I worked in the round timber trade & drove Matadors, both 4 & 6 wheel, in those times. They're simple, well built, robust & a bugger to drive, no power steering or driver comforts in those days. I careered around the roads of western England & Wales at 17 on a provisional licence, they were classed as tractors in those days & thus I could drive them legally. I enjoyed it enormously, they were slow, noisy, freezing cold in winter, roasting in summer but reliable & dependable, they did the job. I once loaded an elm on to a Mandator timber carriage, this section of the butt contained 510-525 cubic feet of timber, weighing around 20 tons. The total measure was 855 cubic feet, not one limb in the measure just the bole of the tree. That part of the tree was consigned to Charles Ransford & Son of Bishops Castle in Shropshire destined to become coffin boards. I put the winch rope up high up in the tree & got the anchors dug in to hold it, though not to pull, when I fell it, (there was a house nearby). When the tree fell it dragged the Matador back through the ground for about 10-12', anchors & all. I wish those times could come again, happy, young & carefree as I was. Mind you, nostalgia is not what it used to be.
Yup. That's what trucks were about then; crash boxes, no power steering. Heating - ? Take the side panel off the engine cowling and get on with it - ! 😁
When i was 16 i was driving a matador with a dump truck body in a quarry with really rough road i left at 18 to go to plant hire firm i left with 2 bent thumbs and years later tinnitis no ear muffs then
The old crane is an AEC Millitant. There wont be much left of it pretty soon. It didnt drive properly when it last ran about 15 years ago. There is so much weight on the front wheels that you cant turn the steering wheel if the jib is facing forwards, and with the jib facing the rear, the front wheels just skim the ground so the thing just goes in straight lines..
Too many bodies around if you're going to shagged wire ropes like the one you did the close up of. Bit of air in the flats and some ground work with a shovel may have helped also but it looked fun anyway. Thanks for sharing.
Well If i saw a bren carrier that was left nowhere for more than two years wothout care..I would take it home. Dismantle the search lights. People pay shitload of money for this kind of stuff. Except the bren. I would keep the bren
+John Smith Nothing gets scrapped here. It just gets left to rot into the ground. The Matador is still used around the place for shunting traction engines and stuff around.
@@mattywho8485 Because the cable they were using was in terrible shape to begin with and reducing attching points of wincheds to frame that are obviously as rusty and crusty as they were would be any sensible person's consideration. Just because you can does not mean you should take your ancient equipment to it's max limits. Thirty feet of cable flying about after snapping under load is nothing to sneeze at. I saw the cab of a deuce and a half cut cleanly off at the top of the firewall from one of those. Had there been someone sitting in that cab at the time, they'd have buried him in two pieces.
Im sure there's a Ford truck guy who will tell you they pulled something twice as heavy and in half the time. Hell, they will probably say they did it their Mustang.
Some of the tyres wouldnt take air but the brakes were seized as well but we got it free in the end. Someone will take this on as a restoration one day.
when the trust was made the was piles of un running stuff the is almost always something in the workshop it quite possibly will be worked on at some point but the aint enough people or workshops to get every thing going but yeah some stuff is just dumped outside
Then it will just be left outside to rot again. When it did run it was impossible to steer. With the jib pointing forwards there was so much weight over the front wheels that it was near impossible to turn the wheel. With the jib pointing towards the rear there was not enough weight on the front wheels and the whole thing would try to carry on in a straight line and any bump in the ground would have the front end floating in the air. This is the story I was told anyway.
+HolzMichel yeah. many english trucks are fucking ugly. CMP trucks share the same lack of good taste in looking. besides that , they are classic and relliable trucks as far as i know
I worked in the round timber trade & drove Matadors, both 4 & 6 wheel, in those times. They're simple, well built, robust & a bugger to drive, no power steering or driver comforts in those days. I careered around the roads of western England & Wales at 17 on a provisional licence, they were classed as tractors in those days & thus I could drive them legally. I enjoyed it enormously, they were slow, noisy, freezing cold in winter, roasting in summer but reliable & dependable, they did the job. I once loaded an elm on to a Mandator timber carriage, this section of the butt contained 510-525 cubic feet of timber, weighing around 20 tons. The total measure was 855 cubic feet, not one limb in the measure just the bole of the tree. That part of the tree was consigned to Charles Ransford & Son of Bishops Castle in Shropshire destined to become coffin boards. I put the winch rope up high up in the tree & got the anchors dug in to hold it, though not to pull, when I fell it, (there was a house nearby). When the tree fell it dragged the Matador back through the ground for about 10-12', anchors & all. I wish those times could come again, happy, young & carefree as I was. Mind you, nostalgia is not what it used to be.
Yup. That's what trucks were about then; crash boxes, no power steering. Heating - ? Take the side panel off the engine cowling and get on with it - ! 😁
Keith did you ever come across a well known timber faller from much wenlock called Peter Corfield?
Man that winch runs at a nice pace.
When i was 16 i was driving a matador with a dump truck body in a quarry with really rough road i left at 18 to go to plant hire firm i left with 2 bent thumbs and years later tinnitis no ear muffs then
I smiled.... Alot, when the Scammel came in 😍
Looks like a bit of fun. Nothing better than a gang of blokes mucking about with lots of machinery. Nice video
It doesn’t want to go! You need a big heavy Antar/Foden recovery truck for rusty jobs like this… it done it in the end, fair play.
Incredible pulling power on that Matador!
Belting vid mate,thumbs up.
I can see what a lovely little narrow gauge tracks You have there.
Thanks. Here are some trains on it ruclips.net/video/KdbHF3QqPmQ/видео.html
Love it, brilliant stuff. Impressive machines.
... well done 😐 ... grets from northern-germany
AEC Matador is my biggessssssst love !!!!!!💙💙💛💛🧡
that looks like a fun afternoon with friends and cool military vehicles
The old crane is an AEC Millitant. There wont be much left of it pretty soon. It didnt drive properly when it last ran about 15 years ago. There is so much weight on the front wheels that you cant turn the steering wheel if the jib is facing forwards, and with the jib facing the rear, the front wheels just skim the ground so the thing just goes in straight lines..
Is the Militant still about? Is she for sale?
Gonna need to learn the art of snatch block use and anchorage sharing,
Definitely.
Would have made things a lot easier and safer.
1:30 look how frayed their shitty rope is!!
Good lord almighty. Beautiful machinery.
perhhhhhhh.......amazing truck
Bit of welding and it will be as good as new! The one that pulled it out should be OK for restoration as well.
Too many bodies around if you're going to shagged wire ropes like the one you did the close up of. Bit of air in the flats and some ground work with a shovel may have helped also but it looked fun anyway. Thanks for sharing.
Possibly even putting the transmission into Neutral ...
Absolutely clueless about the danger they are putting themselves in.
Should have used the scamelles 5 to 1 optional winch maneuver with the ground anchors it would have moved this in minutes
Sod it! Put the shed somwhere else! :-)
..so we took off all the 'andles, and the fings wot 'eld the candles, but it did no good. Well. I never thought it would.
loved your video thanks
little bit of wax and tire shine and that old crane would look mint!
is it going to be restored? horrible to drive with the crane on but not many left around
It will be restored one day but other toys will take priority.
fantastic,,,,
Not much beats a 10 ton Matador Gun Tractor , used them in the 60s
Is it to be re born or scrapped?
Well If i saw a bren carrier that was left nowhere for more than two years wothout care..I would take it home. Dismantle the search lights. People pay shitload of money for this kind of stuff. Except the bren. I would keep the bren
Renato Ciler Find my video called Engine graveyard. Lots of history rusting away here.
Great bit of winching and messing about! Has the old AEC with it's Norwich numberplate been scrapped now and do you still have the Matador?
+John Smith Nothing gets scrapped here. It just gets left to rot into the ground. The Matador is still used around the place for shunting traction engines and stuff around.
Don’t suppose the militant is for sale? I could do with loads of parts off that lol
The owners would need the entire vehicle removed.
did you buy the machine from coppards
It's possible it came from them sometime in the 1960s.
@@thra5herxb12s no sorry I meant the excavator with the sign writing on, I live near Tunbridge Wells so recognised the coppards logo
Sorry just read it's a Millitant, was it scrapped or saved. ?
not heavy enough to use that Scammell Pioneer at 1:30..or did you just use her to break it loose?
Just used the winding drum on the Scammell to free it up. All the old trucks here are used for traction Engine recovery.
da mußt du schneller ziehen wenn der Kran anspringen soll. ☺☺☺
You have to pull faster if the crane should start. ☺☺☺
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Should have doubled your winchline with a snatch block!
WHY? It obviously has enough pulling power already, as it was picking the front wheels of the winch vehicle into the air!
@@mattywho8485 Because the cable they were using was in terrible shape to begin with and reducing attching points of wincheds to frame that are obviously as rusty and crusty as they were would be any sensible person's consideration. Just because you can does not mean you should take your ancient equipment to it's max limits. Thirty feet of cable flying about after snapping under load is nothing to sneeze at. I saw the cab of a deuce and a half cut cleanly off at the top of the firewall from one of those. Had there been someone sitting in that cab at the time, they'd have buried him in two pieces.
well thatsa good cadle u hv there daft buggers
Did the AEC ever get fixed?
It's still there waiting for a volunteer to take it on as a project.
You need a good eye splice on that thing .
Im sure there's a Ford truck guy who will tell you they pulled something twice as heavy and in half the time. Hell, they will probably say they did it their Mustang.
Guardrail they are dumplings then
Does the Matador have enough fuel in it to pull that piece of shit all the way to the scrap yard?
Better get more weight on that winch truck
Another fine piece of British Engineering going to the dump!?
Painful to see such a great truck being left neglected enough to get into that condition. Why not simply inflate tyres and make job so much easier?
Some of the tyres wouldnt take air but the brakes were seized as well but we got it free in the end. Someone will take this on as a restoration one day.
Mathador fail??
Damaged rope. Not safe
Hello ! Gogmoning
Well, if you restore that old AEC i'll eat my boxers. Is it a Marshall, or x 6 Matador.?
Would have been quicker with a cutting torch
how can anybody let an expensive piece of equipment go to waste like this...
+thra5herxb12s any videos of these or are they long gone?
when the trust was made the was piles of un running stuff the is almost always something in the workshop it quite possibly will be worked on at some point but the aint enough people or workshops to get every thing going but yeah some stuff is just dumped outside
Been easier to cut it up where it stood
The powers that be think they will be able to repair this old wreck.
thra5herxb12s Then What
Then it will just be left outside to rot again. When it did run it was impossible to steer. With the jib pointing forwards there was so much weight over the front wheels that it was near impossible to turn the wheel. With the jib pointing towards the rear there was not enough weight on the front wheels and the whole thing would try to carry on in a straight line and any bump in the ground would have the front end floating in the air. This is the story I was told anyway.
I'm afraid I dont know about its history but that seems like the sort thing it would have been built for.
@@thra5herxb12s Take the crane off and use it for something else.
them are some ugly fookin trucks...
+HolzMichel yeah. many english trucks are fucking ugly. CMP trucks share the same lack of good taste in looking. besides that , they are classic and relliable trucks as far as i know