Saagar Enjeti & Marshall Kosloff | How Will a Second Trump Presidency Go? - The Realignment
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024
- In the latest edition of Saagar Enjeti and Marshall Kosloff's discussion and AMA series, they discuss the implications of Donald Trump's victory over Kamala Harris, whether Trump will misinterpret his mandate, immigration policy and the mass-deportation plan, why the left can't build its own Joe Rogan, and more...
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Hoodie Saagar is like running into your teacher at the grocery store
Lol... I m a teacher and one of my kids just ran into me at the grocery 10 minutes ago
More like the bar
😆
Genius
I almost didn’t recognize him😂🤪
is it legal for Saagar to not wear a suit?
Not the first time either on this pod like that
It should be illegal for Marshall to wear a guayabera shirt.
He set the expectation. Not our fault for pointing it out. 😋
This is Trump’s America 😭
I just realized for the first time he's a real person with a life outside the screen on my phone, so I'd rather be put the suit back on
I am in SHOCK seeing Saagar in a hoodie. My brain can't compute
i think we can all rest assured that it's a VERY NICE hoodie
@@halfsmoke5160 high level men's fashion hoodie. you're spot on
I thought it was a substitute guest for a second lol
Lmao they had a center left Joe Rogan and his name was Joe Rogan.
He still is Trump is a leftist. The left just went to the extreme left 😂 I used to be a leftist. These people are now pro war pro pharmaceutical pro censorship. Trump ain’t even conservative if he is against this
They can't get beyond their superficial perspective that he's a bald white male who loves fighting and talks about DMT, bears and chimps. What they want is a Joe Rogan corpocrat.
Exactly. Hearing libs say they need more podcasts is hilarious. That’s all they have. Also, they are unable to do long form- they have no talent bullpen.
That’s the most hilarious one to me, “we need our own Joe Rogan”. Look man, you HAD one, him, and lost him. Ah, so now you need a NEW one, one that aligns to you.
Sorta missed the point bud.
Didn’t know Saagar was chill like that fr
Saagar out here comfymaxxing
Saagar without Krystal 🔥🔥🔥🔥
it's called breaking points, they shouldn't be agreeing with each other, and he already gets plenty of glazing in the comments.
@@diydrivenGA it's not that. You can tell he bites his tongue and doesn't tell her when she is being stupid or hypocritical, because she brings the funding
@@diydrivenGATheir disagreements are poor quality. Saagar makes a coherent argument and she ignores it to repeat her talking points.
No consensus, no concessions, he just gives up or doesn't bother.
Right? So different!
@@RickSanchez167100. Krystal is legit retarded.
I have to admit that (I think) Saagar looks better in a suit. I will forgive him this one time,....and Marshall looks like a guest star on Love Boat.
Nah, he looks like a tech baddie
Love Boat guest is underrated comment
32:41 The “Democrat Joe Rogan” was literally Joe Rogan before he was pushed out lol
he was literally a bernie bro. way to fumble the ball capital D dummies. the dems abandoned the actual left for actual fascism.
He wasn't pushed anywhere, he lacks self-awareness and surrounded himself in a conservative echo chamber.
@@JaeLee83 Now that's ironic.
@@wateim3951isn’t it. The lack of self-reflection about the lack of self-reflection.
He was never a liberal.
Saagar needs to push his points through more. He hints at a lot of things that he never fully explains.
Being humble causes ppl to downplay
Saagar must have went on a victory bender all weekend. He looks like he's finally tired of winning.
I believe he just flew to Japan.
schlub hoodie saagar, I love it
his work is done. fascism is here no more need to push for it.
Zaddy
@@vpaczkowskiIs this joke?
I gotta say, he looks WAY cuter in the hoodie! 😍
Hey, I just wanted to thank Marshal (and Saagar for the early years) for making this the most thoughtful political podcast I've followed. The mix of historical, economic and niche policy issues is both educational and interesting. I'd be interested to hear if your thoughts about Polymarket have changed now that we know the French whale was running his own research before and throughout his wagers (as opposed to simply throwing money in on vibes).
Thanks! And yes, I (Marshall) was way too bearish on Polymarket. Definitely something I need to learn more about.
I’ll continue to dunk on Saager for using liberal polls and never using Atlas or adjacent on Breaking Points. Polling is officially done, don’t want to hear about Nate Silver or any other liberal clown.
Saagar was right in line with Krystal with how the election was going... Breaking Points was insufferable this election.
@JayKno420 I finally had to bail a while back after trying really hard to hear what Krystal had to say but finally realizing that what she had to say wasn’t useful or particularly profound.
Also got tired of Saagar repetitively using boomer as a pejorative. Not insightful or helpful.
Having ragged on enough, good segment today. Thank you.
@@richardlindquist5936 I unsubscribed but I still watch and it's just dissapointing... Krystal obviously disdains Trump but theres something Saagar doesnt like either and I think its literally Trumps supporters he doesnt like. So basically if you support trump dont expect fair assesments theyre going for the juggler everytime while giving Trumps opponents light criticisms. I'm watching and waiting for them to differ from MSM but they're just a younger version of it.
@@richardlindquist5936I try bailing myself, which I probably should. They were more neutral at one point, but have succumb to the DC swamp for access.
@@JayKno420so right, very disappointing. Unfortunately, they will never go back to being the reason they started BP in the first place.
The Saagar hoodie jump scare.. biggest surprise of Nov '24
*November surprise*
Saagar without a suit is my next year's Halloween costume
Saager needs to leave breaking points. He is so much better without Krystal
I 2nd that
Emily should replace krystal
Amen! Or replace her with Emily. Krystal is unbearable and married to that little woke cuck Kyle Kulinski
You do know the whole point of breaking points is to have people on the other side right? You are basically saying you just want an echo chamber. Weak.
@@yidpgh FACTS
Everyone who has been living in the real world knew Trump was going to win. You could feel the massive energy shift
Yeah Saagar should base his analysis off of your "energy shift" dude
@kordanot are you taking the phrase "energy shift" as some sort of psychic spiritual relm shit? If so, I can assure you that outside of his Washington bubble, the overwhelming majority of people were done with this shit.
@@rxdoctordaddy1795 Yeah, it was pretty obvious. Once you started seeing MAGA hats in major cities, you should have known it was over.
THIS.lots of RUclipsrs were doing street interviews, everone was saying TRUMP.
Podcast without Krystal ball. Yes. 😂😂😂
Saagar, I know you make a lot of money on Breaking Points but dude, you need an exit plan. Krystal and Kyle have lost their minds, time to plan for the future.
Yea but then we wld lose a very unique show in which the co-hosts who are on a very different political spectrum. I enjoy that very much. Too many political podcasts are co-hosts in an echo chamber
@@solidkwonlol Krystal isn’t objective though and Saagar doesn’t challenge her. Two different view points is great but Krystal is a TDS wokie masquerading as an independent democrat. There’s a reason so many people hate Krystal now and and a lot of us used to be huge fans of the show.
@@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez Waaaa. I want my safe space. People like you are the worst of humanity.
Sagaar got the 2022 predictions completely wrong, race after race and argued that abortion wouldn’t be an important issue. You didn’t say he’s lost the plot and he was completely disconnected did you?
Dems won in 2012, lost in 2016, won in 2020, lost this year. Nothing is set in stone so anybody making definitive declarations about the American electorate is just wish casting.
@@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez i suppose that’s how you feel. I’m a leftist so I cant relate to ur sentiment, but I still appreciate the show as I have warmed up to Sagaar in a lot of ways, so much so that I’m even checking out Realignment. I disagree with Sagaar on so many things and agree with Krystal on like 95% of things so for me, I still like there’s a show like Breaking Points in which two people with very, very different political idealogies can come together and be co-hosts
How are we having a conversation about Joe Rogan and a left Joe Rogan without acknowledging that Joe Rogan was considered on the left less than four years ago?
Wasn't that long ago...at all ..within a year maybe....when Joe did that Pauly Shore interview and Pauly genuinely said in passing that Joe's a Repub and Joe was caught off guard....stating he'd never voted red in his life. Which was probably true up until recently.
Joe Rogan IS a "center left Joe Rogan"
Saagar is so pessimistic 😂😂😂 too rational
Yeah, I think he's just being overly negative so he can be pleasantly-surprised when it goes well.
He's a damn wet blanket full of f-bombs. Krystal wasn't the only reason I stopped watching Breaking Points. ☹️
All of Saagar’s suits are at the dry cleaner right now
I'm glad I tuned out of the Realignment podcast and Breaking points.
It hindsight, I wonder if Harris's campaign knew it was over a week before the election. Messaging was scattered with lots of 'Trump fascist' talk. That was not a sign of a confident candidate.
Internal polling probably showed this.
Internal polling showed her losing for weeks. She never really took the lead.
There already is a center-left Joe Rogan.
His name is Joe Rogan.
Huh? Joe got Red pilled. He and MANY others are now would be called center right. Censorship was THE most under reported reason for this thumping in 2024. Joe, Elon, Taibbi, Shellenberger, Bari, Dave Smith, even Charlemagne and a host of that saw the Old Dude behind the frantically curtains pulling levers. No Mas...
He likes weed and doesn’t care about gay marriage. Probably is pro choice.. is that enough boxes to tick him off as a centre lefty?
Are you guys going to start posting here together regularly again?
Yes! We're going to figure out the cadence, but we'll work something out
For someone who didn’t follow Saagar to BP because Krystal was just mind rotting him, it’s nice to see him open up here more.
A lot more confident, he knows exactly what he wants to do in his second term.
I didn't know Saagar had something else going on. I just subscribed. Total supporter of Sag 👍🏼
Saagar before morning coffee
Great to see you and Saagar together again!
Love this show 😮
Regarding Rogan’s swing to the Right, don’t underestimate Joe’s experience with the Left in 2020.
Sagar can be free to express his opinions now as his teacher is not here 😂😂😂
If Democrats need a Joe Rogan, they can just show up on Joe Rogan.
We got hoodie saagar before GTA VI & World War III
I think I’ve watched one episode of this in the past… it is crazy to see Sagar so casual
Saagar looks like a Tech CTO in the hoodie
Is it possible being bullied by the democratic people caused their demise?
Good to see you guys
I clicked on this video just to see the Saagar comments. You guys did not disappoint 😂
Saagar why aren’t you in your suit ??! Blink twice if you need help !!
I remember Saagar saying (and I agreed) that the Republican party could never win another national election again after Biden won. As it turns out, no one could have predicted how badly the Biden administration would go for leftists and conservatives
Trump 2024, Vance 2028+2032
Saagar in a hoodie instead of a suit?!
What is this heresy?!
Seeing Saagar without a suit is like seeing a unicorn
No, the Republicans were blown out in 2008, not because of Iraq, but because of the economy, because home loan prime rate collapse.
No republican would have stood a chance in ‘08. The planets were aligned against them
the sartorially sharp gentlemen - looking forward to this
Bad news. We're dressed casually for this one
@@therealignment Saagar would never
@@therealignment loool 😆 appreciate the heads up tho
@@GeorgeVajagich he made you eat your words haha😂
@@therealignment Casual Mondays are great
I'm a leftist but I think Marshall is an intelligent and incisive analyst. He should do some guest spots on BP
SAGGER in a hoodie hurts my eyes.
hoodie slaps
The Republicans have some great young thinkers... Vivek and Vance
Bruh, NO SUIT SAAGAR?! Never thought I'd see the day
Came here for the Saagar sweatshirt comments. I have not been let down.
Saagar: "nah, this isn't a victory lap, i wasnt right ENOUGH"
Bro Saagar is good!
Holy sh1t. I've followed breaking points since day one & I've NEVER seen Saagar w/o a suit AND his hair not combed. These two simple facts, was worth the click & the subscribe alone lmao.
I think Saagar's predictions have already missed! 🤔
Daylight savings has hit Saagar HARD.
Why did Harris lose? Like Hillary in 2016, she had been an annointed candidate. Let an honest and opwn primary contest determine the candidate.
3:16 wrong again. The 2022 midterms poll aggregate done by RCP showed polls underestimated Republican performance.
The Democrats don't need their own Joe Rogan. They just need to _go on_ Joe Rogan. The guy is not inclined to the right. Everyone is basically welcome on his show. If instead of attacking him, they start going on there and having conversations with him, they'll have influence with his fans. He has exactly zero fucks to give about audience capture. He'll talk to anybody.
Joe endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2020. They had Joe Rogan until the transgender issue and men in woman’s sports nonsense.
I want more morning hoodie Saagar
Saagae in a hoodie inventing the phrase "The Great flippening" on a show called The Realignment. Nice.
I got my 2024 map right, and came close to getting my 2020 map right. There actually is a way to intelligently look at the data, even if Krystal doesn't.
What about using the money from the tariffs to pay for the mass deportation program?
Deficits aren't problems for Republican administrations anyways, they can allocate whatever money they want.
As a Bernie supporter, if he had been elected in the same way and margin as trump just was, and even moved all the red states left in the same manner, I probably woulda said 'now THATS a mandate, now sit down, shut up, and let us do what we were elected to do'
And since I try not to be a hypocrite, imma take my own advice, sit back and watch.
If that many people voted for him to clean up immigration, it would be kinda wrong for him to just pay lip service and do nothing.
Bernie sold out. He was against illegal immigration stating it was a Koch brothers idea. Then he flips. The U.S. admits over 1 million LEGAL immigrants per year and has since 1998. A Yale/ MIT study in 2018 puts the number of illegal aliens at 22 million, not the 11 million that’s been reported since the Bush administration. Then Biden essentially opened the border.
[Source: U.S. Customs and Border Protection website]
2019 Southern Border Encounters 851,508 (Remain in Mexico Policy initiated by Trump)
2020 Southern Border Encounters 400,651
2021 Southern Border Encounters 1.73 million (Remain in Mexico Policy terminated by Biden)
2022 Southern Border Encounters 2.37 million
2023 Southern Border Encounters 2.47 million
2024 Southern Border Encounters 1.73 million (as of September)
At least we didn't get the My Pillow guy on the cabinet.
Why is it that what are the odds with baris and Barnes has a better pulse on what’s going on than this?
What’s happening?? Saager in a hoodie!!!😂
We got hoodie Saagar before gta 6
Evidence right and your face, and you still won'tt call out the shenanigans of 2020.
39:44 great point on the Dana white stuff, he’s super anti jounarlist and banned that one dude who has a huge fan base because he would ask hard questions and also pivoted from doing any interviews ti purely doing podcast started doing this podcast strategy circa 2020
Saagar looks funny to me no matter what he wears. He's a funny looking guy.
As a bitcoiner, Saagar should understand Metcalfe's law, which is an exponential effect. X grew rapidly over the past year, opening people up to a new understanding of reality that was not sold to them by mainstream media or other social media platforms. Each one of those people can go on to influence others in their circles. Soon, the predominant view on X will reflect the predominant view in America and then the world.
We got Saagar without a suit and Marshall with a stache before GTA 6
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respect Marshall, he seems like a good dude, but he's gotta start that show with the energy saagar has, morning dj energy.
I think that the Republicans can maintain office for some time to come, if they can maintain appeal to the working class. I'm a union guy, and most unions are still leaning heavy into the democratic party and the identity politics. I'm registered unaffiliated, but only after losing my faith in the D party about 4 years ago, just after the last election. I voted Trump this time, and I actually feel some relief knowing that Kamala is out. My key issue is National security, which means a secure border and the respect of foreign governments both friend and foe. The current administration is incapable of any relations with our enemies and our allies don't have respect for this administration.
Loving the looks, gentlemen. Keep up the great work. 🎉
Term limits!!!!!
I love how Marshall accidently described Joe rogans reposition from center left to center right politics over the last 4 years. He used to be left leaning and over the insanity that was the last 4 years he has moved firmly to the right. The left had a joe Rogan esque figure in joe Rogan and lost him
I'll say it again.
Just pay attention to the right pollsters.
Rasmussen, Trafalgar, Atlas-Intel.
idk why but i just assumed Saager wears his suit to bed LOL
No suit bro!!??????
Good talk guys! From a center right perspective, the left went too authoritarian with vax mandates, censorship, bombardment of wokeness etc. The inauthenticity of the Harris campaign was a turn off as well. Media tried to paint her as this amazing transformative candidate when she was not. I understand the game and they had to do what they had to to try and win but it’s felt like an insult to my intelligence
The observation that turnout for Maga in 2022 wasn’t good aligns well with the fact that older demographic went for Kamala in this election. The elderly typically have a higher turn out in midterms
ahahahahahah hey Neil Degrassi Tyson
Analysts who were wrong.
This is Saager after his bong rips
I’m still trying to figure out how it was a landslide? They didn’t say Obama in 2008 or 2012 had a landslide or a mandate?
Saagar partied so hard he became everything he hates
Saagar really let himself go boy... Took that loss hard I see...
40:00
Bill Simmons is like the antithesis of Joe Rogan in many ways.
Joe is a center left guy who shifted to the Republican party while Bill is a center right guy who shifted to the Democratic party.
He can finally relax
Lol to everyone thinking Saagar goes to bed in a suit.😂
2000 was the first Presidential election I was old enough to vote in. I remember all of it: Hanging chads, The "Mandate", WMDs, private accounts for social security
Not only is Trump not capable of helping other REP candidates win, I don't think he will be motivated to do so.
Bong rips for Saagar
38:30
I voted on
1. Democracy - Trump literally is a fascist but that argument didn't sell to casuals who voted on vibes
2. Economy - Harris tax plan is beneficial for all but the top 1% of earners while Trump tax plan continues to exasperate wealth inequality with it only benefitting top 1%
3. WaPo had a survey that showed 80% of voters preferred Kamala's policies to Trump. If you look at the trends, now in 2024 the Democratic party for well educated and high income voters for the first-time (was the opposite in 1992).
Too many uneducated voters in rural areas without college degrees shifting to Trump because of vibes where the Democrats code as far left socially with technocrat economics while Republicans code as moderate Christian socially with the appearance of working class economics when there's a reason Musk glazed Trump so hard.
The democratic policies should stay pretty similar but the figure head needs to be a Clinton like figure with charisma unlike Biden/Harris who didn't have good enough rhetoric to overpower the right's messaging that painted them as far left elites.
Is that guy Andy Beshear? I have no clue, but Trump will get stale (both rhetorically and physically - he's an obese 80 year old man with a slow brain)
If Democrats can cleanse the party of the ancient figureheads like Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, even putting Obama to the past (he's currently the most popular Democrat) and create a new party that is essentially pragmatically progressive in a way that appeals to the rural and low educated while the Republicans code as technocrat with figureheads like JD Vance, Vivek, Elon. It'll be interesting at the very least.
I'm tired of the Trump era of hyper polarization and the rise of neo-Nazi ideology (Fuentes, Carlson, pro-Russia cucks like Pool, etc.)
Student Saagar in full effect.