Poor lad.It is possibly significant that both Henry's boys died young as if they'd inherited something from their father.And Mary was sickly too,I believe.
@@simoncullum5019 excuse me…..rubbish. Look at the diet and the fact they had to wear such awful clothes. It’s a wonder Elizabeth lived at all! Henry’s sperm count is to blame. And…..it is the male who denotes the sex of the child.
I adore this new channel. Could you possibly put them into playlist? My Mum would love this channel too and it would be great if we could just put a playlist on and binge watch them all rather than having to exit and look for next one to play 😊
Hi Sarah, what I usually do is create a playlist and add all the videos I want to watch to it, in the order I want to watch them. I’ve got playlists now for everything from household DIY for beginners to Mongolian throat singing 😁
@@richardwilliamtaylor7086 it can also be spelled Katheryn. I forgot the 'e'. I usually spell hers with a 'K' so as not to confuse her with his first wife.
@@BA-gn3qb I think for the time, she was very beautiful. I found her portrait, painted by Hans Holbein the Younger. I downloaded it from Wikipedia, but I don't know if I can include it here. She's definitely a snappy dresser ☺️
Where is the 'painful' part of the boy's death? I'm sure the 'sweating sickness' was not a good way to go, but the title of this offering seems misleading for sensationalism.
There was a rampant epidemic of a disease called the sweating sickness at the time and if I am not mistaken Arthur Tudor(Henry's brother who would have been king hadn't he died)died of it -many other prominent people in Tudor times died of the sweating sickness and modern scientists still don't know what type of disease the sweating sickness was!Don't think it was TB.
It seems as if the male children of Henry were particularly vulnerable to being sickly and to dying young: Prince Henry, son of Catherine of Aragon (born and died 1511), Henry Fitzroy, son of Elizabeth Blount (age 17), and Edward VI, son of Jane Seymour (age 15).
@@umwha that’s not how it works… Rh incompatibility only affects the fetus if mother is negative, father is positive and baby is positive. Also, this only affects second pregnancies and later pregnancies when blood mixes during childbirth on the first pregnancy. Then the mother’s immune system creates antibodies against Rh positive blood and why subsequent pregnancies end in miscarriage.
@Sharee Mitchell it wouldn’t affect the babies if he was Rh negative. He would have to have been Rh positive and the mother would have to be Rh negative for incompatibility.
During this era, people believed that women determined the sex and health of the child they were carrying. Of course, now we know that's not the case, but at that time this belief made the lives of women Hell if they didn't deliver a male heir.
@@proudblack9453 oh dear, my point was it's actually the sex cells contributed by the male that determines the sex of the baby, and there are many medical issues that can occur with the fetus over which the mother has no control. In no way did I insinuate that a mother's behavior has no effect on the child.
@@RowanWarren78 I know. I just wanted to see how clever you thought you were because you know 10th grade biology. But apparently 10th grade history eludes you, since the number of women actually in a position for this to matter enough for you to give us the femishit speil is exceedingly small.
@@RowanWarren78 but the even dumber thing about you is you make it sound like a male has any conscious choice in it. So your thinking is no more sophisticated than Henry's.
The women in that era used lead based makeup, questionable medicine and didn't bath. I always wondered if this had a hand in high mortality rates with in the upper class?
Also, they were all pretty much alcoholics, as you die could from ingesting bad water. So, wine was a multiple times a day drink for them. Nobody really knew anything about health or drinking alcohol while pregnant, etc back then.
Another great episode, I never knew Henry was going to pair him with his half sister Mary! Just imagine if he had lived and managed to conceive a heir more mad than Henry due to inbreeding. Don't forget an episode on John Dee please
Thanks Saul! Genuinely I believe the plan to marry him off to Mary would have been crazy! But I think it shows the true scope of the plans Henry had for Fitzroy, strengthening his claim to the throne by any means possible.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but regarding Henry VIII’s looks. I see nothing of his father in him, but feel that he looked very similar to his grandfather Edward IV. Edward, had it all. (Henry VIII didn’t). Good looks , charm, royal blood untainted by any commoners. A very good general magnificent physic and to women he was extremely gallant and kind. Of course with the Tudors they never made mention of their Plantagenet blood, there were too many of their nobles who could claim that, this making the. a potential threat to the crown
@@bridgettehutton646 Bridgette Hutton. Why don’t you read my post again before making such an asinine comment. Give YOU a break, do me a favour. If you look at Henry VII and his son, do you see any familia looks there ???? Then look at Edward IV and compare descriptions of both. They were both over 6’ tall with powerful physics, (unusual in medieval time) and highly intelligent. . Kids can look like either of their parents. What I said was he took after his grandfather , i.e. He got his appearance from his mother, Elizabeth, of YORK. rather than any Beaufort, his grandmothers line. There is some degree of inbreeding in the various royal/noble houses. I honestly don’t know why I’m wasting my time with you. Am done with this and yourself.
@@patstocker3658see resemblance? Those are portraits of them my dear. I would have to see a real photo of them in order to answer your question as I was not there to see them personally. Maybe you were there counting your assassinine strokes when they were born. What a "PREKKEH" pon di land. Ha! Ha!!
Many historians believe Mary Boylen's first child Catherine was Henry's daughter but they are not too sure about her son as Mary and her husband were not living in the Royal household or court at the time he was born. Incidentally the present British monarch is descended from Mary's daughter
Fascinating video, but as a RUclips narrator you should practice reading with a more conversational tone. The inflection of your voice is the same on every single sentence. It’s a common thing for people to read like that but it’s also what separates great narrators from mediocre.
I commented something similar on another video of theirs. I don’t know if it’s a speech impediment or not, I did know someone who always talked like thiiiiiis. Every sentence had the same drag on the final woooord.
@@bridgettehutton646 There’s no need to be butthurt Bridgette, it’s a valid critique. Your response isn’t nearly as thought out as the original comment.
May I suggest you do a bit more reading on matters medical…consumption IS tuberculosis. It is not inherited. It is a bacterial infection highly contagious at certain points of the disease. Other than that I found it interesting …thank you…..as also suggested put a bit more inflexion into your voice..
And still does! All those Anglican clerics, in their satin robes & headgear, "sanctifying" the marriage of Charles (Tommy the Tampon) & his homewrecking mistress, reminded me of nothing more than Henry VIII & Anne Boleyn. Sacrilegious!
Really counter intuitive of them to "strengthen the royal blood line" by marrying with the family... This in turn was probably a huge factor in the display of many different genetic disorders.. this can mildly be seen still today with some customs pushing for their children to marry their visions in parts of India. At least I saw a documentary on that and it greatly increased illnesses with these families... But they were really nice people, it's just a unhealthy custom in the culture.
CAN ANYBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHY HENRY FITZROY LOOK SO UNLIKE ANY OF THE OTHER TUDOR'S HE DOES NOT HAVE THE USUAL CLOTHES/HEADGEAR - INFACT WHAT IS THAT ON HIS HEAD AND THE SHIRT LOOKS NOT RIGHT FOR THE AGE?? WHY?
All the reading that Historian Sources say, King Henry VIII did in term's of The Bible, particular Leviticus, King Henry VIII hadn't read 2nd Samuel chapter 11-13. I'm only quoting because King Henry VIII was said to believe in The Bible, granted majority of Royalty and People trusted The Mother Church headed by The Papacy. Then reading passages from Leviticus Henry chooses to 1 Divorce Catherine 2 Break from The Catholic Church quite a turn about since He was dubbed Defender of The Faith. All that happened from Henry VIII Studying Leviticus, it's too bad, He missed 2nd Samuel chapter 11-13.
Interesting information as always but as usual the script is astonishingly badly written , as to be laughable. You desperately need an editor who has a sense of proper, good writing. One thing you could do is go through and cross out every 'rather'. The atrocious scripts really undermine the whole channel. And he didn't 'did die' ..... he 'died' - simple as that. Change 'gutted' to 'devastated'. Gutted is a horrible word.
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Great subject, but couldn’t watch it as the commentator has a really irritating voice, constantly using the wrong emphasis all the way through! Sorry, but found that too annoying to continue watching.
Poor lad.It is possibly significant that both Henry's boys died young as if they'd inherited something from their father.And Mary was sickly too,I believe.
I saw a documentary about the theory that Henry had some medical condition that meant his wives couldn't carry a son
@@simoncullum5019 Most probably a STD, yes
@@simoncullum5019 I might have seen the same one. There were several diseases discussed.
I believe Mary 1. Died of uterine cancer.
@@simoncullum5019 excuse me…..rubbish. Look at the diet and the fact they had to wear such awful clothes. It’s a wonder Elizabeth lived at all! Henry’s sperm count is to blame. And…..it is the male who denotes the sex of the child.
His half brother Edward VI died young too. It’s thought that he died from tuberculosis.
Considering the shakiness of the whole Tudor question, wouldn't have mattered which side of the bed his son was born.
It is actually believed that Bessie Blount served as a Lady in waiting to Anne of Cleves for a time before she became ill and returned home.
Henry actually had another Henry from Catherine of Aragon. But he died in infancy.
I adore this new channel. Could you possibly put them into playlist? My Mum would love this channel too and it would be great if we could just put a playlist on and binge watch them all rather than having to exit and look for next one to play 😊
Hi Sarah, what I usually do is create a playlist and add all the videos I want to watch to it, in the order I want to watch them. I’ve got playlists now for everything from household DIY for beginners to Mongolian throat singing 😁
Jane Seymour was Henry's 3rd wife, not his 5th. His 5th wife was Kathryn Howard.
Catherine
Wonder if she was as beautiful as the actress of the same name.
Never a harsh word spoken of either.
Superb ladies.
@@richardwilliamtaylor7086 it can also be spelled Katheryn. I forgot the 'e'. I usually spell hers with a 'K' so as not to confuse her with his first wife.
@@BA-gn3qb I think for the time, she was very beautiful. I found her portrait, painted by Hans Holbein the Younger. I downloaded it from Wikipedia, but I don't know if I can include it here. She's definitely a snappy dresser ☺️
I like hes gucci headwrap
Whats "hes"
Hahaha!
@@peterchessell28 a typo, ever heard of that?
He probably had cystic fibrosis rather than TB.
Cystic fibrosis is genetic and would have been evident long before he died.
TB was a major killer of all ages well into the 20th century.
Where is the 'painful' part of the boy's death? I'm sure the 'sweating sickness' was not a good way to go, but the title of this offering seems misleading for sensationalism.
Love that these are 10minutes or shorter.
Kimgs dont have "affairs". They have mistresses.
There was a rampant epidemic of a disease called the sweating sickness at the time and if I am not mistaken Arthur Tudor(Henry's brother who would have been king hadn't he died)died of it -many other prominent people in Tudor times died of the sweating sickness and modern scientists still don't know what type of disease the sweating sickness was!Don't think it was TB.
Anne Boleyn survived ‘the Sweat’. Historians do not know what this was: it had different features to other known plagues.
Thank goodness Prince Andrew has self developed the cure .
Ironic that the usurper H7 brought the sweat to England & his innocent son should die from it.
It must have been a very virulent form of the flu?
@@BasedinReality1984 😂😂😂😂😂
Royal inbreeding in many European monarchies, caused many lost potential heirs, which probably why the current monarchies of Europe try to avoid it.
How different history would have been if Fitzroy had been king Henry iX..no bloody Mary era, no Elizabethan era, just so much would have changed.
It seems as if the male children of Henry were particularly vulnerable to being sickly and to dying young: Prince Henry, son of Catherine of Aragon (born and died 1511), Henry Fitzroy, son of Elizabeth Blount (age 17), and Edward VI, son of Jane Seymour (age 15).
Henry may well have a blood disorder which I'd why his children kept dying/being miscarried.
@Sharee Mitchell Interesting. Yes, if he was rh- then his kids would mostly be rejected by the mothers if they were rh+
@@umwha that’s not how it works… Rh incompatibility only affects the fetus if mother is negative, father is positive and baby is positive. Also, this only affects second pregnancies and later pregnancies when blood mixes during childbirth on the first pregnancy. Then the mother’s immune system creates antibodies against Rh positive blood and why subsequent pregnancies end in miscarriage.
@Sharee Mitchell it wouldn’t affect the babies if he was Rh negative. He would have to have been Rh positive and the mother would have to be Rh negative for incompatibility.
Ann Boleyn also miscarried several male fetuses
My captions often relate the king as "Henry the Apes"! Couldn't be much more correct!
Hey,we've finally found The Missing Link!
The two of you should do a Thelma & Louise.
My captions too. 😂 I'm certain our heads would roll.
During this era, people believed that women determined the sex and health of the child they were carrying. Of course, now we know that's not the case, but at that time this belief made the lives of women Hell if they didn't deliver a male heir.
You act like you have nothing to do with it.
@@proudblack9453 oh dear, my point was it's actually the sex cells contributed by the male that determines the sex of the baby, and there are many medical issues that can occur with the fetus over which the mother has no control. In no way did I insinuate that a mother's behavior has no effect on the child.
@@RowanWarren78 I know. I just wanted to see how clever you thought you were because you know 10th grade biology. But apparently 10th grade history eludes you, since the number of women actually in a position for this to matter enough for you to give us the femishit speil is exceedingly small.
@@RowanWarren78 but the even dumber thing about you is you make it sound like a male has any conscious choice in it. So your thinking is no more sophisticated than Henry's.
For all of those complaining about our narrators voice, put the closed caption on. Thanks for this channel, you are doing a great job!
Funny that I've just seen this comment...I was thinking to myself yesterday that I really like the narrator's voice. 😊
He was educated at Sheriff Hutton Castle my home village where Henry’s council of the north sat.
I think..." Fitzroy" means " royal bastard" lol?
It means "son of the king."
'Fitz' + the name of the father was used by illegitimate children.
Ditto: Fitzgerald, Fitzwilliam, Fitzjames etc etc
@@gordonsmith8899 sorry. I meant...you know they only used it for non official kids. The meaning is implied bit clear
@@jennyrose9454
No apologies necessary Jenny, we're all here on a learning curve.
Gerald Fitzpatrick
Patrick Fitzgerald.
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@@TheBatugan77 there was an SNL joke like that I think
The women in that era used lead based makeup, questionable medicine and didn't bath. I always wondered if this had a hand in high mortality rates with in the upper class?
They did bathe much like a sponge bath. Queen Elizabeth I used a tub and bathed often.
Also, they were all pretty much alcoholics, as you die could from ingesting bad water. So, wine was a multiple times a day drink for them. Nobody really knew anything about health or drinking alcohol while pregnant, etc back then.
Henry VIII had syphillis..evertything clear now???
Why are all paintings of Henry Fitzroy show him wearing a headcovering like a scarf?
the head covering was a pearl studded night cap given to him by anne boleyn
Another great episode, I never knew Henry was going to pair him with his half sister Mary! Just imagine if he had lived and managed to conceive a heir more mad than Henry due to inbreeding.
Don't forget an episode on John Dee please
Thanks Saul! Genuinely I believe the plan to marry him off to Mary would have been crazy! But I think it shows the true scope of the plans Henry had for Fitzroy, strengthening his claim to the throne by any means possible.
John Dee is fascinating! A video on him would be good
when I first read that he was going to do that I was. horrified
I don't believe Henry was mad.. His behaviour changed after a head injury
@Cindy Watson
Isn't it also true that syphilis longterm can lead to brain damage as well? 🤔
I always wondered what Henry thought of Fitzroy and if he treated him any differently because he was illegitimate. Now I know! Thank you!
So sad
Thank you! A fascinating story.
Thanks! :)
Really enjoyed this thanks for sharing x
Its interesting to know how karma existed then as it exists now.
Henry had so much blood on his hands his suffering increased as he aged...
You wouldn't understand the explanation, so why would you even ask?
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but regarding Henry VIII’s looks.
I see nothing of his father in him, but feel that he looked very similar to his grandfather Edward IV. Edward, had it all. (Henry VIII didn’t). Good looks , charm, royal blood untainted by any commoners. A very good general magnificent physic and to women he was extremely gallant and kind. Of course with the Tudors they never made mention of their Plantagenet blood, there were too many of their nobles who could claim that, this making the. a potential threat to the crown
Pat Stocker, are you referring to the inbreeding, incest blood as royal blood?? Give me a break!!!
@@bridgettehutton646 Bridgette Hutton. Why don’t you read my post again before making such an asinine comment. Give YOU a break, do me a favour.
If you look at Henry VII and his son, do you see any familia looks there ???? Then look at Edward IV and compare descriptions of both. They were both over 6’ tall with powerful physics, (unusual in medieval time) and highly intelligent. . Kids can look like either of their parents. What I said was he took after his grandfather , i.e. He got his appearance from his mother, Elizabeth, of YORK. rather than any Beaufort, his grandmothers line. There is some degree of inbreeding in the various royal/noble houses.
I honestly don’t know why I’m wasting my time with you. Am done with this and yourself.
@@patstocker3658see resemblance? Those are portraits of them my dear. I would have to see a real photo of them in order to answer your question as I was not there to see them personally. Maybe you were there counting your assassinine strokes when they were born. What a "PREKKEH" pon di land. Ha! Ha!!
And heeeere we gooooo..!
Did Mary Bolelyn have a son by Henry VIII? I watched a movie that showed that. Was not sure if it was true.
I believe so, but ultimately he was considered her husband's "child".
Many historians believe Mary Boylen's first child Catherine was Henry's daughter but they are not too sure about her son as Mary and her husband were not living in the Royal household or court at the time he was born. Incidentally the present British monarch is descended from Mary's daughter
Fascinating video, but as a RUclips narrator you should practice reading with a more conversational tone. The inflection of your voice is the same on every single sentence. It’s a common thing for people to read like that but it’s also what separates great narrators from mediocre.
Yes. I love your content but the inflections are so distracting. I want to hear more stories, yet I can't until the narration is changed.
I commented something similar on another video of theirs. I don’t know if it’s a speech impediment or not, I did know someone who always talked like thiiiiiis. Every sentence had the same drag on the final woooord.
You know Brit’s can’t read like that lol
Nathan, maybe they should hire you to do the reading so we can criticise you!!! Doubt you would do better!!!
@@bridgettehutton646 There’s no need to be butthurt Bridgette, it’s a valid critique. Your response isn’t nearly as thought out as the original comment.
Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
It was stated by my mother that I am distantly related to King Edward the Confessor.
We all are
Pretty cool that!
Fun fact also, 1 in 3 ppl are descended from Ghenghis Kahns bloodline as he and his ilk did so much rping and pillaging...
DNA proves everything.
With having many mistresses it wasn't a surprise he had a illegitimate son.
Great channel
Love your videos 🥰 thank you 😊
Thanks for your kind words of support Lisa!
He fathered a few sons, they just didn’t survive infancy
Very interesting!
Absolutely fantastic and a real eye opener. Thanks very much.
does that not make him a bastard / a bit like our harry
Fascinating. I had wondered what had happened to him
May I suggest you do a bit more reading on matters medical…consumption IS tuberculosis. It is not inherited. It is a bacterial infection highly contagious at certain points of the disease. Other than that I found it interesting …thank you…..as also suggested put a bit more inflexion into your voice..
Looking forward to this one! :D
Thanks Lou!
Interesting how little regard the head of the Church of England had for the Ten Commandments.
Yes, just such an endlessly fascinating topic of wonder! Unless you are educated and can contemplate something more sophisticated.
At that time Henry was still a faithful Catholic and Defender of the Faith. Then came his change of heart.
And still does! All those Anglican clerics, in their satin robes & headgear, "sanctifying" the marriage of Charles (Tommy the Tampon) &
his homewrecking mistress, reminded me of nothing more than Henry VIII & Anne Boleyn. Sacrilegious!
I notice you woke peenies ignore the atrocities of African Voodoody. Always have.
@@nadezhdawall-rossi2864 my brother married a divorcee and had their marriage blessed in church I take it that in your opinion that was sacrilegious
Really counter intuitive of them to "strengthen the royal blood line" by marrying with the family... This in turn was probably a huge factor in the display of many different genetic disorders.. this can mildly be seen still today with some customs pushing for their children to marry their visions in parts of India. At least I saw a documentary on that and it greatly increased illnesses with these families... But they were really nice people, it's just a unhealthy custom in the culture.
What a crazy time to be anyone in power
HOW
Omg the plot thickens...
If Henry had made him hier history would have een very different?
Why they look like pictures of girls
CAN ANYBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHY HENRY FITZROY LOOK SO UNLIKE ANY OF THE OTHER TUDOR'S HE DOES NOT HAVE THE USUAL CLOTHES/HEADGEAR - INFACT WHAT IS THAT ON HIS HEAD AND THE SHIRT LOOKS NOT RIGHT FOR THE AGE?? WHY?
Ah yes, punish the mistress and illegitimate child for your having an affair 🙄 this time period really did not like women.
Women need to do as they're told.
Oh they liked women they just did not value them.
I just can't get into the monotone voice of the narrator
Interesting!
You mean there was only one? I'm shocked.
Wait....so he did have a son but didn't legitimize him? So all those women died for nothing...
You want to make an omelet, you gotta crack some eggs.
The name is pronounced BLUNT.
Can you just imagine if he had become the king of England?
your speech is distracting the cadence does not flow.. impossible to listen to without being irritated
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When death is fresh you go through stages of deaths.
It's God almighty that chooses his attempt was futile.
When was Royal inbreeding not a thing to do?!
All the reading that Historian Sources say, King Henry VIII did in term's of
The Bible, particular Leviticus, King Henry VIII hadn't read 2nd Samuel chapter 11-13.
I'm only quoting because King Henry VIII was said to believe in The Bible, granted majority of Royalty and People trusted The Mother Church headed by The Papacy.
Then reading passages from Leviticus Henry chooses to 1 Divorce Catherine 2 Break from The Catholic Church quite a turn about since He was dubbed Defender of The Faith.
All that happened from Henry VIII Studying Leviticus, it's too bad, He missed 2nd Samuel chapter 11-13.
Interesting information as always but as usual the script is astonishingly badly written , as to be laughable. You desperately need an editor who has a sense of proper, good writing. One thing you could do is go through and cross out every 'rather'. The atrocious scripts really undermine the whole channel. And he didn't 'did die' ..... he 'died' - simple as that. Change 'gutted' to 'devastated'. Gutted is a horrible word.
You need to learn to read to comma's and full stops
Stop using robo-voice...
Interesting content, but unnecessarily click-baity title
Wish this commentator could speak English properly.
Your titles are repetitive.
Total rubbish
Dreadful boring commentary. The most unpleasant voice.
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Great subject, but couldn’t watch it as the commentator has a really irritating voice, constantly using the wrong emphasis all the way through! Sorry, but found that too annoying to continue watching.
Please please pronounce stop pronouncing th as f
Not likely since its a regional accent. We all have speech patterns that annoy someone somewhere.