During covid, I watched a LOT of enduro and dh riders, and started picking up on that subtle pump into corners, and that's now part of my trailride toolbox. It can be a very subtle push thru the feet or quite a foreful one (all depends on the context), but I've found it really opens up your options, as my favorite situation is a corner of questionable traction up ahead, and a subtle push into the corner loads the tires just enough to make it thru what would otherwise be a sketchy corner I'd have slowed down for in the past......hard to explain it, but once you feel it click, it's all done and you'll never approach a corner with quite the same mindset.
This is good stuff. I have been riding fior over 30 years. I'm about to turn 50 and I feel like I'm just now starting to grasp cornering concepts. Bryn Atkinson says to stay light on the bike. It's a good mental image that helps to consciously stay fluid. Another video said to keep masteryover the bike. You tell it where to go, not vice versa. Jeff Kendall-Weed says to learn the bike over more into turns. Put it all together with what I'm learning here and it is getting more fun on every ride.
Interesting. I've gotta integrate this torso mindset with my hip mindset. With my hip mindset, I'm thinking of stuff like being able to stretch/lengthen my legs to move the bike more independently of my body. In that last corner example, my body could be taking a shorter and straighter inside line while the bike could be going wider, with the bike even whipping forward to get ahead of my body, which requires my legs to not be so stiff/immobile and for my hips to be low to enable more of this. Thank goodness for some modern bike designs enabling max saddle slammage. Also, thanks for preaching the fitness aspect. I find my stiffening/tightening up is lessening after ensuring my core strength and stability isn't lacking.
Mountain biking made me understand that counter steering is not about the steering but how much pressure you need to push out of the apex, dirtbikes are so shit for learning that mechanism since you can just overpower any understeer into whatever you want if you're just a bit talented, mtb you have tl do all that work in brain and body coordination. Not that easy if you're not a natural 😅
Did you watch the video? or just looking at the pic - honestly this video helps more with entry/exit than the one in this vid ruclips.net/video/9SB1_0s1ivk/видео.htmlsi=ppjKGRshuKk5IDz7&t=401
Just cut to the cheese and explain body bike separation and low centre of gravity. Sorry bro, you're explaining and throwing in way too much useless information and not explaining the technique at all. "Cornering pocket" 🤦♂
Bike body separation is a great concept that’s applied poorly by 90 percent of riders. Why would I try to re-explain what’s keeping people stuck? And I spent a good bit of the video showing why we need to “get low” - did you catch why? What was your takeaway from that?
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During covid, I watched a LOT of enduro and dh riders, and started picking up on that subtle pump into corners, and that's now part of my trailride toolbox. It can be a very subtle push thru the feet or quite a foreful one (all depends on the context), but I've found it really opens up your options, as my favorite situation is a corner of questionable traction up ahead, and a subtle push into the corner loads the tires just enough to make it thru what would otherwise be a sketchy corner I'd have slowed down for in the past......hard to explain it, but once you feel it click, it's all done and you'll never approach a corner with quite the same mindset.
Yeah it’s infinitely fun for sure. I picked it up watching dudes ride whistler in Roam (remember back in like 2003 or something I think)
This is good stuff. I have been riding fior over 30 years. I'm about to turn 50 and I feel like I'm just now starting to grasp cornering concepts. Bryn Atkinson says to stay light on the bike. It's a good mental image that helps to consciously stay fluid. Another video said to keep masteryover the bike. You tell it where to go, not vice versa. Jeff Kendall-Weed says to learn the bike over more into turns. Put it all together with what I'm learning here and it is getting more fun on every ride.
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Interesting. I've gotta integrate this torso mindset with my hip mindset. With my hip mindset, I'm thinking of stuff like being able to stretch/lengthen my legs to move the bike more independently of my body. In that last corner example, my body could be taking a shorter and straighter inside line while the bike could be going wider, with the bike even whipping forward to get ahead of my body, which requires my legs to not be so stiff/immobile and for my hips to be low to enable more of this.
Thank goodness for some modern bike designs enabling max saddle slammage. Also, thanks for preaching the fitness aspect. I find my stiffening/tightening up is lessening after ensuring my core strength and stability isn't lacking.
Very helpful. Thank you. Could you do or do you have a video about cornering on technical rooty turns?
ruclips.net/video/9SB1_0s1ivk/видео.htmlsi=ppjKGRshuKk5IDz7&t=401
Thank you!
Mountain biking made me understand that counter steering is not about the steering but how much pressure you need to push out of the apex, dirtbikes are so shit for learning that mechanism since you can just overpower any understeer into whatever you want if you're just a bit talented, mtb you have tl do all that work in brain and body coordination. Not that easy if you're not a natural 😅
I’m not a natural - definitely you’re correct though!
Weight bias. The seat is a baseline from which we work with the bike.
Where are you hitting and exiting the corner
Did you watch the video? or just looking at the pic - honestly this video helps more with entry/exit than the one in this vid ruclips.net/video/9SB1_0s1ivk/видео.htmlsi=ppjKGRshuKk5IDz7&t=401
Just cut to the cheese and explain body bike separation and low centre of gravity. Sorry bro, you're explaining and throwing in way too much useless information and not explaining the technique at all. "Cornering pocket" 🤦♂
Bike body separation is a great concept that’s applied poorly by 90 percent of riders. Why would I try to re-explain what’s keeping people stuck?
And I spent a good bit of the video showing why we need to “get low” - did you catch why? What was your takeaway from that?