Cinematic Excrement: Episode 125 - An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Maybe it should burn.
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If they had just made an action film with Stallone, Goldberg, and Chan that would have been an infinitely more interesting film.
Maybe with Sigourney Weaver instead of Goldberg.
If they had made a film of all these people as themselves, drinking coffee and talking about random stuff, *that* would have been infinitely more interesting.
@@tristanhartup4936 Or Regina King
I can already see that film looking like a prototype version of the Rush Hour series.
Fun Fact: Stallone reached out to Chan to play the part of Simon Phoenix in Demolition Man. But schedules and stuff.
I really like this concept. I think Hollywood should remake bad movies with good concepts, realizing missed opportunities instead of capitalising on what was already good.
“The Player” is a movie that does this concept FAR better in execution-and was done six years prior to this flick (1992) with the talents of (among others) Robert Altman, Tim Robbins, Whoopi Goldberg, Vincent D’Onofrio, Dean Stockwell, Richard Grant, Sydney Pollack, and Lyle Lovett involved. AND it was released by the (at the time) smaller Fine Line studios, so you KNOW they have axes to grind and secrets to spill about the big boys of the era. I can’t recommend you watch that film enough instead of this trash!
@@christmashake8968 The Player is one of those movies that I hear is good but never get around to watching. It's on HBO Max now though, so I'll definitely check it out later!
@@tylertheguy3160 how was it?
@@christmashake8968 It got a 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, compared to Burn Hollywood Burn, which got a paltry 7% on Rotten Tomatoes.
The fact that you still keep your ringtone as Christopher Lloyd from the Oogieloves really makes me happy. Still one of my favorite episodes.
LoL...I just watched that episode for the first time yesterday. So hilarious!
That means he's had the same phone for like 9 years.
@@diggerfan931910 years now.
The film did okay in the UK mainly due to an unfounded rumour that spread like wildfire.
The rumour was that the real director had removed his name from the film and that director was Tim Burton.
I first saw it it a viewing party of Burton fans who spent most of the night making excuses for it, until the reveal that it was Arthur Hiller.
It seems those Burton fans weren’t simply fans, but apologists. And they weren’t even apologizing for the right guy, especially considering that Burton was off the back of the strangeness that was “Mars Attacks.”
There’s also a rumour that “Mystery Men” was actually directed by Tim Burton. (Tom Waits even said as much in his autobiography!)
That sounds insane. Then again, I remember something similar about how a 1998 film called "Thursday" was directed by Quentin Tarantino under an alias.
Smeghead tells us who Mike Ovitz is literally the moment I finished googling him.
He knows us so well :')
Haha! So true
BTW, for those who are wondering, the "gay mafia" is actually very real. It refers to David Geffen, Bryan Singer and other such people who've actually been dividing and conquering the entertainment industry to carve it up and cause dissension and chaos. Geffen in particular has done this. He is the master of excavating or even inventing dirt on people on his shit list. Ovitz was a dick, but Geffen is worse; as people like Jon Peters, Peter Guber, Walter Yetnikoff, Don Henley, Laura Nyro, Donna Summer and Neil Young all can tell you. Geffen used his connection with reporters like Bernard Weinraub to spread it out; Ovitz even referred to Geffen and Weinraub as "masters of controlled spin." Geffen also constantly fucked over his supposed creative partners, Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg, because of constantly hiding the true state of DreamWorks from them and denigrating Spielberg as not giving enough time and effort, even though their original 1994 pact included extramural activities and Geffen continued to do so. But worst, Geffen helped facilitate, aid and abet the crimes of not just Singer, but also the predators who violated Corey Feldman and Corey Haim, Weinstein, Trump, Lou Pearlman, Gary Goddard, Garth Ancier, Kevin Spacey, Charlie Rose, Jeffrey Epstein and more, using them as allies of convenience, people to keep tabs on; and helping spread false stories on others to distract from the truth; Geffen also had a hand in smearing the Clintons (after 2000, that is), Obama, and Michael Jackson.
So the gay mafia did bring down Ovitz, though Ovitz's lesser (but still bad) actions merely gave ammo for them to use and they didn't have to invent things for him.
P.S. Eisner was actually the one who hired Ovitz at Disney. The problem wasn't that Ovitz did a shit job-it's that he did no job, because Eisner didn't specify what Ovitz was supposed to do, and Eisner was also keeping all the power to himself. Ovitz actually said, "Why did you hire me, I'm not doing anything." Eisner came to agree that it was a mistake, but still let Ovitz have his rich severance package, which did prompt a lawsuit, as the rest of the company was baffled and felt Ovitz was getting too much. It actually became part of the so-called "Save Disney War", when Roy E. Disney and Eisner went head to head over Eisner's micromanagement and thorough mistakes at the end of his run, leading to Bob Iger taking his place as CEO.
Happened to me too, haha
@@luv4hutch Wow so he got a tun of money for literally doing nothing!
According to Eric Idle in an interview, Arthur Hiller's side of the story is indeed true. Idle also said "they couldn't find the right cut" and said that Hiller was afraid that the film would ironically become an Alan Smithee film.
And it DID. I hate this film. Its is hands down one of the Worst FILMS I have ever seen in my 37 years walking this earth. Its easily one of the top 5(Tentacolino,Trucks, Simon Birch,Drop Dead Fred,The Pest are among my most HATED films) WORST films I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.
Its Stupid,Ironic,Forced,Contrived,So pious, full of its self, that it has its own head shoved so far up its own ass that EVERY single solitary attempt of Satire and Self Deprecation falls flat on its ass.
Burn Hollywood Burn, is a PURE waste of Film. I have NEVER had a Film make me as FURIOUS as Burn Hollywood,Burn. It DESERVED every single Razzie it won in 1998.
@@Tornado1994 I hear S.O.B is a better version of this film, I saw The Player and that was better too. I think the mockumentary style hurt Burn Hollywood Burn, and the fact that the solution wasn't Alan coming up with a new name felt like a missed opportunity IMO.
@@Tornado1994 Why do you hate Simon Birch? I’ll admit that the film has tons of flaws, such as an inconsistent tone, over the top music score and one of the most unintentionally funny “Death By Baseball” scenes ever, which does ruin the more dramatic moments, but I really like the friendship between Joe and Simon, with good acting, the offbeat humour made me laugh, and it was, in spite of being quite corny, a touching story of growing up, challenging your beliefs, and dealing with death.
@@thesapphireone I HATE Simon Birch, because its a Bastardized Adaptation of a Fantastic Anti War Novel called "A Prayer for Owen Meany" and because its Manipulative, Schamltzy, Badly Written, Implausible Horseshit.
@@Tornado1994 Thank you for replying, but why do you use AllCaps?
Next time, the movie that broke Will Smith's success streak. Wild Wild West.
I am looking forward to it already! It should be good
@@matthewdaley746 I didn't know that. Thanks for letting us know mate
@@matthewdaley746 After Earth is a dreadful movie! I think Will Smith (more or less) admitted that himself. As for Movie 43, I don't know what possessed that cast to play in that film. Mark Kermode (the BBC film critic) reckoned at the time that the film studios had found evidence of the actors in compromising situations. There is no way, otherwise, to explain why they were in the film lol
@@matthewdaley746 Yup! You are absolutely right
@@matthewdaley746 I think you are right on both fronts ;)
6:58 That title card seems like a bad attempt at Monty Python style humor. At this point Idle should've grabbed away the typewriter from Eszterhas and said "Let me show you how it's done."
Jackie Chan was actually Stallone's preferred choice to play Simon Phoenix in Demolition Man, which he turned down due to not ever wanting to play villains.
Not, to mention, that Sylvester Stallone, beating, Jackie Chan in combat would have been, more, absurd, than, anything else in that film, and, that's, really, saying something, all things considered.
@K Cheng That wouldn't have made sense in 1987, forget about 1998, and, let's be honest, Wesley Snipes really should have been able to totally kick his ass, the only film where he lost, was, New Jack City, and, as he played the villain, he, totally, had to.
@@matthewdaley746 that’s cause he’s not a martial arts fighter In new jack city
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 My point exactly, Ice-T, was, the hero, and, thus, he had to, win, so, the villain can't do the thing that makes the fight a mismatch, there, were, a lot of things about that film that made absolutely zero sense.
Was Jackie Chan the inspiration for Skull Face from the Metal Gear Solid games?
It's a movie so bad, that even Alan Smithee's career was destroyed!
Also, I hope Disney paid Universal a good amount of money for using Woody Woodpecker music in this turd...
That just bothers me now. Also, Disney Cast Members need to get more Work and More Pay, Disney!
So, TROPIC THUNDER did it better? 🤷♂️ 🤔
Of course
That of course actually had a story...
Robert Evans is a crazy person. Him holding two pairs of sunglasses is the most normal thing he has ever done.
Why is Weinstein even in this movie? Sure, he was the co-head of Miramax at the time (another division of Disney), but it's not like he's playing himself, and he's certainly no Stan Lee. Was this just a case of "Hey, you're making a movie about the movie industry, can I be in it?"
And he never tried to act again either. I'm guessing even Weinstein was ashamed by his role in his movie. Maybe he was going to play himself, but realized that a man with as many skeletons in the closet as he had shouldn't draw attention to his sleaziness, but also didn't want to be told no? IDK.
He had his lazy eye on Whoopi Goldberg.
Harvey Weinstein *directed* the ‘80s teen comedy “Playing For Keeps” (alongside his brother Bob) so he wasn’t much better at that than he was at acting. If that movie is remembered at all, it’s because it was one of Marisa Tomei’s first films.
21.00 My opinion: Weinstein had the critics eating out of his hand in those days. They were tripping over themselves praising everything with the name Weinstein. Most likely in exchange for access and avoidance of lawsuits or blackballing.
1.04 No, Sean, Disney will not stop. The moment they're done with these live-action remakes they'll start doing animated remakes of the live-action remakes. And once those are done they'll start doing live-action remakes of the animated remakes of the live-action remakes.
If there's an animated movie of theirs that could use a live action do-over, it's 1985's The Black Cauldron. Or adapt all 5 books in the series that movie loosely adapted.
Basically, it's Disney-ception...
Nah, they'll just move on to doing live action remakes of the Pixar movies.
Sit and spin, troll. You know for a fact that will never happen. And the films aren't that bad by any means, especially because they're not "replacements" for the originals, they are complements and the chance to create a new interpretation. None of the films in the bunch have ever been below an 8 out of 10, in terms of how good they are, and certain films labeled remakes actually aren't, Christopher Robin for example.
Disney is certainly not above reproach, and indeed COVID has helped bring out the worst, though Walt's union busting in the '40s will forever remain the company's worst act but they are not monsters devouring everything and everyone.
@@matthewdaley746 Disney isn't actually a monopoly though. With the Fox purchase, it has no more than 39 percent of the box office total, especially when the other studios are factored in. And plus, it was time for new leadership at Fox; if there's to be a chance of doing right by the Alien franchise, including the potential hope of reviving Neill Blomkamp's planned legacy sequel to Aliens, there had to be a new broom, and Disney is that new broom. I do feel that Alan Horn should not be studio chair anymore, because he did things like shutterint Touchstone Pictures, insisting on the "no tobacco" guidelines, personally was responsible for the boneheaded situation with James Gunn as well as the potential disaster in renegotiating with Sony for Spider-Man, and despite his talks of "calming the waters", he is in fact an arsonist who is also a firefighter. He personally fucked over Robert Shaye and Michael Lynne, getting them kicked out of New Line and leading Warner Bros. to fully subsume it, for example, by tricking them into greenlighting The Golden Compass and he doubled down on it, but he made Warners blame Shaye and Lynne and not look at his own role in it.
But with someone like Meryl Poster as studio chair, things would be brighter and Disney would scale to even better heights, and possibly evolve to be even better.
I nearly spit my drink out at the "Condoms for Christmas" joke.
Was that drink Tea?
@@TommyDeonauthsArchives It was, actually.
It’s one of those songs where you hear it and think “if this is one of the tracks that made it into the final film, what were the rejections like?”
“Love Story,” Arthur Hiller’s most famous film, has not aged well. Even the tagline, “Love means never having to say you’re sorry,” is a dated piece of romantic advice that most psychologists would warn people away from following.
Act one: Missionary Position
Act two: Whips and Chains
Act three: Doggy Style
Pretty sure Walt spinning at 20,000 rpms in his freezer is what is actually powering the Magic Kingdom.
This movie reminds me of "Thank You For Smoking" but so cloaked in inside jokes, that barely anyone will get them.
So essentially this was the Bizzaro -World version of Robert Altman's "The Player"
I appreciate the Disney rant at the beginning of the video.
@@matthewdaley746 The stupid thing is, Disney absolutely deserves all the flack its getting, but when you look at the rest of the film industry it's no wonder Disney is king. Seriously, Universal has the Fifty Shades movies plus Jem and the Holograms, Paramount has those Transformers movies, Fox had Fant4stic, WB has the mess that was the beginnings of the DCEU, and let's not even get into Sony. Disney doesn't have anything as notoriously derided.
Disney is indeed an evil money-grubbing corporation, but the rest of the film industry put itself in a position to let it run wild I'm afraid. So it's hard to be mad at Disney for winning.
@@matthewdaley746 Oh no not Frozen.
I feel that ranting about Disney is starting to be basic. Like what's the point going off on them when everyone has done it? From a capitalist and political stand point, yes. But however, every rant about Disney is starting to feel the same.
@@LinkMarioSamus They had the bombs at the beginning of the decade (John Carter and Lone Ranger) and the remakes that have now been deemed terrible just by their mere existence. Saying that they don't have anything as notoriously derided isn't totally accurate. Hell, they had Artemis Fowl this year, which people compared to stuff like Last Airbender and Eragon.
I kind of wish their stuff was more obviously bad rather than just mediocre bad. Then there'd be a clear case for quality improvement, just like there was with Bumblebee or the DC films post Suicide Squad (barring Justice League). But when you make a film that people either deem to be good/great/okay that makes a lot of money, the rule is to continue doing that, so that even when the quality goes down people will still be roped into seeing it.
Bloody hell, no wonder it took so long, I'd be drained watching this too.
On the topic of Disney's self depreciation, it tends to come in the form of "We'll make fun of ourselves so long as the story still validates us in the end." Sometimes it works like with Enchanted or the development of jerk-with-a-heart-of-gold-type characters like Flynn Rider or Maui, but it largely feels try-hard even in otherwise good films. And then you the Disney remake style self-depreciation which means explaining plot-holes no one cares about.
@AT Productions I know it's not a Disney property but Shrek makes fun of Disney all the time.
In this case it's not self deprecating humour but yeah, kids and family movies indeed put jokes about a company's business practices or just poke fun at them out of pettiness and rivalry.😏
@AT Productions stop. Stop doing the ‘it’s for children’ excuse.
I laughed really hard at describing Jackie Chan as a “linguist” because I’ve read his autobiography; he hates English! He’s never liked our language and it used to give him terrible headaches just hearing it! So, yeah, with context, the joke was funny
They sure got a lot of mileage out of that stock footage from "Die Hard With A Vengeance"
Cinergi did produce it, and it was distributed by Touchstone (A Similar Arm Of Disney To Hollywood Pictures) internationally.
So...it was basically free.
This was one of those movies that I had always heard about in the recesses of the bad movie scene, but one I never even felt the desire to look up a clip from.
Having seen this review now, I realize that I really wasn’t missing much, if anything.
It basically looks like if THIS IS SPINAL TAP and TROPIC THUNDER had hate sex in the dumpster behind Applebee’s and AN ALAN SMITHEE FILM: BURN HOLLYWOOD BURN was the unholy spawn that resulted from it.
Oh. I have only known about this movie by name... years ago... and I'm about to find out what it looks like now!
I actually saw this movie, and yeah, you really aren't missing much, unless you're writing a book on 90s Hollywood or something.
I have seen this movie and apart from a few amusing jokes here and there the movie is forgettable. This film is barely a mockumentary as they never really stick with the format for very long without having a flashback or going on a tangent. Every scene is exposition over exposition masquerading as an interview segment. It's more like one of those bad found footage films that forgets it's a found footage film and falls into the troupe of traditional cinema.
I stayed up too late and was just about to go to sleep but then I saw this
Same
Did you sleep already Who Dis?
Fun Fact: The footage of the explosions are taken from Die Hard With A Vengeance!
"Michael Bay movies aren't the worst things ever"
*Flashes back to Pearl Harbour, Transformers 2, 4, & 5*
Bad Boys was good as well.
@@michaelsinger4638 🤣🤣🤣🤣That was funny!
I'm gonna be the odd one out and agree to that quote.
While Michael Bay has issues with his writing (particularly towards his "comedy"), I feel like he gets way too much hate.
Especially since I've seen a lot of movies that are subjectively worse.
And in some cases, MB isn't entirely one note.
Bad Boys, The Rock, Armageddon, The Island, Pain & Gain, 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi, and 6 Underground were decent enough films to stand on their own.
Of course, I'm not here to tell people off for not agreeing with me but I feel like addressing a hot take.
To be honest, Michael Bay films are kind of a guilty pleasure of mine.
While there are better movies I could be watching, sometimes I'm in the mood for a little snack film.
And ever since the pandemic, I was mostly looking back on stuff I liked as a kid.
And while I think a movie like Transformers 2 is a bad film, I kinda have a soft spot for it, mostly for the opening action sequence and the "New Divide" song.
And I think Transformers 4 had an interesting premise with the bounty hunter Lamborghini robot Lockdown and C.I.A agent Sideshow Bob.
@@matthewdaley746 Meh, I'm not that worried about critical reception, as my tastes in movies is rather unorthodox for the most part.
I mean, films like Titanic, Frozen, and Cuties (Mignonnes) are rated highly on Rotten Tomatoes, but I have zero interest in watching any of them.
But I can agree that Bumblebee and Bad Boys For Life are pretty awesome films in their own right. (but I still liked Bad Boys II, Transformers: Dark of the Moon, and TF: Age of Extinction, in spite of their issues)
Knowing what we know about Ryan O'Neill, thank God he wasn't playing the producer with the daddy fetish. Also, I've heard stories of Courtney Love calling Weinstein a creeper long before the #metoo movement.
I’ve only seen him in Barry Lyndon. I know he starred in Love Story and Tough Guys Don’t Dance. I need to see him in Love Story and Paper Moon. If you haven’t seen Barry Lyndon you should give it a try as it’s directed by Stanley Kubrick.
I said that because Ryan O'Neill infamously hit on his daughter Tatum at a funeral because he hadn't seen her in so long that he didn't recognize her. How does one get to that point?
@@alishastephenson1437 I knew they were estranged from each other but I didn’t know why until now.
Yeah, Ryan is an infamous piece of shit, once hit on his own daughter at a funeral because he forgot what she looked like.
Interestingly, Ryan O’Neal comes off as a serious asshole in his co-star Robert Evans’ book “The Kid Stays In The Picture.”
You still have that same ringtone after all those years. Now **that** is dedication to the craft.
I've been stressing out over the election and needing a good laugh. Thanks for coming through. I like the new hair style too. Nicely done all around.
Why did Eszterhas think he was the right choice to write this movie? Comedy is not his strong suit. When people are laughing at his movies it's usually not intentional.
He actually thinks he's funny, he still defends the jokes in this movie. It was pretty much written for an audience of one, himself.
Let´s bring the guy notorious for writing two erotic films with rape scenes to make a comedy...
The end result is a bunch of desperated sexual jokes. This, and the Harvey Weinstein cameo, makes me think he is a creep
I gotta say.....I love the self-care intros.
If anyone wants to see films about films you should see 8 1/2 (1963), The Player (1992), Sunset Boulevard (1950), Contempt (1963) and Ed Wood (1994).
Let's add "Singin' in the Rain" to the mix. It sort of touches on that awkward transition from silent cinema to the talkies ("The Dueling Cavalier" screen test scene is hilarious). It's also one of the few musicals out there I personally like. Also, Tropic Thunder, Day for Night and Living in Oblivion (it was the big-screen debut of Peter Dinklage) fall into there too.
Also Day for Night, directed by François Truffaut
@@jbvader721 I’ve seen Singin In The Rain, and it was fantastic. The Dueling Cavalier preview was one of my favourite moments. I’ve seen bits of Living In Oblivion and it seems interesting, I also saw Hearts Of Darkness: A Filmmaker’s Apocalypse. I am looking forward to Day For Night as I enjoyed The 400 Blows. I’d also mention Adaptation (2002), as it’s about a man having writer’s block and he’s constantly in his own mind.
I would like to add The Artist (2011).
@@jonathanbarr9764 That's good, too. It's even interesting for non-silent film fans. I was very iffy about it back in 2018 when the Best Pictures would play on TV, and the same was true for Wings (1927). But in 2021, I saw them and enjoyed them.
This is one of the razzie winner's I've been looking forward to the most, I always love your take and extra info you put into each video.
Me too.
I can't wait for Basic Instinct 2. I know it might take a while(like 6 or 7 months at this rate) but it's honnestly one of the worst film I've seen in my life!
Or at least it's a solid contender amongst films like Jack and Jill and Epic Movie.
Wow, Whoopi Goldberg really has been in everything.
You would think she'd have hired a better agent after Theodore Rex.
(I could say the same about Eric Idle, but at least he had Discworld 2 the year prior...)
Yeah, until you remember that she also, did, The Associate, which was bad enough, WITHOUT, the Donald Trump cameo, Eric Idle was always a bigger star across the pond, anyway.
Eric Idle is an absurdist comedian. That's one genre where original script and end result can be completely different, and hard to predict.
@@Ruinwyn This was predictably awful, sorry to say, it's monumentally tragic, either it's going to be a masterpiece, or, a total disaster, his films began to lean towards the latter, and, they never truly recovered.
Anyone else disappointed he didn’t bring back the Celebrities who Needed A Paycheck counter? Unless he’s saving it for Movie 43?
The premise of this film is quite novel, I wonder if anyone else will take a stab at something similar again someday? While based on reality, Dolemite is My Name worked very well and showed that a film about a film can work and be successful, if the people in charge are competent and care
I do believe Hiller's cut would have been better, but still probably bad due to Joe's writing.
Blake Edwards told the same story in “S.O.B.” with a better cast, even more bitterness, AND we get to see Julie Andrews’ tits. There was also a low budget indie mockumentary called “And God Spoke” about a couple idiots trying to make a low budget Biblical epic that I remember quite fondly.
To be honest, I'd like to see a movie with both Stallone and Jackie Chan.
Same.
As someone else commented, Stallone initially wanted Chan to play the Wesley Snipes character in Demolition Man, but it didn’t work out.
This just seems like a worse version of Tropic Thunder.
So i guess this is the second worst thing Harvey Weinstein has done...
Also, this soundtrack and the jokes are the easiest and cringiest things i´ve ever heard. It's embarrasing.
The song during the end credits isn't bad, but other than that yeah, it's pretty bad.
@@billybarnett9518 thank you; the song is Synthetic World. Too bad it wasn’t featured in a better film
Me: I should head to bed now.
Smeghead: Look, a video!
Me: ... Alright, you won me over.
The Razzies' track record in the 1990s wasn't as good as in other decades, but this film was completely deserving of its Worst Picture win; along with Ghosts Can't Do It, it's one of two times in that decade that the right choice was made.
The rant about Disneyland was everything I needed to hear today. 👍
Yeah, really glad someone actually, sees Disney for the insane racket they always were.
Burn, Hollywood, Burn. One of Public Enemy's finest tracks. Featuring Ice Cube and Big Daddy Kane. Put it on a loop for 90 minutes rather than watch this product from a horse's rear end. Thank me later.
That whole "The movie Hollywood doesn't want you to see" tagline and the Disney connection kind of reminds of that one low budget movie Escape from Tomorrow where the director secretly filmed it at Disneyworld. The film was then basically promoted as the movie Disney didn't want people to see and basically daring them to sue the production but hilariously Disney didn't take the bait and the movie came and went without much reaction from anyone. Then ironically when Tony Goldmark, the guy who regularly films videos at these same parks, later did a review of the movie, the video got copyright claimed almost immediately.
Bill Condon directed "Dreamgirls" and convinced Disney to make "Beauty and the Beast" a musical, so you're wrong there.
Also, ripping Weinstein was the best part of this review.
He also wrote Chicago and The Greatest Showman.
Hey Smeggish, missed your content, you're always Awesome, thanks!
Another excellent video sir! The sad thing, re all the in jokes and references being indecipherable, is when you compare whatever *this* is, to Blake Edwards' masterpiece "S.O.B." That was a film that dealt with the seedy, backstabbing, underhand nightmare world that is Hollywood, so in essence they should both be on the same page. However, S.O.B. is sharp, witty, tight, plenty of action, and countless laughs from a tremendous ensemble cast. It never loses the viewer in "industry jargon", whilst at the same time putting us right in the middle of the dark side of film making. Yes, I'm biased, because although Blake Edwards will always be loved as the man who took Peter Sellers and (with a few, err, ups and downs) and made him into Clouseau, I feel S.O.B. is an overlooked, practically unknown, gem. And you mentioned that BHB had no footage of Trio other than a generic trailer, S.O.B. had quite a bit of "Night Wind".
So I'm totally with you - don't watch Burn Hollywood Burn. Watch S.O.B. instead!
Damn dude I REALLY needed this right now, thanks so much!!!
SAME
Agreed! Sean's videos always brighten the day
Thank you, Sean! This is something I need for my depression right now during this time of madness. 🥰👍
This movie is such a misfire that even today everyone tries to pretend it doesn't exist. The only reason why anyone remembers it is the fact that it managed to kill off the whole Alan Smithee thing, which may actually be its only saving grace.
Yeah, currently, when a good director makes a turkey, they truly have to own their screw-up, no questions asked.
This won't be on Disney+ anytime soon!
Smeg...Smeg....
This movie* was a producers-like insurance/tax scam!
It was made simply to lose money and make (poor) jokes at the expense of personal enemies.
Just like how Canada used to be a tax shelter, as well as being much cheaper.
Can't believe that you didn't mention that Hiller disliked the edit so much that he requested that the pseudonym Alan Smithee actually be used in place of his credit.
No, despite popular belief, he did not do this as some kinda "cool" meta-joke, he actually got mad that the cut he wanted was changed, and thought the movie was only ruined by the editing process!
Here's hoping that we get that "Burn Hollywood Burn: An Alan Smithee Film: The Hiller Cut" masterpiece one day, haha!
Eric Idle backed this story up, he said there are missing scenes from Hiller's cut.
@@billybarnett9518 Not at all surprising. Without opening or end titles the movie barely cracks 70 minutes.
I think that's exactly what Sean talks about at 5:35
@@MrGared22 Can't believe it took two years for some to tell me that.
Another thing nobody brought up and correct me if I’m wrong: But I’m pretty sure the director burning the negative print of the movie wouldn’t mean the film is lost; as almost all high budget films would have backup copies on tape that would’ve been used for daily screenings by the producers and the director during filming. It’s how Apocalypse Now was able to get an extended Directors Cut.
That would explain the "Critics loved it" situation
“Well…um…” - the producers of “Foodfight”
@@zombiedodge1426 I was talking about live action movies and not computer animated ones.
Harvey Weinstein probably bought his good reviews
"Who was it made for?" Given the description of this part is giving me flashbacks to one of the criticisms Super Star Limo got in the Defunctland video, my guess is the intended audience was Michael Eisner.
I believe it was made for an audience of one, Joe himself.
@@matthewdaley746 He shouted from the rooftops for Disney to give it a bigger release.
And the irony is, I actually own this on DVD.
Ok, it was 2009 and I was deployed to the Middle East for a year, so was not mentally in the greatest mental condition. But it sits proudly next to my copies of Battlefield Earth, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band, and The Bad Pack. Yes, part of my DVD collection is dedicated to horrible movies.
Oh, look, they just reused two explosions from Die Hard with a Vengeance from different camera angles at 16:27 and 16:30 :) EDIT: Damn, just continued to read the comments and it was already commented on yesterday. Sorry. BUT: One is from the beginning of the movie, and the other one is from the scene with the subway train.
17:44 That's gonna be me after I watch this dumpster fire of a film.
The irony is that Ryan O'Neal was in this film and he was also in another Arthur Hiller film, Love Story, which received an Oscar nomination.
6:58 For a second, I thought you edited in the Woody Woodpecker theme into that scene.
Hi from Turkey. Please keep doing this. Your videos makes me smile and i need that. Sorry for bad English. Thank you brother.
Wasn't the footage from the film "Trio" just Die Hard with a Vengeance?
Seems to be
Yes it was from the thrid Die Hard - www.imdb.com/title/tt0118577/movieconnections/?tab=mc&ref_=tt_trv_cnn
Yes. Also produced by Andrew Vajna and Cinergi.
Your channel is criminally underrated.
Eisner at the time had a big hard on for Hollywood inside jokes. Look at Defunctlands Superstar Limo for proof
@@matthewdaley746 yes and no
@@matthewdaley746 He got Over $500 Million dollars, Yeah a Raw deal.
@@matthewdaley746 I mean, he was responsible for all those Disney cheapquels. Though I guess you could argue Iger and his live-action remakes are hardly an improvement.
@@matthewdaley746 After he did Disney Studios Paris, Hong Kong Disneyland, Animal Kingdom, California Adventure, Not to mention several Animated flops, Plus the stream of DTV Films and lackluster ABC Ratings all lead to his leaving.
Admittedly I can't buy the plausibility of this fake movie, "Trio." Why? Jackie Chan is in it, so it has to have good fight scenes at the very least. How do you get Jackie Chan and Sylvester Stallone in the same movie and have it be boring? It could be a bad film, but the two of them together making a movie that isn't entertaining? I literally can't imagine what that would look like. :P
And then have the third one of this supposed "trio" be Whoopi Goldberg of all people? I know she was huge at the time, so that may have been why they got her. But last I remembered, she was mostly known for comedies and the occasional drama, not guns and explosions action movies like what that TRIO movie was supposed to be. The closest thing to an "action" movie I can think of that she did around that time was probably Theodore Rex, a movie Whoopi has probably tried blocking out of her memory as much as possible. Seriously, look up what happened to her with that movie, it's a wild story. And then there's her role in Star Trek: The Next Generation, but I don't think she did a lot of action on that show. But having her be the third one in an action film alongside Sylvester Stallone and Jackie Chan is a weird choice.
I can’t wait for Wild Wild West
I’m surprised there was no DBZ reference at “Over 9000 submissions”
It was _over Nine THOU-SAAAANDDDD??!!!_
A new CE episode to distract from the horrors of the world.
Oh boy, I've been WAITING for this one! Thanks, Smeghead!
And the worst thing is, this COULD have worked! It had Eric Idle, but then we have to admit his projects outside the Python-sphere kinda sucked. But if they had had let him WRITE THE SCRIPT....
First things, first, I cannot praise you enough for that Disney rant, it shows me you're a true human being who can see why Disney and the rest of Hollywood should burn and be forgotten. With that said, as someone who wants to dedicate his life to filmmaking, at least Hollywood serves as a prime example of what not to do if you somehow become successful in the film industry. Have some form of integrity, be ambitious but know your budget, and for the love of God in the middle of a fucking pandemic, don't screw over your employees! And follow the fucking guidelines! For the love of all that's sacred and sane, I never thought I'd say this, but COVID-19 is a serious wrench being tossed into the film industry's machine and shows us why we really don't need the Film Industry, especially if they're fucking over their employees and sometimes literally fucking them (thank you, Weinstein, for that painfully obvious joke). And I use to love movies and still love movies, but not Hollywood for all the shitty things they have done, for me it was Frank Coppola freeing Victor Salva, a Convicted pedophile who only served months in jail, that made me not wanna trust anyone in Hollywood and hope COVID-19 kicked them straight in the balls and send them all to Hell. So, it is good to know Hollywood scumbags look out for each other, and I'm glad I'm not part of it. I just hope I'll have success in the Independent route, especially with everything going to the Streaming industry. I have nothing to say about the movie, otherwise, it serves as a case we need to look into Hollywood's corruption a second and third time.
Dude, the hair..
Quarantine does things to people.
@@TheHeroOfTomorrow Haha, the best reply ever
@@TheHeroOfTomorrow It apparently causes your hair to change color.
My take?
1) The producers et. al. don't know Spy Magazine had folded several years prior.
2) They also think everyone on the planet had a subscription.
Spy folded twice. First in 1994, for a few months, then it was revived, then in 1998 it folded for good.
I miss it so much.
Only 19 theaters, huh? I did not realize what rarefied company I was In when I saw this.
Oh, and I had forgotten most of it until now, so thanks for that... :-)
"Take care of yourself. You deserve it." What if I don't?
A Smeghead Video: Stop Movie Stop!
If I recall correctly, pages from the screenplay leaked early on Usenet. Trio was originally intended to have Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, and some other near peak action star like Jean-Claude Van Damme to make it a ridiculous over the top parody of the type you might have seen in Robert Altman's The Player. Instead, it just looks like generic action movie that has maybe gone a little wrong.
I have seen all the other nominees mentioned (and not this turdsandwich). And I'm actually glad for that now
Eeeeeeeh! He's Back! Well Done! :D
EDIT: 18:51 Nooooo
21:38 Your ringtone is still hilarious! 😂😂🤣🤣
Ah, just when I needed some content!
I look forward for Sean to cover Emoji Movie and Holmes and Watson
We always knew Weinstein alone was the reason why the line "worked their way to the top on their knees" was an on going hollywood insult
Them haircut Sean.
Smeghead, assuming you don't already know this, Google Robert Evans and the 1984 movie he produced and made, The Cotton Club. The backstory behind that movie NEEDS a Netflix series based on it...
Yeah, certain films cause studios to go under when they fail, this film, actually, caused a murder, when it failed.
Evans write a memoir in 1994
It was made into a movie in 2002.
@@NJGuy1973 He stayed out of prison, but, none of the other parties did.
I’ve seen people call that the last truly great Francis Ford Coppola movie. (I haven’t seen it.). Maybe he *needs* productions to go disastrously wrong in order to make a masterpiece, as with “Apocalypse Now.”
Which might be a good sign for “Megalopolis,” his long-delayed dream project, which is finally in production.
@@NJGuy1973Evans is a weird guy, but that was a really enjoyable book.
Crying in Gen X 😭😭😭 We're fans too!
25:57 - “A Hard Day’s Night” without the good music, good acting from musicians, good acting from other co-stars, good direction, good script, good comedy, etc.?
I think I can explain the "feminist" joke. Back in the 90s, there was a push to have female characters in EVERYTHING even when the story didn't need them. Every woman had to be a "feminist" in front of the media to look good. Check out 90s ads targeted at women. Feminist cringe with many but look at the women in this movie. Even women called the worst have "feminist" in their bio. Now the one man (scumbag) given the title is outed as one as a way to out him as following a trend to look good to women.
Hope this helps. Also I lived in the 90s and looking back, the media treated handicapped people like the gays of today. Diversity points.
Weird thing is...Joe Eszterhas was always accused of being a perv. They asked him about the rape scene in Basic Instinct and The MeToo movement and he said "It was rough sex" and that he was glad of the feminist movement.
In other words, an extremely dated joke about looking woke in the late nineties (while doing almost nothing behind the scenes to improve the lives of women in Hollywood til it’s too late).
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I lived in the '90s, too. I remember riot grrls and feminist 'zines.
Yes, the movie is attempting to make fun of that. And failing miserably. It's a sub-Friedberg/Seltzer attempt at humor. Simply saying something trendy is not funny.
I love that you still have the Christopher Lloyd ringtone.😂
*I WANNA BE MIKE OVITZ!*
*MICHAEL **_S._** OVITZ!*
"The soundtrack is possibly the worst-ever conceived." Have you forgotten Never Back Down?
Odd, seeing as the great soundtracks, more often find their way into awful films.
He hasn't forgotten, he just chose not to remember.
@@tristanhartup4936 Situationally-convenient amnesia, the worst kind that there is, really bad.
All of Estehauz's films are meant to be inside jokes.
8:43 -- Born in 1978. Any other older peeps a fan of his show?
See my username. I recently read Ovitz' memoirs. Every movie fan should.
Isn't Esterhas the same guy who tried to work with Mel Gibson😵😄😄that is hilariously crazy.
That was a very nice message on the warning screen. Even over a year later, I really needed that. Thank you! The fun review was equally appreciated, as always. 🖤
Happy 125th episode Sean!
Also next time Wild Wild West!
Wonderful as always!!! Thank you.
Chuck D is in this because Burn Hollywood Burn was already the name of a Public Enemy song
Please take care of yourself too, because you also deserve it.