The majority of religious people I interact with find some kind of satisfaction when I say "I don't know" to a question, as though it proves they are justified in their belief.
It’s a desperate attempt to understand where your evidentiary line is and to see if they can lower the standard and move the goal post towards them. It’s lazy thinking, transparent dishonesty and is their coping mechanism for talking to a free thinker
I've heard at least two calls where you could actually hear the rustling of papers as they fumbled through their script. That adds comedic value to it for me. But maybe I'm an ass :)
Another word Salad Man! The sort of buffoon who talks a whole lot of mumbo-jumbo, in an effort to bamboozle the weak minded! Sure! This might work for Jordan Peterson! But even he would fail when faced with these two! Indeed, Matt has already won that very encounter already!
@corringhamdepot4434 - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) taught missionary students not to answer problematic questions a mark....uh, possible convert asked, but to answer the simple question you WISHED they asked. It's the distraction technique magicians use. We were taught that "lying for the Lord" was perfectly acceptable. I guess there are only 9 REAL Commandments? (I don't know if they still teach missionaries this because I bailed out long ago.)
This is what happens when presuppositional apologists forget that anyone can presuppose anything, and that their presuppositions aren't actually special
@@kitchencarvings4621 *Mar Mari Emmanuel:* Was attacked by a muslim for saying that Jesus is god and muhammad was a false prophet *Atheists here:* Will never ever put their life at risk for anything, but will throw a tantrum when someone refuses to use their prefered pronoun because compelled speech is unconstitutional slavery Is there anything more disgusting than pdf file atheists?
@@DissedRedEngieI’d call it a Trinity Burger. Three taste-free calorie-free nothing burgers is equal to one taste-free calorie-free nothing burger. Where’s the beef?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable Atheist means "without god". Genocide is not evil in the religious sense, there is no devil. But genocide is immoral and unethical. If you think the only reason you should not kill people is because of a higher being watching you I would call you out as a bad human being. It is very scary to me that there are people out there with that exact position: "They would murder and kill if no punishment is to be expected". Scary.
But, there must be a most perfect being out of all beings, and that being must be totally perfect otherwise it wouldn't be most perfect, and that is god. And think about the heart-shaped stones, therefore the Ark, therefore Mozes, therefore god, like in the digits of pi and the Golden ratio. Come on bro, you know it in your heart already. .. Ehm
After 2 cups of coffee every morning, I give birth to at least 3 atheists. They are usually very greasy, stinky, and a big mess. I'm aware of God. Matt,, and all atheists, have proven to me that Satan exists, and by default God exists. I hate to see it that way but it is true that Matt is a liar.
That's because Matt won't shut up, we already know we are not going to agree with this guy, let us m put his stupid case forward . If only Matt would keep his ego in check.
@@mikhem1962 Yeah, sometimes I think this also. Sometimes I want to hear the mumbo-jumbo. insane stuff these smooth brains choke out so I can have a good laugh at them. But to give Matt credit, he's been talking to these crackpots for over 20 years, and, quite frankly, I think he's sick of their shit. It's gone from amusing, to scoffing, to ridicule to anger to pure rage for him I think. If I want to hear someone make fun of their dumbass comments, and have a chuckle, I go to Sir Sic.
@@mikhem1962 Matt makes his career as a liar, like all atheists. I can't believe it is 2024 and there are still stupid people that keep pretending that God doesn't exist despite all of the evidence that He exists. Atheists are to be pitied as they share the burden of trying to get by with lying to themselves. Matt won't be thinking in terms of seconds but in terms of eternal painful punishment.
@@mikhem1962 the guy wouldn’t shut up about the meaning of life, and wouldn’t answer the question or defend his position after he was asked multiple times. Anyone would lose their temper a little bit, especially matt who’s been doing this shit for decades and has heard the same talking points over and over again.
and boaring ?🙄 at the moment i wouldn't mind DIANA calling back. at least she's not a Boar and might even come up with another trauma event about becoming a strange Masaya or something. 😂@@johnjordan3314
@@pantherinae_art My uncle was achromatopsia (sees no color at all, just black, white, and shades of grey, like a perpetual 1940s film). He must have been an actual PROPHET! I guess I should have listened to him more....
@@pantherinae_art Some people, called pdf file atheists, believe that men can menstruate and give birth, other people who are normal know that nowhere in history has this been true, therefore atheist religion is fake and scam
He wasn't trying to prove Xtianity true, he was trying to convince Matt, Jimmy and the audience that his flawed thinking is not wrong, therefore Xtianity is true because he is right. Basic mental gymnastics. And not very impresive ones.
That's what a lot of their philosophical arguments boil down to. Rationalizing their beliefs, not really proving their beliefs but just rationalizing them.
"You're wrong, so I must be right!" is a very short sentence with a *startling* number of logical fallacies embedded considering it's only 7 words long. Black and white thinking Begging the question Appeal to ignorance That's a start. What did I miss?
Presup Apologists/hard soliphists in a nut-shell. AHA! You have 3 "unjustified beliefs" (identity, non contradiction, excluded middle), but my 4th assertion of GOD is the answer. Or. Ha, you can't prove we aren't brains in a vat, so you have no way to know anything, but because "I" believe in this all powerful grounding thing, I do have knowledge. All just attempts to poison the well, begin special pleading and when pressed argue: "no True Scotsman".
The really disturbing ones are like "God is going to save the world so climate change doesn't matter, we can ruin the world because Jesus will save us" (the same rhetoric is deployed more rarely, but identically, by people who believe the universe is a simulation
I'm ex-Mormon and everything the caller was saying is something EXACTLY what I would have heard at church or someone saying at a Fireside talk. Get outta here!! 😂
Indoctrination feels great when everyone else around you agrees, nods and compliments you on your indoctrination. But once you really stop to think about it, really look about and start thinking. It quickly falls apart. I feel really sorry for the people that either can't or don't want to critically think in this way. And I feel even more sorry for the people who do and still get it wrong.
@@Andrew-pv8oz I didnt either, at first. But eventually, I started to pity them. I've been watching Matt for a while now, and he is REALLY good at breaking through their cognitive dissonance and hitting their core. Most of these theists pretty much fall at the first hurdle, but they absolutely refuse to admit they have no good reason to believe what they do, they just do anyway because they was taught that by a parent, or a significant mentor. Deep down they know they can't admit that because even they know thats a crappy reason do so. They've internalized the knowledge and will pretty much do back-flips to protect that. Its not a bad thing really, its a dishonest and untrue one tho, and THAT is what I pity. That they go through life believe a BS lie, and never questioning or even really seeing the beauty of the universe for what it is.
@@Ooshgaar I like the word pity more.l, that has a better ring to it to describe Christians. Have you heard of anosognosia? It’s fascinating the similarities between religious people and that numerological condition
When I was a Christian I was aware that all religions made similar claims about reality, and I COULD be wrong about mine being the true faith. This gentleman, unfortunately, seems to have never grasped this concept. The myopic nature of (many) theists is so sad.
How comfortable were you with evangelising? I was like this too, and I was terrible at the spreading the gospel part, because I felt like I didn't have a leg to stand on if the person didn't immediately agree with my version 😅. I mostly just gave people tracks and invited them to attend, answered questions, etc, but could never insist with anyone.
Yeah, that's why the only ones ever to step up just kept saying "I'll answer your question when you answer mine". Of course, it was a question that nobody knows the answer to 😂
(One of) Theo's problems is he's not thinking, he's working off a script. Maybe not a literal physical one, but he has to change every question because he doesn't know how to engage with the concepts, he can only repeat back nonsense he's heard when he hears a trigger word
I've noticed the same flaw in current so-called AI technology. It's very good at regurgitating information, but can't reason worth a damn because it doesn't understand anything.
@@wizardsuth AI was born in the 1600s. Corporations are AI. So-called contemporary AI is more like the continuation of automated labor from the industrial revolution.
@@wizardsuth I keep saying this to my student, and they just skip the "doesn't understand any concept" part. Just like the people here. I guess they can't imagine that if the delivery is so human-like, the actual grasp of the text can be an absolute zero. But that's exactly what A.I. researchers say, despite how anti-marketing it sounds for them.
Love this. I often ask theists, "what did god do on the 7th day? They reply "he rested". I ask "Is God all-powerful?" They reply "yes". And then I smile. Eventually, it'll come to them.
@@larryl2406 Unfortunately for all of us, it will never come to them because they choose to believe because they want to. It's the crutch they need to escape from the reality that no one is coming to save them and no one on a supernatural plane is watching over them. I always ask if your god is all powerful then why create the loophole around hell instead of just eliminating it? The answer, if any of it were real, is because their god WANTS to burn souls in hell for eternity and it seems as if that was "his" purpose off rip. ✌️
@@LainLinux Atheist religion, like islame, rejects free will. Which means, there is zero accountability, zero responsibility in these religions. It also means, that any word which implies accountability or responsibility, or, which has connection to Christianity, any of such word does not exist in atheist religion. Like evil, sin guilt, shame, and even forgiveness does not exist either. This is why there was nothing evil when mao did away with 70 million people. It was not wicked. Not a sin. Mao should not feel guilty or ashamed. In fact, it was oky dokey.
almost like asking someone to defend one of the most difficult questions we face as humans in 90 seconds is setting them up to fail. It's a horrible format for this kind of debate.
@@VerifiedB Its not even remotely one if the "most difficult questions we face as humans". The apologist is the one who said he can do it in 30 seconds. Why can't apologists stay on topic?
I used to think Matt should be less hostile, but after being exhausted by the complete lack of reasoning ability by every single caller , for years now, and realizing these callers vote, I wish Matt would be even more hostile .
Matt often lets callers ramble on for too long when he should have been more abrasive. Sure, he can be a dick sometimes but mostly he just wants a conversation, even if he doesn't agree with what they're saying.
@@jshaers96True. Sometimes I think he cuts people off too quickly, and other times he cuts them off way too late. He's a person and isn't perfect. But I think he IS effective overall.
I've become as hostile to people as Matt has. I'm positively sick of stupid. I'll listen long enough to get a coherent argument, but if you're not presenting one I'm going to get like these guys. And this goes for more than just religion. I'm so tired of people that don't know anything spouting off about everything and being confident about it. The average person can't even form an original, coherent syllogism.
Or have predetermined there has to be a happy ending, an afterlife, how an eternity with jesus seems paradise for billions is beyond me?! , it's so sad! The thought of dying and ceasing to exist is just too much for theists.
Or...Imagine think an all powerful god can cause massive amounts of water to come into existence to flood the world, but that same god can't build a boat.
I remember watching Matt 15 years ago and the fact that he hasn’t spontaneously combusted because of the STUPID callers arguments just proves Gods existence😂😂
@@samhhaincat2703I'm glad these people do because, Not only is It entertaining. It also literally Makes them poster Boys for why religion, and believe in God is nonsense.
He must be OK at *something* to fulfil the meaning of his life. From this performance his meaning could be a newly hired line-cook in training of the word-salad bar, once he ditches these way too large words that he is too lazy to chop into more digestible units - and I understand, the rest of his word salad just is not satisfying and he knows it. I have read more meaning looking into a bowl of alphabet-pasta soup.
21:49 "The only valid epistemology is a revelatory epistemology." -- he says over a global electronic information network. People didn't invent computers and other technologies by praying for revealed knowledge. They examined the evidence, noticed patterns, made models to explain those patterns, and tested those models against reality.
Not to mention that it's a straight up wishful thinking and begging the question. Sure, it'd be nice if someone could just give me truth, but I still have to believe beforehand that what it gives is true, or that such being existed at all, which can't be justified without assuming outright. Also, it's basically from "If god A exists, then knowledge is possible and meaningful (because it would reveal knowledge to humans.)" to "if god A doesn't exist, then knowledge is not possible nor meaning." which is basically denying the antecedent, a formal fallacy. Why presuppositionalism is a thing at all is beyond me. Well, it's most likely just a retention tool, not conversion tool, I believe.
And "revelatory epistemology" is something one should immediately reject since even if possible (how would that work?) the source of such revelations are basically impossible to confirm.
Track record of "revelation" on empirical success: 0.01% (I mean, even a broken clock gets it right two seconds each day.) In the delusional rhetoric of Christian apologetics, "revelation" is a vastly superior way of acquiring knowledge - while in reality even a third grade science textbook displays actual knowledge that is vastly superior to anything an everything in the Bible (or the Qur'an, or the Vedic scriptures, or any other religious holy book on the planet). And this isn't some big secret - it's exceedingly obvious and everyone, including Christians, knows this, but Christians cannot break out of the mental script of their religious framework.
I kinda hate how I keep hoping for an even slightly novel, argument for any manner of theism that manages to at least sound slightly sound at the surface level. I've been hunting for just shy of 25 years, and I don't think I will have anything new to ponder in this realm in my lifetime. So instead, I focus on trying to figure out how to change theist minds, instead of just "winning" dialogues with them.
I'm not sure how you're going to change their minds any other way than "winning" dialogs with them, in this format anyway. Sure, if you are with them in person you could take them to a natural history museum, or even a library, maybe search for facts on the internet. What has been your best method so far Verdatum? Cool name btw 😊
I agree that novel arguments never crop up. I've heard all the arguments so often that I know all their components. I also know all the objections to all the components, and all the moves that are made to counter all the objections, and all the objections to all those countermoves. I know this stuff the way a chess aficionado knows the classical variations of opening play. All the existent variations in the "can God be justified?" game end in checkmate against theism. The variations in the God game are actually far less complex than the variations in chess. I gave up on chess many years ago, but the God game is simple enough to appeal to somebody with my more limited patience. However, at this point, it's just getting boring. I've been asking myself for a long time-- "Do they have any gambits that haven't long ago been conclusively deconstructed?" Apparently not. They have a small handful of "sophisticated" players like William Lane Craig, but all these supposed "masters" are running the same old lines of play disguised with irrelevant detours and arabesque decorations. Every once in while they come up with a new sneaky equivocation or a new way to misinterpret some finding in cosmology or general physics, but that's it-- it's all easy to expose. Disappointing.
@@donnievance1942 Theists rely on the supernatural to exist for their dogma to be true right so what do you say when they bring up quantum entanglement and Einstein's "Spooky actions at a distance?"
@@TheTruthKiwiI would say that is nearly entirely irrelevant to proving or evidencing that a god exists, which is the absolute first step we must take in order to discuss whether the Bible and its claims are true or false, whether or not everybody should be preached to about it, whether that god is omnipotent or a random supernatural entity, whether they created the universe, and everything related to whichever religion is up for debate.
An oldie but a goodie: " “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” ― Epicurus"
"Do you know what time it is?" "We must first discuss epistemology and the grounding of knowledge from an ontological standpoint, because when light reflects off an apple…"
OK Caller.. you can pick 30, 60 or 90 seconds to make your case. I'll take the 90, but first I'm just going to waste so much time with questions instead of proving my claim!
"Quick" questions: "What's the meaning of life?" "Define 'knowledge'" Actual argument in favour of Christianity: "Well we need to start with epistemology and ontology. Here is what those things are. For example, if I see an apple vs if you see an apple, Kant thought about it this way: ..." Dude what
When I’m asked what’s the meaning of life I always think of what Hobbs told Calvin when asked the same question. “We’re here to devour each other alive.” Lol! So now I always use that one.
Theo, in his infinite lack of wisdom or understanding probably thinks Matt and Jimmy just weren’t listening or were unwilling to listen. Theo is not ok
0:57 _"what do you guys think of the meaning of life?"_ I think it's a hilarious Monty Python movie, although I'll be honest and say I prefer _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_ or _Life of __-Brain-__ Brian._ P.S. - Syslexia ducks...
@@YalandaKelly give women a shred of credit. I've never met one who would procreate with Theo and I haven't even seen him. He might look like Ryan gosling but he at least has to be able to have a halfway decent conversation to get laid, so I think we're safe
@@PhilSophia-ox7epno it is a word salad because the one spouting it didnt understand. He was unable to coherently form sentences even. He should not have called in if that was his best.
It cracks me up when they say God is perfect - the very beginning of the Bible, he drops the ball twice - why would a perfect God create a talking serpent and rebellious angels?
18:40 he uses the Trinity for the reason Christianity is True and not the other two Abrahamic religions. I have yet to get a satisfactory answer of how a monotheistic religion has three gods.
Jimmy do you think it might be possible to adjust the volume on your ending stinger? It always seems to be shouting in comparison to the volume of the episode.
@@De_Selby The biological purpose is what i said, but not everything gets to breed, like their are Stags that never get a harem of Does. Their are male lions that never get to rule a pride. The people you said fall under if you can, you can have children and then commit suicide, in terms of nature that's job done, you're genes have a way to pass on.
@@De_Selby If you enter a race, you do so with the intention of winning, not everyone can win. Suicide doesn't stop you breeding as you can breed before doing it.
@@inyobill There are exceptions, wired different, life experience, environment not being right etc. But life is born to birth again in a continuous cycle.
it's clear that callers like Theo have no idea what syllogism is, or even evidence for that matter.. they just wanna ramble on and on.. and never say anything in the end
It never fails that these people who say they can present evidence for Christianity or God always start out with a question. Actual evidence does not require someone to answer a question before it can be presented.
So many of these callers are just repeating a script that they don't even fully understand. After all these years my reaction is a lot like Matt's on this video. Why these shows even entertain these callers, I'm not sure I can imagine at this point.
@@mattbrook-lee7732They've had some pretty decent conversations that didn't get crazy, and ended with the caller feeling lile they needed to come back after looking it some things a bit more. Those calls are fantastic.
Okay fine. Knowledge is something I can not be wrong about. I have knowledge that there is no god that aids me in my life. This means I can not be wrong about this, therefore no god has ever aided me in life. Due to this any god that says they will aid all humankind is false by definition. The Christian god is such a god therefore Christianity is false.
“The meaning of life is whatever you make it”. Exactly. Douglas Adams (Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) wrote about a super computer that determined the meaning of life is “42”. Douglas Adams was a really cool geek. 42 in ASCII data encoding is considered a wild card. So he’s saying the meaning of life is “whatever you want it to be”. I love this little piece of trivia.
17:46 Years ago, when i studied philosophy, i precisely remember our ancient philosophy prof literally telling us " _intelligiblity_ is a term no one uses in speech, only those who want to sound fancy smart". Just putting it out there.. 'cause yep, i was the one who brought it up in a sentence ;]
Doesn't matter if you give him 90 seconds or 90 years, he would not able prove his particular delusional belief. That's the same with all people that believe in their particular religion.
I always call the "god put us here for a purpose" or "meaning of life" arguments as the Waste Management Technician argument. Does god make some people because the world has doody that needs shovelling? What about people who are born into poverty and suffering and never get an opportunity to make a meaningful impact in the world. Did god create them just for that?
When I’m asked what are we here for I always go to the Calvin and Hobbs comic. Calvin asks him why are we here, Hobbs calmly answers “We’re here to devour each other alive.” Good answer from a tiger. Lol
It's worse than that. Following the argument from scripture through to its logical conclusion, the christian god specifically created some people to save (the "elect" - Ephesians 1:4-5, Romans 8:29, Matthew 22:14, Mark 13:27, etc.) and everyone else to burn in hell, just because he could.
In a two host show every hang up should be agreed by both, save exceptional cases. It's really annoying when one of the two just gets fed up and hangs up while the other still wanted to continue.
He's finding it difficult to grasp the analogy involving an apple as evidence for Christianity and his convictions. It appears he's struggling to articulate his religious beliefs succinctly, acknowledging that his faith is primarily rooted in personal feelings rather than concrete evidence.
Sometimes I too struggle with the fact that my empirical knowledge and feelings don't appear to match, Theo. As uncomfortable as it is sometimes, my preferred solution is to examine my beliefs and adjust them to fit the evidence. I guess talking total BS and refusing to listen is an option too though.
You guys have to be more patient and gracious. I am an ex Mormon, proud Atheist, but swearing and loosing your patience and cutting people off will never change anyone's mind. Your great minds but pick up your humility game. Change people's mind like Sam Harris don't throw your intellectual toys and have tantrums
Ive just came up with an idea. wouldnt it be funny to have 2 people from different religions like mormon and christianity or islam and hinduism debate eachother and try to prove to eachother whos God is the correct one.
I'm starting to think that Theo might actually be the omnipotent one. He was able to reach through time and space, and give me a migraine that will take days to recover from. I can't help but wonder if his power to heal matches his power to afflict. Well played, Sir; you are truly diabolical in your genius. ;-)
I'm no philosopher, as I actually have a job, but I've never heard a convincing argument that would suggest that "purpose" or "meaning" are necessary. What would change my mind?
Quite the stunning case for Christianity made without mentioning Christ, his supposed resurrection, or any of the other magical beliefs unique to that particular evolution of Judaism.
It's always entertaining when they have a paper prepared and they'll present that paper one way or another... mostly because when they're thrown from their script (which always sounds like someone trying to talk to their crush for the first time), they don't have anything left.
That "90" seconds proves conclusively that eternal torment is real.
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That sums it up nicely.
That sums it up nicely.
yeah listening to that 90-second explanation felt like eternal torture
Hahahahahahaha
I'm frustrated by folks who say they will provide reasons to believe and all they do is ask questions.
The majority of religious people I interact with find some kind of satisfaction when I say "I don't know" to a question, as though it proves they are justified in their belief.
It’s a desperate attempt to understand where your evidentiary line is and to see if they can lower the standard and move the goal post towards them.
It’s lazy thinking, transparent dishonesty and is their coping mechanism for talking to a free thinker
I share the same frustration with question-askers. It’s maddening.
It’s because they have no good answer and going straight to strawman
@@NotFromUtahRy Questions are like the dumb n stuff
This guy called in with a speech on paper ready to go, and once the dialogue tree diverged from it he didn't know what else to say.
That is incredibly common with theists these days.
I've heard at least two calls where you could actually hear the rustling of papers as they fumbled through their script.
That adds comedic value to it for me. But maybe I'm an ass :)
He'll have to ask his pastor for some more, and pay cash for it, of course.
That's usually the case when people read from a script instead of coughing up evidence or reasons why they believe.
Another word Salad Man! The sort of buffoon who talks a whole lot of mumbo-jumbo, in an effort to bamboozle the weak minded!
Sure! This might work for Jordan Peterson! But even he would fail when faced with these two! Indeed, Matt has already won that very encounter already!
"I have a quick question first: what's the meaning of life?"
😂😂😂
42
@@PeerAdder I agree with 42, but one could also say that the obvious meaning of life.. is to LIVE it.
It's a Monty Python film.
@@Goldenhawk583
That's exactly what Wilhelm Reich wrote.
@@MR-intel Had to look him up:) Not sure I agree with all he said though, would have to read more about him to know.
Seems that a basic characteristic of both Christians and Politicians is to never answer a straight question with a straight answer.
Because you can't defend nonsense !!
@@timelord7340 nonsense... nonsense? Oh... _nonsense,_ like when pdf file atheists claim that men can give birth?
@corringhamdepot4434 - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons) taught missionary students not to answer problematic questions a mark....uh, possible convert asked, but to answer the simple question you WISHED they asked. It's the distraction technique magicians use. We were taught that "lying for the Lord" was perfectly acceptable. I guess there are only 9 REAL Commandments?
(I don't know if they still teach missionaries this because I bailed out long ago.)
Ironically fundamentalists love to answer a gay question with a straight answer.
@@timelord7340Tell maga that!
This is what happens when presuppositional apologists forget that anyone can presuppose anything, and that their presuppositions aren't actually special
Fantastic. May I plagerize that quote now and again?
@@AGoodBuzz go for it!
Take them off their script and they are lost.
@@kitchencarvings4621
*Mar Mari Emmanuel:* Was attacked by a muslim for saying that Jesus is god and muhammad was a false prophet
*Atheists here:* Will never ever put their life at risk for anything, but will throw a tantrum when someone refuses to use their prefered pronoun because compelled speech is unconstitutional slavery
Is there anything more disgusting than pdf file atheists?
"Wanna go grab lunch?" "No, thanks, I filled up on word salad just now."
Except that salad was made up of the most emptiest of empty calories
@@Emelefpi so it was a nothing burger instead?
@@DissedRedEngieI’d call it a Trinity Burger. Three taste-free calorie-free nothing burgers is equal to one taste-free calorie-free nothing burger. Where’s the beef?
According to atheist religion, Why is cannibalism not evil?
My argument for Christianity: uh ah oh uh well you see ugh...
Within the first 5 seconds of him talking I knew he was in for a rough time.
Poor Kid.
All I heard was "no, we don't need to use lube".
I was really hoping for some sort of discussion tbh.
@@Skydv2005 According to atheist religion, Why is genocide not evil?
Should we ask stalin? mao? lenin? pol pot?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable Atheist means "without god".
Genocide is not evil in the religious sense, there is no devil. But genocide is immoral and unethical.
If you think the only reason you should not kill people is because of a higher being watching you I would call you out as a bad human being.
It is very scary to me that there are people out there with that exact position: "They would murder and kill if no punishment is to be expected". Scary.
ive beeb listening to Matt for many years and I have never heard a rational argument for any god.
It's there, you just gotta believe!
C’mon, buddy, just look at the trees!🤣🤣
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Creation cries out for the creator 🤣
Bro, god cured my cat’s arthritis. 😅
But, there must be a most perfect being out of all beings, and that being must be totally perfect otherwise it wouldn't be most perfect, and that is god.
And think about the heart-shaped stones, therefore the Ark, therefore Mozes, therefore god, like in the digits of pi and the Golden ratio.
Come on bro, you know it in your heart already.
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Ehm
The meaning of life is simple: We enjoy delicious things and turn them into poop. It's often fun to invite friends to the first part of this ritual.
And if you find some extra special ones, they even like the second part too. 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
After 2 cups of coffee every morning, I give birth to at least 3 atheists. They are usually very greasy, stinky, and a big mess. I'm aware of God. Matt,, and all atheists, have proven to me that Satan exists, and by default God exists. I hate to see it that way but it is true that Matt is a liar.
"It's often fun to invite friends to partake in one of those things."
I feel a pinch of ambiguity adds much flavor to your poetic take on life 😂
@@apackofhoboes 2 religions, 1 cup, right? :)
I was not ready for the 90 seconds to last 11 minutes.
That's because Matt won't shut up, we already know we are not going to agree with this guy, let us m put his stupid case forward . If only Matt would keep his ego in check.
@@mikhem1962 Yeah, sometimes I think this also. Sometimes I want to hear the mumbo-jumbo. insane stuff these smooth brains choke out so I can have a good laugh at them.
But to give Matt credit, he's been talking to these crackpots for over 20 years, and, quite frankly, I think he's sick of their shit. It's gone from amusing, to scoffing, to ridicule to anger to pure rage for him I think.
If I want to hear someone make fun of their dumbass comments, and have a chuckle, I go to Sir Sic.
@@mikhem1962 Matt makes his career as a liar, like all atheists. I can't believe it is 2024 and there are still stupid people that keep pretending that God doesn't exist despite all of the evidence that He exists. Atheists are to be pitied as they share the burden of trying to get by with lying to themselves. Matt won't be thinking in terms of seconds but in terms of eternal painful punishment.
@@mikhem1962 the guy wouldn’t shut up about the meaning of life, and wouldn’t answer the question or defend his position after he was asked multiple times. Anyone would lose their temper a little bit, especially matt who’s been doing this shit for decades and has heard the same talking points over and over again.
@@shwamp33 then don't run a call in show. Matt's just getting in the way now.
Presuppositional apologetics is a waste of time.
OMG this!!! Presuppositionalists are biggest waste of time.
At this point, all apologetics is.
and boaring ?🙄 at the moment i wouldn't mind DIANA calling back. at least she's not a Boar and might even come up with another trauma event about becoming a strange Masaya or something. 😂@@johnjordan3314
Literally, that's the entire point
@830toAwesome
"Presuppositional apologetics is a waste of time." Only if you pre suppose that!!! Checkmate atheists!
Some people see an apple and think its red, other people see the same apple and think its grey, therefore Christianity is real. k
You've changed my entire worldview! If only someone pointed out colourblind people looking at apples to me years ago!! 😬
@@pantherinae_art My uncle was achromatopsia (sees no color at all, just black, white, and shades of grey, like a perpetual 1940s film). He must have been an actual PROPHET! I guess I should have listened to him more....
Right 😂😂😂 I'm totally convinced now
@@pantherinae_art Some people, called pdf file atheists, believe that men can menstruate and give birth, other people who are normal know that nowhere in history has this been true, therefore atheist religion is fake and scam
Checkmate, atheists!
He wasn't trying to prove Xtianity true, he was trying to convince Matt, Jimmy and the audience that his flawed thinking is not wrong, therefore Xtianity is true because he is right. Basic mental gymnastics. And not very impresive ones.
That's what a lot of their philosophical arguments boil down to. Rationalizing their beliefs, not really proving their beliefs but just rationalizing them.
"You're wrong, so I must be right!" is a very short sentence with a *startling* number of logical fallacies embedded considering it's only 7 words long.
Black and white thinking
Begging the question
Appeal to ignorance
That's a start. What did I miss?
Presup Apologists/hard soliphists in a nut-shell. AHA! You have 3 "unjustified beliefs" (identity, non contradiction, excluded middle), but my 4th assertion of GOD is the answer. Or. Ha, you can't prove we aren't brains in a vat, so you have no way to know anything, but because "I" believe in this all powerful grounding thing, I do have knowledge.
All just attempts to poison the well, begin special pleading and when pressed argue: "no True Scotsman".
The really disturbing ones are like "God is going to save the world so climate change doesn't matter, we can ruin the world because Jesus will save us" (the same rhetoric is deployed more rarely, but identically, by people who believe the universe is a simulation
Wonder how this Dude Socializes with friends or people on the average.
I'm ex-Mormon and everything the caller was saying is something EXACTLY what I would have heard at church or someone saying at a Fireside talk. Get outta here!! 😂
Same here!
Indoctrination feels great when everyone else around you agrees, nods and compliments you on your indoctrination. But once you really stop to think about it, really look about and start thinking. It quickly falls apart. I feel really sorry for the people that either can't or don't want to critically think in this way. And I feel even more sorry for the people who do and still get it wrong.
@@Ooshgaar don’t feel sorry for them
@@Andrew-pv8oz I didnt either, at first. But eventually, I started to pity them. I've been watching Matt for a while now, and he is REALLY good at breaking through their cognitive dissonance and hitting their core. Most of these theists pretty much fall at the first hurdle, but they absolutely refuse to admit they have no good reason to believe what they do, they just do anyway because they was taught that by a parent, or a significant mentor. Deep down they know they can't admit that because even they know thats a crappy reason do so. They've internalized the knowledge and will pretty much do back-flips to protect that. Its not a bad thing really, its a dishonest and untrue one tho, and THAT is what I pity. That they go through life believe a BS lie, and never questioning or even really seeing the beauty of the universe for what it is.
@@Ooshgaar I like the word pity more.l, that has a better ring to it to describe Christians. Have you heard of anosognosia? It’s fascinating the similarities between religious people and that numerological condition
When I was a Christian I was aware that all religions made similar claims about reality, and I COULD be wrong about mine being the true faith. This gentleman, unfortunately, seems to have never grasped this concept. The myopic nature of (many) theists is so sad.
Out of all the religions and different beliefs of what God is and God isn't ..they can't all be correct but they all could be wrong....and they are
Only Christ is different
@@arjankremer8229 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️
How comfortable were you with evangelising? I was like this too, and I was terrible at the spreading the gospel part, because I felt like I didn't have a leg to stand on if the person didn't immediately agree with my version 😅. I mostly just gave people tracks and invited them to attend, answered questions, etc, but could never insist with anyone.
@@rochelebierhalspereira7106 Fortunately I was catholic, so we were never really expected to do any of that.
I think Theo was just expecting to run the presup script: he got a lesson in why presups try not to *answer* questions.
Yeah, that's why the only ones ever to step up just kept saying "I'll answer your question when you answer mine".
Of course, it was a question that nobody knows the answer to 😂
"I'll gladly answer your question in a moment but first..."
@@Nerobyrne According to atheist religion,
Why is incest not wrong?
Why is cannibalism not wrong?
Why is necrophilia not wrong?
(One of) Theo's problems is he's not thinking, he's working off a script. Maybe not a literal physical one, but he has to change every question because he doesn't know how to engage with the concepts, he can only repeat back nonsense he's heard when he hears a trigger word
Theists don't think. They regurgitate dumb nonsense.
I've noticed the same flaw in current so-called AI technology. It's very good at regurgitating information, but can't reason worth a damn because it doesn't understand anything.
@@wizardsuth that's a very interesting observation
@@wizardsuth AI was born in the 1600s. Corporations are AI. So-called contemporary AI is more like the continuation of automated labor from the industrial revolution.
@@wizardsuth I keep saying this to my student, and they just skip the "doesn't understand any concept" part. Just like the people here.
I guess they can't imagine that if the delivery is so human-like, the actual grasp of the text can be an absolute zero. But that's exactly what A.I. researchers say, despite how anti-marketing it sounds for them.
If I were all powerful it wouldn't take me 6 days to do anything.
Love this. I often ask theists, "what did god do on the 7th day? They reply "he rested". I ask "Is God all-powerful?" They reply "yes". And then I smile. Eventually, it'll come to them.
@@larryl2406 Unfortunately for all of us, it will never come to them because they choose to believe because they want to. It's the crutch they need to escape from the reality that no one is coming to save them and no one on a supernatural plane is watching over them.
I always ask if your god is all powerful then why create the loophole around hell instead of just eliminating it?
The answer, if any of it were real, is because their god WANTS to burn souls in hell for eternity and it seems as if that was "his" purpose off rip.
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Sometimes you really do need 24 hours before the top coat….
And I would t need to rest
That's why the Earth isn't completely smooth. God didn't wait for the primer to dry and sand it before he did the final coat. Rookie mistake.
I love when someone who hasn't even taken Logic 101 thinks he's going to give a lecture on philosophy.
Every theist caller summed up.
That Darth Dawkins
@@coletrickle1775 According to atheist religion, Why was it not evil when lenin tortured people?
@@AtheistReligionIsCancerthere is no such thing as an atheist religion, i feel like your a bait account but ill bite
@@LainLinux Atheist religion, like islame, rejects free will. Which means, there is zero accountability, zero responsibility in these religions. It also means, that any word which implies accountability or responsibility, or, which has connection to Christianity, any of such word does not exist in atheist religion. Like evil, sin guilt, shame, and even forgiveness does not exist either.
This is why there was nothing evil when mao did away with 70 million people. It was not wicked. Not a sin. Mao should not feel guilty or ashamed. In fact, it was oky dokey.
Putting him on a timer where he couldn't ask questions threw him off script.
almost like asking someone to defend one of the most difficult questions we face as humans in 90 seconds is setting them up to fail. It's a horrible format for this kind of debate.
@@VerifiedB
Its not even remotely one if the "most difficult questions we face as humans". The apologist is the one who said he can do it in 30 seconds. Why can't apologists stay on topic?
I used to think Matt should be less hostile, but after being exhausted by the complete lack of reasoning ability by every single caller , for years now, and realizing these callers vote, I wish Matt would be even more hostile .
Matt often lets callers ramble on for too long when he should have been more abrasive. Sure, he can be a dick sometimes but mostly he just wants a conversation, even if he doesn't agree with what they're saying.
I did too at first, but it's usually a justified response to the caller being dishonest or rude.
Same. These people vote to take away the rights of others because their religion tells them to. They have earned the hostility.
@@jshaers96True. Sometimes I think he cuts people off too quickly, and other times he cuts them off way too late.
He's a person and isn't perfect. But I think he IS effective overall.
I've become as hostile to people as Matt has. I'm positively sick of stupid. I'll listen long enough to get a coherent argument, but if you're not presenting one I'm going to get like these guys. And this goes for more than just religion. I'm so tired of people that don't know anything spouting off about everything and being confident about it. The average person can't even form an original, coherent syllogism.
People don't just want meaning in their lives. They want a meaning they like.
Or have predetermined there has to be a happy ending, an afterlife, how an eternity with jesus seems paradise for billions is beyond me?! , it's so sad! The thought of dying and ceasing to exist is just too much for theists.
I like my life meaning.
A god that does not manifest in reality would seem to me to be indistinguishable from a god that does not exist.
Would would think that, wouldn't one. It occurs to me so, only if one is a thinker?
Matt will never have to have a facelift because of how often he has to facepalm with the callers.
😂😂😂
That’s if the stress of illogical arguments doesn’t get to his face first 😢😂
Imagine thinking that an all-powerful god exists, but he needs YOU to convince strangers that he exists.
Like, he can't do it himself?
Yep, like Halloween, imagine being afraid of demons, you can fool by dressing up like a Frankenstein.
@@carolinusTG personally I think people just wanted to party and that was a great excuse 🤔😂
ofc he can, but he doesn't feel like it😉
Or...Imagine think an all powerful god can cause massive amounts of water to come into existence to flood the world, but that same god can't build a boat.
That's the entire point of Faith. He can do it anytime He wants but chooses not too.
I remember watching Matt 15 years ago and the fact that he hasn’t spontaneously combusted because of the STUPID callers arguments just proves Gods existence😂😂
The only one in the garden of eden that didn't lie was the "serpent"
All the caller had was word salad gibberish. What a surprise.
Why do they even call in to this show? It confuses me.
@@samhhaincat2703I'm glad these people do because, Not only is It entertaining. It also literally Makes them poster Boys for why religion, and believe in God is nonsense.
@@samhhaincat2703 What should confuse THEM is why their god LET THEM call into the show and display such utter ignorance on his behalf.
Theo is good at reading off a piece of paper in front of him.
not really he stuttered and clamored and ugh and well and so ithink and blah blah blah get to the point kid... his call was very
annoying..
Theists are good script readers.
He must be OK at *something* to fulfil the meaning of his life. From this performance his meaning could be a newly hired line-cook in training of the word-salad bar, once he ditches these way too large words that he is too lazy to chop into more digestible units - and I understand, the rest of his word salad just is not satisfying and he knows it. I have read more meaning looking into a bowl of alphabet-pasta soup.
Too bad he’s not so good at choosing logical pieces of paper to read from.🤤
@@advorak8529 According to atheist religion, Why was it not evil when mao zedong did away with 70 million people?
21:49 "The only valid epistemology is a revelatory epistemology." -- he says over a global electronic information network. People didn't invent computers and other technologies by praying for revealed knowledge. They examined the evidence, noticed patterns, made models to explain those patterns, and tested those models against reality.
Not to mention that it's a straight up wishful thinking and begging the question. Sure, it'd be nice if someone could just give me truth, but I still have to believe beforehand that what it gives is true, or that such being existed at all, which can't be justified without assuming outright. Also, it's basically from "If god A exists, then knowledge is possible and meaningful (because it would reveal knowledge to humans.)" to "if god A doesn't exist, then knowledge is not possible nor meaning." which is basically denying the antecedent, a formal fallacy.
Why presuppositionalism is a thing at all is beyond me.
Well, it's most likely just a retention tool, not conversion tool, I believe.
And "revelatory epistemology" is something one should immediately reject since even if possible (how would that work?) the source of such revelations are basically impossible to confirm.
Track record of "revelation" on empirical success: 0.01% (I mean, even a broken clock gets it right two seconds each day.)
In the delusional rhetoric of Christian apologetics, "revelation" is a vastly superior way of acquiring knowledge - while in reality even a third grade science textbook displays actual knowledge that is vastly superior to anything an everything in the Bible (or the Qur'an, or the Vedic scriptures, or any other religious holy book on the planet). And this isn't some big secret - it's exceedingly obvious and everyone, including Christians, knows this, but Christians cannot break out of the mental script of their religious framework.
I kinda hate how I keep hoping for an even slightly novel, argument for any manner of theism that manages to at least sound slightly sound at the surface level. I've been hunting for just shy of 25 years, and I don't think I will have anything new to ponder in this realm in my lifetime. So instead, I focus on trying to figure out how to change theist minds, instead of just "winning" dialogues with them.
I'm not sure how you're going to change their minds any other way than "winning" dialogs with them, in this format anyway.
Sure, if you are with them in person you could take them to a natural history museum, or even a library, maybe search for facts on the internet.
What has been your best method so far Verdatum? Cool name btw 😊
I’ve been waiting 66 years for any logical argument for god.
I agree that novel arguments never crop up. I've heard all the arguments so often that I know all their components. I also know all the objections to all the components, and all the moves that are made to counter all the objections, and all the objections to all those countermoves. I know this stuff the way a chess aficionado knows the classical variations of opening play. All the existent variations in the "can God be justified?" game end in checkmate against theism. The variations in the God game are actually far less complex than the variations in chess. I gave up on chess many years ago, but the God game is simple enough to appeal to somebody with my more limited patience. However, at this point, it's just getting boring. I've been asking myself for a long time-- "Do they have any gambits that haven't long ago been conclusively deconstructed?" Apparently not. They have a small handful of "sophisticated" players like William Lane Craig, but all these supposed "masters" are running the same old lines of play disguised with irrelevant detours and arabesque decorations. Every once in while they come up with a new sneaky equivocation or a new way to misinterpret some finding in cosmology or general physics, but that's it-- it's all easy to expose. Disappointing.
@@donnievance1942 Theists rely on the supernatural to exist for their dogma to be true right so what do you say when they bring up quantum entanglement and Einstein's "Spooky actions at a distance?"
@@TheTruthKiwiI would say that is nearly entirely irrelevant to proving or evidencing that a god exists, which is the absolute first step we must take in order to discuss whether the Bible and its claims are true or false, whether or not everybody should be preached to about it, whether that god is omnipotent or a random supernatural entity, whether they created the universe, and everything related to whichever religion is up for debate.
An oldie but a goodie:
" “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
― Epicurus"
EVERY time they start with”Do you believe…”
They fail.
"Do you know what time it is?"
"We must first discuss epistemology and the grounding of knowledge from an ontological standpoint, because when light reflects off an apple…"
OK Caller.. you can pick 30, 60 or 90 seconds to make your case.
I'll take the 90, but first I'm just going to waste so much time with questions instead of proving my claim!
"Quick" questions: "What's the meaning of life?"
"Define 'knowledge'"
Actual argument in favour of Christianity: "Well we need to start with epistemology and ontology. Here is what those things are. For example, if I see an apple vs if you see an apple, Kant thought about it this way: ..."
Dude what
When I’m asked what’s the meaning of life I always think of what Hobbs told Calvin when asked the same question. “We’re here to devour each other alive.” Lol! So now I always use that one.
Completely accurate
I'm sure it sounded much better in his head.
Theo, in his infinite lack of wisdom or understanding probably thinks Matt and Jimmy just weren’t listening or were unwilling to listen. Theo is not ok
Never once in the history of religion was a religyboy capable of answering a question 🙄
And there was was I waiting for the Jewish carpenter to enter stage left ! He must have got stage fright !
Or stage right
Stage left. Stage f...right. Nice.
0:57 _"what do you guys think of the meaning of life?"_
I think it's a hilarious Monty Python movie, although I'll be honest and say I prefer _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_ or _Life of __-Brain-__ Brian._
P.S. - Syslexia ducks...
None shall pass.
and theo gets to vote
Skaface: And he also get to breed. Aint that a scary thought?🥵😣😰
Worse, he even has the right to get a gun license!
@@YalandaKelly give women a shred of credit. I've never met one who would procreate with Theo and I haven't even seen him. He might look like Ryan gosling but he at least has to be able to have a halfway decent conversation to get laid, so I think we're safe
"Ninety second starting now."
"Oh...umm...uhh...well _WORD SALAD GO!_ MENTAL MODEL!"
It isn't a word salad just because you don't understand it.
@@PhilSophia-ox7epno it is a word salad because the one spouting it didnt understand.
He was unable to coherently form sentences even.
He should not have called in if that was his best.
I live in TN and this guy sounds like almost everyone I know. Yes, I realize how sad that sounds.
Matt I was pulling my hair out listening to you walk him through the logic 101 /90second reboot. Lol
It cracks me up when they say God is perfect - the very beginning of the Bible, he drops the ball twice - why would a perfect God create a talking serpent and rebellious angels?
18:40 he uses the Trinity for the reason Christianity is True and not the other two Abrahamic religions. I have yet to get a satisfactory answer of how a monotheistic religion has three gods.
Or how someone who believes in three gods still calls it "monotheism."
"It's a mystery."
"No shit. Your incoherent thinking is a complete mystery."
Jimmy do you think it might be possible to adjust the volume on your ending stinger? It always seems to be shouting in comparison to the volume of the episode.
He was determined to read that word salad script 😂
The meaning of life, the universe and everything is 42.
Its 69.
Meaning of life for pretty much all organisms, live as long as possible, breed/multiply if you can.
What about people who commit suicide or people that do not have kids?
@@De_Selby The biological purpose is what i said, but not everything gets to breed, like their are Stags that never get a harem of Does. Their are male lions that never get to rule a pride. The people you said fall under if you can, you can have children and then commit suicide, in terms of nature that's job done, you're genes have a way to pass on.
Unless your interest is not to procreate.
@@De_Selby If you enter a race, you do so with the intention of winning, not everyone can win. Suicide doesn't stop you breeding as you can breed before doing it.
@@inyobill There are exceptions, wired different, life experience, environment not being right etc. But life is born to birth again in a continuous cycle.
Dropped my Religion when i was 8 years old and for that i thank my self
it's clear that callers like Theo have no idea what syllogism is, or even evidence for that matter.. they just wanna ramble on and on.. and never say anything in the end
It never fails that these people who say they can present evidence for Christianity or God always start out with a question. Actual evidence does not require someone to answer a question before it can be presented.
This was extremely painful.
Well that was a painful meaningless word salad
Theo found this channel today and didn't do any research before he called in. Bless his heart.
So many of these callers are just repeating a script that they don't even fully understand. After all these years my reaction is a lot like Matt's on this video. Why these shows even entertain these callers, I'm not sure I can imagine at this point.
these callers probably walk away thinking they “won”
Easy content.
The whole premise of the show relies on these callers. Rational argument is not entertaining
Not even good readers, about third grade level.
@@mattbrook-lee7732They've had some pretty decent conversations that didn't get crazy, and ended with the caller feeling lile they needed to come back after looking it some things a bit more. Those calls are fantastic.
Okay fine. Knowledge is something I can not be wrong about. I have knowledge that there is no god that aids me in my life. This means I can not be wrong about this, therefore no god has ever aided me in life. Due to this any god that says they will aid all humankind is false by definition. The Christian god is such a god therefore Christianity is false.
I wish this didn't simply induce them into waffling for 17 hours straight about your inherent inability to access knowledge or whatever
@@emdivine They have a script though! You gotta stick to it, God made it so you can’t change it.
Much appreciation and respect for Jimmy and Matt!
I recommend watching at x1.5 speed
It might have some message embedded at minus one times speed...?
Since it hasn't got one playing forward.
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He had a literal script...
“The meaning of life is whatever you make it”. Exactly.
Douglas Adams (Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) wrote about a super computer that determined the meaning of life is “42”.
Douglas Adams was a really cool geek. 42 in ASCII data encoding is considered a wild card. So he’s saying the meaning of life is “whatever you want it to be”.
I love this little piece of trivia.
Wow, I’m so glad I read this comment at this moment in time.
17:46 Years ago, when i studied philosophy, i precisely remember our ancient philosophy prof literally telling us " _intelligiblity_ is a term no one uses in speech, only those who want to sound fancy smart". Just putting it out there.. 'cause yep, i was the one who brought it up in a sentence ;]
Doesn't matter if you give him 90 seconds or 90 years, he would not able prove his particular delusional belief. That's the same with all people that believe in their particular religion.
"god can't lie"? What bible is he reading??
Theo's brain is pudding. Completely incapable of intelligible thought.
Even if I wanted to, couldn't argue.
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Twain
Lol. How had Matt not retired from this. He seems exhausted dealing with these people.
I always call the "god put us here for a purpose" or "meaning of life" arguments as the Waste Management Technician argument.
Does god make some people because the world has doody that needs shovelling? What about people who are born into poverty and suffering and never get an opportunity to make a meaningful impact in the world. Did god create them just for that?
What about babies born with cancer and deformities? What's their purpose?
@@TheTruthKiwi Exactly. It's a maddening argument.
When I’m asked what are we here for I always go to the Calvin and Hobbs comic. Calvin asks him why are we here, Hobbs calmly answers “We’re here to devour each other alive.” Good answer from a tiger. Lol
@@ironsausage808 Haha that's funny and pretty dark for a children's comic. 😂
It's worse than that. Following the argument from scripture through to its logical conclusion, the christian god specifically created some people to save (the "elect" - Ephesians 1:4-5, Romans 8:29, Matthew 22:14, Mark 13:27, etc.) and everyone else to burn in hell, just because he could.
This guy is a Junior Jordan Peterson, who talks a LOT, and says absolutely NOTHING.
His vocabulary is sub par compared to Peterson. ...
@@c.guydubois8270Jordan peterson is a Word salad idiot too. So that really says a lot about this caller.
@@EnzoTheLibrarianthe dislike for Richard Dawkins in here is wild
@@Magnusfication Not Richard Dawkins, Darth Dawkins. Admittedly, I too only learned of this lunatic's existence a few minutes ago.
Agreed: JP does the same!
In a two host show every hang up should be agreed by both, save exceptional cases.
It's really annoying when one of the two just gets fed up and hangs up while the other still wanted to continue.
Well there goes 90 seconds I'll never get back...
The purpose of a religious persons life is simple. They are told that their purpose is to worship. Sounds kinda ass to me.
He's finding it difficult to grasp the analogy involving an apple as evidence for Christianity and his convictions. It appears he's struggling to articulate his religious beliefs succinctly, acknowledging that his faith is primarily rooted in personal feelings rather than concrete evidence.
Sometimes I too struggle with the fact that my empirical knowledge and feelings don't appear to match, Theo.
As uncomfortable as it is sometimes, my preferred solution is to examine my beliefs and adjust them to fit the evidence.
I guess talking total BS and refusing to listen is an option too though.
Matt nailed it when he accused Theo of being a philosophy student.
the script he got from darth dawkins was strong with this one
You have to remember that Theo was raised by Dr. Huxtable. 😂
You guys have to be more patient and gracious. I am an ex Mormon, proud Atheist, but swearing and loosing your patience and cutting people off will never change anyone's mind. Your great minds but pick up your humility game. Change people's mind like Sam Harris don't throw your intellectual toys and have tantrums
They are basically just bullies, asking for a 100% proof, knowing that it would make free will impossible.
Ive just came up with an idea. wouldnt it be funny to have 2 people from different religions like mormon and christianity or islam and hinduism debate eachother and try to prove to eachother whos God is the correct one.
Theo placed himself in a box, Jimmy just tied a bow around it.
Aww Theo, you blew it man! I had high hopes for you! Better luck next time
Hopes, but expectations, ummmmmm
I like Matt saying "do u want the government to tell you your job".... good comparison.
😂 i was laughing so hard my abs came back from 1994
I'm starting to think that Theo might actually be the omnipotent one. He was able to reach through time and space, and give me a migraine that will take days to recover from. I can't help but wonder if his power to heal matches his power to afflict. Well played, Sir; you are truly diabolical in your genius. ;-)
Longest fucking 90 seconds of my life. That dude needs a knowledge enema.
Faith is the art of lying to yourself. Critical thinking is the art of questioning yourself.
Wow. I’m not that smart at all. But this guy made me feel like a genius.
Jimmy and Matt as eloquent as ever, thankyou......if you ever reach Northern Ireland I owe you lunch.
Catch yerself on! Don't say 'Brown'. Say 'Hovis'.
With no need of a script to poorly read.
I once had an imaginary friend as well. I was six, and it was a great two days.
I'm no philosopher, as I actually have a job, but I've never heard a convincing argument that would suggest that "purpose" or "meaning" are necessary. What would change my mind?
Was Theo about to say the Muslim god can lie? I wanted to see where that was going.
Edit: Oops, i should have listened longer first.
This guy was SO not ready for this conversation.
Quite the stunning case for Christianity made without mentioning Christ, his supposed resurrection, or any of the other magical beliefs unique to that particular evolution of Judaism.
This may very well be the best thumbnail I've ever seen on one of these videos.
"Why is Matt so angry all the time?"
I'd like to submit this call into evidence.
When he starting talking the video went to commercial break 😂😂😂😂😂
It's always entertaining when they have a paper prepared and they'll present that paper one way or another... mostly because when they're thrown from their script (which always sounds like someone trying to talk to their crush for the first time), they don't have anything left.