bismarck didnt actually want a united germany he just did it so austria wouldnt and in the end he wanted it to basically be entirely controlled by prussia
@@justalonetraveler2769 he didnt go to war with france france went to war with prussia before that they only had the north german confederation bc they didnt want catholics
Imagine if Velimir unifies Russia at the time. He'd be like "I always knew that Asiatic Germans aren't true Aryans, pity that moron Vagner didn't witness it himself"
It's interesting, because in real life, Frick was specifically talking about Hitler with that quote, whereas in this alternate version, he says "we." Meaning that in this outcome, Germany failed SO badly that even an unrepentant monster like Frick was willing to admit that everyone, even himself, and maybe even nazism itself, were to blame.
@@MaitreKorda That's what the CIA wants you to think. Pay no attention to the radioactive painting in Hitler's residence that kicked this whole thing off.
@@MaitreKorda "Actually, now that I think about it, you are right. First Guyana, next South Africa, why have I gotten so incompetent lately-" T H E Y O C K E Y P R E S I D E N C Y
I think when TNO2 comes if Bormann fucks up hard enough and dies of cancer they will collapse too. Also pretty sure the nuclear reactors he builds are the same as the Soviet ones at OTL Chernobyl, so the devs might just blow them up to make his collapse worse
Haven't the devs mentioned the warlord era of Germany as being like "nuclear-armed rhodesias"? I imagine it'd be if the German Anarchy goes on way, wayyy longer than it's supposed to.
@@nikerboker1995 Comrade, I merely used "anarchy" in the way that the counter-revolutionary development team of TNO used it. Blame Pink Panzer, not me.
@@antonslavik4907 I think you mean the black league. They're the nuke happy ultranationalist. The black army is either merely a directly democratic anarchist confederation or what is effectively an 'anarchist' vanguard state run by a military junta depending on your route.
All the world powers would want to take a bit of germany omks would not be a exception they would probably go with troops and anex all the german territories they can other nations would do the same anex all the german states they can anex
Isn't it the first one already, albeit, it is the 2nd GCW, if the 1st GCW takes too long, the guy controlling Germania (forgot his name) would go invade everybody
This should happen after Heydrich death causes the 3rd Civil War and the resulting Anarchy, like three 3 civil wars all deadly with modern weaponry in a fucking row, shit man you can't recover from that shit, well you can but not to the level of one of the strongest powers in the world.
it's actually possible only after war plan B. If you try to throw away Schorner, civil war will begin, and not only in Germany, but in all reichskommissariats, and there's no way to win it, even with cheats
I am fairly sure this is from the GCW2 (Triggerable at some point with Goering, don't remember exactly), and then it has it's own anarchy. But this is a *complete guess* so don't freak out if it doesn't work
Over on 1600-o-1957's (mdco1957's) Super Event of Die Schweige dez Deutschland (The Silence of Germany), I describe what a collapsed Germany could look like.
Goring wins the civil war and does not take do war plan C before the Oil crisis hits, thus starting the 2nd German CIvil War and if that goes on for to long the total collapse of the Reich. The event may be wholesome but all of Europe is at war, so.
This is an altered quote to fit the setting of the game, the actual quote by Frick was “Hitler was undoubtedly a genius but he lacked self-control. He recognized no limits. Otherwise the Reich would have lasted more than twelve years”
Hey guys can anyone send me a link to where I can get the read over the lore?? About a year or two ago TNO had a TVtropes page with some insane details on lore but the one they have now is missing a lot. I was hoping someone might know where to find all that info thanks.
Get to war plan C as goering and fuck over schöner in every way possible. A new civil war starts, but everything immediately balkanizes out of the two factions.
Wait so after the German collapse (this one is specifically if the 2GCW goes on for too long), what happens to Germany's nuclear arsenal considering that burgundy is still right nextdoor?
Omsk, burgundy, and Italy take the remaining parts of Germany and then Cold War 2 (or maybe in this case Cold War 1 since communism no longer in Russia) starts when they decide who gets the nukes
If Ferdinand Schoerner is to powerful, influential, and disloyal to furher Goering, he starts a civil war. If there is no victory in two years, generals and regional governments declare independence, dissolving the German state entirely, meaning no more United Germany. I believe both Schoerner and Goering die as a result, and speidal may be involved but I'm not sure. It's also the only way for Austria to come back from the dead as well, but it's called Ostmark instead of Osterreich. Basically Russia warlords but German.
I think you can get this with speer, heres how (i think): Step 1: Find the "regime currently leans..." On decisions, there you can find regime stability and stuff. Step 2: Get the regime stability to less than %30, you can do this by making the social outlook decrease. Step 3: A time decision will appear, giving you 110 days to get the regime stability to %30, just ignore it and let the time runout with -30%. *Result*: Germany ends up collapsing.
And so, the light of fascism burns on in the telos that was the very core of its existence: the eternal struggle and ascent of man over nature through will, technology, and power. And it was the reality of war which offered this possibility.
Depends on political realities in Russia and America. if Germany winds up surrounded by hawks then "forever" becomes a viable answer if you're an End Of History type
according to the description, there's currently no event to trigger this superevent, it only exists in the files under the name "BE_GERMAN_WARLORD_ERA".
That's if Japan wins the GAW, which canonically they don't. If Japan loses, they also lose their superpower status to to internal upheaval and its kind.
This is highly unlikely to be speer going to liberal, i don’t think its göring cause thats the 2nd gcw which fires in 69, i would presume during the 70s this fires because of the quote
And so the end of the biggest threat of fascism. From its shackles the 4th Internationale will rise to resist the ever enlarged threat of the US imperialist hegemony and the Japanese militarist machine.
Bismarck in his grave: “What have you done to my boy?”
Hitler in hell : I... I... I JUST WANTED IT TO DOMINATE EUROPE!!
bismarck didnt actually want a united germany he just did it so austria wouldnt and in the end he wanted it to basically be entirely controlled by prussia
Gideon Kennedy No Bismarck wanted to unify Germany under Prussia that’s why he also went to war with France to unify all the German people
@@justalonetraveler2769 he didnt go to war with france france went to war with prussia before that they only had the north german confederation bc they didnt want catholics
Gideon Kennedy Well Bismarck baited them in after they sent that message asking the king to promise that no Prussian ever sat on the Thorne of Spain
Meanwhile in the newly unified Russia:
"Marshal Zhukov, it's time..."
Omsk is just sitting gleefuly in the corner.
Omsk be like when it’s late to the party...
Imagine if Velimir unifies Russia at the time. He'd be like "I always knew that Asiatic Germans aren't true Aryans, pity that moron Vagner didn't witness it himself"
You surely mean *Tzar Vlad*
@@ДаниилЖевнерев-т9ы WOW!
Germany can end up fracturing or falling a lot of ways, almost like how a certain SS officer in Russia has a long list of possible deaths.
Yeha
@Kostas anagno 30 isnt even close, the devs said there was over 100 ways he can die, imo the best one is when he realizes he is in a game.
@@matcauthon9669 it's actually more like 250+ iirc
Who are you guys talking about?
what are the ways it can fracture? the war never reaches that point for me
It's interesting, because in real life, Frick was specifically talking about Hitler with that quote, whereas in this alternate version, he says "we." Meaning that in this outcome, Germany failed SO badly that even an unrepentant monster like Frick was willing to admit that everyone, even himself, and maybe even nazism itself, were to blame.
*smashes samuel adams while listening to America the Beautiful* "Ahh yes, another epic gamer victory royale"
Germany: *Kill itself*
USA: "My work here is done."
The world: "But you did nothing?"
USA: *Leaves*
Nah, they managed to get Italy closer to the OF-
_pizza fortuana bombing_
Fuck.
@@MaitreKorda That's what the CIA wants you to think. Pay no attention to the radioactive painting in Hitler's residence that kicked this whole thing off.
@@spartanalex9006 Now its time destabalise South American nations & Wage war on middle east lol
@@MaitreKorda "Actually, now that I think about it, you are right. First Guyana, next South Africa, why have I gotten so incompetent lately-"
T H E Y O C K E Y P R E S I D E N C Y
If we take in account the text, its looks like Bormann´s party is over, and no one wanted to clean the dishes
I actually think that Goering may have something to do with this
Yeah it makes more sense for goreing as he tries to invade the entire fucking world
I think when TNO2 comes if Bormann fucks up hard enough and dies of cancer they will collapse too. Also pretty sure the nuclear reactors he builds are the same as the Soviet ones at OTL Chernobyl, so the devs might just blow them up to make his collapse worse
@@luanandreas the devs sabotaged his reactors
@@luanandreas Also keep in mind, the Red Army Faction is still causing trouble...
"WE DID IT GLENN, WE SAVED GERMANY!"
By destroying it?
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@@thewolfPrince surprisedpikachuface.jpg
“But you didn’t do anything.”
Glenn: *flies to Mars*
@@MSF_Soldier_Alligator Glenn: *gets wrecked by Paramount Leader Zhdanov with his space armada*
America: Well, we did it boys, Nazism is no more.
Japan all quiet in the corner
and himmler
@@Deleted1 Himmler: Not if I have anything to say about it and I do. I'm gonna say the N word: Nuclear war!!
We’re the new Nazis now!!!
@@Deleted1 I'm going to be pedantic and say that Japan is fascist, not nazist, even though the two ideologies are very similar.
wow it took me a second to recognize the "Deutschland Uber Alles" in that
Haven't the devs mentioned the warlord era of Germany as being like "nuclear-armed rhodesias"? I imagine it'd be if the German Anarchy goes on way, wayyy longer than it's supposed to.
I don't approve of your negative use of the term anarchism, companion. Perhaps some time with the Siberian Black Army will change your tune
@@nikerboker1995 Comrade, I merely used "anarchy" in the way that the counter-revolutionary development team of TNO used it. Blame Pink Panzer, not me.
I think the devs used that term when talking about the RKs if the DSR wins.
@@nikerboker1995 Tfw Himmler and the Black Army are literally the same thing if they succeed.
@@antonslavik4907 I think you mean the black league. They're the nuke happy ultranationalist. The black army is either merely a directly democratic anarchist confederation or what is effectively an 'anarchist' vanguard state run by a military junta depending on your route.
Omsk would be REALLY happy if this event happens.
A bit dissapointed perhaps that they did not get to do it themselves.
@@JohnSmith-gz4fs A teuton is a teuton to Yazov, so they'll definitely do it
All the world powers would want to take a bit of germany omks would not be a exception they would probably go with troops and anex all the german territories they can other nations would do the same anex all the german states they can anex
General Altunin... the time has come. Execute Order 227.
Yes, Marshal Zhukov!
even in wilhelm's name he knew they were screwed
"Wilhelm Frick"
They should've put this after finishing Heydrich's route lol
yeah, i felt like it should've played after heydrich killed himself
This plays after 2nd german civil war
@@sh-le6fb Göring vs Shörner vs Speidel?
Here some lore ideas: The German Civil war lasts for too long so the factions collapse, OR the side that wins goes extreme
If it's too long Speidel attack everyone. If he still doesn't finish it he will start WW3. So probably it's after second civil war.
And the war can go nuclear
Isn't it the first one already, albeit, it is the 2nd GCW, if the 1st GCW takes too long, the guy controlling Germania (forgot his name) would go invade everybody
Basically the SS civil war
Not gonna lie I like to see what happens in Germany?
This should happen after Heydrich death causes the 3rd Civil War and the resulting Anarchy, like three 3 civil wars all deadly with modern weaponry in a fucking row, shit man you can't recover from that shit, well you can but not to the level of one of the strongest powers in the world.
Pov: You attacked Switzerland.
it's actually possible only after war plan B. If you try to throw away Schorner, civil war will begin, and not only in Germany, but in all reichskommissariats, and there's no way to win it, even with cheats
Epic gamer Herman Voring lost to a tiny nation in
The sad German anthem theme fits the setting.
I am fairly sure this is from the GCW2 (Triggerable at some point with Goering, don't remember exactly), and then it has it's own anarchy.
But this is a *complete guess* so don't freak out if it doesn't work
@@PresidentStorm. Wait so you can actually have this fire?
Edit: Yes, you can if you type "event goering.2042 GER" in the console
wait is this when the militarists get too unhappy? cause usually goering gets assassinated
@@kevincho1187 No. If goering does war plan C and tries to not depend on schorner anymore
Omsk:"YEEEEEEHHAAAAAWWWWWWW"
the description is wrong, it's implemented and can be fired by [REDACTED]
It’s triggered by the secret Heydrich x Himmler romance path
I think this must be triggered by Second German Civil War (after Goering) lasting too long.
[STRENG GEHEIM]
my bet is that Germany balkanizes into several regional states like Prussia Bavaria Westphalia Rhine ect until there is no united german state
Henry Morgenthau Jr. would be proud
Nah I think under Bormann Germany stays united but it becomes to Russia of OTL.
Over on 1600-o-1957's (mdco1957's) Super Event of Die Schweige dez Deutschland (The Silence of Germany), I describe what a collapsed Germany could look like.
Switzerland: we do a little trolling
This is far too blessed, I hope we figure out how to get this soon boys. This is some serious Sablin-Kennedy survives type shit!
Goring wins the civil war and does not take do war plan C before the Oil crisis hits, thus starting the 2nd German CIvil War and if that goes on for to long the total collapse of the Reich. The event may be wholesome but all of Europe is at war, so.
Frick seems to be missing the whole point of fascism. Fascism is precisely about accepting no limits.
And it ended up killing them.
He was referencing the second Reich
This is an altered quote to fit the setting of the game, the actual quote by Frick was “Hitler was undoubtedly a genius but he lacked self-control. He recognized no limits. Otherwise the Reich would have lasted more than twelve years”
At least goering did not destroy the world or should I say Remer
When you defeat the Soviet Union but still collapse.
Hey guys can anyone send me a link to where I can get the read over the lore?? About a year or two ago TNO had a TVtropes page with some insane details on lore but the one they have now is missing a lot. I was hoping someone might know where to find all that info thanks.
Yeah I need this too
@Kieran Edlin thanks
The good ending
Ah yes the best German ending...
me and the boys in the Russian anarchy: *schadenfreude intensifies*
So how does one get this event to play...
Read the description
Get to war plan C as goering and fuck over schöner in every way possible. A new civil war starts, but everything immediately balkanizes out of the two factions.
Wait so after the German collapse (this one is specifically if the 2GCW goes on for too long), what happens to Germany's nuclear arsenal considering that burgundy is still right nextdoor?
Omsk, burgundy, and Italy take the remaining parts of Germany and then Cold War 2 (or maybe in this case Cold War 1 since communism no longer in Russia) starts when they decide who gets the nukes
It happened........
Poland, Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine and Russia when this super event happens:
"It's a free real estate"
Meanwhile Zhukov and Usa
Show time
Too bad the Motherland has to be defeated for this to happen
Turns out it was something Goering couldn't vore....
From all this Super Events I see only 5 in my games, lol
I've only seen 3 lol
Ah sh*t here we go again.....we go to TNO timeline along with Fire Rises.
*Points at a map of a disunited warlord Germany*
Sablin: “You May not like it, but this is peak fascism, this is what you signed up for folks, enjoy!”
Joost FF Ha ha Buryat Red army go brrrrrrrrrr
@Joost FF Komi?
Bukharina or bust
@Joost FF Go on home, "Kaukasian" soldier, go on home!
Imagine not restoring the true ruler of Russia, Tsar Mikhail, to his rightful throne of Russia! Goddamn Commies!
What is this, the fifth German collapse already? And how does this specific one happen?
If Ferdinand Schoerner is to powerful, influential, and disloyal to furher Goering, he starts a civil war. If there is no victory in two years, generals and regional governments declare independence, dissolving the German state entirely, meaning no more United Germany. I believe both Schoerner and Goering die as a result, and speidal may be involved but I'm not sure. It's also the only way for Austria to come back from the dead as well, but it's called Ostmark instead of Osterreich. Basically Russia warlords but German.
Good ending
i love this arrangement of german anthem, can someone send a link pls?
ruclips.net/video/kyI2hzfXq9M/видео.html
"Look how they massacred my boy..."
Anyone got this rendition of Deutschlandlied?
@@saltyredcat Thank you!
We need full version
Whats the event id that triggers this?
Его нету в игре
I think you can get this with speer, heres how (i think):
Step 1: Find the "regime currently leans..." On decisions, there you can find regime stability and stuff.
Step 2: Get the regime stability to less than %30, you can do this by making the social outlook decrease.
Step 3: A time decision will appear, giving you 110 days to get the regime stability to %30, just ignore it and let the time runout with -30%.
*Result*: Germany ends up collapsing.
It eas been when goering start 2gcw and didn't win for a long time now it deleate
And nothing of value was lost.
(Russians) HOW DOSE IT FEEL HOW DOSE IT FEEL!!!!
Bukharina, Sablin, and SBA: a better world is possible, now's our time! *seizes from Leningrad to Sevastopol*
Blessed
Source for this version of Deutschland über alles?
German anthem in c minor
Look how they massacred my boy....
imagining leon Blume laughing his ass off in the stars
What's this event for?
The German Collapse
A.k.a Germany turns into mini warlord cluster,le big funni
@SuperDevton 113 based omsk pfp
@@redstar96gr57 How can you trigger this though?
Germany breaking up into micro nations(Saxony, Prussia, Hanover etc) and each turning into "Nuclear Rhodesia's" as Panzer put it.
link to the music??
William FRICK
* Laughs Russianly *
I would say good ending but with burgundy there and the chance that something much worse is going on in russia i really cant state anything
Speer run?
Prob bormann
Goering actually. Speer is sustainable and bormann collapse is special.
Only if the DSR win
How does this event happen?
GCW1 or 2 go for too long
@@polishraspberries um... what?
the first german civil war goes for too long (to late 65) or the second german civil war where goring fucks up goes for 1,5 years
Fuck as Bormman Germany
Wilhelm frick-it
Where can I find the song?
I believe that's the sad version of the German Federal Anthem
Song?
How???
epic :)
What's the song?
German anthem. The current one.
ruclips.net/video/kyI2hzfXq9M/видео.html
How can you get this event
How do you achieve this?
Before TT plays as Göring Wildrides at Großgermanische Re*ch. Invade everything>You forgot to manage the economy>Collapse.
How can you get this event?
The Dev Team collapse (2021)
And so, the light of fascism burns on in the telos that was the very core of its existence: the eternal struggle and ascent of man over nature through will, technology, and power. And it was the reality of war which offered this possibility.
Woah what happened?
It's not states but the event has the name be German warlord so it's probably a state of warlordism
It doesn't have context yet, but it seems like whatever happened turned Germany back into the HRE
Second German Civil War (when Goering attempts to sideline Schörner) drags on for too long.
What does this look like in game?
the same as in the video
@@ProGremlinPlayer I meant Germany's collapse.
@@12345678900987659101 not implemented yet
This isn’t Goering’s Second GCW right?
I think it’s that and Bormann
Im pretty sure it dosent matter who is in control in Germany, you just need to colapse as any Germany and you get this event
When this event happen?
Yaaaay
How long could "Germany" remain collapsed?
Depends on political realities in Russia and America. if Germany winds up surrounded by hawks then "forever" becomes a viable answer if you're an End Of History type
@@russelljohnson7004 "End of History" type, as in Francis Fukuyama?
Yeah. Think of collapsed TNO Germany like our former Yugoslavia, but on a Germanic scale.
Welp
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
Top ten saddest anime moments
hehehehe frick
Bye
wow, a slowed down version of the German national anthem...
How's this occur?
according to the description, there's currently no event to trigger this superevent, it only exists in the files under the name "BE_GERMAN_WARLORD_ERA".
Collin Buckman speculation time then? For me it’s Bormann death from his cancer.
@@kameron1290 I was thinking that too. We're all just gonna have to wait until the next update I guess, huh?
the union of socialist Soviet Republics revenge
What hapens when The German Collapse hapens?
Germany collapses
@@PhoenixFire2 yea but what are the consecuences?
@@alvarorubiodomech8327 You know Russia in TNO? That, but all the warlords have nukes
Omsk invades Germany
First the Japanese stock market crash and now this? It was funny at first but this is too many tno and tfr events being real.
Also Trump Presidency and many people has enough for it.
Explain
F
And so, the United States of America and Japan have become the last two remaining superpowers
That's if Japan wins the GAW, which canonically they don't. If Japan loses, they also lose their superpower status to to internal upheaval and its kind.
@Androy LLI
In that case, the United States is the last superpower in the world
@@OswaldMarcRogers Perhaps if russia reunites we could have a rival in 20 years or so.
Either Göring to powerful to control RKs or Speer to liberal...
This is highly unlikely to be speer going to liberal, i don’t think its göring cause thats the 2nd gcw which fires in 69, i would presume during the 70s this fires because of the quote
@@otermi the destruction came from inside, its highly unlikely to be caused by foreign sides
And so the end of the biggest threat of fascism. From its shackles the 4th Internationale will rise to resist the ever enlarged threat of the US imperialist hegemony and the Japanese militarist machine.
But Japan can be steam-roll by China too (atleast in the future)
What the name of this music?
I believe that's the sad version of the German Federal Anthem, correct me if im wrong
Deutschlandlied rewritten in C Minor.
@@EyeoftheU Thanks for that