Commenting to feed the algorithm and get this party started. Thanks, Joe, for all you do (especially the Linux stuff). It has been more than 30 years since I had a turntable, (a Pioneer PL55DX that I bought when I was stationed overseas) but your take on all this is interesting to listen to. As Rush Limbaugh used to say, it's passion about your subject that make for good radio (or podcasts).
Joe. Badeditpro - I love you. All my questions have been answered! I have dug out my technics SL-E linear tracking turntable, and been spinning some LP's. I have the original Technics p22 cartridge and fitted a Jico shibata stylus and it is the quietest surface noise I have heard on a cartridge with great detail. I have also an audio technica AT 90 (I think that's the model number) and using that if I have a styrene 45, session. You've inspired me to think of exotic stylus shapes for the AT cartridge. Now spinning Don McLean American pie album! Greetings from the UK from a longtime subscriber! Keep those records spinning!!!
Thank-you, BTW, for taking the time to make this. Regarding the discussion at 8:16 about later models not being as good, this is unfortunately a thing. It's also not just about cutting costs, they also don't want entry-level cartridges being good enough to steal upper-end sales. So it's no surprise that the later models don't have the performance. I have actually just found and ordered a NOS "Studio Reference" series 1001 that you also speak briefly about, and I'm looking forward to it arriving and comparing it to my AT3472P. I suspect it will be better yet.
Hello I have one at81cp and one at85ep. The channel separation is fabulous, the audio output is superior. The audio is very linear although they have a lot of bass and the super highs are very clear and lively. Really an excellent purchase. Very economical but of exceptional quality. I can make a video if you want a comparison.
Thought of getting the DS Audio DS002 cartridge plus the DS AUDIO power interface unit to send 5V up the phono cable to power the cartridge and gives out the same audio level as a ceramic cartridge.
Great overview of this cart. I've been debating between this and LP Gear CFT4PSE. But I keep leaning toward this cart - conical styli seem more forgiving. Think I've made my decision. Subscribed
What a great and informative review! I've been seriously thinking about buying this cartridge, about 2 years ago my dad finally gave me his old JVC L-AX3 which came with the audio technica cartridge DR-200e which I'm hoping this will be a nice upgrade? Thanks for your time!
Acually, you might do better just to replace the stylus in that cart... Look for an ATN3472SE. Another good choice is LP Gear's Carbon Fidelity replacement stylus for these bull nose carts.
@@brandonb5842 Yours is a higher grade cart... Keep it and get a new stylus instead of replacing the whole thing. AT carts have no moving parts so they last forever.
I just got a Technics SL-5 tt from eBay and there was no needle on the SLT 96e cartridge. And the stylist won’t come off and stuck. So I’m looking to get a replacement cartridge but there are so many and trying to learn of all the models and not easy bc there are so many and wish they had a comparison video like they do with the new Audio Technica cartridges. Good to know the cartridges are interchangeable with different stylists. Anyway, thanks for the video and info.
These are no longer in production... LP Gear may have a few left, though. Audio-Technica makes a couple of P-mount carts and they are available on Amazon. They go for under $50. :)@@jacknjill3000
Ok and thanks for the info and I see a few new T4P cartridges on eBay and Amazon. My TT came with an Audio Technica SLT 96E with a broken stylus and the old needle won’t slide off and stuck. Or i would look for a replacement and found one used for the whole cartridge. The new Audio Technica VM line, they color code the stylus to show the different model and price range.
I don't know what the playback spec was for those records... Th .6 mil shape does track lower, though. It can miss a lot of groove damage inflicted by .7 mil and 1 mil styli of the past. :)
Interesting. I just restored a DUAL 604 with a Ortofon OM5E cartridge. I had no idea an elliptical shaped stylus could damage a 45 rpm record. I've got some homework to do. The good news is I saved another piece from 1977 from the trash bin. By the way, I used metal polish on the turntable lid and all the small scratches are gone. Someday I hope to come across a Technics SL 1200 MK2 at a decent price but for now I'll keep fixing up other direct drive gear.
An elliptical is pretty safe for 45's as long as it's aligned properly. The problems start with advanced shapes like Shibata and MicroLine and it's only on polystyrene pressings. Nice to hear about the Dual... I have used them and they are nice. :)
@@EzeeLinux are the polystyrene the later 45's from the 80's and 90's? Those 45's seem to be much thinner. Sound quality seems to be fine on the later 45's but I can't see them lasting as long as some from the 70's. It seems the industry started to cheap out.
@@brianstarr Polystyrene was used for 45's from the early 50's right up through the early 90's in the US. Most Columbia distributed 45's were styrene and other companies would issue on styrene pressed by independent plants like Monarch in LA. Capitol records are pretty much always vinyl because they ran there own plants... Independent companies like Warner and Atlantic would contact with whoever they could so you gacn find both vinyl and styrene pressings from them. It all depended on who could do the work fastest. 45's were always a rush job. 45's were considered throwaways back then and longevity wasn't much of a priority. I have found that the styrene records will hold up fine as long as you play them with care and don't use the wrong styli and keep away from heavy tracking forces. :)
@@EzeeLinux thanks Joe. Now I have to do some digging through my 500+ collection. I saw on the interwebs that you can hold a styrene record up to a strong light and it will have a red color when you look through it. All fun stuff.
Joe I own a at311ep that came with my sl-q300. I love the sound that comes from that cart. From new records to old I love it
I bought one 10 years ago for a Realistic linear tracking table I had at the time. It was a very nice cart. Hang on to it! :)
Commenting to feed the algorithm and get this party started. Thanks, Joe, for all you do (especially the Linux stuff).
It has been more than 30 years since I had a turntable, (a Pioneer PL55DX that I bought when I was stationed overseas) but your take on all this is interesting to listen to.
As Rush Limbaugh used to say, it's passion about your subject that make for good radio (or podcasts).
Thanks for that!
Yup and the passion helps greatly.
Joe. Badeditpro - I love you. All my questions have been answered! I have dug out my technics SL-E linear tracking turntable, and been spinning some LP's. I have the original Technics p22 cartridge and fitted a Jico shibata stylus and it is the quietest surface noise I have heard on a cartridge with great detail. I have also an audio technica AT 90 (I think that's the model number) and using that if I have a styrene 45, session. You've inspired me to think of exotic stylus shapes for the AT cartridge. Now spinning Don McLean American pie album! Greetings from the UK from a longtime subscriber! Keep those records spinning!!!
Thank-you, BTW, for taking the time to make this. Regarding the discussion at 8:16 about later models not being as good, this is unfortunately a thing. It's also not just about cutting costs, they also don't want entry-level cartridges being good enough to steal upper-end sales. So it's no surprise that the later models don't have the performance. I have actually just found and ordered a NOS "Studio Reference" series 1001 that you also speak briefly about, and I'm looking forward to it arriving and comparing it to my AT3472P. I suspect it will be better yet.
Yep. They are both conical. :)
Hello I have one at81cp and one at85ep. The channel separation is fabulous, the audio output is superior. The audio is very linear although they have a lot of bass and the super highs are very clear and lively. Really an excellent purchase. Very economical but of exceptional quality. I can make a video if you want a comparison.
Just like hearing your voice. needed to hear today
Yup, bought one for my Sony PS-LX520. It was actually cheaper to buy the whole cartridge, than a replacement stylus.
You have officially become my LINUX "Sensai" so figured I would additionally learn about all things music from you as well(-:
Great video again Joe. I love me some deep dark esoteric information! 😁
Thought of getting the DS Audio DS002 cartridge plus the DS AUDIO power interface unit to send 5V up the phono cable to power the cartridge and gives out the same audio level as a ceramic cartridge.
Great overview of this cart. I've been debating between this and LP Gear CFT4PSE. But I keep leaning toward this cart - conical styli seem more forgiving. Think I've made my decision. Subscribed
besides the AT311EP, I also have a AT DR200E which appears to be from the same family as these & has great specs.
What a great and informative review! I've been seriously thinking about buying this cartridge, about 2 years ago my dad finally gave me his old JVC L-AX3 which came with the audio technica cartridge DR-200e which I'm hoping this will be a nice upgrade?
Thanks for your time!
Acually, you might do better just to replace the stylus in that cart... Look for an ATN3472SE. Another good choice is LP Gear's Carbon Fidelity replacement stylus for these bull nose carts.
@@EzeeLinux ok, you dont think that newer cart would be a good idea for this turntable?
@@brandonb5842 Yours is a higher grade cart... Keep it and get a new stylus instead of replacing the whole thing. AT carts have no moving parts so they last forever.
@@EzeeLinux oh ok thank you very much, I'm sorry for the confusion!
i use the 3472P with 3472SE Stylus an Technics SL-QX300 sounds great!
I bet it does...
I just got a Technics SL-5 tt from eBay and there was no needle on the SLT 96e cartridge. And the stylist won’t come off and stuck. So I’m looking to get a replacement cartridge but there are so many and trying to learn of all the models and not easy bc there are so many and wish they had a comparison video like they do with the new Audio Technica cartridges.
Good to know the cartridges are interchangeable with different stylists.
Anyway, thanks for the video and info.
How much are these going for now?
These are no longer in production... LP Gear may have a few left, though. Audio-Technica makes a couple of P-mount carts and they are available on Amazon. They go for under $50. :)@@jacknjill3000
Ok and thanks for the info and I see a few new T4P cartridges on eBay and Amazon. My TT came with an Audio Technica SLT 96E with a broken stylus and the old needle won’t slide off and stuck. Or i would look for a replacement and found one used for the whole cartridge. The new Audio Technica VM line, they color code the stylus to show the different model and price range.
AT sells two P type carts... Your best choice is the AT85EP. @@jacknjill3000
Great and thanks for the help!
I wonder if the 0.6 mil would sound better than 0.7 mil for 16 rpm Seeburg type records, assuming they have smaller, more narrow grooves?
I don't know what the playback spec was for those records... Th .6 mil shape does track lower, though. It can miss a lot of groove damage inflicted by .7 mil and 1 mil styli of the past. :)
I bought mine exactly like yours new back in 1991 from Sears.
Would you recommend the AT3472P over the AT85EP?
The AT85EP is a very good cart for the money. It's also easily obtainable. :)
@EzeeLinux I can get either they're both available i was just wondering if you thought the 3472p was better.
This is the better cartridge but I thought they were all gone by now. :)@@ImCastorTroy45
@@EzeeLinux thank you !
Would LP Gear shibata be great with AT 3472 for playing on my Technics M1A for 33 records?
Yes, it really should be. Save the money and get the VividLine though, it's the same stylus as their Shibata. They do funny marketing stuff like that.
Nice Review Joe !!👍 Regards mike.
Thanks for great info, subscribed to your channel
Interesting. I just restored a DUAL 604 with a Ortofon OM5E cartridge. I had no idea an elliptical shaped stylus could damage a 45 rpm record. I've got some homework to do. The good news is I saved another piece from 1977 from the trash bin. By the way, I used metal polish on the turntable lid and all the small scratches are gone. Someday I hope to come across a Technics SL 1200 MK2 at a decent price but for now I'll keep fixing up other direct drive gear.
An elliptical is pretty safe for 45's as long as it's aligned properly. The problems start with advanced shapes like Shibata and MicroLine and it's only on polystyrene pressings. Nice to hear about the Dual... I have used them and they are nice. :)
@@EzeeLinux are the polystyrene the later 45's from the 80's and 90's? Those 45's seem to be much thinner. Sound quality seems to be fine on the later 45's but I can't see them lasting as long as some from the 70's. It seems the industry started to cheap out.
@@brianstarr Polystyrene was used for 45's from the early 50's right up through the early 90's in the US. Most Columbia distributed 45's were styrene and other companies would issue on styrene pressed by independent plants like Monarch in LA. Capitol records are pretty much always vinyl because they ran there own plants... Independent companies like Warner and Atlantic would contact with whoever they could so you gacn find both vinyl and styrene pressings from them. It all depended on who could do the work fastest. 45's were always a rush job. 45's were considered throwaways back then and longevity wasn't much of a priority. I have found that the styrene records will hold up fine as long as you play them with care and don't use the wrong styli and keep away from heavy tracking forces. :)
@@EzeeLinux thanks Joe. Now I have to do some digging through my 500+ collection. I saw on the interwebs that you can hold a styrene record up to a strong light and it will have a red color when you look through it. All fun stuff.
@@brianstarr I just put up a vid about polystyrene vs. vinyl. :)
Not so deep. Found it very interesting.
Thanks. Lots of details... :)