@@davfree9732Pretty much. But to be fair, he always had the habit to go after a single thing and not letting go of it. He did the same with a couple of comic book creators, and while people generally agree with him there, most of them became irrelevant years ago and he keeps on going after the same ones.
A tiny correction. People were worried it was going to be a girlboss movie, and openly admitted it wasn’t when they saw it. Still didn’t save the movie, though.
Still not interested in it. Why would I watch a mad max film without mad max? Also, why trust Hollywood? They have spent a decade marketing and spinning why their films are good, with the sole impression that we owe them to watch all their output… Did it not occur to them that maybe… people don’t need to watch a film if it’s a) not an event and b) isn’t part of a genre they like? Hollywood lost their audience. Simple as, and the audience moved on past Hollywood. The only good news I’ve heard recently is STD isn’t canon.
@@davfree9732 That is fair, to want to see Mad Max in a Mad Max movie, but this a film set in the Mad Max universe, everything that occurs in this universe doesn't necessarily include Mad Max himself. Think of it as Star Wars without Skywalkers. It's a bigger world.
@@PistonHonda87 They needed someone with a penchant for marketing then, because this released in a period where Marvel comics and films chose to go the 'passing the mantle' route instead of allowing heroes to be who they are. Furiosa sounds like the victim of Hollywoods hubris. ... But if this means it also becomes a cult classic then it's in keeping with the original Mad Max. They just need to stop dropping so much money on these films so they can make another one without a high budget restricting the production.
@@davfree9732 You statements is exactly the problem with what the anti woke movement has become. Alot of y'all now just copy and paste the same talking points to things with no critical thinking involved. Furiosa is written and directed by the same person who wrote and directed all of the previous Mad Max films. Their was nothing that indicated it was going to be woke but because the anti woke movement has largely become a bunch of people who hate everything and see any female character as a girlboss regardless if they are or aren't. To put it another way the anti woke movement is starting to become as brain dead as the woke movement.
It is going to take the industry a long time to earn back viewers trust when making strong female characters. This movie is a pretty good example on how to do it right.
Agreed. I experience people bitching about "strong whamen" Woke LGBTQ+ Postmodernist movies just because it has a female hero(ine). It's annoying as fuck and shows many people don't understand what actually defines that which they think they're hating.
The lack of marketing hints at them not believe in this movie. Then there’s the title. No Max in a Mad Max film will not draw people in. Just look at the no Spidey movies without Spidey.
@@ChocolateCylon it wasn't a lack of marketing, you could see an advert for it five times in an hour on RUclips the week leading up to and through the first week of release. It was the poor marketing of setting an expectation of seeing Mad Max without showing Mad Max. It's why it was a mistake to call it A Mad Max Saga.
@ on RUclips based on algorithms? Sure. I know many people who didn’t know this was a thing. I hardly saw ads myself. But in the end, what’s done is done.
Furiosa feels like a film that would’ve and should’ve come out back in 2015. It was so good and Anya Taylor Joy was great and Chris Hemsworth was just glorious as Dementus.😊
To me, Furiosa and Fury Road before it, feels like a movie made by a director who has returned to what worked for him in the past after nothing worked for him after the three Mad Max movies. George Miller pretty much faded back into the background after the Mad Max movies and in what I see as a desperate move, decided to revisit the Mad Max world with Fury Road: a movie that didn't have much to do with Mad Max, who's role almost feels tacked on later to justify the movie being a Mad Max movie. That movie was received surprisingly well and Miller set out to continue with Furiosa. Now Mad Max isn't even present anymore, because this movie acts as the prequel to Fury Road, while the timelines largely overlap, so Max should have been there. In my opinion this is franchise milking Ridely Scott style, only George Miller makes far more coherent movies.
this movie flopped because people simply don't trust Hollywood anymore. They saw a female protagonist, assumed the movie would be bad and ran for the hills.
Not only that but it was a Mad Max movie without Max ... and a prequel to Fury Road with that on top. This was a movie that should had come when Fury Road was still on people's mind, not 9 years later and I know the studios would love a "Mad Max Universe", especially with Mel Gibson being old but very honestly here, Mad Max was a product of its time when we all kinda expected the world to turn into nuclear fire (even if Mad Max was more about living in the Outback with the post-apocalyptic coming on the later movies) and it was very much a product of its time, that time is gone now, its a cultural time capsule and should be left alone, I might sound weird but I am happy it flopped since then they will leave it alone instead of dragging it in hopes of cashing more money.
@@drakron fact if this movie came right after the first movie, people would gone send it and plus most people wouldn't go see a prequel without the main character to
We just might..? 🤷♂️ I was ready to hate it because of no Mel Gibson… I was wrong.. I didn’t go see furiosa because of said videos 💩💩 on it.. They were wrong. I’ve watched both films multiple times. I thought the same of the Flash films. 🤷♂️
The complaining over this movie revealed how little fans knew about the development/production absolute hell that plagued Fury Road, Furiosa and (will likely never happen) The Wasteland
The film is good. But there are two problems with it: 1. the trailer made it look like a girl boss movie (which turned a lot of the audience away). 2. George Miller decided to make a film on a side character who, frankly, was only as interesting as she was in Fury Road. She didn't need a prequel story, because she wasn't interesting enough to have a prequel story just for her (and no, she didn't need a prequel any more than Goose, Lord Humongous, Auntie Entity or any other side character did). A lot of people I've discussed this with shared the same criticism of Furiosa not needing a prequel story because she was only interesting in Fury Road, but not enough to need a prequel.
I disagree with you in that she wasn't interesting enough to warrant a movie of her own. You could clearly see she had a rich backstory from the hints in Fury Road, so it was an interesting idea to show us how she got there and at the same time show us more of the world of Mad Max.
@@leriava You're welcome to disagree. However, part of her backstory (as well as Max's, Nux's, Immortan Joe's, Furiosa and even the War Rig) was covered in the prequel comics that was released. Yet, no one ever talks about them (and the only time I've ever seen any mention any of them was a fan film adaptation of Max's prequel comic, "Mad Max: Hope and Glory" by Brightstone Pictures). But, as I've said, most of people I've talked to about it only found Furiosa interesting as the side-character of Fury Road like others that were featured in the past Mad Max films and not enough to want to see a stand-alone film with her. But those willing to give it a chance, myself included, have said it was a pretty good film.
I agree. Her character in Fury Road was well fleshed out: green place, hard life, wise mom, tough mentors, all that makes her rebel against wrong...got it. A prequel that unpacks all of that is like someone unpacking their entire suitcase for you after they already told you they have packed for the trip.
@@leriavaThe problem is that Fury Road already told her story. A prequel can only add more details, but we already know her story in more than enough detail to under the resolution to her story. Her story is told from her abduction in the green to her victory over Immortan Joe in Fury Road. There is no real mystery to her character left after Fury Road and even her future is kind of tied to the new matriarchy she starts there. I don’t say that the movie isn’t good as I never watched it, but there is simply a lack of interest here due to how her story was told in Fury Road. PS: The studio imo failed to sell Dementus, because that would have been the interesting story/character to sell the movie on. But instead the trailer showed him as some easily defeated goon that’s at best a dumb side character. … after having seen the trailer, I still can’t believe that Dementus is supposed to be the main villain of the movie.
There was nothing in the trailers that made her look like a girlboss. No Holdo insults, no Carol Danvers smugness. At the most she looked too scrawny for a cutthroat apocalyptic setting
Small correction: it wasn’t „people“ claiming that it was a girl boss movie, it was the studio and its trailer that marketed it as a girl boss movie. Pretty much all movie reviewers I saw back then liked it, and that definitely includes guys like Critical Drinker or Nerdrotic, but the trailer destroyed any remaining interest I could ever have had, so I never watched it anyway. PS: the storyline that „alt-right reviewers ruined Furiosa’s chance at success“ ignores a lot of the marketing back then and even the fact that Fury Road wasn’t a really successful movie to begin with.
We're in a transitional phase. People who recognized the pattern of woke, 3rd-wave-feminist girlboss content saw this movie continuing that pattern and judged accordingly. We don't trust movies with female leads yet, and we will remain suspicious of them until _after_ Hollywood gets its shit together. It's kinda stupid to expect us to judge a movie based solely on its merits after ten fucking years of girlboss trash.
I’m in the opposite camp. I hadn’t heard criticisms of ‘Fury Road” and went in hoping to see more of Max even if he was recast. What i got was Furiosa, a character i didn’t care about and a story that didn’t make sense or fit in with the previous Mad Max movie timelines. I walked out of that movie bitterly disappointed and there was no way I was going to spend another 2 hours of my life on this character. Male, female, I don’t care.
I knew that Furiosa wasn't going to be a girl-boss or MarySue even before the film came out. You only have to look at her situation in Fury Road. She's basically a prisoner, even if treated well. She's been taken from her home and, at some point, lost her arm. Whatever positive things she's gotten in life, she's paid for them, and, even without knowing her full history, it's likely that she's had more losses than gains. I enjoyed the film. I do have some criticisms, but they are more on the technical side. While Fury Road used a little CGI enhancement, it was pretty much 99% practical effects. Furiosa had a lot more CGI used in its settings. It also had a lot more "artsy" shots in its cinematography, which I'm not sure worked that well as often as the filmmakers thought they might.
The movie was 10 years too late because there is no current interest for a side character from a franchise that started in the '80s and only has a few movies. The movie was 10 years too late because anyone seeing a female protagonist in an action movie will dismiss it immediately, based on the recognized pattern from the last decade.
For me, the fact that it's a prequel killed my interest. That defuses all the narrative tension knowing the character will end up in a movie directly after this one. I still don't have any drive to see Furiosa to this day, even though I loved Fury Road. I never cared about any "girlboss" crap other people were spouting off about, it just didn't spark my interest like Fury Road did.
the marketing told everyone it was a girl boss movie. at a time that almost everybody was tired of girl boss movies, thats why nobody gave it a chance. i wouldn't call it a prediction or the fault of youtubers labelling it a girl boss movie when the marketing told people what they wanted people to think that it was. and watching the movie then realising the marketing outright misrepresented the movie isn't hypocrisy.
FURIOSA is a good film... but it falls far short of the greatness of every other MAD MAX film. The choices George Miller made here also make it look and feel as though someone else entirely wrote and directed it.
Men historically have discovered the remotest places of the earth over a few centuries but these guys can't find "the green place". That's the kind of thing that puts off.
Men wirh resources discover places. Nobody knows about the Green Place and the people who live in the Green Place actively make sure that no outsider learns off this.
@@godking That may be the backstory, but it beggars belief that no one can find it but people still live there. It isn't plausible. One of the important elements of good fiction is that you can imagine the world based on your own world, and you can extrapolate a lot of things because of that. This just doesn't work for me. Plus, we all know women can't not talk. The idea that no woman has ever tipped her hand about the location is another deep implausibility. I say this as a woman.
@@darthlaurel The people in the Green Place don't trade with others and kill those who find them. Furiosa is the only known member who has travelled (unwillingly) from the Green Place . Furiosa is the only one living who knows the Green Place existed and where it was . The Green Place from what i can tell is in a pretty secluded place far from normal travel routes . People do/did discover new places but most travel was for trade along established routes places far from the established routes can go undiscovered for a long time.
I truly will not understand why they didn’t just CONTINUE her story instead of going BACKWARDS. Why? I was very invested on what would happen next and they were just like “you know what? Let’s make an ORIGIN STORY!” 😑 It makes no sense. Especially when you realize that all of this stuff she was doing was basically pointless because of the first movie showing us that the “green place” was GONE
Honestly, I thought this film should've been a mini series, which would've had the time to expand on the single plot shards, as in my opinion it didn't work as a congruent story. About half way in I didn't care for any of the characters anymore, as it didn't feel like a natural progression for any of the characters...
For me it's really simple. I really liked Fury Road, I like Tom as Max, Tom signed for 3 movies. Next movie announced was without Tom and not about Max. If they had announced Max was done and it's now a 'Tales of the Wasteland' series or an announcement for the next Max movie at the same time as the Furiosa one, it would have been different. Something about expectations on what a Mad MAX movie 'should' be.
5:12 this part of the movie bugs the hell out of me. She goes through the trouble of cutting her hair to get away and pretending to be a war boy only to let her hair grow back out all super long then cutting it all off again... Why not just keep it cut short?
I never understood the hate that it got. I've got all of the MM films and of course I had to see this one too, and honestly, it was a good film. Like you said, solid action, but sadly, I agree that it came too late.
Dementus is at turns funny, evil, pathetic, and pitiable. He knows how to win a prize, or lead men, but can't keep either in the long term. He really does seem to wish that Furiosa would become some kind of surrogate daughter to him, but he can't get that, either. He tortures people to death, but it almost doesn't seem so much to be some sort of act of sadistic glee as a sense that this is what wasteland warlords are supposed to do. Ultimately, it seems like he wants to die just so he'll stop disappointing everyone.
I watched it like a week ago... I found it to have A LOT of things that made NO SENSE AT ALL. Like how her mom goes on the bike without goggles into the dust storms and many little things like that and it made it hard to stay in immersed in it.
Yes, the long wait between Fury Road and Furiosa was what doomed it because it was a big hit in 2015. However, the self-flaggelation Hollywood went through post-MeToo essentially poisoned female-focused films since they were often a mess of poorly executed Girl Power nonsense. I think if George Miller wanted to get back in the swing of things and drum up interest in his Furiosa story, he should've done a movie following Max, as Mad Max is the main character of the Mad Max saga. He can be as infatuated with Furiosa as he wants, but she doesn't have the cultural notoriety to draw in a crowd like Max. Either he should've done another film with Tom Hardy or, even better, finish Max's story with Mel Gibson.
I only saw people worry about it being a girl boss movie before release, which is completely reasonable given that it's current year and having a female lead on a traditionally male led IP is a massive red flag for DEI. I ended up watching it and it was fine, but not particularly interesting. Ultimately it's still a spin off from a main series and I found it difficult to care about Anya's character beyond the aesthetic and action scenes I'm used to from Max Mad.
I actually liked this movie, if more female characters were written like this, we wouldn't be having the girl boss conversation. My main complaint about the film is how much time they spent on Furiosa child arc. They spent 50 min on it when it should have been 20-25 minutes then used the rest of that time towards developing her relation with her new home, the war rig driver, Joe etc. I just rewatched this movie today, what a coincidence.
I think the problem was the subtitle - A Mad Max Saga. Didn't have Max in it. Therefore it just looked like another replace the stupid man with a better woman. Audiences are generally tired of this movement. The trust is gone that the story will be executed well.
Or, you know, a "Mad Max saga" also gives the idea that it's set in the world of Mad Max, as it is known. Just like Rogue One or Solo, which had the tagline "A Star Wars story"
@leriava Not wrong. But the odd thing is that there has never been a consistent MM world. It was never explained what specifically was collapsing in the first movie to bring about the end of society. Or how the first got to the second or third installments. Once heard Max described as Dr Who with a shotgun. Thought that fitted. Still think you need him in the movie for it to work.
I saw it in the theater and the only issue I had was a very overweight woman in the background of the green place paradise near the beginning. I'm not sure how that one person managed to get morbidly obese. Otherwise I thought the movie was just as good as the first three
Gloriosa is how I would describe it too; I watched it a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't stop thinking that if this film came out before Fury Road, it would have been perfect; I also read somewhere it flopped, what a shame
I think it's awesome. Cinema snobs had a lot to criticise about the effects and playing time but I could live with that minor flaws. Just compare it to other modern action spectacles and you see how it blows the competition out of the water.
Mad Max Bible is a good channel to watch if you don't already know about the behind-the-scenes chaos affecting the new Mad Max series. Considering Furiosa's failure and George Miller's age, the 2015 video game completes the "Wasteland" trilogy that started with Fury Road
Yep.. especially the first scene where you see the utopia she came from with wind turbines and glorious nature.. and the girl bosses female control the society she lives in.. not saying that its a bad thing if that what the story wants to tell but seriously I rule with eyes and thought “ okay so this what happens if you recycle some of the Hobbit stuff and some commercial clips from Scandinavia about wind turbines in one take.. sorry for being rude but that was kinda laughable or something like that…!
A Mad Max Saga...this shouldn't have been the tagline if Mad Max wasn't the main character. Moreover, Anya Taylor-Joy doesn't even resembles Charlize Theron, just compare their lips and eyes
Are RUclips trying to pass old videos off as new? Pretty sure I've seen this one before, and quite a few others from content providers that are being listed as new.
It failed because it’s a Mad Max film without Mad Max. Not even hardcore Max fans asked for this lol. I saw it because I liked Fury Road but it wasn’t as good.
the film has some issues, like the opening setting makes no sence on account of theres a lack of defences in the green place, or the lack of hunting, or the lack of the entire war except for when she goes after the bad guy. Also Chris Hemsworth tries and hes not bad buy I feel absolutely no feer when the antagonist is on screen, things feel a lot of the time like they are happening because they need to happen and not for any other reason, I think the car lift scene should have had a bit more danger added. I feel like Furiosa would have made more sence if she wasnt brought directly to the rock and instead she should have escaped, done her own thing for a while, joined as a standalone character in an alliance and then chosen to do things about the brides on her own, making her a bride is a no tention situation for me it would have made more sence if it were more like Mila Kunis in book of Eli, making your way true the apocalypse equals danger, Also the how mothers not having any affection for their children thing felt hollow, like it wasnt set up properly it just felt a little bit goofy to me
My issue with the trailer wasn’t with the female lead. What put me off was the flat looking cgi and obvious green screen, it felt jarring and too clean compared to the first.
Mel said during fury road .. hes just to old for this sht anymore. Specifically, he said hes way to old to be jumping off moving trucks anymore :) And I doubt hes gotten fitter since then. So I dont think we will see original Max anymore.
I was hesitant because it had the standard modern girl boss red flags, but I had not actually seen fury road, I had zero bias and I very much enjoyed it and it made me want to go watch fury road I always heard good of fury road but I never got around to watching it
The JSG Furiosa review: 7 months too late
Wasn’t this the film that broke YaBoiZacks brain?
Seriously im just here to leave a like and comment out of respect lol 😅
I think this is a repost
@@rangav248I definitely recall hearing bits of this video
@@davfree9732Pretty much. But to be fair, he always had the habit to go after a single thing and not letting go of it. He did the same with a couple of comic book creators, and while people generally agree with him there, most of them became irrelevant years ago and he keeps on going after the same ones.
A tiny correction. People were worried it was going to be a girlboss movie, and openly admitted it wasn’t when they saw it. Still didn’t save the movie, though.
Still not interested in it. Why would I watch a mad max film without mad max?
Also, why trust Hollywood? They have spent a decade marketing and spinning why their films are good, with the sole impression that we owe them to watch all their output…
Did it not occur to them that maybe… people don’t need to watch a film if it’s a) not an event and b) isn’t part of a genre they like?
Hollywood lost their audience. Simple as, and the audience moved on past Hollywood. The only good news I’ve heard recently is STD isn’t canon.
@@davfree9732 That is fair, to want to see Mad Max in a Mad Max movie, but this a film set in the Mad Max universe, everything that occurs in this universe doesn't necessarily include Mad Max himself.
Think of it as Star Wars without Skywalkers. It's a bigger world.
@@PistonHonda87 They needed someone with a penchant for marketing then, because this released in a period where Marvel comics and films chose to go the 'passing the mantle' route instead of allowing heroes to be who they are. Furiosa sounds like the victim of Hollywoods hubris.
... But if this means it also becomes a cult classic then it's in keeping with the original Mad Max. They just need to stop dropping so much money on these films so they can make another one without a high budget restricting the production.
Mid-ass ip from the early 80s.
@@davfree9732
You statements is exactly the problem with what the anti woke movement has become.
Alot of y'all now just copy and paste the same talking points to things with no critical thinking involved.
Furiosa is written and directed by the same person who wrote and directed all of the previous Mad Max films. Their was nothing that indicated it was going to be woke but because the anti woke movement has largely become a bunch of people who hate everything and see any female character as a girlboss regardless if they are or aren't.
To put it another way the anti woke movement is starting to become as brain dead as the woke movement.
It is going to take the industry a long time to earn back viewers trust when making strong female characters. This movie is a pretty good example on how to do it right.
Sooooo true
The first Wonder Woman movie was a good example too.
Agreed. I experience people bitching about "strong whamen" Woke LGBTQ+ Postmodernist movies just because it has a female hero(ine).
It's annoying as fuck and shows many people don't understand what actually defines that which they think they're hating.
@@SajuukSo what is the correct definition?
@@peterdickinson4599anything that doesn’t feel like a human is the wrong way.
I never knew or saw a single person say they wanted a Furiosa prequel other than Miller.
The marketing didn't help. They should've used A Wasteland Saga instead of A Mad Max Saga.
The lack of marketing hints at them not believe in this movie. Then there’s the title. No Max in a Mad Max film will not draw people in. Just look at the no Spidey movies without Spidey.
Exactly 2 Mad Max movies not about Mad Max Who the fck wants to see that sht. Fury Road pissed me off because of that
@@ChocolateCylon it wasn't a lack of marketing, you could see an advert for it five times in an hour on RUclips the week leading up to and through the first week of release. It was the poor marketing of setting an expectation of seeing Mad Max without showing Mad Max. It's why it was a mistake to call it A Mad Max Saga.
@ on RUclips based on algorithms? Sure. I know many people who didn’t know this was a thing. I hardly saw ads myself. But in the end, what’s done is done.
This is hilarious. I literally just watched this myself and finished it 5 minutes before opening my phone and seeing this posted.
What'd you think of the movie?
Furiosa feels like a film that would’ve and should’ve come out back in 2015. It was so good and Anya Taylor Joy was great and Chris Hemsworth was just glorious as Dementus.😊
Agree completely! I even liked the anthology structure. And I didn't notice DEI.
A good movie is good regardless of the year.
To me, Furiosa and Fury Road before it, feels like a movie made by a director who has returned to what worked for him in the past after nothing worked for him after the three Mad Max movies. George Miller pretty much faded back into the background after the Mad Max movies and in what I see as a desperate move, decided to revisit the Mad Max world with Fury Road: a movie that didn't have much to do with Mad Max, who's role almost feels tacked on later to justify the movie being a Mad Max movie. That movie was received surprisingly well and Miller set out to continue with Furiosa. Now Mad Max isn't even present anymore, because this movie acts as the prequel to Fury Road, while the timelines largely overlap, so Max should have been there.
In my opinion this is franchise milking Ridely Scott style, only George Miller makes far more coherent movies.
Correction, it feels like a film that shouldn't have come out at all.
@@ancientnpc Ok but I still liked it
this movie flopped because people simply don't trust Hollywood anymore. They saw a female protagonist, assumed the movie would be bad and ran for the hills.
Basically. And yet it turned out to be a good film that most didn't watch. Also because it came out nearly a decade after the last one.
Not only that but it was a Mad Max movie without Max ... and a prequel to Fury Road with that on top.
This was a movie that should had come when Fury Road was still on people's mind, not 9 years later and I know the studios would love a "Mad Max Universe", especially with Mel Gibson being old but very honestly here, Mad Max was a product of its time when we all kinda expected the world to turn into nuclear fire (even if Mad Max was more about living in the Outback with the post-apocalyptic coming on the later movies) and it was very much a product of its time, that time is gone now, its a cultural time capsule and should be left alone, I might sound weird but I am happy it flopped since then they will leave it alone instead of dragging it in hopes of cashing more money.
@@drakronMax is in the Furiosa movie. He saved her life after she escaped from Dementia
of this is just another gender swap Degeneracy movie and Fury Road was a Stepping stone to introduce a female lead in future movies
@@drakron fact if this movie came right after the first movie, people would gone send it and plus most people wouldn't go see a prequel without the main character to
I really, really wish we got a sequel to Fury Road with Tom Hardy.
We just might..? 🤷♂️
I was ready to hate it because of no Mel Gibson… I was wrong..
I didn’t go see furiosa because of said videos 💩💩 on it.. They were wrong.
I’ve watched both films multiple times.
I thought the same of the Flash films. 🤷♂️
The complaining over this movie revealed how little fans knew about the development/production absolute hell that plagued Fury Road, Furiosa and (will likely never happen) The Wasteland
The film is good. But there are two problems with it: 1. the trailer made it look like a girl boss movie (which turned a lot of the audience away). 2. George Miller decided to make a film on a side character who, frankly, was only as interesting as she was in Fury Road. She didn't need a prequel story, because she wasn't interesting enough to have a prequel story just for her (and no, she didn't need a prequel any more than Goose, Lord Humongous, Auntie Entity or any other side character did). A lot of people I've discussed this with shared the same criticism of Furiosa not needing a prequel story because she was only interesting in Fury Road, but not enough to need a prequel.
I disagree with you in that she wasn't interesting enough to warrant a movie of her own. You could clearly see she had a rich backstory from the hints in Fury Road, so it was an interesting idea to show us how she got there and at the same time show us more of the world of Mad Max.
@@leriava You're welcome to disagree. However, part of her backstory (as well as Max's, Nux's, Immortan Joe's, Furiosa and even the War Rig) was covered in the prequel comics that was released. Yet, no one ever talks about them (and the only time I've ever seen any mention any of them was a fan film adaptation of Max's prequel comic, "Mad Max: Hope and Glory" by Brightstone Pictures). But, as I've said, most of people I've talked to about it only found Furiosa interesting as the side-character of Fury Road like others that were featured in the past Mad Max films and not enough to want to see a stand-alone film with her. But those willing to give it a chance, myself included, have said it was a pretty good film.
I agree. Her character in Fury Road was well fleshed out: green place, hard life, wise mom, tough mentors, all that makes her rebel against wrong...got it.
A prequel that unpacks all of that is like someone unpacking their entire suitcase for you after they already told you they have packed for the trip.
@@leriavaThe problem is that Fury Road already told her story. A prequel can only add more details, but we already know her story in more than enough detail to under the resolution to her story. Her story is told from her abduction in the green to her victory over Immortan Joe in Fury Road. There is no real mystery to her character left after Fury Road and even her future is kind of tied to the new matriarchy she starts there.
I don’t say that the movie isn’t good as I never watched it, but there is simply a lack of interest here due to how her story was told in Fury Road.
PS: The studio imo failed to sell Dementus, because that would have been the interesting story/character to sell the movie on. But instead the trailer showed him as some easily defeated goon that’s at best a dumb side character. … after having seen the trailer, I still can’t believe that Dementus is supposed to be the main villain of the movie.
There was nothing in the trailers that made her look like a girlboss. No Holdo insults, no Carol Danvers smugness. At the most she looked too scrawny for a cutthroat apocalyptic setting
Furiosa is actually tge victim of the girl boss. Not only marketed as girl boss, released during girl boss.
Small correction: it wasn’t „people“ claiming that it was a girl boss movie, it was the studio and its trailer that marketed it as a girl boss movie. Pretty much all movie reviewers I saw back then liked it, and that definitely includes guys like Critical Drinker or Nerdrotic, but the trailer destroyed any remaining interest I could ever have had, so I never watched it anyway.
PS: the storyline that „alt-right reviewers ruined Furiosa’s chance at success“ ignores a lot of the marketing back then and even the fact that Fury Road wasn’t a really successful movie to begin with.
Thank you.
We're in a transitional phase. People who recognized the pattern of woke, 3rd-wave-feminist girlboss content saw this movie continuing that pattern and judged accordingly. We don't trust movies with female leads yet, and we will remain suspicious of them until _after_ Hollywood gets its shit together. It's kinda stupid to expect us to judge a movie based solely on its merits after ten fucking years of girlboss trash.
It was a Mad Max movie…without Mad Max.
Exactly
Enjoyed it myself , not as good as road but still a solid action flick. love chris in this "Where are you going? so full of hope!" there is NO HOPE!"
Fury Road was way more than ten years late.
Is crazy how the audience change.
I’m in the opposite camp. I hadn’t heard criticisms of ‘Fury Road” and went in hoping to see more of Max even if he was recast. What i got was Furiosa, a character i didn’t care about and a story that didn’t make sense or fit in with the previous Mad Max movie timelines. I walked out of that movie bitterly disappointed and there was no way I was going to spend another 2 hours of my life on this character. Male, female, I don’t care.
I knew that Furiosa wasn't going to be a girl-boss or MarySue even before the film came out. You only have to look at her situation in Fury Road. She's basically a prisoner, even if treated well. She's been taken from her home and, at some point, lost her arm. Whatever positive things she's gotten in life, she's paid for them, and, even without knowing her full history, it's likely that she's had more losses than gains.
I enjoyed the film. I do have some criticisms, but they are more on the technical side. While Fury Road used a little CGI enhancement, it was pretty much 99% practical effects. Furiosa had a lot more CGI used in its settings. It also had a lot more "artsy" shots in its cinematography, which I'm not sure worked that well as often as the filmmakers thought they might.
The movie was 10 years too late because there is no current interest for a side character from a franchise that started in the '80s and only has a few movies.
The movie was 10 years too late because anyone seeing a female protagonist in an action movie will dismiss it immediately, based on the recognized pattern from the last decade.
That’s craaazy, I literally just watched it tonight on a whim after having put it off for ages and now I see this
You're the 2nd person to comment this here.. weird
For me, the fact that it's a prequel killed my interest. That defuses all the narrative tension knowing the character will end up in a movie directly after this one. I still don't have any drive to see Furiosa to this day, even though I loved Fury Road. I never cared about any "girlboss" crap other people were spouting off about, it just didn't spark my interest like Fury Road did.
Fun movie, just watched it as well. The issue is Hollywood did this. They eroded all trust.
the marketing told everyone it was a girl boss movie. at a time that almost everybody was tired of girl boss movies, thats why nobody gave it a chance.
i wouldn't call it a prediction or the fault of youtubers labelling it a girl boss movie when the marketing told people what they wanted people to think that it was.
and watching the movie then realising the marketing outright misrepresented the movie isn't hypocrisy.
FURIOSA is a good film... but it falls far short of the greatness of every other MAD MAX film. The choices George Miller made here also make it look and feel as though someone else entirely wrote and directed it.
Good content must be entertaining and timeless.
Soooooo true.
And tell a good story with good well-written characters.
Thank you. I agree.
Men historically have discovered the remotest places of the earth over a few centuries but these guys can't find "the green place".
That's the kind of thing that puts off.
Men wirh resources discover places. Nobody knows about the Green Place and the people who live in the Green Place actively make sure that no outsider learns off this.
@@godking That may be the backstory, but it beggars belief that no one can find it but people still live there. It isn't plausible. One of the important elements of good fiction is that you can imagine the world based on your own world, and you can extrapolate a lot of things because of that. This just doesn't work for me. Plus, we all know women can't not talk. The idea that no woman has ever tipped her hand about the location is another deep implausibility. I say this as a woman.
@@darthlaurel The people in the Green Place don't trade with others and kill those who find them. Furiosa is the only known member who has travelled (unwillingly) from the Green Place . Furiosa is the only one living who knows the Green Place existed and where it was . The Green Place from what i can tell is in a pretty secluded place far from normal travel routes . People do/did discover new places but most travel was for trade along established routes places far from the established routes can go undiscovered for a long time.
Am I having a stroke? I thought he released this video months ago.
Yeah, I remember commenting on the same video back in November.
He made a Mad Max film that doesn't have Mad Max....
It bombed because they made 2 Mad max movies one where Max is a side character and the other one where max is not in it
New year and we’ve got more just some guy vids. We eating this year
I truly will not understand why they didn’t just CONTINUE her story instead of going BACKWARDS. Why? I was very invested on what would happen next and they were just like “you know what? Let’s make an ORIGIN STORY!” 😑 It makes no sense. Especially when you realize that all of this stuff she was doing was basically pointless because of the first movie showing us that the “green place” was GONE
Honestly, I thought this film should've been a mini series, which would've had the time to expand on the single plot shards, as in my opinion it didn't work as a congruent story. About half way in I didn't care for any of the characters anymore, as it didn't feel like a natural progression for any of the characters...
Sod anime, Mad Max fans want old mel gibson redemption story.
For me it's really simple.
I really liked Fury Road, I like Tom as Max, Tom signed for 3 movies. Next movie announced was without Tom and not about Max.
If they had announced Max was done and it's now a 'Tales of the Wasteland' series or an announcement for the next Max movie at the same time as the Furiosa one, it would have been different.
Something about expectations on what a Mad MAX movie 'should' be.
It was really good Back to back.
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People changing their opinions when they realize they were wrong is a good thing.
Nah...I'm GOOD!!! Hollywood will NEVER get my MONEY!!!
5:12 this part of the movie bugs the hell out of me. She goes through the trouble of cutting her hair to get away and pretending to be a war boy only to let her hair grow back out all super long then cutting it all off again... Why not just keep it cut short?
They should have hired JSG to make the trailer.
Saw this film while on plane home from San Diego. Definitely a great film and it's a shame that it took so long to come out.
I never understood the hate that it got. I've got all of the MM films and of course I had to see this one too, and honestly, it was a good film. Like you said, solid action, but sadly, I agree that it came too late.
Liked Anna Taylor Joy better than Chalreze Theron as she looked more like a sci fi character
How often I heard this, or that movie is not for me.
Dementus is at turns funny, evil, pathetic, and pitiable. He knows how to win a prize, or lead men, but can't keep either in the long term. He really does seem to wish that Furiosa would become some kind of surrogate daughter to him, but he can't get that, either. He tortures people to death, but it almost doesn't seem so much to be some sort of act of sadistic glee as a sense that this is what wasteland warlords are supposed to do. Ultimately, it seems like he wants to die just so he'll stop disappointing everyone.
This video: 8 months too late
I watched it like a week ago... I found it to have A LOT of things that made NO SENSE AT ALL. Like how her mom goes on the bike without goggles into the dust storms and many little things like that and it made it hard to stay in immersed in it.
Oh dear..no need for goggles when the sand is cgi 😂
Yes, the long wait between Fury Road and Furiosa was what doomed it because it was a big hit in 2015. However, the self-flaggelation Hollywood went through post-MeToo essentially poisoned female-focused films since they were often a mess of poorly executed Girl Power nonsense.
I think if George Miller wanted to get back in the swing of things and drum up interest in his Furiosa story, he should've done a movie following Max, as Mad Max is the main character of the Mad Max saga. He can be as infatuated with Furiosa as he wants, but she doesn't have the cultural notoriety to draw in a crowd like Max. Either he should've done another film with Tom Hardy or, even better, finish Max's story with Mel Gibson.
I only saw people worry about it being a girl boss movie before release, which is completely reasonable given that it's current year and having a female lead on a traditionally male led IP is a massive red flag for DEI.
I ended up watching it and it was fine, but not particularly interesting. Ultimately it's still a spin off from a main series and I found it difficult to care about Anya's character beyond the aesthetic and action scenes I'm used to from Max Mad.
What killed the movie was you made a mad max movie with no mad max.
I actually liked this movie, if more female characters were written like this, we wouldn't be having the girl boss conversation.
My main complaint about the film is how much time they spent on Furiosa child arc. They spent 50 min on it when it should have been 20-25 minutes then used the rest of that time towards developing her relation with her new home, the war rig driver, Joe etc.
I just rewatched this movie today, what a coincidence.
is this a reupload?
A Mad Max movie without Mad Max is a no from me dawg.
I think the problem was the subtitle - A Mad Max Saga. Didn't have Max in it. Therefore it just looked like another replace the stupid man with a better woman. Audiences are generally tired of this movement. The trust is gone that the story will be executed well.
Or, you know, a "Mad Max saga" also gives the idea that it's set in the world of Mad Max, as it is known. Just like Rogue One or Solo, which had the tagline "A Star Wars story"
@leriava Not wrong. But the odd thing is that there has never been a consistent MM world. It was never explained what specifically was collapsing in the first movie to bring about the end of society. Or how the first got to the second or third installments. Once heard Max described as Dr Who with a shotgun. Thought that fitted. Still think you need him in the movie for it to work.
I saw it in the theater and the only issue I had was a very overweight woman in the background of the green place paradise near the beginning. I'm not sure how that one person managed to get morbidly obese. Otherwise I thought the movie was just as good as the first three
I swear we saw this video already
Gloriosa is how I would describe it too; I watched it a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't stop thinking that if this film came out before Fury Road, it would have been perfect; I also read somewhere it flopped, what a shame
I think it's awesome. Cinema snobs had a lot to criticise about the effects and playing time but I could live with that minor flaws.
Just compare it to other modern action spectacles and you see how it blows the competition out of the water.
Mad Max Bible is a good channel to watch if you don't already know about the behind-the-scenes chaos affecting the new Mad Max series. Considering Furiosa's failure and George Miller's age, the 2015 video game completes the "Wasteland" trilogy that started with Fury Road
Excellent film. Very underrated
Truth: nobody cared. No one criticized or praised it. It was just something nobody asked for, nobody was interested in. With an awful casting and CGI.
It was decent/good enough in the end but we need more movies like this that are entertaining.
I saw praise for the movie … but as you said, I didn’t really care enough to watch it.
Still was a girl boss movie
Yep.. especially the first scene where you see the utopia she came from with wind turbines and glorious nature.. and the girl bosses female control the society she lives in.. not saying that its a bad thing if that what the story wants to tell but seriously I rule with eyes and thought “ okay so this what happens if you recycle some of the Hobbit stuff and some commercial clips from Scandinavia about wind turbines in one take.. sorry for being rude but that was kinda laughable or something like that…!
A Mad Max Saga...this shouldn't have been the tagline if Mad Max wasn't the main character. Moreover, Anya Taylor-Joy doesn't even resembles Charlize Theron, just compare their lips and eyes
Fury Road was a better version
Saw this a few days ago, 7/10, 30-40mins too long.
Just watched it on Netflix. I'd give it a 8/10. Pretty good.
Nobody claimed it was a girl boss movie,even "anti-woke" people said it was good,that manufactured hate you have isn't called for
Well put, 10 years too late because I don't care about this IP now.
Funny how a Mad Max movie with out Mad Max would do poorly....
Its not a mad max movie hence the name Furiosa.
Honestly, I'm with you man, it was a solid movie and I actually liked Chris Hemsworth as Dementus and Anna as Furiosa. Good movie 👍
Is this a re-upload, I feel like I'm having a stroke?
My only problem for Furiosa forehead looks CGI to me and that felt weird for me
Am I having Deja Vu, or is this re-upload?
I saw this before.
This a reupload?
I think so haha. Prob copystriked.
I think we watched two different movies. I also wasn't a fan of the Fury Road movie either so maybe I'm not the audience your talking too.
She was a very unbelievable character , i could not buy that bullshit brother
Completely agree I enjoyed this movie. Hope this doesn't kill the Mad Max universe going foward 😢. Great vid JSG.
Me and my sister watch this on HBO Max and all I can say is it's an okay film.
reupload? or am I misremembering?
Reupload?
Didn’t you release this video a few months ago. I remember it cause it was the first actual positive review for it.
It was a Girl Boss movie. Just one that was done properly.
Why do you need to narrate the entire story? Just talk about your thoughts on the film without spoiling it for people have not seen it.
I regret not going to the theaters for this one, not perfect, has 2 massive plot wholes, but I haven't enjoyed a new film in a long time.
Are RUclips trying to pass old videos off as new? Pretty sure I've seen this one before, and quite a few others from content providers that are being listed as new.
It was a super fun movie. I didn't see it in the theater for the same reason. Too bad, I fell for the negativity.
It was ok
It failed because it’s a Mad Max film without Mad Max. Not even hardcore Max fans asked for this lol. I saw it because I liked Fury Road but it wasn’t as good.
Is this a re-upload?
the film has some issues, like the opening setting makes no sence on account of theres a lack of defences in the green place, or the lack of hunting, or the lack of the entire war except for when she goes after the bad guy. Also Chris Hemsworth tries and hes not bad buy I feel absolutely no feer when the antagonist is on screen, things feel a lot of the time like they are happening because they need to happen and not for any other reason, I think the car lift scene should have had a bit more danger added.
I feel like Furiosa would have made more sence if she wasnt brought directly to the rock and instead she should have escaped, done her own thing for a while, joined as a standalone character in an alliance and then chosen to do things about the brides on her own, making her a bride is a no tention situation for me it would have made more sence if it were more like Mila Kunis in book of Eli, making your way true the apocalypse equals danger,
Also the how mothers not having any affection for their children thing felt hollow, like it wasnt set up properly it just felt a little bit goofy to me
AI confirmed
I blame the marketing mostly.
My issue with the trailer wasn’t with the female lead.
What put me off was the flat looking cgi and obvious green screen, it felt jarring and too clean compared to the first.
Mel said during fury road .. hes just to old for this sht anymore. Specifically, he said hes way to old to be jumping off moving trucks anymore :) And I doubt hes gotten fitter since then. So I dont think we will see original Max anymore.
Overall, the film was kind of eh, but I love the ending.
It was pretty good.
Just Some Guy, you're one of the only remaining reasonable voices in this space. It'll take some time, but the future will (probably) vindicate you.
hey just some guy is this video a reupload because I swore I saw this a couple months ago?
A re-upload?
Speaking of too late...No one claimed "girl.boss", just too long and irrelevant
I was hesitant because it had the standard modern girl boss red flags, but I had not actually seen fury road, I had zero bias and I very much enjoyed it and it made me want to go watch fury road
I always heard good of fury road but I never got around to watching it
Just out of curiosity, isn't this the exact same video you literally posted months ago, JSG?