This is what it's like to lose your son to suicide

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Our full interview with the Fraser family after their son, Jak, died by suicide.
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  • @PoliticsJOE
    @PoliticsJOE  2 года назад +9

    On the streets of Scotland's drug deaths and suicide crisis: ruclips.net/video/1pvCj-_g5AM/видео.html

    • @roviannematovu3756
      @roviannematovu3756 Год назад

      Joe, how r the Fraser family doing now? Been v moved by yhis interview. The u.

  • @MarkSmith-cg6qy
    @MarkSmith-cg6qy Год назад +14

    At 35:00, one of the interviewees says, it will be worth it, "as long as it helps just one person." This video genuinely helped me. Thank you.

  • @izzyd6369
    @izzyd6369 Год назад +22

    The fact that the dad said “anything we can do to help anybody else” a month after this tragedy is an absolute testament to the type of people these are. Suicide and ill MH doesn’t discriminate. These are good people and i wish them healing and peace.

    • @roviannematovu3756
      @roviannematovu3756 Год назад

      Do u know how they're getting on?

    • @iamfreedman6880
      @iamfreedman6880 7 месяцев назад

      Suicide discriminates quite a lot actually. Just look at the fact that >80% of all instances are men in almost every single country lol

  • @karelkieslich6772
    @karelkieslich6772 2 года назад +42

    this is absolutely tragic and painful to watch... I am so sorry especially for his brother, his retelling of the moment his brother died is absolutely devastating... I really really hope he and his family gets adequate support.

    • @templar2322
      @templar2322 2 года назад +2

      I hope he doesn't top himself, the PTSD must be fucked.

  • @vickystevens9370
    @vickystevens9370 2 года назад +18

    I commented under the other video. I will comment again here: a big thank you to Jak`s family for doing this interview. You are helping countless people. Many of use feel suicidal at times, some actually do it. It`s nobody`s fault.

  • @robertlock6041
    @robertlock6041 2 года назад +19

    A truly heartbreaking story. Maybe this video will encourage those with mental health issues to seek help, and save some lives. Thank you for making it, and thank you to the incredible family for sharing this.

  • @susanstones347
    @susanstones347 2 года назад +10

    I always think you never know what people are going through ever.The old saying if you have a broken arm with a plaster on you can see it but no one can see what is hurting inside.People can be smiling ,but on the inside screaming.Thank you for highlighting this.Thank you to the family for sharing your precious son’s story with us on here.it touched my heart.

  • @unmastered6154
    @unmastered6154 2 года назад +33

    The mental health pandemic is real

  • @bensuthers3748
    @bensuthers3748 2 года назад +19

    I just want to pass on my condolences to all the friends and families.

  • @mamie6820
    @mamie6820 2 года назад +10

    Thank you for your courage and honesty💔💔💔. There’s so much love in your family - Jak definitely knew he was loved, but nothing could stop his mind’s intent. Sending you my heartfelt condolences.

  • @roviannematovu3756
    @roviannematovu3756 Год назад +6

    How is the Fraser family coping today? I cannot believe this was filmed just 4 weeks after. I've been where Jak was & am still stuck there, today, in desparate limbo, on the proverbial carpark roof, by barrier of Life & Death, legs dangling, looking down in terror as I write this, in excruciating mental torment & anguish. It takes a certain kind of reverse courage 2 defiantly override laws of nature 2 stay alive. It must b difficult 2 accept that it was a conscious, deliberate choice & decision to take back control when life seems so unmanageable & overwhelming. Happens 2 brightest & most sensitive. Jak is hopefully at peace. He doesnt have 2 fight with those warring demons in his head anymore. What resonated with me most, is Ricky saying, who is in worse agony: the suicidal person, feeling alone, unloved, misunderstood, disconnected from humanity, a failure, a burden or the devastated remaining family, who unceremoniously collected yr ashes in a box, absolutely shattered, heartbroken, a gaping hole left in their souls, mirrored in their grief stricken, tear-stained eyes, unjustly left 2 deal with the aftermath, their lives forever changed? Nobody wins. A v tough Assignment from God. It just: Is, what it is. I'm so v v v sorry.

    • @tropicalpalmtree
      @tropicalpalmtree 9 месяцев назад

      I posted a comment above of my story. I was going to kill myself by overdosing on lethal doses of Oxycodone and Xanax. Please get in touch if you need someone to listen and confide in. I could do with someone who understands how this feels too. I'm 29M.

  • @robinhughes8822
    @robinhughes8822 2 года назад +10

    I am so so sad to see the sadness in all of your eyes ,it is so hard to loose a loved one suddenly or not , but when they choose to take there own it it is so much harder , I am am 47 and all of my best friends have taken there lives ,and I am friends with most of there parents and they ask me so many deep full questions and I wish I had the answer , but we can’t blame ourselves for what we haven’t done or not done . We are just humans ,but I wish you all from the bottom and the top of heart 💜 xxxx

  • @clownguy
    @clownguy 2 года назад +8

    He did have emotions his emotions were powerful and overwhelming. People with autism experience the world differently from each other, but it is extremely common that they receive too much input/stimulus from senses and from emotions. Suicide is a leading cause of early death for autistic people and for men. For autistic men the rates are off the chart. "Society is a dick."

  • @deniselyden2580
    @deniselyden2580 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for sharing your experience. My brother took his own life and trying navigate the overwhelming grief, guilt, anxiety. Listen to you is helping me.

  • @nejuw
    @nejuw 4 месяца назад +1

    What a lovely loving family. I hope the pain decreases with time.

  • @zoizr1131
    @zoizr1131 2 года назад +5

    I'm 27 and twice I've tried to die. I've 3 mates who have tried the same, one succeeded. Men in this country are dying silently all around us all, and it's fucking awful. The North of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are being torn to pieces. Idk how long I can last, or how long this country can.

  • @JohnsysChannel
    @JohnsysChannel 2 года назад +14

    What a tragic scenario. A young man has taken his own life and his family are left totally destroyed too. If the family happen to see this, I'm sorry for your loss.

    • @helengreen584
      @helengreen584 2 года назад +9

      Thank you ❤️ I’m his mum x

    • @JohnsysChannel
      @JohnsysChannel 2 года назад +3

      @@helengreen584 I'm so sorry, it was genuinely horrible and upsetting me listening to your son explaining what happened. I can't begin to imagine how you are all dealing with it. I know it doesn't mean much at all what I've said, it's just a token gesture, but I really did feel for you all watching this. I just hope that at some point you can get some level of normalcy again in your life, for your own sake. Take care.

    • @sheilamair2732
      @sheilamair2732 2 года назад +2

      @@helengreen584 so sorry for your loss. I know this programme is talking about male suicide but my daughter also managed to successfully take her own life at the age of 26 which was 10 years ago. It's a bloody hard road you and your family are walking and sometimes there is no understanding reached or answers. It is fine for people to write and say talk to someone but it's not so easy when the person is in a dark place and cannot see a way put. I also had absolutely no clue that my daughter was even contemplating suicide, she hid it so well. I totally agree there is no recovery but there is a forced acceptance. If I can help you in anyway plz get in touch, I will leave details if I can with Joe.

    • @quantumstate6397
      @quantumstate6397 2 года назад +1

      @@helengreen584 Hi, i've left a comment about my own boy in the comments, 18yrs old, Myself and the wife have been left now with just our daughter at 21. Just as a coincidence, our son's birth date is 21/11/2002.

  • @fapo9379
    @fapo9379 Год назад +2

    Any one would be over the moon to have such a lovely brither mother and father talking so highly of them. Wishing you guys well ❤

  • @MonstaMunch101
    @MonstaMunch101 4 месяца назад +1

    My 5 year old son has a friend at school whose father killed himself recently. This shit has to stop.

  • @jbikes92
    @jbikes92 2 года назад +2

    i have absolute heartache for the family....he never wanted to hurt you guys. in all honestly when mental health reaches a point thats not on your mind. he was obviously at a point of absolute mental health take over. i suffer quietly of mental health and you cant describe it. like its such a weird, confusing unheard of feeling when it comes to boiling point.... the family are in bits and it gets me... and i hope the wee boy has found his peace....god bless

  • @002lisamarie
    @002lisamarie Год назад +2

    Rest in peace Jak and love to his family xxx

  • @keithayre5110
    @keithayre5110 2 года назад +1

    the physical pain & trauma of separation from you're son & brother is overwhelming.the deep spiritual bond & love you have 4jak, can ever be separated from you're heart & memory of jak.

  • @daydreamers892
    @daydreamers892 2 года назад +3

    I tried to take my own life several times the latest attempt almost worked I’ve lost 2 very close friends to suicide and almost lost 5 more
    Suicide is serious I hate how people joke so much about it

    • @fapo9379
      @fapo9379 Год назад +4

      Dont do it please dont. Life is precious and everyone wants you here

  • @goodyking6732
    @goodyking6732 2 года назад +2

    That's pretty inspiring. Condolences. Thanks for sharing.

  • @quantumstate6397
    @quantumstate6397 2 года назад +2

    Hi, sorry to hear about your loss. I lost my son to suicide Aug 2021, I understand fully what you are going through. Have you reached out to SOBS yet just to even talk? or reply below if you would like to get in touch - from Fife. Your a lovely family, and I identify with you all so much, I still beat myself up daily with guilt, but know ultimately our boy just didn't manage himself very well. I would love to hear back from you.

  • @juliewilliams9441
    @juliewilliams9441 2 года назад +2

    So sorry for your huge loss 💗😪

  • @dianajames4717
    @dianajames4717 Год назад +1

    iT IS SO PAINFUL TO WATCH THESE POOR PARENTS CRY SO MUCH. WHY DO BAD THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE?

  • @jmajesty79
    @jmajesty79 9 месяцев назад

    The pain some people have to endure beggars belief at times...my heart really empathises with this family. I hope they support each other, and also get some support. How harrowing and devastating for them.

  • @garrywalker6646
    @garrywalker6646 Год назад +1

    I really feel for this family listening to their story of their son brother,, its heart breaking for them,, i hope it makes them stronger as a family i really do but its really difficult losing a brother ,, i lost my brother in 1995 if he was still alive he would be soon to be 65 im soon to be 64 my brother took his life i still miss him to this day i need answers but cant find them still 28years on ,, i miss you still STUART! 😞😢brother garry.

  • @tracywacko
    @tracywacko 2 года назад +2

    So sad I knew this young boy when he was at primary school with my son heartbreaking for his family

  • @9000ck
    @9000ck 2 месяца назад

    His mother is so distressed, she looks dissociated.

  • @jairusjackson7799
    @jairusjackson7799 2 года назад

    I feel bad for this whole family, but especially for the brother. He was right there when he did it, only a couple feet behind, he'll probably be replaying the memory over and over in his head thinking about what he could have done differently. But he did his best, he got him to come down, he just didn't see it coming.

  • @robertjsmith
    @robertjsmith Год назад +1

    I think its important that people dont blame themselves or others,some things are just meant to be.

  • @taraalan1131
    @taraalan1131 10 месяцев назад

    The vodka warped his thinking too. His mind wasn’t totally made up , or he wouldn’t have let his brother know. It was a crazy moment of impulse facilitated by the alcohol which he wasn’t really used to. They are such a close,loving family and I could actually feel their grief. I myself have been through dark times with my daughter, who has made several suicide attempts ,although she has a degree and numerous qualifications. She dissociates and finds herself in traffic, or deep water etc. ,and is now heavily medicated. Some unknown trauma in childhood may have caused the emotional disturbance,which has ruined her life. Her marriage lasted only one year and she has an adult son, but she believes that she can’t tolerate romantic relationships. I just feel lucky that she is still alive , but her bright personality has gone. There are different degrees of being dead , I believe. Life should have enjoyment and laughter. I’m attempting to let this family know that their handsome son is at peace at least, and that there are different types of loss. His decision wasn’t made with a clear, sober mind , but was more like a terrible tragic accident. My heart goes out to all three of them. He was gifted to them for 17 years for a reason.❤❤❤❤❤🎉

  • @herbyhannan1675
    @herbyhannan1675 6 месяцев назад

    Poor Ricky,my heart goes out to him having watching his brother kill himself,oh man,

  • @mpat100
    @mpat100 Год назад

    Blessings and healing for them

  • @Babyblue689
    @Babyblue689 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just need to say, I’m autistic and we do overreact to situations. Sometimes autistics can do things without realising the consequences, because our brain patterns are different and we don’t always see things clearly. It’s a hard I condition to manage that obscures logical thinking. I say to my friend, I’d do this that and the other in certain situations, they are familiar with autism and said ‘yes, but autistics can act on sheer impulse and not realise what the aftermath could be’. When I was a young person I felt very upset by things that other young adults wouldn’t be too phased by, and had sleepless nights over these things. It could be that your son hadn’t realised the true consequences of jumping like that, and it was done on impulse, reacting to a very strong emotion at the time. Jack had a loving family, so in most cases over a relationship break up most youngsters would feel upset, but get over it. I’m very sorry for your loss, but forgiveness is the best solution for this, accepting that Jack was not in his right mind at the time, and having this bizarre illness that affects reasoning and people’s actions, that all contributed to this terrible incident. There was a case of an autistic boy who was being looked after by a carer and ran in front of a train before the carer could do anything. I’m not trying to compare, but to try and give some perspective if I can. Accept his condition and think of & celebrate the good times you had. Get on with your lives because Jack wouldn’t want you to live in misery. I’m so very sorry for your loss, and wish u well.

  • @johnedwards230
    @johnedwards230 2 года назад

    It's all there to see, I hope they can learn to live with their loss, very sad and way too common occurence

  • @brandonmwangi892
    @brandonmwangi892 2 года назад

    Rest in peace 🙏🏾

  • @englishrosechampagne854
    @englishrosechampagne854 2 года назад +2

    God if only the boy could see this!!! Maybe he would have chosen to just talk with the family that are truly grieving 🥀✍️...this such a painful time and (MEN)☝🏻 nobody said you never can cry.....

    • @lukeaustin4465
      @lukeaustin4465 Год назад

      They would more than likely tell him to man up.

    • @tropicalpalmtree
      @tropicalpalmtree 9 месяцев назад

      We can only cry by ourselves. Cry in front of a woman, she loses respect for you, cry in front of a man, you look weak and get the piss taken out of you.

  • @debblackmore7460
    @debblackmore7460 Год назад

    Diamonds are forever to live in hearts we leave behind is not to die fly high angel with other Angel's shine in heaven you always shined on earth speak out dont suffer in silence nothing to be ashamed off its mental health and it stinks I feel your pain I honestly do two my beautiful nephews took their lives mental health stay strong stay positive stay safe takecare sending luck hugs prayers most of all love from UK xxxxx

  • @acts837kjv4
    @acts837kjv4 10 месяцев назад +1

    Psalms 34:18 The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
    Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth, the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

  • @andrescasado5975
    @andrescasado5975 2 года назад +1

    Be careful what you wish for

  • @herbyhannan1675
    @herbyhannan1675 6 месяцев назад

    Why,

  • @lawrencebishton9071
    @lawrencebishton9071 Год назад

    Thank god no thank NHS for there lock,s down needs

  • @ryanhorne1509
    @ryanhorne1509 2 года назад +1

    how dare he ask those questions after a month. is he a robot, the family need to heal maybe thats a factor for us as a nation we dont acknowledge empathy

  • @mattstevensms60
    @mattstevensms60 2 года назад +8

    This is what the world of lockdowns does

    • @mattstevensms60
      @mattstevensms60 2 года назад +3

      @@Runclimblift what are you talking about

    • @emilymorton6510
      @emilymorton6510 2 года назад +10

      This video is to raise awareness of male suicide. The world doesn't revolve around lockdowns. As someone who struggles with mental health and has attempted suicide multiple times since the age of 12, I know what the affects of lockdowns have had on people like myself.

    • @mattstevensms60
      @mattstevensms60 2 года назад

      @@Runclimblift right? That is what I said lol

    • @mattstevensms60
      @mattstevensms60 2 года назад

      @@Runclimblift make it easy what is that then

    • @timpont54
      @timpont54 2 года назад +3

      @@emilymorton6510 I hope you are okay, and that you realize that you are loved. Stay strong.