Who Feeds Hay With a Chain Saw? | Engels Coach Shop
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- Cows eat LOTS of hay, and also WASTE lots of hay. This is my way to maximize intake and also minimize waste. Since my cows are full most of the time, they become more particular with what they want to eat. Many farmer-ranchers keeps their cows on the hungry side, so they clean up the hay better, but I don't take that approach. This is how I address the problem. Thanks for coming along.
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Those cows really have you trained pretty well.
Many years ago we switched from the 3 wire bales to those large bales. The idea was to reduce the handling cost. An additional benefit was that they were harder to steal. One day we came back in the morning and found a small pickup truck next to a 12 foot high stack of the bales at the roadside waiting to be picked up. The person with the truck had parked it and then gotten up on the top of the stack and pushed one of the bales off into the truck bed. In our hay these bales were typically 2300 pounds. We found the truck with the bed about 6 inches off the ground and pretty well crushed. The police came and towed the truck away and went looking for the owner.
Nice story!
That's funny 😂
I have no idea what a bale of hay cost , but it can’t be as much as a pick up. Lol.
Wow!
@@bluecollar58 Ahh. . . . . That depends on weather it was before or after it got pancaked :-)
Glad someone is able to keep the notion of a small family farm alive.
My Dad and Grandpa had a row binder when I was a kid in the early 1940's and would bring in a lot of bundled feed. They would make a large stack behind the ol barn next to a belt driven feed grinder. There was a large fan on the grinder that blew the ground feed to a cyclone on top of the barn. The air and dust went out the top, and the feed dropped in a bin in the barn. Grandpa would haul in loads of tumble weeds, sunflowers, garden residue and anything else he could get that would go thru the grinder. He put that mixture in the feed trough, and would dribble some molasses on it and the cows would eat it all. Grandpa would laugh and say he thought those cows would even eat a dead fish if it had some syrup on it. Mr Engles,, thank you for your time to make the great videos !!!
Now a little science behind it. I had a nutritionist at The Ohio State University tell me a number of years ago that the processors incorporated into a baler was the greatest invention in agriculture in a hundred years. The smaller the particle size in the stomach the more bacteria that can attach to it to help digest.
Your process is great for small scale, that tub grinder is great for large scale but I'm in between and I need to get a new baler that has a processor built in!
If the boss upstairs sends me back as a cow... Well I guess I'd want to be one of yours . 🇺🇲
Very interesting about hay feeding. And that hay bail grinder was awesome.
I always enjoy your trips to the ranch, thanks for bringing us along. You made no mention of how the watering is working so appears that is working well. Your recent bitter cold weather should have put it to a good test.
Great stuff Dave. Where I come from in Norfolk, UK, the old boys would afford you the highest accolade a man (or a woman) could achieve.
'He's a worker'.
They call you a “ Hand “ here.
Nice job. The cows always have full bellies.
Brought back memories of Dad's hay knife for this 6 year old in 1948. Cutting the straw and hay stacks in south central Pennsylvania. Probably blacksmith made. Thanks for taking us.
Reminds me of the cows my grandfather kept…we named them. Sir Loin of Beef, T Bone, Ribeye. Back in the good ol’ days.
This is a lovely varied thing, these videos from the wheelwrights. A lot of contentment oozing out of all the films.
I found it enjoyable to watch what most people would consider WORK but Dave considers it PLAYTIME! His happiness is my happiness.
Wow, that big hay grinder was pretty cool! Thats how you get the job done fast.
The guy that used to live behind me had a chipper similar to that. He would buy a bunch of bulk mulch and shovel it all into the chipper then turn the chipper and shovel the pile in again. He did that 3 or 4 times until it was really small chips then spread it out across his garden and tilled it in. It helped keep the soil loose and as it decomposed it put nutrients back into the soil. He had a huge garden for a city property and grew an amazing amount of vegetables in it. After he and his wife passed his son planted grass in the whole area to make it more sellable. The guy who lives there now has to mow that whole area really slow to keep from stalling out his mower because the ground is so rich and fertile and the grass grows really fast and thick.
Tribes in the Amazon basin did the same thing with the extremely nutrient poor soils there. Only difference is they used charcoal.
Even a 1000 years later you can see where this was done, and the soil in those areas is still "better" than the areas where the process was not done.
Did you ever mention to your new neighbor why his yard grows so well?
@@johnwright6706 I've told him about the garden but not all the extras that were added to the soil
No problems Dave, just post the opportunity and we'll be there. Mike.
That is pampering your beef, chewing their food before they eat it. Learned something new today Dave, never seen that done before. That would cut down on some of the waste. Looks great around there, stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
Thanks a lot, just the thought of standing in front of that chute got me sneezing.
Genius thanks for solving our problems with our pigs not eating as much alfalfa hay as we give them. We raise grazing kuni kuni pigs for those who may think differently
Beautiful condition and they love the food.
Your battery powered chainsaw is today’s equivalent of the traditional hay knife I used as a kid to cut the unbaled mowed and stacked hay of my youth.
We used to pick up the grass clippings from the folks in town and feed it to our cows. It was just a little treat for them. Like candy.
Alot of people don't know taking care of cows is an everyday thing.
For milking and high population confinement animals yes, , on range / pasture with adequate food, water, and shelter "everyday ' is not necessary
Sehr gutes Wetter bei euch. Toller Film. Die Landschaft ist sehr schön. Deine Rinder haben es gut bei dir. Grüße aus Deutschland. 🇩🇪😊
You may be interested in knowing a tool that used to be used for this purpose -- the Weymouth pattern hay knife, sometimes known as a "Lightning" hay knife after the brand they were first sold under. Most you find these days are in rough shape but I re-grind them for folks fairly frequently. They resemble a saw but the teeth are large and like knife blades, and hollow-ground, with the tip double-edged like a spear. Goes through hay like butter if you keep it well-ground and sharpened. I used to use one all the time to cut round bales down to size.
I can remember one farm supply catalog many years ago selling a bar and chain for a saw specially for cutting hay baled. Was a 4ft bar with a special chain.
Needed a 60cc or bigger saw
This was many years ago
Did that with big round bales,the big squares I would cut in half and flip into the stall to store.If you run the saw cutting with the top of the bar it will pull less hay into the bar.
Beautiful place you've got there, Dave, absolutely stunning. God bless.
Any way to keep the cows happy always works. Thank you for sharing Dave.
Well when you think about it, those stems are now pre-chewed....
That has gotta make life a little easier for the cows.
Actually I think this video shows exactly why chaff cutters were invented. Taking a less palatable feed stock and making it more palatable for the animals.
That was my thoughts,keeping them happy
Animals are very intelligent and your cows ain't no different.
I grow up in a farm until I migrate to the UK were I live now I know to well how cows are picky.
Thanks Dave
Once again thanks for the video.
Thanks
very nice thanks for sharing
Dave,
Try putting some olive oil in the bar oiler... the cows will enjoy their salads even more!
All the best. Stay warm!
Never thought of using chain saw to cut hay.That’s why I really enjoy your videos. Dave I truly wish and would love to see your small farm and meet you and Diana
Just a small town Hoosier where it has been cold. Thanks so much for videos
Very interesting Dave. Thanks for sharing this video with us. Stay safe.
Back in the 70's there was a guy I knew that used a similar approach for another kind of leafy green substance...but in his case he used a blender to do the grinding.
He said that his customers liked it because the stems would be ground enough to not poke holes through the "wrapping paper" and it added more weight for the sale for him.
Very good idea never seen hay cut with a chain saw before
Good idea!!
I helped tend about 30 head of dairy cows for a couple of summers before I went in the service, SW Ohio back in the late ‘70’s. There was a bank barn, small bail hay in the top and a chute led down to the walkway behind the mangers on the bottom floor. We didn’t cut up the hay but they did get a good bit of grain too. There was another chute that led to a wheelbarrow on a track, dump the grain on the second floor from a wagon and get to shoveling. The funny part was we’d bed them down in the barn once a week and the straw went down the same chute as the hay, the cows would stand around and watch you spread it and each one always laid down in exactly the same place! If they figured you wasn’t working fast enough they would lean on you while you were trying to work. Once ya got to know them, they really had some personality. Enjoyable work and good memories. 👍
Dave, that looks like the perfect place for a small snowblower.
Well Dave , if I were you I'd be out there in that great scenery for a fair dollop of time . . Great trick with the chainsaw . 👍🇬🇧
You have happy gourmet cows! I bet they would enjoy being invited in to watch a movie. Great Video!
Great way to keep your cows happy and save yourself some money. I will admit I have never seen hay grinding before, that was some serious machinery.
my wife and I have the same chipper and it is a little Beast, I used to own a portable feed mille and i used to grind a lot of hay along with corn and oats and mixed in good old Black strap Molases and the cows loved it.
I have one too. It’s really loud! I’m always happy to shut it off.
As I was watching this I kept thinking that Dave's pets would grin from ear to ear if he would drizzle a little molasses in with it. I remember when I was a kid I would stick my head down in the feed box to smell the molasses. But, it smelled a bit better than it tasted.
Dave serves hors d'oeuvres to his herd at the gourmet deli feed lot!
This is very interesting.
I like the angled head bars, keeps them from pulling back hard and busting you gear or their head.
I've enjoyed all of your play place videos. I especially liked the pole barn vids and water tank construction. Very relaxing. I like work, I could watch you work all day. Old joke penalty on that one! One of the things I like most is how you improvise to use your materials at hand and your technical abilities to transform your mental plans into a successful project that meets your expectations. That's fun!
Like the cows, it keeps him interested an interesting.
Love it Dave! I have small areas with 30 to 70 head each. As you know cattle will spread it out and sleep on it, or worse.
LOVED IT! Thanks.
Very resourceful !
That was a fun video Dave, thank you. I love feeding big squares but sometimes we get the big rounds. I have trouble with the grass hay rounds exploding when I set them on the flat and try to flake them off. I've seen where guys set them on the round and slowly cut them in half one flake at a time with an old fashioned hay saw. I'm going to have to give that a try.
Thanks for sharing gotta do what works for you
Love that stuff
If ya have an old coarse broom screw the head to a post, Cattle really enjoy the scratching post.
Your Dogs are looking good
Diversion from your usual routine in the shop is a good thing.
Your cows are so spoiled that you prechew their food for them! :P
I always figured that the reason cows left the stemmy stuff is because, after they eat the leafy stuff, it starts to lose its smell. Maybe grinding it up refreshes the odor?
I lived in a rural area for over 30 years, and occassionally helped a neighbour bring in hay. Cutting hay with a chainsaw is a new one on me. Good logic behind it though, hay if your buying it, can get darned expensive. I've never seen a grinder as big as the one in the finalminutes of your video. Yet another niche business.
Around here is mostly dairy cows which get fed a lot of corn silage that is piled up in concrete bunkers with plastic over the the pile. They use a big dangerous looking attachment that goes on a bobcat to chew off sections of the compressed pile and then use a front loader to pick it up and dump into a feeder. I drive by one farm that is usually chewing on the pile when I am on my way to work. That attachment always makes me think it would be great in a zombie apocalypse!
Good video Dave. you're kinda fun to hang out with
*- Dave, I always loved the word Persnickety.*
*- It is the gentlrified version of the Northern N.H. temperment.*
*- Level two version is the normal Cussed, Ornery, and Crotchety.*
*- Level three is what made the Hells Angles leave land in a hurry that they paid $100's K cash for.*
I used to cut up round bales with a chainsaw to feed in the barn. That was before the electric chainsaws they have now. The saw I used had the muffler on the side, where most saws have the exhaust in the front. Those won't take long to set a bale on fire. I've had dry logs smolder when cutting with a front exhaust saw. Just a word of caution. Love your videos!
Looks like a washbasket might make it easier to feed that hay once you cut it up. Folks used to use a chainsaw for cutting up big round bales as well.
Good Idea that !😊
Fun to get outside and do something enjoyable.
Watching you go through the process of grinding the hay and cutting bales with the chain saw one observation came to mind, content spoiled cows, but, farming is 24/7 job that takes what it takes to keep everything going. I like it young man, I enjoyed the video.
Young Man ? You have to be in your Nineties to get away with that.
@@bluecollar58😅
@@bluecollar58 I feel like 90 more often than not, but I also use that expression when I run into someone I know but can’t remember their name, or young lady if the case requires it. I am closer to 90 than 60 though! You have a good day youngster😉😁
@@terryrogers1025 , it’s disrespectful at any age and you should stop.
@@bluecollar58 I can assure you, anything I post in comment sections of any YT video has never meant or intended to be disrespectful sir. I was never raised that way. It has been my observation that the intent of any comment on/ in text, e-mails, and comments are subject to misinterpretation. Engels Coach Shop has great content and I also enjoy reading the subscribers comments as well, his channel has got some great subscribers. Thank you for your input, I pray you have a good evening and I wish you the best. Terry
looks delicious
The grinder I think makes it more palatable and therefore easier and quicker to digest. One reason in the UK we chop silage especially for beef animals, cows are better on non chopped if they're not feeding calves or milking.
another great video
It works!
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*- Dave, this is a physical chemistry experiment.*
*- Digesting low chlorophyll stalks uses a lot of energy to get little in return.*
*- Atomizing the stalk length reduces digestion energy consumption, and increases return.*
*- Being Persnickety, I would have to say that the energy cost of your time and charging the saw battery may still yield an increase of $ sale per pound of beef sold ... but the whole chore is a waste of time.*
*- On the other hand...being Contrary to letting paid for hay go to waste provides great fun {and satisfaction} in getting that hay used, and interesting copy for RUclips all at the same time.*
Dave just a side note I like the way you use the whole bale but when using small motors everybody should throttle them down to idle before shutting them off. Shutting an engine off at full throttle will cause the fuel to wash down the cylinder there for creating a lot of ware because the gas is coming in to the cylinder at full RPM and the gas washes the oil off the cylinder causing a dry piston to move up and down with no lubrication.
Any updates on the apartment project? Huge job I know, just curious.
That desolate country side just mesmerizes me.
As I was watching your video showing how you prepare hay for cattle feed, I was wondering if it would help to have a wheel barrow next to the large bales you are cutting up with the chainsaw. You could load a larger quantity of the cut hay material and easily transport it over to your feeding station. Just a suggestion of course. Thanks Dave for another visit to your outdoor play area!
Watching here again
wow! big scale indeed!
15:30 mark, this is the same cyclone type grinder used in the orchard industry for grinding old fruit/nut trees into usable compost, or fuel for steam turbines.
What a brilliant idea, using a chainsaw and regrinding the more stem y hay...probably the most nutritious part. I hope you are using the term red-neck to mean a self reliant, ingenious, non-wasteful man/human...as I'm a female and under that definition I fit in mostly. First time watching, but not the last, thanks for sharing.
Smart!
Interesting. I never knew
Add a burlap bag chute over that output to knock down the dust...
Wish I could afford one of those grinders. Thought about doing some corn stalk or whatever you call it. And I am trying to work out the chicken feed thing. Prices here doubled.
Who would have thought of using a chain saw to cut hay? Dave.
I would like to see inner workings of this grinder on the outside it looks like your garden variety leaf/wood chipper,thanks for another video🤗😎🤗😎
Yes, it is.
Stay safe.
Missed seeing your ‘play’ area
Looks like me making mulch out of leaves, tall grass, and small sticks. I had no clue that a need for hay grinding existed. How about using some tasty molasses as bar oil?
Ciao Dave,big man!!!
I've lived in the country around cattle all my life, and I had no idea hay grinding was a thing. Never seen it before.
Thats a great use of the flail chopper. I hadn't considered that before for stemmy hay. Would it be worth your time to hang a small rubber flap on the discharge chute to minimize the distance the chopped product is thrown? Just an idea.
Big Sky Country!!!
He will taste delicious come Spring!
One thought came up: the chainsaw massaker, haha.
Mom used an electric carving knife a little smaller than that on the Thanksgiving turkey.