He is holding his own against the verse. Binding vows are not exclusive to him, binding vows gives and it also takes. The ones fighting him can make a binding vow if they choose to. It's fair but People will cope and find excuses tho.
People if sukuna doesn't use binding vows in the finale fight and ends up losing at the end: "Sukuna is such a dumb ass, he had many opportunities to use binding vows to his advantage, such a waste of a cool feature and idae to the jjk power system." Now sukuna when he does make use of binding vows to his advantage and using his intelligence to abuse powers: "Sukuna was such an ass pull geges favourite from the beginning"
I love the fact some people in the comment section just forget that every domain expansion has something called a "Sure Hit effect" which makes your cursed technique hit the target without needing to aim or touch them, so please stop commenting about how sukuna can hit maho with cleave without touching him.
@@alejandroarmas7689 Think of a domain like a program that you can change with different vows or "code". In their fight Gojo and Sukuna did this multiple time with their domain conditions, from their range, to downsizing it and changing their target. You can imbue your domain with different sure hits too, Kenjaku imbued his with anti-gravity CT, Yuta did it with Jacob Ladder in his domain, Yuta also "programmed" his domain so that his sure hit effect won't hit Yuji and only Sukuna. Another good example is with Miwa and kusakabe simple domains, due to being less proficient Miwa is forced to do a vow to help with casting simple domain, she needs to have both feet on the ground at all time while using it, meanwhile Kusakabe can expand his simple domain range much further than usual without needing such vow. Veils are also barrier technique like domain and can be programmed, like in Shibuya where Kenjaku set up multiple veils with the first one only trapping civilians but allowing sorcerers to enter.
@@HeavensGateMF1307_I think Yuji activated Dismantle not Cleave. Whenever Sukuna has used Cleave and spiderweb(a version of Cleave) the slashes originated from his hand instead of being apart like Yuji's.Also it was stated that that was the first time Yuji activated Shirne so he should be using Dismantle (standard slash) first instead of Cleave(advanced slash).
@@Joferna Wrong, Cleave and Spiderweb were the slashes that Sukuna modified.Dismantle was Sukuna's regular slashes and the first ability given to him by his Shrine so the same thing applies to Yuji.Also, using Dismantle or Cleave is the same exact thing as using the Shrine.Its like saying that every time Gojo is activating red and blue he is not using the Limitless Technique which utter nonsense.
Correct, but there’s one thing that was missed. During Malevolent Shrine, both Dismantle and Cleave are active, as they are the sure-hit effect. As both are active, it’s not necessarily based on living/non-living beings, as it targets anything in the range. It is only after both are used that 「Divine Flame:」Open can be used, however the difference is the activity of Domain Expansion, that being when deactive, Open can be used only once. When active, Open can be used again, if previously used, to fit the range of the domain. The range and speed without domain is small, but very damaging and destructive. With domain, the range matches the domain. Of course, every other aspect would be correct. Thank you for your time.
@@mcbuddlenugget57 Yuta>>>> Even without switching bodies, his hax is simply too overwhelming, Yuji can't touch him. And lets say he somehow IS losing, he just has to switch bodies
For the people saying sukunas domain he is not touching them so how is he using cleave he is not touching them but being in his domain counts as him touching him
Lemme break it down Dismantle - Long range attack and it's power is directly related to your cursed output (Greater CE Output makes it stronger in a general sense) by output I mean like total amount and control of it Cleave - the simplest one because Sukuna releases it with a normalized amount of toughness so it shreds most 1st to special grades like they're in a blender (unless your gojo with some buff ah defence) in which he can increase the power output by using more energy Finally (not doing domain) Fuga - a technique only available when fighting more than 1 opponent or when enough cleave and dismantles are fired which heat the "furnace" that then as you seen in Shibuya it's a nuke and it doesn't harm sukuna (I'm not sure how or why like even gojo got damage from the final hollow purple idk what makes Sukunas so different but eh maybe Gégé will explain more goddamn it
@@x1q232 in the manga they explain a binding vow in place for his fire arrow which is how I wrote it but yeah in chapter 259 and 260 we get the really only explanation for fire arrow
Elaborating more on “fuga” (Kamino/Furnace), outside of a domain, Sukuna is only able to use it on a singular target due to a binding vow he has placed and that is because his fire is actually quite slow. However, within a domain expansion, the binding vow is no longer needed. Anything within Sukuna’s domain will be sliced up and turned into cursed energy that Sukuna uses to ignite the furnace. Then once his furnace is fired, it creates a chain reaction (because of whatever was sliced up was turned into “fuel”) and that is where the nuke comes in. As Sukuna uses the furnace within his domain, all life is exterminated.
Ngl Dismantle and Cleave sound like a Binding Vow This attack will reach but not enough power to kill a Grade 1st or Special Grade Sorcerer But if this attack is used on an enemy I'm on contact with, the power of the slash can be adjusted, in exchange I can only do this in contact with the target
It is I think sukuna inherently only has 2 abilities which is fire or furnace and slices he uses binding vows alot on his moveset to make it op in chapter 259 he put a binding view on his fire arrow so that he can only use it in his domain then it massively increased the damage
@@The_Biggest_Hater.well he did say that he can only attack one person with the flame but within the domain expansion he can attack multiple people with the flame
Makes sense. When Yuji awakened his own shrine technique, he got cleave as default move, so maybe dismantle was made via binding vow. Sacrifice the scaling damage of cleave in exchange for range.
@@The_Biggest_Hater.the binding vow on furnace was something he already made way before the shinjuku showdown, we saw it's effects when he used furnace on Jogo and Mahoraga. The vow basically boils down to "without domain expansion, furnace is limited to one target at a time; with domain expansion, furnace is an AOE attack the size of the domain". When he used it on Jogo, Jogo was the only one affected since malevolent shrine wasn't used, but against Mahoraga, everything in the domain got incinerated.
Yeah this guy was incorrect when he said Dismantle had a fixed power level. Sukuna can and has clearly increased his CE outputted during the attack, resulting in stronger slashes
I love the fact everyone just fucking forgets domain expansions have something called "Sure Hit Attacks" which makes everything hit all the time without needing to aim or touch the fucking target.
@_Justitia before the domain expansion in the beginning of the fight, dismantle didn't cut mahoraga but when sukuna attack from range(dismantle) the attack cut mahoraga limps. So that mean the video saying dismantle damage is fixed is a wrong statement.
@raco5411 im pretty sure this was shown later to be Mahoraha adapting to dismantle in a way where he could use dismantle against Sukuna by using the limbs that are cut off as projectiles, instead of not being fully cut and unable to hit sukuna back in any way
A simple explanation: cleave is used to dissect, divide or cut something in half while dismantle is used to cut something or someone into millions of pieces
I'm pretty sure it was already explained that cleave was for things with cursed energy and dismantle for things without cursed energy. i dont think he needs to touch anything to use any of his techniques. Touching them just makes it impossible to dodge. Shrine doesnt specify any technique for any target either. It uses both attacks on everything in its range indiscriminately essentially achieving the same effect.
He needs to touch, yes is never said that but you can see, Sukuna almost never miss his cuts so why not use Cleaver? He could kill a lot of people easily with he used cleave. Other thing is the world cut Dismantle, if the cleaover could be throw as well why say that the attack is specific dismantle?
Not exactly, that's only the case for the domain, dismantle is a fixed slash that Sukuna can spam as much as he wants, while cleave is one large attack that can't fully be spammed as willy nilly as dismantle, but it has way more potency due to it being able to adjust its strength. However cleave can be adjusted in different shapes and formations as well.
I think cleave has cursed energy inbued in it and dismantle is like something without cursed energy inbued in it so, based on my observation, dismantle technique against mahoraga as it was more fully takes that objective on making mahoraga not adapting to more of his cleave's cursed energy, so basically dismantle is although ranged, touch or close combat, same as cleave as well since it's the same as dismantle ranged, close combat and touch.
Dismantle isn't required hand motion or movement he usually does it cuz he want to In Shibuya arc we literally see he able to use dismantle without hand move In Shinjuku fight it even confirmed that he does require hand move to use dismantle
@@seanandre4432 no sukuna used a binding vow to have a guaranteed hit on gojo with the slash that cuts the world the binding vow made it so he can only use it with handsigns after having that guaranteed hit
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@@averagehuman-gf3qcNope World cutting slash are dismantle Since how world cutting slash work is it extended range version of dismantle that able to cut through space itself So reality cutting cleave is just misunderstood
to sum it up with videogame analogy, they're the same skill, one is tap and the other is held tap - dismantle, the target can block it held - cleave, the target is cooked no matter blocked or not
@@K0nam3Two The world cutting dismantle is simply put, a boosted dismantle, he needs to chant, the dismantles are larger, and therefore, definitely uses more CE, but since he has a lot, I doesn't make much of a difference. The fact that the dismantle cuts the world its just because he boosted his technique, not that it's a "sub-capacity", he can't use world cutting dismantle without chanting or charging it up.
@@frandreemur6005 You misunderstand me, my point is that the technique is different from the dismantle a maximum is just the same technique but with large a mounts of CE but the technique still the same. World Slash is different from dismantle, dismantle don't have target it are just throw, the world slash target the space and cut through it.
Crazy take on Scizor imo, you do have to build around it and there are for sure better options, but I've been having a lot of success with it (actually climbing ladder) and it's actually been doing things and winning games
Challenge: Name an anime with a greater density of fights than this one. The sheer amount of fades getting ran per minute has to be some kind of record.
Cleave doesn’t need direct contact and if it did that means Sukuna was hitting Mahoraga from a distance with dismantle which doesn’t make sense either if the technique is for inanimate objects only
The rule of dismantle being used for inanimate objects only applies to his domain, as the slashes become automatic (it's basically a system where the weaker slash, dismantle, is used to destroy weaker things, while Cleave, the stronger slash, is used for stronger things, like people or curses). Sukuna even says dismantle when he slashes mahoraga.
He was using dismantle against mahoraga. Dismantle isn't only for objects it's just that he has dismantle aim for objects in his domain since objects are weak so dismantle is enough but dismantle is also good on creatures and cleave does require direct contact for use and youl see that every time he uses cleave he's touching the target except for net cleave (also know as spider web cleave) since that involves touching the ground to trigger an effect on the environment rather than a target
Well, Dismantle CAN be augmented in power. But the thing is that the more durable the target is, the more you'd have to increase the output (Yuji tanked Sukuna's Dismantles because Sukuna didn't have enough output). Also, its difficult to judge the durability of the target just by seeing it (Sukuna didn't one-tap Ishigoori), so you'd have to guess a lot. Cleave, on the other hand, is fixed to fit the durability, ensuring a slash. I guess it should cost more CE than base Dismantle, but for high-resistance targets it would end up being much more cost-effective and lethal.
Wrong,Cleave requires physical contact.Whenever Sukuna activated Cleave he always made physical contact and slashes started from his hand, multiplied and spread further.
@@user-mp8rn3tg6t zoro is basically a worse version of toji, a better swordman maybe but nowhere near his physical feats assuming he was in jjk there would be no haki either
In 257 we see Yuji seemingly use Shrine where scissors are visible on the object (dismantle). It's possibly that the original shrine has marks on the attacks aswell like a scissor or a knive but Sukuna made a binding vow to make them invisible. This also would explain his rather shocked reaction when he finds out that Mahoraga can see his attacks.
Same technique, but different interpretation based on person personality/heart and era/reality in which one lives. The 'new techniques' are disregarded by 3 big families, because they are totally unknown interpretations of techniques, not 'traditional one' but they use current time possibilities/motives
Something I noticed between it I think cleave is just one slash while dismantle is just a barrage of slashes (fiund this on some game in roblox so I thought that was the difference
Tho cleave was for anything CE(Ofcourse living beings too) and dismantle for anything without CE (inanimate) but wasn’t aware of the whole touch of a thing. Thanks. Reminds me of obito’s MS. the one he has can turn him intangible and he needs to be close to someone to teleport them while Kakashi’s can’t turn him intangible but he can teleport something at a distance
If there is someone in gojo and sukuna level but exchange his powers with heavenly pact which give him so much physical abilities Even more than both of them together exist, could he resist the cleave?
Cleave adjusts itself on the target's durability but there is a limit to what it can destroy in just one cut. More specifically, if the target's durability (wether it's enhanced with CE or not) exceeds Sukuna's CE output, Cleave won't be as effective
@@mysteriousman5151 I feel like it's a bit more complicated than that, but I just want to let you know that this is my personal interpretation. First of all, there's a difference between a character's reserve and their output. Ryu, for example may not have a big Cursed Energy Reserve (or at least not as big as Yuta) but he has a greater output because he can utilise greater amounts at a time. As for Sukuna, we actually have already seen characters matching his output. First it was Itadori who withstood cleave due to Megumi's body reducing Sukuna's output, and then Gojo during their fight. So, in short, since Sukuna's output is high but not infinite, a character CAN reduce the damage they take from cleave as long as they are capable of forcing it to reach the upward limit of Sukuna's output, whether by their durability alone or by defending with Cursed Energy
The difference is that cleave scales with the opponnents power. It makes significant but fixed damage no matter how strong the enemy is. So its technically more powerfull against stronger people but less powerfull against weaker people because its the same damage every time. Dissmantle on the other hand can be manually adjusted and fired from a long distance. Meaning against strong opponents dissmantle generally is less usefull than Cleave. On the other hand Dissmantle technically has no limit in its power. Its bound to sukunas output and not on the opponents strengh. Meaning that while cleave makes more damage most of the time his strongest dissmantle will always be the most powerfull technique he has to offer. Hence the world cutting slash.
Something that wasn't mentioned, probably because it's fairly unknown is that Cleave also gets stronger the greater the gap between his own current CE and his targets CE is.
Sukuna king of binding vows
Fax bro used more than 10 vows
He is holding his own against the verse. Binding vows are not exclusive to him, binding vows gives and it also takes. The ones fighting him can make a binding vow if they choose to. It's fair but People will cope and find excuses tho.
@@michaelsky251 i know, it's just that sukuna constantly used it more than anyone else. Thus earning him the troll title king of binding vows
People if sukuna doesn't use binding vows in the finale fight and ends up losing at the end: "Sukuna is such a dumb ass, he had many opportunities to use binding vows to his advantage, such a waste of a cool feature and idae to the jjk power system."
Now sukuna when he does make use of binding vows to his advantage and using his intelligence to abuse powers: "Sukuna was such an ass pull geges favourite from the beginning"
@@RicardoM1l0s he has taken damage more than anyone in the verse. From all kinds of curses techniques. Lol it's funny how y'all don't make sense
Domain expansion: malevolent Blender
Malevolent Kitchen
He was making a joke
malevolent mixing mode
@@Darksun_plays true
Malevolent backshots
I love the fact some people in the comment section just forget that every domain expansion has something called a "Sure Hit effect" which makes your cursed technique hit the target without needing to aim or touch them, so please stop commenting about how sukuna can hit maho with cleave without touching him.
So if you're fast enough and Sukuna can't open DE no more - he'll only be throwing Dismantles at you?
Not every domain has a sure hit affect as that’s really up to the user but I get what you mean
@@coolpiratefox8251
wrong!
Not every domain has a lethal sure hit but every domain has a sure hit.
thank me later 😊
@@oz9220 oh, thanks
@@coolpiratefox8251 np
Jjk domain expansions are like coding ⚙️
Huh? How?
@@alejandroarmas7689 Think of a domain like a program that you can change with different vows or "code". In their fight Gojo and Sukuna did this multiple time with their domain conditions, from their range, to downsizing it and changing their target. You can imbue your domain with different sure hits too, Kenjaku imbued his with anti-gravity CT, Yuta did it with Jacob Ladder in his domain, Yuta also "programmed" his domain so that his sure hit effect won't hit Yuji and only Sukuna.
Another good example is with Miwa and kusakabe simple domains, due to being less proficient Miwa is forced to do a vow to help with casting simple domain, she needs to have both feet on the ground at all time while using it, meanwhile Kusakabe can expand his simple domain range much further than usual without needing such vow.
Veils are also barrier technique like domain and can be programmed, like in Shibuya where Kenjaku set up multiple veils with the first one only trapping civilians but allowing sorcerers to enter.
@alejandroarmas76b
89 because its Said like object a Do this and object b Do this
@@alejandroarmas7689 UR FUNNY NOT KNOWING
@@Austinfdphe never tried to be funny?
Makes sense.... Dismantle from a distance.. cleave unto...
Woah..
Huh
@@saltycolliseum you can dismantle without physical touch.... You have to touch someone to cleave onto them
@@She_fw_Tez I know but the other guy said woah so I thought there was a hidden meaning
broski talking like he's fighting Sukuna himself 😭😭😭
“Yo Sukuna, we need a blender-“
*chopped into bits from Malevolent Blender*
Finally someone who perfectly explained it and didn't fall for any misconceptions.
Ah yes my heian era technique ✨ binding vow ✨
Binding vow #57...
mfs when the jujutsu master uses jujutsu
Also in Sukuna vs Mahoraga in the manga
It says that’s Dismantle is an accurate slash
And Cleave is an inaccurate slash but more powerful
Fax
so that technically means dismantle is a knife and cleave is a butcher knife
That’s also why when yuji used cleave on the pillar, it show scissor’s cutting an outline on the piller.
Ig
@@HeavensGateMF1307_I think Yuji activated Dismantle not Cleave. Whenever Sukuna has used Cleave and spiderweb(a version of Cleave) the slashes originated from his hand instead of being apart like Yuji's.Also it was stated that that was the first time Yuji activated Shirne so he should be using Dismantle (standard slash) first instead of Cleave(advanced slash).
@@ahmednizamani1746 yuji used shrine. not cleave or dismantle. those r applications of shrine that sukuna came up with himself.
@@Joferna Wrong, Cleave and Spiderweb were the slashes that Sukuna modified.Dismantle was Sukuna's regular slashes and the first ability given to him by his Shrine so the same thing applies to Yuji.Also, using Dismantle or Cleave is the same exact thing as using the Shrine.Its like saying that every time Gojo is activating red and blue he is not using the Limitless Technique which utter nonsense.
Correct, but there’s one thing that was missed. During Malevolent Shrine, both Dismantle and Cleave are active, as they are the sure-hit effect. As both are active, it’s not necessarily based on living/non-living beings, as it targets anything in the range. It is only after both are used that 「Divine Flame:」Open can be used, however the difference is the activity of Domain Expansion, that being when deactive, Open can be used only once. When active, Open can be used again, if previously used, to fit the range of the domain. The range and speed without domain is small, but very damaging and destructive. With domain, the range matches the domain.
Of course, every other aspect would be correct. Thank you for your time.
Yuta used cleve🥶
AND
Yuji used dismantle 🥶
Yuji in fact, did not use dismantle.
@@violenced6710chapter 257:
@@violenced6710 bro can’t handle the fact that yuji can destroy yuta
@@mcbuddlenugget57Yuji can't destroy Yuta but yes bro can't handle that Yuji can use Dismentle
@@mcbuddlenugget57 Yuta>>>> Even without switching bodies, his hax is simply too overwhelming, Yuji can't touch him. And lets say he somehow IS losing, he just has to switch bodies
So I'll break it down
*Start's dancing*😂
Bro has more binding vows than i have shoes 💀.
Let's break it down: danced
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For the people saying sukunas domain he is not touching them so how is he using cleave he is not touching them but being in his domain counts as him touching him
In a Domain, All CTs gain a Sure Hit Effect unless something weird happens
@@Moniker08yup
@@Moniker08 like higaruma when he used it on sukuna
Like Mahito's domain
No one commented that
Lemme break it down
Dismantle - Long range attack and it's power is directly related to your cursed output (Greater CE Output makes it stronger in a general sense) by output I mean like total amount and control of it
Cleave - the simplest one because Sukuna releases it with a normalized amount of toughness so it shreds most 1st to special grades like they're in a blender (unless your gojo with some buff ah defence) in which he can increase the power output by using more energy
Finally (not doing domain)
Fuga - a technique only available when fighting more than 1 opponent or when enough cleave and dismantles are fired which heat the "furnace" that then as you seen in Shibuya it's a nuke and it doesn't harm sukuna (I'm not sure how or why like even gojo got damage from the final hollow purple idk what makes Sukunas so different but eh maybe Gégé will explain more goddamn it
@@x1q232 they did in the manga recently
@@x1q232 in the manga they explain a binding vow in place for his fire arrow which is how I wrote it but yeah in chapter 259 and 260 we get the really only explanation for fire arrow
Elaborating more on “fuga” (Kamino/Furnace), outside of a domain, Sukuna is only able to use it on a singular target due to a binding vow he has placed and that is because his fire is actually quite slow. However, within a domain expansion, the binding vow is no longer needed. Anything within Sukuna’s domain will be sliced up and turned into cursed energy that Sukuna uses to ignite the furnace. Then once his furnace is fired, it creates a chain reaction (because of whatever was sliced up was turned into “fuel”) and that is where the nuke comes in. As Sukuna uses the furnace within his domain, all life is exterminated.
@@violenced6710 i referenced this when I said it can only be used when fighting more than one person
@@reaperreap961 No, in your comment someone can misunderstand and think fuga can be used in multiples targets without domain
That kinda makes sense since sukuna did use dismantle on gojo in their fight in the manga
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@Skullxzxz I will dislike because of this, you ain't got nun to be happy about lil bro don't you know ww3 is coming up
@@asdfj.4293 who asked you cry ww3 isn't even guranteed to happen
@@asdfj.4293 lil bro cope harder
the fuck happened here
Let sukuna cook in his domain malevolent kitchen
Finally i can understand it😭
Bro last photo Like toji's reencarnete version
And thus he could cook the Shibuya folks gracefully
Master Chef Sukuna, The Cooking One
The video we never asked for but we need
Ngl Dismantle and Cleave sound like a Binding Vow
This attack will reach but not enough power to kill a Grade 1st or Special Grade Sorcerer
But if this attack is used on an enemy I'm on contact with, the power of the slash can be adjusted, in exchange I can only do this in contact with the target
It is I think sukuna inherently only has 2 abilities which is fire or furnace and slices he uses binding vows alot on his moveset to make it op in chapter 259 he put a binding view on his fire arrow so that he can only use it in his domain then it massively increased the damage
@@The_Biggest_Hater.well he did say that he can only attack one person with the flame but within the domain expansion he can attack multiple people with the flame
@xiongbreeze yeah he changed the binding vows to increase its age damage opposed to its single target destruction damage he used on mahoraga and jogo
Makes sense. When Yuji awakened his own shrine technique, he got cleave as default move, so maybe dismantle was made via binding vow. Sacrifice the scaling damage of cleave in exchange for range.
@@The_Biggest_Hater.the binding vow on furnace was something he already made way before the shinjuku showdown, we saw it's effects when he used furnace on Jogo and Mahoraga.
The vow basically boils down to "without domain expansion, furnace is limited to one target at a time; with domain expansion, furnace is an AOE attack the size of the domain". When he used it on Jogo, Jogo was the only one affected since malevolent shrine wasn't used, but against Mahoraga, everything in the domain got incinerated.
Love seeing jjk videos that dont spread misinformation.
In Jjk s2 ep 17 sukana was cutting mahoraga from a distance even though in the beginning of the fight dismantle didn't cut mahoraga
quit complaining nga
Yeah this guy was incorrect when he said Dismantle had a fixed power level. Sukuna can and has clearly increased his CE outputted during the attack, resulting in stronger slashes
I love the fact everyone just fucking forgets domain expansions have something called "Sure Hit Attacks" which makes everything hit all the time without needing to aim or touch the fucking target.
@_Justitia before the domain expansion in the beginning of the fight, dismantle didn't cut mahoraga but when sukuna attack from range(dismantle) the attack cut mahoraga limps. So that mean the video saying dismantle damage is fixed is a wrong statement.
@raco5411 im pretty sure this was shown later to be Mahoraha adapting to dismantle in a way where he could use dismantle against Sukuna by using the limbs that are cut off as projectiles, instead of not being fully cut and unable to hit sukuna back in any way
Falling star dismantle:🗿
Theoretically you could just stack dozens or hundreds of dismantles to make it more powerful overall.
My dumb ahh fr thought cleave was a horizontal slash and dismantle was a vertical slash
"It's over Skibidiuna"
"Goon Proud You have rizz"
In JJS terms
Cleave is R
Dismantle is m1s and 1
Ohhhh
bro thats actually a really good explanation if you know jjs moves wth
A simple explanation: cleave is used to dissect, divide or cut something in half while dismantle is used to cut something or someone into millions of pieces
Not necessarily?
reverse
Yuji don’t got cleave and dismantle he got scissors and disassemble 😭💀
I'm pretty sure it was already explained that cleave was for things with cursed energy and dismantle for things without cursed energy. i dont think he needs to touch anything to use any of his techniques. Touching them just makes it impossible to dodge. Shrine doesnt specify any technique for any target either. It uses both attacks on everything in its range indiscriminately essentially achieving the same effect.
He needs to touch, yes is never said that but you can see, Sukuna almost never miss his cuts so why not use Cleaver? He could kill a lot of people easily with he used cleave. Other thing is the world cut Dismantle, if the cleaover could be throw as well why say that the attack is specific dismantle?
Not exactly, that's only the case for the domain, dismantle is a fixed slash that Sukuna can spam as much as he wants, while cleave is one large attack that can't fully be spammed as willy nilly as dismantle, but it has way more potency due to it being able to adjust its strength. However cleave can be adjusted in different shapes and formations as well.
@K0nam3Two he doesn't though, especially as we see in the Manga, however
I think cleave has cursed energy inbued in it and dismantle is like something without cursed energy inbued in it so, based on my observation, dismantle technique against mahoraga as it was more fully takes that objective on making mahoraga not adapting to more of his cleave's cursed energy, so basically dismantle is although ranged, touch or close combat, same as cleave as well since it's the same as dismantle ranged, close combat and touch.
@@vergilthedarkslayer23 Bruh, dismantle has cursed energy everything related to jujutsu has cursed energy
Cleave is automatic
And dismantle is slashing with hands
Dismantle isn't required hand motion or movement he usually does it cuz he want to
In Shibuya arc we literally see he able to use dismantle without hand move
In Shinjuku fight it even confirmed that he does require hand move to use dismantle
@@tuppiee1752World Cutting Dismantle*
@@tuppiee1752I am pretty sure that was because of binding vow
Sukuna is pretty much only using handsigns for more power or for feints incantations also help with its power
@@seanandre4432 no sukuna used a binding vow to have a guaranteed hit on gojo with the slash that cuts the world the binding vow made it so he can only use it with handsigns after having that guaranteed hit
Small thing wrong about this.
Sukuna didnt decide how the domain would work. Its just always like that
No, sukuna decides which CT to use as a sure hit, but it’s fixed
Jujutsu Kaisen use a magic system, you can change how your magic works you just need to know how
@@K0nam3Twoyeah you can apply whatever sure hit you want if you have more than one ability
I'm sure it was stated that dismantle was for things without cursed energy and cleave was for cursed energy
Read the manga and pay attention to what the dude said
he loves his binding vows if it counts as binding vows
"Ill just cut this shit"
Firsr time sukuna uses hes Brainrot
Simple, One is Projectile and One is Immediate.
Crazy getting the “it’s me” effect on his first run. It’s at 10:16 btw if anyone wants it
The doodoo audio quality makes this video all the more amusing.
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Idk man id say the gaming industry is in a bad state rn and theres increasing levels of degeneracy shown in more popular animes nowadays. So much for this ‘’liberalization’’. I prefer old school anime and gaming they were more down to earth and honest and most importantly they had boundaries. For example they wouldnt charge you 120 or 250 dollar for a half-assed game or there wasnt a nude scene in anime every 2 seconds.
You finally cleared it all up
Bro adjusted his settings
meanwhile Dismentle:
''DRAGON SCALES''
''REPULSION''
''TWIN METEORS''
**WORLD SLASH**
Well there is world dissecting dismantle using the change but there is also reality slicing cleave which uses those as well
@@averagehuman-gf3qcNope
World cutting slash are dismantle
Since how world cutting slash work is it extended range version of dismantle that able to cut through space itself
So reality cutting cleave is just misunderstood
To be more specific, dismantle is for people or objects without cursed energy and cleaves used to hit things with cursed energy
Yes, but that's only within the domain... Outside of it, both dismantle and cleave can be used on elements with and without cursed energy
@@miguelrodriguezgonzalez6396 oh ok, thanks
Dismantle: Ranged
Cleave: touch
Another diff is that dismantle works like a cheese grater and cleave works as a butcher knife
i honestly thought it worked like dismantle=slashes and cleave=big slash
Deadpool: “and my suit healed too”
This is actually awesome
pov: youre looking for the people who said sukuna cant use cleave during a domain without making contact with them
to sum it up with videogame analogy, they're the same skill, one is tap and the other is held
tap - dismantle, the target can block it
held - cleave, the target is cooked no matter blocked or not
"Lets break it down" 💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃
actually, dismantle can get more powerful because of chants and hand signs
That would not considered as normal dismantle anyway that wall be something call world cutting slash
Which is some kind of different technique
@@tuppiee1752 Nuh uh, technically it's a maximum technique since Gojo also used chants to up his technique's output
@@frandreemur6005 By definition is not a maximum cause he didnt created by using large amounts of CE. Is more like a new sub-capacity of his own CT
@@K0nam3Two The world cutting dismantle is simply put, a boosted dismantle, he needs to chant, the dismantles are larger, and therefore, definitely uses more CE, but since he has a lot, I doesn't make much of a difference. The fact that the dismantle cuts the world its just because he boosted his technique, not that it's a "sub-capacity", he can't use world cutting dismantle without chanting or charging it up.
@@frandreemur6005 You misunderstand me, my point is that the technique is different from the dismantle a maximum is just the same technique but with large a mounts of CE but the technique still the same. World Slash is different from dismantle, dismantle don't have target it are just throw, the world slash target the space and cut through it.
He probably has a binding vow that increases his power based on the amount of women and children he violates
Sukuna intelligent is different
bro sukana keeps reminding me of grannys sowing cloth
Turns out Sukuna isn't strong in terms of raw power; that was Gojo. Sukuna is stronger because he's the smartest binding vow merchant around.
"Domain Expansion: Malevolent Plot."
Ryoiki Tenkai!!
I think it’s more along the lines of accuracy cleave being single highly precise slashes and dismantle being a barage of unhindered slashes
Crazy take on Scizor imo, you do have to build around it and there are for sure better options, but I've been having a lot of success with it (actually climbing ladder) and it's actually been doing things and winning games
Lets break it down🕺
This 🥷🏾is op 😭 what a goat
Inanimate objects means things without cursed energy that includes maki and toji
Challenge: Name an anime with a greater density of fights than this one. The sheer amount of fades getting ran per minute has to be some kind of record.
I heard somewhere that Cleave is possibly the reversal technique of Dismantle. Not completely sure, somebody could explain or back this up.
Cleave can also be used on inanimate objects like sukuna did on the ground and dismantle can also be used on any thing that has cursed energy
Dismantle isnt real it can't hurt you.
Dismantle that bisect the world: Gojo halfed, Kashimo Waffled, Yuta halfed.
Cleave: long ranged switchblade
Dismantle: Meat Dicer
One uses curse energy and the other one doesn’t
Both uses curse energy.
Dismantle targets things with or without Cursed energy while Cleave only targets things with cursed energy.
Nice
The dismantle and cleave are right but except the adjust of strength
Cleave doesn’t need direct contact and if it did that means Sukuna was hitting Mahoraga from a distance with dismantle which doesn’t make sense either if the technique is for inanimate objects only
The rule of dismantle being used for inanimate objects only applies to his domain, as the slashes become automatic (it's basically a system where the weaker slash, dismantle, is used to destroy weaker things, while Cleave, the stronger slash, is used for stronger things, like people or curses). Sukuna even says dismantle when he slashes mahoraga.
Watch the short again, cleave and dismantle are different in and out side of his domain.
And his domain has a sure hit effect
The cleave and dismantle directly used by Sukuna are different from those used by the domain, please go reread the manga
He was using dismantle against mahoraga. Dismantle isn't only for objects it's just that he has dismantle aim for objects in his domain since objects are weak so dismantle is enough but dismantle is also good on creatures and cleave does require direct contact for use and youl see that every time he uses cleave he's touching the target except for net cleave (also know as spider web cleave) since that involves touching the ground to trigger an effect on the environment rather than a target
god thank you, the only answer i ever get for the difference was the inanimate and animate objects difference😭
Well, Dismantle CAN be augmented in power. But the thing is that the more durable the target is, the more you'd have to increase the output (Yuji tanked Sukuna's Dismantles because Sukuna didn't have enough output). Also, its difficult to judge the durability of the target just by seeing it (Sukuna didn't one-tap Ishigoori), so you'd have to guess a lot.
Cleave, on the other hand, is fixed to fit the durability, ensuring a slash. I guess it should cost more CE than base Dismantle, but for high-resistance targets it would end up being much more cost-effective and lethal.
Which means malevolent shrine and malevolent kitchen are two different types of domain expansions
Wicked work
Dismantle is a slash,
Cleave is a chop
Domain expansion: Proving im a total nerd
Cleave doesnt require contact, contact just makes it easier for both slashes to work.
Wrong,Cleave requires physical contact.Whenever Sukuna activated Cleave he always made physical contact and slashes started from his hand, multiplied and spread further.
Bro its just cutting 💀💀💀
So your saying limitless is just colours 💀🙏
😂😂@@Demonboy_45422
Cutting that scales to the durability of what it hits.
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Cleave: Melle
Dismantle: Range
Ok got it
Zoro in jjk would be broken. Especially with cleave and dismantle
What are you talking bout, thats not how it works
what bro
well he ain't wrong Zoro would solo almost the entire the verse infinity would be a problem while the rest won't be that difficult for him
Bro wants to compare Zoro to JJK verse
@@user-mp8rn3tg6t zoro is basically a worse version of toji, a better swordman maybe but nowhere near his physical feats assuming he was in jjk there would be no haki either
In 257 we see Yuji seemingly use Shrine where scissors are visible on the object (dismantle). It's possibly that the original shrine has marks on the attacks aswell like a scissor or a knive but Sukuna made a binding vow to make them invisible. This also would explain his rather shocked reaction when he finds out that Mahoraga can see his attacks.
Everyone good enough in manipulating CE can see it
Same technique, but different interpretation based on person personality/heart and era/reality in which one lives. The 'new techniques' are disregarded by 3 big families, because they are totally unknown interpretations of techniques, not 'traditional one' but they use current time possibilities/motives
Something I noticed between it I think cleave is just one slash while dismantle is just a barrage of slashes (fiund this on some game in roblox so I thought that was the difference
What about severance?
Tho cleave was for anything CE(Ofcourse living beings too) and dismantle for anything without CE (inanimate) but wasn’t aware of the whole touch of a thing. Thanks. Reminds me of obito’s MS. the one he has can turn him intangible and he needs to be close to someone to teleport them while Kakashi’s can’t turn him intangible but he can teleport something at a distance
I thought it's different in the way the attacks is delivered lol.
Like dismantle is multiple slash at once and cleave is one big slash.
King of Raga And cuts
If there is someone in gojo and sukuna level but exchange his powers with heavenly pact which give him so much physical abilities Even more than both of them together exist, could he resist the cleave?
Cleave adjusts itself on the target's durability but there is a limit to what it can destroy in just one cut. More specifically, if the target's durability (wether it's enhanced with CE or not) exceeds Sukuna's CE output, Cleave won't be as effective
@@Connor_Cildaig but nobody exceeds his output, The closest is Yuta who has like 10 fingers worth of CE
@@mysteriousman5151
I feel like it's a bit more complicated than that, but I just want to let you know that this is my personal interpretation. First of all, there's a difference between a character's reserve and their output. Ryu, for example may not have a big Cursed Energy Reserve (or at least not as big as Yuta) but he has a greater output because he can utilise greater amounts at a time.
As for Sukuna, we actually have already seen characters matching his output. First it was Itadori who withstood cleave due to Megumi's body reducing Sukuna's output, and then Gojo during their fight. So, in short, since Sukuna's output is high but not infinite, a character CAN reduce the damage they take from cleave as long as they are capable of forcing it to reach the upward limit of Sukuna's output, whether by their durability alone or by defending with Cursed Energy
@@Connor_Cildaig Yeah I agree with mostly everything you said, For whatever reason I wasn't really thinking of output, Thank you
@@mysteriousman5151 You're welcome
hes js that goated
sukuna:nah id binding
Still cut me in half
Now I know dismantle is weaker than cleave I thought dismantle was better
The difference is that cleave scales with the opponnents power. It makes significant but fixed damage no matter how strong the enemy is. So its technically more powerfull against stronger people but less powerfull against weaker people because its the same damage every time. Dissmantle on the other hand can be manually adjusted and fired from a long distance. Meaning against strong opponents dissmantle generally is less usefull than Cleave.
On the other hand Dissmantle technically has no limit in its power. Its bound to sukunas output and not on the opponents strengh. Meaning that while cleave makes more damage most of the time his strongest dissmantle will always be the most powerfull technique he has to offer. Hence the world cutting slash.
Something that wasn't mentioned, probably because it's fairly unknown is that Cleave also gets stronger the greater the gap between his own current CE and his targets CE is.