wishlist: 6k open gate,(support for internal anamorphic shooting), 3rd native iso, 12 or 14 bit video of some sort, floating point audio would be crazy. Then for the fx6 upgrade same specs but with internal nd.
I don't think the A7Siv will have an internal ND, but it's possible that the FX3 ii might. It's currently reserved for the FX6 and higher and I don't see that changing anytime soon. There is an FX3 firmware update coming soon that at least gives us shutter angle so that's a start!
Fair enough.. I know it’s not impossible as the Fuji-film X100v had internal ND’s.. I shoot on the BMPCC 6K pro & the internal ND’s are one of the big reasons I can’t leave em. if Sony or Panasonic incorporate it I feel a lot filmmakers/videographers/content creators would drop what they have to get on that system..
@@666size666 the camera’s record gyro data so if you use da Vinci resolve to edit your footage it’s literally just 2 clicks in the software to add the stabilisation from the gyro data.. but yes autofocus would be good but there’s also the DJI focus pro 🤔
Yes, on all these points! After seeing Canons C400, I am now more confident in the ability to increase resolution while maintaining that dynamic range. I know the sensor tech is very different but I think 6k has to be the new standard across for video along with great lowlight sensitivity. Here's hoping!!
If dynamic range is within a stop of A7Siii and it offers uncropped 6K60 open gate, it will set a new standard for mirrorless tech. I think it's going to be announced way sooner than people realize. Sony has been waaaaaay too quiet!
@@RandumbTech I think you might be right (as well as hope)... I was at CineGear today and watched a presentation about the Sony burano and they were all being really cagey about that camera still too. It's hard to explain but I get the sense that maybe multiple cameras are being tested behind closed doors as we speak. The fx9ii and fx6ii should be ready as a retort to the c400 as well
my goodness I hope you are right. also I hope it comes with shutter angle, waveforms, and anamorphic supports so I don't have to listen to people mention it anymore. They will have to cripple the photo specs (I assume no mechanical shutter), otherwise it's the only camera they will sell. Could be a potential GOAT camera is Sony goes all in.
If it doesn't have a mechanical shutter, that sensor readout speed better be quick. I've tried using my FX30 as a stills camera occasionally and it's just not good with the electronic shutter. I doubt it will have any video specific assist tools - they will save that for the FX3 ii so that they can further differentiate the two. The only thing I've used is Zebras that's more than enough for the average user.
6k open gate hahaha! Panasonic have that almost 2 years ago and its less than a half price of sony....we need more. The only thing that really change sony would be a internal real raw recording. But i think if they not have a new sensor, its no make so much sense to release a new a7s for that prices
Yes LUMIX (and Fuji) have had 6K open gate for a few years now, it still hasn't come to Sony yet. I would bet my next paycheck that the next A7Siv will have 6K open gate. Very few people record in raw format because the files sizes are HUGE. Unless they can somehow compress the files internally, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
@@RandumbTech yes, but there would be the cpmplete camera if thet add a compress raw like Black magic. well, or i wait a BMPCC with autofocus and stabilization haha...
Not necessarily. I don't think a lot of people cross shop BlackMagic and Sony - but I could be wrong. Sony can absolutely command a premium at this point given their performance and reliability edge compared to the competition. They price their gear just high enough where they can put it on sale occasionally and generate a bunch of new orders.
As long as there is no global shutter, it will still be affordable. I think $4k is ultimately where it's going to land. And for that price and what it will be able to do, I believe that would be a fair price.
Sony has been super hush hush on it, but I think it get's announced in the next 90 days and shipping by the fall. It's going to be a challenge to get one from the initial batch so I plan to pre-order.
I can assure you that even A7 s9000 In the year 8746 won't shoot open gate Sony just don't care or they wants you to pay for a license to have it They should at least put it in the burano
They need to in order to stay competitive. They already have the full sensor readout for stills, they just need to enable it for video. The challenge for Sony will be keeping it cool enough so it doesn't overheat.
A9 mk 1 sensor is all that needed, just need all the bells and whistles of video, and no need for e-shutter either….. At least not super necessary. But i won’t buy it, they’ll make an fx version soon after 😂😂😂😂😂, THAT i would buy
I can totally see them using that older sensor. Fast readout speed and right MP. Personally, I prefer having a built-in EVF. I actually sold my FX3 yesterday because I've been using the A7Siii so much more. I'm glad they offer both though.
The FX30 can already shoot 6k opengate but Sony CRIPPLE it because they have to protect the FX3. This crap and Other stuff is why I left Sony and never looking back.
I don't think any Sony currently shoots open gate, but I could be wrong. It's a feature that people are looking for and will almost certainly be in the next iteration of Sony cameras - especially Cine line.
12MP is not enough for 6K open gate so it needs at least 20MP+. The S line is one of Sony's best selling cameras - there is no way they don't update it.
wishlist: 6k open gate,(support for internal anamorphic shooting), 3rd native iso, 12 or 14 bit video of some sort, floating point audio would be crazy. Then for the fx6 upgrade same specs but with internal nd.
Oooooh, I like ALL of that!! Esp the 32-bit floating point. Can't believe LUMIX beat Sony to the market with that feature in the new GH7.
Off course it will be stacked. It 100% must be a stacked sensor to support that readout.
Not necessarily. But I suppose anything is possible. Perhaps they will use the stacked sensor from the A9ii?
internal ND's would change the handheld mirrorless industry
I don't think the A7Siv will have an internal ND, but it's possible that the FX3 ii might. It's currently reserved for the FX6 and higher and I don't see that changing anytime soon. There is an FX3 firmware update coming soon that at least gives us shutter angle so that's a start!
Fair enough.. I know it’s not impossible as the Fuji-film X100v had internal ND’s.. I shoot on the BMPCC 6K pro & the internal ND’s are one of the big reasons I can’t leave em.
if Sony or Panasonic incorporate it I feel a lot filmmakers/videographers/content creators would drop what they have to get on that system..
they done it with the zv1... so if they *really* want they can do it.
@@temuerasamuel If BM put AF and some sort of stabilization in the pocket CC I would never stray from them.
@@666size666 the camera’s record gyro data so if you use da Vinci resolve to edit your footage it’s literally just 2 clicks in the software to add the stabilisation from the gyro data.. but yes autofocus would be good but there’s also the DJI focus pro 🤔
Yes, on all these points! After seeing Canons C400, I am now more confident in the ability to increase resolution while maintaining that dynamic range. I know the sensor tech is very different but I think 6k has to be the new standard across for video along with great lowlight sensitivity. Here's hoping!!
If dynamic range is within a stop of A7Siii and it offers uncropped 6K60 open gate, it will set a new standard for mirrorless tech. I think it's going to be announced way sooner than people realize. Sony has been waaaaaay too quiet!
@@RandumbTech I think you might be right (as well as hope)... I was at CineGear today and watched a presentation about the Sony burano and they were all being really cagey about that camera still too. It's hard to explain but I get the sense that maybe multiple cameras are being tested behind closed doors as we speak. The fx9ii and fx6ii should be ready as a retort to the c400 as well
my goodness I hope you are right. also I hope it comes with shutter angle, waveforms, and anamorphic supports so I don't have to listen to people mention it anymore. They will have to cripple the photo specs (I assume no mechanical shutter), otherwise it's the only camera they will sell. Could be a potential GOAT camera is Sony goes all in.
If it doesn't have a mechanical shutter, that sensor readout speed better be quick. I've tried using my FX30 as a stills camera occasionally and it's just not good with the electronic shutter. I doubt it will have any video specific assist tools - they will save that for the FX3 ii so that they can further differentiate the two. The only thing I've used is Zebras that's more than enough for the average user.
@@RandumbTech assist tools seem to be all the rage on RUclips. I SO hope you are right with mechanical shutter.
6k open gate hahaha! Panasonic have that almost 2 years ago and its less than a half price of sony....we need more. The only thing that really change sony would be a internal real raw recording. But i think if they not have a new sensor, its no make so much sense to release a new a7s for that prices
Yes LUMIX (and Fuji) have had 6K open gate for a few years now, it still hasn't come to Sony yet. I would bet my next paycheck that the next A7Siv will have 6K open gate. Very few people record in raw format because the files sizes are HUGE. Unless they can somehow compress the files internally, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
@@RandumbTech yes, but there would be the cpmplete camera if thet add a compress raw like Black magic. well, or i wait a BMPCC with autofocus and stabilization haha...
Hi dear, what camera & lense did u use for making this video?
FX3 with the Sigma 24 f/1.4 DG DN. It's a great studio set up.
i think sony would consider their rival in fx3 with low cost it is BMPC6k
Not necessarily. I don't think a lot of people cross shop BlackMagic and Sony - but I could be wrong. Sony can absolutely command a premium at this point given their performance and reliability edge compared to the competition. They price their gear just high enough where they can put it on sale occasionally and generate a bunch of new orders.
@@RandumbTech agreed, just waiting for a7siv and fx3 mk 2 in this year, i heard now sony use 6k , 24 mp sensor in their cinema line
I pray it comes out with a fair price.
As long as there is no global shutter, it will still be affordable. I think $4k is ultimately where it's going to land. And for that price and what it will be able to do, I believe that would be a fair price.
i think sony would consider their rival in fx3 with low cost it is BMPC6k
we just need to Know when ! ? :-)
I think it'll be announced in the next 90 days. Hoping, at least!
I'm hearing a 24 mp sensor. If it has Open Gate, then it's a buy for me.
Me too! I'm just about to list my A7Siii for sale in anticipation 🤣
@@RandumbTech What's the potential release date?
Sony has been super hush hush on it, but I think it get's announced in the next 90 days and shipping by the fall. It's going to be a challenge to get one from the initial batch so I plan to pre-order.
I can assure you that even A7 s9000 In the year 8746 won't shoot open gate
Sony just don't care or they wants you to pay for a license to have it
They should at least put it in the burano
They need to in order to stay competitive. They already have the full sensor readout for stills, they just need to enable it for video. The challenge for Sony will be keeping it cool enough so it doesn't overheat.
I see yall want every camera to be a cinema camera cuz that’s what you’re talking about
A9 mk 1 sensor is all that needed, just need all the bells and whistles of video, and no need for e-shutter either….. At least not super necessary.
But i won’t buy it, they’ll make an fx version soon after 😂😂😂😂😂, THAT i would buy
I can totally see them using that older sensor. Fast readout speed and right MP. Personally, I prefer having a built-in EVF. I actually sold my FX3 yesterday because I've been using the A7Siii so much more. I'm glad they offer both though.
The FX30 can already shoot 6k opengate but Sony CRIPPLE it because they have to protect the FX3. This crap and
Other stuff is why I left Sony and never looking back.
I don't think any Sony currently shoots open gate, but I could be wrong. It's a feature that people are looking for and will almost certainly be in the next iteration of Sony cameras - especially Cine line.
There is no point in updating the S line. TODAY cameras can fully downsample rather than use low res sensors.
12MP is not enough for 6K open gate so it needs at least 20MP+. The S line is one of Sony's best selling cameras - there is no way they don't update it.