I love the title he chose - the Hungry Artist. I think it calls attention to the ridiculousness of the pricetag, and the corrupt nature of the art world. While some artists starve, the elite gets richer. Ultimately I think the Comedian is a derivative work. But, as you say, its statement has received a counter point and started a dialogue. I like it for that. Great video!
Absolutely agree, except for the bit of about 'Comedian' being derivative. Isn't so much of art, including film and various forms of storytelling, derivative? Originality doesn't mean much until people react to it. Not knowing anything about Maurizio, I feel like he may have been a bit of a troll, but not in a bad way. His art has a distinctly tongue-in-cheek feeling. And i love that in the end, the interaction with his 'artworks' kind of contributed to the art. He is almost /inviting/ you to mock it. I also love David Datuna's equally tongue-in-cheek "performance art" to the point where i wonder if this act was actually a collaboration. And you are right in that there is an element of ridiculousness to the audacious pricetag, the fact that it was bought almost a wordless commentary on how absurd the world of fine art is to the average consumer. In the end, the rest of us get to laugh at the banana being eaten and the urinal being urinated on. And I feel that might have been the intent of these artworks all along: not preservation but reaction.
I see similarities to Who's Afraid of Red, Yellow, and Blue? 3. It made some people angry and one dude angry enough to slash the hell out of it...the interesting thing is that out of all the ways one could "vandalize" art, all three of these situations were done in a way that recognizes or doesn't completely destroy the original. Even eating the banana left a peel.
Its mockery of material and at the same time has an absurd aesthetic to the idea. A banana in a shop and a banana in a gallery does make you look at it in a different perspective. The whole concept makes me appreciate it and at the same time makes me laugh.
I really like the idea of hungry artist. As artists are often stereotyped as starving. So eating the world's most expensive banana, which is in itself an artwork, it shows an artist consuming art which they themselves cannot afford. Well, that is in short what my thought regarding it is. I could write an essay on it tbh. XP
Yes, yes it is all valid. The concepts, which are not really original but use past art as reference points and inspiration or motivation, and as my late sculpture teacher used to say "So a shoe is a sculpture, as soon as you put it on a base in a gallery. Now it just needs to stand beside every other sculpture. How does it stack up?" There is only so much that the still life starting point, the banana, representation, real life as still life, and so on that the banana piece is good for. After the one clever discussion about how delightfully concepts and references and paradoxes dance around with this piece, the performance piece by the hungry artist, well, that's about it for the banana. Warhol did it. Duchamp, Picasso used caning from a chair, I think, as the first found object inclusion in somewhere around 190-? But it's all just interesting. The recent Manet commentary paralleled this discussion because it's all about how much can you bonk people on the head with to not be disliked and dismissed but instead talked about and popularized . In summary, I like how the banana broke loose some thinking. These happenings are always interesting. But short lived in terms of offering lots of consideration over a long time. That is, it doesn't make such great viewing. So it's not really a great work. But then, brief well written good jokes are valid, even compared to epic novels. It's just relative. The banana is no big deal.
I love this piece because it’s literally a troll. In art, there’s no such thing as bad publicity. The more emotion and reflection an art piece can lead people to feel, the more successful it is. It doesn’t really matter if those reflections are positive or negative. This banana is art in my opinion. Silly, fun, and all the same successful, art.
Excellent travail et analyse. Je ne connaissais pas bien l'oeuvre de Cattelan justement et je te remercie de me donner quelques clefs de lectures possibles.
My 7yo just used a sticker to attach a pen to notebook paper and proclaimed it was her latest work. I said, "Crazy, babe. And you don't even know about the banana." She said, "The Banana! I want to see it! The Banana sounds hilarious!" No b.s. Just happened.
I... had no idea that the banana was taped by an artist. I thought it was a tool and that the museum assigned it an art status. If I were in a museum and I saw a banana on a wall I'd assume it was a troll and move on to whoever else there was, yet I still wouldn't touch it. Maybe its a sort of "well, thats not my problem" kinda thing, if i had no idea of it's status. Man, All i knew was that some dude taped a banana to a wall, not that it was an actual art thing
Your intelligent comments and thoughts on every Artwork, Artist, period of Art etc that you have made, leave your audience thinking about and learning something new. But it didn't happen (al least for me) with this "banana case"... It's not you, but an empty subject full of Potassium.
Yup, America was a golden crapper. It didn't need the action of doing it. But the fact it got stolen is sortof the ultimate confirmation of the piece and I would have immediately suspected the artist himself to be in on it.
He doesn't actually! The banana is replaced every couple of days, so he just ate a banana that would have been replaced anyway. The pricetag is not on the banana itself, but more on the concept (if you do buy Comedian, you get a certificate of authenticity. That's what people actually pay for)
I'd have placed the banana peel on thr floor when I was done eating it, and therefore improved the original "Comedian" . Also not made a smug show of eating saying "performance performance" which doesn't tango with "Hungry Artist" if you want to really make that point. But of course he was in fact hungry for the spotlight. If he'd gotten sued he'd have made alot of money selling the subpoena as a piece of art. That sortof thing's been done before but it obviously still works. It's funny someone bought Comedian and has a random banana duct taped to their wall they change every other day with a "certificate of authenticity" signed by the artist next to it. Is it at all possible that art collector doesn't realize the joke's on them or is it simply a fun way to display to your friends your patronage to an artist? Also, nothing could have been more validating of "America" (the golden crapper) than the fact it was stolen. Did they ever investigate if the artist was in on it? I'd just assume they were, but it may be hard to prove if there's no footage. But galleries and museums have incredible security so also that would point to an inside job. 🤷♀️
If “The Comedian” has anything new to say, its only that the trick “Fountain” did still works, which is something. Then again, people are still talking about, and angry at, “Fountain” 100 years later, so maybe we didn’t need “Comedian” to prove its still relevant. Maybe it’s just because Duchamp is long dead, but “Comedian” feels more cynical than “Fountain” to me. “Comedian” seems a little like the work of smug rich artist without much to say.
Remember the days when you needed to be at a high level of technical skill to be considered an artist and how artists spent years painstakingly developing their skill? Those days were nice.
I love all your videos, but regarding Cattelan, I think he doesn’t even deserve a video. It is people as he, who proclaim themselves as “artists” who have deteriorated the real art. He doesn’t even make his own sculptures. This is only marketing in a money-making art market
It is what it is, a banana taped onto a wall. "The Hungry Artist" -performace was hilarious. Datuna knew he was basically commiting a crime, vandalising a piece of art. He was challenging an audience of "art-people", urban citizens who have gotten so out of touch from reality, that they consider a banana taped onto a wall as a piece of art. And no one even tried to challenge him for it. This was as much of a dialogue, as Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. Japanese people built their culture, U.S empire comes and drops some bombs, just get their names into history books. Same effect. Banana gets eaten, Japan gets bombed to dark ages, Mr. Datuna gets appraised, and so does Harry S. Truman. Comedian and The Hungry Artist tells everythig you need to know about society. Why it was called a "Comedian"? Because it was just that. A sculpture of a comedian. Very short lifespan, a quick botch job, and the iconic banana. And it makes you laugh. "Look there's banana ducktaped onto a wall" Why this was more like vandalism to atrificially boost Datuna's name? The way he approached the act. In his mind, he was commiting a crime. He was commiting a crime to make a name for himself. Just like president Truman. The act can be considered as a performance just like dropping two atomic bombs into a country who was already surrendered, as an act of warfare. Within this concept, it is legal, if you own an art degree, to go inside a museum and vandalise a piece of art, if you can come up with a catchy name for your "performance" just remember to shout out the safe-word "This is a Performance!"
I love the title he chose - the Hungry Artist. I think it calls attention to the ridiculousness of the pricetag, and the corrupt nature of the art world. While some artists starve, the elite gets richer.
Ultimately I think the Comedian is a derivative work. But, as you say, its statement has received a counter point and started a dialogue. I like it for that.
Great video!
Absolutely agree, except for the bit of about 'Comedian' being derivative. Isn't so much of art, including film and various forms of storytelling, derivative? Originality doesn't mean much until people react to it. Not knowing anything about Maurizio, I feel like he may have been a bit of a troll, but not in a bad way. His art has a distinctly tongue-in-cheek feeling. And i love that in the end, the interaction with his 'artworks' kind of contributed to the art. He is almost /inviting/ you to mock it. I also love David Datuna's equally tongue-in-cheek "performance art" to the point where i wonder if this act was actually a collaboration. And you are right in that there is an element of ridiculousness to the audacious pricetag, the fact that it was bought almost a wordless commentary on how absurd the world of fine art is to the average consumer. In the end, the rest of us get to laugh at the banana being eaten and the urinal being urinated on. And I feel that might have been the intent of these artworks all along: not preservation but reaction.
I see similarities to Who's Afraid of Red, Yellow, and Blue? 3. It made some people angry and one dude angry enough to slash the hell out of it...the interesting thing is that out of all the ways one could "vandalize" art, all three of these situations were done in a way that recognizes or doesn't completely destroy the original. Even eating the banana left a peel.
Its mockery of material and at the same time has an absurd aesthetic to the idea. A banana in a shop and a banana in a gallery does make you look at it in a different perspective. The whole concept makes me appreciate it and at the same time makes me laugh.
I really like the idea of hungry artist. As artists are often stereotyped as starving. So eating the world's most expensive banana, which is in itself an artwork, it shows an artist consuming art which they themselves cannot afford.
Well, that is in short what my thought regarding it is. I could write an essay on it tbh. XP
THIS RULES. Thank you for making this.
Yes, yes it is all valid. The concepts, which are not really original but use past art as reference points and inspiration or motivation, and as my late sculpture teacher used to say
"So a shoe is a sculpture, as soon as you put it on a base in a gallery. Now it just needs to stand beside every other sculpture. How does it stack up?"
There is only so much that the still life starting point, the banana, representation, real life as still life, and so on that the banana piece is good for.
After the one clever discussion about how delightfully concepts and references and paradoxes dance around with this piece, the performance piece by the hungry artist, well, that's about it for the banana. Warhol did it. Duchamp, Picasso used caning from a chair, I think, as the first found object inclusion in somewhere around 190-? But it's all just interesting. The recent Manet commentary paralleled this discussion because it's all about how much can you bonk people on the head with to not be disliked and dismissed but instead talked about and popularized .
In summary, I like how the banana broke loose some thinking. These happenings are always interesting.
But short lived in terms of offering lots of consideration over a long time.
That is, it doesn't make such great viewing. So it's not really a great work. But then, brief well written good jokes are valid, even compared to epic novels. It's just relative. The banana is no big deal.
It is the same dada trick, yes!
I like how the tape and the banana formed a ”X”. Very satisfying
Thank you for your channel. I get a lot of ideas and information to write my art articles :)
Aw thank you! I'm happy these videos can be inspirational!
I love this piece because it’s literally a troll. In art, there’s no such thing as bad publicity. The more emotion and reflection an art piece can lead people to feel, the more successful it is. It doesn’t really matter if those reflections are positive or negative. This banana is art in my opinion. Silly, fun, and all the same successful, art.
I think the art performance would have been improved if he didn't keep saying "art performance, art performance.."
Definately. That part was pretty lame. If it's Hungry Artist just eat the damn thing and don't be smig about it.
he should have called eating the banana "The Artist Takes a Joke"
Somebody just ate it
I think it’s just a recontextualized banana getting reversed into its original context
That was so funny when that guy ate the banana
About the two last questions:
1) yes
2) yes
Nice video! Really enjoyed it!
Excellent travail et analyse. Je ne connaissais pas bien l'oeuvre de Cattelan justement et je te remercie de me donner quelques clefs de lectures possibles.
‘Comedian,’ huh... I get it.
The hysterically humorous tragedy that humanity is.
If I strap a banana to a screen in town square, would it be the same price as the screen
My 7yo just used a sticker to attach a pen to notebook paper and proclaimed it was her latest work. I said, "Crazy, babe. And you don't even know about the banana." She said, "The Banana! I want to see it! The Banana sounds hilarious!" No b.s. Just happened.
Here after someone ate the banana off the wall at a gallery
its a banana on a wall !
In the Art History what is not Tradition is plagiarism...
And some student eat it 😂
Some kid ate it lol
the banana incident
I... had no idea that the banana was taped by an artist. I thought it was a tool and that the museum assigned it an art status. If I were in a museum and I saw a banana on a wall I'd assume it was a troll and move on to whoever else there was, yet I still wouldn't touch it. Maybe its a sort of "well, thats not my problem" kinda thing, if i had no idea of it's status. Man, All i knew was that some dude taped a banana to a wall, not that it was an actual art thing
This may be the most famous banana from history
Art is for audience and artist. Only they can evaluate its value not some accountants
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I win.
Your intelligent comments and thoughts on every Artwork, Artist, period of Art etc that you have made, leave your audience thinking about and learning something new. But it didn't happen (al least for me) with this "banana case"... It's not you, but an empty subject full of Potassium.
My doubt is how come they are going to prevent the banana from getting rotten . Or are they going to change it every few days??
yes that's what they do, that's why eating it was not that bad, because they change it all the time anyway
I hear somebody ate it; I wonder if it would have been better as a smoothy
My man just pull out a dark tape and tape a banana on the wall 😂😂
Was it planned by the artist
I think we should all go Guerrilla and tape bananas to the walls of all contemporary art spacea, or the bants
Gorilla lol
Woawww, super génial!! What if je tape une constellation de raisins sur mon mur??? :O
Gotta love this generation
Can you do one about Erik Thor Sandberg? I'd love to hear your take on him
I guess if Fountain was pissed on then America was shit on?
Yup, America was a golden crapper. It didn't need the action of doing it. But the fact it got stolen is sortof the ultimate confirmation of the piece and I would have immediately suspected the artist himself to be in on it.
You know what reckless Ben did a better job at the banana.
Does Datuna have to pay Cattelan now?
He doesn't actually!
The banana is replaced every couple of days, so he just ate a banana that would have been replaced anyway. The pricetag is not on the banana itself, but more on the concept (if you do buy Comedian, you get a certificate of authenticity. That's what people actually pay for)
what "authenticity"?
i can put an invisible cloth and made profit from it against a rich fool, just like from a children story "the king's new cloth"
@@shaine1212 the idea is what you are paying for.
@@TheCanvasArtHistory so could anyone purchase “The Hungry Artist”?
I'm sorry it's really annoying me that the $ sign is the wrong way round. Thanks for the video though.
"Art" "Artist". Right.
i think both are funny
Banana
I'd have placed the banana peel on thr floor when I was done eating it, and therefore improved the original "Comedian" .
Also not made a smug show of eating saying "performance performance" which doesn't tango with "Hungry Artist" if you want to really make that point. But of course he was in fact hungry for the spotlight.
If he'd gotten sued he'd have made alot of money selling the subpoena as a piece of art. That sortof thing's been done before but it obviously still works.
It's funny someone bought Comedian and has a random banana duct taped to their wall they change every other day with a "certificate of authenticity" signed by the artist next to it.
Is it at all possible that art collector doesn't realize the joke's on them or is it simply a fun way to display to your friends your patronage to an artist?
Also, nothing could have been more validating of "America" (the golden crapper) than the fact it was stolen. Did they ever investigate if the artist was in on it?
I'd just assume they were, but it may be hard to prove if there's no footage. But galleries and museums have incredible security so also that would point to an inside job. 🤷♀️
It's a 120,000$ turd now 😂
Tape the feces to the wall
This is just ridiculous
I see a swastika.
Can't wait to see what Family guy has to say about this "fucking art". 😁
If “The Comedian” has anything new to say, its only that the trick “Fountain” did still works, which is something. Then again, people are still talking about, and angry at, “Fountain” 100 years later, so maybe we didn’t need “Comedian” to prove its still relevant. Maybe it’s just because Duchamp is long dead, but “Comedian” feels more cynical than “Fountain” to me. “Comedian” seems a little like the work of smug rich artist without much to say.
i dont going to lie, i hate it and it's probably what it was "intended to be" and obviously money laundry.
Es la mayor estupidez que he visto en mucho tiempo 😂😂😂
😂
Remember the days when you needed to be at a high level of technical skill to be considered an artist and how artists spent years painstakingly developing their skill?
Those days were nice.
you weren't even born
I love all your videos, but regarding Cattelan, I think he doesn’t even deserve a video. It is people as he, who proclaim themselves as “artists” who have deteriorated the real art. He doesn’t even make his own sculptures. This is only marketing in a money-making art market
Art impostors...
It is what it is, a banana taped onto a wall. "The Hungry Artist" -performace was hilarious. Datuna knew he was basically commiting a crime, vandalising a piece of art. He was challenging an audience of "art-people", urban citizens who have gotten so out of touch from reality, that they consider a banana taped onto a wall as a piece of art. And no one even tried to challenge him for it. This was as much of a dialogue, as Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. Japanese people built their culture, U.S empire comes and drops some bombs, just get their names into history books. Same effect. Banana gets eaten, Japan gets bombed to dark ages, Mr. Datuna gets appraised, and so does Harry S. Truman.
Comedian and The Hungry Artist tells everythig you need to know about society. Why it was called a "Comedian"? Because it was just that. A sculpture of a comedian. Very short lifespan, a quick botch job, and the iconic banana. And it makes you laugh. "Look there's banana ducktaped onto a wall" Why this was more like vandalism to atrificially boost Datuna's name? The way he approached the act. In his mind, he was commiting a crime. He was commiting a crime to make a name for himself. Just like president Truman. The act can be considered as a performance just like dropping two atomic bombs into a country who was already surrendered, as an act of warfare.
Within this concept, it is legal, if you own an art degree, to go inside a museum and vandalise a piece of art, if you can come up with a catchy name for your "performance" just remember to shout out the safe-word "This is a Performance!"