Drawings Are Made By The Body, Not The Mind
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Fun fact! Drawings are stored in the balls.
"has it ever occured to you, that the body may know more or just as much as the mind?" omg. Everytime i start a new drawing i feel i've lost all my skill and i can't draw anything, but i'm always wrong, i just have to trust the process for 15-60 minutes and i will start liking what i've done. my brain makes me go through this process everytime, refuses to stop lying to me! maybe my body is saving me everytime
I can relate🙏
Super relatable
I’ve noticed this more and more while drawing. Trying to force a certain result I have in mind often yields worse results than letting loose and giving control to the “body”. It’s like there’s a deeper part of me that knows what I’m looking for in a piece even better than myself, it’s quite spooky in a way.
Yoga helps to become aware of the mind body connection - as you focus on the yoga poses, you focus on the body, and the breathing.
Automatic drawing is my cup of tea. Letting my hand do its thang.
Since Ive first heard of this (reffered to as automatic drawing) in a sinix video, i have always done it as warm up. I keep drawing Goblins With Fat Asses.
Though it never occured to me to "feel" what my body was trying to tell me since it directly contradicts the fact that i am actively emptying my mind during rhe excercise. Whether i deafen myself to my body's compulsion to draw Goblins With Fat Asses due to ignorance or fear is something i will face soon due to this video. Thank you, Steven.
The mind designs, a great artist can emulate the design of the mind with one’s body.
This is what the flow state is all about, being present and not getting pulled away from your task by your mind. If you're worrying about your art in the moment you will not achieve flow
Body: I got your back bro
Mind: Thanks bruh
That was so beautifully done, that moment when color came in my jaw dropped! Shows your insane value understanding and ability to apply it.
Not being able to recognize some words, my adhd and the fact that a masterpiece was being created in front of my eyes definitely made my attention scattered enough from the narration. But I feel like I should go draw and not worry about anything.
I've felt on the precipice of this idea for the last few months as I've learned to paint in oil for school. The only note my professor ever gave me was that I'm too timid and it's led me down to the core of my hesitation in that my mind isn't letting my body just do what it knows how to do. Some part of my ego believes I cannot paint even though my body proves again and again that this is false, and all the overthinking is just a demonstration of that lack of faith. How could anyone get anything done effectively when their mind is shouting at them that they're going to mess up?
The body's influence on the mind is utterly fascinating. Especially when you get into the ways that gut bacteria influence hormone production and a variety of other things thus shaping emotion in ways that are kind of fantastic. Digital art is cool but I've loved when you can see the physicality of the work in traditional art. That lack of perfection or that imprint of the labor is interesting for the way that the artist remains within the work even when the work isn't about the artist.
The colors are so nice in this piece
Thank you Steven, I am reminded a lot of Eckhart Tolle from this one! I've noticed that when I eat foods that cause me inflammation such as red meats or ones that flare up my IBS my ability to make art wanes for a few days. This is also true when I don't get good sleep or haven't exercised in a long time. The body should be well taken care of, there is a reason Disney lets you stock up on free lunches, they know that a well taken care of employee will make up for the cost in better performance!
An interesting proposition. Particularly for "those" who insist so much on mimicking the neural patterns of the mind and see value in nothing else.
Sitting quietly, doing nothing, hand moves, and drawing made, by itself
i am confused. what should i do. draw? imma draw
Just a bunch of yapping
Just saw this little old lady artist describe it perfectly. What you are practicing is the application. The more you practice applying the thing to what you are applying to the better you get at the application. Its not just about knowing "the basics" and grasping concepts and visualization. Its also about physically learning and knowing your tools and your medium and your body physically moving them around, holding them, when to press, when to lift and by how much. There is no reason not to practice every day. The only excuses are being lazy or being injured. Excuse makers say "duhduhduh I can't think of what to draw" Well....don't draw a thing. Fill a page with hatching. Fill a 1/4 of a page. That counts as practicing that day. People over think everything.
"KateJenveyFineArt" is her channel name in case you are wondering who the little old lady is.
beautiful video thanks steven!
thanks for all of these
Thank you for the insight. You rule.
If the brain is part of the body, then does the mind affect drawing? I guess this gets to the mind/body connection. What if we could draw images directly onto a paper or screen, without using any other part of the body than the neurons in our brain?
Preach Steven Preach my boi
awesome work and great video
HOW are you so deep!? I love this.
i agree :)
It would be interesting if you made a video talking about the idea of the tragic artist and whether the best works of art were made in the artists' most tragic/stressful moments.
When I was in high school, one of the students in my English class asked if all great writers were tormented and alcoholic. We all laughed, but there is a stereotype about the poor starving artist. But I think there were many great happy artists as well - their lives weren't just as interesting.
thanks for the insight.
Completamente de acuerdo contigo, maestro Zapata
Love the video, truly do, and I don’t disagree with much of what you presented. In fact I really appreciate you opening up the conversation about art to include more ideas that broaden our perception of what it means to create. I’ll admit I’m still in the early stages of grasping many of these concepts, however, I can’t help but feel that it is not the “body” per se that stores this vast understanding that we do not consciously perceive, yet we see unfold in our work. Instead, I get the impression that only the mind can store any understanding at all, and we’ve associated large parts of our mental experience with this concept of the “body”. I’m not entirely sure any understanding whatsoever can exist outside of the mind, and so, when we experience the generative process we call art, intuitively, and by way of various guiding intentions (most of which are not conscious), we call forth information from the mind, most of which resides outside of our conscious experience. Ultimately, the way I see it, our conscious mind is part of the same “larger” mind that extends beyond conscious awareness, and it has an interesting relationship with it, as it is both *created by* the greater mind, and to various extents (and in various ways), *reimagines* much of the greater mind.
It's odd to see how deeply ingrained dualism is on modern day thought, Descartes doomed us, body is within mind not the other way around, they are not different things, more like particular bandwidths of consciousness, art is art because there's a mind who decided so, bodies alone don´t find nor make art, I really like this exercise tho,
you are wrong the hand must obey the intellect so says michelangelo
I have, once again, bested Michelangelo.
Any chance @StevenZapata has talked about Austin Osman Spare or Alan Moore in any of his other videos?
Logic can really devalue wisdom in a way. Learning something and accepting something as a part of your existence are two very different things. We really take it for granted that we can see the logic of something and have some semblance of how it can be used.
These thoughts really remind me of that scene from "The Matrix" where Neo learns Kung Fu. It's such a fantastical idea, that you could download all the little minute lessons a master learns over a lifetime of practice directly as ones and zeroes, logic into the brain. Since it's "logic" it's through some "sufficiently advanced technology" it doesn't really seem fantastical, it's almost mundane though.
I think it helps me a lot to remember that my brain isn't really a computer. You can make analogs to it as computer but it isn't really a computer. It's really just a slab of meat that is shaping itself to external stimuli. Those stimuli are not ones and zeroes, and even the part of them stored in the brain seem to not really exist as some "particle" but as the metaphysical manifestation of many different connections in the brain.
The mind is material, mind and body is the same.
Can you explain more about the exercise ? It is hard for me to understand how to let my body take control.
Spend more time making art instead of learning about how to make it. I'd say the best thing is to always have a canvas out as you watch/read guides and pause frequently to try what you just learned.
Forgive me if im interpreting this wrong, but i see this like one should moreso accept and work with what the body can do at this moment of time. Your mind may have the perfect art in mind, but the body is incapable of achieving that.
But the thing is, the mind is ever changing and the body may never truly catch up, but should it?
Maybe the mind needs to work with the body, work with its pace instead of the other way around. The body after all likes making art;what it doesnt like is the mind constantly screaming in its ear.
zapapa bless 🙏
i know exactly what youre talking about, but those moments, where things just come out effortless and their flow shows in the work really just doesnt happen unless its something you've done or appreciated countless times. its almost antithetical to what i desire as an artist, to be in that state, as much as I desire to feel it
Drawings are made in the body, that's true. I don't think every art is made by the body, pixel art for example requires very little muscle memory and hand training as digital/traditional drawing, it's a more intelectual than physical pursuit, (even if it uses the same art fundamentals as all other art forms.) but digital/traditional art, IS ABSOLUTELY DONE BY THE BODY, NOT THE MIND! It doesn't matter how cool the image in your head is, how much color theory you study or whatever, without practise, without muscle memory or hand training, you will not be able to make it look the way you envision, so just practise I guess, you don't need to draw every day, I draw very rarely, just keep drawing periodically I guess...
Is what you call the body what I call the subconscious? I think how I interpret you is that some artists dont understand this basic mechanism used to progress as an artist. It isnt by simply knowing 1000 facts on the human form or even reading 100 art books (though that would help you get started), rather its by procedural learning. You learn by doing and you practice things until you can incorporate them in the act of doing multiple things at once. The knowledge you aquire here cant be fully explained or accessed through words, as language has little to do with the procedure you used to acquire the knowledge and if you were to try to distill this knowledge into words it would only be watered down in the process. This diluted knowledge may be helpful to a student, but it wont get them anywhere if it isnt applied and further explored. That said, im a conniving cave goblin larping as a philosopher and I harvest 0.0001% of the life force of all artists that read my youtube comments!!! Shoutout to claire wendling
drawings are actually made by hand. In some rare cases by foot