Well thank you, Thomas, that was the greatest thing I've seen in the last few years of seeing You tube vids. For sure. A real, real pleasure. Entertainment and education both together. Oh... just see in other comments he is now gone. Well he'll be getting his reward now and very well deserved. What a beautiful man, what a wealth of knowledge. I just downloaded his book 'after schlossberg'. I wish to god he'd written another book. something about himself and his life... or something about music... or anything... And music... has he left any recordings? I just searched RUclips. I see there's a handful. I'll go get them. :)
In 1957 Roger Voisin and armondo ghitalla recorded "music for trumpet and orchestra" and started a revival of baroque trumpet. voisin had played trumpet with the BSO from age 16 where he had learned from mager.
49:04 If Solti was getting on you for not playing loud enough you should have recommended that the next time they do one of those concerts he should call up Charlie Schlueter--the only man I have ever heard make Herseth sound small.
Herseth had a very long career, and many players are mostly familiar with his later recordings and never heard him live in his prime, in the 1950s and early 1960s. In Orchestra Hall in those years he could pin you to the back of your chair. I was a very powerful player in those days. But in a lesson, Herseth had me play the end of Sibelius 2, and he played the second part. I could hardly hear myself!
Exactly having studied with Schluter he even admitted that Bud had a more natural presence in sound quality. Many don't know that charlie was asked to leave the orchestra for the unacceptable sounds. Making a comment saying Charlie makes bud sounds small just lets me know your ears aren't in the right place. Even his last Mahler 5 with Barenboim was spectacular for an 81-year-old. name someone else who can do that. You won't. These armchair principal trumpet players on youtube amaze me with tomfoolery comments.
The OP's comment about Schlueter is actually quite astute and it is shameful for you to chastise him for what is a rather sensible opinion. I have heard both Schlueter and Herseth in concert and on recording and, if we are talking about breadth and broadness of sound, Schlueter had no peers. Herseth was better technically, had better intonation, consistency and longevity but he didn't have the sound of a Schlueter. Myths have grown up about Herseth being the loudest player of all time but that is just nonsense. A lot of that is due to Decca artificially enhancing the brass presence in the CSO recordings under Solti. For a few years he wasn't even the loudest player in his section (Vosburgh).
@@SickPuppyLighteningRod Listen to Barenboim 00 Carnegie hall and you wouldn't be making statements like that. A live unedited video shows what Herseth could do. A better example is the gramophone recordings of Mahler with Boulez.Putting Schlueter and Herseth in the same class proves you haven't done your homework. The only person who comes close to the quality and style of bud is Phil Smith and he had the most sparkle of any trumpet player. Theres a big difference between a forced loud and a natural presence and you can't deny that bud didn't have a natural resonance.
What Sir George said to Thomas is what I've been saying with every recording I've ever heard from the LA Phil........no balls!! But I love the CSO because when their brass needs to sound like BRASS........wow!!! Oh, and the London Symphony Orchestra!!
Fascinating…one of the best clinics I’ve heard!
I'm so glad to learn about this video! My father was Nathan Prager and my mom's cousin was Harry Glantz! Thanks for a great lecture!
WOW! Prager was a legend, and Glantz even more so!
woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
I guess WOW is the only I can say !
What an incredible hour of awesome information . Unfortunately just found out that Mr Stevens has passed . RIP And God Bless
Well thank you, Thomas, that was the greatest thing I've seen in the last few years of seeing You tube vids. For sure. A real, real pleasure. Entertainment and education both together.
Oh... just see in other comments he is now gone. Well he'll be getting his reward now and very well deserved. What a beautiful man, what a wealth of knowledge.
I just downloaded his book 'after schlossberg'. I wish to god he'd written another book. something about himself and his life... or something about music... or anything...
And music... has he left any recordings? I just searched RUclips. I see there's a handful. I'll go get them. :)
This is just a goldmine -- as was Thomas Stevens. Thanks so much for posting. RIP, Thomas.
Tom and I went to the Dallas Symphony the same year - 1964. It was a real learning experience sitting next to him - a wonderful player.
RIP Mr. Stevens. Thank you for all the great teaching and playing.
This is pure gold!
This is FANTASTIC! I work on this material everyday. Always learning. Thank you, maestro!
Much appreciated. Thank you for sharing. Im inspired by this great info and will never forget.
That was incredibly interesting and fun! Thank you for posting. RIP Thomas.
You MUST discover this wonderful knowlegeable musician-trumpeter. Thank you for so much information.
Thank you so much! Long life Mr.Stevens!!!
Wow . An absolutely amazing lecture. !!
This is such a helpful and informative video. Thanks for posting!
Just Outstanding. I learned so much here.
This is amazing
Fascinating presentation! Sorry to hear about his passing.
Thank you for posting this. Incredible information that's not easy to find!
Wonderful! Thanks a lot!
Thank you! I have never used the book because it didn't make any sense before hearing this talk.
My trumpet teacher took lessons from Schlossberg, driving to New York City every other week.
Name?????!
Max taught Frank, Frank taught Pat Throneburg, and Pat taught me. I actually still have a few of Max's handwritten notes on said subject.
In 1957 Roger Voisin and armondo ghitalla recorded "music for trumpet and orchestra" and started a revival of baroque trumpet. voisin had played trumpet with the BSO from age 16 where he had learned from mager.
This is Gold
I remember Tom Stevens when he was with West Point band.
Really nice !!!
Fascinating talk
What is this parisian solfege from the 1910's, mentioned at 24:30? Where can I read about it, what is it called?
I'm heading to the practice room
I have a copy of that Clarke letter
My first teachers teacher was Prager.
Now I know why I couldn’t understand that book!
What ever happened to Bob Lang. ??
49:04 If Solti was getting on you for not playing loud enough you should have recommended that the next time they do one of those concerts he should call up Charlie Schlueter--the only man I have ever heard make Herseth sound small.
Herseth had a very long career, and many players are mostly familiar with his later recordings and never heard him live in his prime, in the 1950s and early 1960s. In Orchestra Hall in those years he could pin you to the back of your chair. I was a very powerful player in those days. But in a lesson, Herseth had me play the end of Sibelius 2, and he played the second part. I could hardly hear myself!
Mr Herseth studied with the Biggest trumpet player ever George Mager.
Exactly having studied with Schluter he even admitted that Bud had a more natural presence in sound quality. Many don't know that charlie was asked to leave the orchestra for the unacceptable sounds. Making a comment saying Charlie makes bud sounds small just lets me know your ears aren't in the right place. Even his last Mahler 5 with Barenboim was spectacular for an 81-year-old. name someone else who can do that. You won't. These armchair principal trumpet players on youtube amaze me with tomfoolery comments.
The OP's comment about Schlueter is actually quite astute and it is shameful for you to chastise him for what is a rather sensible opinion. I have heard both Schlueter and Herseth in concert and on recording and, if we are talking about breadth and broadness of sound, Schlueter had no peers. Herseth was better technically, had better intonation, consistency and longevity but he didn't have the sound of a Schlueter. Myths have grown up about Herseth being the loudest player of all time but that is just nonsense. A lot of that is due to Decca artificially enhancing the brass presence in the CSO recordings under Solti. For a few years he wasn't even the loudest player in his section (Vosburgh).
@@SickPuppyLighteningRod Listen to Barenboim 00 Carnegie hall and you wouldn't be making statements like that. A live unedited video shows what Herseth could do. A better example is the gramophone recordings of Mahler with Boulez.Putting Schlueter and Herseth in the same class proves you haven't done your homework. The only person who comes close to the quality and style of bud is Phil Smith and he had the most sparkle of any trumpet player. Theres a big difference between a forced loud and a natural presence and you can't deny that bud didn't have a natural resonance.
Zoinks! Like, where's Scooby?!
Finally...after 45 minutes of telling stories he took his trumpet...
the gospel
Came here to watch racist videos of Aaron Schlossberg. I went in the wrong room.
What Sir George said to Thomas is what I've been saying with every recording I've ever heard from the LA Phil........no balls!! But I love the CSO because when their brass needs to sound like BRASS........wow!!! Oh, and the London Symphony Orchestra!!
Yes, the LSO - another Solti ensemble?