'Prisneyland' Part II: California shifts from punishment to rehabilitation
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2024
- In California's effort to fundamentally change how it operates its prisons, two prisons are operating under a trial program that puts the focus on rehabilitating prisoners to cut down on recidivism. NBC's Steve Patterson takes us into a women's facility to find out how and if the program is effective.
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#California #Prison #Rehabilitation
They need to learn how to live differently. Many don't know how to function beyond criminal behavior. This is a good start.
From the 60s going into the 70 our prison system started to focus on Rehabilitation rather than punishment. But by the time the 80s and 90s rolled around, it was all about the harshest punishment possible! I was a victim of that system because I used cannabis! I'm glad to see things starting to shift back to a more sane and sensible and productive programs that will actually keep people out of prison!!
During kamalas reign
Victim? You are a survivor sir. Look at how far you have come.
Childhood friend of mine, wrecked this car he was driving while drunk and had marijuana and a triple beam in the vehicle. Is it always JUST marijuana. Then 5 years of his life later…ya know? Having to deal with homosexual gangbangers, and prideful prison guard.
The CDC system is stupid, but you survived.
I have lived next to a State Mental Hospital, including facilities for the criminally insane for over 70 years. When I was a kid I would see patients working in the fields, growing their own food crops. They also had their own Dairy cows to care for. This kept them busy and gave them a purpose in life. Then when the State released these patients out on the streets to fend for themselves, our homeless problem exploded. The State used most of the former Asylum property to build a State University. Our mental health system was sabotaged and now most prison systems have taken the place of mental health facilities. Making prisons self sufficient and teaching prisoners a trade should reduce recidivism decrease. It may not help gang members or psychopaths/sociopaths, but others in the population could be helped.
Yes, because they will be released eventually
The nation defunded the public mental health system in the 80s. Now it's either they get locked up or use the ER as a revolving door because law enforcement doesnt know what to do with them or suicide by cop.
One of the best things they could do is grow organic veggies, fruits, nuts, etc., to have organic gardens and orchards, like a food forest, with some flowers strewn about...Most people would be inspired to grow their own produce, etc., and then they'll be surrounded by nourishing and nurturing beauty...and they could use what they grow...Every prison should have that opportunity, as well as everyone in the world...🍎🍏
umm where is the interview of "white women" in that prison in this video hmmm, i only saw blacks and mexicans.
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They can’t consume anything they grown.
california's laws on crime will not solve the problem
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She's just saying what she thinks the system wants to hear.
I hope it works. I felt like this has been needed for years.
Yes, because they will be released eventually
Note that only certain people qualify to go to these prisons. They need to earn this by showing long term ( like 7 + years ) good behavior in a regular prison. Basically this is a halfway house for people that want to change, This skews the result rate. There is NO way that hardened criminals will reform in this environment.
If you look at places like The Netherlands you will see that you are wrong .
@@shari9721 There is another vid about the California prison, one of the inmates clearly states that he had to wait 7 years to enter from a standard prison .
@@shari9721 They still medium security prison, you really think they'll put cartel guys in there lol
I'm not sure where you got your information, but it's inaccurate. 6 prisons are currently adapting variations of the Norway model, but more generally, all 33 prisons will move towards the California Model, which is based on 4 pillars: Normalization, Peer Mentorship, Becoming a Trauma Informed Organization, and Dynamic Security.
@@michaelhorn1515 What info of mine are you calling inaccurate? The people in the CA test prisons are hand selected, they don't just bring in random people so of course their results will be better. This is kind of like saying that a private school with a high bar of entry produces better results than a public school where they have to take everyone.
Awesome!!
Well you have to qualify for this prison . Secondly your in prison for a crime which means they are up in your business.
Keep nitpicking
Newsome should be fired .
What about the victims ?
This is why my Walmart has three armed guards at the front door .
Half the store is locked up .
Prison isn't supposed to be fun .
You are more than the worst thing you did in your life - give people a chance to do better!
It’s not as good as in Norway seems like they are still treating them like prisoners
Having worked in prisons for over twenty years in another state, there are some issues with this approach. First, this can work but there always has to be the knowledge that things can turn at any moment and those issues will be caused by inmates and staff that got too comfortable. I promote a more social aspect of prison reform but simply trying to introduce that to every prison in the state is going to end up with some serious problems. There are inmates who are going to take advantage of this and play wolf in sheep's clothing to forward their own criminal agenda when the time is right. The prison system has to be selective and start fairly small. The success can be used to entice others to do well in order to get more liberties and better conditions. Create a contract with inmates who want to participate in this program. If they significantly violate the contract, they go back to a facility that's status quo for corrections today. A big problem is not separating violent inmates with a significant criminal history or those who show a propensity for continued violence and illegal activity from those who got found guilty and are in prison to simply do their time while trying to improve their outlook on life and get away from criminal behavior. Without separation, there will always be recruitment into gangs, forced loyalty based on race, assaults based on crime, and security issues that affect those who are not involved in criminal behavior inside the walls and fence lines. I have worked with plenty of inmates who decided they want to get out of the prison politics and do their best to change their attitude. I have also worked with those who pretend to want to change, then go right back to the same crap they were doing as a gang member or management problem. DOC can only provide so much. The rest of it has to come from the inmate. One big thing is to bring these ideas to the streets and try to change the cycle before kids turn to gangs, crime, and violence. We don't do enough for that. This is not a simple fix. It'll take decades to solidify this into common practice.
Nice reform program, but what does America have that Scandinavia doesn't....................
Demographic problems.
Thanks for the really important, good news 👍
Isn't the point of prison to think about what you did and suffer instead of enjoyment?
The point of prison is to turn people's lives around . The loss of freedom IS the punishment not abuse , infested cells , torture , suffering etc . They are not having fun in prison they are learning how to be productive members of society , THAT is what prison is supposed to accomplish . People get released when their sentence is done , what kind of people do you want being released , people who are angry , who have no skills or opportunity to get a job , who have no chance of changing their life , who have to turn to crime again in order to survive or people who have learned how they can be productive members of society who have a chance of having a different life ? What is the purpose of sending people to prison over and over again when it doesnt benefit society ,the staff or the inmates and has no positive outcome , only countless negatives ? It costs a fortune for police , duty counsel , court costs , jail , the damage to society and victims , families , children etc and the amount is insane when people are sent to jail repeatedly but it costs far less and makes far more sense to REFORM them , to educate and teach job skills and how to be productive members of society the first time they are sent to jail . The prison system clearly doesnt work , why keep doing something that doesnt work ?
@@shari9721 But most criminals enjoy being in prison. They spend more for prison related stuff than in education for the youth.
@@RollerBladingSuxs Can you show us any data on the claim "But most criminals enjoy being in prison"? Presumably if they left the prison unlocked and the guards shut their eyes, the prison would have a greatly reduced population pretty quickly. I don't think most inmates would hang around willingly.
Isn't prison supposed to rehabilitate offenders?
Supposed to, because they will be released eventually
He still looks at them like they are sub-human.
Well ..... I mean. .
This whole restructuring of the prison system is never gonna work the way it does in other countries and the reason why are the gangs inside. The gangs are the ones that really run the prisons and a new system like this one is only going to make it harder if not impossible for the shot callers to run their business like they have for the last 70 yrs.
These types of prisons are not open for violent offenders. If you’re a labeled gangbanger or your crime was committed with a deadly weapon… you know if you’ve ever heard a trial and the DA for finding the verdict… the reason why is because it disqualifies the inmate from these programs. The same for the fire camps here in California. You can’t go and fight wildfires if you’re a violent offender. So mostly these crimes are drug offenses, multiple DUIs, B&E. When you go through processing people will literally tell the CEO I’m wet from whatever gang. So that their housed with their gang.
So, commit a crime, get free job training and opportunities after prison. Why don’t you give them a free house and a car, too? Prison is supposed to be about punishment. I can’t imagine how 5he victims must feel knowing the criminals that hurt them are having fun in prison.
The loss of freedom IS the punishment not abuse , infested cells , torture , etc . They are not having fun in prison they are learning how to be productive members of society , THAT is what prison is supposed to accomplish . People get released when their sentence is done , what kind of people do you want being released , people who are angry , who have no skills or opportunity to get a job , who have no chance of changing their life , who have to turn to crime again in order to survive or people who have learned how they can be productive members of society who have a chance of having a different life ? What is the purpose of sending people to prison over and over again when it doesnt benefit society ,the staff or the inmates and has no positive outcome , only countless negatives ? It costs a fortune for police , duty counsel , court costs , jail , the damage to society and victims , families , children etc and the amount is insane when people are sent to jail repeatedly but it costs far less and makes far more sense to REFORM them , to educate and teach job skills and how to be productive members of society the first time they are sent to jail .
It's all part of the liberal/Democrat mindset. Always making excuses and coddling criminals instead of accountability. It's pathetic. Never been arrested or to jail and I swear criminals or ex convicts get more handouts, benefits, programs etc then law abiding citizens.
With a thousand dollar retail theft limit before prosecution who needs rehabilitation?
What about preventing crimes thus elliminating victims? These victimizers deserve nothing but bread and water. How about preventing people being victimized? This country is way too soft.
Now the question is why do we the people need to pay taxation, seems like punishment to me
They should be out earning their keep. Pick up trash along the roads. Work in community gardens. Public parks cutting grass, and pulling weeds. SOMETHING.
How is the present system doing at preventing crimes and eliminating victims ? How does giving inmates only bread and water , releasing angry hungry people prevent crimes and eliminate victims ? The loss of freedom IS the punishment not abuse , infested cells , torture , hunger etc . They are not having fun in prison they are learning how to be productive members of society , THAT is what prison is supposed to accomplish . People get released when their sentence is done , what kind of people do you want being released , people who are angry , who have no skills or opportunity to get a job , who have no chance of changing their life , who have to turn to crime again in order to survive or people who have learned how they can be productive members of society who have a chance of having a different life ? What is the purpose of sending people to prison over and over again when it doesnt benefit society ,the staff or the inmates and has no positive outcome , only countless negatives ? It costs a fortune for police , duty counsel , court costs , jail , the damage to society and victims , families , children etc and the amount is insane when people are sent to jail repeatedly but it costs far less and makes far more sense to REFORM them , to educate and teach job skills and how to be productive members of society the first time they are sent to jail .
@@shari9721 the type of prisoners I want are no prisoners. In Japan, there is no crime. That's because they take you 50 miles off the shore and throw you into the water. It's a very effective way to make people too scared to commit a crime. It works. These prisoners do not loose there freedom. They still have rights. They just loose their ability to stay ajoined with society. They still have their civil liberties.
Better late than never.
Note that only certain people qualify to go to these prisons. They need to earn this by showing long term ( like 7 + years ) good behavior in a regular prison.
Time 210 " I hate this place, we get treated like inmates " and time 230 More entitlement, there is no way this person is going to change in the long term. Sure , they know what to say when authority is around but will revert to old ways once they are out.
"They be all up in our bizness". You're in PRISON. You have NO business!
I agree with you 1000%
You may catch more flies with honey, but lessons learned through negative re-enforcement are better remembered, according to psychiatrists. Regardless, the rate of ex-cons re-offending is nearly 100%. The work has to be done before the person is out of elementary school. But of course, these days, schools are too busy teaching the woke narrative. At the same time, many parents are either negligently unaware or complicit in this brainwashing.
or this
But how does the state make money 💰 off the revolving door 🚪
You answered your own question with the term “revolving door”
What skill did Angela learn that coukd earn a legit living in the real world?
The painting we glimpsed?
California: the best place in America to be a criminal, an illegal alien, or both.
You do realize that programs designed to lower recidivism are good, right? Why would you want more crime?
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Never been in prison which talk of prisons in united states makes me 5hinks of prisons of countries not only here which some ppl stay out of ppl as trouble its good some prisons are for ppl men as women as some stay out of ppl for reason stay away from such
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None of these prisoners will want to leave the prison system if they make it to easy for them.
You should go to prison there, maybe they can teach you how to write.
That’s an adorable thing to say
The California model, huh?
Works in Nordic countries.
Sub-human?
Trump was getting ready to push prison reform.
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Master of the Day of Judgment.
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So when do you end this legal slavery ?
Lol fools.
Ahh too bad that you don't have immigrant workers anymore. At least you do not need to pay prisoners minimum wages.(sarcasm)
send the immigrants there, it's a federal job
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So women get special treatment vs. Men?
There is also a men's prison there offering the same thing .
Taxation the punishment for the crime of being a productive working American
What? Turn off Fox News.
@@Omni0404😂 fox News likes taxation as much as this channel
*for the love of all things WOKE! 😆 this will NOT end well... PUNISHMENT is the only deterrent... what's the incentive not to re-offend? Another vacation to PrisneyLand?*
How is the present system doing at being an incentive to not re-offend ? The loss of freedom IS the punishment not abuse , infested cells , torture , hunger etc . They are not having fun in prison they are learning how to be productive members of society , THAT is what prison is supposed to accomplish . People get released when their sentence is done , what kind of people do you want being released , people who are angry , who have no skills or opportunity to get a job , who have no chance of changing their life , who have to turn to crime again in order to survive or people who have learned how they can be productive members of society who have a chance of having a different life ? What is the purpose of sending people to prison over and over again when it doesnt benefit society ,the staff or the inmates and has no positive outcome , only countless negatives ? It costs a fortune for police , duty counsel , court costs , jail , the damage to society and victims , families , children etc and the amount is insane when people are sent to jail repeatedly but it costs far less and makes far more sense to REFORM them , to educate and teach job skills and how to be productive members of society the first time they are sent to jail . The prison system clearly doesnt work , the recidivism rates prove that , why keep doing something that doesnt work ?
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But you watched and commented here so you also are democrat
@@zuzauramek9850 I didn't watch, just popped in to comment and left when I saw it while I was looking for a football video, I never watch partisan propaganda, that's like being in China, I research both sides and decide.
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