for the first time in a long long time, and it made Fred laugh ( they were together during the battle) and Fred has forgiven him for being a jerk to the family. But right at that moment of forgiveness and happiness between the too, Fred dies. I also think Fred is the first to “welcome” Percy back and hug him if a remember correctly. And the fact that George asks “are you okay Freddie” a couple of scenes before Fred’s death. And it’s beautiful and so sad that Fred died laughing. He was all about laughter and fun. My favorite characters are definitely Fred and George ❤
Mine too. I loved Luna, Hermione, Dumbledore and Harry of course, but the twins always had an extra special place in my heart. They always kept me laughing through the books and didn't take anything seriously. I was so devastated when Fred died.. I still quote some of their lines to this day. "Ask me no questions and I shall tell you no lies" 🥲
Whenever I see someone with ginger hair, I always say "with hair like that, you could be a Weasley". I always intend for it as a compliment, cause the Weasley family is the best example of good people and a good family that I can think of.
I Love the Weasleys and your commentary, but I think it’s important to acknowledge that this family was the source of Ron’s insecurities. He felt he had a lot to live up to with his older brothers (e.g. he saw himself surpassing them in the mirror of erised) and there was also some neglect - his mother forgot the food or colors he liked, he got the worst hand-me-downs (George and Fred got normal dress robes from the oldest brothers but Ron got something ugly from a dead aunt). For parents with many children, I think they can get complacent thinking “oh, I know how to raise kids, I can take these shortcuts” but they forget that each kid is experiencing being a kid for the first time and they do notice when they’re treated differently or their parents put in less effort. Hell, my mom only had 2 kids, but my little brother was hurt that my mom can remember what time I was born but not him.
Love this ❤️ Something I worry about as an older sickly sibling, also makes me think of DH1 where Ron’s has the extra stress of worrying about his family while they’re on the run
I think that's kind of part of what makes them such an effective portrayal though; they seem realistic rather than an unattainable vision of family perfection. And I'd slightly challenge the language that Ron was 'neglected'; his parents are extremely busy juggling an awful lot of children, and not being able to remember your kid's favourite colour or food is hardly a crime, nor exclusive to families with lots of children. It's quite powerful to see that contrast between Ron and Harry, where Ron does sometimes feel embarrassed by his family and under pressure, but ultimately is surrounded by people who love and care for him.
@@radishraccoon3657 Totally fair - no family is perfect, but I wish CT had addressed that as well, that love and being there for each other doesn't make your family or your children immune from experiencing some pain or that you can hurt your children (though unintentionally). Jonathan and Alan particularly were viewing this from the parents' perspective - which I get, parenting is hard, and this was overall an awesome representation of parenting. It's hard to remember that the children may have a different perspective though. And I'm not at all saying that the parents were neglectful in the "abusive" sense, but if one children is repeatedly having their likes and interests forgotten when the other children are not, then their interests have been neglected and that can sting. Not a crime, not unforgivable, but that feeling of having a lot to live up to while feeling he disappeared in the sea of his brothers was a big part of Ron's character that shouldn't be overlooked.
@@TheGrownUpMillennial It can be especially hard if one sibling shares an interest with a parent, because their interest is supported and understood in a way that another sibling's hobby might not be.
The Grown Up Millenial, I see your point, but I disagree. (Just a note before, Ron does not get a dead aunt's ropes, nor in the movie or in the books. In the movie, he jokes that he looks* like her old aunt, not that that is her ropes. In the books, he complains because they buy second-hand ropes and Molly makes some changes to it to not make it as ugly, but obviously it is not what Ron would have liked). There are two parents and 7 kids so, obviously it is not as if he were an only child (both money-wise and attention-wise), but Ron is far from neglected. In fact, later on when he is made Perfect, Molly throws him a party and asks him what he wants as a reward, as Bill, Charlie and Percy also got gifts, and she gets him the new broom he wanted. The problem with Ron is that he is the 6th in a family of overachievers. Bill, Charlie and Percy were either Perfects, Headboys or sport captains, and the two oldest had great exotic important jobs in Egyp and Rumania. The twins were unique, too, ironically because they were twins and although they were good at sports, they stood out for their charisma and Ginny was the only girl. Had Ron not made friends with literally the most famous kid in their world, and with the girl at the top of his class, maybe those insecurities would have been overcome earlier. But he is very much not neglected.
For me, what gets me every time is Molly caressing both Fred and Ron simultaneously. It just really drives home her mourning one son while comforting the other, and it so beautifully done.
Just want to say, your editor is fantastic, and really puts in all the right references and jokes in all the right places. It elevates the experience so much!
Something I loved about the Mrs. Weasley scene is that they said something (in the books I think) like, 'you may not have noticed because she's usually doing domestic stuff, but Mrs. Weasley is actually an incredibly skilled/talented witch'. I loved that this moment wasn't just a parenting moment, but one that actually showed her skills outside of parenting, by really showing that she could go head to head with someone as powerful as Bellatrix and win.
Honestly yes! We also know she was hugely talented as a young witch as she's mentioned as being a member of the slug club and he only "collected" the best, brightest, or most well connected.
Your missing it. She wasn't nearly as skilled as Bellatrix. She was able to beat her bc of her intense love and protection for her children. This was right after Fred was killed and Bellatrix had just fired a killing curse at Ginny. And Molly literally screamed, "You will never harm my children again!" Its not showing her skill outside of parenting. Its showing her skill bc of her parenting.
@@csa6058 I'm not detracting from the emotion of the moment. I was just referencing canon -- around that point in the book, one of the other characters actually points out to Harry that Molly Weasley is a very skilled witch, despite that he isn't used to thinking about her in that way.
The Weasley's are great! Now I hope you guys do a discussion on Ron himself. The middle child not just in family but in his life as a whole. Charles travels, Percy was the oldest at home, the twins had each other, Ginny was the girl the parents wanted and popular in school, his best friend is the chosen one, his crush is the smartest girl of their generation, he's not particularly gifted in anything, he feels like the loser in his family, he has insecurities with living in another person's story, and feels like he contributes nothing. Yet he still fights for his friends at the end of the day. It'd be so interesting to see a discussion on how someone can still fight when feeling like they're the middle child in their own life. (In the movies they make his insecurities and shortcomings much more apparent then the books but still lol)
This is such a great idea! I've noticed that too in the books and in real life. There must be ways to cope for the middle child. The one who's always/sometimes being either "forgotten" or "love-smuggled" 😅 I know some parents who do smuggle their children with so much love. The adult child moves away. There must be a center Half-Way-Meet-Up where parents can be neither too cold or too hot. I hope Cinema Therapy sees your comment and talk about it.
@@hameley12 Yeah, as the middle one in my family I relate to Ron's insecurities hard lol. It really is like a weird limbo spot, especially when it bleeds into just life and your personality. I do hope they cover this in some way shape or form! 😂
Especially since Ron probably always felt defined by his relationships to other people, his parents’ son, siblings’ brother, Harry’s friend, Hermione’s boyfriend. He probably never felt like he was able to be his own person because everyone around him had such a massive personality
What I always found impressive from Arthur and Molly as a parenting team, is how there is no good cop/bad cop dynamic even though Molly is clearly more strict and Arthur more mellow. The kids don't fear Molly for being strict and love Arthur because he let's them get away with stuff. If needed Arthur will step in and that is when the kids know they done fucked up. And Molly showers is obvious that she is strict because she cares about THEM. Not about image, not about what anyone will think, not about cost of damaged property. Her first care is always her children and they know it.
I actually had a different take on the Molly/Bellatrix battle (side note, can we just appreciate how absolutely perfect the casting of both these characters was?). I always found that passage in the book really scary, because Molly was so unhinged and determined to kill Bellatrix. To me, it was a perfect illustration of how devastating war is, when it makes a murderer of even the kindest and most loving people
I share the same feelings. Although the reason that Molly killed Bellatrix was to protect Ginny, it still terrified me that even someone as kind as Molly can commit murder, and everyone else just thinks that’s okay because she was trying to defend her daughter. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do the same thing under this situation, it just reminds me that war is so cruel that can change almost every person.
Yes its really poignant in the books because at that point they were incapacitating enemies not killing them but harry realises they were both fighting to kill and its like they’re both at another level
And yet Molly also says things like, "That's the whole family" (became prefects, methinks it was) and leaves out Fred and George. ("What are Fred and I, next door neighbors?") ("Call yourself our mother, woman?") The Weasleys are apparently actually a *very* interesting mix of functional *and* dysfunctional, but that's...not really being brought forward very much in these comments, for some reason. Did everyone forget by now what the Weasleys were/are *really* like? 🤔 I mean, they're nice and they're fun and they're (usually most of them) tender-hearted enough, yes, but they're actually *not* the most sensitive family on the planet. They forget a lot of the little nuances sometimes. Nothing wrong with that but it does bear mentioning. And as far as the subtle differences between twins. It's generally a lot more obvious when you actually live with them. From what I've heard, anyway. Never actually lived with any but that's what I've gathered from other people who have.
@@KittyStarlight, well, those "little nuances being left out" is actually a part of such a big and healthy family. It's not about being dysfunctional in any way, because there's a bond strong enough for each family member to be felt and seen. They "forget" and/or say "insults" about e/o, because they also feel safe. They know, that if they will say "And you call yourself our mom" then mother will understand what actually they meant, and how serious it was, and otherwise mother is also sure that kids will get what she means and does when "forgets" about them. That's what's called basically "friend's teasing", just family edition
@@KittyStarlight That "you call yourself our mother", wasn't that the case where she *did* recognize which one is which but they tried to confuse her? Like "I'm kidding, I *am* George"
@@KittyStarlight try being sensetive with 9 people screaming at eachother . . . given their situation they are doing great. no family is perfect but that they where able to offer yet another child a place of safety and love despite their situation is marvelous. People claim it is just because harry is famouse and he gets more care then her own kids, but that is plain wrong. Molly is just as harsh as is needed to real her chaos kids in and Harry simply does not need that with his miniscule sense of selfworth and constant fear of being a burden what he needs is what her kids got since birth, the irrevocable knowlage they are safe, loved and someone has their back no matter what. So she uses what little time she got to asure him he is deserving of a warm meal, hugs, having wishes and shown concern over. The fact that ron feels free to complain, that the twins can joke about it mean they feel safe. Having some trubbles, small regrets and insecurities does not make it a dysfunktional family over all, it makes them human
In the 4th book when Molly hugs Harry, after the death of Cedric, I cry every time I read it. He gets emotional as he hasn’t ever had a motherly comforting hug (that he remembers anyway) and it’s so touching.
One of my first boyfriend came from a broken family. His dad died when he was young and his mom never really took care of him. He even spent time in the foster care system. At 17 yo, he was all by himself, working two jobs to make ends meet, scraping any penny while studying during the day. He was not always eating enough or had to sleep in his car to get some rest before school after his Night Shift. My parents took him under their wings. Each time he was coming over for dinner, my mom made sure he had a ton of leftovers for the week and bought him some warm and comfy socks so he won’t be cold. My parents became substitute parents for him. Even after we broke up, he was calling my mom about how to cook a chicken in the oven or about tips on how to was a stain on his clothes. He called my dad for tips for fixing things in his home, computer stuff or on finance things. Last summer (so more than 15 years after we broke up), he reached out to my parents to thank them for helping him out when he was struggling. Now, he has a comfortable life and it’s partly due to my parents’ help. They were the parents he never had.
It wasn't quite as bad with my brother in law, but he actually disliked having to spend time with his family for various reasons. It is different with my family because he eventually figured out, that we are a family which gives instead of takes, if you get my drift.
Jonathan, I just wanted to say a quick thank you before watching the video. Back in 2018 to the month, and then again inMarch of 2019, I had an episode from a condition called TTP (Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura in case anyone reading this is curious to look it up) and it nearly killed me. TTP is a blood condition where the immune system attacks a protein in the blood that helps platelets break apart after they were no longer needed to clot. In otherwords, my blood was forming millions and millions of clots and they found millions of these micro clots in my brain. Not only had I nearly died, both times, the first time there was a VERY good chance I would come out of it with brain damage. Had I not gone to the hospital when I did, and gotten the treatment I did, I would for sure have been. I even had mental issues while going through this. I couldn't remember most words and could only say Bathroom and Birthday. Why did I think you in particular would care? Well the treatment was called plex, otherwise known as plasma exchange. What they do is remove all of the plasma from my blood, and replace it with donor plasma. I am thinking you know where I'm going with this now lol. When I saw the video where you talked about being a plasma donor, I immediately wanted to thank you. I like to take it upon myself to thank everyone I ever hear talking about donating blood as I know first hand just how important it can be to the recipient. But, when I hear people talk about donating plasma, I take the time to tell them just how much their donations help. You may not have been the person who donated to me specifically, but because you'll never know just who's life you saved, I wanted to thank you on their behalf. So thank you Jonathan. You saved "my" life. Your donation is greatly valued as are you. ♡
My daughter had that condition as a young child, luckily the doctors diagnosed it before any real harm was done. I am a regular blood donor and I have a couple of regular plasma donors in my family. I'm glad you recovered!
@@mantramoon9 please tell them thank you for me! I was born with a different condition (JIA: Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis when I was a kid but they changed Rheumatoid to Idiopathic) so I know how it feels to have a childhood disease, but I couldn't imagine going through what I did a few years ago, at that age. I also now have my own child (12yo boy) and I couldn't even begin to imagine what it's like to have a child go through that. My son had his appendix removed when he was 5, so I know that fear, but appendicitis is SO much more common than TTP. I'm so sorry you had to deal with all of that ♡. I am really glad though that it was found so early for you guys and it wasn't as bad as it could have been. I hope you never have to deal with it again.♡
I had a medical issue that stopped me from being elegable to donate anymore I donated plasma often enough i have that perminent needle mark on each arm. about a year after i was denied donations i had a MAJOR pregnancy issue (plecenta previa- i think thats the word) I was only 7 months along so no where near time and it was mothers day. I have dealt with severe IBS for yrs and the normal pain from that felt the exact same. Basicly the placenta ripped away from my uterus, most women have a small amount of this but I was told when they opened me it had been a full detatchment so both me and my daughter were bleeding out. I was lucky this one time i randomly decided to go the the ER when i got the cramps. A friend dropped me off since we all thought it was going to be an in and out thing, and him and his wife went off to do their mothers day plans. the nurse at the ER was like "are we going to have a baby" i just said "god i hope not its to early" i walked in at a pain level of 4 and within an hr i was delusional with pain and blood loss. I was told later they had to give me 2 full bags of blood. Its the only time i think i have ever needed a blood transfusion. my daughter was born at 3lb 2oz 39wks along. She is now 14.
I want to be a blood and plasma donor so bad, but I'm currently not able to, because of my ADHD medication (and weight). I understand why I can't, but it really sucks. I'm happy to hear your got the treatment you needed, and that you feel better.
Molly isn’t just a stay at home mom and wife. I think she is the glue that holds everything together. She is also a valuable member of the order of the phoenix and has just as much standing as anyone there. We really don’t know what else she does in either the books or the movies. So Molly is a credible and miraculous person.
@Day But that's not what they're saying at all? You act like they condemned the idea of having a female character be a wife and mother. No, they just wanted her to be a more realised individual. She's an incredible wife and mother, yes. Does she need to have a career or "other life" as you say? No. But showing her having interests and hobbies, like they do actually mention in the books? That's what they were saying. Arthur gets to have the thing that he's passionate about as well as his family, but Molly basically just exists to be a mum. It's fine, she's a great character, and it's all from the perspective of Harry anyway so it does make sense. But she's a lot more one dimensional than she could have been?
@Day Good to know that you barely read my comment at all to make yours c: always a good start. They never mention the charms in the film, that's what I said. In the films, she has nothing for herself. Interests and career etc can intersect, and that's fine. Hobbies and parenting can intersect, that's fine. But book Molly has so much more to her than film Molly because all they did was make her "the mum" character.
The Weasleys are my absolute favorite fictional family. And I was fortunate enough to grow up in a real world version of the Burrow. Everything Jono said in this episode is absolutely true. Also I adore the phrase micro affections.
Thank you so much for this. The Weasleys were always such a bright spot of positivity and wholesomeness in these movies. When I watched them as a kid it always gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to see the family, even if I didn’t understand why at the time.
@@trinaq yeah. I’m honestly really happy every time I hear about someone who has a super supportive loving family like that, even if it’s something I can’t have myself. I wish everyone could experience love like that.
I had someone like Mrs. Weasley in my life. When I was in high school, a 'not great' family situation happened and I lived with one of my best friends and her family for about five years. Her mom (and the whole family honestly) took me in as their own with unconditional love. They are family to me forever.
Honestly the Weasleys are the best fictional family I’ve ever seen. I wish I was a Weasley. Also, I know someone is gonna be like “too bad they’re all redheads” lmao.
I love the phrase "micro affections"! I was telling someone a story about how when I load my twins on the school bus in the morning, I don't hand them off to the bus driver and walk away, I stand and wait outside the bus until they're settled in and wave to them when the bus drives away. I was trying to explain why it felt important to me even though it was small. If my kids are having a rough morning, or feeling clingy with me (kindergarten, so still pretty young) I wanted to make sure they could look out the window and see me there smiling and waving. I feel like these micro affections can end up feeling like a big deal to others in times of need, and I always want to be the kind of mom that is mindful of that.
Some of my strongest memories of my mum as a young child are from the bus stop. Your kids will remember and appreciate that as they get older and look back.
I can't believe Alan made me cry when he cried. I love the display of emotions. Molly Weasley is hands down my favourite character in the HP universe. Sure, the Weasley family has plenty of flaws like any family, but when Mrs Weasley showed up for Harry before the final challenge in the tournament in book 4, I cried. She took in Harry and treated him like a son, already being strained having seven children and little money. Amazing
"Molly, I'll look after your son just as you looked after mine." -Lily Dear God, I teared up on that the first time I read it. The absolute tragedy of Lily not being able to be a mum, her gratitude that such a wonderful person volunteered for the job, no questions asked, and the thought that she's returning the favour, and she can finally be a mum again, after being one to Harry for so brief a time.
It’s really nice but it’s mad to think about that Fred is basically the same age as Lily and James when they died… they’re both like 20/21 but it’s a nice thought regardless. I also like to think James, Sirius and Remus would bring Fred in as a 4th marauder and he would love that since they were all pranksters
@@clover2739 do mothers ever stop mothering their kids? I'm not saying she'd be treating him like a five year old, but he'd be there without his family, for decades. He'd need someone to look out for him.
The wide shot of the Weasley family grieving feels like a hug that incorporates the audience. I feel like it lets us grieve with them. I think if there had been too many close-ups it would make it feel like we're too close, insinuating ourselves into a family grief that we don't have the right to. But the wide shot lets us know that we're there and our grief is valid too. We may not be family but we're invited to the funeral type thing.
At one point in my life I was kindoff addicted to an online game. But my mum made every effort to remember my friends names and engage in conversation about the adventures I had on my game while she knew 0 about it (or computers at all). Which made me game at the dinner table and not in my room. I tended to become depressed easily when I was just shut in my room and that was a really important turning part for me. She didn’t make me stop a game I loved so much but instead made sure I was happy and taken care off, and not eat alone in my room with nothing but a screen in front of me.
I think it's amazing and funny that Jonno and Allan were laughing about the places the Weasley kids could be, especially because one of the options is "dentist" and wizards don't even have dentists (Hermione's parents are dentists and Slughorn, a pureblood, doesn't know anything about the profession). You just KNOW that Arthur had something to do with that.
This was the summer after first year, so maybe it was added when they heard about Ron's muggleborn friend whose parents are dentists. They did agree to meet up with them at Diagon Alley the next day.
I love what you said about putting yourself in social harm's way. My younger brother is autistic and ADHD, and he has an IEP. When he was in ninth grade, his choir teacher tried to fail him for not "participating" in class the way he wanted him to. My brother had choir as his last class of the day, his ADHD medication was wearing off, and he was hyper and wanting to pace and talk to others. The teacher could not legally fail him because of his IEP; failing an IEP student means that the _teacher_ is failing to meet the student's accommodations. This teacher also ignored my parents' emails, wouldn't come to IEP and 504 meetings, and claimed that my brother's accommodations were, in fact, working, when the simple fact that he was failing my brother on _participation points_ proved they were not. I had the same teacher, and things came to the point where it was up to me to confront my teacher during class hours about not answering my parents' emails. I _hounded_ him about it until he finally responded to my parents to get me off his back. It ended with him disliking me so much that I ended up quitting choir my senior year of high school, even though singing has always been the thing I loved most. I sacrificed my relationships with my classmates and the thing I loved for my little brother, and I will never regret any of it. ❤
I liked mostly how Molly's fight went. She strikes back immediately, and you see her shaking slightly for a moment. Works great to me as it shows her not use to the situation (and possibly a bit of fear due to her opponent), but at the same time the fact she won't back down to protect Ginny.
I think one thing we need to talk about is how Molly gave the twins so much crap for not doing well on their O.W.L.s and dropping out of school--they are SO SMART. So incredibly smart, and Molly didn't see it for the longest time because she was so focused on the traditional "book smarts".
Not to mention she kept taking away their products and throwing them out. She discouraged their dream. She kept forgetting Ron's preferences. Like how he doesn't like corn beef. She dragged on Fluer when Bill got engaged to her, and encouraged Ginny to do the same. She joked about using love potions. She tried to run Grimmauld place when it was *Sirus'* house. Sure she can be kind, but she's overbearing and a tad neglectful.
@Elizabeth Bennett everyone in my family is bitter and defects blame, taking no accountability. I have 5 siblings, yes there is a lot of love, only if we don't talk about anything. But that is realistic indeed. Though it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Also molly only has so many kids because she was obsessed with having a girl. I wonder what would happen if ginny decided she wasn't like other girls, perhaps she could have been a tom boy or gay, or trans. Would she accept a girl and be happy if one of her boys came out as one? I have so many questions. Molly reminds me so much of my mom, except she didn't get physical like my mom did sometimes. I don't think Molly realizes how neglectful she can be, she seems like the type to deny problems with her kids if it's not putting them in literal danger. I'm always skeptical of wholesome big families in the media for this reason, because of my own experiences with my family. Ginny is literally her golden child that can do no wrong because she's a cis girl that Molly can dress up and do girl stuff with, that has always been a disheartening aspect of their family to me. I always felt bad for Ron because he was so obviously mistreated as the youngest son, something I could relate to. I love Molly, but I wouldn't want her as my mom, because I know she couldn't accept me for who I am, despite being born a girl.
@@GuyIllusion That’s a good point, I hadn’t thought of that (ginny being her favorite bc she’s a cis girl). I’m a trans guy (trans hp fans with conflicted feelings bc of the author unite!), and I feel like Molly is the type to not really understand and be quite awkward about it, but eventually accept once she realizes her children are happy.
There is a scene in The Goblet of Fire in the end of the book. Harry is in the Hospital wing and Molly gives him a warm hug and it is described as the first time Harry gets a from a parent figure. It brings me to tears EVERY TIME (yes, I re-read them a-lot). Molly does really love and care for Harry as if he was her own son. And the fact that she opens her heart, her home and bring him into the family, is just so beautiful. I love the Weasly’s ❤️
I love how like Molly is reprimanding her children but sees Harry, and if I recall, is aware of his abused orphan background… just one beat passes before she turns so like warm & gentle with him “oh I don’t blame you Harry dear”
Yeah, she taught him how to get onto the platform in the first book/film. It’s rather obvious he really had no one to guide him to it, so when he vaguely asked for help, she was more than happy to. Ron told her a bit about him, as well, in the books. That’s why he got the sweater; Ron told Molly that Harry wasn’t expecting any presents
I think in the book she also mentions to Harry that she and Arthur were going to come get him soon if they didn't hear from him. She absolutely approved of removing Harry from the dursleys, just not how her sons did it in the middle of the night 😂
The Weasleys are the family I wish I'd had growing up. My own family was toxic and emotionally abusive, so watching or reading about the Weasleys gives me a comforting taste of what I didn't have in real life. They're the best family in all of fiction to me.
I clicked on this so fast when I saw that it was about the Weasleys!!! They really are the family that Harry needed. Such a stark contrast from the family dynamics of the Dursleys.
I feel Dudley was at the beginning of a redemption arc towards the end - the tiny act of leaving a cup of tea at his door was so simple and sweet, but a big thing for Dudley who never had to share anything or empathise with anyone.
YES to microaffections! Life inevitably makes withdrawals from our contentment "bank account," but simply being kind and caring with each other (and ourselves) makes such a difference! So appreciate this heartwarming content! ❤
I'd be interested to see a character study of Harry Potter and the isolation he feels as an orphan neglected by his family. Even in the books he feels like such an outsider despite being loved by others in his life, and I do think it has loads to do with how he grew up so wholly neglected.
So true! And while I understand why they toned it down for the movies, the books have a few moments where you can understand how deep the abuse really goes. It's been rumored that JKR wanted to include physical abuse but it got scrapped in the editing, but there's bits with threats of violence by uncle Vernon, actual descriptions of how Harry was never allowed to eat as much as he wanted, Harry getting beat up by Dudley and his friends, and even aunt Petunia trying to hit him with a frying pan. I feel like even though we see some of it in the movies, it really got watered down. (Although I guess the channel is called cinema therapy, not book therapy lol so I'd totally go for a study of movie Harry)
I definitely think they are a super loving family and they all really care about each other, but there are significant problems in their family too. Ron spent his whole life feeling super overshadowed, the boys excluded Ginny from playing sports with them to the point where she had to sneak out to the shed to secretly borrow their broomsticks, and Arthur and Molly argue a lot and keep secrets from each other (ex: Arthur secretly fixing up the car)
I was going to bring this up. There are definite healthy elements to the Weasleys, but because there is so much going on in their home, there isn't really time to check in on each kid and see how they're coping. That does leave a lot of gaps to fill in later in life.
But I honestly think that's realistic as I don't think there's any such thing as a family with no problems whatsoever. No one is capable of being a perfect parent, spouse, sibling, etc. because no one is capable of being a perfect person. If they learn from their mistakes, which I would argue that the weasleys usually do, then that is what counts. They are still better than a lot of the falsely perfect families we see that at the end of the day actually aren't that deep or connected to one another and haven't had hard conversations. It is absolutely inevitable that you are going to hurt some of the people you love and vice versa. It is absolutely inevitable that conflict is going to happen. But love still wins
Molly Weasley totally has a hobby/Interest! She knits gifts to her family ❤️ being a stay at home mom is so busy and hard on it’s own but being able to take time to make sweaters and scarves for all her children plus Harry. That’s impressive! I love that she uses her ability to nurture others with kindness and love. She gives Harry a safe place. She is one of my favorite characters.
Well that's lovely, but it's still in service to the family. I agree that it would be perfect if she had just one thing that was all her own, her own quirky hobby or obsession or something. Although I suppose she has the Lockhart books, but that's short-lived and played for laughs.
Also it is said that she was a great duelist and a more than competent witch before she got married and with kids. I mean, she beat Bellatrix and was an active member of the Order.
@@Snowshowslow A knitter will find excuses to make things for others. It can be a personal interest and a thing that benefits others, like gardeners who share what they grow.
@@azurekutella3812 That's true, I'm not hating on knitting as a hobby. But symbolically, if the goal is to show that she exists not just for others but also as a person in her own right, this works less well to show that.
The whole family is warm and inviting!!! They have 7 kids and struggled money wise but they saw Ron's friendship with Harry and Hermione and without a doubt took them in when they saw they had no one in the magic world. Its almost like they took them in to ensure they were safe while learning the ropes. It's scary being in a new world with virtually no support hermione comes in with none where as Harry is already use to being independent after years of Neglect.
Still my most favourite films I've worked on, even after all this time it just holds a special place for me. Fun Fact, Bellatrix (Helena Bonham Carter) actually fell backwards off that table when fighting with Molly, and nobody in the crew thought to shout "watch out" because I guess the performance was so good.
@@pae7672 for the last two films I had the pleasure of being on one of the many VFX teams here in London, doing Matchmove (camera tracking, layout and bodytracks) especially for the wands.
I'm a big sucker for the "found-family trope" in writing/stories and the Weasleys are a great example of it. It's the little things they do for Harry to make him feel like family (Christmas gifts that match the rest of the family, making sure that he's fed or has all his books for school) that always get me.
Something that speaks volumes about Arthur and Molly's love for their kids is how, despite chewing their younger children out for engaging in dangerous/reckless behaviour (dropping out of school being among them), bill and Charlie have chosen dangerous career paths but are supported in doing so. It goes to show that Molly and Arthur have a healthy balance between being protective and supportive. They have a good idea of what their kids can and can't handle and are there for them if and when they fall.
Gosh, I can’t express how grateful I am for this channel. From the emotional expression to the honest talks about family & loss, the comedic timing of the editing, but mostly for the lack of toxic masculinity. Watching any video on this channel whenever I’m sad is the warm hug for me. Thank you, Cinema Therapy team. ❤❤❤❤
The scene with Molly fighting Bellatrix…. I actually really like that she pulled back scared and then came back with more determination and force. It’s like she was defending her daughter. Showing just how scared a mom is inside, but then showing that a mom’s love will push through that fear and give a new determination and bravery to push past that fear and fight for the safety of her children. Made her pushing back all the more powerful and moving
It was a stunning spell Molly cast, so powerful it stopped Bellatrix’s heart. She’d already lost one son, and wasn’t going to lose her only girl so naturally “NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH!”.
There's a really lovely, if not a little dark, detail that is more obvious in the books than the movies about Mrs Weasley being able to see the signs of neglect on Harry. In the second book especially, they talk about the Dursleys starving him. When he first gets to the burrow Mrs Weasley laments how skinny he his and proceeds to feed him immediately and for the rest of his stay makes sure he has seconds, if not 3rds and 4ths... 🥰
Today happens to be the anniversary of a massive impact event that changed my family so drastically that we're still struggling to overcome it 21 years later. So, I really needed one like this today. Thank you, internet dads.
Can I just say, in the hands of a mother, that clock is amazing. In the hands of an emotionally abusive/manipulative partner, that clock is terrifying!
I don't think it's in the movies but another great moment when the Weasley's are there for Harry is at the end of the Triwizard tournament. All the champion's family's are coming and Harry expects to have no one there, but of course Molly and *edit* Bill come.
Growing up in an abusive chaotic home the Weasleys really made me feel safe. They are chaotic because there are a lot of them; lots of moving parts, but they were safe and kind to each other. I used to dream I get red hair and be part of their family. Probably why I’m still attached to red hair now lol 😂
@@TrissTess or do u remember the book A serious of Unfortunate Events . Where they lost their family although it was really scary it reminded me what the world is like some people only want to use you and some want to help but the ones who are evil always had a story and before they were nice or normal people who just went through their own thing
@@michaelpetronzio1402 Sadly this story went by me in my youth, cause I didn't speak English back then and books were expensive..But I remember the Neverending Story and Anne Rice's Interview with a Vampire..
My best friend for the last 14 years had a very absentee mother and as a result was always over at my house - while my mom was always seen as the strict, 'scary' one of all the friends' parents, she was always the one my friends and I would call for help. She'd get mad or stressed but she always showed up, she took care of my bff like she was her daughter and to this day my friend and I are both so thankful for my mom for that. She's even said my mom was more a parent to her than her own mother and it both saddened me and made me glad that I got to share my family with her
I come from a broken family. We have a lot of love for each other, but also a lot of issues. Now that I'm in my 20s and want to start a family of my own, I've been actively thinking about ways to do it right. This could not have come at a more perfect time.
I'm gonna be that intrusive person lol. There is one book on psychology that I wish I'd read before becoming a parent in my 20s. Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck. The stuff about how to talk differently to your kids in towards the back. I wish I'd known it so I could practice using different words and celebrating different things before my kiddo was born. I was definitely a dud parent before I read that thing. Best of luck!
I love how he trusted Molly to do it too, he was worried Bellatrix might overpower her but he wasn't worried molly was too weak or something to finish her off.
Every time I watch your videos and you talk about relationships and highlight healthy habits I never learned, it encourages me to try again, and gives me hope that today can be better than yesterday. I might make mistakes as a parent, but I can learn from them and do better in the future
One of Molly's best moments was in the 4th book, and it sadly did not make it into the movie. When Harry is being swallowed by his emotions of Voldemort returning, watching Cedric die, fighting for his life and seeing his parents' ghosts. Molly hugs him, and it is the very first time (that he can remember) that Harry has experienced the comfort of a mother's embrace. It's such a beautiful moment, I wish it had been included.
Alan's version of Molly & Beatrix's battle scene would have been PERFECTION. Is it possible to see Alan making mini movies for Cinema Therapy? Hearing Alan's insights about film making are always a treat and seeing how he would make scenes better would be immensely satisfying. We love the dynamic between Jonathan and Alan! My whole family watches the channel. I've been a subscriber for a long time and really enjoy the content, thanks for all the hard work everyone puts in, behind the scenes and otherwise.
I wish the movies had taken the time to show the break between Percy and his family. That was an awful situation for the Weasleys to be in. Then when he comes back in the final fight, it's really heartwarming. There is also a scene in one of the books at the end of the school year when families are coming to visit and Harry assumes he will be spending the day all alone... and the Weasleys are there and are happy to see him. Awww!
I’m just still bitter they cut Teddy Lupin from the last film in the ending! I honestly adore the Weasleys and Fred’s death honestly still gets me every time. I balled my eyes out at that scene AGAIN for the millionth time 😭 I have always wished that scene with Molly and Bellatrix was longer! She was so god same badass!!!!
@@CinemaTherapyShow ; I do not understand why they altered Pettigrew's fate in the 7th movie; because in the book the character was supposed to die by his cursed silver hand.
@@CinemaTherapyShow; That witch that was standing over Fred was supposed to be Alecto Carrow but in the book she was dead hours before Fred's death and "He" was killed by Fenrir Greyback.
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One of the best examples of Mrs. Weasley’s love for her kids is in the Deathly Hallows book. For Ron and Harry’s 17th birthdays, she gifts them both a watch. Ron’s is brand new, while Harry’s is old and dented because it used to belong to Molly’s brother Fabian. As a younger child in a large family, Ron was always getting hand-me-downs, so getting something brand new just for him is something he’ll appreciate more. Harry has to buy most of what he has brand new because he doesn’t have family heirlooms, so being gifted something tied to the only real family he has is something he’ll appreciate more than buying one brand new.
That is an *excellent* point. Such a subtle bit of worldbuilding.
No you're crying 😭
- oh I love that. I guess the implications went over my head when I read the books at like 12 but thats very sweet.
Okay I'm crying now 😭😭
100% agree. Molly gave them each exactly what they needed to feel loved and seen.
I absolutely adore the Weasleys. Someone told me something once that I have never forgotten. "If you're ever feeling sad, down about yourself, or if you're just having a bad day, just think how excited Mr. Weasley would be to meet you." So for anyone who hasn't heard that, here you go lol.
That's so lovely!
Thank you! That just gave me the warmest feeling. 😊
that’s so cute! i needed to hear something good today, thank you.
I really needed that ty 🥲
I heard a similar phrase "if you ever feel worthless good for nothing, remember Arthur Weasley would think you are cool because you can operate the microwave"
One thing that really warmed my heart about Molly is that she sees Harry, and knows that he’s being abused and neglected. And the very first thing she says to him is “It’s not your fault. I’m not mad at you. Now, sit down and eat,” probably knowing full well that he hasn’t had a real meal in weeks.
Never noticed that. That's so sweet!
im not sure if it was in the book or not but she did stopped yelling at them after the boys told molly that harry hadn't eaten in weeks.
I never fully noticed that. Such an underrated moment. I bet once he thought back on it later he realized that that was exactly what he needed to hear. She also barely knew him and yet accepted him without question and treated him like a son from day 1.
what i don´t like about the scene is that molly later does NOTHING about harry being with the dursleys. the kids tell her harry is locked in a room with bars in front of his window and molly only says they should watch it that she doesn´t put bars in front of their windows.
the most unrealistic thing about the series is that a) nobody does anything to help a child that gets abused at home (neither snape, sirius nor harry) and b) even though the abuse harry suffers he turns out a well mannered, nice and good person. where would he learn how to behave that way? certainly not "at home"
@@alexanderzack3720 you can look at it from a couple different perspectives. Unfortunately, one of the most realistic things *is* that nobody did a thing to protect a child being abused and neglected, especially in the 90’s. Coming from a licensed social worker that despises the broken system I’m working in, Harry would barely have met criteria for removal, if at all. I’ve also often wondered about Harry growing up “well adjusted” but it’s also entirely possible that he developed people pleasing tendencies in order to survive.
And Molly did want him out. Dumbledore however insisted that Harry stay with the Dursleys until he turned 17 specifically because of Lily’s protective charm that remained intact because Harry was in the care of her only blood relative. Molly openly criticized Dumbledore’s judgement several times, and this was one of them.
Molly is actually very gifted at charms. The clock, the dishes being washed handsfree, that's supposedly her work and not at all easy. She has her own thing, she's crafty.
And she’s a magical knitter! Pun intended!
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She should be knittich champion
Slughorn also had great hopes for her iirc, and was disappointed that she "wasted her potential" by getting married and raising a bunch of kids. The way she defeats Bellatrix suggests that she certainly is good at spellcasting or at least has a serious amount of "magical power", since Bellatrix is supposedly one of Voldemort's most dangerous followers, and has already beaten both Tonks and Sirius 1v1 unless my memory is playing tricks on me.
When she duels with Bellatrix, you see another side to her. To the kids, she's simply mom. And that's all she wants to be to them. But she is much, much more.
Yeah, but kids don't notice that. They take those kinda things for granted most of the time, especially with an overbearing and caring mother who prioritises her family over anything else. If there's a certain style in upbringing, kids won't know any better. Just like Draco thinks his family is alright and probably felt weak for not living up to their expectations and being taken off guard when he's met with life-saving kindness by Harry in the room of requirement. Only then does he realise there are other ways and it changes him as a person. I'm not entirely sure about Dudley, but I felt (based on the deleted scene) that he went to something similar with telling Harry he doesn't consider him a waste of space.
As a Brit I feel the need to say that Julie Walters is a national treasure. The cast of Harry Potter had so many iconic casting choices and sometimes it's like she gets overlooked. Julie Walters embodied that role so well she was the glue that held that family dynamic together and made it feel so real.
One million percent agree!
She is amazing.watched The Mama, -Mia movies,she is one of 2 friends,I never even recognized her she is so able to become a different character.loved hee singing,a true force of nature.
Whoa. Didn't even know she had a name other than Mrs. Weasley.
That's a testament to her acting though.
@@jeanettecarnell8933 "I think my soulmate is carbs."
"Nailed it."; "To the wall, baby." (12/13/2022)
@@amommalee9105 She also voiced the wood-carving witch in "Brave". (12/13/2022)
I'm an adoptee of an abusive woman, seeing Molly adopt Harry and provide so much love hit me to the core, she's one of my favorite characters in the series.
that must really suck... why adopt if she's not ready to commit to it/ how did she get through the vetting process for adoption?! anyhow, hope you had a support network outside and that you're coping well. personally mrs. weasley (as a maternal figure) is too “motherly to the point of smothering” for my liking, but i still think she's a bamf (ง'̀-'́)ง
@@300blackcats @ryetoast I'm an abuse survivor, too. There are many adoptees in my support group who deal with the presumption that adoptive parents are nicer/less abusive than biological.
Yes, she was nice to Harry. But I never liked how she treated George, Ron and Fred.
Who wouldn't love a mom like Molly?
@@lordfreerealestate8302 I mean for the majority of cases that's probably true, because biological parents often don't see having children as a choice and more like " Well, we should probably have one before we are too old" or "Well, we weren't careful enough and abortion is against our values " or even in the worst case " this child will save our broken marriage/relationship ".
My kids once told me I reminded them of Mrs. Weasley, and I consider that to be one of the best compliments I have ever received.
Love that!
My sister and me used to tell ouw mom that. I think she reacted like you :)
this compliment made me cry. I always wanted to be part of the wasley family..
That's beautiful. I said when I was pregnant I want to be like iroh to my baby because I always wished I had a wise, gentle, and loving parent.
@@palacsintakat Iroh is a wonderful character to aspire to be like! He is definitely wise and kind and compassionate.
Molly didn't have 7 children. She had 8. The moment she met Harry, even before he got with Ginny, he was her son. No questions asked. She became the motherly figure in his life. The Weasley's were his true family from day one. They all loved him. That was the one thing Harry needed more than anything. Kind, loving people who just want him in their space.
Stop, you just made me cry
Absolutely!! Molly worried about him being alone at the train station before she even knew his name, and Fred and George were happy to help him get settled and introduce him to Ron (in the book). They all saw a kid alone and not cared for and knew what had to be done
I could not say it any better
I aspire to be Molly
And when she faced the Boggart (in the books) it showed her worst fear as her babies dying, and Harry was amongst them. She saw him as her baby, and he felt that motherly nature, as he realized when she hugged him he never had that feeling before, a hug from a mother
Two moments that always break my heart in the books are first, in Chamber of Secrets, when Harry is staying with the Weasleys for the summer, the strangest thing he finds is that everyone in the house seemed to like him, and the narration goes on to describe the most basic things any child should have: Mrs. Weasley offering him second helpings of food, Mr. Weasley wanting to talk to him and valuing his opinion, and everyone else simply noticing him and giving him the attention he never had; second, in Goblet of Fire, after the graveyard, when Harry is in the hospital and Mrs. Weasley hugs him tight. The line goes something like "Harry couldn't remember ever being hugged like this, as though by a mother". It makes me so emotional 😭
Yes!!! That moment in book 4 is one of my favorites. She did and said exactly the right thing. She saw immediately how much he’d been through and silently gave him the comfort and permission he needed to let go and cry if he needed to.
That last line "as though by a mother" was one of the first times a book genuinely made me cry. That line honestly got me more than the death scenes tbh it was just so heart-wrenching but also good knowing he now had Molly and the Weasleys to support him :((
That moment in book 4 really hits you in the face with how deprived of a mother's love Harry has been since his own mother died. Like, you know it, but that moment twists the knife very painfully.
Goblet of fire was my absolute favorite.
One of the things that immediately endeared me to Molly in the second novel was that as soon as she learns that the Dursleys were starving Harry, there is an instant shift from anger to concern. She still reprimands her boys, still makes sure they know they were being reckless, but she also jumps straight to preparing breakfast and making sure Harry eats his fill. What an amazing, nurturing woman.
She also sends him more treats with the kids owls at Hogwarts.
So true!!!!!
Someone somewhere pointed out that her response is textbook caring for a trauma victim. Constant reassurance, keeping warm, easy food. They didn’t show it very well in the movie but Harry had been starved for weeks by the time the boys rescued him.
When she wasn’t in Goblet of Fire, a lot of the kids wrote letters to her saying how much they missed her during filming. She was a mother to all of them on and off screen. Such a perfect casting.
There’s so much commentary just on mothers throughout Harry Potter. With Lily Potter, Narcisa Malfoy, even Tonks. Honestly, could make a whole video just on that
Uuuufff ❤❤❤ that would be awesome! Certainly the history of this woman’s in HP movies are very interesting and great
What a great idea, I would watch the heck out of that episode.
Yessss! I always loved in the books how when he was younger, Harry focused on his dad and trying to get to know him but then when he got older he started to get to know his mom and realized how amazing she was. James was good but the more you learn about him, the more you see his shortcomings. Lily, on the other hand, the more you learn about her, the more you impressive she becomes. At the very end with the resurrection stone, Harry looks to his mom for comfort and strength to do what he needs to. It's amazing
@@michelle5784 and then he wakes up to Narcissa! There’s so much to unpack there
Yes, you should do that one! Bring a guest who's a mother!
Arthur Weasley was the kindest person in the books. He was happy to include two people into his family (Harry, Hermione), he parented his kids and them, he looked out for Harry's safety, he made sure all his children had a half-strict and half-easygoing upbringing. He taught them his values by example, his humility and acceptance of his position, his kindness towards non-Magical creatures, his sense of humour. He's the OG dad and that's why JK Rowling almost killed him off but couldn't get herself to do it completely.
arthur>>molly
@@arkia...a ummm no. Both Molly and Arthur are amazing parents
@@bridi0821 No.
Totally agree.
@@bridi0821 I think Molly was a little insensitive and she would often forget about Ron's existence. If you pay attention, she cares more about Harry than Fred, George and Ron. OFC I don't hate her, but Arthur is a better person in my opinion.
One of my favorite things about Molly's arc is that she IS JUST A MOM. She has tons of kids and plenty to do without having some grand endeavor that she's working on on the side. We see her hobbies, she knits and cooks. It makes the moment when she pulls out her wand and starts kicking ass AND WINNING that much more impactful. She CHOSE to be "just" a mother, it doesn't make her less than she is
Thank you!!!!
Yup. She could win a duel against Bellatrix - one of the most dangerous Death Eaters, her kids are smart and talented, she's running a ton of charms around the house, honestly, she's probably holding that thing together by magic. It's clear she's very capable and it's her choice to fully devote her time to her family and whoever needs her. She reminds me a lot of my grandmother. They're both amazing. And hobbies relating to home are completely valid. She doesn't need a sport...
@@Evija3000 one of the things that EVERYONE mentions when they talk about Harry's relationship with the Weasleys is the sweaters. Where did they come from? Maybe her HOBBY, the grand endeavor of taking care of her family
She is also, if I remember correctly, the younger sister of the late Fabian and Gideon Prewett, badass and powerful brothers who fought in the Order back in the day. Bellatrix did poorly by underestimating her.
Thank you, 100% agree, that was an offensive suggestion that she somehow should’ve been “more.”
One thing that I really love about the mourning scene with Fred is that even though George is devastated at the loss of his twin, his literal other half, the second he sees Ron, his baby brother, he doesn’t hesitate to hug him and comfort him, and also accept that comfort from Ron.
I always read the way he grabbed Ron as both comfort and "thank God, you're OK" - because up to that point the family didn't know where Ron was after the battle.
That’s something I love that they done in the movies, I’m sad we didn’t get how it was in the book with actually seeing Fred and die and Ron and Percy being there to witness it. But gosh this mourning scene in the movie? It’s so heartbreaking, with Ron not having seen Fred die the way he broke down seeing in the movie was so well done and heartbreaking and having George look so relieved to see him was a nice touch. Since in the book all we hear is that George is knelling by Fred’s head and Ron goes to stand with Percy and that’s it. We don’t beg much time to grief in both the book or movie but I really like what they added in the movie with just adding small things even if it’s quick
I wish the movies had included Percy's estrangement, because Fred's last moments made Percy's reconciliation that much more important.
Admittedly Ron was their closest sibling after each other and having Ron share the grief with him would have helped him. Ron breaking down over Fred's body is one of the saddest moments in the movies. Rupert is a phenomenal actor.
@@annwilson7750 Specially since Ron is always right there with Harry, who's the main target of this whole war.
I think something else is that in the first movie/book Molly had only met Harry briefly at the train platform. She takes the time to make him a jumper for Christmas, probably from Ron writing home about his new friend who isn’t expecting to get any presents. I think It shows how she’s taking her sons letters/feelings seriously.
Molly reading Ron's letters and preparing to pretty much adopt another kid
My favorite scene of Molly’s love is in the books. When she is struggling to rid the Black house of the boggart and the boggart just keeps transforming into different family members dying. Most people’s biggest fear is darkness or bugs or something crazy. This just shows that Molly’s family is always on her mind.
I absolutely relate to that bc that is my biggest fear as well. Loosing the ones I love.
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It broke my little heart to read and understand intrinsically that fear. I almost lost my little sister when we were kids. And when I was in the waiting room of the children's hospital alone.
Our parents both in the room with her.
It was my first brush with truly pleading for divine intervention.
I would have traded anything for her to be okay.
And it's been about 23 years since....it still is one of my biggest fears.
Molly became my favorite character in the whole series when I read that scene.
A woman whose deepest darkest fear was losing those who she loved so deeply.
For any child who grows up unloved by their parents. Or in a broken home...Molly is that pinnacle of what could be. Arthur too...technically. But she's the mom you want. The one who love is deep, unconditional, and present in everything she says and does.
Absolutely agree! What I found heartwarming about this was that Harry belonged to her family too, the last thing she saw the boggart turn into was Harry's dead body. She adopted him and loved him as if she really was his mother :)
Also when she starts carrying her clock around with her because she is so worried about them.
She also saw the twins dead together, if I remember rightly. So, even in their mother's worst fears, she never thought they would be without each other.
The Weasleys are a perfect example of an often chaotic, but overall happy family. Molly is the ultimate mama bear, strict and fierce but also loving and warm. She practically takes Harry in as an adopted son without him even asking her to. Arthur is more of a goofball and doesn’t care about his family’s blood status, but he is still loving and supportive of his family’s choices. There is the issue with Percy, but I do admire how they address how politics can affect families. The Weasleys face prejudice because of their poverty and love for Muggles but they’re still amazing because in the end they come together as a family
I think Percy is a great addition to the family, he was always the outcast, always made fun of by his brothers for being smart and “perfect”. When he gets a good job at the ministry he is told it’s just to get information on his family. It’s true, but that must have hurt. Then, when he’s proven to be wrong he doubles down, obviously out of embarrassment. He probably feels like he can’t go to the family at that point. But when I matters, he goes back to them, supports them, admits his faults and is warmly welcomed. It seems like a very real family dynamic, which is wild because it’s all meshed in with witches and wizards and the dark arts.
@@feliciaann721 Completely agree.
Dumbledore : "yeah I'm giving baby Harry to his abusive family, if he gets raised into the wizzarding world in a loving wizzard family he will probably become an arrogant prick."
The Weasleys : "Are we a joke to you ??"
@@arona6692 If you follow SuperCarlinBrothers they will explain why Dumbledore left Harry at the Dursley’s. Yes there’s the case of the Trace and Harry being protected after Petunia agrees to take him in but there’s more to why Dumbledore wanted him to grow up away from the wizarding world
“Not my female offspring, you female dog!”
One of my favorite things about Molly vs. Bellatrix was the realization that Molly and Arthur have produced SEVEN extraordinary wizards. There isn't a single Weasley kid that doesn't have some sort of hella wizard strength. I feel like we go the whole series thinking about those kids and how neat they all are, and then right at the end we get reminded that their talents weren't just random luck. When I first read this part of the book, it struck me that I'd never thought about who Molly and Arthur were before they were parents. All of a sudden I'm wondering how powerful you have to be to create an entire clan of strong wizards, what life would have looked like for them if they hadn't been so family-oriented. It emphasized the idea that they could have done other things, but they *chose* to center their lives around their family.
My favorite thing about that duel was that it really drove home the importance of a mother's love and the lengths she'd go to to make sure her children were protected. Throughout the books, Molly is portrayed as this loving mom who is busy raising a family on what little income Arthur brings in, but then in the Battle of Hogwarts when she sees Ginny is in danger, she doesn't hesitate at all when it comes to facing one of Voldemort's best fighters, because the only thing that she cares about in that moment is making sure that her daughter is unharmed
@@NYChica23 I mean, yeah, it did, but I kind of feel like the whole series did that with Harry and Lily and all. We saw Molly exclusively as a mother/wife until that moment. Unlike Arthur, she had no other vocation or hobby. We know she reads and knits, but friends? Passions? Interests? Accomplishments? She's basically just been a homemaker, a super incredible one, this whole series. I like this moment because it's like WHAM! By the way, Molly is also a person with a whole history of experiences we don't know about. As a parent myself, it's easy to get defined in relation to one's kids. So this was refreshing because it opened up a whole potential other life for the Weasleys, outside/before their family.
Except that filthy traitor Percy. I don't care he admitted he was wrong he still put his own selfish ambitions ahead of his family and was more than happy to toss Harry aside despite knowing the kind of person he was for years. And it's his fault Fred is dead. If hadn't decided to make a funny, Fred wouldn't have gotten distracted.
Un-fun fact about Fred’s death: the actor that played George actually burst into tears in this scene because it suddenly became to real for him and they paused everything and cleared the room for a bit to give “the twins” some space.
They said so in an interview. It’s heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time and knowing this, the scene became even richer for me. So, if you didn’t already know that fact - here you go :)
They also said that the actor who played Fred just fell asleep on set and everyone left him there to go and hey lunch so… 😂
I think that was a slightly altercated story. He also apparently wasn't getting teary enough, so they sprayed his face with eucalyptus spray to make the waterworks go. ( Not that Oliver didn't do a great job but I'm just saying lol )
Related story here, I recall a visit by the actor for Fred to my city where they told the crowd of the moment when he read the death scene in the books. It was on a bullet train in Japan and he was reeling from it when ticket collector came asking for his ticket to punch and he said “give me a second, I just found out I’m dead”
They have actually debunked this in their podcast. It's false
@@roberttrainer2963 Beautiful XD
My favorite Molly scene is in Goblet of Fire when Molly held Harry when he finally let himself cry. She held him like she would her children
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I love that scene in the book. It has so many meaningful moments where the care for Harry from a lot of people is shown. I love the Goblet of fire book apart from order of the Phoenix it's my favorite one. I feel like the love between everyone was shown more then in the movies
We know there's some sort of afterlife in Harry Potter universe, so I think it's safe to say that when it's Molly's time, she will get a very warm greeting and thank you from Lily Potter
I cried listening to that part of the book. I am so glad my husband and I started listening to them together. I think even my husband teared up a bit. He's not one that cries often.
My parents kind of kicked me out (well they moved out, I wasn't invited, said they still would help me financially while finish my studies and that promise lasted 3 months so now I have to quit college because my country doesn't help students with parents who can, anyway). My bf's mother always buy a cheap advent calendar with chocolate in it for her daughter and her (bf don't like chocolate), and this year she got me one as well and hugged me. I almost broke down in tears.
Someone once pointed out that Molly is actually an extremely skilled witch. She does wand free magic without speaking, is a strong member of the Order of the Phoenix, and is a fierce dueler. Her enchantments around the home are quite skilled too.
Plus at home - it's not just a few enchantments, it's like gazilion all running smoothly.
The house is probably one of the best indicators of how talented Molly is. She’s got a million things happening at once in a deceivingly huge space held together mostly by magic.
Got any sources for that? As I don’t believe she does any wandless magic. And as far as being a strong member is she only has the feat of beating Bellatrix that is very much out of nowhere and a very questionable decision of Rowlings part.
@@conormurphy4328 Just her holding up the whole house with wandless magic is a proof of her being capable a witch. At least for myself. If that looks meh to you that's fine.
@@mpGreen03 lol she doesn’t actually hold the house up by magic. The description of the house just says that.
Something I just noticed seeing the scene with Bellatrix in this video: If you look closely, when Molly's being pushed back just before she begins advancing again to beat Bellatrix, Arthur and her kids raise their wands like they're about to assist Molly before she gets her wind back. Even the little background elements show just how in tune and supportive the family are to each other
I *never* underestimated Molly's proficiency with magic. The competence with which she manages the household and sheer talent that she displays with her homely magic shows profound talent. Crouching mama bear, hidden badass.
@@awhartig5847 That last phrase should be on t-shirts. (12/13/2022)
One thing in the last movie that was really subtle with Molly is that she was washing the dishes while everyone was bringing Harry to the Burrow. Like actually standing at the sink washing them by hand because she just desperately needed SOMETHING to occupy her mind and keep her from totally giving into worry
it's also important to note that emotional turmoil makes ones magic difficult to wield with precision. (which is why snape is always preaching discipline) which i always thought was the reason why molly avoided using magic on fragile kitchenware.
I remember a part in the book where molly is trying to get rid of a boggart and she was struggling because it kept appearing as her children dead and harry also appeared as dead and it was that moment I realised just how much maternal love molly has for her children including harry
With Molly, I think that even in the movies, we're seeing a lot skewed through the Harry-cam. For Harry, she is the first maternal figure he's ever really experienced (at least within his conscious memory), so that's what he notices. She is, in fact, in the Order of the Phoenix, dealing with her fears (which are extreme; she lost her brothers in the last war), and may well be doing quite a lot while the kids are off at Hogwarts. But Harry's not going to notice it because for him, her superpower is loving him and momming him.
Harry does notice it in the books, in OotP Harry see Molly practicing against a Boogart that keeps changing into dead members of her family including Harry and Hermione
@@hostile_proffrom what I remember she wasn’t practicing. There was a boggart in a wardrobe or cabinet and either she forgot and didn’t realize. It startled her and took her off guard, she wasn’t prepared for it’s imagery. That’s why she was embarrassed, because boggarts should be fairly easy to dispel especially for a highly skilled member of the OotP, but the fear of losing her entire family is so strong because she loves them so much. Also the fact that an image of a dead Harry alongside the rest of the Weasleys was important to show how much she views Harry as if he was one of her own children. Harry sorta always knew they took him in, but seeing himself as part of Molly’s nightmare made him realize, I remember it being an important moment for him in the books.
@@fightingfaerie yes. It made him realize it wasn't just his one sided wish and that she truly cared for him the exact same way she would her children.
I was going to point this out too. Molly is very active in the Order. The Weasleys turn their home into headquarters and keep the group together after Dumbledores death. She shields her children from the realities of the war but I have no doubt she stays busy
@@hostile_prof he sees evidance of it, but he does not quite think that through to its conclusion to hung up with his own problems and being angry at everyone
Arthur's reaction to meeting Harry is so wholesome. That quick transition to "Ron has told me all about you off coarse" and then asking about the rubberduck, I think he is actually aware that that is a weird question for someone who's grown up in a muggle family and asks it partly to further take pressure of Harry and make him laugh and it works so well.
That's my favorite part about Arthur. Any time there is tension, he picks up on it easily and tries to distract them from it. Like when he's escorting Harry to his trial, he asks him to keep track of their destination so they don't miss a stop, and he has Harry help him with the Muggle Money. He also treated Harry like an adult and told him about Sirius
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@@akikaien6422 oh my GOD thanks! I've never seen him that way! But that makes so much sense!
I like that it seems he's happy to meet Ron's friend more than the famous Harry Potter
I love that Arthur was like "who are you?" to his kids friend. A very dad thing to say imo
I love that Arthur can be having a full on conversation and has so many kids running around that it takes him a good couple of minutes to even notice Harry is there. It gets me every time.
Also, I have always admired how Molly and most all the Weasleys just treat him like another kid. They never treat him like "different" or "special" because at the end of the day, Harry never asked to be famous and have everyone know him, it just happened. I think that Molly sees that and just treats him like a regular person and lets him be a kid as much as she can in a world that is paying a lot of attention him.
I love the look on George's face when Ron comes in and he grabs him in a fierce hug. In spite of Fred's loss, the immense relief and love when he sees that Ron is alive is wonderful. Oliver really nailed that moment.
The last Potter movie was perfect right up until Harry's death and return. It was a bit wonky after that.
The thing I love most about the Howler seen is. At first the kids are all making fun of Ron "Ha, Ha Weasley got a Howler" but when they hear her screaming at him they all go dead silent like "Oh no I'm In trouble, I better apologize to her too." Even though she isn't their mother. Even Malfoy starts to have this look of sympathy towards Ron by the end of it.
That scene is so much fun because EVERYONE winces
I like that Molly is “just a mum”. There are so many aspiring women in the wizarding world, so many possibilities but she focuses on her children and her home. We see Molly through the eyes of the children and we don’t know what she is doing when they are in school. She probably does her stuff but when those kids walk in the door (whom she doesn’t see most of the year) her attention is all on them. She reminds me so much of my mother in law.
I completely agree. ❤
I love how you singled out the Molly/Bellatrix duel as one scene that could’ve been done a little better. And Alan (I presume others in the comments have already pointed this out, but w/e), what you describe as Molly-the-Terminator is literally what happens in the book: Molly sees Bellatrix’s curse miss Ginny by an inch and instantly barrels forth, knocking everyone out of her way, and launches into an absolutely merciless assault on Bellatrix that, if anything, puts _Bellatrix_ on her back heel; they duel hard enough the floor itself becomes hot and cracked; and Bellatrix barely gets a final taunt in before Molly’s curse hits her square in the heart, killing her. No weird little “ah-ha, I am victorious!” grin at the end, either, which I always felt was a bit inappropriate to the mood - Molly wouldn’t be rejoicing or gloating here, she’d just be worried and heartbroken and angry and relieved.
The scene in the movie is fine, good even, but I do think it’s one scene that could’ve been improved if they’d just stuck line-for-line to what the book described. Much more raw.
That's the feeling I have about pretty much every scene in the whole movie series; either they change things for the worse or they copy the book word for word but get the timing and/or mood of the words/phrases/scenes wrong. I enjoyed the first movie for the visuals, but I just never could get immersed in them the way I can with the Lord of the Rings movies.
"HaRrY, dId YoU pUt YoUr NaMe In ThE gObLeT oF fIrE?!"
- Dumbledore said calmly.
I kind of see tons of emotions in Molly's smile after she does away with Bellatrix; triumph that she protected her daughter against a strong bad guy, relief knowing Bellatrix can never hurt anyone else in her family or anywhere, and some malicious glee that she took out the woman who killed Sirius and caused Harry so much pain and who participated in the battle that killed her son Fred, causing grief to the whole family and devastating George for the rest of his life. Molly is a mother who would get those dark emotions out of herself that way so she could go back to taking care of her grieving family without those dark emotions weighing her down.
It was stupid though , there should be no way Molly wins that fight.
@@egekazkayas8968 The Weasleys are quite a talented family in general, magically speaking: Bill and Percy got top grades at Hogwarts(and Bill went on to raid ancient tombs with lethal magical traps), Charlie was a quidditch star and went on to wrangle dragons, Fred and George literally INVENTED new magical spells and enchanted objects, including an indoor swamp that their teacher didn't want to remove because it was such an impressive bit of magic, Ron survived more danger before graduating school than most Aurors do in their whole career, and the twins use Ginny as an example when they tell Harry that size has nothing to do with magical power.
There's also hints in the books that Molly was a talented witch, although the movies don't do anything similar iirc.
My family always identified so heavily with the weasly's. There's 7 of us total, and growing up, dad would always come out to breakfast and bellow, "Morning, Weasly's!" And we would all shout back, "Morning, dad!". We came from a truly hectic but loving home, and I'll always be grateful to my parents for that.
Jon sharing about his Indian family taking him under their wing, just like Harry had with the Weasleys, is just beautiful. So glad that someone else who lost their parents was able to experience family love in the absence of their biological ones.
‘Where HAve You Been!?’ And ‘Oh really, how’d it go?’
Are my two favourite lines in the entire series. I love Molly and Arthur, the juxtaposition is comedic gold and so realistic 😂
My favorite was in Order of the Phoenix when they visit Arthur in the hospital, and he explains the doctors tried giving him this muggle treatment called "stitches".
And Molly says "It sounds like you're saying you tried to sew your skin back together... but even YOU wouldn't be stupid enough..."
And we never hear the rest because Harry and Hermione already know where this is going and calmly lead the other kids out of the room.
So it's quiet for a bit, then they hear Molly shouting "WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'That's the general idea!?'"
It's a shame that wasn't in the movie.
@@nrrork oh man, I love that scene in the book!
I have to push back on the "make Molly more than a mother and a wife" comment because quite simply... She already was in the source material. She's a member of the Order of the Phoenix and quite an active one at that! Certainly her efforts aren't as highlighted as the front fighters, but that's the nature of someone in a support role when helping with the more mundane administrative tasks.
And let's not forget she is clearly an incredibly talented witch to have jobbed Bellatrix Lestrange as hard as she did.
They were talking more about the movie than the books.
And what is wrong with her being a professional stay at home parent? She has been successfully taking care of a very large family for over 20 yrs. That's a career.
@@lmagoddess They aren’t talking about making her have a career. They even say that being a houseparent is a full career, they just want to see more of her personality as an individual not as just a mom/wife.
@@marissam3176 but some women have the personality that Molly displays naturally; the motherly personality that loves to tend to others. That is her personality as an individual.
@@peachesandcream8753 Yes she has that personality. But that’s not all a person is. People have individual hobbies and interests. Arthur’s interest in Quidditch and Muggle culture is explicitly shared while Molly’s interests aren’t. It’s implied in the movies and only briefly mentioned in the books. While it isn’t needed to go more into her personality for the plot, I understand some people wanting more of her individual personal interests and characteristics. Mothers are more than just mothers even though being a mother is the largest role in their life. They are still individuals.
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1. Lead with Love
2. Fun and bonding
3. Support eachothers dreams and ambitions
4. Comfort in hard times
5. Stand up for eachother
I love the Weasleys. My parents are not the most caring people. Before this movie came out, I didn’t really have a clear view of what a functioning family looks like. The love they have for their children is so clear in their actions. This may sound weird but I used a lot of what I learned from them to help me raise my own daughter. I didn’t learn anything for my parents, but the Weasley’s are so supportive and so loving Not only to their own children, but also Harry, a kid that was not their own. I am so glad y’all are doing video on them.
@@Moonwalker2923 well, if this isn't the right comment section to get it out, I don't know what is. The people that participate in this community tend to know how to, or want to learn how to be supportive and open minded. I for one am sorry you have to live in those unwelcoming circumstances. Hope you find a place you feel good to be yourself. Remember, you deserve that as much as anybody.
@@Moonwalker2923 i'm bisexuell and grew up in a islamistic family, so I understand how hard it is. It's important to be yourself. If your family don't accept you as you are, it's realy toxic and you can't be fully yourself.
I never told my parents. I also not in contact with them anymore. They were really toxic.
If your parents don't accept and Love you like you are, you should think seriosly why are you still in contact with them. Because family means accepting, Loving and supporting your family like they are.
Please don't forget, you don't own your parents anything. It was their choice to get you and they own you Love, acceptance and support for your whole life. Of course you can be thankfull, but it doesn't mean you own them anything.
It's sounds like you are young and still living with your parents. If you don't trust your family, hide it. You know your parents the best. So If you don't trust them, only tell them If you are able to life without them.
Maybe it's sounds extrem, but I only can compare with my family. I probably would have had to undergo an exorcism if they found out back then.
I totally understand this. Family was for me always a "concept" that I never truely understood. TV helped a lot to find out, what kind of family I wished for myself.
@@Moonwalker2923 personally, I think "love" just means to care, to want somebody to be happy and healthy. I have no idea what that has to do with "has penis/boobs" or whatever. What others find attractive, is simply personal. To me that whole "discussion" feels like "they like chocolate and don't like strawberry! Therefore they are evil!". Just weird. As to your family, sorry to hear that you worry about such things. I can only think about what I would do, if my own family was like that. And I would probably just ask, what exactly makes it bad when for example a woman loves another woman, whats the difference if she is loved by a man or by a woman. I mean the practical stuff is probably easier in hetero couples. You know, the "push x in y" stuff. But otherwise... I mean, a mother and child should also care for each other. And there shouldn't be a difference based on "the child has penis/boobs" to the amount of care. At least thats my opinion. If your family does get violent on certain topics, I would advise to think carefully about, if you want to come out to them and about your own safety during such a discussion (phones are pretty awesome when you want to be out of reach). As Tascha K put it, you know your family best and the decision is yours of course.
You'll do great because you are striving to be! I wish you the best in your parental efforts!
The heartbreaking thing about Fred’s death is that not only did George lose his other half, but in the book, Percy made a joke for the first time in a long long time, and it made Fred laugh ( they were together during the battle) and Fred has forgiven him for being a jerk to the family. But right at that moment of forgiveness and happiness between the too, Fred dies. I also think Fred is the first to “welcome” Percy back and hug him if a remember correctly. And the fact that George asks “are you okay Freddie” a couple of scenes before Fred’s death. And it’s beautiful and so sad that Fred died laughing. He was all about laughter and fun. My favorite characters are definitely Fred and George ❤
Mine too. I loved Luna, Hermione, Dumbledore and Harry of course, but the twins always had an extra special place in my heart. They always kept me laughing through the books and didn't take anything seriously. I was so devastated when Fred died.. I still quote some of their lines to this day. "Ask me no questions and I shall tell you no lies" 🥲
@@ksy4747 😔💕
Whenever I see someone with ginger hair, I always say "with hair like that, you could be a Weasley". I always intend for it as a compliment, cause the Weasley family is the best example of good people and a good family that I can think of.
Love that! 🧑🦰
I Love the Weasleys and your commentary, but I think it’s important to acknowledge that this family was the source of Ron’s insecurities. He felt he had a lot to live up to with his older brothers (e.g. he saw himself surpassing them in the mirror of erised) and there was also some neglect - his mother forgot the food or colors he liked, he got the worst hand-me-downs (George and Fred got normal dress robes from the oldest brothers but Ron got something ugly from a dead aunt). For parents with many children, I think they can get complacent thinking “oh, I know how to raise kids, I can take these shortcuts” but they forget that each kid is experiencing being a kid for the first time and they do notice when they’re treated differently or their parents put in less effort. Hell, my mom only had 2 kids, but my little brother was hurt that my mom can remember what time I was born but not him.
Love this ❤️ Something I worry about as an older sickly sibling, also makes me think of DH1 where Ron’s has the extra stress of worrying about his family while they’re on the run
I think that's kind of part of what makes them such an effective portrayal though; they seem realistic rather than an unattainable vision of family perfection. And I'd slightly challenge the language that Ron was 'neglected'; his parents are extremely busy juggling an awful lot of children, and not being able to remember your kid's favourite colour or food is hardly a crime, nor exclusive to families with lots of children.
It's quite powerful to see that contrast between Ron and Harry, where Ron does sometimes feel embarrassed by his family and under pressure, but ultimately is surrounded by people who love and care for him.
@@radishraccoon3657 Totally fair - no family is perfect, but I wish CT had addressed that as well, that love and being there for each other doesn't make your family or your children immune from experiencing some pain or that you can hurt your children (though unintentionally). Jonathan and Alan particularly were viewing this from the parents' perspective - which I get, parenting is hard, and this was overall an awesome representation of parenting. It's hard to remember that the children may have a different perspective though. And I'm not at all saying that the parents were neglectful in the "abusive" sense, but if one children is repeatedly having their likes and interests forgotten when the other children are not, then their interests have been neglected and that can sting. Not a crime, not unforgivable, but that feeling of having a lot to live up to while feeling he disappeared in the sea of his brothers was a big part of Ron's character that shouldn't be overlooked.
@@TheGrownUpMillennial It can be especially hard if one sibling shares an interest with a parent, because their interest is supported and understood in a way that another sibling's hobby might not be.
The Grown Up Millenial, I see your point, but I disagree. (Just a note before, Ron does not get a dead aunt's ropes, nor in the movie or in the books. In the movie, he jokes that he looks* like her old aunt, not that that is her ropes. In the books, he complains because they buy second-hand ropes and Molly makes some changes to it to not make it as ugly, but obviously it is not what Ron would have liked).
There are two parents and 7 kids so, obviously it is not as if he were an only child (both money-wise and attention-wise), but Ron is far from neglected. In fact, later on when he is made Perfect, Molly throws him a party and asks him what he wants as a reward, as Bill, Charlie and Percy also got gifts, and she gets him the new broom he wanted.
The problem with Ron is that he is the 6th in a family of overachievers. Bill, Charlie and Percy were either Perfects, Headboys or sport captains, and the two oldest had great exotic important jobs in Egyp and Rumania. The twins were unique, too, ironically because they were twins and although they were good at sports, they stood out for their charisma and Ginny was the only girl. Had Ron not made friends with literally the most famous kid in their world, and with the girl at the top of his class, maybe those insecurities would have been overcome earlier. But he is very much not neglected.
For me, what gets me every time is Molly caressing both Fred and Ron simultaneously. It just really drives home her mourning one son while comforting the other, and it so beautifully done.
Just want to say, your editor is fantastic, and really puts in all the right references and jokes in all the right places. It elevates the experience so much!
Agreed! I loved the Dwight FALSE additions 😂😂
Agreed. The "False!" corrections was perfect. ❤️
Dwight lurking in halfway and disappearing again, when Jonathan kinda saves it, really cracked me up.
I loved the appearance of Pewdiepie, and that Doctor Who reference was interesting
Even the subtitles were hilarious too
Something I loved about the Mrs. Weasley scene is that they said something (in the books I think) like, 'you may not have noticed because she's usually doing domestic stuff, but Mrs. Weasley is actually an incredibly skilled/talented witch'. I loved that this moment wasn't just a parenting moment, but one that actually showed her skills outside of parenting, by really showing that she could go head to head with someone as powerful as Bellatrix and win.
Honestly yes!
We also know she was hugely talented as a young witch as she's mentioned as being a member of the slug club and he only "collected" the best, brightest, or most well connected.
Your missing it. She wasn't nearly as skilled as Bellatrix. She was able to beat her bc of her intense love and protection for her children. This was right after Fred was killed and Bellatrix had just fired a killing curse at Ginny. And Molly literally screamed, "You will never harm my children again!"
Its not showing her skill outside of parenting. Its showing her skill bc of her parenting.
@@csa6058 I'm not detracting from the emotion of the moment. I was just referencing canon -- around that point in the book, one of the other characters actually points out to Harry that Molly Weasley is a very skilled witch, despite that he isn't used to thinking about her in that way.
The Weasley's are great! Now I hope you guys do a discussion on Ron himself. The middle child not just in family but in his life as a whole. Charles travels, Percy was the oldest at home, the twins had each other, Ginny was the girl the parents wanted and popular in school, his best friend is the chosen one, his crush is the smartest girl of their generation, he's not particularly gifted in anything, he feels like the loser in his family, he has insecurities with living in another person's story, and feels like he contributes nothing. Yet he still fights for his friends at the end of the day. It'd be so interesting to see a discussion on how someone can still fight when feeling like they're the middle child in their own life. (In the movies they make his insecurities and shortcomings much more apparent then the books but still lol)
This is such a great idea!
I've noticed that too in the books and in real life. There must be ways to cope for the middle child. The one who's always/sometimes being either "forgotten" or "love-smuggled" 😅
I know some parents who do smuggle their children with so much love. The adult child moves away. There must be a center Half-Way-Meet-Up where parents can be neither too cold or too hot. I hope Cinema Therapy sees your comment and talk about it.
psychology of a hero on ron weasley would be a badass subversion of people's expectations and it would be an amazing episode too
@@hameley12 Yeah, as the middle one in my family I relate to Ron's insecurities hard lol. It really is like a weird limbo spot, especially when it bleeds into just life and your personality. I do hope they cover this in some way shape or form! 😂
@@simdivya Agreed!
Especially since Ron probably always felt defined by his relationships to other people, his parents’ son, siblings’ brother, Harry’s friend, Hermione’s boyfriend. He probably never felt like he was able to be his own person because everyone around him had such a massive personality
What I always found impressive from Arthur and Molly as a parenting team, is how there is no good cop/bad cop dynamic even though Molly is clearly more strict and Arthur more mellow. The kids don't fear Molly for being strict and love Arthur because he let's them get away with stuff. If needed Arthur will step in and that is when the kids know they done fucked up. And Molly showers is obvious that she is strict because she cares about THEM. Not about image, not about what anyone will think, not about cost of damaged property. Her first care is always her children and they know it.
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I actually had a different take on the Molly/Bellatrix battle (side note, can we just appreciate how absolutely perfect the casting of both these characters was?). I always found that passage in the book really scary, because Molly was so unhinged and determined to kill Bellatrix. To me, it was a perfect illustration of how devastating war is, when it makes a murderer of even the kindest and most loving people
I share the same feelings. Although the reason that Molly killed Bellatrix was to protect Ginny, it still terrified me that even someone as kind as Molly can commit murder, and everyone else just thinks that’s okay because she was trying to defend her daughter. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do the same thing under this situation, it just reminds me that war is so cruel that can change almost every person.
Not to mention, Molly was also the first person to let out an actual swear word in the whole franchise
@@Ari.993 it's not murder if it's in the immediate defense of life. Period. Molly might be a killer but she's not a murderer
I see it as when you are a mother you will do anything for your children to protect them if that means killing someone so they survive so be it.
Yes its really poignant in the books because at that point they were incapacitating enemies not killing them but harry realises they were both fighting to kill and its like they’re both at another level
First off, the fact that they can tell the small differences between George and Fred proves they are a good, attentive family.
And yet Molly also says things like, "That's the whole family" (became prefects, methinks it was) and leaves out Fred and George.
("What are Fred and I, next door neighbors?")
("Call yourself our mother, woman?")
The Weasleys are apparently actually a *very* interesting mix of functional *and* dysfunctional, but that's...not really being brought forward very much in these comments, for some reason.
Did everyone forget by now what the Weasleys were/are *really* like? 🤔
I mean, they're nice and they're fun and they're (usually most of them) tender-hearted enough, yes, but they're actually *not* the most sensitive family on the planet.
They forget a lot of the little nuances sometimes.
Nothing wrong with that but it does bear mentioning.
And as far as the subtle differences between twins.
It's generally a lot more obvious when you actually live with them.
From what I've heard, anyway.
Never actually lived with any but that's what I've gathered from other people who have.
@@KittyStarlight, well, those "little nuances being left out" is actually a part of such a big and healthy family. It's not about being dysfunctional in any way, because there's a bond strong enough for each family member to be felt and seen. They "forget" and/or say "insults" about e/o, because they also feel safe. They know, that if they will say "And you call yourself our mom" then mother will understand what actually they meant, and how serious it was, and otherwise mother is also sure that kids will get what she means and does when "forgets" about them. That's what's called basically "friend's teasing", just family edition
@@KittyStarlight That "you call yourself our mother", wasn't that the case where she *did* recognize which one is which but they tried to confuse her? Like "I'm kidding, I *am* George"
@@KittyStarlight try being sensetive with 9 people screaming at eachother . . . given their situation they are doing great. no family is perfect but that they where able to offer yet another child a place of safety and love despite their situation is marvelous. People claim it is just because harry is famouse and he gets more care then her own kids, but that is plain wrong. Molly is just as harsh as is needed to real her chaos kids in and Harry simply does not need that with his miniscule sense of selfworth and constant fear of being a burden what he needs is what her kids got since birth, the irrevocable knowlage they are safe, loved and someone has their back no matter what. So she uses what little time she got to asure him he is deserving of a warm meal, hugs, having wishes and shown concern over.
The fact that ron feels free to complain, that the twins can joke about it mean they feel safe. Having some trubbles, small regrets and insecurities does not make it a dysfunktional family over all, it makes them human
@@guerney2000 yeah, it was, they where pranking her
In the 4th book when Molly hugs Harry, after the death of Cedric, I cry every time I read it. He gets emotional as he hasn’t ever had a motherly comforting hug (that he remembers anyway) and it’s so touching.
One of my first boyfriend came from a broken family. His dad died when he was young and his mom never really took care of him. He even spent time in the foster care system. At 17 yo, he was all by himself, working two jobs to make ends meet, scraping any penny while studying during the day. He was not always eating enough or had to sleep in his car to get some rest before school after his Night Shift. My parents took him under their wings. Each time he was coming over for dinner, my mom made sure he had a ton of leftovers for the week and bought him some warm and comfy socks so he won’t be cold.
My parents became substitute parents for him. Even after we broke up, he was calling my mom about how to cook a chicken in the oven or about tips on how to was a stain on his clothes. He called my dad for tips for fixing things in his home, computer stuff or on finance things.
Last summer (so more than 15 years after we broke up), he reached out to my parents to thank them for helping him out when he was struggling. Now, he has a comfortable life and it’s partly due to my parents’ help. They were the parents he never had.
That's sweet.
Anne - I am choked up.
Thats so sweet
That is beautiful. You're parents must be wonderful.
It wasn't quite as bad with my brother in law, but he actually disliked having to spend time with his family for various reasons. It is different with my family because he eventually figured out, that we are a family which gives instead of takes, if you get my drift.
Jonathan, I just wanted to say a quick thank you before watching the video.
Back in 2018 to the month, and then again inMarch of 2019, I had an episode from a condition called TTP (Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura in case anyone reading this is curious to look it up) and it nearly killed me. TTP is a blood condition where the immune system attacks a protein in the blood that helps platelets break apart after they were no longer needed to clot. In otherwords, my blood was forming millions and millions of clots and they found millions of these micro clots in my brain. Not only had I nearly died, both times, the first time there was a VERY good chance I would come out of it with brain damage. Had I not gone to the hospital when I did, and gotten the treatment I did, I would for sure have been. I even had mental issues while going through this. I couldn't remember most words and could only say Bathroom and Birthday.
Why did I think you in particular would care? Well the treatment was called plex, otherwise known as plasma exchange.
What they do is remove all of the plasma from my blood, and replace it with donor plasma. I am thinking you know where I'm going with this now lol.
When I saw the video where you talked about being a plasma donor, I immediately wanted to thank you. I like to take it upon myself to thank everyone I ever hear talking about donating blood as I know first hand just how important it can be to the recipient. But, when I hear people talk about donating plasma, I take the time to tell them just how much their donations help. You may not have been the person who donated to me specifically, but because you'll never know just who's life you saved, I wanted to thank you on their behalf.
So thank you Jonathan. You saved "my" life. Your donation is greatly valued as are you. ♡
My daughter had that condition as a young child, luckily the doctors diagnosed it before any real harm was done. I am a regular blood donor and I have a couple of regular plasma donors in my family. I'm glad you recovered!
@@mantramoon9 please tell them thank you for me! I was born with a different condition (JIA: Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis when I was a kid but they changed Rheumatoid to Idiopathic) so I know how it feels to have a childhood disease, but I couldn't imagine going through what I did a few years ago, at that age.
I also now have my own child (12yo boy) and I couldn't even begin to imagine what it's like to have a child go through that. My son had his appendix removed when he was 5, so I know that fear, but appendicitis is SO much more common than TTP. I'm so sorry you had to deal with all of that ♡.
I am really glad though that it was found so early for you guys and it wasn't as bad as it could have been. I hope you never have to deal with it again.♡
I had a medical issue that stopped me from being elegable to donate anymore I donated plasma often enough i have that perminent needle mark on each arm. about a year after i was denied donations i had a MAJOR pregnancy issue (plecenta previa- i think thats the word) I was only 7 months along so no where near time and it was mothers day. I have dealt with severe IBS for yrs and the normal pain from that felt the exact same. Basicly the placenta ripped away from my uterus, most women have a small amount of this but I was told when they opened me it had been a full detatchment so both me and my daughter were bleeding out. I was lucky this one time i randomly decided to go the the ER when i got the cramps. A friend dropped me off since we all thought it was going to be an in and out thing, and him and his wife went off to do their mothers day plans. the nurse at the ER was like "are we going to have a baby" i just said "god i hope not its to early" i walked in at a pain level of 4 and within an hr i was delusional with pain and blood loss. I was told later they had to give me 2 full bags of blood. Its the only time i think i have ever needed a blood transfusion. my daughter was born at 3lb 2oz 39wks along. She is now 14.
I want to be a blood and plasma donor so bad, but I'm currently not able to, because of my ADHD medication (and weight). I understand why I can't, but it really sucks.
I'm happy to hear your got the treatment you needed, and that you feel better.
That's amazing! I've been donating plasma almost weekly for 6 months now, but have never met someone who receives it. Hugs to you 🤗
Molly isn’t just a stay at home mom and wife. I think she is the glue that holds everything together. She is also a valuable member of the order of the phoenix and has just as much standing as anyone there. We really don’t know what else she does in either the books or the movies. So Molly is a credible and miraculous person.
@Day But that's not what they're saying at all? You act like they condemned the idea of having a female character be a wife and mother. No, they just wanted her to be a more realised individual. She's an incredible wife and mother, yes. Does she need to have a career or "other life" as you say? No. But showing her having interests and hobbies, like they do actually mention in the books? That's what they were saying. Arthur gets to have the thing that he's passionate about as well as his family, but Molly basically just exists to be a mum. It's fine, she's a great character, and it's all from the perspective of Harry anyway so it does make sense. But she's a lot more one dimensional than she could have been?
@Day Good to know that you barely read my comment at all to make yours c: always a good start. They never mention the charms in the film, that's what I said. In the films, she has nothing for herself. Interests and career etc can intersect, and that's fine. Hobbies and parenting can intersect, that's fine. But book Molly has so much more to her than film Molly because all they did was make her "the mum" character.
@Day I mean I actually read your comment, you just didn't think to do the same so your whole argument is irrelevant. But happy new year, kid.
The Weasleys are my absolute favorite fictional family. And I was fortunate enough to grow up in a real world version of the Burrow. Everything Jono said in this episode is absolutely true. Also I adore the phrase micro affections.
Thank you so much for this. The Weasleys were always such a bright spot of positivity and wholesomeness in these movies. When I watched them as a kid it always gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to see the family, even if I didn’t understand why at the time.
Precisely, we all wish that we could have a family like the Weasleys, but sadly, only a few are able to.
@@trinaq yeah. I’m honestly really happy every time I hear about someone who has a super supportive loving family like that, even if it’s something I can’t have myself. I wish everyone could experience love like that.
I had someone like Mrs. Weasley in my life. When I was in high school, a 'not great' family situation happened and I lived with one of my best friends and her family for about five years. Her mom (and the whole family honestly) took me in as their own with unconditional love. They are family to me forever.
Honestly the Weasleys are the best fictional family I’ve ever seen. I wish I was a Weasley. Also, I know someone is gonna be like “too bad they’re all redheads” lmao.
Don't worry I am sure there is a spell that can change your haircolour 😂
@@jackwriter1908 Good one.
Haha, hair colour aside, seeing a happy family in an otherwise dark series helps to bring little moments of levity, which is always welcome.
I really more tend to admire the Murrays and the O'Keefes from Madeleine L'Engle's books.
(Oh. And by the way. Some of them have red hair too. ^___^)
@@jackwriter1908 noooooo 😭
I love the phrase "micro affections"! I was telling someone a story about how when I load my twins on the school bus in the morning, I don't hand them off to the bus driver and walk away, I stand and wait outside the bus until they're settled in and wave to them when the bus drives away. I was trying to explain why it felt important to me even though it was small. If my kids are having a rough morning, or feeling clingy with me (kindergarten, so still pretty young) I wanted to make sure they could look out the window and see me there smiling and waving. I feel like these micro affections can end up feeling like a big deal to others in times of need, and I always want to be the kind of mom that is mindful of that.
Some of my strongest memories of my mum as a young child are from the bus stop. Your kids will remember and appreciate that as they get older and look back.
My Mother-In-Law always smiles and waves until we're out of sight when we leave.
I can't believe Alan made me cry when he cried. I love the display of emotions.
Molly Weasley is hands down my favourite character in the HP universe. Sure, the Weasley family has plenty of flaws like any family, but when Mrs Weasley showed up for Harry before the final challenge in the tournament in book 4, I cried. She took in Harry and treated him like a son, already being strained having seven children and little money. Amazing
"Molly, I'll look after your son just as you looked after mine."
-Lily
Dear God, I teared up on that the first time I read it. The absolute tragedy of Lily not being able to be a mum, her gratitude that such a wonderful person volunteered for the job, no questions asked, and the thought that she's returning the favour, and she can finally be a mum again, after being one to Harry for so brief a time.
where did you read that ?
Is that from a fanfic?
No, just a meme from Facebook
It’s really nice but it’s mad to think about that Fred is basically the same age as Lily and James when they died… they’re both like 20/21 but it’s a nice thought regardless. I also like to think James, Sirius and Remus would bring Fred in as a 4th marauder and he would love that since they were all pranksters
@@clover2739 do mothers ever stop mothering their kids? I'm not saying she'd be treating him like a five year old, but he'd be there without his family, for decades. He'd need someone to look out for him.
The wide shot of the Weasley family grieving feels like a hug that incorporates the audience. I feel like it lets us grieve with them. I think if there had been too many close-ups it would make it feel like we're too close, insinuating ourselves into a family grief that we don't have the right to. But the wide shot lets us know that we're there and our grief is valid too. We may not be family but we're invited to the funeral type thing.
I can’t watch any Molly Weasley scene without crying.
She’s the epitome of motherhood and everything I want to be for my kids.
At one point in my life I was kindoff addicted to an online game. But my mum made every effort to remember my friends names and engage in conversation about the adventures I had on my game while she knew 0 about it (or computers at all). Which made me game at the dinner table and not in my room. I tended to become depressed easily when I was just shut in my room and that was a really important turning part for me. She didn’t make me stop a game I loved so much but instead made sure I was happy and taken care off, and not eat alone in my room with nothing but a screen in front of me.
Great mom!
I think it's amazing and funny that Jonno and Allan were laughing about the places the Weasley kids could be, especially because one of the options is "dentist" and wizards don't even have dentists (Hermione's parents are dentists and Slughorn, a pureblood, doesn't know anything about the profession). You just KNOW that Arthur had something to do with that.
This was the summer after first year, so maybe it was added when they heard about Ron's muggleborn friend whose parents are dentists. They did agree to meet up with them at Diagon Alley the next day.
I love what you said about putting yourself in social harm's way. My younger brother is autistic and ADHD, and he has an IEP. When he was in ninth grade, his choir teacher tried to fail him for not "participating" in class the way he wanted him to. My brother had choir as his last class of the day, his ADHD medication was wearing off, and he was hyper and wanting to pace and talk to others. The teacher could not legally fail him because of his IEP; failing an IEP student means that the _teacher_ is failing to meet the student's accommodations. This teacher also ignored my parents' emails, wouldn't come to IEP and 504 meetings, and claimed that my brother's accommodations were, in fact, working, when the simple fact that he was failing my brother on _participation points_ proved they were not. I had the same teacher, and things came to the point where it was up to me to confront my teacher during class hours about not answering my parents' emails. I _hounded_ him about it until he finally responded to my parents to get me off his back. It ended with him disliking me so much that I ended up quitting choir my senior year of high school, even though singing has always been the thing I loved most. I sacrificed my relationships with my classmates and the thing I loved for my little brother, and I will never regret any of it. ❤
I liked mostly how Molly's fight went. She strikes back immediately, and you see her shaking slightly for a moment. Works great to me as it shows her not use to the situation (and possibly a bit of fear due to her opponent), but at the same time the fact she won't back down to protect Ginny.
I liked more the book version, Molly an enraged momma bear, just going full 200% before Bellatrix realises she is in actual danger
Mama Bear Mode 24/7 🐻
I think one thing we need to talk about is how Molly gave the twins so much crap for not doing well on their O.W.L.s and dropping out of school--they are SO SMART. So incredibly smart, and Molly didn't see it for the longest time because she was so focused on the traditional "book smarts".
Not to mention she kept taking away their products and throwing them out. She discouraged their dream. She kept forgetting Ron's preferences. Like how he doesn't like corn beef. She dragged on Fluer when Bill got engaged to her, and encouraged Ginny to do the same. She joked about using love potions. She tried to run Grimmauld place when it was *Sirus'* house. Sure she can be kind, but she's overbearing and a tad neglectful.
@Elizabeth Bennett everyone in my family is bitter and defects blame, taking no accountability. I have 5 siblings, yes there is a lot of love, only if we don't talk about anything. But that is realistic indeed. Though it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Also molly only has so many kids because she was obsessed with having a girl. I wonder what would happen if ginny decided she wasn't like other girls, perhaps she could have been a tom boy or gay, or trans. Would she accept a girl and be happy if one of her boys came out as one? I have so many questions. Molly reminds me so much of my mom, except she didn't get physical like my mom did sometimes. I don't think Molly realizes how neglectful she can be, she seems like the type to deny problems with her kids if it's not putting them in literal danger. I'm always skeptical of wholesome big families in the media for this reason, because of my own experiences with my family.
Ginny is literally her golden child that can do no wrong because she's a cis girl that Molly can dress up and do girl stuff with, that has always been a disheartening aspect of their family to me. I always felt bad for Ron because he was so obviously mistreated as the youngest son, something I could relate to.
I love Molly, but I wouldn't want her as my mom, because I know she couldn't accept me for who I am, despite being born a girl.
@@GuyIllusion That’s a good point, I hadn’t thought of that (ginny being her favorite bc she’s a cis girl). I’m a trans guy (trans hp fans with conflicted feelings bc of the author unite!), and I feel like Molly is the type to not really understand and be quite awkward about it, but eventually accept once she realizes her children are happy.
@@eryuu4016 I appreciate that these books prepared me to expect flawed realistic people in my life.
@@GuyIllusion this wouldn't happen sadly cause jkr is transphobic
Would make an interesting story line though I agree!
There is a scene in The Goblet of Fire in the end of the book. Harry is in the Hospital wing and Molly gives him a warm hug and it is described as the first time Harry gets a from a parent figure. It brings me to tears EVERY TIME (yes, I re-read them a-lot). Molly does really love and care for Harry as if he was her own son. And the fact that she opens her heart, her home and bring him into the family, is just so beautiful. I love the Weasly’s ❤️
I love how like Molly is reprimanding her children but sees Harry, and if I recall, is aware of his abused orphan background… just one beat passes before she turns so like warm & gentle with him “oh I don’t blame you Harry dear”
Yeah, she taught him how to get onto the platform in the first book/film. It’s rather obvious he really had no one to guide him to it, so when he vaguely asked for help, she was more than happy to. Ron told her a bit about him, as well, in the books. That’s why he got the sweater; Ron told Molly that Harry wasn’t expecting any presents
I think in the book she also mentions to Harry that she and Arthur were going to come get him soon if they didn't hear from him. She absolutely approved of removing Harry from the dursleys, just not how her sons did it in the middle of the night 😂
@@Christina-xc7on Suddenly I remember that now! And I read the books about 15 years ago
I love how the Weasleys gave Ron a new watch and Harry a second hand one. Molly so instinctively knows what her children and others need
The Weasleys are the family I wish I'd had growing up. My own family was toxic and emotionally abusive, so watching or reading about the Weasleys gives me a comforting taste of what I didn't have in real life. They're the best family in all of fiction to me.
I clicked on this so fast when I saw that it was about the Weasleys!!! They really are the family that Harry needed. Such a stark contrast from the family dynamics of the Dursleys.
I kinda want them do talk about the Dursleys (I don’t think they’ve done it yet)
I feel Dudley was at the beginning of a redemption arc towards the end - the tiny act of leaving a cup of tea at his door was so simple and sweet, but a big thing for Dudley who never had to share anything or empathise with anyone.
@@caljones yeah, for Villain Therapy, I guess.
YES to microaffections! Life inevitably makes withdrawals from our contentment "bank account," but simply being kind and caring with each other (and ourselves) makes such a difference! So appreciate this heartwarming content! ❤
I'd be interested to see a character study of Harry Potter and the isolation he feels as an orphan neglected by his family. Even in the books he feels like such an outsider despite being loved by others in his life, and I do think it has loads to do with how he grew up so wholly neglected.
So true! And while I understand why they toned it down for the movies, the books have a few moments where you can understand how deep the abuse really goes. It's been rumored that JKR wanted to include physical abuse but it got scrapped in the editing, but there's bits with threats of violence by uncle Vernon, actual descriptions of how Harry was never allowed to eat as much as he wanted, Harry getting beat up by Dudley and his friends, and even aunt Petunia trying to hit him with a frying pan. I feel like even though we see some of it in the movies, it really got watered down. (Although I guess the channel is called cinema therapy, not book therapy lol so I'd totally go for a study of movie Harry)
I definitely think they are a super loving family and they all really care about each other, but there are significant problems in their family too. Ron spent his whole life feeling super overshadowed, the boys excluded Ginny from playing sports with them to the point where she had to sneak out to the shed to secretly borrow their broomsticks, and Arthur and Molly argue a lot and keep secrets from each other (ex: Arthur secretly fixing up the car)
I was going to bring this up. There are definite healthy elements to the Weasleys, but because there is so much going on in their home, there isn't really time to check in on each kid and see how they're coping. That does leave a lot of gaps to fill in later in life.
But I honestly think that's realistic as I don't think there's any such thing as a family with no problems whatsoever. No one is capable of being a perfect parent, spouse, sibling, etc. because no one is capable of being a perfect person. If they learn from their mistakes, which I would argue that the weasleys usually do, then that is what counts. They are still better than a lot of the falsely perfect families we see that at the end of the day actually aren't that deep or connected to one another and haven't had hard conversations. It is absolutely inevitable that you are going to hurt some of the people you love and vice versa. It is absolutely inevitable that conflict is going to happen. But love still wins
Molly Weasley totally has a hobby/Interest! She knits gifts to her family ❤️ being a stay at home mom is so busy and hard on it’s own but being able to take time to make sweaters and scarves for all her children plus Harry. That’s impressive! I love that she uses her ability to nurture others with kindness and love. She gives Harry a safe place. She is one of my favorite characters.
Well that's lovely, but it's still in service to the family. I agree that it would be perfect if she had just one thing that was all her own, her own quirky hobby or obsession or something. Although I suppose she has the Lockhart books, but that's short-lived and played for laughs.
Also it is said that she was a great duelist and a more than competent witch before she got married and with kids. I mean, she beat Bellatrix and was an active member of the Order.
Being a stay at home mom is busy, but not when all of your kids are in boarding school or adults.
@@Snowshowslow A knitter will find excuses to make things for others. It can be a personal interest and a thing that benefits others, like gardeners who share what they grow.
@@azurekutella3812 That's true, I'm not hating on knitting as a hobby. But symbolically, if the goal is to show that she exists not just for others but also as a person in her own right, this works less well to show that.
The whole family is warm and inviting!!! They have 7 kids and struggled money wise but they saw Ron's friendship with Harry and Hermione and without a doubt took them in when they saw they had no one in the magic world. Its almost like they took them in to ensure they were safe while learning the ropes. It's scary being in a new world with virtually no support hermione comes in with none where as Harry is already use to being independent after years of Neglect.
Still my most favourite films I've worked on, even after all this time it just holds a special place for me. Fun Fact, Bellatrix (Helena Bonham Carter) actually fell backwards off that table when fighting with Molly, and nobody in the crew thought to shout "watch out" because I guess the performance was so good.
What did you do on the films?
@@pae7672 for the last two films I had the pleasure of being on one of the many VFX teams here in London, doing Matchmove (camera tracking, layout and bodytracks) especially for the wands.
I'm a big sucker for the "found-family trope" in writing/stories and the Weasleys are a great example of it. It's the little things they do for Harry to make him feel like family (Christmas gifts that match the rest of the family, making sure that he's fed or has all his books for school) that always get me.
Something that speaks volumes about Arthur and Molly's love for their kids is how, despite chewing their younger children out for engaging in dangerous/reckless behaviour (dropping out of school being among them), bill and Charlie have chosen dangerous career paths but are supported in doing so. It goes to show that Molly and Arthur have a healthy balance between being protective and supportive. They have a good idea of what their kids can and can't handle and are there for them if and when they fall.
Gosh, I can’t express how grateful I am for this channel. From the emotional expression to the honest talks about family & loss, the comedic timing of the editing, but mostly for the lack of toxic masculinity. Watching any video on this channel whenever I’m sad is the warm hug for me. Thank you, Cinema Therapy team. ❤❤❤❤
You're so welcome! ❤️
Aww, thank you! ❤️
The scene with Molly fighting Bellatrix….
I actually really like that she pulled back scared and then came back with more determination and force.
It’s like she was defending her daughter. Showing just how scared a mom is inside, but then showing that a mom’s love will push through that fear and give a new determination and bravery to push past that fear and fight for the safety of her children. Made her pushing back all the more powerful and moving
It was a stunning spell Molly cast, so powerful it stopped Bellatrix’s heart. She’d already lost one son, and wasn’t going to lose her only girl so naturally “NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH!”.
There's a really lovely, if not a little dark, detail that is more obvious in the books than the movies about Mrs Weasley being able to see the signs of neglect on Harry. In the second book especially, they talk about the Dursleys starving him. When he first gets to the burrow Mrs Weasley laments how skinny he his and proceeds to feed him immediately and for the rest of his stay makes sure he has seconds, if not 3rds and 4ths... 🥰
i always loved the Weasleys they are just so loving to one another and despite being huge and low income, they're happy with what they have
Sort of like the Cratchits (A Christmas Carol).
Only the Weasleys, instead of the Cratchits.
Today happens to be the anniversary of a massive impact event that changed my family so drastically that we're still struggling to overcome it 21 years later. So, I really needed one like this today. Thank you, internet dads.
Can I just say, in the hands of a mother, that clock is amazing. In the hands of an emotionally abusive/manipulative partner, that clock is terrifying!
I was thinking something similar, but more along the lines of an abusive parent -- covert narcissist to be exact. *sighs* Don't get me started. 😖🥺
@@a.katherinesuetterlin3028 Yeah, imagine seeing that clock on the mantelpiece at the Malfoys' for example. Not as cute then.
@@Roronoa2zoro Ugh...that is a stomach-turning thought. 🤢
I don't think it's in the movies but another great moment when the Weasley's are there for Harry is at the end of the Triwizard tournament. All the champion's family's are coming and Harry expects to have no one there, but of course Molly and *edit* Bill come.
It's Molly and Bill actually :) But yes, it's a lovely moment.
Yes I absolutely love that scene it is incredibly touching
Growing up in an abusive chaotic home the Weasleys really made me feel safe. They are chaotic because there are a lot of them; lots of moving parts, but they were safe and kind to each other. I used to dream I get red hair and be part of their family. Probably why I’m still attached to red hair now lol 😂
The moment when Molly steps in for Ginny just gets me every time. Movie and books: it’s a beautiful show of love and I’m bawling.
I can't believe how quickly this channel grew in just last 5-6 months! Well done, Cinema Therapy team!
Thank you so much!
You guys are the best especially growing up in a group home and having to live in a mental hospital you guys made me realize what a GOOD Family is.
Also been there and was reading the Harry Potter books up and down during the time in the wayward home. It helped me so much to get through it 🪄✨
@@TrissTess or do u remember the book A serious of Unfortunate Events . Where they lost their family although it was really scary it reminded me what the world is like some people only want to use you and some want to help but the ones who are evil always had a story and before they were nice or normal people who just went through their own thing
@@michaelpetronzio1402 Sadly this story went by me in my youth, cause I didn't speak English back then and books were expensive..But I remember the Neverending Story and Anne Rice's Interview with a Vampire..
My best friend for the last 14 years had a very absentee mother and as a result was always over at my house - while my mom was always seen as the strict, 'scary' one of all the friends' parents, she was always the one my friends and I would call for help. She'd get mad or stressed but she always showed up, she took care of my bff like she was her daughter and to this day my friend and I are both so thankful for my mom for that. She's even said my mom was more a parent to her than her own mother and it both saddened me and made me glad that I got to share my family with her
I come from a broken family. We have a lot of love for each other, but also a lot of issues. Now that I'm in my 20s and want to start a family of my own, I've been actively thinking about ways to do it right. This could not have come at a more perfect time.
I'm gonna be that intrusive person lol. There is one book on psychology that I wish I'd read before becoming a parent in my 20s. Growth Mindset by Carol Dweck. The stuff about how to talk differently to your kids in towards the back. I wish I'd known it so I could practice using different words and celebrating different things before my kiddo was born. I was definitely a dud parent before I read that thing. Best of luck!
@@3countylaugh Thanks. I'll check it out. That's not intrusive at all.
I love how Arthur was in the back, wand ready to jump in if needed. And the brother was holding his sister protectively.
I love how he trusted Molly to do it too, he was worried Bellatrix might overpower her but he wasn't worried molly was too weak or something to finish her off.
Every time I watch your videos and you talk about relationships and highlight healthy habits I never learned, it encourages me to try again, and gives me hope that today can be better than yesterday. I might make mistakes as a parent, but I can learn from them and do better in the future
I had 3 brothers and the whole “only WE can pick on our sibling” thing was so very very true 😅
One of Molly's best moments was in the 4th book, and it sadly did not make it into the movie. When Harry is being swallowed by his emotions of Voldemort returning, watching Cedric die, fighting for his life and seeing his parents' ghosts. Molly hugs him, and it is the very first time (that he can remember) that Harry has experienced the comfort of a mother's embrace. It's such a beautiful moment, I wish it had been included.
Alan's version of Molly & Beatrix's battle scene would have been PERFECTION. Is it possible to see Alan making mini movies for Cinema Therapy? Hearing Alan's insights about film making are always a treat and seeing how he would make scenes better would be immensely satisfying. We love the dynamic between Jonathan and Alan! My whole family watches the channel. I've been a subscriber for a long time and really enjoy the content, thanks for all the hard work everyone puts in, behind the scenes and otherwise.
I wish the movies had taken the time to show the break between Percy and his family. That was an awful situation for the Weasleys to be in. Then when he comes back in the final fight, it's really heartwarming. There is also a scene in one of the books at the end of the school year when families are coming to visit and Harry assumes he will be spending the day all alone... and the Weasleys are there and are happy to see him. Awww!
The Weasleys have so much more to offer. Seems like there's always a lot going on in this family than meest the eye.
I’m just still bitter they cut Teddy Lupin from the last film in the ending! I honestly adore the Weasleys and Fred’s death honestly still gets me every time. I balled my eyes out at that scene AGAIN for the millionth time 😭 I have always wished that scene with Molly and Bellatrix was longer! She was so god same badass!!!!
I just LOVE your guys' editor. Their little meme moments really bring the show together.
We have a team of editors. Sophie did this one and knocked it out of the park!
@@CinemaTherapyShow Please let Sophie know that I let out an unholy snort when Potter Puppet Pals made an appearance.... Absolute classic.
@@CinemaTherapyShow ; I do not understand why they altered Pettigrew's fate in the 7th movie; because in the book the character was supposed to die by his cursed silver hand.
@@CinemaTherapyShow; That witch that was standing over Fred was supposed to be Alecto Carrow but in the book she was dead hours before Fred's death and "He" was killed by Fenrir Greyback.