Quick Note: The upcoming Intel Boards could very well be called Z890 and not Z870 as I said in the video :D Also sorry for the audio it was so extremely loud there. hope it's okay
With the mem laid out flat as such you Could Design a Water Block Across Both CPU a nd Mem Now , I Would Think this has More than a Direct Latency Improvement but Also Cooling .
We know that, don't worry! There is a person at the exhibition who really wants to meet you! Ivan Hinov, the largest importer of hardware for Bulgaria, a person who also partners with Caseking, you would talk a lot with him, I'm sure!
1:34 Yeah it's also why they wouldn't let Roman see the socket because all the pins are pre broken so you have to return it & pay to get them fixed because there is a scratch on the box
It's funny that they used a foldable screen from a phone for the prototype. You can see the semitransparent cutout for the camera with a lower pixel density.
@@0xBlez haha they definitely won't, I wouldn't worry about that. It's just a mass production thing. Many of the currently mass produced foldable screens have the camera hole, and Asus don't have the scale yet to have its own screens with no hole. Like you said it's just a prototype rn :)
AIOs by this point just have a whole ass phone in them. Which you'll have to keep opening your case if you actually want to make use of its one gimmick, and will be thrown away once the fluid percolates out :(
Trends for this year: more screens, more back connectors, more wood cases, some innovations with limited use case. Does it matter when Asus has damaged their brand reputation with quality control and now notoriously poor customer support? Quality components are slimmer pickings than ever without EVGA providing such a high standard :(
I am highly interested in that kind ram which was presented by Kingston. I would like to see a "surface" mount upgradeable option ram because small form factor systems could benefited from that design.
Memory put orizontal let me think in a future to see a waterblock that can be put on cpu and ram in the same time and hide them to have a flat motherboard with only gpu placed in vertical. Cables on the back. You can t see nothing more. Only custom loop tubes.
CAMM on ATX/ITX might be a good thing for economies of scale, even more so if signaling is better. A single form factor for both laptop and desktop is a good idea. I don't think servers will follow that concept though.
I've been mocking up 3D printed cold plate concepts for about a year but haven't had a chance to get a fabricator to make me a reasonably priced prototype. Not sure exactly how those are done but I think there's future potential for high performance blocks as long as the material properties are effective enough. I do like the idea of getting away from traditional DIMM slots for high performance systems. This opens up a lot of interesting potential for overclocking and I'd hope allow more boards to reliably support faster speeds. However it would need to be standardized without a significant increase in cost and might make more sense for HEDT platforms.
Do you think CAMM2 will come to mini itx motherboards? Because it solves RAM clearance issue for cpu coolers, but it doesnt look like it would fit on such a small mobo. Maybe on the back of it hopefully.
This kind of usage of metal 3d printing floats on the surface, but costs aren't anywhere near to classic machining(while it still needs machining including detaching printing piece from build plate which requires additional labor), it could be an innovation if they would actually make a product for a reasonable price.
@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov They originally pitched this tech to server vendors, where it would make complete sense, eg. in 1U servers or blade servers
@@TheBackyardChemist problem is, servers are huge market because of sheer volume, not because of infinite budget pear each chassis, so if thing costs a lot a gives 2 degrees C difference - noone will buy it, again, until there's reasonably priced product it's just a concept and i wouldn't say that it's anyhow surprising, at least for those folks who play around with 3d printing for a couple of days it would be pretty obvious :)
I'm still waiting on the industry to create a successor to the ATX case layout that is built with high performance systems in mind. You know, stuff like a GPU that draws more power and needs more cooling than the CPU, expansion cards that need more than just the PCIe slot for structural support, and assuming that memory needs more than just passive airflow for cooling. Maybe a motherboard layout that has a keep-out zone adequate for a 250W CPU cooler rather than a 65w CPU cooler so we can actually reach cable connectors after the CPU cooler is installed? You know, stuff like that. If that is too hard, could we at least get some more case options with the motherboards mounted horizontally? That at least helps with the GPU structural support issues. Also, GPU's have gotten so wide and CPU coolers to tall, that high performance cases are almost wide enough to support going back to horizontal motherboard mounting anyway.
Looks cool, exciting tech for sure. Too bad it's all made by Asus. We can't buy any of it until they fix their literal scam of an RMA/warranty process and tell all of us transparently and publicly how they fixed it. Tech is worth nothing without warranty. Stay away.
I get the 2nd half of your comment, but wtf does that have to do with wokeness? 🤔
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@@BlueDrew10 Samething wokeness has to do with everything, sensitivity - or in this industry more so jumping on the same bandwagons no matter the topic. Came here to read about new products only to read the same echo chamber.
Hey Roman. Is there a chance that high performance heatspreaders and direct die frames for Ryzen 9000 will come fairly quickly since you have all the tooling and manufacturing all set up already now?
That memory module would be nice but it might make Mobo expensive. Or at least the memory module. Modules not in wide use and not in mass production. If it would be made as new standard then maybe. It is just inline is in mass production, and not so expensive because it is.
The coldplate & the RAM idea seem the best parts of that - having to screw RAM in isn't a problem, it's not like most people take it out that often. Hopefully you'll be able to get a plate like that in a discrete waterblock, because I'm done with AIOs. Why the hell do you want that size screen on an AIO, jeez. Just because they cost peanuts now doesn't make it a good idea!.
First block was 3d printed second was made using EDM ( Electrical discharge machining ), its kinda impressive but show us some tests ASUS don't tease me bro :)
Lets be honest, it's been this way for years. It's just been brought to the light suddenly. Outside of the hobbyists and gamers, this won't do much to them honestly. They do business and server stuff, so a few gamers throwing a tantrum (even if deservedly) might as well be a godsend for them.
@@MaddJakd no matter how big you are when people turn on you its pretty much over not instantly but surely, remember giants like Sony Erickson, LG mobile division and many more and thats the beauty of competition
@@ariasm8911 This is a different space. If that held true, Intel and a few others would have been gone, instead of just burning alive. Plus as I recall, Sony/ Ericsson split, then Sony doing their own thing said "f bending the knee to these carriers" back then. And LG, IDK. They just gave up from what I saw. As mentioned, they're in server, hell, their components are in way more stuff than most realize. Squabbling consumers is hardly a bump in the road to them at best.
My feedback for Asus is that I don't care what they come out with so long as they keep doing scams with their warranty claims. Until they publicly commit in writing and actions that they will actually honor their warranties without playing scams on their customers with charging for repairs that should be free under warranty, I will continue to blacklist anything and everything Asus to myself and friends and family.
I'm excited for the new memory. Better cooling, better compatibility for low profile coolers, and much better mounting. Dimms and their "snap in" installation is one of the worst parts of populating a motherboard.
I hope asus do not ruin their boards by soldering diodes in opposite polarity like they did on the z690 boards , I really hope they go back to being a high quality brand if not Im moving to a competitor
G'day Roman, 🤔A SUS AlphaCool AIO, does this mean A SUS might be moving away from ASSTek as their supplier ??? Edit: althogh the 3D printed plate suggests not
I've been buying Asus for years and years, Motherboards, GPUs, WiFi Routers, ect... and not one time have I had an issue with any of them. No failures, No RMA and if I'm going to buy a Warrenty it's going to be from Amazon, not the manufacturer because it's always a pain in the butt and I rather just get my money back.
1. I have no idea why anyone wants to pay a premium for a screen on their aio. 2. Bendy screen is cool until it breaks and you need it repaired under waranty.
Pretty much all the brands have been indicated in "scandal". I will continue making my purchase decisions based on performance and personal experience. Its sucks others had issues with "X" brand but all are in business for $$$ and non of them perfect angles. Improvements need to be made across the board but I'm not interested in virtue signaling outrage that I haven't experienced first hand. I'm not going to potentially screw myself out of a great product like this. Maybe things would be slightly different if the other companies all had stellar reputations. If you feel so inclined to "stick it to ASUS" do it with your actions, words are cheap.
ASUS has got lots of work to do before I buy something from them again. That's really too bad because they traditionally have had great products and support but the company seems to have lost their way.
too bad im now boycotting ASUS due to their shady CS and RMA practices. Sad because I have the x570 ROG formula motherboard and really liked it. My AM5 platform will be built in 4-6 months and im budgeting 4.5k usd, and ASUS wont see a single penny, neither will corsair.
ASUS is that good looking person you see at the bar, but your good friend Steve warns you "Watch out...they're bad news and you're gonna have a bad time if you risk it." In other words, maybe ASUS is the venereal disease of companies? 😅
Was that a HDMI-cable on the AIO? LoL, just a week or couple ago I was looking for small screens for one project and those, even flexible ones, are like $50, $70 if you want a fancy phone quality screen because you need HDMI-adapter for them. Those screen are pretty much the biggest scam in the tech world now right after ASUS customer support.
Well, for all ASUS innovations they may try will not make a difference, they are no longer a viable brand for me. They are probably on a 5 year ban in my house unless they manage to pull off in incredible redemption arc. It wouldn't matter if they delivered 30% more performance at 30% lower price, I will not give a single cent to scammers. They've been pretty popular in my home until now: 11 pcs mostly MB and GFX (also 1 laptop). Time to take the last trash out.
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Quick Note: The upcoming Intel Boards could very well be called Z890 and not Z870 as I said in the video :D Also sorry for the audio it was so extremely loud there. hope it's okay
And you even say it multiple times! 😂
4:30
What case is this ?? 🤷♀
you gonna meet up with your fanboys linus and jay?
With the mem laid out flat as such you Could Design a Water Block Across Both CPU a nd Mem Now , I Would Think this has More than a Direct Latency Improvement but Also Cooling .
We know that, don't worry!
There is a person at the exhibition who really wants to meet you! Ivan Hinov, the largest importer of hardware for Bulgaria, a person who also partners with Caseking, you would talk a lot with him, I'm sure!
Watch how when the AIO come broken to you , you try to return it to ASUS and then they wil try to charge you over 2000$ 😂.
B-b-but that AIO only cost 200$
@@ashbuddy92 ROG tax...
@@bazzingabomb oh must be "for those who dare" tax
Bunch of sheep
1:34 Yeah it's also why they wouldn't let Roman see the socket because all the pins are pre broken so you have to return it & pay to get them fixed because there is a scratch on the box
It's funny that they used a foldable screen from a phone for the prototype. You can see the semitransparent cutout for the camera with a lower pixel density.
apparently asus discovered the wisecoco aliexpress store
good eye
I mean it's called a prototype for a reason. Let's hope they don't use it in the final product
@@0xBlez haha they definitely won't, I wouldn't worry about that. It's just a mass production thing. Many of the currently mass produced foldable screens have the camera hole, and Asus don't have the scale yet to have its own screens with no hole. Like you said it's just a prototype rn :)
Will ASUS show their possible future of accepting warranty claim? xD
CAMM2 is awesome. Closer traces to the CPU for more bandwidth, clearance for literally ANY cooler, and doesnt block airflow AT ALL! I LOVE IT!
Oh, yeah, clearance is a huge thing!
@@tomppeli.yessir, one less thing to worry about when building
That ram will need a cooler, so maybe not better clearance necessarily.
@@xBINARYGODx why a cooler? Does it run that hot?
I need a great cooling solution
There you go, a flexible screen.
Using cam 2 modules on desktops sounds more okay then i expected.
AIOs by this point just have a whole ass phone in them. Which you'll have to keep opening your case if you actually want to make use of its one gimmick, and will be thrown away once the fluid percolates out :(
Trends for this year: more screens, more back connectors, more wood cases, some innovations with limited use case. Does it matter when Asus has damaged their brand reputation with quality control and now notoriously poor customer support? Quality components are slimmer pickings than ever without EVGA providing such a high standard :(
I was thinking the exact same
back connectors aren't necessarily a bad thing. Would make better airflow i would assume.
"FABRIC 8 LABS" *hears it said* "Oh, neat pun 'fabricate labs'"
Nah Asus has some questions to answer before I’ll be interested in their shit anymore
Agreed
Interesting AIO, but did EK Waterblocks get a booth at Computex? Is anyone going to interview EK or has the drama made them too radioactive?
ek is dead bro it's not coming back
@@iamdmc If EK is dead, why does EK have a booth at Computex? Isn't anyone going to talk to EK there?
Now they just need to sort out everything else that applies to us in the present.
I heard Asus is doing a ltd time offer, buy a board and we wont rip you off.
Hell yeah I want that CAM ram setup! Im gonna oc the ram to the moon with it!!
now we need to apply this 0:27 thing on that 3:45 thing and we have display on ram module..
I wonder if they will finally build an AIO that can display all the information they claim it will...
Whoever is controlling the gamer lights at the booth needs to chill out lol
8Pack Der8auer
🤝
absurd impressive systems
I am highly interested in that kind ram which was presented by Kingston. I would like to see a "surface" mount upgradeable option ram because small form factor systems could benefited from that design.
Memory put orizontal let me think in a future to see a waterblock that can be put on cpu and ram in the same time and hide them to have a flat motherboard with only gpu placed in vertical. Cables on the back. You can t see nothing more. Only custom loop tubes.
CAMM on ATX/ITX might be a good thing for economies of scale, even more so if signaling is better.
A single form factor for both laptop and desktop is a good idea. I don't think servers will follow that concept though.
I've been mocking up 3D printed cold plate concepts for about a year but haven't had a chance to get a fabricator to make me a reasonably priced prototype. Not sure exactly how those are done but I think there's future potential for high performance blocks as long as the material properties are effective enough.
I do like the idea of getting away from traditional DIMM slots for high performance systems. This opens up a lot of interesting potential for overclocking and I'd hope allow more boards to reliably support faster speeds. However it would need to be standardized without a significant increase in cost and might make more sense for HEDT platforms.
Vielen Dank Herr Bauer 👍🤛
CAM Memory is probably the most exciting upcoming hardware development, especially for air cooled systems with a giant cooler ^^
Once again Asetek is in the sole core of AIO business :D
Wow, some really amazing tech coming 🎉🎉🎉
tiny micro fins seem very flow restrictive? wouldnt you need extreme pressures to move fluids through these effectively?
in the last part, we see on the right a case witch perfectly fits a proart gpu. Could you cover this in detail?
Do you think CAMM2 will come to mini itx motherboards? Because it solves RAM clearance issue for cpu coolers, but it doesnt look like it would fit on such a small mobo. Maybe on the back of it hopefully.
@der8auer How to find more about the 7 4090 system? You caught my attention when you mentioned it had some partial aluminum parts.
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Now THATS a machine 😢🤤
That Fabric8Labs cold plate tech is probably the most interesting innovation that has happened in the last 10 years of computer water cooling.
This kind of usage of metal 3d printing floats on the surface, but costs aren't anywhere near to classic machining(while it still needs machining including detaching printing piece from build plate which requires additional labor), it could be an innovation if they would actually make a product for a reasonable price.
@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov They originally pitched this tech to server vendors, where it would make complete sense, eg. in 1U servers or blade servers
@@TheBackyardChemist problem is, servers are huge market because of sheer volume, not because of infinite budget pear each chassis, so if thing costs a lot a gives 2 degrees C difference - noone will buy it, again, until there's reasonably priced product it's just a concept and i wouldn't say that it's anyhow surprising, at least for those folks who play around with 3d printing for a couple of days it would be pretty obvious :)
My first thought was something like wire edm. Completely forgot about deposition and later sintering and whatnot.
@@Grandwigg Nah way cooler, its like a pixel-array electrodeposition process
lol u can see the camera cutout in the oled screen
It called "prototype" for a reason
I'm still waiting on the industry to create a successor to the ATX case layout that is built with high performance systems in mind. You know, stuff like a GPU that draws more power and needs more cooling than the CPU, expansion cards that need more than just the PCIe slot for structural support, and assuming that memory needs more than just passive airflow for cooling. Maybe a motherboard layout that has a keep-out zone adequate for a 250W CPU cooler rather than a 65w CPU cooler so we can actually reach cable connectors after the CPU cooler is installed? You know, stuff like that. If that is too hard, could we at least get some more case options with the motherboards mounted horizontally? That at least helps with the GPU structural support issues. Also, GPU's have gotten so wide and CPU coolers to tall, that high performance cases are almost wide enough to support going back to horizontal motherboard mounting anyway.
You'll be waiting for a while if that what you're looking for.
Horizontal layout cases however.... BeQuiet at the least got that on lockdown.
Looks cool, exciting tech for sure. Too bad it's all made by Asus. We can't buy any of it until they fix their literal scam of an RMA/warranty process and tell all of us transparently and publicly how they fixed it. Tech is worth nothing without warranty. Stay away.
Peeps who live in the EU can safely buy ASUS products.
Who else is gonna make it? Such wokeness, here in the EU we have realistic consumer and gun laws lol.
@@basshead. That's way the world is going to 💩.....
I get the 2nd half of your comment, but wtf does that have to do with wokeness? 🤔
@@BlueDrew10 Samething wokeness has to do with everything, sensitivity - or in this industry more so jumping on the same bandwagons no matter the topic. Came here to read about new products only to read the same echo chamber.
I would love the new ram socket on desktop that seems really exciting especially for ITX
Hey Roman. Is there a chance that high performance heatspreaders and direct die frames for Ryzen 9000 will come fairly quickly since you have all the tooling and manufacturing all set up already now?
That memory module would be nice but it might make Mobo expensive. Or at least the memory module. Modules not in wide use and not in mass production. If it would be made as new standard then maybe. It is just inline is in mass production, and not so expensive because it is.
CAMM2 module on desktop motherboard is very cool.
CAMM2 ought to be an upgrade in general
Personally, I haven't had the need to pop in two extra memory modules in my system
What I wanted to see at the Asus booth, was a commitment to improve themselves and the treatment of their customers.
That workstation... Wow
CAMM2 looks cool. You can get better CPU cooler clearance allowing for bigger air coolers. Maybe even CPU + RAM coolers.
But the real question remains. Can it print good rma contracts.
hate asus for their shady support practices
but can't deny they make some cool stuff
Great content as always
4:30 yeah that's my system running PONG. Only that game.
The coldplate & the RAM idea seem the best parts of that - having to screw RAM in isn't a problem, it's not like most people take it out that often. Hopefully you'll be able to get a plate like that in a discrete waterblock, because I'm done with AIOs.
Why the hell do you want that size screen on an AIO, jeez. Just because they cost peanuts now doesn't make it a good idea!.
1st iteration of the AI Optimized Cold Plate will be in the ROG RYUJIN III v2 Waterblock for open loop cooling. Then AIOs. lol
First block was 3d printed second was made using EDM ( Electrical discharge machining ), its kinda impressive but show us some tests ASUS don't tease me bro :)
Yesterday I've sold the last Asus part of my PC. Happy to report that my rig is MSI, Gigabyte, and Asus free.
Now that I’ve seen CAMM2 in a few videos I want it
Asus wont be part of future if they continue this horrible customer support
Lets be honest, it's been this way for years.
It's just been brought to the light suddenly.
Outside of the hobbyists and gamers, this won't do much to them honestly.
They do business and server stuff, so a few gamers throwing a tantrum (even if deservedly) might as well be a godsend for them.
@@MaddJakd no matter how big you are when people turn on you its pretty much over not instantly but surely, remember giants like Sony Erickson, LG mobile division and many more and thats the beauty of competition
@@ariasm8911 This is a different space. If that held true, Intel and a few others would have been gone, instead of just burning alive.
Plus as I recall, Sony/ Ericsson split, then Sony doing their own thing said "f bending the knee to these carriers" back then. And LG, IDK. They just gave up from what I saw.
As mentioned, they're in server, hell, their components are in way more stuff than most realize.
Squabbling consumers is hardly a bump in the road to them at best.
My feedback for Asus is that I don't care what they come out with so long as they keep doing scams with their warranty claims. Until they publicly commit in writing and actions that they will actually honor their warranties without playing scams on their customers with charging for repairs that should be free under warranty, I will continue to blacklist anything and everything Asus to myself and friends and family.
It’s gonna be a Z890 bro 😂not a z870 just thought I’d point that out.. other than that love your channel bro
That CAMM2 memory is running at 8000mhz Cl38 for anyone curious
How do you know that?
@canaconn2388 Asus showed it off in cpuz look it up (wccftech was my source)
CAMM is the way of the future same format in both desktops and laptops and no more loose ram
That has to be the most grotesque AIO I've ever seen.
It's hilarious how ASUS invests in vanity rather than pump/cooling tech.
I'm excited for the new memory. Better cooling, better compatibility for low profile coolers, and much better mounting. Dimms and their "snap in" installation is one of the worst parts of populating a motherboard.
Why do they have to have flashing lights on the ceiling. Can't watch this video due to those flashing lights. It gives me such as headache.
Can't we theoretically have CAMM RAM on the backside of the motherboard? Seems fairly flat, should fit.
I just cant get excited about new tech knowing the prices will be absolutely eye watering because of greed rather than material cost.
I hope asus do not ruin their boards by soldering diodes in opposite polarity like they did on the z690 boards , I really hope they go back to being a high quality brand if not Im moving to a competitor
I wish ASUS wasn't essentially the worst, their proart line is so good. It's adult computers
Asus - "for those who dare" to try and get warranty support.
7x 4090 is crazy when I can't even afford one
What is that? AIO for Bees? :)
ASUS ? No thanks
por estas cosas de Asus si pagaria
Why is there RGB on ProArt products?
ASUS is a prime example of good engineers with terrible PR, Management, etc.
tiny cooling channels.
clog in a month?
impossible to clean?
We dont buy Asus any more.
G'day Roman,
🤔A SUS AlphaCool AIO, does this mean A SUS might be moving away from ASSTek as their supplier ???
Edit: althogh the 3D printed plate suggests not
7 x 4090s.......freakin wild
Lots of very fancy products that I won’t touch. It’s all crap if you’re going to be SOL if something goes wrong
I've been buying Asus for years and years, Motherboards, GPUs, WiFi Routers, ect... and not one time have I had an issue with any of them. No failures, No RMA and if I'm going to buy a Warrenty it's going to be from Amazon, not the manufacturer because it's always a pain in the butt and I rather just get my money back.
I can't wait for them to break and ASUS bill you for an RMA for water damage.
I want 8x PCIe x16 slots at x16 speed.
At this rate we might as well just plaster a whole iPad on an AIO
Hi!
Funny how "asus" and "high quality" are mentioned in the same sentence ^^
Asus, sorry need to go to the toilet to barf..
It's funny how you jump betwine the kindergraden level AIO and the engineer level direct die
Wait till you need to RMA it, then you pay 3000$ to fix it
1. I have no idea why anyone wants to pay a premium for a screen on their aio.
2. Bendy screen is cool until it breaks and you need it repaired under waranty.
Too bad ASUS hasn't shown the future of their tech support...
Pretty much all the brands have been indicated in "scandal". I will continue making my purchase decisions based on performance and personal experience.
Its sucks others had issues with "X" brand but all are in business for $$$ and non of them perfect angles. Improvements need to be made across the board but I'm not interested in virtue signaling outrage that I haven't experienced first hand.
I'm not going to potentially screw myself out of a great product like this. Maybe things would be slightly different if the other companies all had stellar reputations.
If you feel so inclined to "stick it to ASUS" do it with your actions, words are cheap.
Obligatory comment acknowledging the latest outrage explained to me by my various tech dads.
ASUS has got lots of work to do before I buy something from them again. That's really too bad because they traditionally have had great products and support but the company seems to have lost their way.
Don't do Asus anymore.
too bad im now boycotting ASUS due to their shady CS and RMA practices. Sad because I have the x570 ROG formula motherboard and really liked it. My AM5 platform will be built in 4-6 months and im budgeting 4.5k usd, and ASUS wont see a single penny, neither will corsair.
ASUS is that good looking person you see at the bar, but your good friend Steve warns you "Watch out...they're bad news and you're gonna have a bad time if you risk it." In other words, maybe ASUS is the venereal disease of companies? 😅
Was that a HDMI-cable on the AIO? LoL, just a week or couple ago I was looking for small screens for one project and those, even flexible ones, are like $50, $70 if you want a fancy phone quality screen because you need HDMI-adapter for them. Those screen are pretty much the biggest scam in the tech world now right after ASUS customer support.
I won't be buying Asus products anytime soon. Overpriced and scams the consumer? Hard pass.
Too bad ASUS will scam you when you have a warranty issue.
Well, for all ASUS innovations they may try will not make a difference, they are no longer a viable brand for me. They are probably on a 5 year ban in my house unless they manage to pull off in incredible redemption arc. It wouldn't matter if they delivered 30% more performance at 30% lower price, I will not give a single cent to scammers.
They've been pretty popular in my home until now: 11 pcs mostly MB and GFX (also 1 laptop). Time to take the last trash out.
ASUS still makes good products, but people are still upset...
They might make some good products, yes. But it's a crapshoot whether you actually get support when something goes wrong.
SCAMMERS
Hope you don't have to return it.
Screw Asus.