Abandoned Arenas in the Amazon: The Aftermath of Brazil's 2014 FIFA World Cup
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
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“Deserted stadiums in the desert: The aftermath of Qatar’s 2022 FIFA World Cup”
Coming to Sideprojects in 2023.
They’re building entire areas around the stadiums the amount of dead infrastructure afterwards will be staggering
Worlds newest white elephants coming soon to qatar
Well, I guess Qutar can better afford it than Brasil can.
agree only because they paid the largest bribes and death of workers.
@@bangbangbang7940 Nah they will just convert it to a indoor camel racetrack.
If you look at the Google Map satellite pictures of the Cuiaba Airport, you can see the many locomotives and train cars that were purchased overseas for the 2014 FIFA World Cup. They have never moved under their own power nor carried any passengers to this day. The trains are simply abandoned there, rotting. Just look for the rail lines at the southern border of the airport and you will find the trains. The rail lines from the airport into the city never got completed. Whenever I am at the Cuiaba Airport, the sight of those trains makes me sad. Hosting the 2014 FIFA World Cup and the 2016 Rio Olympics were two ginormous mistakes made by our former governments. Regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
They dont get to choose.
I'm no expert but im pretty sure the money used for these buildings in Brazil would not have gone somewhere else if it wasn't hosted ^^
You just wouldn't have these abandoned buildings.
@@clayton9136 Yes they do. The government can just say no thanks and the event gets held elsewhere.
@@aniquinstark4347 right they can choose not to. But not choose to.
I went on Google maps after reading this comment. It’s quite disgusting tbf. There’s way more trains than I was expecting. For a country where the wealth gap is so large it’s a shame to see this when it could have been used to help the poorest of the poor. Or atleast improve the infrastructure
You can do a whole series on the abandoned buildings from the Olympics.
A whole other channel
Japan will certainly have a lot after their own debacle of an Olympics!
@@arcturionblade1077 Japan is between a rock and hard place. Damned if they will, damned if they don't. The sunk costs alone...
With a still raging pandemic, will there even be athletes going there? Let alone tourists. Remember how many flipped out over Zika during Rio 2016? And that wasn't even immediately fatal, with lower infection rates.
@@deeya Whatever happens, Japan is in a pretty good position to weather the storm either way. It isn't going to affect Japan anywhere near as bad as it would most other countries, for a couple of simple but very relevant reasons. First off, Japan does not depend or rely on tourism for its economic survival, unlike many host cities/countries. Japan could say "screw it" and cancel the Games altogether, and it will be just fine. Tourism is only a tiny fraction of their economy. Losing tourist bucks will sting a little bit, but is not going to do any real long term damage to their economy.
Also, Japan doesn't have anywhere near the sunk costs that most host cities rack up. Their overall investment in this Olympiad is far lower than what other countries spent on previous Olympiads. They don't have to invest tens of billions into building all new buildings; and their various infrastructures (particularly public transportation) are already in place, well established and already high capacity (and world class, to boot). Many of the venues being used are well designed, highly engineered and remarkably crafted legacy buildings originally built for the 1964 Olympics. Since then, these popular venues have been regularly used, meticulously maintained, regularly updated and fully modernized. In many ways, they are in as good or better shape now than when they were built sixty years ago. They are a great example of how to successfully build Olympic venues that last, unlike the subject of this video. I would not be surprised at all if these same venues get used once again when Tokyo hosts the 2076 Olympic Games.
Only LA made out back in 1984 as there were already a ton of venues established in Southern CA.
Such a sad waste, the country really could’ve benefited if they had committed more to the longevity of the infrastructure.
I’m from Sydney, Australia - we still use our Olympic park from the 2000 Olympics
you can go to any purpose built facility and pay to use the equipment (archery, hockey, swimming pools, stables, shooting), all our stadiums are used for sporting events and music festivals, pavilions are used for seasonal shows and festivals, parks are open for public recreational use, our Olympic village was refurbished into apartments then sold off and a financial district was built in the neighbouring suburbs to keep the public transport to the area operational.
That all happened during the most corrupt government we ever had in Brazil. The people of the state of Amazonia need hospitals and sanitary infrastructure so say the least, but instead they built a gigantic football stadium. That was sad.
@@SlapstickGenius23 dude you dont even know what you are talking about, the places with the most investment were the most diverse regions and with the highest infrastructure meaning its cheaper there. But most importantly that wasnt the reason at all, stop trying to see racism where it doesnt exist
I’m leaving.
Everyone clap
the corrupt officials would have embezzled the money anyway, the world cup gave them a convenient excuse to launder the money as a legitimate earning that's all.
I remember just one game. I still can't believe Brazil lost 1-7 to Germany.
My wife is Brazilian and she says that the shame and embarrassment is outclassed only by the memes that came out of that shitshow, lol.
the legendary mineirazo
That was like their 9-11.
Brazil vs Uruguay 1950.
Even if the score is small 2-1 (if a remember correctly) people dies, families where marked with shame and the politics power lost.
I was in a bar in Germany watching this game and as it went on the Germans went from cheering for their team to mortified silence.
Brazil: 20 died during construction
Qatar: Hold my baklava...
Brazil: pity me, puny Qatar.
Qatar: hahahaha my influence is miles beyond you. Anyone can die during my stadium’s construction!
No Qatari citizen died during the construction of the World Cup stadium!
Please stop spreading false rumour.
It’s possible that certain Qatari workers will have died during the construction of the Qatar World Cup stadium.
@@AshrakAhmed Yeah, you just hire folks from poorer countries and let them die....The rest of the world does not care about the difference.
@@nielsklarenberg5871 if anything, it makes it worse
The IOC and FIFA needs to stop allowing cities/ countries to even enter the selection process unless they have 75% of the infrastructure and facilities already in place. Otherwise, spread it out over several cities, several neighboring countries.
Build a small city in Africa with a efficient public transportation system
I fully agree.Greece was perfect example and Qatar will be second example.
@@penzlic Qatar or anywhere else that's over 100F (38C) in the daytime - is just too damn hot 🔥 !!!
Qatar has got the money to build everything indoors and then put a tent over everything else that's not. But, difference between every other location and some place like Qatar is that Qatar has so much money that they won't turn to the IMF or EU to bail them out- instead they'll turn to a rich relative...
@Leroy Brown Not sure who you're addressing or what you mean by "That's" and "their" - cause not clear on what you're trying to say
@@zafarsyed6437 He's saying the IOC and FIFA have no moral or ethical obligation to deny a government's desire to hold games that are going to financially ruin the country.
Just imagine all the work that went into getting Tokyo ready for the Olympic Games, and now they've barred fans due to pandemic concerns, all that work to build enormous facilities that will be empty other than the competitors, surely due a side projects video of its own
Somewhat agree but it seems like the majority of stadiums were already there/ reading up on it are temporary and not permanent buildings so this sort of thing does not happen
@@phodge9985 that’s interesting
They'll just convert it into digital fan/waifu housing
cat girl facility
Hilariously, Akira was proven right after all, almost 3 and a half decades later
Hello from Manaus
white elephants sums it up. Totally agree, to top it all of it was buit with little care.
The stadium here in Manaus is unbearably hot, there is absolutely no ventilation. The canopy prevensts the air flow from the sides and it doesn't block the sun, beacause the sun sits so high here near the equador for nearly the entire day. We had a better stadium before believe it or not. There are many other of design flaws, not enough energy, generators have to be improvised and still needed when there is an event. There is no parking, and the main streets have to be shut down so getting there is a nightmare. The list goes on...
Jesus Christ
I rarely hear from that stadium, has it ever been used for something since the world cup, other than as emergency hospital?
TBH when there's a big event in Maracanã the roads near it are also close, the difference is you have both train and metro stops near the stadium, which helps a lot
Se no Morumbi eu já acho foda aqueles jogos à tarde no verão, imagino em Manaus com isso que você falou...
"Brazil 2014 might be an embarrassment"
Qatar 2022 - Hold my alcohol free beer
Specific fan-zones will be established where alcohol can be bought. Although expatriates may purchase alcohol and certain businesses may sell alcohol with a permit, drinking in public is not permitted as Qatar's legal system is based on Sharia.
Bring the World Cup back to Brazil, they said...
*It'll be fun, they said*
...or so the Germans would have you believe.
It was fun for an European organisation and an European country.
I mean.... we all knew this was going to happen. Same thing with South Africa in 2010. These countries simply do not have the present infrastructure or the future need to host an event like this. The US should be fine since they already have about 40+ stadiums that are World Cup worthy and are in regular use anyway.
and than the Germans came to the semifinals...
@@vincegonzalez2171 Germany, France, England and Spain too.
Pantanal Arena is being used since the end of the World Cup. It has hosted games for big teams in Brazilian Championship, also a lot of American football games, but mostly it is used now as a triage zone to covid pacientes.
Also a lot of people go there to ride bike, roller skating, skate boarding and so on.
Far from ideal? Yes, but not abandoned at all.
they do not want to head that, they have there narrative for this stadium.
You should do a video about the Montreal Olympics; unfinished stadium, retractable roof that doesn't retract and tends to rip and is now being used a couple of times a year but not in winter since the roof may collapse, abandoned airport, lotsa corruption (cement trucks going into the stadium full, then leaving full and reselling the cement somewhere else... gotta love the business model), cost overruns (we just finished paying it off)...
The big Owe
Nothing sums this up better than "Empty million-dollar stadium used as shelter by homeless people."
at least now they have a roof over their head even when the gov't don't care about them
That is old news Cuiba have a 1st division club now, and its very likely that they will stay one more year.
Surprised nobody in office has tried using this as a sales pitch. "... And look! It can even host some of the people whose homes we destroyed, you know, when it falls into ruin not long after we take all your government money and bail..."
Simon: "Dozens of people died."
Qatar: "AWWW, that's fucking cute you guys."
But Brazil is not an islam controlled dump, so it actually matters to the rest of the world, unlike Qatar....
@@branon6565 you clearly haven’t seen what Qatar looks like 😂 cos i promise you its a lot nicer than 99% of areas in the world....💯 I personally don’t agree with religion and politics being mixed and don’t think islam is correct at all but at the same time I don’t think the fact that the country has a majority Muslim population has anything to do with it. Brazil has a massive majority Christian population but we don’t blame the shit show of a tournament that they put on down to Christianity. Think you need to get yourself out of the house a bit more and experience something outside of pathetic little bubble.
@@branon6565 No one points at Christ the Redeemer and blames him for Brazil's WC fuck ups
Harri Whipp well that’s because America is mostly Christian so we know it works in developed counties
@@branon6565 Getting a bunch of people killed in unsafe building sites for little or no pay is wrong regardless of what god they say they pray to or whether Brazil, Qatar or anyone else does it.
I laughed so hard watching them lose on their own turf, and then I felt bad...but then I saw the score and laughed again...then I saw this video and felt bad...then I saw the score and laughed again...
I had a mixture of pleasure and pain. I didn't like watching that kid crying. I really liked that German team, though who knew how far they would fall in subsequent years.
Brutal 🤣🤣🤣
Almost as funny as the US not qualifying in 2018
As a Brazilian myself I can say - you nailed it. Very accurate info. You can check the 2016 Olympic trashed out arenas we have now. A f... shame and we are still paying for it 😚
Never forget the brilliant quote from Ronaldo Fenomeno after complaints of the amount of money spent with football while our healthcare system was (and still is) in shambles: "World Cups are not made with hospitals but with stadiums"
Lost my respect for Ronaldo after that
"Can it get worse?"
"And the 2022 host is Qatar!"
Yes, as you mentioned, it can get much, much worse.
Qatar swims in money and is small, actually a great place to hold a World Cup
@@theshadowman1398 No the Qatar ruling family is swimming in money. The normal everyday Qatari is poor. It's a HORRIBLE place to hold any event.
Honestly would have been better to have announced it would be hosted on the surface of the sun. Its going to be a rough event
@@termnus77
Not really. It will be held late November until mid December, temperatures in Qatar are just right then.
"In November of 2018 when a local publication polled the Brazilian public, 80% of respondents said they were happy about their nation hosting the World Cup and believed it would benefit their country. By 2004, that number dropped to 48 thanks to many construction delays and lack of public infrastructure development." What?
Calm down francine lol
Came to say this.
I believe it's 2008 and 2014, since in 1998 Brazil still wasn't chosen
Well, I can state that the world cup indeed broke us, maybe beyond repair.
In the years leading to the cup, we already had a notion that the government was doing shady stuff with our money to get those arenas ready. We knew we couldn't win, lest it being forgotten and buried by the media.
Well, we lost spectacularly, and had the presidential election that year. The public outrage was high, and Rousseff got reelected by a very slim margin - only for it to turn out that she was artificially holding prices and taxes prior to the election in order for it to happen, and mere days after securing her position, the prices of everything doubled.
In the next year the corruption scandals were revealed...
And the rest is history. We ain't getting out of this crisis
I guess it is the other way around, 80% in 2004 and 48% in 2018. That makes more sense.
Thank you.
The only thing I remember about this is the "face palm" logo. That, in itself, was worth the $13B.
I never saw a facepalm in the logo, unless I squinted just right.
I love it when 3rd world countries win those bids and have to put up huge walls and curtains to hide the slums!! 😆😂🤣
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT why would you love that
@@delorgesjunior2235 When used in that context, it's meant as sarcasm and means "It's effed-up, that the Officials would waste that money hiding the poor, instead of helping them."
The stadiums served their purpose: to embezzle billions of tax payer’s dollars.
FIFA got their kickbacks as did the sponsors.
@Davis Edison The overspending is definitely intentional.
@@aniquinstark4347 The constructions were underbudget. Brazil set aside 13B and only used 11.6B
@@matheusd.rodrigues429 That only because the majority of projects were canceled or even downright never started at all....
Anybody doubting this is a gullible fool
See, Simon, there was only ONE arena built in the Amazon. The other eleven stadiums were located in some other region. Brazil is huge.
If you tell them Brazil is more than the Amazon rainforest, their brain explode.
I think one of the ideas was that hosting the World Cup in 2014 would prepare Brazil for the even more expensive and complicated Olympics in 2016. White elephants? A whole herd of them, maybe.
“All is not well in brasilia” is a phrase that has been etched into my mind
My coworker and I were *just* talking about this yesterday at lunch! Great timing! :)
Archaeologist in the future: They are more sacred sites for worship.
Archeologists in the future?
Didn’t know the dolphins were that advanced already. Sure hope they enjoy all the aurochs we painted before we went extinct.
Yes, the worship of Bollocks!
It seems that their object of worship was... A Ball.
I think it is fair to classify a football stadium as a sacred site for worship.
I can’t think of any other reasonable way to describe the frenzy around the game (and I say this as a football fan)
@@popuppete tbh I feel like for some people it actually is more than a sport, almost like a religion. I mean look what went down in Naples and Argentina when Maradona died, treated his death like they lost their saviour.
Already looking forward to next year's Business Blaze vid on the Tokyo Olympiad.
Brazil, preparing to host the 1950 World Cup: We'll build the Maracana so we can win the World Cup in front of our own fans.
Uruguay: Ooops, we didn't get that memo!
Brazil, preparing to host the 2014 World Cup: Okay, we finally figured out what we did wrong last time. But this time we'll build *12* stadiums instead of one. That way we will guarantee that we win the World Cup in front of our own fans.
Germany: Hold my beer!
😂😂😂
i think this has been my favorite side projects video yet. You could do a video for each time the world cup or Olympics absolutely tanked a countries economy.
I was just thinking about the 2016 Olympics and how they left everything in disarray
So which is the bigger scam? FIFA World Cup Soccer or the Olympic Games? Is there one bigger than either of these two?
Olympics have to get the gold there. The athletes dont get paid a cent. Really disgusting when considering how well watched it is.
@@Thomas...191 Good point. At least soccer athletes are paid. The Olympics causes a broader diversity of wasted infrastructure as well.
@Leroy Brown The fact countries fight to host these things doesn't disqualify them from being scams, it just shows that the scam is working. Scams and cons only work because the person being scammed ignores all the warning signs and fools themselves into thinking it's a good idea.
@Leroy Brown Yup, all the facts are right there in everyone's faces that hosting these major events is never profitable for the hosts and always profitable for the event organization, and countries still willingly go for it. That's literally the definition of a scam.
@@HylanderSB It depends where they are hosted, I posted a little further up, Canada did okay with it's two Olympics and Expo 86, is that last one still a thing? It was a big deal for Vancouver, we got the Skytrain, which is pretty good I think, but I don't ride it every day. Most of the buildings have been used after the fact, but I think it has to do with transparency, if you host them somewhere where corruption is rampant, you will get waste on a scale that most people find morally repugnant, in Canada, it was just a meh level of waste because we ended up using the stuff we built in most cases and all the highway upgrades and such were necessary anyway.
I remember when the US hosted the World Cup, no big deal. We had plenty of stadiums, plenty of hotel rooms and plenty of big airports. Of course most of the fans came from abroad because we don't particularly care for soccer.
And rightly so.
@@rodchallis8031 Women's football is selling quite well, and the MLS has been increasing in popularity every year. As pricing for other sports, or just the danger of them grows, soccer is becoming popular in North America, not so much in Canada yet, which is strange because I think Hockey is up there for sport pricing.
@@viperswhip there's issues with football that North American fans of traditional north american sports have trouble with. Kills me, for example, that there's a storied team with great history, like say Westham united and their jersey is an advertisement. And then there's the disgraceful rolling around with fake injuries. Not that the NHL doesn't have 'divers', but those kinds of histrionics are a hard sell with many Canadians.
@@rodchallis8031 If diving was a problem, the NBA wouldn't be so popular. And ads? Never saw the NFL?
@@henriquemelchiorgomes8750 I'd sooner watch paint dry than the NFL.
1:45 - Chapter 1 - Bidding & planning
3:25 - Chapter 2 - Travel infrastructure
6:25 - Chapter 3 - Stadiums
8:50 - Chapter 4 - White elephants
11:40 - Chapter 5 - Legacy
Arena Gremio was built at Porto Alegre, for 56 thousand people, private stadium with private money. Finished in 2012 and arguably better than many of the World Cup stadiums. And yet, it wasn't even considered.
Another excellent video Simon and crew. All hail the algorithm! May you trend forever more!
not to mention the several allegations of corruption, wich only makes it worse
Considering it's the World Cup, that's just S.O.P., though.
Welcome to Brasil
Several ? More likely many
Honestly i would be glad if it was corruption and not just sheer incompetence
A beautiful, huge one-quarter-filled stadium is the most Brasilia thing ever.
I love it when the Blaze starts seeping into his other work. Like a verbal Easter egg.
Stadiums typically make for sucky investments. Cities pour hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars into these massive structures while sports teams barely contribute anything to them, and they aren't used enough to justify the costs.
Well yea when people can’t afford to go to them
But here in America specifically California where I live there was a new stadium built and it for sure made all its money back within a few years
There’s even a newer stadium being built for the Raiders and it had to go without fans in 2020 so it’s probably way behind but once people are allowed to fill it up again it’ll be making its money back in no time
Wow and that raider stadium I’m talking about is one of the most expensive in the world i think it comes in second place next to an even bigger stadium both in the US and both either in California or one state over in Nevada
The most expensive is in California and the other is in Vegas the other one I was talking about was Levi stadium
Too often team owners hold cities hostage.
It was FIFA's finest hour....*Throws a Rock at Football*
Thank god we learned from this.
So Qatar, waddap?
This one hit different mate. Well done
"...were the games, as much of a shame, as everyone claimed" nice one David!
the best part was team Brazil losing to Germany 7-1.
Ah yes, good times
Totally agreed! I could care less for soccer, but out of the few matches I’ve watched, that was the one I was laughing the most. It was almost like Germany had no opponents... 😂
after the second goal the camera cuts to the crowd and all the women were crying. faceplate getting smeared from them wiping tears. lol classic.
@@formulah113 Yeah, that crying was truly pathetic... It’s just a soccer match, not like a life or death situation... The players, even loosing the match, still got paid their millions...
@@Rmaia3d 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Simon never misses an opportunity to mention how he doesn't care about football. Glad to see I'm not alone.
You don't enjoy Art in motion?
@@smokeytheangler8387 Oh, I enjoy art just fine, it's football I don't like.
BTW, this is just a joke, just because I don't like football it doesn't mean I have anything against people who do. To each their own.
*tips fedora*
@@smokeytheangler8387 By art do you mean the horrendous acting portrayed?
I just don’t see the appeal of this sport. I find watching cars make left turns far more exciting.
That 1-7 defeat is the perfect representation of what hosting the tournament brought to Brazil: Suffering
This video is exactly what side projects should be all about; the aftermath or tangents about mega projects
The solution for the World Cup is the same as the solution for the Olympics, identify a small number of semi-permanent host cities/countries and rotate between them. Or have the same place host every 4 years but given the impacts of an event like this on even a large host city I think rotating between 3-4 host cities/countries would be best.
I actually somewhat disagree. Take USA or Canada, we dont need to be listed as semi permanent. California can easily host both FIFA, Summer Olympcis, and Winter Olympics just due to existing in fastructure. Altanta had no issue with Olympics because they already had many places that could be used and had solid plan for post Olympics such as reducing seating of olympic stadium to be used in pro baseball. Then there is Vancouver and Utah, that already have the venues for much of the sports for winter olympics, they just have to do some modifications of existing places, temp seating, and sure few new facilities. Instead of semi perminant locations, you should look at places that already have certain basic infrastructure in place. If you are going to have Fifa game, does location already have say base line amount of stadiums in place. For Olympics, does the location already have locations that normally would host or with little modification can host such? I also think that there should be Max amount that could be spent for these events.
@@MichaelJordan-uo2ke Well that would work as well though I think it would be hard to find locations that meet those requirements that haven't previously hosted. Also if the hosting is too infrequent you might have to refurbish the arenas and you'd have to either keep the housing vacant (or at least leased on a short term basis) between games or build new housing each time.
Not sure if Sideprojects realise that the "Spanish laughing man" passed away in April 2021
Oh but wait! There is more.... Brazil also hosted the Olympic games in 2016.... Guess how that turned out!
FIFA made out like bandits and everyone else got screwed? That's never happened before.
FIFA has always been like this, but can definitely show its ugly round head anytime in any place whenever it goes, as it’s one of the few French Companies that I tend to strongly dislike and boycott. Similar for Ubisoft, period.
Now do the Qatar 🇶🇦 world cup with thousands of dead people used in the buildings of the stadiums currently going on
No Qatari citizen died during the construction of the World Cup stadium!
@@AshrakAhmed no but over 6500 workers brought in from India have
The fault is giving a massive tournament to a country not prepared for it.
Or wanting to host a massive tournament. How many countries can support twelve state-of-the-art stadiums. Though there were issues with how spread out the recent Euros were at least there were no new builds required. And Europe has so many world class stadiums. I forget how many venues were used in the recent Copa America that was transferred to Brazil at the last minute. And then the hosts lost to their number one rivals to the south/southwest.
@@stevencooke6451 Brazil can very easily host a World Cup tournament, there is exactly 0 need to build stadiums in the fucking Amazon, where that are exactly 0 relevant football teams.We have more than enough space and infrastructure on our east coast.
So sad really. If they built more basic stadiums in cities that couldn't afford the maintenance and infistructure was well managed and completed it could've really improved people's lives. With all the talent/skill available in the world it amazes me how often things are mismanaged.
Hey Simon , happy to see that you make a video about the 2014 World Cup . Just a correction here , the right pronunciation for Cuiabá is ku-ya-ba
As a matogrossense hearing him called cuiaba “C,ABA” hurt my ears 😩
It was not an exercise in honouring Brazilian pronunciation, e.g., Maracanã.
COOYABAH 😂
That’s insane dude 93 projects. Good luck...
How illuminating. I recall there were very few taxi cabs also to transport the fans to the stadiums with the unfinished rapid transit leaving the expensive ticket holders to walk for miles through the most dangerous ghettos in the world to the stadiums where many were mugged. Still a banana republic.
Oh, one thing missing from this video: brazilian and worldwide soccer player star, Ronaldo, when asked about those budgets being put into stadiums instead of basic needs, hospitals in this case, said "one does not make a World Cup out of hospitals".
As a Brazilian, this is one of those videos I can't watch out of cringe and shame.
Seu comentário foi muito cringe
When are you making Slideprojects? Where the entire video is composed of slides. Surely you have time for just one more channel :D
Is all of youtube this guy? How many channels does he have haha! 😂 😆
Hey Simon, you should do a video about all the different sporting arenas in Melbourne. We love our sport down here! 🙋♀️
This is exactly like the olympics
If Olympic athletes got paid well it would be; they dont get a cent from all that advertising money. So gross.
@@Thomas...191 I agree. They’re putting in decades (they’re whole life) of training building up to participate in the olympics to win a medal when in reality, they’re just the puppets to an organization that honestly doesn’t care about the athletes. It’s all about the money and whose willing to blow billions to have the olympics in their city
I wanted add to this. The Olympic organization can get away without paying the athletes a lot of money because they’re not like the MLB/NFL/NBA/NHL ETC. There’s no drafts and no contracts. It’s the athletes entering to compete and the Olympics host it and record the data.
Ahh, the great gravy-train for politicians and the other elites. The olympucs are a con.
The olympics are a con too! That said, I’m boycotting the next PRC summer olympics as I saw the first one thirteen years back.
this was a train wreck from the moment it was annouced as Brazil was the host
Worse than that. They couldn't even get the trains for the train wreck going.
I mean, the last time a good host was selected imo, was Germany... in 2006. I'm talking about no political problems or corruption, so 2026 North-America would be the next good one.
Buuuut... I don't like that host, because of the passionless North Americans. Except for Mexicans, they are very passionate for the game.
@@fosterfuchs nah nah the trains probably weren't built to even be a train wreck!!
Hi, I live in Manaus, a city in the state of Amazonas, where this stadium is located.
Currently the stadium is used for events but it is really stagnant. But it is worth noting that a team from the city, called Manaus FC, uses the Stadium as their "home".
I love this guy's work 💯. I'll follow him even if he has 1m YT channels.
Much of this resonates for the World Cup held in South Africa in some ways...in particular the stadium built in Durban; another White Elephant. World Cups and Olympics are not worth it, for any country.
It's worth it if the infrastructure is mostly built and indefinitely maintained by the locals, for example Los Angeles could host the summer games indefinitely. But then people complain "That's not fair" and i'm like "Yes because bankrupting a country is fair to it's citizens"
Absolutely agree, especially given we built the Durban Moses Mabida stadium next to the existing Kings Park Stadium, could have upgraded that for a fraction of the cost. Let's not mention the other 9 that barely get used :(
One of the many examples of how FIFA can ruin countries, all for the sake of kicking a ball about, no game should ever result in people suffering who aren't even partaking in the events...
Pro sports in general are a huge problem in modern society. Far too much money and resources is spent on what amounts to a bunch of grownups kicking or throwing a ball around to score arbitrary points in what ultimately amounts to nothing.
5:16 Never seen someone mispronounce an brazilian portuguese name so badly as this. Man deserves a prize for sure 😂😂😂😂😂
I can't wait for "Qatar lost football city" episode in decade or so.
I could just vomit every time I hear a stadium will bring good jobs and prosperity to a city. Like trickle down economics, it’s a lie. The reality is that these decisions are made around political favors.
I have a theory. Despite everything, had Brazil won the World Cup, instead of being humiliated by Germany 7-1 in the semifinal, the people of Brazil would feel completely differently. Despite all the waste and people made homeless, had they won, they would overwhelmingly feel that it was all worthwhile.
Not that I blame them. Money is just money. Your nation winning the World Cup is worth just about any price.
I will admit, I realized this during that tournament and laughed my ass off during the semifinal. Not that I dislike Brazil, I simply found the irony to be hilarious. Still do, if I'm honest.
I guess not. The people are not that stupid, specially the lower income classes that depend on social health for example, they knew that those billions of dollars could have been used to enhance their security, health care and transportation infrastructure without the need to host a international event.
Imagine having such a low IQ as a people that a sportsball event can destroy your nation.
Great video! do you have the sources of these facts as I would love to use some of them for my assignment (looking at the effectiveness of flagship events as development strategies)
They were supposed to be used for both the 2014 FIFA World Cup, AND the 2016 Olympics and you forgot to mention that and how it related to all this.. and all THOSE venues.. as well.
I think Qatar is going to out do brazil, such a giant waste
That sounds like any country that has the sad fate to host the Olympics.
Brazil also did that.... 2 years later
Canada has been okay with it, the Saddledome became home of the Flames for a good long time, though they have now moved from it I think. Whistler's upgrades were needed, so were the highway upgrades and all the athlete housing was converted for sale, but in Whistler it became part of a local housing program where you have to work in Whistler to be allowed to buy one and the City controls the prices, so they are affordable for the people that live there. So, the two times we hosted it, it worked out okay I think. But you should only host something if you need to do infrastructure anyway. Now, I am not sure where the Fifa games will be played, or what we are doing for that, I think the US will bear the brunt, but they have a very robust women's football league and I think the MLS is doing quite well. Mexico also is getting some games, I don't know what's going on down there. Basically, I don't think it will be bad for a country that is fairly well off and needs to do some work anyway.
People caught on though. The last two times cities here in Germany were aplying to host the Olympic Games they got stopped by the citizens.
For the Fifa World Cup 2006 only already existing Stadiums of Bundesliga Clubs were modernized, so they get continued use all year around, most of the Infrastructure was already there and STILL Germany did not break even. Fifa gets a license to rob you blind. Besides paying no taxes they sue every tiny little shop that tries to profit of the turnament if they even display a soccer ball in the window. Which is funny, because the whole "you'll make lot of money with the people who come because of the event" is the main argument to host it in the first place. In a certein distance to the stadium you were not allowed to sell beverages of companies that were no sponsor etc. The fact that countries bribe Fifa to get to host it is insane. Is like paying someone to beat you up
@@OriginalKKB I am not entirely sure how they still have copyright over anything, this shit has been around so long. I remember when the Olympics came to Calgary and over in the Okanagan here in BC a small restaurant called Olympic Pizza got shut down...crazy, the Olympics have been a thing for 2000 years, how do they have copyright over anything?
@@viperswhip In the case of the World Cup the Host nation has to sign a Contract with Fifa in which they sign away certain rights and grant Fifa all licensing for anything related to soccer for a certain time before during and after the event. I suspect the IOC has a similar racket going.
I hear this a lot, world Cup, the Olympics does any of these major events that float around actually benefit the city or country that host them?
Glad you chose a shirt that’s about as fashionable as when this World Cup took place 😂
You never want to host the Olympics.. or the World Cup.
Also: renovation and reuse are comedically "greener" than demolishing a building and replacing it (new concrete is that bad, carbon emissions wise)
That’s the nicest big irony that I’ve ever heard.
The world cup have helped multiple countries just Brazil was well ironically not.
Hosting events like these usually destroy local economies, housing, property & goods values, strain infrastructure to a breaking point. Reasons why Colorado rejected hosting the 1976 Olympics, they could smell the trouble & chaos it would cause.
Interesting point. It definitely fuels a property bubble
*FIFA:* congrats! We chose your country to host the world cup!
*Me:* ha ha, nooo. No thank you.
After euro 2004 in Portugal there's also 2-3 stadiums that have little to no use and cost local authorities alot of money to maintain so I heard the possibility of demolish at least one of them
It has totally been worth every singel dollar , idk if im biased but I am German so :)
I lived in Germany at the time, and I had the pleasure of watching that game in an outdoor public viewing area. I was impressed that even after die Mannschaft started to obliterate Brazil, the German fans were generally not gloating. If anything, they seemed to almost feel pity for the Brailizians. Good job showing real class in victory, Germany.
@@eurodoc6343 I was so mad when they allowed Brazil to score a goal near the end of the game :)
It was claimed the London Olympics would benefit sports in the entire county, but up here in the North East as expected there wasn't much real change.
If it ain’t Londinium the ruling class doesn’t care about it.
South Africa and Russia pretty much did well in keeping their World Cup infrastructure functional.
As a Germany football fan (since my country's team never makes it to the Cup), we were equally dumbfounded at the results of that last game with Brazil too, though our disbelief was admittedly tempered with a touch of comedy rather than horror. 😞
Can anyone point to a single positive outcome for the locals?
Sort off, the world cup scandal gave more reasons for the impeachment process against Dilma (the current president of that time). She was a no good incompetent person who had to leave before damage was done...though taking out one incompetent president doesn't mean taking out the established system of corruption my country suffers from to this day.
National pride, a boost to local sport prestige (not only football), upgrade of infrastructure, temporary increase in employment are the most obvious ones, although quite difficult to quantify. The financial cost is way too big, but the positives are still there.
@@watcherit1311 not for national pride since we lost 7-1 to Germany marking our most shameful defeat ever in a football match. Our pride was crushed and only recovered back when we won the 2016 Olympic gold medal for soccer which was the last major title our country needed to be truly called the Nation of Football.
Well, Dilma Rousseff was thrown off, which was good, but nothing much better than that. The crisis caused by the world cup is still ravaging the country, *seven years later*
@@nicolasceresoli9121 Was that really a fault of arenas? Winning medals is not enough for a true Nation of football - hosting football events is kinda important as well. I would argue that hosting a major world wide football event is more prestigious than a medal (which Brasil has plenty of anyway).
Next up: How well the Rio Olympics (only 2 years later) went and where is all that money now?
I'm sorry but you don't hold international events places where they tell you not to drink the water. Or in the case of Rio tell the swimmers not to swim with their mouth open lmao
Rio got the Olympics by promising to clean up their water pollution. That never happened and it is believed that the money earmarked for that went to graft.
@@Jimvanhise they were also supposed to build new accommodations for all the competitors and guests, staff, etc and when teams started showing up there were a whole lot of half finished, broken or unusable rooms in the "Village" the athletes were supposed to stay in. Broken plumbing, water leaking through the ceilings (rain in Rio???), no electricity... wasn't it like a dozen countries including US, UK, Australia, etc all stuck their teams in hotels and hired contractors to fix their suites?
Dear Simon: You should do a Casual Criminalist or Biographics video on FIFA and the evil it embodies.
Many people even forget where was that sports event in 2014, but no one will forget the 1-7
Please do the 2010 world cup. Our roads network is still a problem, railway system is non existing and the two power stations that should've been completed before 2010 is still not even close to done....
Where was that?
@@cashkitty3472 Sunny corrupt South Africa
Stop lying all the stadium are being used
@@karabomoyahalive7823 when last wwere they used bud. Except for the current lions series at Cape Town stadium, please tell me when these stadiums are being used!!!
@@burt2525 last season Cape town city is using the stadium
Beautiful country.
Beautiful people.
Corruption keeps people poor in Brazil.
2:45 I have no idea what they are saying in that video, but its sooo funny.
as always,,,,prefecto
The Sochi Olympics in Russia were just as awful.
I had Simon talking at more than 1x speed. Just no. Too intense.
Im looking to the "abandoned" Arena da Amazônia right now... with their roof lights on. :) Opppssss!
It is my duty as a german to add "Heeeeheeeeeheeeee" to the end of this video ;)