Pipe welding was something I did a ton of back in the day. That test was an everyday weld for me. We made oil filtration systems for Ford and Chrysler.
Restrictor ring is has to be on top (above) not bottom of groove, also the distance of ring max of 1/2" (12mm) from groove. The ring flange distance out from pipe should be at least 3" if I recall....or was it 6". So no this is not a AWS qualified 6GR
In don't know any of this stuff, but unless it was specified that the flange thing has to be on the bottom side of the test setup, wouldn't you tack it to the top part and hang your off hand on it for supporting hand? Doesn't matter then if you bounce the rig because you're locked onto it. Regardless of method, to get this weld even "done", without it going arse up seems to require more than I might know.
COMPLETAMENTE DE ACUERDO CON VOS.. EL ANILLO RESTRICTOR DEBE IR ARRIBA.. ABAJO, HASTA TE SIRVE DE APOYO!!!.. Y SE, QUE EL ANILLO DEBE MEDIR 6".. LAS PRIMERAS PRUEBAS LAS HICE CON ELECTRODO 6010.. DESPUÉS CON ELECTRODO 7018 Y POR ÚLTIMO CON FLUX CORE..
i remember doing this but the ring was on top and was only allowed 20 mm gap, single bevel at the bottom with schedule 80 and 120 at the top. 6 inch of course
@@DickTator47 скорей всего ,такую технику могут применятт специально, для затруднения проверки мастерства сварщика, так как бывают труднодоступные места.Если вам не встречалось,это не значит что такого нет.многое зависит от производства и стеснёных условий, для того и кульбиты выдумывают приемные комисии
This is restricte welding, you have to have to use both hand. If you pass the welding test, you can go to work on offshore and your money should be higher than others people.
Brother works at Diablo canyon nuclear power plant doing this. must take a full welding test every time he gets called for a 3 month shift. The welders working there are some of the best there is.
Yo dude I worked on diablo canyon nuclear power plant when i was a apprentice making the top head reactor metallic insulation here in uk was a fun project that👍
Put the ring on top where it belongs, then shove the whole coupon up into the corner of a box or shed where you essentially have access to about 270 degrees instead of 360. THAT my friends is the most difficult weld test
НЕзачищеная околошовная зона снаружи и внутри-у нас считается браком даже при визуальном контроле, и да были преценденты, при варке корня и облицовки - поры
Automatic fail. Applicant was using cobalt blue gloves instead of the post'05 mandated Smickle-red welding skins. Also pretty sure his turbo-encabulation was 5/42 out of sync- I mean, fer Crissake, that's the first thing in the regs! But anyway, nice welding jacket.
3:23, I spy porosity. It would make your work that much reassuring if you have a clean landing on the inside of that rusty pipe and not impregnate your root with rust.
Я постоянно варю в зеркало и операционные швы) ещё есть такое "улыбка сварщика" и сварка в зазор со смещением. То что на видео проходим каждый год. Зарплата 1000$(
Technically yes. But depending on the code and procedure. Root passes can be done up or downhill but that is determined by the CWI and what the structure/piping is used for. Your hot, fill, and cap have to be uphill if you’re using a low hydrogen (7018) rod because of the flux and slag it produces behind the puddle of the weld. While you can go downhill with it, the weld will be very weak and include slag inclusion, lack of fusion, and possibly porosity. 6010 and 6011 are perfect for downhill because of the light slag coating it leaves behind plus it is a minor weld pass used. Uphill welds make it stronger than downhill but it comes down to the thickness of the material, the welding process you are using, required amount of passes to be made, and using the proper equipment/settings.
Зачистите тело трубы по 2см от кромки извращенцы. Зачем лишний раз купаться в шлаке при облицовке. И внутренние кромки тоже зачистить, возможна зашлаковка обратного валика
Если не зачистить трубу внутри, то будет подрез а не зашлаковка! И вообще это не сварка, а хрень полнейшая, сколько смотрю и удивляюсь как он так корни херачит что даже зазор не стягивает ( стопудовый пиздешь))
Definitely the ring should be the top above the groves its takes skill to know this weld but definitely a challenge to be a first class welder in retired welder fabercater 40 years only the difference better machinery up to day modern welding machine s my time welding rods i find still as better 👍👍
La probeta de 6 GR no es asi. Eso es una 6G con un disco que molesta un poco. Pero ni el bisel de una de las piezas es así, ni el anillo restrictor está colocado a la distancia correcta. Es por arriba donde ha de estar.
Esos soldadores no saben cual es la 6gr la 6gr es con el anillo arriba para que sea un obstáculo que ver la abilidad del soldador y es fondeada con 7018 esa prueba es para estructural en plataformas yaqeut o dec y un bicel es recto y el otro con bicel
De hecho no es 6gr eso el grosor de l otro tubo debe ser mas grueso del mismo diametro pero en mayor grosor de pared segunda no lleva bisel el tubo con mayor espesor ya que ahi se encuentra en una posición muy facil ya que tienes dos biseles eso sigue siendo 6g pones el restrictivo pero tienes mucha vista ya que tienes los dos biseles aparte esos golpes de arco que ya as dado con eso inspección te para y muchas gracias
А что, на корень электродов диаметром 2,5 мм не было? Мы на таких трубах зазор 2 мм, корень 2,5, заполнение 3мм. Если умение и электроды позволяют, то лицо можно и 4мм пройти
Самое сложное 😂😂 друг мой ты не плох, но и корень нужно проходить основными 7018 и облицовку ложить ровнее. Про подготовку и фланец "опору" я вообще молчу
غلط ف غلط ده مش 6GR غير ان الغرز كله بروستي واستحاله يعدي تصوير عشان انت شغال علي الخشن تاني حاجه الرنج فوق الشنفريه مش تحته تالت حاجه بتبقي جنب شنفريه وجنب مش شنفريه عدل من نفسك عشان تفيد الناس صح
Si yo fuera el inspector, ni empieza: Tubo sucio interior y exterior. Aro de estorbo en posicion incorrecta. Cambio de electeodo de la.pasada de raiz. En fin ...
Por eso el titulo de video del autor, es lo mas dificil :) si hay mucha dificultad, como bien lo menciona, comenzandopor la suciedad del material. saludos
@@dersonantoniovargasmorillo172 No naboito, no hablosolo por hablar. Se limpia primero com piedra calzada en una amoladora recta y luego con flappers de ser srequerido. Veni que ten enseño, ahora que estoy retirado tengo tiempo para unas clases.
@@dersonantoniovargasmorillo172El aro de estorbo va por encima no por debajo del bisel. Otra cosa que discutis sin saber. Lee otros comentarios...si podes entender ingles.
Large bore coupon,no sweat,2" coupon different story, constantly changing angle separates the novice from professional welder .by the way..that weld looks like shit
Esta mal esa preparación, el carrete de arriba es plano y lleva el gorro a media pulgada y el carrete de abajo lleva bisel, el tubo plano es mas grueso que el que lleva bisel, es aprueba es para juntas T K Y smaw y fcaw
6GR weld. Basically a 6g pipe with a restriction ring with only one beveled pipe. This is to simulate a restricted position for the welder having to be used in tight positions. It is a fillet weld on pipe at 45 degrees. But he did it wrong since the restriction ring needs to be above the open bevel area on the pipe in order to fully simulate it.
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Pipe welding was something I did a ton of back in the day. That test was an everyday weld for me. We made oil filtration systems for Ford and Chrysler.
Restrictor ring is has to be on top (above) not bottom of groove, also the distance of ring max of 1/2" (12mm) from groove. The ring flange distance out from pipe should be at least 3" if I recall....or was it 6". So no this is not a AWS qualified 6GR
Your absolutely right...
In don't know any of this stuff, but unless it was specified that the flange thing has to be on the bottom side of the test setup, wouldn't you tack it to the top part and hang your off hand on it for supporting hand? Doesn't matter then if you bounce the rig because you're locked onto it. Regardless of method, to get this weld even "done", without it going arse up seems to require more than I might know.
COMPLETAMENTE DE ACUERDO CON VOS.. EL ANILLO RESTRICTOR DEBE IR ARRIBA.. ABAJO, HASTA TE SIRVE DE APOYO!!!.. Y SE, QUE EL ANILLO DEBE MEDIR 6".. LAS PRIMERAS PRUEBAS LAS HICE CON ELECTRODO 6010.. DESPUÉS CON ELECTRODO 7018 Y POR ÚLTIMO CON FLUX CORE..
Plus: it should have been fitup before taking to arm, lol 😊
I'm not a welder but I have welded, this doesn't seem that difficult?
i remember doing this but the ring was on top and was only allowed 20 mm gap, single bevel at the bottom with schedule 80 and 120 at the top. 6 inch of course
Я не вижу ничего сложного, фланец не мешает, абсолютно. Толщина самая лучшая и удобная,вари нехочу
Done it passed it this dude just welds like shit and don’t know what he’s doing 😂
@@DickTator47 скорей всего ,такую технику могут применятт специально, для затруднения проверки мастерства сварщика, так как бывают труднодоступные места.Если вам не встречалось,это не значит что такого нет.многое зависит от производства и стеснёных условий, для того и кульбиты выдумывают приемные комисии
C est au tig que c dur ms pas a l arc
J ai eu une pièce d épreuve kom ca et la pénétration au tig est difficile
You failed the test the minute you welded outside the strike zone.
And he did it multiple times
That is nothing compared to the restrictive test I did for B& R in Houston Texas, piece of cake for a good welder!!!
Puros cacauates!!!
Arc strikes outside of the allowable weld area are an IMMEDIATE FAIL. The weld area is not to exceed 1/16" outside of the bevels.
Are you sure it's not a small slow fail?
@@Adamz678lol depends on how fast you slip the envelope $$ to the weld inspector.
@@zenlandzipline I never heard of such bullshit
@@DongWang-m4n you obviously never heard a joke.
Visual no undercut. YOU EXCELLENT~^^
This 6GR test was one l did in 1989, it was a last min decision to have the flange in place, as I'd not practiced with a flange, passed all same.
тот год я родился 😊😊😊
6GR is a single bevel welded directly to the plate, with a root opening
simulating a termination.
The restrictor plate should be on the top not the bottom.
This is restricte welding, you have to have to use both hand. If you pass the welding test, you can go to work on offshore and your money should be higher than others people.
Brother works at Diablo canyon nuclear power plant doing this. must take a full welding test every time he gets called for a 3 month shift. The welders working there are some of the best there is.
what type of test is it called?
Yo dude I worked on diablo canyon nuclear power plant when i was a apprentice making the top head reactor metallic insulation here in uk was a fun project that👍
@@JoshuaLa88i don't know what its called but I can ask next time I speak with him
@@jamesfontana748 sure thing, thank you!
That was also known as the "Beach and Racquet Club" back in the 80s.
Put the ring on top where it belongs, then shove the whole coupon up into the corner of a box or shed where you essentially have access to about 270 degrees instead of 360. THAT my friends is the most difficult weld test
Muy bueno👏👏!! Gracias por compartir amigo!!
The flange just gives you something else to prop up on. That's not bad at all. 4 post restricted is a lot tougher
НЕзачищеная околошовная зона снаружи и внутри-у нас считается браком даже при визуальном контроле, и да были преценденты, при варке корня и облицовки - поры
Самое интересное что на работу это никак не повлияет,но нет всякой зуйни на выдумывали
what welding machine are you using?
That does look like a pain. 6g is difficult enough by itself.
I use the ESAB Wires.. which one you use for this?
Consegui fazer um vídeo nos ensinando o 6gr passo a passo o grau que o eletrodo faz em.todas as posições do 6gr e também a regulagem de cada uma
L'électrode, est-ce une cel 80 ?
That looks like 7016. Not sure why you are whipping it like crazy, but at least its a video from your side of the world using a decent rod.
Performed many 6G welds, but have never done a 6GR. Why the restriction plate?
That would be the wall or floor I’m assuming,and had my 6g carbon tssa in Canada for a few years but always needed to use 6010 for my root
My temp stick melting watching this .I grant u that fitting getting so hot he wind up busting the test
개선은 단일개선이고 링의 위치가상딘에 있어야 하는거 아닌가요?????
이런 종류의 6GR시험이 의미있는건지???
а как на счёт лёжа на болота с зеркалом
Automatic fail. Applicant was using cobalt blue gloves instead of the post'05 mandated Smickle-red welding skins. Also pretty sure his turbo-encabulation was 5/42 out of sync- I mean, fer Crissake, that's the first thing in the regs! But anyway, nice welding jacket.
ЭЛЕКРОДЫ С ОНОВНЕЫМ ПОКРЫТИЕМ?
6gr Pipe on top is sch 80 no bevel. Pipe on bottom is sch 40. Resrictor ring is 1/2" from pipe. For strucutual pipe.AWS D1.1
3:23, I spy porosity. It would make your work that much reassuring if you have a clean landing on the inside of that rusty pipe and not impregnate your root with rust.
bhai 1st root ka powar kitna hai
For me d easier test I've ever done..before I'm working in Brunei shell petroleum ❤😂😊
And the ring flat is separate 1/2 inch from the bevel no more and root pass is 7018 and gap is 5/32 sometimes 3/16
Do that weld with a mirror ,that's the hardest!!
Я постоянно варю в зеркало и операционные швы) ещё есть такое "улыбка сварщика" и сварка в зазор со смещением. То что на видео проходим каждый год. Зарплата 1000$(
Облицовку в два прохода делать можно?
Конечно. Количество проходов зависит от толщины стенки. Бывает и 3 и 4 и тд проходов
@@stranasovetov9683 имею в виду кокретно в этом случае я бы в 2 прохода сделал. Спасибо за ответ👍
It depends on the person, but isn't it easier to do it from top to bottom?
There will be no penetration if a weld is done top to bottom
Technically yes. But depending on the code and procedure. Root passes can be done up or downhill but that is determined by the CWI and what the structure/piping is used for. Your hot, fill, and cap have to be uphill if you’re using a low hydrogen (7018) rod because of the flux and slag it produces behind the puddle of the weld. While you can go downhill with it, the weld will be very weak and include slag inclusion, lack of fusion, and possibly porosity. 6010 and 6011 are perfect for downhill because of the light slag coating it leaves behind plus it is a minor weld pass used. Uphill welds make it stronger than downhill but it comes down to the thickness of the material, the welding process you are using, required amount of passes to be made, and using the proper equipment/settings.
Зачистите тело трубы по 2см от кромки извращенцы. Зачем лишний раз купаться в шлаке при облицовке. И внутренние кромки тоже зачистить, возможна зашлаковка обратного валика
Если не зачистить трубу внутри, то будет подрез а не зашлаковка! И вообще это не сварка, а хрень полнейшая, сколько смотрю и удивляюсь как он так корни херачит что даже зазор не стягивает ( стопудовый пиздешь))
electrod is?? 7016? 7018?
а в чём сложность?
Akoy nakatesting narin ng ganyan ang alam ko eh ang isang pipe eh walang vevel tapos ang isa eh meron,tama yan may payong,yon ang alam ko.😊
You fit it and tack it first before putting it in the 6g position
Bottom of that cover pass ??😊
The Ring should be on top.....
Key hole it out, break down the wall and stay focused.
I'd say that grinder sees a lot of work what a mess
Снцтри хотя бы зачистил бы а?
Труба лет сто где-то валялась
Definitely the ring should be the top above the groves its takes skill to know this weld but definitely a challenge to be a first class welder in retired welder fabercater 40 years only the difference better machinery up to day modern welding machine s my time welding rods i find still as better 👍👍
La probeta de 6 GR no es asi. Eso es una 6G con un disco que molesta un poco. Pero ni el bisel de una de las piezas es así, ni el anillo restrictor está colocado a la distancia correcta. Es por arriba donde ha de estar.
장애물의 위치가 바뀌어야하고 장애물 사이즈가 더욱 커져야하며 용접 부위와 장애물의 거리가 더 가까워야 합니다
Esos soldadores no saben cual es la 6gr la 6gr es con el anillo arriba para que sea un obstáculo que ver la abilidad del soldador y es fondeada con 7018 esa prueba es para estructural en plataformas yaqeut o dec y un bicel es recto y el otro con bicel
Are you kidding?
The ungloved hand next to the stinger?
its not a hard welding test. its a hell of a grinding test
есть желание пройти корень в 3-4 электрода но рдг скажет вам что это сложно:)
Single bevel at the bottom...it seems to me that both sides are beveled....
Did that for 34 years grinding is the hardest.
In 6gr test the up bevel is on flat not 35 degrees
Creo están equivocados en decir que esa es una probeta 6GR
Navy 90° against the Wall is the hardest
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Почему 6 гр? Это н 45 по классификации накс.
My old Welding teacher would have said: Hole to hole and it still holds.Thumbs definitely down
De hecho no es 6gr eso el grosor de l otro tubo debe ser mas grueso del mismo diametro pero en mayor grosor de pared segunda no lleva bisel el tubo con mayor espesor ya que ahi se encuentra en una posición muy facil ya que tienes dos biseles eso sigue siendo 6g pones el restrictivo pero tienes mucha vista ya que tienes los dos biseles aparte esos golpes de arco que ya as dado con eso inspección te para y muchas gracias
А что, на корень электродов диаметром 2,5 мм не было? Мы на таких трубах зазор 2 мм, корень 2,5, заполнение 3мм. Если умение и электроды позволяют, то лицо можно и 4мм пройти
К стати накидной фланец с внутренней фаской под 45 слабо.)
Actually it is one of the easiest positions known to man
Самое сложное 😂😂 друг мой ты не плох, но и корень нужно проходить основными 7018 и облицовку ложить ровнее. Про подготовку и фланец "опору" я вообще молчу
غلط ف غلط ده مش 6GR غير ان الغرز كله بروستي واستحاله يعدي تصوير عشان انت شغال علي الخشن تاني حاجه الرنج فوق الشنفريه مش تحته تالت حاجه بتبقي جنب شنفريه وجنب مش شنفريه عدل من نفسك عشان تفيد الناس صح
Ring goes on top
You need to clean the inside of that pipe,that root will fail
У нас это ВОРОТНИКОВЫЙ ФЛАНЕЦ называется
This is not 6gr welding position because the on top instead and single v-vel
Ну лишь бы не текло сойдёт. А так не выдерживает критики ваша работа.
Đây là hàn 6G nhưng bạn rạp chuồng ngại vật đã bị ngược sai.
I could do that with my eyes closed
So a basic 6g with a flange impedance. This isn’t the hardest. Try the coast guard 2”open butt if you want a real challenge. 😊
Выходит что у нас требования к сварке выше
Jajajajj el anillo va arriba de la unión, esa no es ninguna restricción.
El obstáculo está al revés y aparte en los carretes uno lleva bisel y el otro no
With 2 pairs of hands it's not hard at all 😂
Si yo fuera el inspector, ni empieza:
Tubo sucio interior y exterior.
Aro de estorbo en posicion incorrecta.
Cambio de electeodo de la.pasada de raiz.
En fin ...
Por eso el titulo de video del autor, es lo mas dificil :) si hay mucha dificultad, como bien lo menciona, comenzandopor la suciedad del material. saludos
Explícame tu en la práctica, en el campo donde te toque realizar esa paga , como haces para limpiar el tubo por dentro, hablas solo por hablar.
@@dersonantoniovargasmorillo172 No naboito, no hablosolo por hablar. Se limpia primero com piedra calzada en una amoladora recta y luego con flappers de ser srequerido. Veni que ten enseño, ahora que estoy retirado tengo tiempo para unas clases.
@@edgarjaviermaderalaporta9063 el bisel está limpio, atro cosa que dices sin saber, que el aro está incorrecto, por favor.
@@dersonantoniovargasmorillo172El aro de estorbo va por encima no por debajo del bisel. Otra cosa que discutis sin saber. Lee otros comentarios...si podes entender ingles.
4G 7018 root
دعواتكم انجح 😢
7013?
Supposed to be 7018 with a 6010 root
@@nickcross2684 Thanks
This is not a 6g restricted weld test a 6g restricted is 6" from the wall behind it AND to one side of it this is child's play !!!!!!!
this is not a 6GR welding that only 6g ...
Not if you are a welder,and not a wannabe.
Large bore coupon,no sweat,2" coupon different story, constantly changing angle separates the novice from professional welder .by the way..that weld looks like shit
нам при сварке труб не дают пользоваться болгаркой что усложняет процесс сварки
электроды хоть дают?)))
Походу только деревянные.
That's not a 6gr.
This is not 6 gr.
Go to a power plant and do that and you will fail
Esta mal esa preparación, el carrete de arriba es plano y lleva el gorro a media pulgada y el carrete de abajo lleva bisel, el tubo plano es mas grueso que el que lleva bisel, es aprueba es para juntas T K Y smaw y fcaw
Esa no es la 6 gr
Ilustrate man
what are you doing
6GR weld. Basically a 6g pipe with a restriction ring with only one beveled pipe. This is to simulate a restricted position for the welder having to be used in tight positions. It is a fillet weld on pipe at 45 degrees. But he did it wrong since the restriction ring needs to be above the open bevel area on the pipe in order to fully simulate it.
Jaja. Pero la has montado al revés. Así la hace hasta un tonto,la brida va por encima del tope y no por debajo como lamontaste tu
I know thank you
6g
Big big wrong you must on the ring on top
What a mess!