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Sent our info...hubby was eagle scout! Walked entire Appalachian trail few decades ago! Bama is where I was born! Whoop whoop! We're ready!! Hubby been rv'r long time ...can help teach, and plant garden and fix up place!! We could drive over to campground and meet yall this week! Lynn
This site looks so lovely! We will look forward to stopping in when we retire in three or so years. Hope you plan to be more inclusive than the Boy Scouts traditionally have been, though. 🧐
Congratulations. Can't help now as I have my work for another year .... but it sounds like it will be a safe clean and pretty place to camp. Will definitely want to go there on a trip. We're good campers, quiet and clean.
I would love to know more. This looks very exciting.
This is awesome! You all will bring the best energy to a campground. I say have some yoga classes and other things that bring community together.
Congratulations! My husband and I bought an existing, but run down RV park in 1984. We owned it until our retirement in 2017. In all those years, we stayed a campground with the woodsy feel and family atmosphere. We did make constant improvements and offered all of the amenities you would expect but kept the more traditional atmosphere. It was an amazing 34 years and we met awesome people, many of whom have become our best friends. I want to wish you as great an experience as we had. Good luck in this endeavor.
Thank you Maureen💚 You must be a wealth of info. We’d love to talk with you.
@@RVOddCouple iIf you have any questions for us we’d be glad to help.
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Too bad you could not hook up with the rich man that owns the camper world company. That would be a win-win situation
SCORE has free business mentorship
We just Google Earthed the campground, it looks beautiful.
Just keep in mind ..... When God chose Moses, Moses told God "I can't do this". And God replied "Yes you can!".
Andy & Kim
I hope more ppl like you both do the same thing....for the right reasons. For the love of nature and fellow campers, this world becomes a better place ♥
There was an RV park in Why, AZ, where people bought their own RV spot and could be there whenever they wanted, or could leave it and rent it out. There is an RV park north of Pierre, SD, which has rental spots for RVs, and then they plotted out a section where they sold the spots for either RV use or for building a small house, few restrictions. With that much land, you could develop for a long time into it with various programs. Congratulations! I love the idea! I almost bought a small mobile home park years ago with plans to convert to an RV park. Really hope it works out for you. The land looks beautiful!!
We are so excited Ginger💚
Our favorite campground is a former mobile home park. Lots/sites are huge, landscaped with many different perennials, trees, “streets” between sections are paved, the whole campground is on flat land, rural area, river on the west end of property for kayaks and tubing, huge swimming pool and pavilion. There are 130+ sites. On various weekends they have local bands play at the pavilion for a few hours. Owner was a former road manager for a few big name country and rock bands, and pre-COVID he held concerts on site for bands like Charlie Daniel’s Band (RIP🙏🏼) and .38Special. It’s now gated, so it feels extremely safe. A former mobile home park is perfect for a campground because the plumbing and electricity are already there. If you are every in a position to buy one, I think it’s a great opportunity 😊
@@rachaeldavis3825 Awesome! Would you mind sharing the name and location? I might want to stay there sometime. Thanks!
@@ginger5057 It’s “Trout Run Camping Resort”, located in Wellsville, NY. It’s in the Souther Tier/Western NYS, just minutes north of the Pennsylvania line. If you do stay, I would recommend staying in sites 30 - 60’ish. The new section hasn’t had the streets paved as of last weekend and if it’s dry it can get dusty over there. I expect it will be paved soon. The new bathroom and shower facilities are beautiful. I walked over and checked them out. They’ve added a spacious dog park as well. I forgot to add that there is also a driving range (golf) and a few trails for bikes or golf carts. I’ve never seen ATV’s there, but not sure if they are prohibited. I hope so because I really don’t want to drag ours over there for our son because hearing him ride at home is annoying enough, lol. At night you could hear a pin drop, even with RV a/c’s running in the background. It’s in a valley that is a mile or so wide. If you’re on Instagram, check my page because I believe I’ve got pics of the campground on there. Pool is heated and is open April - October. April is a bit cold for me. They’ve also added fully furnished tiny house cabins. Full kitchens and baths and some with lofts. 30 & 50 amp service will full hookups. Small camp store with ice cream, pizza, wings, burgers, etc., and they will deliver to your site. Good sized laundromat as well. They also offer seasonal sites when available, but there is a waiting list because it is such a nice place. Hope this helps.
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@@rachaeldavis3825 Thank you! It sounds wonderful! I will have to check it out when I go visit my friends in PA and sister in the Eastern Panhandle of WV. Probably next spring or summer. Sounds like it would be a good idea! A part of me wishes I had bought that Mobile Home park years ago. I keep thinking about it....lol
I absolutely love the idea of creating a community with good ole fashion manners and common courtesy. We have been on the road for a year. We love what we are doing, the places we are seeing. I love the attitude of gratitude you express. I will keep tuned in to your adventure and hopefully see your dream come together in person one day.
Oh my word, that is near Lake Guntersville! My husband’s parents retired to Guntersville Alabama 30 years ago. It’s gorgeous up there!! The lake is unbelievable as well. Northern Alabama is gorgeous!
I will absolutely be praying for y’all. 🙏
Absolutely love that you are willing to profess your love for God publically. Everything good comes from God. May you be blessed !
I love that too about them. Sweet family!
I so agree 💞
Amen. Praise God 🙏🏼
Neighborhoods used to be community oriented as well. We really need to get back in touch with our neighbors. Keep up the great work.
Please don’t get too many “hands on” investors. Too many bosses will doom any project. Best wish and God speed!
So true. Communes never work out
Dreams of Utopia.
I suggest looking at the updated model called cohousing
And, potential family members as investors. Disastrous!
Too many cooks spoil the broth
I totally agree
You guys are TRUE Americans !
I agree with everything you said about the Boyscouts, and values. Starting anew... Thanx and goodluck!!!
“Once you choose hope, anything’s possible.” Christopher Reeve. I appreciate you guys taking the lead on this. I hope that someday I can lend a hand. We are on the west coast and very supportive of you guys.
spot on Randy! I feel the same way. i would at least like to tent camp at the the Odd Couple Campground. I call my 2008 Honda Fit a MICRO camper and it has a name - strayROVER.
Congratulations! It looks like many people want to help you work and you are starting off well organized! Thank God for this incredible blessing!
Took a look. It looks like most decisions made at a County level. County seat is Fort Payne. Check flooding very carefully. Where two bodies of water, go into one. Can be a problem. I see many full-timers being interested, as a fall back place. In case being on the road became impossible. Check availability of Grocery shopping nearby. Near mountains, so maybe snow in the Winter. The main thing, no weather events so severe to require evacuation of the area. At least not very often. If you already thought of all this, then God bless you, and lead you.
you bring up good, pertinent points. tornado alley? flood plain? no thanks.
I live in oregon where weather events are very very few and far between. we have no state tax , including for RVs which saves anybody here a bundle...
TN here. Sales tax is a little high. But property tax is not bad. And no state income tax. Alabama is quite high tax, for the south.
@@domestikgoddez9823 I live close to this part of Alabama. It is a lovely and amazing area!! I have lived in AL & GA all my life and really Tornadoes usually hit a small area. Your individual chance of getting hit is very small. Yes, you need a plan for shelter but really, your thinking is like avoiding driving so you won't wreck. I think you would find Alabama is nothing like the stereotypes. I hope to visit Oregon one day and I would say don't be afraid to visit down here. It's a beautiful place. Just don't come in June-August. Too hot if you aren't used to it. Lol
Also ask around about tornado watches/warnings during the spring especially. They have a lot of tornados in that area. RVers worst nightmare.
We do get tornadoes here but snow? Not so much
Sounds completely awesome! Exactly what nomads need. To b a newbie and hearing someone speak ‘calm and possible solutions’ to what’s occurring now, is encouraging.
Had to stay in a hotel why? Seriously, even without a campsite, you can get water. You can run your generator. And you can dump at a park as needed, even if you're not staying there. Sometimes they charge a small fee. We have 17 acres in NC with a 3 acre lake. We'd like to make it a campground someday. We boondock 99% of the time. Who wants to be piled on top of a bunch of other people in a campground anyway? Re Thousand Trails, yeah, just like a time-share. They sell more than they have. You can always find a good spot if you plan a year ahead. Who does that?
Sadly more and more areas have been over whelmed with the bad campers that have in turn made local laws or at least put up no parking signs. Local Walmart used to be welcome to campers, but last travel trailer I saw parked was perfect example of why we are getting turned away. Literally left full bags of trash in parking lot when they left and were about as bad while parked.
@@donaldbates9994 It's disgusting what these "new campers" are doing at places like Walmart and the like! Unfortunately though, so many Americans have absolutely zero shame or respect for others nowdays.
Make sure you can afford the liability insurance if you intended to operate a pool for visitors to use. Check in with an attorney on liability issues in general ..... but especially the pool.
Hey guys, we are in the middle of doing exactly what you are stating, except... we have found that buying raw land is the most affordable way to get er done for the two of us. Obviously the state you choose to buy in will determine the amount of work to accomplish your goals of establishing a land base to call home, so this may be an alternative to spending the big dollars in the campgrounds. We are developing our land ourselves and doing all the work which is why this is our best option, but the best part of our state (Texas), the county we are moving too has little to no restrictions on rv's moving onto the land while developing. FYI, we bought 10 acres already split into two tax lots for a touch over 60k, very reasonably priced for sure and a future investment. Great video like always and we wish you guys the Best of Luck in your journey.Congrats! Stay Safe. Peace.
Hi, could you share the area that you bought? We are Texans and are RVers and will be looking for land in a year so scoping out areas now.
@@LetsLiveUpstream Happy to share... We chose to stay in the Northern end of the state leaning East to keep the trees and ground scape Green, since we are from the Oregon cascades. Each town has it's demand price and the less desirable areas are going to give you the lowest per acre price. We are still learning the geographical layout and where the landmarks are which creates higher demand. If you can find under 8k per acre, you are doing well if saving money is part of your criteria. We stumbled onto our piece and happen to hit it when no one really knew about it. We found a bargain that had a hoarder on it and passed on and we paid under 6500 acre with lots of land clearing and hopefully getting our volunteer fire department out to train rookies burning an old building down we want eliminated. The one thing I can say for sure is, the prices are moving up rather quick and what we are finding is that if interested in a plot, move quick. We have seen two plots we looked at in the last week go contingent, which says that the country will be a good investment in the near future. Happy RVing and GOD BLESS TEXAS ")
I'll never buy land, or a house, again. I can hold the deed to the structure and property, and if i don't may my "property taxes", it can be taken away..so when was it mine, again?
Hello?
@@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 We completely understand what your position is about owning something that can be taken away. We moved out of Oregon because one of the last executive orders the leftist governor inacted said that for any reason due to emergencies or state necessities, your land could be taken away with no compensation or recourse. Oregon is so far gone, it gave us all the impression of living in a communistic country which is why we now reside in Texas.
@@homesteadingusa you are winners!
You guys can do this! We need more places owned by actual RV'ers!
Praying for a safe journey for you all and that the Lord gives you favor and wisdom as you step out to fulfill the vision the Lord has given you. I am so EXCITED to see and hear what the Lord will do :)
for those with the ears to hear it , and the eyes to see it. if one can stand on those testaments, clarity and joy are an almost guarantee.
I'm am Eagle scout and skipper of a sea scout ship.
I want you to know, scouting is NOT dieing. Scouting is growing, in opportunity and values. We're family oriented and that's how we will grow.
I love what you're doing.
Bought a old rundown off road campground years ago. Locals said we could never make it work. We didn’t listen and when we fixed it we took word “park” seriously. It became successful for us as well as the owners who have it 30 years later. Good luck and have fun
John said the magic word - LEVERAGE!! That is the key to making million$ in real estate. For the campground, whatever money you think you need . . . TRIPLE IT!!!!! Keep in mind that, should you decide to get a loan from a bank or SBA, do NOT sell them on a shoe-string budget because they will not finance a failure. Double the amount you think you need to open and run the place for the first year and you will get the loan. Whatever of the loan you don't use for operations, you can use to pay back the loan.
Some of the best business advice I heard lately.
I’m not currently an RV’er, but you never know what the future holds.
Absolutely right. Always ask for more !!!
Also, when you get there look CAREFULLY at the building for signs of flooding. Wood/Sheetrock damage at a line consistent with a flood level. Look at their books if you can. It may have failed for lack of business. But they also probably didn’t have any advertising. Interesting!
I see from your interview last night that you are currently in your due diligence phase. Here’s something that I would want to understand. That property was recently listed again, but it has been for sale since 2011 with a large price drop. I’m hoping it all works out the best for you.
As I watched this I couldn't help think "behind every great man is a powerful woman!" God bless you and guide you. I travel to GA every other year to visit family and would love to lend a hand with your adventure whenever I am in the area. Would love to buy a space but not doable right now.
I have nothing in common with you guys- I’m not married, am not an outdoor woman, agnostic,no kids, etc. Yet I can’t stop watching you guys. I realized- it’s because you both have beautiful & kind spirits. I wish you so much luck on the next step in your journey. I admire you both for taking such leaps to live your dreams.
I do have to mention tho 😬 I don’t think masculinity is dying- but it is changing. Our society has lived in extremes for so many decades- rich is becoming richer, poor is becoming poor, etc- and I hope hope HOPE that society is shifting into a more moderate stance, where we all can acknowledge each other’s differences with civility and respectfulness.
Or maybe I’m just hoping for too much 😆
Sorry this is so long!!
Masculinity is dying. Look at the efforts being put forward to emphasize gender neutrality. Men are men for a reason. And the same applies to women. Each are unique for specific reasons. The Creator's perfect plan for humankind is dependent on us recognizing and embracing the differences between the two and not blurring those lines.
@@gainingmomentum5392 Yes, our roles are established by our Lord in his love letter to us, the Bible.
I hope too but... it’s not. If anything we have become more polarized. Please keep your religion to yourself.
@@authortommcauliffe3692 : If you’re an American the First Amendment gives us the Freedom of Religion. I’m going to use my right to always Praise my Lord and Savior. Have a super day!
@@hikerhobby1204 please read the Constitution
Why don't you make up a business plan that includes the amount of camp sites, take the price of the purchase and improvements divided by the camp sites. Coming up with an equal price per campsite, and incorporate selling shares for ownership. The owners can either live at their campsite or leave it for rental while they travel and collect a dividend from the profits after property tax and repair & maintenance.
Great idea. I would buy a campsite!!!!! I would live their. I see an area where folks will live permanently and an area for rentals.
I think it would be more of a community that way.
I’m in to buy my own lot there
Great idea!
Excellent idea 😀
Also, Ameri-cana resort in Rockledge, FL. Owners work together for nice community of park models and RVs. Pool, activity room, etc. Connect with folks already doing these things!!
for anyone looking for land, I asked Realtor to add flood zones to their map overlays, a couple years ago, and they did (zillow did not). So it really helps when you're looking at a property. Some of the property might be in a flood zone, but the structures, may not, so that's important to know. You can also see if the roads in and out are in flood zones.
Played with Google Earth; the listing and the overview look good. There are a LOT of long barns showing on three sides of the property... if they're hog barns, they'll have an odor. If they're chickens, they'll have flies. Pay attention when you walk the property to smells and buzzes. The existing buildings are very appealing- looks like a residence or two would be brought up to speed quickly. Good that there are utilities available already. Watch for potential pool expense if there are leaks, of course. Lots of work, but wow what a fun project. Some hiking paths along the waterways would be really nice! I think you're onto something considering the increased RV-ing as you mentioned. If the Father has this for you, it'll happen! Blessings.
It's wonderful how you are doing something great for the RVing community. I love how excited you are for this new adventure.
When I was first considering buying an RV, I went into a big showroom and asked how do I figure out which type would be best for me. He just gave me a dumb look and said I was just going to have to figure that out myself then come back and he could help. I wish he had been more helpful but that's when I found your RUclips channel.
He helped you more than you realize.
I bought some land out in West Texas. I'm going to slowly make it livable, in regards to septic, solar, and eventually water. I've seen people say they paid anywhere between $3500 up to $40k for putting in a well. Hopefully it's more on the low end of the scale. I'm not looking at making it into an RV camp for rental, but it could support several pads. Mostly, it's something I can leave to my daughter and grandkids someday.
Wells can cost over $100k now especially if the water table is hundreds of feet down.
I love this idea. I am an older person looking for a Christian community, smaller plot of land to live on in an rv as i age. This is definitely something for me to ponder.
The same for me, Dot.
There are so many cute tiny homes or manufactured homes now a days. Once you are 65+ you don’t need much to be happy. There is a reason even youngsters are seeing the advantage of minimalism. 🤑
Well it’s the full time residents RV parks are the ones we avoid. They tend to turn into trailer parks vice RV parks. Big difference.
I was going to do this when I first started. Some things I ran into, expense of electrical hookups, septic issues and zoning laws. I was going to do it on the cheap and run my own wiring and water and septic lines. I came to my senses after the first renter was dry camping and had unreasonable demands. If I did my own wiring and someone got electrocuted through some unforseen accident not only would it be on my conscious but I would be legally liable. Get it done by a licensed contractor. Good luck.
You guys, this is so weird, a few days ago, my hubs and I were talking about his experience w the scouts and how devastating it is that it’s been ripped apart. He and I are being called to do something about it and the education system in this country in general. I worry about the affects of emasculating boys and men. We need men! We need women! We have a purpose and society keep trying to stop us from fulfilling our purpose! I am praying for you/with you! This is how we FIGHT! We SERVE! That’s how it’s done! Thank you for being such a blessing! May God continue blessing you beyond measure!
We are so happy for you both! In your endeavor to make this a beautiful, safe, fun, exciting "Family" campground please be sure to fill the needs of older people having a quiet area to camp and then an area for the younger families with children. You will satisfy most people!
Our reasons for mentioning the above suggestion is we went out to eat at a restaurant and we were put across from a couple with baby. Then here comes 3 more with 2 louder children...we felt like we were at McDonald's
Daycare! I already had a headache...so please ask your fellow rver's if they have a preference....saves on complaints, dissatisfaction or bad scores. We want to see this work for you both!
CONGRATS! Prayers for your future going forth!
Yes, the campgrounds are full. Betting on many campers will be for sale next year.
many of the "covid" buyers , who actually hated RVing , will be putting many brand new rvs on the market. i think it will be buyer,s paradise next spring.
Or repossessed
My thoughts exactly!
Especially when fuel is $5 a gallon...
@@davisholman6518 being july 4th, hopefully after the summer holidays, gas will go down a little.
one thing to remember is that barge stuck in the Suez canal carried a lot of fuel ultimately headed for the U.S. - it might be part of that whole fiasco
"We need some rules." - John Condon. Rule #1: No tinkling on the steps of your RV.
or your neighbors!
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😀Love ya Jimmy
no tinkling on any part of a RV - if it's a must tinkle, i guess a tire...?
@@domestikgoddez9823 tinkling on tires is permissible in emergency situations only! lol
😂 Second this^
It's always been my wife and myselfs dream to own our own campground. We are so happy for you guys! I hope everything goes smoothly but I know if it doesn't you guys will tackle the challenges ahead as you always do. You've gotten this far because you are an amazing team. John, you remind me too much of myself lol. So happy for you guys. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
You both have an amazing vision for improving life for RV'ers and bringing back wholesome values/behaviors! Prayers for this great endeavor!
Best video ever, Who better then you guys, full time Rv'rs , no brainer. You guys are the perfect couple. God chose you guys to do this. Congrats.......
This idea sounds cool and that place looks so charming. There's something to be said for dry camping though and maybe we need to be more self sufficient. Could be spots for tent camping. I can see this as a place where families make memories. Bless you and God will guide you.
John and Mercedes, I absolutely and unequivocally love watching you both exhibit so much happiness, joy and love for each other and your little one also! .. You two make me giggle so much sometimes and feel so very happy watching all of your videos!! .. YOU ROCK ON ALL LEVELS!! .. So very happy for you and wishing you so much success and happiness with this new venture. Hope to one day reserve a spot in your super spectacular RV Park!! .. BRAVO!! .. YAY!!!
Where is this some would love to visit and help with the work. Volunteering is still very enjoyable and much of us can give you a week or 2 to improve your park. We will love the chance to build a fun and healthy community.
Cool! I stayed there 2 years ago with a group from the Huntsville Canoe Club, who has done yearly events there. It’s a beautiful place, but does need some work. We all had small rigs and tents, which worked well there. Hopefully there is room to make sites for larger rigs. Would love to camp there again!
Welcome to Alabama! We are 1 hr 45 min from the property. That is a beautiful part of Alabama and we are so excited for you and praying Gods blessings on you endeavor. Sweet home Alabama!
Oh my goodness, first time catching you guys because of curiosity about what you bought. I'm 63 and have been camping all my life and have seen the change in the atmosphere and in etiquette. I LOVE what you stand for! Red State, YES! Godly values, YES! Unincorporated land, YES! I wish I were in a place to help but I'll pray for your gigantic SUCCESS! Hopefully I'll get a chance to visit one day.
Glad you will have a campground of your own. A tip for some who are not able to find spaces along their way - often independent motels will allow folks to park in their parking lot for a small overnight fee - the caveat is that the RV probably has to be on the smaller side such as Class B or small Class C or truck campers. Of course, no use of a room unless paying regular rate for that. But some motels do allow use of the swimming pool in their generosity.
This sounds wonderful. Lots of work ahead, but wonderful for everyone who gets to participate. May God bless you in this endeavor. I don't RV, but I enjoy your channel. If I had discretionary funds, I would invest in your vision. Good Luck to all!
The RVers Boot Camp idea is a WINNER!!!!
Driving track for backing up RV's
Just don’t teach RV’ers to “GUN IT” when approaching an intersection!!
Escapees already offers RV Boot Camp. They also have a few co-op camps. Consult with them, find out the down and dirty from experience. Headquarters in Livingston, TX.
I make notes on every campground we hit as to what I would change. Where could I send my list? You should poll the Oddsquad on their TopTens. Things like having enough trash cans and benches all over, level sites, grass instead of gravel, WiFi and cable that work, allow dogs in the camp store, maintain the tree branches cut back for clearance, etc.
I will be praying for your endeavors.
Manage the timber ground, get a portable sawmill, so you can make your own lumber with your own timber to maintain and improve and build the property. Allow pets, and build a shooting range or three! Build a primitive camp portion for boon dockers and a glamping section, and a retro Rv area.
A shooting range sounds horrible. Who wants to listen to gunfire in nature?
@@kihntagious if the terrain will allow you can create it in such a way as to mitigate noise, gunfire is the sound of freedoms to this American, and any way to promote the 2nd amendment will be paid back in dividends by those who support our God given rights.
I remember camping at West Point, 8 am sound of machine guns over the ridge. At Vegas, sounds of roaring jets at 8 am These are the sounds of freedom!!
This looks like an excellent location. Near Huntsville for us rocket geeks, near Chattanooga for us train geeks, not far from Atlanta and pigeon forge. I would live to get a share. Looking for more informations you get more pictures etc.
It impresses me that you all are Christians, and are not afraid to mention Him as a major part of your lives. I'm just getting started and I know that God has had a hand in my transition from dissolving my home owned salon business, into living in an RV full time. It is a bit disheartening to learn RV parks are so crowded, your videos help a bunch. I love your idea about the RV park and having partners. I will definitely come to stay in your park if you get it....not sure about being a partner. But, I'm trying to figure out how to RV off the grid, with a 28 ft fifth wheel. I'd love to start a RUclips channel to fund my lifestyle, because I love to share my travels, but I don't want it to become a job.....so I'm thinking seriously about becoming a member and learning how to do it. Thanks for the support and your passion to help others!
My husbands business had someone that came to the office once a month and people would sign up to get haircuts in her trailer in the parking lot. People loved it. They could get a haircut in the middle of the day instead of after work or weekends. So convenient for both parties. Maybe a mobile salon would work for you?
Amen
I'm interested in helping out labor and money
Love your enthusiasm for this new opportunity. The key is to put together a sound business plan after you have done your due diligence. There is a reason the industry says the time between bid acceptance and closing is called the extortion phase. You may have to stage your projects into phases (short term campgrounds rentals, lot sales, RV training camps, etc). Invest first in what will provide you with a steady has flow that you can grow upon.
If you have to get bank financing you may want to consider a 7(a) or 504 fixed asset financing loan program. I am in the think tank group that you need to be the 51 percent or more controlling ownership if you have the management skills to handle all of it. Investors can be structured as standby equity, meaning the investors money stays in place until after the bank loan is paid in full. The 504 loan, in particular, can go up to a 20 year amortization for the fixed asset portion of the project which can bring your monthly mortgage payment more manageable. Go to one of the local Alabama Small Business Development Centers for free advise to help you put your business plan together - they don’t do it for you, they help you along the process. Red state or blue state, you cannot discriminate with government backed funds so be moderate in your narrative. It may be with your online following you can structure something more creative with investors without bank financing but that is not always possible when you get into the $1 Mil plus size of project acquisition plus necessary capital improvements.
I am a single woman weekender camper for 16 years who also happens to be a retired SBA finance chief. Love the camping lifestyle. SBA has been financing campgrounds designed for short term camper stays for decades. They don’t do speculative real estate sales deals. Good luck.
Great insight!
I'm not an rv'er, but for some reason I catch a lot of your videos. I'm so excited for you and this big endeavour you're embarking on. I have inlaws who winter in an rv park in Florida. It's nice as far as rv parks go, but everybody is sitting feet away from everybody else. I used to tent camp in the 70's (I'm in Canada) and the provincial parks had lovely, large, individual and divided-by-bushes sites. I've often wondered if there is anything like that still existing. I think what you have there fits the bill.
Yes, the world is not only sideways, but upside down. I'm a worried senior. I'll continue to watch your channel and get uplifted by your positivity. You can do it.
"If it don't scare you a little bit, you ain't thinking big enough."
- Mercedes
Love it!
So true I almost backed out of buy our little piece of land never did this before! Just under an acre beautiful area backs up to TVA!
@@terryobrien388 Sorry to ask - what does TVA stand for? : )
@TravelChic56 Thanks. Glad someone is in charge of all that.
@@celestepalm6949 Tennessee Valley Authority so government owned no one can build behind us!
Tip: Do not crowd campers together. Space and some privacy is essential to an AWESOME campground. Yes rules of common sense are neccessary.
Totally agree
Yes, agree!!
YES!!! This!
I think this is the number one complaint that people have with today’s RV parks that and the lack of shade. why on earth developers come and cut down all the trees especially here in Florida and then we wonder why the AC bills or $400 a month or folks need to run their generator all night long
Out of anyone they should know id think 😂
WOW WOW WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You two are BLOODY BRILLIANT.
Hope that all your drams come true.
You really deserve to succeed.
From a mad keen 77yo Aussie fan.
With your wonderful & cheery personalities,i'm sure you will get there.
Nice Property! I checked it out been on the market for a long time for about 10 years. It started off at 2 mil and now 750k wow. I definitely would be concerned over how much money is needed to renovate the property. A new business would be subject to building inspections to bring it to code. Sewer and other utilities can really add up. The cost of renovation could by far exceed the cst of buying the property. I would say be careful and really think it all out before acting. Good luck! syd
So true about the 70's campgrounds. 100% true.
Good luck in this new adventure, John and Mercedes. I am currently camping in north Alabama. Beautiful part of the country.
Best of luck to you guys!! It seems you have a great mindset and your ethics are for sure in line with what I would like to see. The idea of a RV Training Center is a jam up good idea!! I certainly don't begrudge any of the new folks that are buying RVs, but some of them simply don't have a clue as to what it really entails. Especially the newbie motorhome buyers, it's not as simple as jumping in the drivers seat and driving to a destination and looking for a place to park.
Boy, do I agree with you! Mainly because we are absolute NEWBIES and are having a used RV being checked out by our RV Mechanic as we speak. If it passes inspection, we will own an RV tonight. We are moving to Tenn with our dogs, so this seemed the most sensible option, but we are totally GREEN right now. We have until Sept to educate ourselves and grow a few brain cells about our 30' Southwind Storm. Wish us luck!!
That's the truth, I am learning as I go . Sometimes scary but I love it I'm 62 going on 40 💖🌺💕👋😊
I am so happy for you two :)
Our Dad was a Boy ScoutMaster from 1970 to 1993 in Maryland
Our Boy Scout Troop camped once a month September through June plus we went to Goshen Virginia for a week in July. Our Mom was a school teacher so we went on vacation as a family and in 1972 our parents bought a new 1972 Skamper pop up camper and camped as a family. We would setup a Boy Scout Troop Dining Fly over the picnic table by our Skamper pop up camper.
A favourite Campground growing up was Lake Arrowhead in North Myrtle Beach South Carolina, I found RUclips videos about Lake Arrowhead Campground in the 1960s and 1970s.
Your vision for Thunder Canyon reminds me of Lake Arrowhead Campground we grew going to each August for a week on the way to Louisiana for another week to visit our relatives
Wow Elbo Grease my parents would say that :)
In my Dad's Scout Troop we had Zero Degree Squad Certificates for our tent camping and weather went to or below zero degrees at night we were tough also the new Boy Scouts had to go looking for Left Handed Smoke Turners for redirecting the Campfire smoke
You are being blessed by God! This is so wonderful to see! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love listening to you both. Very inspiring couple. So refreshing to hear you share your faith as well. We are in the process of researching this lifestyle right now, hopefully when we pull the plug we can come visit your new campground. Praying this works out for you.
Congratulations!!! You two are one of the biggest reasons why we felt comfortable getting into full time rv living.
John and Mercedes, just to clarify something. You are not responsable for anyone and you shouldn't feel like that. You are genuine caring people and just continue being yourselves. It's not even being an American, it's about being a good kind human being. I'm from Canada and we will be going for 6 months in Florida in winter 2023 so a little nervous to find something when it's time. Your new project will surely be a hit so I'm excited to see where this will all lead to! Exciting times coming up for sure! Good luck and live the dream!
I think a rv remodel workshop twice a year would generate a lot of interest.
Excellent idea, even some kind of shared tool shed/building.
Never underestimate the power of idiots in large numbers. Best of luck in your journey
This WONDERFUL and EXCITING news!!!!! I’m so happy for y’all, and I’m excited to see how the Lord manifests His will in this situation. And... as a Texan, I’m so glad to hear that this land is in the South!!! Bravo!!!!!
Go Red Sox! LOL Great Channel & love your idea. [Our son had Aspergers, & then was in wheelchair from cancer. We're so THANKFUL you're remembering the disabled.] Keep up the great work. God Bless you! 🙏 Get some rest :)
Many of we retired military have access to on base family camps/RV parks. They too are often full and difficult to get a full hook up site. RV’ing is becoming more and more popular. Good luck on your journey. ☘️🍺
Congratulations to you and the entire “Squad Community” !! I propose “Squad work party weekends” to help with projects. Plus therapy for John and his rule enforcement crew🤣🤣🤣 Can’t wait!
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We live in Alabama and feel so privileged that you have chosen our state with this opportunity. We will be praying each step of the way. We are so excited..... Thank you
What part?
I live GA. From June until January the humidity is real. I get off work at 5am and it's already in the 70s. Then add the humidity on top. Our AC stays on 24\7. Kids don't even play outside in the afternoon unless they are in the pool or shade. Thunderstorms and torrential rains do not cool it down. Snakes and fireants Beware. Life does move slower in the South and for that I'm grateful. Good luck and have a blessed day.
As a soon to be newbie RV owner, that RV Boot Camp idea sounds awesome. Just set up a track and teach people like myself how to back a travel trailer into any spot. And you're only about 8 hours from where I'm at in Louisiana. Might have to make the trip there in a couple years once yall get it going.
Guys.......NO PARTNERS! If you do this, maintain full control over any and all decisions. You want "investors", not partners. I've been in business since I've been 21 years old and I've never had luck with partners.
I can help them with this. I am a professional recruiter and I profile people for a living to protect their business. I volunteer basically to double check. I trust our friends have good judgment but I’m here to help nonetheless 🤍🙏🏻 God bless.
@@dianahamister8175 They do need professional advice. My concern for them is that they are depending on faith and good will instead of using savvy business sense. What usually happens when people go into partnerships blindly is, they end up on the outside looking in and can't figure out what went wrong. What went wrong is, they ended up with a savvy devious partners.
@@WoodGuy I'll help. No bias.
So very true Wood Guy leaving everything to the Lord when it comes to guidance and protection scares me a bit. But they both seem like pretty sharp people, hopefully the Lord sounds the alarm bell when needed along this life altering journey.
We were only an 1.5 hrs from there in Springville Al this past week! We were heading to Fort Payne AL for a wild horse adoption event but broke down in Springville. We are new to Rving but we are Christians who would love to see a community of brothers and sisters in Christ coming together to build something like this. Filled out the volunteer form. Maybe we can help on a 3 day weekend or something.
Definitely interested in investing. My husband just retired. He was a CFO of his company for 35 yrs. We have camped for years but just purchased a new 5th wheel. We are a very conservative couple from Indiana in our 50’s. Please keep us updated! Love your energy & values! I watch you all the time & am an RV Squad member.
You guys are amazing! So many people don’t think of anybody but themselves. If your meant to have it God will provide. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Can’t wait to see what the most high brings to this. Bless you all. We will come through and hang out and help
You Muslim? H.I?
KUDOS to BOTH of you! I can see John's eyes and really do appreciate both of you and family! Brilliant, and I totally agree, we need a return to core values as this crazy world gets worse.... sadly. Even though the property is on an opposite coast for me, my gut tells me hmmmmmmm, can I participate? You are truly an exceptional pair for the Community, and Humanity as it should be, look forward to additional information as you explore the property and possibilities ! All the BEST to you and family! Cheers from Upper Left USA:)
My son was an Eagle scout before it went down. I appreciate your values!!!
Love our Eagle Scouts❤️🇺🇸🙏
Have you guys considered when you get the campground up and running, having somebody (or you guys) put in a long-term RV and run it like an Airbnb so people can get experience staying an RV before they buy their own.
My husband and i would stay just to see if we like the idea even if we don’t intend to get an RV. Some use airbnb but to have different experiences.
And that actually may give you guys some extra income as well. I love your RV training camp idea! You could totally have a contracted counselor in the area for mental health checks and pre RV personality inventories.
I've lived in Alabama all my life. It is a wonderful state to live in. Beautiful and friendly and the state government pretty much leaves you alone.
We love that area. I used to live in Huntsville Al. I would love to help if I can. I have a 60 commercial mover and a lot if tools.
I am from Alabama. Happy to hear this, can't wait to bring our rv when you open...Congrats
Congratulations and Good luck! I was already looking forward to visiting in the future then you said Alabama and it was done deal. Grew up and still live in Huntsville area. Campgrounds on lake Guntersville as a kid were ones that got me hooked. 5 years ago bought an old travel trailer I foolishly sold, back in the life upgrading an old conversion van that already love and can't wait to hit the road in.
Hey, another local. I work in HSV. (Live in Decatur tho).
@@brandydinsmore8214 work and live south Hsv for now.
How about making it a co-op with HOA fees going toward maintenance. You could pre sell as many lots as you need to rehab the facilities with early purchasers getting in a a reduced price, then once fully rehabbed the price for sales would be higher.
Just call the fees something else 🤣🤣
You don't want to make it an HOA. They are most rvers biggest headache 😕
Definitely interested - as long as you don’t plan to have wild parties with drunks running around all night. More of a family, community campground. Hubby retires in 4 years!
I can agree with this but I also would not want it to have rules like a home owners association (HOA). If I am to buy a space I also want the freedom to do ALL necessary maintenance and repairs at my discretion, not the parks.
Drunks *have to* run around.... Everyone knows they can't run in a straight line! 😉
@@Kjellmclean 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I worked at The National Geographic Society in the Photo Dept for 40 years and was a part of switching from conventional methods for image production to Digital methods. I say all this to offer my help from afar in production and imaging in any way I can.
Escapees have a series of “co-op” places. You can live full time OR have the co-op rent your site when you are traveling. I have access to 5 acres in central Alabama. I lived in Huntsville during my 10 years as a “rocket scientist “. I have handyman skills PLUS I know the reasons for the building codes. No shortcuts for me! I have my own tools!
You offer one of the few realistic tips I have seen. Escapees is one of the very few good places and contracts and the only I am familiar with. I would avoid all others as unknown. And see you are much like me. I was a Physicist and Rocket Scientist most of my working life. I have the tools and knowledge to fix anything myself. Though here in Costa Rica prefer hiring others and teaching them and loaning or buying their own tools so they can go into business on their own. My photo here. I was 73 years 5 months and some days old when taken. In Panama I get the Jubliado 20% discount as they think I am over 50 but under 60. At 60 I am entitled to the 40% Pensiado discount. Good enough. I perfer they think I am under 60. And to others you can see just how happy I am. Pura Vida!
Huntsville AL, Space Center worker there? I suppose my biggest space gig was Morton Thiokol in Utah building the Space Shuttle Rockets, Trident III, MX Peace keeper, and SHRAM missiles. But had many other high level jobs. Known as Chief Metrologist (not to be confused with a weatherman) and also several times as Vice President of Operations for several AeroSpace Corporation. With the ability in all to put over 50,000 into the unemployment line in minutes. And not even the CEO could fire me as my skill were too unique. If I did quit, it always took at least 8 to replace me. And still I would get calls and letters to return. At least one time they were hunting me down to get me back by force. Ah, those were the days. Now I am retired no need of additional income, free of all taxes. And living free with a wife that loves me, she and family and neighbors think of my almost as a god. As to that I once gave some money and cement to some men in Nicaragua. They built a statue of me, got it blessed by the Arch Bishop/Cardinal of Leon. And placed in Parque Central.. And note I have been an unwavering Atheist since age 6. Same Arch Bishop performed my Church Wedding. knowing all this. I was offered sacraments but declined. My wife and I gave away 96% of our combined incomes to Children's Charities in 8 countries in 2020. That other 4% is plenty. Not that I am any Bill Gates, but we live well on about $40,000 (or said to be about half the average income of couples in the US. But doubt the veracity of that( and in reality between $800 and $1000 monthly and still enough left over to travel the world 3 months a year. No children no relatives except my wife. Had I had children I expect he or she might have destroyed the world by age 18. As I was building rockets by age 8. And terrorizing. At age 11 found a missile I made had penetrated the roof of a Buic Special nearly 4 miles away. I was on my paper route. Returned and attached a note saying Sorry, Misguided Missile. That ended my rockets in the city. I would ride from then on 25 to 50 miles out on the desert to launch. But it continued until employed to do what I most liked. The best enjoyment and highly paid for it. And to think age 2 to 17 I grew up in an orphanage. Yeah anything is possible. Go for it!
I carry 100% Heath Coverage to 10 Million Euros with a 100 Euro deductible costing 108 Euros a month. Good in 244 countries. One of the few not covered is when I am in the US. Not good in North Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria or Iran either. But this is less than the 80% coverage on Medicare B that is good only in the US. I last paid $375 a month in 2010. And I actually pay rent and all utilities and internet on the savings. Medicare never covered my biggest concerns of the two AK bullets in me, one next to the spine, the other in my right kidney. Nor all the titanium hardware in my arm since 11 operations between 1972 and 1974. Like a Timex Watch I take a licking and keep right on ticking. Doesn't stop me from mountain biking in the Andes or bench pressing 110 kilos.
Lessons I learned in life is if you pursue money, money will evade you. And when you have lots of money and possessions it will become your own prison worrying about losing it as well as fear of all that are eager to take it from you. I have none of those fears. And giving away over 96% of our income gives a good feeling. Living on $800 to $1000 a month here about 25% above the national average. Our surviving income after giving the rest away, about $40,000 supposedly less than half the average of couples in the US. But still enough left over to travel the world 3 months a year. And some of that goes for those $15 food packs feeding 4 for a week I give away every week. Bad part is they weigh about as much as a concrete block without the two holes. And I am on foot or bike. Haven't driven a car in 9 years. $11 a gallon for gas while taxis get subsidized gas for around $1.70. No comparison. It is far cheaper just taking a taxi.
I looked at buying one in Murphy NC 10 years ago just could not get any buy in from my son. Now that campground is always packed. New Casino opened.
I would gladly buy in for either a site or just to be a member of this community. Not retired yet but would be happy to help out physically and or financially. I would not expect to have any say, but just help out. Yeah, I am no heavy hitter financially but would contribute. Keep us posted, sounds very exciting!
U and I feel exactly the same.
Not a heavy hitter, don't want a say, but totally trust their visions and the values they are putting forth.
I'm sure other would also be willing to make small contributions for small kickbacks that they could then reinvest or later buy a spot with said funds in the future.
Don't stress. One step at a time. Suggestion, get the campsites ready first. Enjoy the excitement!. .listen to the RV WINGMAN. Happy Camping
Ohhh. Alabamians here who have become full time, so excited about the possibility of this. Retired, Boy Scout/Girl Scout leaders, pastor and schoolteacher- would love to help and have a site!
your contracting skills set you up for this moment.
This sounds great, not quite ready to pull the trigger… but this is exactly where we want to be eventually. Good luck, and our prayers are with you. We’ll be watching.
RV Park wow! Good for you guys, These days I guess it's the safest way to go. We are just weekenders so for us it's a lot easier. So excited for you guys and I'll be watching it all unfold!
So exciting!
Congratulations on the purchase of your campgroundJuniper.
Having a secure and enjoyable home base for your RV is essential.
One of the happiest days of our 7 years of full-time RV’ing was when we purchased our golf course RV LOT at Juniper Ridge RV Resort in Show Low, Arizona.. You need to have a great home base to return to after your RV trips.