Would love to see this with DCT and stop and go adaptive cruise. Would be perfect combo for city traffic, road trips, and performance driving in an affordable package. Maybe they will add ACC with Elantra N...
What an awesome hot hatch! My 2014 Fiesta ST has only one payment left before I own it, but this is a great option used in the future if I decide to change.
My 2014 fist st is paid for ha ha.. but I test drove the 19 N when it first came out I was impressed very good car but ultimately I decided to keep the little ST.. main reason you may ask?? I just didn't want 4 or 5 more years of payments.. I now have 160,000 miles on it and have only 3 things go wrong. The blow off valve, the evap purge valve, and the electric boost controller and that's it!! I just put a timing belt, water pump, tensioner and clutch ( the clutch still had 40% left at 130,000 mi ) all of which was less than 2,000 parts and labor. So it should be good for another 130,000 miles payment free driving.. hope this helps you out in you decision..
@@phillipmitchell1418 lol your one of a kind then.. I’ve worked directly for Ford retailer when we actual sold those vehicles and there was nothing but trouble ... repairs non stop and constant visits to service shop. Our bays where always full of them and RS. I was happy when they said they won’t make anymore due to how many customers we had coming in for repairs or trading out at our sister Lott Subaru for wrx lol
You deserve way more views on your videos. Great review as always. I picked up a 2020 Veloster N about 10 months ago and love it to bits. Averaging close to 1500 miles a month on it because it's too much fun to just be a commuter. Trying to convince my partner she needs a DCT one so we can have a his and hers.
First, congrats and I agree. She should bet the DCT. That would be a killer garage. Second, I appreciate your thoughts on our channel, we hear that all the time, but have you shared this and have you shared it on Reddit? That's the only way growth happens!
@@BrianMakse dct :) Btw, it really makes a difference in viewing someone with extensive knowledge/experience in automobiles and racing, thoroughly put a car through its paces. Lots of reviewers out there who focus on pure entertainment value in doing "reviews,"(or generic and repetitive comments on speed, sound, and criticisms on "cheap-feeling interior") but I appreciate this angle on a review. Viewing your review has put to rest all of my reservations in deciding whether to put my order in for one. Thanks and look forward to seeing more of your reviews👍.
Your thoughts on how the Veloster puts power down coming out of corners reminds me of how my mk6 GTI behaves (also equipped with brake actuated limited slip). If you drive like a ham-fisted yobbo that treats the throttle like an on/off switch it is about as happy as you'd expect, but with a smooth throttle foot and sensitive hand it has a surprising amount of grip for driving out of corners. The only time I ever manage to get any wheel slip is at high steering angles at low speeds in second gear on really tight backroads, and even then there's no push; the "e-diff" does its work and the car pulls like it should. A lot of people bad-mouth these brake based limited slip systems but I find them to be surprisingly effective with my only real criticism being that they don't provide the same amount of tactile feedback to the driver when they're working as a real limited slip differential. The cars I've driven with torsen type differentials up front kind of tugged at the steering wheel a bit when they were working, with the GTI I have to listen for the inside tire to slip/stop/slip/stop as the brake pulses. Thanks for another great review, if I wasn't happy with the hot hatch I already have I'd probably have a closer look at this one. I'm not too excited for the mk8 GTI as I'm not a fan of nearly every function being behind a touch screen.
Glad you enjoyed. Hope you stick around. Brake-based faux-LSD/anti-wheelspin systems are generally the cheap way out and they seem to skip steps in development before they unleash them on customers. The only decent ones I've encountered have belonged to McLarens, but I'm pretty picky.
Dear Hyundai Veloster N Division, I hope you are reading this. Here are some Cons I would like to address. 1.) There’s an excessive glare on front windshield. 2.) Cabin noise from road. 3.) Please add heated seats and heated steering wheel. 4.) If heated seats can be added, why not add ventilated seats, global warming is increasing the temperature and it’s very hot/humid during summer. 5.) Plastic interior feels and look cheap for a $34K car. I hope the 2022 model addresses these Cons, if not I will go for Mazda 3 Turbo hatchback instead.
NGS sets the car immediatly into its fastest setup possible for 20secs. If ur already in Sport or Sport+ the power wont change u dont get any extra torque. Just matters if u are in eco or normal. 7th and 8th gear do only work in eco. Or normal. They are not used in other engine modes.
@@BrianMakse For me, causing the FWD to rotate unnaturally, even it gains some time on a particular track is handicapping the car (cause it'll probably be toxic in the next race track and streets). If it can go full throttle on the sweepers, then the rest can be compensated by brake technique. Front drives need a front end that can bite-in during braking, which requires it being nose heavy. The side-effect is a planted rear-end and full throttle in the transitions. When I see a front drive 3-wheeling it around a turn, I view it as a complete fail. I'm constantly seeing pro racecar drivers trying to make a front drive behave like a rear drive, which is plain wrong. The car just needs to be driven differently.
@@BrianMakse I had a race prep'd NB Miata all over my ass on the twisties, but slower on the straights. My current k20c2 is stock setup (except brakes and rpf1's), but you're right...even with mods, I don't think I'd ever get to that Miata's level in the twisties. However, transferring weight around before the apex or forcing a drift, is still too much fun to handicap the front driver's natural ability. I'd move on to an RWD vs dumbing it down.
So fellas what's a better transmission for handling a modded VN? I'm having hell trying to figure out what transmission could hand more power/ be reliable but I'm guessing DCT is best....?!?!? Please enlighten me, ty everyone!
@@BrianMakse Ok I was confused about that, I drove to the next state over and got a DCT model in Chalk White. I even got a pretty good deal on it . I got a really nice trade value for my 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth. I think it was because I was not going to be driving back from 250 miles away. One strike at me and I made it count.
Great review! So is this better than the MK7.5 GTI with DSG from an overall fun perspective? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I think most would agree the GTI is the better looking hatch.
It certainly puts down all of its power more effectively. The dynamics of the N are a bit better sorted overall. Design? The GTI is getting kind of old, isn’t it?
Surely its faster than a Golf GTI. Its like a GTI TCR. For looks we have the i30N instead of veloster in europe. I30N looking way better than veloster or GTI :)
I'm torn between the red and the baby blue. I've always owned red cars be it a ND Miata or a Suzuki Swift but the red VN looks similar to a plain jane Veloster. I guess baby blue separates the VN from a regular V and it's the one to get. What do you guys think?
Brian, nice review. Where abouts in California were you driving? Looks very familiar, road? I've drove both the DCT and manual and much preferred rowing my own gears so I bought a 2020 Performance Blue manual at dealer cost. If you want the quickest lap times get the DCT, if you want more fun, more driver involvement and engagement then get the manual for sure.
This is actually way faster than Honda CTR on a track and just as fast as the previous generation amg a45. You don’t get this level performance at this price anywhere. Get it before you have to pay the premium like people do on telluride
This is not faster than CTR on track if you have a pro driver in both. The Korean video you possibly saw saying this is faster was tuned (ECU) & heavily modified and tracked against a stock CTR. It’s not type r level performance unless this gets the 2.5T.
@@frf1670 I'd certainly give it a try, but I generally don't have time for track testing. There are near zero RUclipsrs I'd trust to drive these things to their limits in order to gather reliable data.
Fair enough. The stick is as good as the dct. We’ve got a few weeks’ of the drip coming. The 765 and Huracan episodes are fab, gonna take some time to cut those properly.
@@BrianMaksegood question. I'd say it depends on what's your reasoning or purpose for the car. If you're planning on tracking it, the DCT would be better for the lap times for sure. I actually like the DCT. Had 1 in my 18 Hyundai Elantra Sport. But every time I get outta a 6speed, I miss it & go right back. Lol.
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I just got this exact spec car and I always have a smile on my face when I drive it or think about driving it.
Mega congrats! Enjoy! Hope you stick around the channel!
So did i, even got the same colour and here in Canada, we get the heated steering wheel and seats, just in time for the cooler weather here in BC
@@desire68frogman98
How's it holding up so far?
Bought my Blue DCT N a month ago. LUUUUUV IT!
Congrats! Enjoy! Hope you stick around!
As a GTI DSG owner well done Hyundai keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
As a first time driver, I’d definitely want this to be my first car. Thank you for the this review. 😊
Good choice!
Nice review! Your enthusiasm came through about it and made me more curious about a car I'd never consider.
Heavy for a smaller car.
So much fun!
First video of the channel and my favorite N product review to date. Subscribed.
I just got one last week in performance blue and I love it!!!
Congrats! Enjoy!
Would love to see this with DCT and stop and go adaptive cruise. Would be perfect combo for city traffic, road trips, and performance driving in an affordable package. Maybe they will add ACC with Elantra N...
Elantra N may be the reason they’ve withheld it from Veloster.
What an awesome hot hatch! My 2014 Fiesta ST has only one payment left before I own it, but this is a great option used in the future if I decide to change.
Love the FiST! This would be a good move afterwards, very much in the same spirit.
My 2014 fist st is paid for ha ha.. but I test drove the 19 N when it first came out I was impressed very good car but ultimately I decided to keep the little ST.. main reason you may ask?? I just didn't want 4 or 5 more years of payments.. I now have 160,000 miles on it and have only 3 things go wrong. The blow off valve, the evap purge valve, and the electric boost controller and that's it!! I just put a timing belt, water pump, tensioner and clutch ( the clutch still had 40% left at 130,000 mi ) all of which was less than 2,000 parts and labor. So it should be good for another 130,000 miles payment free driving.. hope this helps you out in you decision..
@@phillipmitchell1418 that's the way to do it. We're not big believers in leasing or financing on this channel.
@@phillipmitchell1418 lol your one of a kind then.. I’ve worked directly for Ford retailer when we actual sold those vehicles and there was nothing but trouble ... repairs non stop and constant visits to service shop. Our bays where always full of them and RS. I was happy when they said they won’t make anymore due to how many customers we had coming in for repairs or trading out at our sister Lott Subaru for wrx lol
Veloster will be a huuuuge upgrade :)
Car and driver did testing on the track with a 0-60 in 4.8 sec, that was after several attempts with most in 5.1- 5.5 sec range- so it can be done
Still boring. Those magazine folks may be good at acceleration, just don’t ask them to brake and turn.
You deserve way more views on your videos. Great review as always. I picked up a 2020 Veloster N about 10 months ago and love it to bits. Averaging close to 1500 miles a month on it because it's too much fun to just be a commuter. Trying to convince my partner she needs a DCT one so we can have a his and hers.
First, congrats and I agree. She should bet the DCT. That would be a killer garage. Second, I appreciate your thoughts on our channel, we hear that all the time, but have you shared this and have you shared it on Reddit? That's the only way growth happens!
This is the best review I have seen so far of the new veloster N. My next car👍.
Glad you enjoyed! The car is awesome. Dual clutch or manual?
@@BrianMakse dct :)
Btw, it really makes a difference in viewing someone with extensive knowledge/experience in automobiles and racing, thoroughly put a car through its paces. Lots of reviewers out there who focus on pure entertainment value in doing "reviews,"(or generic and repetitive comments on speed, sound, and criticisms on "cheap-feeling interior") but I appreciate this angle on a review.
Viewing your review has put to rest all of my reservations in deciding whether to put my order in for one. Thanks and look forward to seeing more of your reviews👍.
Brian if possible, if you got the resource, Please do performance comparison between FK8R and VN DCT.. maybe some drag testing or track time attack..
Totally my jam. And I’m qualified to execute that properly.
Subscribed brotha. Incredible review
Thanks Rick!
When I graduate in a year from college I want one with a manual in the blue to replace my e46 325ci manual
Do it!
Great job rich kid
@@wuming9151 is this a joke?
@@BrianMakse yeah kinda humor isn’t it
I don't see any humour.
Have one love it, nothing comes close for the price. Great video
Thanks, DF! Enjoy!
5 Reasons for the Manual.
>lighter weight
>real handbrake
>louder exhaust
>more fun
>more affordable
You’re only got four there.
I have a 2020 manual and love it!!
Your thoughts on how the Veloster puts power down coming out of corners reminds me of how my mk6 GTI behaves (also equipped with brake actuated limited slip). If you drive like a ham-fisted yobbo that treats the throttle like an on/off switch it is about as happy as you'd expect, but with a smooth throttle foot and sensitive hand it has a surprising amount of grip for driving out of corners. The only time I ever manage to get any wheel slip is at high steering angles at low speeds in second gear on really tight backroads, and even then there's no push; the "e-diff" does its work and the car pulls like it should.
A lot of people bad-mouth these brake based limited slip systems but I find them to be surprisingly effective with my only real criticism being that they don't provide the same amount of tactile feedback to the driver when they're working as a real limited slip differential. The cars I've driven with torsen type differentials up front kind of tugged at the steering wheel a bit when they were working, with the GTI I have to listen for the inside tire to slip/stop/slip/stop as the brake pulses.
Thanks for another great review, if I wasn't happy with the hot hatch I already have I'd probably have a closer look at this one. I'm not too excited for the mk8 GTI as I'm not a fan of nearly every function being behind a touch screen.
Glad you enjoyed. Hope you stick around.
Brake-based faux-LSD/anti-wheelspin systems are generally the cheap way out and they seem to skip steps in development before they unleash them on customers. The only decent ones I've encountered have belonged to McLarens, but I'm pretty picky.
Dear Hyundai Veloster N Division,
I hope you are reading this. Here are some Cons I would like to address.
1.) There’s an excessive glare on front windshield.
2.) Cabin noise from road.
3.) Please add heated seats and heated steering wheel.
4.) If heated seats can be added, why not add ventilated seats, global warming is increasing the temperature and it’s very hot/humid during summer.
5.) Plastic interior feels and look cheap for a $34K car.
I hope the 2022 model addresses these Cons, if not I will go for Mazda 3 Turbo hatchback instead.
How old are you?
41 years old
I want one soooo very bad. These look like so much fun.
They're so good!
Road & Track did 4.8 sec 0-60 mph. Not sure why you think 5.6 sec is optimistic.
Real world vs absolutely perfect conditions.
@@BrianMakse Road & Track doesn’t test under real world conditions? I don’t think they were at a drag strip with slicks to get that time.
@@BrianMakse Seems like most VN DCT owners were getting 5.2 sec or lower.
They don’t do it on public roads.
@@BrianMakse You should try yourself.
Everyone should drive cars with DCT, CVT, AMT, AT, Plug-in Hybrids.
EV only, dude. Come on.
Would love to see you try out the upcoming elantra N when it becomes available in N. America.
Thanks! That's the plan!
NGS sets the car immediatly into its fastest setup possible for 20secs. If ur already in Sport or Sport+ the power wont change u dont get any extra torque. Just matters if u are in eco or normal. 7th and 8th gear do only work in eco. Or normal. They are not used in other engine modes.
is all dealerships put the markups price in all Veloster N?
No
How did this feel compared to the Type R Brian?
Quicker, certainly, and a bit more balanced all around. So much easier to put power down in the N.
@@BrianMakse I suspect Type-R's longer wheelbase would shine more on the wet stuff.
@@psewgobind true, but you want an FWD car to rotate. in general, even in the wet, a more stable FWD car is actually slower through corners.
@@BrianMakse For me, causing the FWD to rotate unnaturally, even it gains some time on a particular track is handicapping the car (cause it'll probably be toxic in the next race track and streets). If it can go full throttle on the sweepers, then the rest can be compensated by brake technique. Front drives need a front end that can bite-in during braking, which requires it being nose heavy. The side-effect is a planted rear-end and full throttle in the transitions. When I see a front drive 3-wheeling it around a turn, I view it as a complete fail. I'm constantly seeing pro racecar drivers trying to make a front drive behave like a rear drive, which is plain wrong. The car just needs to be driven differently.
@@BrianMakse I had a race prep'd NB Miata all over my ass on the twisties, but slower on the straights. My current k20c2 is stock setup (except brakes and rpf1's), but you're right...even with mods, I don't think I'd ever get to that Miata's level in the twisties. However, transferring weight around before the apex or forcing a drift, is still too much fun to handicap the front driver's natural ability. I'd move on to an RWD vs dumbing it down.
Do the new seats come on the manual version as well?
Yes sir 👍🏻
They're SO MUCH BETTER thank last year's seats.
I want one. I hear rumors they are going to stop production for good. Any word from anyone?
It’s going out of production.
So fellas what's a better transmission for handling a modded VN? I'm having hell trying to figure out what transmission could hand more power/ be reliable but I'm guessing DCT is best....?!?!? Please enlighten me, ty everyone!
Not available in Canada/USA ?
I got one a month ago and I am loving it.
@@vaejoviscarolinanus Ben is referring to the home market 4-piston brake caliper upgrade, I think. If I buy one, I'll be importing that kit for sure.
@@vaejoviscarolinanus Also, congrats, David! Which colour did you get? DCT or manual?
@@BrianMakse
Ok I was confused about that, I drove to the next state over and got a DCT model in Chalk White. I even got a pretty good deal on it . I got a really nice trade value for my 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth. I think it was because I was not going to be driving back from 250 miles away. One strike at me and I made it count.
Cant find this car anywhere! At this point i dont care if manual or dct but prefer dct since im tired of driving manual transmission in traffic of LA!
I drove both in LA traffic. Pick your poison, it’s all good!
I got mine out of state. Extremely difficult to find in cali at the moment.
Do not use dct in stop n go traffic.
@@merrichoang what?
First :) good job, nice car
Second!
Great review! So is this better than the MK7.5 GTI with DSG from an overall fun perspective? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but I think most would agree the GTI is the better looking hatch.
It certainly puts down all of its power more effectively. The dynamics of the N are a bit better sorted overall. Design? The GTI is getting kind of old, isn’t it?
Surely its faster than a
Golf GTI. Its like a GTI TCR. For looks we have the i30N instead of veloster in europe. I30N looking way better than veloster or GTI :)
When you spec it out how come there was no n performance 4 pot break upgrade
Not available here, maybe throughs some aftermarket channels, definitely not as original equipment nor at the dealer.
the only question i guess is do i get this or wait for the elantra N
Hatch or four doors? Current or next-gen features?
I’ve seen this car go 0-60 in 4.8
In your imagination?
@@BrianMakse nope, got 4.9 when I test drove it
@@africanavenger5786 were you counting in your head?
@@BrianMakse lol, it shows you the time on the screen. I did it with launch control and ngs on and that was the lowest time I got
@@BrianMakse there are a number of youtube videos showing under5 second 0-60
I'm torn between the red and the baby blue. I've always owned red cars be it a ND Miata or a Suzuki Swift but the red VN looks similar to a plain jane Veloster. I guess baby blue separates the VN from a regular V and it's the one to get. What do you guys think?
Black with red stripe delete!
Brian, nice review.
Where abouts in California were you driving?
Looks very familiar, road?
I've drove both the DCT and manual and much preferred rowing my own gears so I bought a 2020 Performance Blue manual at dealer cost.
If you want the quickest lap times get the DCT, if you want more fun, more driver involvement and engagement then get the manual for sure.
Thanks, Doug. Congrats on the car! Well done! That's mostly Orange County roads in this episode.
Does it bounce off the rev limiter or auto upshift? This affects performance during autocross.
Yes, it holds gears!
@@BrianMakse That is a clear cut advantage in favor of the N over the GTI. Big ticket item for enthusiasts!
Biermann and his team do good work. (I’m the wrong guy to talk to about autocross in any kind of detail.)
did you just compare this to a nsx
I don't recall, this was two years ago.
Do you still get good exhaust burbles with this? I know it’s a different setup than a manual.
Did you watch this video with the sound on?
I would say the manual is a little louder ,yes their a little different ,they have different part numbers,some people change to manual exhaust ..
Veloster N or GTI?????
VN if you prefer performance. GTI is you want a mix
GTI has a bonus door...does that count for something?
I got a 2013 veloster turbo , all pimped out i love the new one but il wait for a price drop , still enjoying my old one
This one is a night and day difference. I enjoyed yours back in the day, but this thing is next level.
Love my manual ,sweet love mine
Right on!
Hyundai like Genisis protects the trans from full torque for a little bit. Loong warranty on that thing.
Doesn't seem like it from the driver's seat. Anybody confirmed this on a dyno?
great review and a neat car. not a FWD fan but this car seems like a handful of fun!
It is!
Nice car for younger buyers Good review
👍
Time to upgrade my yaris
This would be quite the upgrade.
This is actually way faster than Honda CTR on a track and just as fast as the previous generation amg a45. You don’t get this level performance at this price anywhere. Get it before you have to pay the premium like people do on telluride
Have any qualified drivers done back to back instrumented testing? I’m definitely curious.
This is not faster than CTR on track if you have a pro driver in both. The Korean video you possibly saw saying this is faster was tuned (ECU) & heavily modified and tracked against a stock CTR. It’s not type r level performance unless this gets the 2.5T.
@@BrianMakse For 2020, Rany Pobst did 1:34.46 on Type-R and 1:39.15 on VN
@@frf1670 I'd certainly give it a try, but I generally don't have time for track testing. There are near zero RUclipsrs I'd trust to drive these things to their limits in order to gather reliable data.
@@psewgobind which circuit, which spec of cars, and for whom?
DCT or MANUAL?
What do you value? Flawless and quicker acceleration or more driving engagement?
The DCT sounds fun, but banging gears is where my heart lies.
@brian Love the morphine drip of these California vids. Entertaining review -- although I'd naturally take the manual ;-)
Fair enough. The stick is as good as the dct.
We’ve got a few weeks’ of the drip coming. The 765 and Huracan episodes are fab, gonna take some time to cut those properly.
Ha...great title. I remember that video. Good times
Ha ha!
You and I have much different opinions of "good times"... haha. Personally, I don't like vomiting!
Buy the 6speed, people.
Why?
@@BrianMakse more enjoyable, of course. Lol.
This begs the question: what’s more enjoyable - shifting your own gears or being the quickest hot hatch at your local racing visitor?
@@BrianMaksegood question. I'd say it depends on what's your reasoning or purpose for the car. If you're planning on tracking it, the DCT would be better for the lap times for sure. I actually like the DCT. Had 1 in my 18 Hyundai Elantra Sport. But every time I get outta a 6speed, I miss it & go right back. Lol.
I do sort of wish I’d waited for the DCT but I got my 2020 N PP for $28K!
Got my 2021 dct for 18k lol
@@apple4apple247 the N or the turbo????
Not an N for $18K, unless it fell off the back of a truck.
@@BrianMakse my bad not 18k, 15k, veloster n turbo in performance blue
@@apple4apple247 bahahahahahaha!
+1 subscriber.. good video
Glad you enjoyed. Hope you stick around!
We're Canadian, we're awesome" Humble too!
Canadians are humble to a fault.
Love my 2020 veloster N manual better for 30.000
It costs less, that's for sure. Is that base or with Performance Pack?
Performance package only
Mine does 4.9 sec stock 0-60 lol
Lol indeed
Three doors, two clutches, one hatch. Too obvious?
RUclips told us the title was too long, obviously.
@@BrianMakse Those dweebs.
good review, definitely not a car i`d consider buying, design is really ugly and the screen is like it was added to the dashboard
Plenty of premium carmakers are doing the same screen. What do you think of the Type R's design?
"So approachable and not gonna bite you".
Meanwhile the front of the car looks like a snake. 😒