Whilst protesters were concentrating on Greenham , weapons were (at that time) able to moved freely in about out of RAF Welford just down the M4. Road , air and rail were all available and the US had control of approximately 50% of the considerable site. In some ways Greenham was a convenient and clever distraction.
The Cruise launcher convoys might have practiced dispersing into woodland hides, but in wartime they'd have deployed to warehouses on industrial estates, large farm buildings or old aircraft hangers etc. CND really didn't have a clue.
Brilliant video. I was a wee lad in 1983, and we all thought and feared the world we were in back then. At least we knew who the proposed enemy was. My God, it's nothing compared to the horrors and fears of this modern world. I miss the Cold War. Somehow, felt much safer back then! Thanks for posting this :)
Was in C flt in 89 till deactivation in 90. Fun times hangin at the Wagons and Horses, lol... It was actually a pretty sweet assignment. The CND chicks were always entertaining when our convoy would deploy for training 😅
Those Greenham Common women were not CND or 'chicks'. They were very courageous, creative, powerful women who loved their children and peace and they knew how to collaborate. Some had PhDs and all were committed to peace, to sanity, to stopping the terrible waste of theses weapons and destruction and madness and they went through hell to make their point. I was there at times and it was tough and local men threw blood and offal at them. Hard to admire that. Cowardly and weak. These women inspired so many around the world. Perhaps you could watch a new documentary film 'Mothers of the Revolution' to be informed and respectful and see just what it took for them to be there. In huge admiration. Gorbachev from Russia said in London that he did not trust Reagan to keep the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty but he trusted the Greenham Common women to keep him to his word. That is true power.
I was at Salisbury College of Art when Greenham Common was at its busiest. I remember going out there to photograph the the Cruise Missile convoy going out on exercise.
Some fairly big holes in the analysis provided here on this missile system. The members assigned that all potential military targets would have been struck by Soviet nukes at once.
Stand To Lima! Let's go! RAF Greenham-Common (and all the space between, and on Salisbury Plain) 86-90. Loved my time there! This is a riot to watch...never knew this documentary existed.
@17:56 the ginger moustached "peace nick" says retaliate first? How can you retaliate first? Retaliation is a response in kind to something that has happened
The paint scheme on the convoy isn't as flat/matte as I would expect. I should think this would make the potential launch sites pre-sighted by enemy satellites, that is, to rule-out reflective surfaces that had been there all along (lakes, galvanized roofs, etc) so that anything reflective that hadn't been there before, would become a potential target. Maybe the chemical makeup of the paint is to prevent other means of identification instead, such as infrared? Maybe it can't have a totally matte finish for the sake of weather protection. I don't know.
Casper Weinberger is said to have dismissed this weapon system as useless. His reasoning was that a Soviet saboteur with a hunting rifle could place a single shot to the missile tube penetrating the cruise missile's fuel cell thus rendering the entire unit out of action. Weinberger claimed the only reason the GLCMs were made were to be simple pawns to trade something we wished the Soviets to remove from their arsenal.
Rifle-carrying Soviet saboteurs were not the widely available resource Mr. Weinberger seemed to think. Also, military-age males carrying guitar cases just loitering around military bases attract more attention than you might assume.
American invasion of UK . Lets make Greenham a valid target , thanks yanks!! though we got some of the best acid ever of some of the American crew there . Californian sunshine !
Did the USAF really use British trucks for the Gryphon launchers? I thought they used the M1013, which was based on the MAN KAT1, just like they did for the Pershing II?
Love the fake Cruise set up… and home made radar! red peril, yellow peril, Cold War, SKYNET, ozone layer, global cooling, war on terror, global warming, climate change…. Still here, zillions spent.
Why are they talking about moving the missile convoy during nuclear war? They’re missiles... just launch them from wherever you parked them during a war, why weave through different routes and setup in a clearing in the woods? Do the missile not have an extra few hundred miles of range?
In order for the guidance system that missile used to work correctly, it has to start with a fairly precise set of launch coordinates. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system
Probably made of plywood. Probably had 60 of them to confuse the Russians and inconvenience the public. In any case the Russians probably knew more than the British government through the spy network.
These weopans were camouflaged with such expertise you wouldn’t know it Wes there in a situation, the Americans were no idiots they new spetnaz operators and some kgb operatives were in cnd
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The second lorry carries the neccessary items in an emergency to make about 30,000 cups of tea.
Whilst protesters were concentrating on Greenham , weapons were (at that time) able to moved freely in about out of RAF Welford just down the M4. Road , air and rail were all available and the US had control of approximately 50% of the considerable site. In some ways Greenham was a convenient and clever distraction.
It is absolutely brilliant that they built a cruise missile convoy and then used it to illustrate very well a thorny issue
The Cruise launcher convoys might have practiced dispersing into woodland hides, but in wartime they'd have deployed to warehouses on industrial estates, large farm buildings or old aircraft hangers etc. CND really didn't have a clue.
Since it’s Thames, perhaps the fake cruise missile lorries could be speeded up with Benny Hill music? That would confuse the Russians.
Brilliant video. I was a wee lad in 1983, and we all thought and feared the world we were in back then. At least we knew who the proposed enemy was. My God, it's nothing compared to the horrors and fears of this modern world. I miss the Cold War. Somehow, felt much safer back then! Thanks for posting this :)
Maybe not so great when we now find out just how close it came to full scale nuclear war a few times. And for thirty years very few people knew..
Was in C flt in 89 till deactivation in 90. Fun times hangin at the Wagons and Horses, lol... It was actually a pretty sweet assignment. The CND chicks were always entertaining when our convoy would deploy for training 😅
Those Greenham Common women were not CND or 'chicks'. They were very courageous, creative, powerful women who loved their children and peace and they knew how to collaborate. Some had PhDs and all were committed to peace, to sanity, to stopping the terrible waste of theses weapons and destruction and madness and they went through hell to make their point. I was there at times and it was tough and local men threw blood and offal at them. Hard to admire that. Cowardly and weak. These women inspired so many around the world. Perhaps you could watch a new documentary film 'Mothers of the Revolution' to be informed and respectful and see just what it took for them to be there. In huge admiration. Gorbachev from Russia said in London that he did not trust Reagan to keep the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty but he trusted the Greenham Common women to keep him to his word. That is true power.
Love the WW2 Jeep and Truck following the launcher.
I was at Salisbury College of Art when Greenham Common was at its busiest. I remember going out there to photograph the the Cruise Missile convoy going out on exercise.
Good work, did you ever publish your work?
Some fairly big holes in the analysis provided here on this missile system.
The members assigned that all potential military targets would have been struck by Soviet nukes at once.
love this video!! Is it me or it there lots of bits cut out?
Yes, about 6 minutes give or take.
Stand To Lima! Let's go! RAF Greenham-Common (and all the space between, and on Salisbury Plain) 86-90. Loved my time there! This is a riot to watch...never knew this documentary existed.
Those eye brows!!!
Did they do one on the SS-20? The soviets had a mobile, difficult-to-locate theater ballistic missile.
I was number 2 on the list to go over to Europe. I worked on the Minuteman III missiles. But I never did get to go, they were being phased out.
@17:56 the ginger moustached "peace nick" says retaliate first? How can you retaliate first? Retaliation is a response in kind to something that has happened
I think he was being ironic.
The paint scheme on the convoy isn't as flat/matte as I would expect. I should think this would make the potential launch sites pre-sighted by enemy satellites, that is, to rule-out reflective surfaces that had been there all along (lakes, galvanized roofs, etc) so that anything reflective that hadn't been there before, would become a potential target.
Maybe the chemical makeup of the paint is to prevent other means of identification instead, such as infrared? Maybe it can't have a totally matte finish for the sake of weather protection. I don't know.
The vehicles featured in this video are fake ones built by the TV company for the documentary.
lovely crusaders,im guessin they are civvy spec as they even had detroits in them and normal headlights.
Very civvy Terry round diesel tanks too. At 3:02 lead truck looks like ENY268V
Casper Weinberger is said to have dismissed this weapon system as useless. His reasoning was that a Soviet saboteur with a hunting rifle could place a single shot to the missile tube penetrating the cruise missile's fuel cell thus rendering the entire unit out of action. Weinberger claimed the only reason the GLCMs were made were to be simple pawns to trade something we wished the Soviets to remove from their arsenal.
Also, the women at the peace camp managed to disable a launcher by shoving a potato up it’s exhaust pipe!🥔
Two pointless comments, made by two braindead doughnuts, you could still either of them things to a missile today in 2023...
@@AtheistOrphanHave you ever actually seen a truck exhaust? That would be one massive potato.
@@Iaintwoke - It certainly was! It made the national TV news at the time. I remember it well.
Rifle-carrying Soviet saboteurs were not the widely available resource Mr. Weinberger seemed to think. Also, military-age males carrying guitar cases just loitering around military bases attract more attention than you might assume.
Ya know there is a thing called hide in plain sight, a repository `` site `` might be empty ,and the real thing might t be possibly `` un known ``
Wait... TVEye built mock-ups of a launch convoy ?
I thought it was real launcher lol
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Yes.
I guess that's where all the excess budget for the year went
American invasion of UK . Lets make Greenham a valid target , thanks yanks!! though we got some of the best acid ever of some of the American crew there . Californian sunshine !
Exact specifications eh? lol
Shall We Play A Game? Let’s Play Global Thermonuclear War
Did the USAF really use British trucks for the Gryphon launchers? I thought they used the M1013, which was based on the MAN KAT1, just like they did for the Pershing II?
You are correct. This is a fake one built by the TV company for the documentary.
this is a strange video. mock up missiles and odd trucks etc
Lmfao, looks like a ww2 torpedo 😃
Love the fake Cruise set up… and home made radar!
red peril, yellow peril, Cold War, SKYNET, ozone layer, global cooling, war on terror, global warming, climate change…. Still here, zillions spent.
The serial vehicles looked different.
Are they ready that slow?
The missiles were powered by small jet turbines.
Why are they talking about moving the missile convoy during nuclear war? They’re missiles... just launch them from wherever you parked them during a war, why weave through different routes and setup in a clearing in the woods? Do the missile not have an extra few hundred miles of range?
In order for the guidance system that missile used to work correctly, it has to start with a fairly precise set of launch coordinates. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system
Those mock ups were amusing.The actual cruise missiles in the bunkers looked nothing like them.
Probably made of plywood. Probably had 60 of them to confuse the Russians and inconvenience the public. In any case the Russians probably knew more than the British government through the spy network.
Global Thermonuclear War ! Yay!!
These weopans were camouflaged with such expertise you wouldn’t know it Wes there in a situation, the Americans were no idiots they new spetnaz operators and some kgb operatives were in cnd
Mock ups complete joke!! 84-86 501 TMMS