When they bring that chord progression over the top of the bluesy shuffle at the end of that section, I just can't get enough of that interplay. God I Iove that section of this piece.
Hi Howart ! you play it right, especially the 4th bar of the original score of "dance of maya". Most guitarists play it half a tone too high. I love your videos.
Hey Howard! So you good to meet you virtually. I was hoping you might describe the blues lick throughout the second half. I'm working this up on Chapman stick, the arpeggios sound amazing on stick, but I'm not a full bottle of the subtlety of blues phrasing. Cheers bruv. Stickrad 🖖🌈
Hi - if you're referring to the bluesy section in odd time, that's a cool suggestion. I didn't cover that part in the video. Thanx for the suggestion:-)
This is very helpful. I would like to suggest that a camera angle that shows your fingertips rather than obscures them would be totally great. Just swivel your chair to your left a bit. Thank you.
Hi Steven - Thanks for watching... This a very old video, shot way back. The later McLaughlin material is filmed much better - some with 2 camera angles. Thanks again :-)
Howart hello, I follow you from Italy and I must say that, in addition to being very good, I love the songs you propose, I love J.Mclaughlin, zappa ecc.ecc. I wanted to ask you, since I'm learning Dance of Maya, what effects do you use. I have a Tele (Squaier) and a small Vox mini3 with here I play at home. Thanks for your kind reply. Max. P.s. Excuse my school English
iconic song , iconic band , saw MO live many times, after seeing this band you only had 2 alternatives , go home lock your doors and practice 12 hours a day for 5 years or sell all of your guitars ! Aerosmith opened one concert I went to and the MO made them look like amatuers which of course they werent
I'm jealous :-) I saw J.M. several times, but never with the Mahavishnu Orchestra... I did see him with The One Truth Band - Shankar was on electric violin! A mind blowing concert to say the least.
@@247GuitarwithHowardHart I was never lucky enough to see L Shankar live, Ravi yes! mind blowing experience, some of L Shankar solos with Shakti were incredible, Mind Ecology
Good job, sir. I have a correction for you, if you don't mind. The printed sheet music shows the final five chords as full four-note chords. I used to do parallel Dom7b9s myself before I saw the book. (found here: www.popeye-x.com/downloads/other/mahavishnu_notation.zip) The main aspect to the full four-note chords is that there is an awesome and very interesting movement in the bottom two voices that are being lost in your arrangement, although you can pull the bottom note as the 'middle note' in the following explication: When starting on Eb, the full chord is Eb, Db (m7th), G, and B (Dom7b9), as you know. This, by itself, isn't awesome, but how the next chord starts and then moves to the subsequent chord is where the magic lies. The next chord's bass movement is down a minor third to C and the middle note moves a whole step down to B natural, while the top two notes, F# and A# move in descending minor 6ths (as you already know). But that chord is basically the previous 'Maya' shape writ large. The bottom note then moves up, the middle note stays and the top two notes move down again creating the first shape again (Dom7b9). Do that whole thing one more time, you end up on the Dom7b9 one last time on the actual Dominant, B. Boom. The coolest tune made even cooler. Then there are the chords to Vision is a Naked Sword...whoa. Same shape and motion but transposed all over the darn place. Check it out! (I have a transcription if you wanna see it.) Cheers!
Could you explain how to understand or measure the end portion where the initial guitar part goes over the shuffle? i get the 6 triplets plus the 2 notes making up the 20/8, but how does this match with the 10/8 implied in the initial guitar riff is beyond me! I can play it but have never really assimilated it!
Hi - Thanks for watching and thanks for your question. Counting is counting of course... and various time signatures can be subdivided and counted in different ways (depending on the feel you're looking for) - For instance, 9/8 might be counted 1,2,3,4,5/1,2,3,4 or just the opposite 1,2,3,4/1,2,3,4,5 - it really doesn't matter. But this section is "poly-rhythmic". Two different feels played on top of each other. The main guitar part is NOT a shuffle, while the 'boogie' part is. In the video I said "it's sort of like 6 measures of 3 and 1 measure of 2" - That's simply one way to see it, and I felt it was probably the best way to get it across to the viewer. But I could also have said an 8th note into a 16th note 6 times, plus two 16th notes at the end - But play it as a shuffle :-) That's actually how J.M. chose to notate it in his book. I was afraid this might be a little confusing... to say the least. A long winded explanation - But I hope it helps in some way ~ Howard
I'm glad you found it useful... You're right - J.M.'s tone was pretty distorted on the original... Probably a squawked wah-wah as well. It is kinda nice to really hear the chords 🎸
Yeah, I agree, the guitar sounds amazing with fewer effects. It's the same when listening to early Camel records. I listened to some newer versions of the songs and they had no vocal or other funny effects. It was wonderful. :D
Ha! Ha! Sorry... I think I missed this one. Not annoyed at all. Thanks for the correction. One hears his name pronounced in a few different ways. All the best to you - H.H.
When they bring that chord progression over the top of the bluesy shuffle at the end of that section, I just can't get enough of that interplay. God I Iove that section of this piece.
It cleaves the Universe!
i feel the exact same way, it shows their genius when it comes pacing a song, and really feels like the track is coming to a close
i like the little melody for the intro :)
very good Howard. May i suggest trilogy ? And thank you very much to teach us this guitar hero
trilogy by elp or?
Thanks Howard, I always wanted to learn this, and you made it easy for me.
starting to learn this today I am going to f---cking learn this entire thing I swear to god
Excellent
Hi Howart ! you play it right, especially the 4th bar of the original score of "dance of maya". Most guitarists play it half a tone too high. I love your videos.
Cool, thanks!
Hey Howard! So you good to meet you virtually. I was hoping you might describe the blues lick throughout the second half. I'm working this up on Chapman stick, the arpeggios sound amazing on stick, but I'm not a full bottle of the subtlety of blues phrasing.
Cheers bruv.
Stickrad 🖖🌈
Hi - if you're referring to the bluesy section in odd time, that's a cool suggestion. I didn't cover that part in the video. Thanx for the suggestion:-)
@@247GuitarwithHowardHart Yes mate, that's it. I think I've got it but I really like to hear it from a guitarist. Stickrad 🖖
I play this in a different plave on the neck but sounds the same!
This is very helpful. I would like to suggest that a camera angle that shows your fingertips rather than obscures them would be totally great. Just swivel your chair to your left a bit. Thank you.
Hi Steven - Thanks for watching... This a very old video, shot way back. The later McLaughlin material is filmed much better - some with 2 camera angles. Thanks again :-)
Howart hello, I follow you from Italy and I must say that, in addition to being very good, I love the songs you propose, I love J.Mclaughlin, zappa ecc.ecc. I wanted to ask you, since I'm learning Dance of Maya, what effects do you use. I have a Tele (Squaier) and a small Vox mini3 with here I play at home. Thanks for your kind reply.
Max.
P.s. Excuse my school English
Hi - Believe it or not... it's just the Tele into a Peavey Rage amp :-)
iconic song , iconic band , saw MO live many times, after seeing this band you only had 2 alternatives , go home lock your doors and practice 12 hours a day for 5 years or sell all of your guitars ! Aerosmith opened one concert I went to and the MO made them look like amatuers which of course they werent
I'm jealous :-) I saw J.M. several times, but never with the Mahavishnu Orchestra... I did see him with The One Truth Band - Shankar was on electric violin! A mind blowing concert to say the least.
@@247GuitarwithHowardHart I was never lucky enough to see L Shankar live, Ravi yes! mind blowing experience, some of L Shankar solos with Shakti were incredible, Mind Ecology
Good job, sir. I have a correction for you, if you don't mind. The printed sheet music shows the final five chords as full four-note chords. I used to do parallel Dom7b9s myself before I saw the book. (found here: www.popeye-x.com/downloads/other/mahavishnu_notation.zip) The main aspect to the full four-note chords is that there is an awesome and very interesting movement in the bottom two voices that are being lost in your arrangement, although you can pull the bottom note as the 'middle note' in the following explication: When starting on Eb, the full chord is Eb, Db (m7th), G, and B (Dom7b9), as you know. This, by itself, isn't awesome, but how the next chord starts and then moves to the subsequent chord is where the magic lies. The next chord's bass movement is down a minor third to C and the middle note moves a whole step down to B natural, while the top two notes, F# and A# move in descending minor 6ths (as you already know). But that chord is basically the previous 'Maya' shape writ large. The bottom note then moves up, the middle note stays and the top two notes move down again creating the first shape again (Dom7b9). Do that whole thing one more time, you end up on the Dom7b9 one last time on the actual Dominant, B. Boom. The coolest tune made even cooler. Then there are the chords to Vision is a Naked Sword...whoa. Same shape and motion but transposed all over the darn place. Check it out! (I have a transcription if you wanna see it.) Cheers!
Hi, I tried the link but it doesn't work. I've always wanted to see the score r at least a rhythm description for this incredible song !
GREAT MAESTRO!!!!!!
You're very kind... I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Thanx for watching :-)
Interesting choice for a profile pic.
Could you explain how to understand or measure the end portion where the initial guitar part goes over the shuffle? i get the 6 triplets plus the 2 notes making up the 20/8, but how does this match with the 10/8 implied in the initial guitar riff is beyond me! I can play it but have never really assimilated it!
Hi - Thanks for watching and thanks for your question. Counting is counting of course... and various time signatures can be subdivided and counted in different ways (depending on the feel you're looking for) - For instance, 9/8 might be counted 1,2,3,4,5/1,2,3,4 or just the opposite 1,2,3,4/1,2,3,4,5 - it really doesn't matter.
But this section is "poly-rhythmic". Two different feels played on top of each other. The main guitar part is NOT a shuffle, while the 'boogie' part is. In the video I said "it's sort of like 6 measures of 3 and 1 measure of 2" - That's simply one way to see it, and I felt it was probably the best way to get it across to the viewer. But I could also have said an 8th note into a 16th note 6 times, plus two 16th notes at the end - But play it as a shuffle :-) That's actually how J.M. chose to notate it in his book. I was afraid this might be a little confusing... to say the least.
A long winded explanation - But I hope it helps in some way ~ Howard
I actually enjoy hearing the chords more clearly here. They got lost with all that psychedelic over tones
I'm glad you found it useful... You're right - J.M.'s tone was pretty distorted on the original... Probably a squawked wah-wah as well. It is kinda nice to really hear the chords 🎸
Yeah, I agree, the guitar sounds amazing with fewer effects. It's the same when listening to early Camel records. I listened to some newer versions of the songs and they had no vocal or other funny effects. It was wonderful. :D
I find it as in 10/8
(3/8;3/8;4/8)
I can't hear the 4/8. I prefer his 3/8, 3/8, 1/8, 3/8
The hard part is the drums. Whew!
Ha! Ha! - Yes indeed... Billy is a monster. One of a kind :-)
There's a great drum cover of this song on RUclips, look it up. The guy cops all of amazing stuff Cobham did.
What beat is this thing?
It's in 10/8 time
@@247GuitarwithHowardHart
I guess the phrases are 3/8+3/8+4/8
That's a totally acceptable way to see it :-)
John Mc"log"lin actually.
But loved the video.
Sorry if I annoyed you by this.
Ha! Ha! Sorry... I think I missed this one. Not annoyed at all. Thanks for the correction. One hears his name pronounced in a few different ways. All the best to you - H.H.