"We have a bad history with Freaks dressed like Clowns." is the most brutal damage Bruce Wayne can deliver to Clark besides shooting his face with Kryptonite Gas.
The back and forth is amazing. Clark goes in on Bruce. Bruce fires right back. Instead of another cutting response, Clark looks like he's seriously considering what Bruce just said. Like "This is a point of view I hadn't thought of. I need to go to the fortress of solitude and mull this over for a week". Love the contrast between these two.
It would have been better if Bruce was just straight forward laid it to him "I lost a lot of good people, employees, and friends the day that alien decided to use metropolis as his boxing ring" and it would have destroyed Clark. Because he would understand all those off-screen deaths that are a direct result of his actions (Especially since he accidentally led Zod to earth).
My favourite moment of his is the scene when he comes back to the house with the chopped wood Seeing the Kapitol bombing aftermath, and realizing Bruce is out for blood. That he failed to save him That scene was so heart wrenching
@@Ismael-kc3ry In the Ultimate edition they all felt like character with emotions It was hard for the theatrical to achieve that considering they cut the context out of most of the character arcs
I like how Bruce goes from acting like he has no clue what the Daily Planet is, to criticising their support of Superman, as soon as the conversation becomes about whether Batman is above the law
Same, I like how you could see in his eyes that he boils over internally at the idea of Clark talking about the Batman like he's some criminal. As in Bruce's eyes, he's seen and experienced the worst of the criminal underworld countless times and has been hardened by it all. Superman can destroy half a city and cause the deaths of thousands just to take down one man, but Batman beats up some thugs in the night and he's treated like some kind of villain. He pokes holes in Clark's idealism and reveals his hypocrisy with just a few sentences.
Mustangblue08 Don’t forget that Batman and Bruce are different people. And Batman himself considers himself to be Batman and Bruce Wayne is his secret identity/mask. He is always Batman unless he has to put on a show and act like Bruce Wayne, the playboy billionaire. The whole time he was talking to Clark, he was supposed to act like Bruce Wayne, but you could hear and feel all of the Batman pouring out during the whole conversation he had with Clark once he mentioned Superman. And I love how you can tell he’s trying to hold back the Batman side in him during that conversation and retain mostly the Bruce Wayne side. It was all about to come out once the “freaks dressed like clowns” line came in, but Lex simply being there saved it and he went back to his Bruce Wayne side. Not completely though. His words started getting more towards Bruce Wayne, but his demeanor stays Batman. That’s how you know Batman feels strongly about how much he doesn’t want Superman around. Ben Affleck plays this role so well especially since how he plays him is more accurately how Batman is in the comics even with the older more experienced Batman they were going for. That’s why Ben Affleck was my favorite actor to play Batman, but I have a feeling that’ll change next year when Robert Pattinson dons the cowl because he seems like he’s going to share a lot of the qualities Affleck did when playing Batman, but amplify that 100x.
mahi zen Not really. Affleck’s Batman was more comic accurate than other live action portrays. Bale’s Batman was actually one of the most different. Ben Affleck’s was different compared to the others because he was the most like Batman when it comes to live action actors. Bale’s Batman had mediocre fighting for someone who trained with the League of Assassins and knows 127 different forms of martial arts, and for the “World’s Greatest Detective” he definitely had a lot of that work done for him by Fox. Ben Affleck’s Batman does great with fighting, and though not amazing detective work, it’s still the best that has been shown in live action. The way he plays Bruce, older Bruce remember that, is also more accurate to how Batman really is. Different doesn’t mean better.
I have to say Affleck nailed this entire scene. A man amongst boys. The range of emotions he needs to deliver in this entire scene alone proves how talented he is. He goes from deceiving to confrontational to being deceived effortlessly.
Batfleck and Cavill were just wasted potential. They could’ve been some of the best cinematic versions of their characters due to their appearances and solid acting skills. If only they didn’t star in movies that ranged from mediocre to just downright shitty (lookin at you, justice league)
why does he appear so bored in justice league? I guess he really didn't like being cheerful and pathetic in that movie. Wish snyder made him a badass in snyder cut like how he was here
Bruce didn't want to talk to Clark. He was trying to avoid attention. But Clark insisted, almost pushed him to the point where he says "Alright kid, you wanted this" with his eyes.
@@TheStraightestWhitest no bro because Someone will catch him lacking Like someone will catch him on road and someone will speak and do what feels necessary that’s all I’m gonna say public whys but obviously I will catch him slipping I will film him you’ll see a video in like a year confronting ginger gafer I got a team looking into where he chills xx
I love how Superman hides his identity by putting on glasses.. Imagine: *Lex:* Superman, I am a genius-level intellec- **Clark puts on glasses** *Lex:* Where'd he go?
Some Asshole he trying to keep his cover so he puts on his “Bruce Wayne the playboy” persona. Sees Diana, doesn’t want Clark or others to think there’s something shifty about the situation. So acts like her being a distraction of his focus was simply Bruce Wayne checking out the beautiful woman. It’s like how Christian bales Bruce always had a girl on his arm in the Nolan trilogy
I think that was probably a reference to The Daily Planet's competitor, The Daily Star. Like, "Do I own this newspaper company, or do I own the other guy?"
Ben Affleck already has that Batman smirk instill within him. Like at 1:56 or the subtle smirk at 2:27. He’s the perfect guy to play Bruce Wayne/Batman. Not only in looks, but persona wise as well. A shame we never got any standalone Batfleck.
@@jerrylewis788 I don't think he realized it. It was just him getting pissy over the Daily Planet, a paper that simps for Superman, criticizing his city and Batman. If he figured it out then, he would have known everything about Clark before they fought and he never would have been surprised his adopted moms name was Martha.
@@igor20igor Well considering Clarks only been in the big cities for a couple of years I don't blame him being out of touch when Bruce is almost a recluse in this universe, but he still a news reporter so idk why he just never knew what he even looked like💀😂
"We just have a bad history with freaks dressed like clowns." That line still gives me chills and it makes his interaction with the Joker in Snyder's JL so much better.
Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne character is so on point. He really looks like he can't stand being in the crowd or with people, he learned a couple of phrases to use when interacting and also he looks like he was practiced his smile in the mirror. Just that change in his face on 0:53 is perfect example . I really got a sense that his Bruce Wayne really trying to hold it together as much as he can.
What are you talking about? He's a genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, martial artist hence he need not practice how to smile or interact with strangers.
It's crazy to think everyone might've knew eachothers alter persona in this scene. Lex obviously knows Clark is Superman maybe Bruce as Batman as well. Clark hears Alfred in Bruce's headset. Bruce initially plays coy then attacks Clark with his Daily Planet sentiments. Wish WB let Zack go about his plan as he had wanted to.
@@J1283-s1k Yeah idk just turn it down a notch theres some moments he does a good job The "you had an hour. No you have less." Line was good I thought Idk it's just too much
@kill dANo Bruce Wayne most def knew, hes the greatest detective in the world after all. The way he talks to Clark and looks him up and down at 2:52 as says "...Freaks dressed as clowns", he most def know
@@Somalia690 He's muttering to himself in response to telling bruce to find a woman up stairs to keep his attention for a while. "in your dreams, Alfred (like that would actually happen)"
I still love this scene. I never noticed Clark's reactions before. He really hasn't heard that some people think of him as a threat and it's cutting like a kryptonite knife.
I quite like the opposite thing they have here too. Clark feels like he's not doing enough Superman-ing and Bruce is doing too much Batman-ing and they are both viewed in the same light: terrorists
@@zakichan851 its the opposite, he wanted to portray them all in a single team up first before writing their origin story. He didn't want to go the marvel way. Look at the pre BVS interviews where people thought bat's intro was too ear;y
Man, how Affleck nails Bruce Wayne in such a short scene makes me angry that his solo outing didn't pan out. He could've easily gone over the top to distinguish Bruce from Batman, but no, instead he takes a lot more subtle route. The way his mannerisms switch instantly when Mercy comes in is just awesome.
@@itlog.sa.chicken this movie made me don't see "oh it's not Ben Afleck, it's Bruce Wayne and Batman out there" But in josstice League "oh it's Ben Afleck and some cringe jokes of Joss Whedon", thank god zsjl exists.
@@cauaviniciusguedes2004 you can’t even form a grammatically correct sentence and you think you’re allowed to criticize the art that is movie production? Get the fuck out of here. If you made a movie, it would be worse than literally any movie we’ve ever seen. So shut the fuck up and be thankful you have movies to keep your spoiled little ass entertained instead of fighting for survival against lions or fighting against unfair living conditions of early civilization.
the movie was horrible and had bad pacing, then they did justice league and it was even worse, they just keep destroying DC with these awful movies :c the justice league deserves a better movie
I will always think that Christian Bale played a better Bruce Wayne than Ben Affleck, but If I ever wanted to make an argument that Ben was better, this is the scene I'd use. (Ben defo played Batman better tho)
I think the warehouse fight is, obviously, the best live action Batman fight ever on film but this scene feels like Bruce Wayne more than any other actor, as well. It’s an unpopular opinion but I think Ben did it best in this movie (I haven’t seen Justice League, though)
@@micromashington Bale makes a great young Bruce Wayne while Affleck is a better cynical aged Bruce Wayne imo. The fact that he doesn't even try that much to maintain the playboy facade compared to Bale Bruce Wayne shows how tired he is. Now we just need Keaton to play Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne and we'll have a full house.
If Lex didn't interrupt these two, I swear Bruce would have been all "I know who you are, ALIEN. We're not in a comic book. Your glasses don't fool a single cell of my brain."
@@boiboiboi1419 Arthur Fleck isn't a part of DCEU dumbass, Ben Afflecks Batman fought Dead shot in Suicide Squad where YA guessed it LETO'S Joker is a CHARACTER.
Imagine if Diana reacted immediately when Bruce was talking to Clark Bruce: "Wow, pretty girl, bad habit." Diana: "Excuse me??" Batman vs Superman vs Wonder Woman
Darth Pancake Studios You’re leaving out the part where he was trained by the league of shadows and is an actual billionaire with ridiculous resources, but yeah it’s fiction
@@JuveX0 Yes being Batman is actually possible. Maybe you can't be Batman for very long but it is actually possible according to studies. Don't believe me. www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/07/19/becoming-batman-may-not-be-as-crazy-as-it-sounds%3fcontext=amp
Bruce was 100% right to not trust Superman initially. Until they discovered the Kryptonite there was literally nothing anyone would be able to do to stop Superman if he went rogue. The world had seen just how much devastation a Kryptonian can do. Bruce was absolutely right in saying "if there is even a 1% chance he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty", because you can't take chances when you're dealing with a being as powerful as Superman.
Why didn’t Batman save earth from the kryptonians? Batman is nothing without kryptonite! Superman stopped Zod from turning earth into krypton killing everyone on the planet! Batman is a criminal he tortures other criminals for pleasure
First of all there was literally nothing he could do at the time.2,he doesn't torture criminals for entertainment he scares them off because he doesn't want anyone to go through the same or similar trauma he went through as a child.@y8qb4rj1d
Brandon Mejia not his fault those wb morons tried to make him into a mcu character instead they ruined Bruce Wayne Bruce is serious all the time and only laughs and makes jokes every blue moon and even then it's dry humor.
@Mark Steven We need the Snyder cut of Justice League first. Frankly, I pity Christian for all the laryngitis he must have gotten. There's a reason Kevin Conroy changed his way of differentiating Batman and Bruce as the DCAU rolled on.
I Really liked this Lex. The only thing (with the Warenhouse fight, and the future Vision), I liked in this Movie. Anyway, the Best Lex Luthor Character for me, is in "young Justice". Since then, Lex is one of my Favorite Villians.
3 years later, and people still dont get the approach to Luthor in this movie, still going over people head, and to top it off they still compare it to characters that have literally zero to do with the characterization of the character in this movie
warner ruined the original cut of SS because of (as usual) retarded test audiences and test screenings, and amateur editing, if you remove the tattoos and give the original cut the SS movie is way better
@@Movie_Games I hope so, I really love Joaquin Phoenix's portrayal so far (yeah the film hasn't come out, but he was really good in the trailer and it seems like he's devoted and cares about the role. Has it been confirmed that this Joker movie is part of the DCEU? What is it with the DCEU changing their most iconic characters to try and be edgy?
i for one absolutely enjoyed letos joker and i believe if he was the main villain in that film (along with no studio interference and a decent writer) you would feel differently. Like many he was the only reason i went to see the movie in the first place, and when i realized he was not the villain and had, what? 6 min screen time? i flipped my shit. suicide squad was the downfall of DCEU they had SUCH an opportunity, they simply set asside their greatest asset for 6 minutes of showtime, and no writing whatsoever. it was an 1 1/2 movie trailer. they fucking reused the same shot twice, of deadshot, no edits lmao, THE. SAME. EXACT. SHOT. jared lettos joker was perfect for him, it was the producers, studio, and writers who dropped the ball
Cavill as Superman is still up in the air. He's clearly still interested in the role and some people in WB have said that the DCEU can be open to Cavill's superman in the future, but there's no definite plan made for him. Affleck as Batman though is totally done. Whatever personal shit he was going through in combination with the JL reshoots totally destroyed his interest to play Batman again. He's gonna play him in The Flash (2023) for one final time, but then he'll be gone. And the time travel used in the movie is gonna be Warner Bros' way to replace him with Micheal Keaton's Batman in the DCEU.
“You write a puff piece editorial about an alien who if he wanted to could burn the whole place down. There wouldn’t be a damn thing we could do to stop him” Pretty much talking about brightburn
"... freaks [dressed like clowns.] ..." -Batfleck flexes his non synthesized Dark Knight voice. Whether intentional or not - simply brilliant. Adds so much weight to the most original epic hero dialogue.
@@boiboiboi1419 They didn't even start writing The Joker movie when this was in cinemas so NO it is not an Arthur Fleck reference, it's a Jared Leto Joker reference dumbarse.
The “I like those shoes” scene might be my favourite Batfleck scene, and the scene that sold me on Ben as Batman. He does the playboy facade and drops it for his true mission focused persona expertly. Such a shame we didn’t get a solo Batfleck movie...
It's 2022 and I still come back and watch this scene. I love how Bruce is playing dumb at first pretending he has no idea who Clark is or the Daily Planet, but then pulls a complete 180 and lets Clark know that he actually reads his articles regarding Superman.
Actually it's a great representation of Lex Luthor first appearance in comics. He was not bald, smart, millionaire and cold since the very begging, he was just a crazy redhead scientist. That's comic accuracy.
@@iancuspinera1160 Eh. But I still don't like Jesse Eisenberg's acting. My Goddamn family love to watch him in Zombieland. I only like Woody Harrelson. Look. The point is. Jesse has never put himself in a range were he can act like a different personality. Dude always plays himself. Which why BvS is my least favorite movie. I love Lex Luthor in the comics, Smallville and the cartoons. But I don't like The Riddler.
Batfleck is the best Batman for me, despite the director's mistakes in JL, but Ben's appearance in dawn of justice was epic ،I love the brutal, merciless version of Batman that kills enemies. This is what the Dark Knight should be, a source of fear for everyone
@@imed-ha77 maybe but some things are so fundamental that he wouldn't be Batman without them. If you're going to make him kill you may as well take away his ears and call him "Man".
I always liked this film. One little mistake with the "Martha" motivation switch, and the entire critical world comes down on this film like an avalanche.
@@JamesSZN01 like 99% of casual viewers upon seeing it for the first time, I thought nothing of it as the movie as a whole wasn't great and wasn't capturing my attention as well as other movies. You're actually looking pretty sad acting all ego talking about something less than half of people seeing it for the first time would notice either.
@@JamesSZN01 infact, the second reply to my comment was someone saying "I was wondering about that" meaning someone who is aligned with me replied before you even said anything. Starting to look more sad buddy
@@theriddler482because bale is a great actor in general and the movies were well written. Bale isn't comic book Batman at least not fully like here. So it's dumb to compare.
@@AvocadoBawlz-Johnson You ain't lying. This dialogue exchange is poor, but it's not the most awkward conversation I've heard. Regardless, this movie portrays both characters poorly. Clark is a child in an adult's body. Batman is gruff and miserable as BRUCE WAYNE. He's meant to contrast his alter ego, not nearly mirror it. Plus he seems to entertain the notion of using lethal force on someone who made it clear they're not out for blood. If Snyder wrote this, then call me blown away... The hype was fake as all can be.
@@galvinbrown2144 whatever you've said, we've already seen it before in previous movies. So repeating it wont be unique. In this movie, batman's been fighting criminals for 20 years. You cant expect him to stay bright and shiny and happy even when he's not batman. Watching and fighting against the worst kind of people the world has to offer will affect your mentality deeply. And I understand that that kind of a batman wouldn't let someone like Superman just roam around freely. He did save lives but also lose some. And the world doesn't actually know what kind of a person Superman is. For all they know, he could be an oversensitive person who'd start to rage and kill thousands even when something minor goes wrong. And in a way thats correct, like when Louis dies, Superman turns evil
I don't know why but Affleck's batman and Ledger's joker make more sense as an adaptation from comic book. They both could have done a much better job if they were to be in a solo superhero movie. Perfect hero and a perfect antagonist!
Jared Leto's Joker is a soundcloud rapper it would make no sense for him to have a solo film with Ben Affleck, Batman and Joker have always had a deep relationship and I somehow don't see Batfleck having a deep relationship with DAMAGED TATTOO NIGHTCLUB OWNER.
Ben affleck will always be the best batman to me, his bruce wayne made the most sense to me, exactly how i pictured a rich playboy bachelor to act like, partnered with the veteran “tired of bullshit” batman he portrayed, it was the perfect batman.
Cavill did a really good job at the whole “mild mannered” Clark Kent here, Affleck’s Batman is just so good you don’t even notice it- which is exactly a Clark Kent move
I actually really love this version of lex luther. He feels like an egocentric genius whose mind has been totally broken by knowledge of aliens and planetary threats and everything else, it's an expression of his hopelessness in a world of superheros and monsters.
Previous portrayals of Bruce Wayne I have looked at and just scene actors playing a role, but something about Affleck really stands out to me. The way he talks with Cavil, I really feel like I am watching Bruce Wayne talk to Clark Kent and I absolutely love that!
I hate when people say Ben Affleck was fat during this movie. You can tell by the cut of his suit that he was pretty well put together during the filming of BvS. Plus he is the most comic accurate depiction of Bruce Wayne (minus the killing) ever.
Getting ripped isnt practical as Batman. Getting fit and building strength is more important, and I would say Batman was just about done right. Defining fine curves and having mirror friendly finish, is sports of Bodybuilding.
I’ve never related to a youtube comment so much. Especially since usually when someone asks me my name I ALSO go on a rant about paradoxes and power and then thanking people for coming. So weird the things you find you relate with people, online!
My favorite part about this is that everyone in this scene knows who each other are except each other. Bruce knows who Clark is but doesn’t k ow that Clark knows he’s Batman. Clark knows he’s Batman but doesn’t know he knows and Lex knows who each of them are without knowing that they know he’s the bad guy. It’s great Another note is his attitude towards Lex. Bruce knows who Clark is and he can barely stand to talk to him. He also knows that Lex is a criminal and can easily shake his hand and smile at him. Shows how much Bruce truly hates superman at this time.
dont lie to yourself bro. In the movie "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice," when Bruce Wayne (Batman) and Clark Kent (Superman) first meet at Lex Luthor's function, neither of them is aware of each other's secret identities. At this point in the story, both characters were still operating in their civilian personas. Then later during their fight clark scans Batman with his vision and notices its Bruce wayne. This shows that SUPERMAN/CLARK discovered bruce identity before bruce did to his. Bruce connected dots after seeing lois lane , martha . but superman was the first to know the other. THEN FOR LEXT LUTHOR , LEX KNEW bruce and clark as batman and superman respectively
@@mueletechClark knew Bruce was batman when he heard him alfred over the earpiece. Which is why he confronted him in this scene. Clark knew before but Bruce didn’t.
@@master-of-mind5881"freaks dressed like clowns" while the overall jab is at Joker, he's hinting that Superman's outfit is ridiculous as, well. He gives them that glare bc he KNOWS that's Superman.
Batman: you want to know how I defeated superman? Justice League: How? Batman: Superman has one weakness, not the kryptonite, deep down, Clark is essentially a good person and I am not.
@@dalic24 you’re forgetting that this is literally a man who fights crime for 50+ years bc his parents were shot in an alleyway. His psychology is fucked, so just the mention of his moms name (which he thinks about all the time and visits) is obviously going to shock him. This whole time, he thinks Superman is an alien who just does good deeds but the humanization of him having a mom and a girl who loves him iswhat changes his mind, and realizing he was manipulated by lex Luther because in his mind, he thought he was killing a ticking time bomb, and he’s more aggressive than ever and the whole movie shadows this (Batman killls and brands people, Alfred is disappointed in him) so he flips bc he realizes “I am not the good guy in this situation. This is not what my parents wanted from me” he realized he’s an actual monster
Love the easter eggs in these movies. When Bruce said, "The Daily Planet...wait do I own this one or is that the other guy?", that made me think of the post-crisis comics where he bought the Daily Planet...
He's so damn rich he lost track of the stuff owned by Wayne Enterprises 😂 "Master Wayne tomorrow night is the annual dinner with the board members and employees and their families of the Gotham VFX Media" "Digital what? Are we into movies special effects now? Since when?!" "Well you were one of those who gave the start up funds sir....5 years and 3 months and 9 days ago tomorrow Master Wayne...You said they were pioneers and deserved a chance" "5 years and...oh yeah they were held hostage by Two F....Harv....when he blew.... himself....." (Bruce has flashes of Harvey, Two Face, and then of when Two Face kills himself) "I could have....should have...." "Bruce...?" "I'll be late for patrol Alfred. Just pack the dinner I'll eat while on auto pilot....I gotta get ready the bat-boat....See you at the docking bay"
at 3:30 notice when Alfred says file transfer is complete, Clark looks straight into Bruce because he can damn well hear what alfred said with his super hearing and knew something was fishy
Am I missing something or was this just really obvious and intended to be clear as water to show exactly what was going on? not a subtle detail or something that you have to actively notice
@@lucas11001 i know im not that smart to be the only one to notice that, i mean, he did follow bruce downstair before being interrupted by the news broadcast
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Lex: “You should not pick a fight with this person.”
Bruce internally: “I’m still gonna”
Lex internally: "I'm still gonna."
@@TheDuckOfManyThings Doomsday: "I'm still gonna kill"
Steppenwolf: Mother said I still have to
@@I-speak-U-shut-it doomsday has no internal thoughts, his sole purpose in the universe is to destroy all life lol
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Also Lex: "You know what? I like it; you have my support!"
"We have a bad history with Freaks dressed like Clowns." is the most brutal damage Bruce Wayne can deliver to Clark besides shooting his face with Kryptonite Gas.
Agreed
Yea that line is immaculate 🙌🏽 I went “Oooohhhhh shit!”
Hello There.
General Kenobi, when’s you’re show gonna air? We’ve been waiting , don’t tell me you’ve been out smoking Deathsticks
General Kenobi! You are a bold one! Kill him!
After watching 2 seasons of the Boys, this makes you understand Bruce's point even more...
“Well well well... if it ain’t the alien cunt!”
@@DocLithium
“William! What a wonderful surprise!” :D
You guys are the real heroes.
Yesss
I haven’t watched that show, can you explain?
The back and forth is amazing. Clark goes in on Bruce. Bruce fires right back. Instead of another cutting response, Clark looks like he's seriously considering what Bruce just said. Like "This is a point of view I hadn't thought of. I need to go to the fortress of solitude and mull this over for a week". Love the contrast between these two.
It would have been better if Bruce was just straight forward laid it to him "I lost a lot of good people, employees, and friends the day that alien decided to use metropolis as his boxing ring" and it would have destroyed Clark. Because he would understand all those off-screen deaths that are a direct result of his actions (Especially since he accidentally led Zod to earth).
@@Darklarik3 Plus, "The daughter of one of my employees became an orphan that day because of him."
@@Darklarik3 i would have loved this, too
@@Darklarik3 Problem is Bruce is too emotionally invested to say something like that. And Clark is extremely aware of how many people got killed.
"In your dreams, Alfred..."
Man, I really like Jeremy Irons as Alfred. His attitude, his humor, his loyalty to Bruce and his intelligence
My favourite moment of his is the scene when he comes back to the house with the chopped wood
Seeing the Kapitol bombing aftermath, and realizing Bruce is out for blood. That he failed to save him
That scene was so heart wrenching
Not my favorite adaptation of Lex but I'm fine with it. It worked for me.
@@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ Same, I love that scene. The Ultimate Edition is one of my favorite movies.
Given he was one of the few characters in the movie that actually felt like a person with emotions, yeah. He made me blow air out of my nose
@@Ismael-kc3ry In the Ultimate edition they all felt like character with emotions
It was hard for the theatrical to achieve that considering they cut the context out of most of the character arcs
Jeez when lex slapped Clark's chest it sounded like he hit a wall
I heard it too 😂😂😂😂😂
Man of *steel*
U mean the riddler slapped Clark’s Kent chest
3:07 damn
an appropriate sound.
I like how Bruce goes from acting like he has no clue what the Daily Planet is, to criticising their support of Superman, as soon as the conversation becomes about whether Batman is above the law
So dope! He drops the act!!
Same, I like how you could see in his eyes that he boils over internally at the idea of Clark talking about the Batman like he's some criminal. As in Bruce's eyes, he's seen and experienced the worst of the criminal underworld countless times and has been hardened by it all. Superman can destroy half a city and cause the deaths of thousands just to take down one man, but Batman beats up some thugs in the night and he's treated like some kind of villain. He pokes holes in Clark's idealism and reveals his hypocrisy with just a few sentences.
he switches from acting like bruce wayne to being batman.
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Triggered
2:09 that look of "getting tired of this shit" at Ben's face, this scene is brilliant.
I think he realized Clark is Superman
@@larrydalobster3548he definitely knew
@@mcsquilliams7044 they both realized who they were at that very moment you could tell.
Wruce Wayne is #LiterallyMe! #LMAO! #Rizz 😂😂😂
@@mcsquilliams7044 you think so?
Is it just me or when Bruce says "freaks dressed like clowns" you hear his Batman voice come out?
I hear it too
Mustangblue08
Don’t forget that Batman and Bruce are different people. And Batman himself considers himself to be Batman and Bruce Wayne is his secret identity/mask. He is always Batman unless he has to put on a show and act like Bruce Wayne, the playboy billionaire. The whole time he was talking to Clark, he was supposed to act like Bruce Wayne, but you could hear and feel all of the Batman pouring out during the whole conversation he had with Clark once he mentioned Superman. And I love how you can tell he’s trying to hold back the Batman side in him during that conversation and retain mostly the Bruce Wayne side. It was all about to come out once the “freaks dressed like clowns” line came in, but Lex simply being there saved it and he went back to his Bruce Wayne side. Not completely though. His words started getting more towards Bruce Wayne, but his demeanor stays Batman. That’s how you know Batman feels strongly about how much he doesn’t want Superman around. Ben Affleck plays this role so well especially since how he plays him is more accurately how Batman is in the comics even with the older more experienced Batman they were going for. That’s why Ben Affleck was my favorite actor to play Batman, but I have a feeling that’ll change next year when Robert Pattinson dons the cowl because he seems like he’s going to share a lot of the qualities Affleck did when playing Batman, but amplify that 100x.
Homeboy_Brando Bale was the perfect batman affleck played batman well but this batman was way different then others
mahi zen
Not really. Affleck’s Batman was more comic accurate than other live action portrays. Bale’s Batman was actually one of the most different. Ben Affleck’s was different compared to the others because he was the most like Batman when it comes to live action actors. Bale’s Batman had mediocre fighting for someone who trained with the League of Assassins and knows 127 different forms of martial arts, and for the “World’s Greatest Detective” he definitely had a lot of that work done for him by Fox. Ben Affleck’s Batman does great with fighting, and though not amazing detective work, it’s still the best that has been shown in live action. The way he plays Bruce, older Bruce remember that, is also more accurate to how Batman really is. Different doesn’t mean better.
@@Homeboy_Brando like crushing someones head with a crate
I have to say Affleck nailed this entire scene. A man amongst boys. The range of emotions he needs to deliver in this entire scene alone proves how talented he is. He goes from deceiving to confrontational to being deceived effortlessly.
Honestly, the DCEU could've been better if they waited 10 years to do Justice League 3 or so
Batfleck and Cavill were just wasted potential. They could’ve been some of the best cinematic versions of their characters due to their appearances and solid acting skills. If only they didn’t star in movies that ranged from mediocre to just downright shitty (lookin at you, justice league)
Affleck was the bomb in phantoms
why does he appear so bored in justice league? I guess he really didn't like being cheerful and pathetic in that movie. Wish snyder made him a badass in snyder cut like how he was here
@@thabreez456 The batman in Justice league was all Joss whedons. We haven't seen Snyders Justice League batman yet.
Bruce didn't want to talk to Clark. He was trying to avoid attention. But Clark insisted, almost pushed him to the point where he says "Alright kid, you wanted this" with his eyes.
That's every reporter out there 😂
@@sidvyas9810 Just came off a video of reporters pestering Tyson Fury. You're so right.
Clark already knows the true identity of Bruce. He's superman of course.
@@TheStraightestWhitest no bro because Someone will catch him lacking
Like someone will catch him on road and someone will speak and do what feels necessary that’s all I’m gonna say public whys but obviously I will catch him slipping I will film him you’ll see a video in like a year confronting ginger gafer I got a team looking into where he chills xx
@@VARJAGAMINGENTERTAINMENT I don’t think so. This is the first he met Bruce either in or out of costume.
Lex Luthor is me when it's come to public speaking
I am a natural orator and, could speak to 100K ppl.........they just wouldn't like the dialog when it started.
He's literally Mark Zuckerberg
@@hearthatbirdmore like max Landis
He just like me frfr🗿
bro was made for that role@@hearthatbird
I love how Superman hides his identity by putting on glasses.. Imagine:
*Lex:* Superman, I am a genius-level intellec-
**Clark puts on glasses**
*Lex:* Where'd he go?
NeoSlayer 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
NeoSlayer oh they just vanish right......
Well..... That's rude
NeoSlayer wow this comment cracked me way more than usual
“Pretty girl, bad habit, don’t quote me, alright?” Love that 😂😂
I still don't why he said that
Some Asshole you don’t understand the line?
Anna G I really don’t idk maybe it’s just me it’s so random
Some Asshole he trying to keep his cover so he puts on his “Bruce Wayne the playboy” persona. Sees Diana, doesn’t want Clark or others to think there’s something shifty about the situation. So acts like her being a distraction of his focus was simply Bruce Wayne checking out the beautiful woman. It’s like how Christian bales Bruce always had a girl on his arm in the Nolan trilogy
Some Asshole he said it because he was staring at her because he was after her. Clark noticed so to remain unsuspicious he said that.
Is it me or does Alfred look like a future version of Robert Downey junior
Nope, don't ruin Alfred for us
Nah, that's Jeremy Irons playing Alfred, from _Die Hard With A Vengeance_
Oh god i was about to said that
Same lol 😂
MCU tard detected
That freaks dressed like clowns line was still a hard ass bar and reference
Yeah
For real. That line was hard. Brilliant! Love Ben
Bruce calling Clark son was a brilliant touch
So now we know Diana is a grandma and Clark’s father is Batman🤔
Exelero92 to be fair Diana is way older then Bruce
Why?
Diana is the one of the oldest JL member
LionSperanto she calls him a little boy too
"Maybe it's the Gotham City in me, we just have a bad history with freaks dressed like clowns."
He sounds like Batman voice in that line
@@hariskhanevilboy898 he was edging into it talking to Kent
@@hariskhanevilboy898 Yes
He is the biggest freak in Gotham dressed like a bat always get his ass gets kicked by the clown😂
@@saibalne5631 No
Bruce: “The Daily Planet, wait do I own this one? Or is it the other guy”
Great nod to Oliver Queen. Only other popular billionaire in DC universe
@@redassassinyt4908 it isn’t 🤡🤡🤡
I think that was probably a reference to The Daily Planet's competitor, The Daily Star. Like, "Do I own this newspaper company, or do I own the other guy?"
@@kyguy3242 🤡🤡🤡
@@DK-gl3ih stfu you dumbass
@@DK-gl3ih lol somebody's overly sensitive about this minor detail from a comic book movie. Who's the real clown? 🤔
Ben Affleck already has that Batman smirk instill within him. Like at 1:56 or the subtle smirk at 2:27. He’s the perfect guy to play Bruce Wayne/Batman. Not only in looks, but persona wise as well. A shame we never got any standalone Batfleck.
Why isn't no one noticing the wonder woman cameo when he says pretty woman at 1:53
Also to me, around 2:10 Bruce realized that he was talking to Superman, but after a second he looked away to not tip off Clark.
@@jerrylewis788 I don't think he realized it. It was just him getting pissy over the Daily Planet, a paper that simps for Superman, criticizing his city and Batman.
If he figured it out then, he would have known everything about Clark before they fought and he never would have been surprised his adopted moms name was Martha.
Ben has a great personality and voice that suits Bruce Wayne
It is spelled "Smerk"
“Don’t believe everything you hear son” made Clark look like a straight chump 😂
But he actually is. The guy didn't even know who Bruce Wayne was.
@@igor20igor Well considering Clarks only been in the big cities for a couple of years I don't blame him being out of touch when Bruce is almost a recluse in this universe, but he still a news reporter so idk why he just never knew what he even looked like💀😂
@@don_lefleur doesn't Bruce own the place where he works?
I still don't understand how he knew Batman is Bruce Wayne when they first fought.
@@rudy1999 Bruh Superman has X ray visions. Where have you been, not knowing his basic powers?
"We just have a bad history with freaks dressed like clowns." That line still gives me chills and it makes his interaction with the Joker in Snyder's JL so much better.
Not just the joker.
i know exactly what you mean. when i heard that line for the first time i got up from my seat and stood in silence for 15 minutes.
This guys getting chills watching a 🗑synder Movie, truly a walking L.
Nah, I think you're just wrong and stupid. "That line still gives me chills" 🤓
how about u make an interaction with some bitches 😹
Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne character is so on point. He really looks like he can't stand being in the crowd or with people, he learned a couple of phrases to use when interacting and also he looks like he was practiced his smile in the mirror. Just that change in his face on 0:53 is perfect example . I really got a sense that his Bruce Wayne really trying to hold it together as much as he can.
Underrated comment and analysis.
Yeah, Bruce Wayne spend time working alone in the Dark that it have become part of him, Bruce Wayne is just his mask in the public.
Worst fucking Batman actor lol I hate Ben but hey it’s just an opinion like yours…..we are both wrong
What are you talking about? He's a genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist, martial artist hence he need not practice how to smile or interact with strangers.
0:55
It's crazy to think everyone might've knew eachothers alter persona in this scene. Lex obviously knows Clark is Superman maybe Bruce as Batman as well. Clark hears Alfred in Bruce's headset. Bruce initially plays coy then attacks Clark with his Daily Planet sentiments. Wish WB let Zack go about his plan as he had wanted to.
man those idiots. they want woke movies just like marvel to lose more money if thye still have some
They could have had a rebooted universe at this rate if they had just let Zack Snyder do his thing.
@@jemmellpyron2527 true
Fucking loved this movie and man of steel. Always like the seriousness.
@Jemmell Pyron Yep. All we're asking is to finish the Snyderverse then Jamea Gunn can do his DCU as they reboot. Done.
Lex is me in party trying to socialize while awkwardly hiding my social anxiety
@Keys andFood yes
Hate that lex Luthor just absolutely cringe
"because that's paraDOXICAL-"
I wanna kill myself
Yea basically us
@@dominicviner6619 'And ah...heheheha...*thank you for coming* end me
@@J1283-s1k
Yeah idk just turn it down a notch theres some moments he does a good job
The "you had an hour. No you have less." Line was good I thought
Idk it's just too much
They were just lowkey dissing each other and they both knew 🤣🤣 cleanest shit ever
Ong
@kill dANo Bruce Wayne most def knew, hes the greatest detective in the world after all. The way he talks to Clark and looks him up and down at 2:52 as says "...Freaks dressed as clowns", he most def know
@@DukBurd Ur right, he knew.
@@DukBurd 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@thewolverine5895 so your saying they both knew each other identities that moement or supes knew before
Why isn't anyone talking about Alfred's line? haha "In your dreams, Alfred."
@The No.1 Guy yeah no shit. I feel like I should jump for joy.
what's so great about it..?
yea what's he even talking about
@@Somalia690 He's muttering to himself in response to telling bruce to find a woman up stairs to keep his attention for a while. "in your dreams, Alfred (like that would actually happen)"
Canadian Ninja like as in alfred would never get a girl or bruce would never get one
I still love this scene. I never noticed Clark's reactions before. He really hasn't heard that some people think of him as a threat and it's cutting like a kryptonite knife.
I quite like the opposite thing they have here too. Clark feels like he's not doing enough Superman-ing and Bruce is doing too much Batman-ing and they are both viewed in the same light: terrorists
Superman รักนาเดียร์เป็นแฟนฉันค่ะชอบวิดีโอมาก
Ben Affleck was outstanding as Batman. I just wish he had his own film before Man of Steel
Snyder wanted to do a batman movie then man of steel 2 but warnerbros said no
@@zakichan851 Where did you hear that?
@@zakichan851 its the opposite, he wanted to portray them all in a single team up first before writing their origin story. He didn't want to go the marvel way. Look at the pre BVS interviews where people thought bat's intro was too ear;y
he is, just the batman killing part ruins his role(not that its his fault)
@@zakichan851 facts
2:10 that Bat-glare...
Lol, he looks likes he’s gonna give supes a beating and he did.
Not a lot of people are noticing that!!😭
the perfect batman by far.
@@burningfury4065 lmao
@@burningfury4065 LOL he barely did and superman basically let him in the most idiotic way.
1:47 The first time in live action history, Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman in one shot together.
never realized it. really cool
That's Diana Prince, Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent. Whatcha talking about?
@@generationultra6718
R/whoosh
It’s Fast Gadot, Gamer Cavill and Batfleck
what about the fight against Doomsday?
@@jorel3581 Thats later on in the movie. This is the first shot of them together
I really loved this scene. Cavil and Affleck were an amazing clark kent and Bruce Wayne
Man, how Affleck nails Bruce Wayne in such a short scene makes me angry that his solo outing didn't pan out. He could've easily gone over the top to distinguish Bruce from Batman, but no, instead he takes a lot more subtle route. The way his mannerisms switch instantly when Mercy comes in is just awesome.
Even his face is entirely different. What an underrated actor.
To describe both Affleck and Cavill's retirement from Batman and Superman as heartbreaking would be an understatement... It's seriously depressing...
@@itlog.sa.chicken this movie made me don't see "oh it's not Ben Afleck, it's Bruce Wayne and Batman out there"
But in josstice League "oh it's Ben Afleck and some cringe jokes of Joss Whedon", thank god zsjl exists.
@@Draiter yeah man.
@@cauaviniciusguedes2004 you can’t even form a grammatically correct sentence and you think you’re allowed to criticize the art that is movie production? Get the fuck out of here. If you made a movie, it would be worse than literally any movie we’ve ever seen. So shut the fuck up and be thankful you have movies to keep your spoiled little ass entertained instead of fighting for survival against lions or fighting against unfair living conditions of early civilization.
BVS dialogue was better than JL. Even the cinematography is superior...
the movie was horrible and had bad pacing, then they did justice league and it was even worse, they just keep destroying DC with these awful movies :c the justice league deserves a better movie
@@Jolmev did you watch the ultimate cut
@@eliasndeleon nope, is it worth watching?
@@Jolmev Tell me why it was so bad, 1-10 what would you give it ?
@@34blank like a 4, it has a bad pacing, still fun to watch but not gonna watch it twice, flash is great, but the rest of them aren't
"Don't believe everything you hear, son." Love that.
Max Frankow yup love the way he says "son" trying to say "you haven't seen quarter of the hell I've been through". I love this movie!!
Love the "son" especially because Bruce quite older than Clarke here
Max Frankow this is cringey
probably the most hackneyed trash throwaway line in a movie i've seen in years.
@@porassrivastava8242 It's more because this version of Bruce is 12 years older than Clark...which is stupid to begin with.
Seems like Ben is smirking on this scene at 2:07😆
This is probably the most charismatic portrayal of Bruce Wayne
I will always think that Christian Bale played a better Bruce Wayne than Ben Affleck, but If I ever wanted to make an argument that Ben was better, this is the scene I'd use. (Ben defo played Batman better tho)
@@micromashington I agree. This scene is great but Christian sold me on Bruce Wayne.
I think the warehouse fight is, obviously, the best live action Batman fight ever on film but this scene feels like Bruce Wayne more than any other actor, as well.
It’s an unpopular opinion but I think Ben did it best in this movie (I haven’t seen Justice League, though)
@@micromashington Bale makes a great young Bruce Wayne while Affleck is a better cynical aged Bruce Wayne imo. The fact that he doesn't even try that much to maintain the playboy facade compared to Bale Bruce Wayne shows how tired he is. Now we just need Keaton to play Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne and we'll have a full house.
Christian Bale plays the best Bruce Wayne by far
Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill are my favorite portrayals of Bruce Wayne/Batman & Clark Kent/Superman!
Hope this Snyder version can do Afleck justice
stolen comment i have seen this everywhere
Empire Fan 101 bruh he’s horrible wut is wrong with u
I wish bale would’ve been this Batman as well
If anyone really watched the Batman Animated Series he's Affleck height
If Lex didn't interrupt these two, I swear Bruce would have been all "I know who you are, ALIEN. We're not in a comic book. Your glasses don't fool a single cell of my brain."
"not many has the chin cleavage, yours is a bit plum unlike mine, i recognize it"
That's down their with "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck" in terms of unbelievably bad dialogue.
That depends. Pete Holmes Batman says otherwise
Zod travels back 200 years in time to save krypton
I have to agree with that.Clark Kent has a lame attempt at a disguise to keep people from knowing that he's Superman.
he keeps his top secret data servers unlocked next to the kitchen 🤣🤣🤣 brilliant
right?
Well as per the story, it was Lex's plan all along and he wanted Bruce to take that data so maybe it makes sense to hv it in a less safe place lol.
@@Mohit_Yadav168 haha right so move all the data servers next to the kitchen. That's some pre planing!
@@Mohit_Yadav168 That actually makes a lot of sense. I never thought of that. He was baiting him.
This Batman vs Superman verbal spar is better than the entire Justice League movie.
Fax
Josstice league
True, but that's still not saying much.
Not justice league,but jostice league
@@xingyang101 but this is a pretty good film though
“We just have a bad habit of freaks dressed like clowns” damn I love that scene
Arthur fleck reference
@@boiboiboi1419 joker isn't part of the dceu
@@mikesmith145 oh really? does jared leto joker dressed like clown? arthur fleck is part of dceu and DC is playing with us
boiboiboi lol what proof do you have
@@boiboiboi1419 Arthur Fleck isn't a part of DCEU dumbass, Ben Afflecks Batman fought Dead shot in Suicide Squad where YA guessed it LETO'S Joker is a CHARACTER.
1:37 - song starts - night and day
Such detailing. Amazing.
Wow. Nice catch.
Good eye m8!
So good, only one person ever noticed it...
@@SireGoose841 u mean ears?
Singed by Frank Sinatra
The way ben affleck change his voice when he told clark can go crazy
Bruce: We just have a bad history with freaks dressed like clowns.
Lex: Boys! Mmm!.....
Clark: Speaking of freaks and clowns.
Suvir Sinha joker reference there
Me: OH, the son of gene hackman and heath ledger is here people.
LOL!
@@pancheeetee ikr
😂😂😂😂
Clark got really upset when Bruce addressed him as freak dressed as clown. After all his father gave him that suit.
No he was talking about the joker saying we have a problem with freaks dressed like clowns in Gotham to explain why they keep Batman around
@@justsomedudewithnoneck8329 Yeah, but he said "freaks". He addressed superman, joker maybe many other characters as "freaks dressed as clowns".
Yuvraj Oberoi he had to be talking bout the joker because if we go with your side of things doesn’t that mean he is included
@@justsomedudewithnoneck8329 😂😂 he is as dumb as he dresses
You are not really into DC Comics right?
Imagine if Diana reacted immediately when Bruce was talking to Clark
Bruce: "Wow, pretty girl, bad habit."
Diana: "Excuse me??"
Batman vs Superman vs Wonder Woman
If this was realistisc
She did which is why she stole his shit and made sure he knew the pretty girl took it.
She'd get her ass kicked because she's the weakest of the 3
Totally believable this day and age. Wonder woman would also be wearing yoga pants
I thought she was with you
2:05 do i own this or is that the other guy😂😂 he was basically telling him to direct his attention toward lex 😂😂😂😂😂in the most openly suble way
Say what you want about the film. But Ben Affleck's performance was great.
Apollo B. Better than bale
Apollo B. Right. EXCELLENT
for me he was the only good thing in that movie
I love both. I love ben as the older batman who has lost a lot and it shows.
Espada kurosaki he'd godly.... in what way?
The thing about Batman is everything he does is theoretically possible.
also Ben Afleck is 100% Old Fuck Miserable BatMan.
Darth Pancake Studios
You’re leaving out the part where he was trained by the league of shadows and is an actual billionaire with ridiculous resources, but yeah it’s fiction
@@JuveX0 Yes being Batman is actually possible. Maybe you can't be Batman for very long but it is actually possible according to studies. Don't believe me.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/07/19/becoming-batman-may-not-be-as-crazy-as-it-sounds%3fcontext=amp
@Darth Pancake Studios Cool. He still is the most realistic Superhero there is.
@Darth Pancake Studios Hmm. Maybe. But Batman is definitely in the top 5 or 10 I guess if we are talking about DC and Marvel.
I like Ben afflecks eye movement while in this scene. You can tell he is hiding anger
Such great acting
Bruce was 100% right to not trust Superman initially. Until they discovered the Kryptonite there was literally nothing anyone would be able to do to stop Superman if he went rogue. The world had seen just how much devastation a Kryptonian can do. Bruce was absolutely right in saying "if there is even a 1% chance he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty", because you can't take chances when you're dealing with a being as powerful as Superman.
Why didn’t Batman save earth from the kryptonians? Batman is nothing without kryptonite! Superman stopped Zod from turning earth into krypton killing everyone on the planet! Batman is a criminal he tortures other criminals for pleasure
First of all there was literally nothing he could do at the time.2,he doesn't torture criminals for entertainment he scares them off because he doesn't want anyone to go through the same or similar trauma he went through as a child.@y8qb4rj1d
@@Cesar-t6x Plus he doesn't know that Superman is on the same side yet thats why hes taking safety precautions.
One of the most braindead comments i've ever seen. Cry harder, edgy.
what happen to this batman in Justice league :(
Hafiq Shamadi Joss happened
Hafiq Shamadi it wasn't justice league it was josstice league
He got sucked into The Avengers DC Edition
People complained about him being too dark
@@Kiiieeechiii you mcu fans
I love this scene. Affleck kills the Bruce Wayne persona
Kalen Chatman not in justice league tho
Brandon Mejia not his fault those wb morons tried to make him into a mcu character instead they ruined Bruce Wayne Bruce is serious all the time and only laughs and makes jokes every blue moon and even then it's dry humor.
Kalen Chatman problem is your watch Christian Bale and then watch Afleck and then realise that he is average
@Nguyễn Hải Dương if average=best ever then yes.
I prefer christian bales version of playboy billionaire Bruce Wayne.
This Ben Affleck as Batman was so badass.
Hopefully Rob can keep it alive.
@Mark Steven
We need the Snyder cut of Justice League first.
Frankly, I pity Christian for all the laryngitis he must have gotten. There's a reason Kevin Conroy changed his way of differentiating Batman and Bruce as the DCAU rolled on.
christian bale is only batman
Mark Steven how tf was it cringe
Mark Steven cringe? Batfleck was terrifying
4:05 you get out the shower and your girl has your phone 😭😭😭
I love Jessie's performance but that is simply not Lex Luthor. Joker, Riddler, Mad Hatter sure....but Lex?
I Really liked this Lex. The only thing (with the Warenhouse fight, and the future Vision), I liked in this Movie. Anyway, the Best Lex Luthor Character for me, is in "young Justice". Since then, Lex is one of my Favorite Villians.
3 years later, and people still dont get the approach to Luthor in this movie, still going over people head, and to top it off they still compare it to characters that have literally zero to do with the characterization of the character in this movie
@M Smith He wasn't miscast if you've read the golden age and Birthright.
It's a different version of lex, deal
@M Smith "Batman Forever". He would have fit perfectly with riddler and two face lol =P
2:10
best part of this scene
Ben did the best face expression of anger, then he switched quickly.
yesss bro thank you i was looking for this comment
The clown line was such an amazing line, and it's delivered with expertise, But it's kinda ruined by Suicide Squad since this universes Joker is shit.
warner ruined the original cut of SS because of (as usual) retarded test audiences and test screenings, and amateur editing, if you remove the tattoos and give the original cut the SS movie is way better
the worst part is that they originally had a joker that was fucked like the one in the comics but they made him into some emo love fantasy bullshit.
Jared Leto isn't the Joker. He's Robin turned by the real Joker, Joaquin Phoenix. At least, that's what I am really hoping.
@@Movie_Games I hope so, I really love Joaquin Phoenix's portrayal so far (yeah the film hasn't come out, but he was really good in the trailer and it seems like he's devoted and cares about the role. Has it been confirmed that this Joker movie is part of the DCEU?
What is it with the DCEU changing their most iconic characters to try and be edgy?
i for one absolutely enjoyed letos joker and i believe if he was the main villain in that film (along with no studio interference and a decent writer) you would feel differently. Like many he was the only reason i went to see the movie in the first place, and when i realized he was not the villain and had, what? 6 min screen time? i flipped my shit. suicide squad was the downfall of DCEU they had SUCH an opportunity, they simply set asside their greatest asset for 6 minutes of showtime, and no writing whatsoever. it was an 1 1/2 movie trailer. they fucking reused the same shot twice, of deadshot, no edits lmao, THE. SAME. EXACT. SHOT. jared lettos joker was perfect for him, it was the producers, studio, and writers who dropped the ball
Bruce channels Jamie Lannister with that “Hypocritical” line at 2:25💯
To describe both Affleck and Cavill's retirement from Batman and Superman as heartbreaking would be an understatement... It's seriously depressing...
It doesn't even feel like a retirement, sorta like they weren't invited back. It sucks ass. -.-
Well they're back
Yeah cause despite what you think of the movies. This is like perfect casting.
Cavill as Superman is still up in the air. He's clearly still interested in the role and some people in WB have said that the DCEU can be open to Cavill's superman in the future, but there's no definite plan made for him.
Affleck as Batman though is totally done. Whatever personal shit he was going through in combination with the JL reshoots totally destroyed his interest to play Batman again. He's gonna play him in The Flash (2023) for one final time, but then he'll be gone. And the time travel used in the movie is gonna be Warner Bros' way to replace him with Micheal Keaton's Batman in the DCEU.
@@gamemediafan1714 That’s sad to hear. Affleck needed a much better chance to portray the Batman.
“You write a puff piece editorial about an alien who if he wanted to could burn the whole place down. There wouldn’t be a damn thing we could do to stop him”
Pretty much talking about brightburn
Brightburn would Kill Batman in seconds.
KINGRODP true as unlike superman who holds back and try to talk and let Batman use all weapon, brightburn would just instantly go for the kill
@@Ape_PONR woosh
Even Homelander.
Harry Bond yeah he’s the dumb shit , right
This is the reason we need The Snyder Cut
Won't surprise me if it fails again like this one.
@@rawnac5036 HA!!, comparing this shit to the dark knight? Next joke please
We got it.
but isnt snyder cut for justice league
I genuinely don’t think this s end is bad. What’s so bad about it
"I like those shoes"
Real smoothe there Mr. Wayne.
Her shoes were nice tho 🤷🏿♂️
"... freaks [dressed like clowns.] ..."
-Batfleck flexes his non synthesized Dark Knight voice. Whether intentional or not - simply brilliant. Adds so much weight to the most original epic hero dialogue.
Affleck’s vocal acting in this movie is incredible.
It’s Arthur fleck reference
@@boiboiboi1419 They didn't even start writing The Joker movie when this was in cinemas so NO it is not an Arthur Fleck reference, it's a Jared Leto Joker reference dumbarse.
I normally shit on DC movies but that line is just incredible
The “I like those shoes” scene might be my favourite Batfleck scene, and the scene that sold me on Ben as Batman. He does the playboy facade and drops it for his true mission focused persona expertly. Such a shame we didn’t get a solo Batfleck movie...
When he says, “...in support of books.” Classic! 😂
RandomShinigami7 we were about to but we’re running into Batmen
Love the fact that Lex is like atleast 1 foot shorter than both of them but still is dominate in the convesation.
In comics Luthor is tall as Clarke and muscled
@@jayadevmenon7086 he also isnt acting like the joker.
@@megamike15 yes
Jesse made a fool of himself
@@tiestokygoericprydz3963 Total miscast , it is shows out too much as both Bat and supes were kinda comic accurate
This is the pinnacle of DC right here.
1:12 - 1:18
Me whenever I have to present in front of the class
LOL
Wtf if i press on the number it will go to the time it represents?!?!
+@@EzraDair
Shit, I didn't know that either!!
@@EzraDair thanks man
Lmao! This is totally me! That's why I was never allowed to speak during a group presentation. 😂😂😂😂
It's 2022 and I still come back and watch this scene. I love how Bruce is playing dumb at first pretending he has no idea who Clark is or the Daily Planet, but then pulls a complete 180 and lets Clark know that he actually reads his articles regarding Superman.
2024, same.
1:33 Clark's face is like:
This guy is supposed to be my greatest enemy?
Actually it's a great representation of Lex Luthor first appearance in comics. He was not bald, smart, millionaire and cold since the very begging, he was just a crazy redhead scientist. That's comic accuracy.
I dissagree
He acts like he is the ridler
You go hang out with the actor that played him
Go ask him to tell you a ridler
@Ironclad that's why these movies fail, the man of Steele begging for help from a man he could kill with a snap of his finger
@@iancuspinera1160 Eh. But I still don't like Jesse Eisenberg's acting. My Goddamn family love to watch him in Zombieland. I only like Woody Harrelson.
Look. The point is. Jesse has never put himself in a range were he can act like a different personality. Dude always plays himself. Which why BvS is my least favorite movie. I love Lex Luthor in the comics, Smallville and the cartoons. But I don't like The Riddler.
@@I-speak-U-shut-it what makes you think that snyder cut will be any better than bvs
Batfleck is the best Batman for me, despite the director's mistakes in JL, but Ben's appearance in dawn of justice was epic ،I love the brutal, merciless version of Batman that kills enemies. This is what the Dark Knight should be, a source of fear for everyone
Exactly
Batman who kills people is just the punisher in a goofy costume.
@@danelisslow3269 It's good to see new things about Batman
@@imed-ha77 maybe but some things are so fundamental that he wouldn't be Batman without them. If you're going to make him kill you may as well take away his ears and call him "Man".
This looks more and more like a really good film as the years go on
I always liked this film. One little mistake with the "Martha" motivation switch, and the entire critical world comes down on this film like an avalanche.
This movie will get better and better as the years goes on.
That's the power of Zack Snyder
@Slippy Frog what about spiderman and blackpanther just showing up in civil war
@Slippy Frog literally just 2 minutes
@@austinj7015 ahhhh i watched it again the other day, just to check, and i'm afraid its still pretty bad... the plot is absolutely apeshit
I really like this sassy version of Alfred
Alucard BloodyVampire Alfred has always been like that.
Jean Rolon Exhibit A:
Bruce: You think you know everything about me, don’t you?
Alfred: I diapered your bottom; I bloody well ought to...SIR.
Laykan Dowdy Well your Wrong!!! (Drives off like a whiny teenager)
Jean Rolon not in dark knight trilogy, he is a servant
Alucard BloodyVampire no
3:30 I never knew why Clark turns his head here, but then I remembered he has super hearing and could hear Alfred the entire time.
Yeah baby
I was wondering about that
How did you miss that lmfao? were you paying attention when you watched the movie at all?
@@JamesSZN01 like 99% of casual viewers upon seeing it for the first time, I thought nothing of it as the movie as a whole wasn't great and wasn't capturing my attention as well as other movies. You're actually looking pretty sad acting all ego talking about something less than half of people seeing it for the first time would notice either.
@@JamesSZN01 infact, the second reply to my comment was someone saying "I was wondering about that" meaning someone who is aligned with me replied before you even said anything. Starting to look more sad buddy
The Batman TAS vibes in Ben’s performance doesn’t cease to amaze me. He was the best guy for the role.
Bale is so much worse I dont even know why people compare the two
@@theriddler482straight up
True
@@theriddler482because bale is a great actor in general and the movies were well written. Bale isn't comic book Batman at least not fully like here. So it's dumb to compare.
As a writer, I'll tell you right now... that's some smooth writing.
As a writer, I'll tell you right now... I completely agree.
As a fan of writers, I’ll tell you that you’re completely right.
You must be a shit writer.
@@AvocadoBawlz-Johnson You ain't lying. This dialogue exchange is poor, but it's not the most awkward conversation I've heard. Regardless, this movie portrays both characters poorly. Clark is a child in an adult's body. Batman is gruff and miserable as BRUCE WAYNE. He's meant to contrast his alter ego, not nearly mirror it. Plus he seems to entertain the notion of using lethal force on someone who made it clear they're not out for blood. If Snyder wrote this, then call me blown away... The hype was fake as all can be.
@@galvinbrown2144 whatever you've said, we've already seen it before in previous movies. So repeating it wont be unique. In this movie, batman's been fighting criminals for 20 years. You cant expect him to stay bright and shiny and happy even when he's not batman. Watching and fighting against the worst kind of people the world has to offer will affect your mentality deeply. And I understand that that kind of a batman wouldn't let someone like Superman just roam around freely. He did save lives but also lose some. And the world doesn't actually know what kind of a person Superman is. For all they know, he could be an oversensitive person who'd start to rage and kill thousands even when something minor goes wrong. And in a way thats correct, like when Louis dies, Superman turns evil
2:52 I love the way he looks down at Clark’s outfit as he says freaks dressed as clowns.
No
@@JuanCruz-jq9md ok
Bat roast
I think he was referring to joker!
@@randolphhicks8208 Bat Joke
I don't know why but Affleck's batman and Ledger's joker make more sense as an adaptation from comic book. They both could have done a much better job if they were to be in a solo superhero movie. Perfect hero and a perfect antagonist!
no, keep the batfleck and we now have joaquin phoenix as the joker. that would be perfect
Jared Leto's Joker is a soundcloud rapper it would make no sense for him to have a solo film with Ben Affleck, Batman and Joker have always had a deep relationship and I somehow don't see Batfleck having a deep relationship with DAMAGED TATTOO NIGHTCLUB OWNER.
Genius writing. An amazing scene all the actors nailed it.
Genius writing 😂😂😂😊
@@master-of-mind5881mcu fan here
Ben affleck will always be the best batman to me, his bruce wayne made the most sense to me, exactly how i pictured a rich playboy bachelor to act like, partnered with the veteran “tired of bullshit” batman he portrayed, it was the perfect batman.
Batman doesn't kill.
@@Lua0x07 old tired batman might
@@Lua0x07 he did in the original comics, Michael Keaton did, and Bale did a few times
@@Lua0x07 yes he does
@@Lua0x07 the arkham game series DEFINITELY killed some folks
Cavill did a really good job at the whole “mild mannered” Clark Kent here, Affleck’s Batman is just so good you don’t even notice it- which is exactly a Clark Kent move
@adreas# are u saying that Clark Kent was in batman movie?
1:19 Just realised thats one of the Hydra Agents in the elevator in Winter Soldier on the right
He's actually in a lot of movies :)
FlmKrp Shx holy crap your right...maybe he is under cover
@@keremkoc5446 he is here to sabotage the DCEU
@@NoNameDaGuy probably
FlmKrp Shx it is 😂 damn good eye
I actually really love this version of lex luther. He feels like an egocentric genius whose mind has been totally broken by knowledge of aliens and planetary threats and everything else, it's an expression of his hopelessness in a world of superheros and monsters.
“The bittersweet pain among men is having knowledge with no power because that’s paradoxical...” talking about Superman
Hes talking abt himself
@@Ojas97 except Superman is a genius in comics so no
Previous portrayals of Bruce Wayne I have looked at and just scene actors playing a role, but something about Affleck really stands out to me. The way he talks with Cavil, I really feel like I am watching Bruce Wayne talk to Clark Kent and I absolutely love that!
I hate when people say Ben Affleck was fat during this movie. You can tell by the cut of his suit that he was pretty well put together during the filming of BvS. Plus he is the most comic accurate depiction of Bruce Wayne (minus the killing) ever.
Clusteronandon give up the killing bullshit talk.
im glad he killed people
Eliot O'Boyce and yet every movie disrespected that rule
Getting ripped isnt practical as Batman. Getting fit and building strength is more important, and I would say Batman was just about done right. Defining fine curves and having mirror friendly finish, is sports of Bodybuilding.
Alpha Critic BWAHAHAHAHA REALLY HAHAHAHA
"I like those shoes" top tier Batman dialogue I love it. Getting caught sneaking and trying to play it off.
Crush: *”So what’s your name?”*
Me: 1:12
Hilarious...
Lmao
Underrated Comment 😂
I’ve never related to a youtube comment so much. Especially since usually when someone asks me my name I ALSO go on a rant about paradoxes and power and then thanking people for coming. So weird the things you find you relate with people, online!
🤣🤣
Clark prevented Bruce flirting with Diana
Probably saved Bruce’s life in the process too
raissa terto guess u can call Clark A SUPER COCK BLOCKER! lol
That's what actually started Bruce's hatred for superman.
That's when Clark crossed the line
raissa terto man of steal your girl...
I absolutely LOVE that “Night and Day” is playing from the band. Such a neat detail
Luthor is a sneaky bastard.
My favorite part about this is that everyone in this scene knows who each other are except each other. Bruce knows who Clark is but doesn’t k ow that Clark knows he’s Batman. Clark knows he’s Batman but doesn’t know he knows and Lex knows who each of them are without knowing that they know he’s the bad guy. It’s great
Another note is his attitude towards Lex. Bruce knows who Clark is and he can barely stand to talk to him. He also knows that Lex is a criminal and can easily shake his hand and smile at him. Shows how much Bruce truly hates superman at this time.
dont lie to yourself bro.
In the movie "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice," when Bruce Wayne (Batman) and Clark Kent (Superman) first meet at Lex Luthor's function, neither of them is aware of each other's secret identities. At this point in the story, both characters were still operating in their civilian personas. Then later during their fight clark scans Batman with his vision and notices its Bruce wayne. This shows that SUPERMAN/CLARK discovered bruce identity before bruce did to his. Bruce connected dots after seeing lois lane , martha . but superman was the first to know the other.
THEN FOR LEXT LUTHOR , LEX KNEW bruce and clark as batman and superman respectively
@@mueletechClark knew Bruce was batman when he heard him alfred over the earpiece. Which is why he confronted him in this scene. Clark knew before but Bruce didn’t.
@@master-of-mind5881"freaks dressed like clowns" while the overall jab is at Joker, he's hinting that Superman's outfit is ridiculous as, well. He gives them that glare bc he KNOWS that's Superman.
The Cinematography, The Story, The Dialogues, The Fights
This movie is just perfect
Not the word I’d use
I’d call it a masterpiece
@@ivanduck77-gamesandvideore55 You ain't wrong
@F. Fredburger95 Nice catch
@NILAY SHARMA The only reasonable comment so far.
Batman: you want to know how I defeated superman?
Justice League: How?
Batman: Superman has one weakness, not the kryptonite, deep down, Clark is essentially a good person and I am not.
Batman Hush .
He said save Martha to me and i was your mom's name is like my mom's name. Now we are friends let's fight together
@@darkember849 nah it is a bad movie i am not a fan boy eating every shit hollywood servers me.
@@dalic24 you’re forgetting that this is literally a man who fights crime for 50+ years bc his parents were shot in an alleyway. His psychology is fucked, so just the mention of his moms name (which he thinks about all the time and visits) is obviously going to shock him. This whole time, he thinks Superman is an alien who just does good deeds but the humanization of him having a mom and a girl who loves him iswhat changes his mind, and realizing he was manipulated by lex Luther because in his mind, he thought he was killing a ticking time bomb, and he’s more aggressive than ever and the whole movie shadows this (Batman killls and brands people, Alfred is disappointed in him) so he flips bc he realizes “I am not the good guy in this situation. This is not what my parents wanted from me” he realized he’s an actual monster
@@dalic24 you’re just an idiot
Whether you liked this movie or not, it’s so cool to see a Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne greeting each other for the first time in live action.
batman vs superman gets better every time i see it again, love this movie
That’s true
"My R&D is up to all sorts of no good." Well at least he's honest.
LOL I just noticed Bruce calling Diana 'pretty girl', cute.
1:56 Pretty girl, Bad habit
Wonderbat forever
It's cute, yeah. In Justice League, you can see a mutual affection develop between Bruce and Diana.
She would break his arm for that comment.
@Limau Purut Yeah, and you're so nice to look at yourself
Love the easter eggs in these movies. When Bruce said, "The Daily Planet...wait do I own this one or is that the other guy?", that made me think of the post-crisis comics where he bought the Daily Planet...
Deo Robinson I thought it was supposed to be a reference to Oliver Queen.
steelersguy74 same that’s what I thought too
He's so damn rich he lost track of the stuff owned by Wayne Enterprises 😂
"Master Wayne tomorrow night is the annual dinner with the board members and employees and their families of the Gotham VFX Media"
"Digital what? Are we into movies special effects now? Since when?!"
"Well you were one of those who gave the start up funds sir....5 years and 3 months and 9 days ago tomorrow Master Wayne...You said they were pioneers and deserved a chance"
"5 years and...oh yeah they were held hostage by Two F....Harv....when he blew.... himself....." (Bruce has flashes of Harvey, Two Face, and then of when Two Face kills himself)
"I could have....should have...."
"Bruce...?"
"I'll be late for patrol Alfred. Just pack the dinner I'll eat while on auto pilot....I gotta get ready the bat-boat....See you at the docking bay"
blaze comics
at 3:30 notice when Alfred says file transfer is complete, Clark looks straight into Bruce because he can damn well hear what alfred said with his super hearing and knew something was fishy
Am I missing something or was this just really obvious and intended to be clear as water to show exactly what was going on? not a subtle detail or something that you have to actively notice
@@lucas11001 i know im not that smart to be the only one to notice that, i mean, he did follow bruce downstair before being interrupted by the news broadcast
@@lucas11001 yeah seriously I was just like and...
Yeah but Bruce knew he heard.
"I’m assuming you’re Alfred."