We Test The $99/mo Tesla FSD (Supervised) Capabilities On FL City Streets & Are Super Impressed!
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- In this video, travel with Kathy and Dave as they drive 2from Marco Island Florida to the Waterside Mall in Naples Florida. While Dave has made numerous videos in the past making fun of FSD, and still cautions not to overly rely on this new tech, he does see the light and hint of things to come. Call him impressed...
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I did an FSD drive last month during the free trial where I had to exit a 4-lane road onto a 2-way service road. After exiting, the service road had a 4-way intersection but a 3-way stop with me having the right-of-way, and I had a left had turn on the service road, meaning an 180 degree turn from my highway direction. My Model Y hesitated at the 4-way 3-stop sign service road intersection, and I just thought it was having trouble. I nearly goosed it to go, but then I saw a woman pushing a baby carriage crossing the service road to the left. In other words, FSD saw the woman with baby carriage before me, and was stopping. Excellent!.
Based on vids I've seen, that's a common thing. A famous example was, not even FSD but I think AP, big intersection multiple lanes all directions, light turns green Tesla start to go normally then inexplicably abruptly breaks from just 5 or 10mph, the driver is like: "WTF?"--then the car to his right which kept going got T-boned by a car running the light at maybe 50mph. Serious life threatening accident avoided.
I was an avid watcher of Kyle's road trip videos, and I really miss them now that he's doing other things. So here I am over here getting some of those same vibes. Really enjoy the two of you together. So entertaining and fun.
You had “Auto Speed” set to “on”. If you turn this off you can then select the other classic speed offset options. What I do is leave it on Auto but I disengage in slow speed zones if I feel uncomfortable, and when you turn it back on (right away) it will stay at the lower speed.
I'm thankful that you guys are so clear about having hands on wheel and being prepared to take over. Some big channels have been using "FSD cheat devices" for their drives so they mislead other users into thinking it truly is self driving when it shouldn't be.
'Some big channels' ?
My FSD trial ended today and yes I am subscribed. I got my Highland for FSD and I love it. Is it a better driver? No, but it is safer and more efficient. I did my own mini 0% challenge today to stress my new home charging and I had to keep turning off FSD because my trip planner kept adding % it is so efficient. I use it for 95% of my drives. I can't wait for 12.4.
Thanks for previewing FSD. I’ve been toying with the idea of trying it myself but have not made the leap. Think this made up my mind, thanks! Keep up the great content!
Guys this was really good. Probably one of the best. i don't know why, i think your reactions seems more genuine than some people that would do that to hype and pump their channel/stocks
12.3.6 is game changing. All the traveling you do cross country it’s a no brainer.
Thanks for sharing your stories. This will truly save lives. I always do my best to pay attention but there was one time I did fall asleep and fsd saved me.
I subscribed to FSD for my 2024 MYRWD based on your reviews. We have already paid for the Tesla hardware so the monthly subscription is minimal and can be cancelled. I think if we view it as an assistant driver FSD is well worth the money from a safety standpoint. I was at a red light yesterday and when the light turned green a pedestrian ran in front of my car and FSD handled it perfectly. Thanks for your great reviews.
I love 12.3.6. Can't imagine what 12.4 will bring.
This was so good!! Yall are the best!!! Plz hurry and get her video uploaded im pumped. Hope Kyle is ok. Been MIA a long time!
On my last trip on the interstate using autodrive I too fell asleep. No problem. Tesla woke me up. What a Godsend.
Sleepy driving about the most dangerous thing we ever do, I know I've had to struggle with that many times, never had a recognized close call but drifting around in the lane is bad enough. Seems every time I'm on I-5 in Cali at night I come across semi truck drivers that are scary to pass as they bounce off the lines obviously dozing.
This video has convinced me to rent FSD for a month and try it out. My Tesla hasn’t been driven in over 5 months and wonder if their one month free trial is still available. Now, we are anxious to see the video with Kathy using FSD. I had the pleasure of meeting this charming lady at a Connecticut EV event hosted by generous Dave.
FSD or not, 9 mph over the speed limit is maximum to avoid a speeding ticket that is very expensive in Florida. In addition, you are penalized with enduring 4 hrs of remedial driver’s education with exams at your expense, online or in a classroom.
You two are great. Best wishes from the UK.
Maybe FSD is thinking, me driver you supervisor 😂
You were doing 11 mph over the speed limit of 25 mph because you have Auto Set Speed turned on - if you turn it off, it will use your setting that sets the max speed to some absolute value over the speed limit or - like in our case - some percentage (we use 10%) over the max speed limit ... so in your 25 mph max speed area, it would max out at just 28 mph, if using the 10% over limit that we set for our FSD setting ... just an FYI!
I find that FSD won’t make lane changes if I just press the turn signal softly. I usually need to press it all the way down
Also takes its time on lane changes. I believe that’s going to be fixed in the upcoming 12.4 release.
Glad you are finally experiencing FSD.. key thing to understand is most of your/Kathy’s quibbles are ones of preference, as opposed to being “critical” safety issues. Fact is, FSD in its current form is vastly safer than human drivers, even if sometimes it behaves a little differently than humans might prefer.. also, to Kathy’s concern about pedestrians and bicyclists coming our of your condo complex, I guarantee FSD is safer than humans for those situations
It's not safer than a human driver, there is a safety critical disengagement every 300 miles or so. While supervised the combination of FSD and human is safer though.
Dave, I got an aftermarket carbon fiber spoiler on RPMTesla back in 2020 for my M3. I am a gal who knows nothing about car parts, but was able to put it on myself. LOL Looks just like Tesla's but was only $100. Still looks nice after 4 years and gives the car a sportier look.
Fascinating video. I your trip mirrors many of my experiences using FSD. This should be mandatory viewing for the Tesla engineers.
Hello David and kathy. I also just got my complemetry FSD on my 22 model 3. Fisrt time I tried it was driving to the Walmart. When it got to the begginnig of the parking lot , it stopped and the steering started doing the same as when you got to the intersection of 41. Funny, It didnt know what to do! I also think that when it makes a right hand turn it get a little close to the curb. But I love it! The 2nd run It drove me to my daughter's house 45 minutes away right to the front door without any intervention. Amazing! Please keep making videos from Marco Island. When I watch feels like I'm there and never left!
You and your wife produce my favorite videos! I do worry that until FSD is a lot more accurate people will be to relaxed and fall asleep.
1) You are getting accustomed to FSD, 2) You are getting older and 3) The Tesla is a very comfortable car. I would suggest that you consider your sleep at the wheel episode as a warning and no more marathon driving sessions.
At 19:30, that "howdy doodie time" you were experiencing with the braking was because you were going through an intersection with a flashing yellow light. It saw a yellow light then started to brake, and it took it a couple of seconds to realize it was flahing yellow to know it was ok to keep going.
Comic Ron White has a routine about getting an actual police report alias of "Tater Salad". Now you must provide your AKA as "Tater Tot".
I'm glad you fell asleep in a Tesla and not another car because the outcome might have been different.
I know for certain the most dangerous *I've ever been* is sleepy behind the wheel.
Once had to be at Reno, NV airport by early morning, was end of finals week, minimal sleep all week. Couldn't stay awake no matter what I did at 3:00 am, kept drifting, scaring self and starting to doze again in seconds. But it was winter, maybe 10 or 20F over the Sierras from Central Valley, Cali, so I turned off the heater, rolled the window half down *and then stayed alert,* very uncomfortable but alert.
Wow Dave, great job on the video editing! Love the video too.
I agree with you that the autopilot likes to stay in the left lane. When i manually put the car back into the right lane (especially on controlled access freeways) the car will change lanes to the left lane with the text that it is avoiding the merge zone (coming to an on ramp) even though there is no traffic trying to merge onto the highway. Then it never goes back to the right lane. I have checked the minimum lane changes and switched to chill mode but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
Again, you are still on the old Autopilot stack on the highway.
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Yesterday, I went to an antique car show, where I showed off my 1993 MB wagon. However, the highlight of the day was when someone drove to the show with a Model Y with the summon feature. The car drove a block and then back with NO DRIVER. I'm 69 years old and NEVER, EVER thought that I'd see a car go by itself! I used to think that this was stuff of the 1960's cartoon show, "The Jetsons." I took a video of it and I kept saying... "this is crazy!" I have to say that I was truly impressed. It is unbelievable how much technology has changed over just the past 10 to 15 years. In closing, anyone who says Elon Musk is a dummy..they are totally WRONG! Love your videos!
No joke ,cant eait till 12.5 its awsome. You guys are living the dream . Contats.😊😊😊
Hey Kathy! I live in NEPA too... 60 miles north of Allentown. Love these videos. You guys are great together.
Dave, just take the speed setting off relative, and set it for 10% over, if that is what the local speed tolerance is.
Coolest FSD video ever. Thanks
Hey Dave. Amazing video. Thank you for sharing this.
In Florida there is a new law about staying in the left lane unless overtaking
Another classic informative intelligent production ty for ur time
Nice video Dave! Fun to see Marco and Naples again!
V12 of FSD is much, much better than V11 was and I use it A LOT more now. It came included in our Model X Plaid and we use it there but it's so good I've subscribed to it at the $99/mth cost with our Model 3. Great video guys.
Y’all r so good together fun fun fun n happy happy happy
If you want to force it down to the speed limit for any reason, just tap the speed limit sign on the screen.
I don’t know about others, but I found to force it to make a left/right lane change to have to hold down the blinker stalk for a few seconds.
Some say push lever harder.
@@Mrbfgray There's a detent that gives you about 3 blinks of the turn signal, but that doesn't trigger an automatic lane change. You just have to push it past that detent to trigger an automatic lane change.
It’s amazing how much it has improved. It scared me when it first came out. Now, I am mostly relaxed while it’s driving.
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but when I drive my Model Y Performance, I love the one pedal driving.
When I used FSD Supervised, it used the physical brakes ALOT to help the car stop.
My fear is if you use FSD all the time, it will wear out your brake pads long before it would when I am using one pedal driving.
Kathy is correct. Studies have shown that humans are terrible at monitoring automated systems and in fact they can unmask latent sleepiness. Much more likely to fall asleep doing a monotonous task of monitoring than if actually driving.
Also, FSD is way better at humans than driving.. both can be true at the same time
Dave…. Tell the truth…. If there were an unfortunate mishap testing FSD…. At least you’re in Kathy’s car…😂😉
Dave you can hold down or up through the entire lane change you force it to change lane while FSD is on.
I was on FSD and it was in the left lane. Someone came up behind me and it lane changed to the right lane and displayed a message that it was getting out of the passing lane. So i know for sure it can yield and get out of the left lane because it can see who's coming up behind it
So you haven't had problems with stop signs and roundabouts? Those are major problems we have experienced in S FL. During the free period was actually better but with paid and updated it cant handle stop signs or round abouts anymore. It also now has problems with roads with lanes ending, and before it was great before last update
Yep Dave, you've been married a long time...... you just asked "Are we hungry yet?"..... too funny..... enjoy your videos.... thanks
I use FSD as often as I can but I tend to leave “minimize lane changes” on so it stays in the right lane instead of riding in the left lane. If there was an option to move more quickly from the passing lane I would definitely enable that instead.
The right turn curb thing got fixed in 12.3.4.
Dave you can double tapp the screen near the speed it will adjust to the speed limit
I have the same car as Junebug. The first time I used FSD two weeks ago the car stopped at a stop sign that said except for right turn. Then when it turned it curbed my right rear tire. I am very upset and have not used FSD since . I will try it again when we are on a road trip, hopefully they will work on that. They wanted me to tell them my experience but I had to leave for an appointment. How is the heat coming through the roof in south Florida, I am in the process of buying a sunshade. It will be hot here in Pa. soon. I am planning a quick trip to Delray Beach, Florida soon. Love watching you both learning so much. Can you do a question and answer video?
Listening a little further in… honestly guys, the whole thing about being worried about more traffic and more pedestrians etc, is the wrong take.. FSD 12 will save many lives.. in my experience, it just does not mess up when surrounded by cars and people
Great video
I just realized the attraction . Who wouldn't want a new toy!
Dave, question; as a snow bird from Canada I heard that Florida is enacting a law banning driving in the left lane if not passing. Our MY tends to run in left lane
Thx for sharing your experiences.
I noticed when you turned left on Tamami it hesitated possibly because of the single white painted lane markings and changed when you got around the corner on the broken white line. Question, does Tesla respect or know painted line rules?
Agree with you Dave, in fsd the car moves to the left too much. Sometimes for no reason. Left is for passing and lead foots.
FSD is still selecting the faster lane.
Funny you should talk about wanting a rear spoiler Dave, I’ve wanted one for my 2020 Model 3 , but didn’t know if I wanted to pay $800, I look at the Tesla site today , and for all old generation Model 3s, it s now $400, and that includes installation at Tesla. I’m thinking I might finally do it! 👍🏾
Save the $
Around 21:20 it’s debating getting in the left most left turn lane but there is a solid white line
Couldn’t agree more with the Marco cops comment. Got pulled over by them few weeks ago going 31 in a 25 it was also 2am after a fishing trip so i think they were looking for something to do lol
I am using the FSD (Supervised) at the moment. It has a LONG way to go to be safe. My main issue is being on the highway and it will suddenly brake for no apparent reason. Fortunately, it has never happened when another car is tailgating me.
Highway is still on version 11
If you find the car still too aggressive move it off average setting and set it to next lower setting chill mode, which I have my setting set at.
Yes you can make it follow the exact posted speed limit..
v12.3.6 is much better yet! In San Antonio it has poor lane choosing meaning if the navagation is to take a right in like 4 blocks sometimes it gets into the left lane and not move over to the right lane as soon as normal people would. Gives you a big chance of not being able to in time. Also some lanes that you need to be in to go straight it will choose the turn lane sometimes. However it is oveall a game changer. v12.4 and v12.5 are supposed to be even more "next level". Remember Tesla knows what is 6 months down the road. Will be interesting to see what August 8th will reveal.
Drive starts at 5:30
I agree, on 4 lane roads (generally speaking) the left lane should be for passing only.
1. To hang out in the left lane is a discourteous habitat that impairs faster traffic and most likely frustrate them (road rage).
2. The risk of a head on collision dramatically increases due to a confused driver; be that a drunk driver, someone who has normally driven on the left ( England/Australia etc.), or just plain confused.
-A real life example is of an elderly couple getting on interstate 64w came to a complete stop, looked around and then turned left and headed East. What lane do you think they were in? Yep, THEIR right lane opposing traffic’s s left.
In my years of driving I have experienced at least 4-5 wrong way drivers.
Be courteous be safe, drive in the right lane unless passing.
It’s also illegal now in FL to hang out in the left lane.
Dave is this new FSD using regen braking mostly?
Gjeebs was mentioning a rear spoiler that he liked.
Love your channel - in someways better than your son. Don’t tell him. lol. Anyway two things. I know it has some intelligence to keep up with traffic. Also you can press accelerator to speed up and it will hold that new speed. Sometimes it will back off and do it again. Like you I wish it had a slowdown trick. Great show.
If you think FSD (v.11) is good on the highways now, wait until 12.5 is released, which will make v.12 end to end single stack, bringing v.12 to the highway.
Too bad you didn’t get 12.3.6 I noticed some improvements with speed management although at times, especially in low speed zones, it can be uncomfortable.
16:35 there is no learning at the car level.
There have been so many Tesla crashes with all that extras. Many rental apartments & condos do not even have chargers. I seen many accidents where they run charger cord to their apartment dryer outlet for the 240 volt & seen kids tripped over the cord & got hurt. South Carolina (Myrtle Beach & Hilton Head Island areas) & Tennessee (Great Smoky Mountains region) do not have many chargers as the infrastructure is poor in these areas.
Do your research, invest in Tesla.
Dave, I need you to come to the Malta, NY superchargers. Take NY thruway into Albany, and continue north or I-87. Let me know what you think about FSD around the exit 6 bridge as you go northbound. Then try driving on the bridge from east to west. And then for a real thrill... return back onto I-87N by heading over the bridge in a west to east fashion. I've been told that the entire fleet has this issue....you'll see. Check out the videos that I posted on my channel. Worse than Chuck Cook's left turn.
The car is smart. You should stay out of the left lane unless you’re passing or turning left.
Dave flashing been lights causes the weird speed fluctuations I notice on 12.3.4
Another refinement FSD desperately needs is to STOP hanging out in a cars blind spot on the highway. Been doing that from day 1.
I miss the autopilot setting called Mad Max
when i had the free month, and i wanted the car to change lanes, and it didn't do it, i just yanked the wheel and moved over myself, of course it disconnected, and i was just frustrated and drove the rest of my trip myself
We subscribed to FSD and the very trip it curbed one of our wheels.
May i ask where you were driving? Geographically.
Also hang too much on that. If i were you i d wait for 12.4 and try again.
May FSD smelled Dave's breath while he was sleeping ...
Of all the EVs you have owned or driven, which is the best or your favorite? and lastly, which do you think is the best value?
Model 3 LFP is the best value. Love the Model 3's
Hey “Tater”😂😂 make a video about if it’s “Tezla” or “Tesla” both of our wives say “Tez la”…. And I say “Tes-la”
Left lanes are for overtaking only
Seems like only some cars are getting OTA updates - 22 MYLR stuck on 2024.8.9 with beta FSD - tesla says its in spec!
My 22 M3LR updated from 2024.8.9 to 2024.14.6 on 5/11, which I think was the day after it was released. Hopefully, you'll get yours soon. It's the first time I've tried FSD. It drove like a student driver who was behind the wheel for the first time. It slowed down abruptly too far away from stop signs, red lights, and turns, and then crept up to them. But the only time I had to take control was when it came to a new roundabout that was still an intersection on the map. It turned on the left turn signal and acted like it was going to take a shortcut and turn into the oncoming lane, so I took control. I also tried out the autopark feature once. It was slow and hesitant and drove over the line between the parking spaces before correcting and stopping in the correct position. Overall, FSD did pretty well but it not something I want to use in town. I may try it on a road trip next month, although it will cost me $99 because it will be beyond the 30 day free trial.
Update: I took another test drive that included the roundabout that FSD failed previously and this time it navigated it perfectly. No OTA updates in between attempts.
@@embigginator because of the lack of updates when I paid for FSD for a month I got the still-not-ready beta version - 3 close calls & more complete failures. We have a “divergent diamond” intersection and a mile down the same road an intersection with 12 corners! It just gives up on the poor design of our road system. It couldn’t deal with a simple left hand turn on a green arrow!
Glad wife was well in that incident but was Muffin okay!?
hard to listen too......from Jersey, that's why!!
Footage not lined up with eachother but good video nonetheless
that was impressive, but I would of felt uneasy using it in the city
New things often feel uneasy
Still does some dumb stuff. I was on a lane which is merging on the highway, one of those smaller roads which leads to a highway and with no speed signs the car went from 30s to 10 mph in the turn for no reason. I almost got rear ended if I didn’t smash the gas To go. Def need to keep an eye on it. With that said it does do a great job with stop signs and red lights etc. it’s NOT PERFECT AND DO NOT DEPEND ON IT 100% !!
I would be disappointed if you went to the apple store for oranges.
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Driving in the left lane is a fault. It shouldn't do that, except for overtaking
Dave, I do think we need to start informing customers that it is really (enhanced cruise control, and assistance) we can refer to as (E.C.C.A.) that’s why I do believe that the consumers will not get a false sense of security.
Instead of calling it (F.S.D.); why don’t they just call it enhanced cruise control basically what it is, cruise control is depressing that people are calling it full self-driving, which never should be mentioned when driving a vehicle because it gives people a false sense of security, it should be called enhanced cruise control, assistance that’s exactly what it is you are giving the consumer a false sense of security, which is lying to the customer like Elon Musk that he wants people to have a false sense of security with their vehicle’s. Now, should Elon Musk be charged with false advertising I don’t think so, but at the same token, he is truly giving the nation a false sense of security with their vehicle’s. Now I think it’s great, but I should think about the true way of presenting his enhanced cruise control, assistance designs, and exactly what it’s doing.
Sincerely!
R.S.V.
They call it what it is... "Full Self Driving" ergo it can drive anywhere, "(supervised)" ergo needs to be supervised. Cry me a river
# of close friends family lives saved by Tesla so far - 3
You can't put a price on family and innocent human life.
FSD + human supervision is statistically the safest way of driving.
@@lucadellasciucca967 By a factor of >10.
Not sure why I don't have ver 12??
Do I have to be a youtube person. Sad if so.
Has litterally nothing to do with that. Your hardware version most likely.
So my cars are too new?