Two Months On A Trick Big Foot Pedal (Review)
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For all the haters.. yes he said the pedals help. Help is the key word. From playing Axis currently versus previous single chain driven pedals there is a difference. However, the drummer still has a large responsibility in changing their foot motion to adjust. SO Wyatt is right, in that they HELP and he mentioned the work he had to do to increase speed and adjust to the direct drive.
I think thats a really important distinction. I remember when i started double bass thats all anyone said "direct drive is the only way to go" its not. Theres a different feel and probably different effort. If I was touring or playing 5 hours a day, then I'm sure the direct drive would be less fatiguing.
But its technique, he even says the same thing around the 10 minute mark. I wouldn't want new drummers to become discouraged because they cant afford nicer gear. you can do it with cheaper pedals too. Just look at covers of bands like all that remains, or as blood runs black (I know there are much faster bands but these are just what I started learning with). The tempos are "slow"100-140ish, but they do a lot of 32nd note runs (thats equivalent to 200+ bpm with 16th notes). You'll see all kinds of people with all kinds of pedals pulling it off. Learn the proper technique and youre good to go.
Jackson Agar great point! It’s not like the pedals automatically boost you to 200bpm. Practice is still and always involved.
Youre right on there man. My biggest fear is retraining my feet amd heels caise it took years to get where I got already. I wanna get am sjc kit next year and I dunno.. May have to try this setup put and rethink everything. Btw, metal fucking rules! Horns ☝!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
If you have never played a direct drive pedal before, it’s fucking different. Dude is right on saying you will have to kind of adjust your technique. Everyone is different and some people may get on DD and figure it out in 5 min. It doesn’t have to mean you have to spend a year trying to get your technique right with type of pedal. Or it could. I would suggest everyone at least try a DD pedal. Doesn’t have to be Trick. Find what you like. You figure out the twitch motion, you will get faster.
me too I have the roddysigA21s but at 1200 bucks they don't come with a case either but your more connected than any chain pedal I'm not even fast and they help.
Having used speed corba's and then switched to Czarcie Kopyto... Yes, the pedal does make a difference.
Did you try Trick as well to compare if there's any difference?
How much of a difference? I have a trick drive shaft on my speed cobras but i’m still struggling to make my pedals feel even. And that’s made it hard to increase my speed
@@blakeesper I put the shaft on my DW 9002 and the difference was noticeable. Idk about the original shaft on your tama, but the one no the DW was not good at all. Maybe that's why the difference was substantial
I have to say, I am really excited to someday get to use an expensive double bass pedal. I’ve always played on crappy cheap versions or mid tier. I think dw3000 is about the highest end pedal I’ve used. I’ve never really complained. As long as you tweak them correctly they all work well. When people say a better pedal makes a big difference it really makes me wonder. Because I’m pretty freaking fast and precise on crappy pedals. How good would I be on a $1000 pedal? Lol
@@MisterRorschach90 There's a learning curve like most things, but if you feel like your current pedals are holding you back, moving to high grade gear is always a good move. No matter what anyone says about X piece of gear, it really is all on the player and how they feel playing it. That said, I blind bought the Trick low mass pair, and I'd do it again. I've played a pair of Kopytos, they're also fantastic, but I didn't find them so much better than the Tricks that I wanted to wait a year for them. ACD is another widely used pedal by metal drummers, they also make retrofits for pretty much any pedal.
for heel toe double strokes, I was playing these for several months, developing heel toe on them on a medium spring tension, a turn and a half back on the dials, got pretty solid at the 180-220 range, then tried cranking up the springs to max, and bam, I can do 260-280, even upward of 300. dayum.
300? Bullshit prove it
@@jord9261 300 with heel toe is not that special, many people can do it
@@magiisk2385 lets talk about pulling those speeds without triggers... thats the real impressive shit, its annoying to see twitchy dudes pulling off 300 when the beaters are barely making a sound. when you hear some powerful doubles its equally as impressive as hearing powerful singles with no triggers
@@endowednigerian show me a video of someone pulling off 16th notes at 300 bpm for more than a split second. It’s next to impossible. The amount of power you lose at those speeds makes it impossible to hit the drum without triggers and make it sound good. I’m not sure why there are still people out there who view triggers as some cheap parlor trick to get you to higher speeds. It still takes years of practice and control to get there, and then be able to do it evenly. Even George Kollias uses foot blaster triggers and he’s a beast.regardless of if you’re using the ankle technique or heel toe, or swivel, they’re necessary to reach those speeds consistently.
@@TheWolf92 i dont believe triggers are what you described them, but i hate when people only tap the kickdrum and leave all the work to the triggers! that is a cheap easy way out IMO, but if they are actually hitting the kickdrum with power but use triggers to help with the live setting so the rest of the band and crowd can hear the kicks then i have no problem with anyone using triggers. and yes it may take time to control the fast twitch at those super high tempos but that will never compare in my ears to a solid acoustic sound with balls! you might disagree but that is what i think
Wyatt put 3,4 inch plywood under your kit cover with carpet then use then use 1 inch wood screws in front and around the pedals leaving a little bit exposed to secure in place works very well! Keep rocking love you videos
Hey brother, just want to tell you, i really enjoy your vids. You do an amazing job with your explanations and opinions. I like how detailed yet simplistic you make everything. Thank you for all the content. Look forward to seeing your new project videos.
Dirk Verbeuren, Gene Hoglan, Frost, Hannes Grossman all play or played 16th notes at 240bpm+ for long passages with chain drives. I'm sure there are many more.
@@TheWitchOvAgnesi early days had nothing close to 16ths at 240+BPM. You really dont have a clue.
@@TheWitchOvAgnesi yeah if you consider Emperor, Dark Funeral Spawn of Possession and Gorgasm scene kid bands. Youre really embarrassing yourself here.
If they could do that consistently at that tempo with chain drives they could go probably around 260 if they switched to direct drive
Thank you so much for this review. You have just made me feel even more confident about my decision to buy this pedal. Also, I decided to add the Pro1-V hi-hat stand. I'm looking forward to their arrival and getting busy on them! Btw, I've enjoyed your drumming tutorials and reaction videos during the pandemic lockdown. I appreciate it.
I agree with you on the entire review, I love mine you got it all spot on. I velcro mine all over the bottom and use a roland drum mat and they stick like shit to a blanket! Yeah I really need a case too! I think a company call pelican ( not sure if that's correct) do loads of hard cases all all shapes and sizes, foam inserts etc. So glad you gave them a good review. They're just a great piece of design meets functionality. 👊
This is incredible I'm so happy you're getting so much better and faster! SO worth the 2 month wait! Love you!
What pedal do you play? - My collab is out now. Check my channel for announcement video.
DW 9000'S.....STILL🤔🤔🤔
@@ericking4072 Well those are great pedals! :)
PDP Concept direct drive double
I just bought this pedal based on your previous video and that I've been wanting to try a direct drive. I got the Bigfoot Black Widow Edition.
@@WyattStav -YOU SIR ARE CORRECT!I PAID GOOD $FOR THEM,BUT HAVE ASPIRED FOR AWHILE(YEARS😪)TO TRY AXIS.YOU HOWEVER HAVE BROUGHT ATTN.TO A SEEMINGLY BETTER RESULT.YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT A KICKASS PERCUSSIONIST YOU ARE BUT I'LL TELL YA AGAIN.YOU'RE A TRUE PLEASURE TO LISTEN TO!....TRULY INSPIRING.I'M 52 &I STILL PRACTICE TO METAL...KEEPS ME YOUNG!KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MAN!OOPS...P.S.HOW MUCH WAS THE PEDAL?$$
Badass drummer... every song he plays kills it....... Mad freaking Skills
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 100K!!!!! Solid content man, its been pretty cool to watch u blow up over the last year or so.
Hey Wyatt I have these in the black widow edition. I have found for myself that putting the chain conversion on these pedals was the ticket for me. All direct drive pedals have always felt more like a piece of springy exercise equipment to me. I would love to see you try the chains on these and see how you thought they compared to the direct drive. I have found no loss in speed with the chains on the Tricks in fact I find I can hold faster speeds longer with the chains. I think its all the top notch ingredients of these pedals (compression spring,ergonomics,and build quality) that make faster speeds maybe more achievable for some,and not just the direct drive link. When you are able I would love to see you put the chains on the tricks and do a direct comparison again against the speed cobras. If your willing to do so when you get time let me know I will buy the chains and send them to you or donate to your channel whatever works better for you. Thanks for the videos.
I am getting the Pro V1 and slapping the Trick Drums P1VCK Pro 1-V Chain Retrofit Chain Conversion Kit on em first thing.👍
That would defeat the purpose. If going the chain route, might as well go with a less expensive pedal such as Tama iron cobra
Iron cobras don’t have the same features and build quality as a trick pedal The compression spring on a trick gives it a totally different feel even with chain.
Can we take a second to appreciate Mike Dorfman? That man has changed the game.
Trick’s made some innovations that should and imo probably will become industry standards. I’m finally about to have one of their low mass double pedals myself.
Hey Wyatt. I think I said this in your previous video but I want to elaborate again. I own both Tricks and Czarcie Kopyto (pronounced Chachi Cohpito) and I can say that Czarcies are 1000 times better. They are super responsive (more so than tricks) and I've always found that the compression spring was a lot harder to control in comparison to the standard springs. You can also change the average constant tension with a virtically sliding locking mechanism just below the spring. I would seriously recommend getting a pair even though it's pretty expensive and hard to get. They will blow your mind.
Hey, just dropped by to comment and sub, 4 months ago I was replacing my Iron Cobras, and this review convinced me to buy the Bigfoot low mass double with no previous experience on them. Thanks so much!
Edit... I did not lose any power in the low mass version. Also, the "velcro" they included with my set were more like plastic spikes that don't let them move.... like even when I wanna pull them off my rug haha.
Ive experienced the situation of the slave pedal & the bass drum moving forward because while playing so i fix it by tying up the slave pedal into the throne & i also tied the bass drum into the throne..&i designed the tie to be comfortable&fast 4 me to set-up..& it works😁
.. Cause i dont have the budget to buy those pedals that u have..
So glad you mention Adam, simply love this dude!
Finally the video!!!!! AND congrats! A 100k subs. Im here since 14k. Big fan here Wyatt
I had the privilege to spend a few days at their shop in Illinois, where they build, design & create these great pedals & so much more. I am an FSE who traveled the world, installing custom laser marking systems and also a musician. I have to say... these are some of the coolest people you could ever meet! Every person there was a musician, mostly drummers of course. Super intelligent, yet down to earth. Met and spoke with Mike (founder and owner) many times. Great guy. He had a loft above the production floor which was their band's rehearsal area, and down on the work floor was the most badass drum kit I've ever seen in person. I think it was for quality testing of the builds, but it might have been just for inspiration and/or stress relief during a work day. Great place... best drum gear on the market!
hey Wyatt funny story: two years ago I was looking for a new pedal and I saw your video and you showed the logo of czarcie kopyto in your video. Now I own czarcie kopyto pedals. Great video and thank you for showing me this brand without that I would never even found out about this fantastic company.
Finally. I've waiting for this review video for sometime💯
My bigfoot developed a little squeak. Emailed the company, got a response in hours from the CEO who recommended getting a bit of Lucas Red 'n Tacky. Two minutes to apply a light coat to the rolling bits inside and it's good again. So be prepared, it can happen, but it's a simple fix. The rubbers that sit on the bass drum hoop like to get eaten by the hoop, that kind of sucks. I'm looking at some rubber putty type stuff to rebuild them. Nice review Wyatt!
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this review! I personally play on a set of Tama Iron Cobras Power Glide, I got the older version of them which I think they were made around 2010ish? Idk but I love those pedals🤘🏻
Still rocking my Demon Drives. I've never played on a Trick or an Axis, but considering I can do 270+ on my DDs I've never felt compelled to spend hundreds extra on another pedal, but God damn the Trick pedals just look so fucking good. I wish I could try them out, because if they were even .1% better I would probably have to get them, lol. Thanks for the video man
Anyone curious about direct drives of any sort coming from a chain drive. Listen at 10:07. This is really key for going “faster” Direct drives do not work for stomping or beater burying styles, in fact that’s exactly when they will feel incredibly weak and jagged. Just as importantly you must re examine your seating habits. Avoid putting any of your weight and stability for balance on the pedals, scoot further back on your throne even enough to have your ass hang off the back a bit. You should be able to take your feet off the pedals and not move or tip forward. This will allow you to “float” over the pedals. From there rather than stomping, you “flick” or “whip” the pedal so to speak.
Holy shit man I didn’t realize u were such a double bass beast! That was some brutal speed😎 it’s sick to see u using vratim drum shoes. I’m thinking about getting them
All of these direct drive pedals have the speed and power, it is still based on technique and your approach. I have pearl demon drive double and it is perfect. It is all opinion.
Right on! You still need to practice. To each his own when it comes to gear and technique.
I’m getting them soon
This review is absolute GOLD
All great info. Ordering now.
I've played with the same pair of Pearl Eliminators I received on my 15th birthday... 19 years ago. They're starting to fall apart and I'm in the market for a new pair. I'm really intrigued by the design of these pedals. I LOVE the ease of adjustments to spring tension. Just afraid of the price tag because my pedals would then be more valuable than the entire kit lol.
Yamaha FP9 is another great direct drive model ppl can get less than trick price it's $699 or less online. I payed like $700 OR LESS. sorry just thought I'd tell ppl. Great pedal .
Yamaha fp9 is chain or available in direct drive too.
Great review, pedal looks awesome!
I play a Yamaha dfp9 double with a strap drive.
I saw at least 3 big youtube reviewers say the same exact thing - that it was just as responsive as any pedal they've tried.
So I had to get one- best equipment decision I ever made! So fast and effortless!
Get a crash pad rug to keep the bass drum in place. Cheap, portable rug with a bass drum stop built in.... you and your throne are now the weight that keeps the bass from sliding away!
Man that tatt looks awesome man. I’m glad you did it right not crappy like A LOT of people I’ve seen.
Just ordered these bad boys! Your video helped so much. Super excited for these! Merry Christmas 🤘🤘
this came in my suggestions and I forgot I was waiting for the update! great video
The next time I can hold out from buying a couple grams of snow I’ll purchase this pedal. 10 years from now I’ll comment on this and I’ll say still in the struggle.
Killer video man, loved the breakdown and reality of playing double bass when trying a new pedal. All of this sounded all to real!
Would like to hear your thoughts on the Trick Pedal.
Hey man GREAT video, exactly what i was looking for considering buying them - thank you! I have one question, since you showed the spring tension knob/wheel: Is there also some sort of markers or numbers or anything to see where youre spring tension is at? Because I couldnt see any in the video? Like say tension is on 1,2,3,4,5 and so on?
I live for your videos 😂 they inspire me to better myself and be a all around badass 😂
Finally a good review on Trick Big Foot! Thank you, man! Can't wait to try out these pedals.
Congrats on 100k Now Pleasee React To Bring Me The Horizon Ludens
Been checking for your vid like every day man, and congrats on the 100k! Love the review, I had a feeling you'd take these pedals to an amazing level right off. Can you do a video or maybe a side note sometime to explain what exercises you did to help get that insane ankle twitch? That's money, I don't think I've ever met a drummer who can rise up that fast.
I love my Pro1-Vs. I’ve had them forever. 10 years I think. They’ve held up great. I’ve only had to replace one part due to threads stripping. I’ve played many, many shows with them so they’ve been through a lot. Trick makes great pedals, drums, and products. Their laser triggers are the most reliable triggers I’ve used.
Thanks for this video. I've been on the fence about certain pedals and this is one of them. Very informative. Thank you!
Czarcie Kopyto brother! Difference is that they are much better quality, construction,settings are insane there is a reason to metal drummers mostly use them. And yes I live in the states and yes there is a way to get them but I will not post it. But to give trick some props Kevin Paradis uses them and he is a monster at 300bpm
Powerserg 5000 could you dm me on Instagram or give me your IG or some way to contact you I’m ready to buy some czarcies but I need to find a way to get them in the US
Powerserg 5000 my Instagram is @Kane__michael if you’d like to send me a message I would really really appreciate it
@@Kane34572 sorry just saw message IG powerserg.50000
Daniel Williams the ex drummer from devil wears prada plays with Trick pedals and his drumming is very techy. Always been a big fan of these pedals.
Bro you are so bad ass man iv been waiting on a real drummer to really break it down thank you
Hi Wyatt,do you have any follow up on this? Really looking for that. Great video!!!
I was blown away how different of a feel it brings. It is so much more power I had to stop because my butt muscles hurt.
I could easily puncture my bass drum head. If I put this on a max hit setting
Yoooo this video came out so fucking great, the perfect combination of information, a review, and editing.
you could also try acd unlimited darwin pedals..i think they are great aswell and are in the same class if not they are higher
I'd say Trick, Czarcie Kopyto, and ACD are all in the same class.
Awesome review! @Wyatt, you mentioned that at 235 Tricks were easier than SC's. Is there any difference at 160? 99% of what I play is 200 bpm or less, with majority around 160. When you're at that speed, does it matter still? If you get on the tricks for a 160 song with extended db rolls, do you find it easier/better/maybe even not as good, than the SC's at those speeds? THANKS!!!!
This pedal rocks got an open box Black Widow from Sweetwater, having trouble fitting my foot under the tower for toe heel, appreciate your videos Wyatt!
An awesome drummer who provided a good no-bullshit assessment and not having a case for them is their only bullshit negative. Thanks for the review!
Would you do any technique videos? I was never taught a proper double kick/speed technique and it's really frustrating to not be consistent.
I played the Pro-1V for a few years (including the laser triggers they make for them). I kept having problems in the long run (snapping heads off of bolts, wearing down flat spots where the bearing rolls on the plate in front of the spring, stripping out the inside of the hub where the driveshaft connects, laser trigger cables dying mid tour). I switched to Czarcie Kopyto in May and I'm never getting another pair of pedals again. Perfect pedals. I can make them feel like literally any pedal I want and they're built like TANKS. If you can get your hands on them, do it.
- Mike Caputo (live drums, Rings of Saturn)
@@TheWitchOvAgnesi before Trick the list of pedals I owned was fairly short (Axis A Longboards, a very cheap pair of Pearl pedals, and Tama Iron Cobra 900's). That being said. I'm MORE THAN happy with the Czarcie Kopyto's that I have now. They're honestly perfect
@@TheWitchOvAgnesi I will say though, I can do basically everything I can do now on the Trick pedals, or even the Pearl Redlines (yes the chain pedals, I actually like them a lot). But the Czarcies just make everything require less effort. Trick is runner up though
I've been using my Iron Cobra since I bought it in 2000... The Power Glide cam version. Recently replaced the original Tama driveshaft with a Trick replacement shaft, and holy shit, it made that thing a whole new animal. Love the crap out of that thing, so smooth... Really feels like playing two separate kicks now!
is the song the saw is the law by whitechapel???
thats what i'm guessing too
It is, yeah! Can tell by the drums straight away! 😃🤘🏼
@@alfieshaw2931 Ikr i heard it and i was like hmmmm
Yup, Jared Dines just posted the video.
It is. Not just because of the video being posted, but the drumming. It's so.. Ben Harclerode.
I have these , I got the demo version from sweetwater for 700 and they were brand new pretty much. They’re great
Trick pedals is another level of machining and also an ode to the old and awesome King Speed with the revolutionary spring system
I owned the first year version of this pedal. I LOVED how fast they were. But I felt they lost all feel when doing doubles for slower music. I ultimately sold them for dw 5000s. Granted I wasn’t blasting at 220+ but the 5000 was and still is right for me
Wyatt good video and I purchased the trick black widow pedals and still configuring the pedal since june 2019. Any suggestions for quick response? I tried all the board heights, beater height n the spring tension. Thx man good luck.
I played DW3002 for about 6 or 7 years and finally made the switch after testing all the Direct Drives my favorite shop has to offer. I tried the Pro 1V, Demon Drive and Dyna Sync. Also Iron Cobras and Speed Cobras. The DynaSync felt the most natural to me as well as the iron cobras. Due to more adjustment possibilities I bought the Dyna Syncs. I had to upgrade the Shaft to an ACD Ultimate Shaft as the OE Shaft is absolute dogshit. Now I am very happy with them and try to learn heel toe ✌🏻 my Drummer bro used 1Vs on his kit. I will give them a shot as well as I am now the owner of a double bass kit and in need of a pedal that can be transformed into 2 singles 😅😄
EDIT: And yes, Direct Drives help to go a bit faster but it‘s not like magic that you are suddenly able to go from 160bpm to 250bpm. I had to do a lot of adjustments in the past year and now able to go 190-200bpm on good days.
Great review
Why did you go back to the iron cobra?
Congratulation for the 100k subscribers dude 👏 nice video nothing wrong to say about this video
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed and I appreciate the support! :D
This video Literally hit EVERY Question I had.
Thank You
As a heavy footed barbarian I can completely agree that direct drive pedals are a completely different animal. Felt like learning how to drum all over again
Damn..I was about to get the Axis Longboard A21 with microtune, but idk now!? I'm definitely about to hit the Trick site up! Great review!
just bought the dominator version and i cant wait for them to come! this is going to be sick man.
If the velcro under the pedal isn't holding secure it's probably because the carpet under the pedal is not loop pile. Velcro, as we all know, works by hook and loop. The velcro on the pedal is the hook half and it needs a loop to snag on. I figured this out when my 1st gen Axis pedals skidded around on carpet that was not loop pile. So I went to a carpet store and got a cheap remnant of loop pile carpet to use for my drum rug. The velcro grabs the loop pile so strongly that I almost need to pry it loose when I tear down. I do not need to add more velcro to the pedal, the amount of velcro the pedal came with is more than enough to hold securely if the pedal is placed on a loop pile carpet. I don't know why the drum industry doesn't just make a drum rug from the loop half material of velcro and be done with it.
I now have this pedal it's very easy to go fast extremely well built well worth the money. My trick is not the low mass footboard. I just saw the new black low mass pedal with some green parts it's the sickest pedal out now I badly want it
Congrats on 100,000 subs
Don't forget they have the dominators which are basically as good as these for $400 less. Also industrial Velcro from a hardware store will work much better.
There is another pedal manufacturer you should all look into called ACD. Direct drive, and every bit as good, plus they make upgrades for Trick, Axis, and better driveshafts for all pedals. they even make a variable leverage cam for Trick pedals that works like the Axis VDL adjustment.
DW 9000. I’ve used them for years. I recently purchased a PDP Concept Direct Drive long board double pedal for my secondary kit and I would suggest those. They only cost me about $240 new and have a similar design. Worth checking them out before taking the pricey plunge on Trick or Axis pedals. Also, the entire bottom plate of the pedals have a thin piece of rubber so they won’t move lol
I know a legit pro metal drummer who has been playing Trick Dominators for years and they've never failed him. I own a pair of Dominators, myself, and absolutely love them
Same here! What beaters do you have on them?
Dominators are a hidden gem. Absolutely amazing pedals.
i got my czarcie kopyto pedals last week and yes, a direct drive pedale transmittes force much better than every pedal i’ve ever tried. i also ordered these trick pro beaters but they didnt arrive yet. So i‘ve copied the set up from Thomas Crémier. BUT you have to adapt your technique to this sort of pedals.
Wyatt thank you for this video. I just bought the DW MDD pedals and I'm not happy with them. After seeing this video I did more research and man I'm stoke to get them. I just bought the Pro V-1 Bigfoot double bass Black widow edition. Anymore tips I might need to know?
My opinion yes the pedal does help with speed. Having said that I do think most of it has to do with the technique using the ankles & caff musles and building those muscles up. Just like hands the faster you go - arms - wrists - fingers. Kinda similar with feet.
I would hope that after all these years they got better. Danny from Oceano recommended me these back when they put their first album out but I never got them lol.
I have an older version of the Trick Dominators (which are the slightly cheaper version of this pedal) and I definitely have some criticisms. Now I don't know how many of these flaws are also present in other Trick pedals, but a few of them definitely are (I can see it in the video). They are great pedals, but they definitely require some getting used to and have some features that can be fairly annoying at times:
1. The hoop clamp is absolute ass. It's weak af and depending on your technique can be prone to come undone. Luckily mine have the strongest velcro imaginale on the bottom, so the pedal moving away from its position isn't really an issue for me.
2. The screws that hold the beaters in place are positioned in a way that makes it impossible to undo/tighten them with most drum keys. You have to use an L-key (like the one coming with the pedal) otherwise it doesn't really work.
3. The compression springs on these pedals feel kind of "spongy", which needs some getting used to. There's not really much of a middle ground between super tight or super loose spring tension with these and they require a lot of force to operate when the spring tension is maxed out.
4. Idk if it's just my pedal (bought it used, had it for almost 4 years now), but I noticed a loss in responsiveness in the slave pedal recently. I don't know what the issue is, but the left pedal just feels kind of sluggish now compared to the right one, even though they're at the same settings. Might be the pedal coming to the end of its lifespan after all.
Fantastic double base drum pedal. However, I found the footboards too heavy and ordered lightweight foodboards. What a difference much faster and smoother now! I also shortened the connecting shaft slightly!
I've owned mine for 8 years or so, & they are by far the best pedals on the market period. Its not so much they are "fast"... They are super balanced & extremely accurate, leaving the player to focus on drumming rather than trying to compensate between left & right pedal reaction, or slave pedal drag. I prefer 2 singles if there is room for a second bass drum, but the cross brace adds just a tiny bit resistance
Did you consider ACD Darwin’s? I got my eyes on those.
I’m very interested in those
I have speed cobras and absolutely hate how light they are and have even replaced the stock springs with Tama's heavier Dyna Sync springs. I have considered buying Bigfoot pedals for a while now. Since you have experienced both pedals, do you believe I can achieve a heavier feel with these pedals to cater to my technique and to give me better balance so that it is easier on my lower back?
Yes. You can adjust these to suit any technique. I use to have the speed cobras, and they are a toy compared to the pro 1v bigfoots. They are absolutely the best pedals in the world. Worth every penny, eventho its expensive af.
Okay thank you for the response
Hey Wyatt, I seen you were struggling a bit with the Velcro on those pedals. You should try the Extreme Outdoor Velcro, made for all weather, rough surfaces. Available online or at Home Depot. Its item # 91373. Its big hooks are so strong you probably won't need any weights to keep your kick in place. With these, your pedal alone will be the anchor. Good Luck, !
Ladelvideovault thanks for this I’ll be checking this out for sure!!!
Dude I have made the switch to Trick Pedals as well! Super happy and don’t see myself going back to chain pedals! 🤘🏻
what's up homie, awesome channel.. do you have a video on pedal settings?
I would say that the velcro works depending on what kind carpet you are using. Some carpets, ONE small piece of velcro would be enough. And on some other carpets it won't work at all :)
Just picked up a set of these! Waited 14 months for them to come in and just picked them up yesterday…. What are the settings you use? Been checking out different setups but would be cool to know how you have them set up
Seen your vid with djared, mad chops. You deserve a follow!
I have been using the Tama DynaSync direct drive pedal and really like it. I used to have the Trick pedal but could not get used to the feel of that compression spring.
Do you think the tama sync has a better feel than the trick? The issue I have is mid tempo double bass work. It doesn’t feel very natural to me.
Totally agree. Compression springs feel so unnatural. "Jack in the box" feel
My second comment 2 years later, love my Tricks man, have them split now, 2 BDs. I ran rudiments constantly with these things and the only issue was I snapped the spring tension bar inside the tower. Trick has upgraded this part and sent me 2 for free. Just recently started working on speed, spent most of the last 2 years on coordination, right now I struggle a little with 16ths say at 130 like the sections in LOG-Redneck, so I'm pushing the left more now, what's weird is I can run triplets easier than the 16ths? You are right about the case I mean, come on Trick, also I would like to see some type of measurable indicator on the spring adjusters. Heel/toe though I crank with these things (your video dude), almost got a buzz roll out at the end of the boards with constant pressure. I'm an old F&%$ though and need a new left knee, so I get those shots, not cortisone the other ones.
Ive had these since 2012ish. Still brand new with everyday use. The only snag was when i was on a gig and some random dude went to the kit and started using the bass drum when beater screws were loose (i was disassembling them) and the screw tap failed. I just bought the replacement cam that has the screw tap.
And congrats on hitting the 100k! 🖤
I bought the Speed Cobra 910 in 2017. I've been looking at moving to direct drive. Through out this video I was convinced this was the pedal for me. Then you talked about how much they move. Nope. Why the hell would they not include spurs like the 910? The search continues...
ACD makes a direct drive conversion
Yeah don’t need to hate on the pedal or drummers that use them. They are different and as Wyatt says, they help!
Personally, I would prefer sticking to a chain pedal simply for the challenge of figuring out how to get faster but at the same time keeping the natural feel that I’m used to.
Well... I actually use a strap pedal at the moment. The TAMA Iron Cobra flexi glides and good be honest.. they have a nice feel and rebound to them.
At the end of the day I think is comes down to personal preference and what you want to get out of your playing. Don’t hate... experiment and practice! :)
I have a Gibraltar direct drive double kick pedal that I bought used, and I'll say that they're fuckin' killer for pre owned pedals man.
Hey wyatt im a huge fan and i notice you wear the Vratim drumming shoes what advantages do you see while drumming in them vs wearing like some light weight vans
I will do a video on this I think in the future. :)
So outta curiosity, can you show your settings? I’ve had them for a couple years now and just curious to see other drummers settings, Cheers 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
congrats on 100k my dude!