It's funny to read all the people hating on this e-golf. Must be all the people that couldn't get one. I own this car and love the hell out of it. Charge at work. Even got 14k winning.
it is a little bit expensive for the performance but the build quality is of course exceptional. the successor "ID Neo" will be a very very huge improvement with a much better price / performance ratio. they want to ship it at the end of the year and they start to take orders in may this year. for canada it probably will take a while because they cannot produce enough of that MEB based cars because we already know that there will be a shortage of batteries.
I test drove one. coming from an audi i liked the styling and interior. however the performance sucked balls. i got roasted by a 90's toyota corolla at a red light. embarrassing 10 second 0-60. . there should be a sport mode that cuts that in half for a little fun. the kona was waaaay quicker.
Just visited my local VW dealer (Canada) who told me to not go near it, every single one they sold has had MAJOR issues with it, both design and build quality. There is a waiting list of about a year in East Canada for one.... advised many times to not buy one.
My work round trip was 60 miles i’m able to charge at home and this car saved me $3000 a year on gas and oil. Super underrated car. And I still have it no problems at all.
I’ve had this car for about 6 weeks now and have put 1000 miles on it, and I love it. I charge it at work for free on a chargepoint station. Fun to drive, comfortable, and great quality. I get about 135 miles of range, but it works fine for me because I still have my ICE Nissan Fro tier if I need to go long distance. I might get a 40amp home charger, but I probably do t need to.
You realize if you're not driving 200km a day, a regular 120V/15A outlet will keep your eGolf topped up just fine, right ? The math is an empty eGolf on 120V/10A will take about 30hours to charge, but most people park a car at least 12 hours/day, so you can easily put 100km into it over night. No need for 240V (although it's nice to have).
All depends on what you need. I'm retired, live in a small city, and I'd be surprised if I drive 5,000 KM a year. There's a bigger city about 30 KMs away but I think I was there once last month, and a fairly large city about 110KMs away. I think I was last there five years ago. An iMiev would suit me perfectly. I have a house where I could plug it in every night. With that little car, I think the 110V outlet would suffice.
I bought my 2018 e-golf new last September. I now have 18,000k on it. I have a ChargePoint charger in my garage which automatically starts charging after 7pm when rates are low. I can have it start any time I wish but it’s very rare that I have charged during a more ‘expensive’ time. Since September I’ve spent about $280 charging the car which works out to about 64 kilometres per dollar. With gas at 118/litre, this works out to about 340 kilometres (213 miles) per gallon. As gas prices go up this summer those numbers will increase. Simply, $1.18 x 4.549 = $5.36 per gallon. For $5.36 I can drive 340 kilometres. Also real world range in the summer is over 300 kilometres and in very cold winter is around 220. I reached those numbers many times, driving normally. Not like an adrenaline junky and not like someone trying to break a range record. Very misleading video.
I have a 2019 Tesla Model 3 LR and I’m thinking of picking up one of these used for a second car or maybe even replacing the Tesla. Reasons include VW has better build quality, better interior ergonomics (a ski pass-through, imagine!) and better customer treatment from VW, Golf is quieter inside, and when it gets really cold (less than minus ten) my ‘long-range’ Tesla gets 250 km on the highway (50% reduction) before charging is required, meaning I still want a diesel for longer road trips. However the Tesla has virtues, just not $75,000 worth of them; a less expensive e-Golf is attractive to me still after six months of Tesla ownership.
Well I have E-Golf with full equipment and I can tell it’s a lot more comfortable to seat in leather seats than in those standard ones. Price in Norway is 54 000$(Canadian)... But it really pays of...10 000 km=320$ if you charge on parking lot which is really cheap if you consider that a liter of petrol is 2.5$ 😂 But if you charge at home,10 000 km= 140$ Also in Norway we don’t have to pay annual tex fee like we have to pay for the cars with internal combustion engines... But anyway range during the winter is something like 150-180km per charge,wile the temperature is around -5...when the temperature gets around 20 degrees,range goes up to approximately 260km 😁 And I don’t know why,but my E-Golf is a lot heavier,it weighs 2050kg 🤔
Thanks for the review. I really enjoyed watching this. Very informative especially for the people who are exploring EV in Canadian market. There are important factors such as cost of charging, lifestyle, limitation on charging for people living in Condominiums which was addressed in your review. One thing I would like to see is the cost of insurance let say in Toronto compare to other cars in the same size.
That's undoubtedly the most practical strategy. But there's a difference between a vehicle that REQUIRES daily recharging and one that can be driven for a couple of days (or more) or cope with unexpected demands beyond the usual daily routine.
it would be interesting how the charging situation is improving over the time. supermarkets also start to have low cost charging stations to make them attractive to the customers. so, when you buy your groceries there, they might give you free credit for charging as a bonus.
Spoken like someone who has never owned an EV. While I do have home charging available, 90% of my charging is at free public chargers. That could easily be 100% if I tried, or if I had more than a 24kwh battery.
More like 1 year. VW, Mini, Hyundai, Honda and more will release new and updated models by summer/fall of next year in Canada. That is when I intend to seriously look to by an EV.
Yes, other cars have more range, but why pay for more ranger (and more weight) than you need. 200km may be plenty for people with a 20 km commute. However, buying an EV when you don't have an outlet at home is tough.
Only issue i have with this car is the 14-20 hour charging time considering I live in a small city in China with almost not a lot of charging stations . But I'm really considering to buy this or just wait for the Honda e.. My favourite part of the golf is that it looks normal and doesn't look all dorky like many electric cars.
I think the “gross “ 16” wheels are nice looking but overall I’d have to give this eGolf a thumbs down for high price and low range. Hoping the next Gen will resolve. Until then well I’ll just have to continue ripping around in my ‘17 gti W/6 speed manual. Old school is the best school. 😅
Good point about people who cannot install chargers at home. If I live in apartment block without ability to install charging unit, I would need to have fast chargers in around max 20km radius. It would make sense to have EV only if it has range of at least 300km in bad conditions and I would be able to charge it to this range within 30mins max. Big cities are the biggest market for EVs in the future with millions of people living there. ICE car is still better for cities. Hopefully new EV fast charging infrastructure will be designed with cities in mind and not only long distance travel.
Ouch...OK, here's the perspective from the US side of the border (where measurements have to be translated into our parochial units.) We're a family of three living in the Puget Sound region with a teenager who'll be driving in the next year or so. An addition to the family fleet that currently consists of a much loved GTI and a KIA Sorento is on the horizon. And I'd love to make that an eGolf. But just as the three most important things about real estate is "location, location, and (well, you get the idea), the most important things about an EV are range, range, and range. I'm lucky to be able to add a fast charger at home and being something of tree hugger, I'd be happy to do so. But with a frequent daily requirement of, say, a 100 mile range, an eGolf just doesn't cut it. I could barely make it from my home to Seattle and back and I don't relish doing it without AC or other draws on the battery just to be sure I don't end up on the side of the road on the way home. And even if I do make it, it means finding a public recharging station in Seattle or daily recharging at home. It might serve as a daily commuter but only if no unexpected demands come along to call for a longer range on any given day. For someone living in an urban location, hopefully with the ability to install a fast charger, the 125 mile range of the eGolf (or other limited range EV's) can be dealt with, especially if it's not one's only transportation option. But for me and many of my neighbors with long daily commutes a limited range EV makes sense only if it's used to get to the nearest bus/train terminal. I might consider one for my teenage daughter going back and forth to school with a 20 mile round trip commute but that sort of entitlement is a bridge too far. So, unless VW can extend the range of the eGolf to at least match those of the new options from Hyundai and KIA or be willing to buy a Tesla in the manner I order kitchen supplies from Amazon I'll have to drop it from the list of possibilities. And I'm sure I'm not alone.
@@travisburdess1071 Not quite large enough for my needs (two adults, a teenage daughter, and a big dog) but I agree for a single person or couple looking for an urban runabout it's worth considering.
@@stephenhendricks103 huh? you must be thinking about a different car. 240 miles range seating for five and my hundred twenty pound dog can fit easily behind the back seats look out the back window. Definitely not a urban only car. DCFast makes it more than capable traveler
@@travisburdess1071 Sorry, Travis. Have to admit I haven't examined the Bolt very closely. My impressions were based mainly on casual comments from reviewers of other EV's and the difference between the Volt and the Bolt. And I didn't mean to suggest the Bolt was an "urban only" car, only that it was focused more directly on urban duties than some other EV's. So, to summarize,: My bad. I'll take a closer look at the Bolt. :) Edit: BTW, I just checked some specs and found Bolt length to be 164." That's about 4 inches shorter than my GTI and my dog demands that he have a spot in the back seat rather than in the "way back" behind the second row. On the other hand, I was surprised to see that the actual passenger volume (94 cubic feet) is virtually equal. So perhaps the difference is that my big dog is less willing than yours to be consigned to the space behind the rear seat. I'll point out his privileged status when I see him. :)
@@stephenhendricks103 it's all good. We bought our Bolt 2 months ago and have piled on 4k miles. It's such an impressive and highly underrated EV, I feel mostly because it's GM. What really sold me, was watching the drivetrain tear down video from Weber state automotive department. The professor called it a work of art, a thing of beauty, and seeing how it's built, I have to agree. So I bought one. Traded our hybrid accord and our Titan is next on the chopping block because it hasn't moved in since bringing the Bolt home. Thinking I'm going to put a pre order in on the VW ID to replace that giant gas guzzling paper weight in my driveway. But until then wife and I will keep sharing the Bolt.
I wonder who would still buy the current e-Golf? Price/range is terrible. I am very excited about the new VW I.D. series though and planning to buy one. Also, the new I.D. series is built from scratch based on the MEB platform purely designed for EV's. The e-Golf is an electrified ICE model.
What do you need more than 100miles of range for? Are you driving over 50mi a day? If not, and you have a home, then just plug it in overnight, and you never have to even think about your range. Besides, you can just rent a hybrid any time you need to travel, which shouldn't be a problem considering how much money you're going to save on gas and maintenance. And guess what? You can run your home off that thing for a whole day, if the power ever goes out.
This is a horrible review. 35kwh is more than enough capacity for the city use stated. My 24kwh capacity is plenty and that includes some highway use as well. And the charging example he gave is totally ridiculous. I can only guess that he searched for the most expensive option he could find and then presented it like a typical example. Most public charging is CHEAP. Often it is included in the cost of parking, if there is any charge at all. I can charge at home, but usually use public chargers because they are free. My monthly energy cost is about 6 dollars.
i am sure that the VW ID Neo and the Seat el-born will be exceptional regarding their price/performance ratio. however, it could be that they do not sell them that cheap at first because we already know that they will have a shortage on batteries. so they can also sell them a little bit more expensive. they will also sell it with the higher capacity at first, probably with their 62kwh battery which gives a nice range.
maschinenraum no vw have already secured the lithium required equivalent to 15-20years production, and have already started production (shared with the e-Tron production line)
@@ram64man from what i heard is that VW is buying resources but for supplying them to the cell manufacturers somewhere in asia. they do not have their own cell factory now but they are planning their own factory. what they have is a battery factory but they still need to buy the cells for building batteries.
It’s the perfect shape and size for a city based EV. Incognito, practical and yet tastefully handsome. Not every EV has to look like it was taken from Bladerunner or Tron. I’ll never be buying one, but if I had to... this would be at the top of my list. Also, in the Nation’s Capital (Ottawa) there is ZERO Tesla dealers ... but there has got to be more a half a dozen VW dealers. Something the Kool-Aid drinking Tesla dreamers really ought to consider. Thanks for a sincerely interesting video.
I love this car so much. I have a few problems with FWD electric cars. They make little sense. Electric motors are small and compact. They should've put it in the rear and also give it an optional tow hitch to make it even more functionality.
Where EVs differ from gas cars: 1. Charge at home, overnight. You have an electric car, why go somewhere else to charge it? Its like reviewing a phone and complaining that you need to go to the mall to charge it - no one would think that, why so with EV? 2. Cost savings (when charging at home). Driving an EV is about 8-10x less than gas equivalent. It costs about $1 to travel 100km vs $10 for a gas car in traffic (~80% driving). 3. Perfect for commuting in/out of the city, and perfect city cars. EVs are more efficient driving in stop/go traffic than gas ones, don't pollute, are quiet, and are quick off the like. What you didn't say is that any electric car beats even faster gas cars up to 40km/h, which is most inner city driving speeds. 4. No maintenance. Gas engines start breaking down after 200K or so, but on an electric car all you'll have to do is change the batteries if they ever go bad after their typical 10 year warranty, and you're good to go. Batteries are 1/2 as cheap as 5 years ago, 1/4 than 10 years ago, and will be much cheaper in the future. An EV bought now could literally last you a lifetime with minimal cost. So in the end, why review cars biased towards keeping things the same (going to gas stations?), but not the cheap transportation, clean, quiet cities, even in the heaviest traffic?
He mentioned he does not have the ability to charge at home. He tried to get his landlord to allow for home charging, and the landlord refused. Public charging is the only option in situations like this (I am also in the same situation). That is a problem which should be rectified as more and more people get EV's and the demand is too high for apartment buildings to continue to refuse putting in chargers of some sort. Also, the E-golf is just not competitive anymore where range is considered.
@Robert Blackford because that's what it costs me, charging at home vs paying for gas and driving in the city. Gas is $1.4/L, car consumes ~12L/100km in the city, so $16.5/100km. EV drives about 4km/kwh which costs 6.5c at night, so $1.65/100kms... Literally 10x cheaper, and no gas stations involved.
Recommendation from an ex-EV driver (Me): Don't buy an EV car unless you have a home OR work charger where you can plug in on a daily basis. If that condition is not met, forget about getting EV car. Period. *Exception: However, you can get a Tesla since its Supercharge (Version 3) is ridiculously super fast. And Tesla's supercharge stations are like spider web, virtually everywhere.
Don't hold your breath on a longer range eGolf, VW has already stated that it's days are numbered and it will not continue after 2020, so don't expect them to put any money into it. For VW it's all about their I.D. series cars.... which is terribly sad for the eGolf. It's a great car! Sadly hampered by a small battery and almost zero support from VW. I had a 2015 SEL eGolf for 4 years and loved it. but now I have a Tesla Model 3 and there is no regret at all. I get 325 miles per charge on the Model 3.... that make the eGolf's 125 miles (mine was the older 24KWhr battery with only 85 miles) look like a sliver on the Tesla's battery indicator....Plus the performance is more Porsche than eco Golf. I loved the eGolf as a starter EV or a second car. But with the Model 3 I don't need another car anymore. Yes you can go all EV and do all you need to do :) Buy a used eGolf to get hooked on EV's then upgrade to a Tesla to truly enjoy the future now.
Early adopters such as you always suffer the effects of subsequent development and engineering advances. You're certainly correct that VW will replace rather than extend the life of the eGolf, just as GM dropped the Volt when it introduced the Bolt. But VW is strongly committed to "electrification." And the emergence of the Korean brands and extended range Leaf will only encourage that commitment. No disrespect intended for Tesla. But that brand, too, is a favorite among early adopters. Most mainstream manufacturers will continue to introduce competitors and Tesla will be challenged to keep up. (Here's hoping they do.)
Charging that last 15% could take as long as from 20-85%, I would only charge 100% if it was overnight at home. Most of the time that extra is not necessary. You did not mention the DC fast charging your car is capable of. This is faster and cheaper than level 2 at public stations. DCFC is about US$0.10 /min at 40-50kWh (or 0.67kW/minute). With your 35kWh battery charging from 0-85% (30kWh in 45 minutes) price would be about US$4.50 and give you at least 120 miles or 193.121 km at 3.5miles/kW (you can get 4.5mi/kw in the city in warmer weather).
Seems like this car has not been equipped with the extra A/C unit. This one helps to heat up quickly etc but is an extra here in Europe. Also, this car can have leather seats, electric seats etc.
I think the range makes this car strictly a city EV. Funny thing, remember last gen of VW Golf was named 'City' Golf. Anyhow, 200km is plenty enough for commuting winter-summer, just not intercity traveling. I get why VW is proposing such a shorter range - it also comes with a much lower price than the Kona EV. Remember that the Tesla 3 base also has only 220km range for about the same price range as the E Golf so there is a market for this. On top of it, lower range means smaller battery so more trunk space: it makes the E version having pretty much the same space as the regular Golf version, perhaps this also explains the choice for a smaller range.
i would think there is gov rebates for condo to install plugs for ev owners ,, they could just use 1 parking stall for ev charging and set up some kind of booking to use it etc
It's definitely not hard to switch to all electric even with just a 120V outlet. You just charge over night, and most people don't empty their battery every day.
For folks who lives in areas where they have winter, I would go by the winter range when shopping for an EV. Because battery efficiency drops like a rock when the temp approaches freezing. Brrr...
In the deep freeze of -20 C about 50% loss. So doesn't work as someone's only vehicle. Pretty lame effort by VW. At least they and the German auto industry have committed to transition to electric. They just need to get it right like the Porsche Taycan and of course Tesla. At this pace it will take VW 20 years to get there and then another 20 for people replace their ICE car. Yikes! Things need to accelerate.
Of course it will cost you a lot if you charge to 100% on a level 3 charger. You should always charge to 80-85% max. After that, charging speed drops. You're better on a level 2.
$45.00 for 200km? Because you paid to go into a garage and then paid with some sort of terrible overcharging company? I will never buy a VW after the dieselgate thing, but your experience with the cost of charging is pretty unique. My max cost was maybe $8 US? I will agree though, the beauty of having an electric car is the driving into your garage plugging it in for a $2 fill up and never going to gas station again. I wouldn't buy one without my own access to power.
the dieselgate thing is simply blown out of proportion. especially in the U.S. so that they can protect their market and sell more of their own inefficient cars with a very bad mileage.
I'm in the same situation however living in Montreal with a mayor that is more for public transportation which best ev with the longest range and charging speed & best warranty to get. It's a tough choice.
Great honest review. More than gas, wow. Charging is where the money will be made. The charging infrastructure is what hurts evs the most even tesla, they each have different fees, some will work with your car some wont without adapters, some only for one manufacturer, the wait times, the charging times, and the rates can fluctuate hourly. If you can charge at home and or work, than it could work fine. I prefer having a least a small gas generator inside, or a plugin hybrid, that way you get the best of both worlds with no anxiety, and even an apartment dweller can live with one, and of course hybrids are great. Companies are looking to profit off the charging stations and competing with each other instead of working with each other for standards and balance. Gas stations on the other hand are car brand neutral, it just works, and prices are more uniform and no adapters needed and you are not turned away or charged a fee to even enter.
The point of EVs is to charge at home. This whole 'charging infrastructure' is a holdover from gas cars and bares no real problem for EVs. Think of EVs like your phone you charge overnight. Charging at home is where EVs rule, and commuting up to 80-100km/day. Even with just a 110V charger you get about 80km range overnight.
The biggest problem with the E-Golf is the 12-18 month waiting list to get it. Add to that 6-7% financing and you've got yourself a hard to justify EV. Still, there's a huge demand for it and VW has the audacity to say that there's no market in NA for an affordable EV hatch. Because of that, there's a high chance we won't get the ID hatch which I've been waiting for since 2016. Also, you should consider moving lol. If they won't let you install a wall charger in your building, they just show everyone that they're closed-minded and refuse to acknowledge the fact that EVs are the future.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Right, if nobody wants it, how come there's a 12-18 month waiting list? How come VW can't provide enough of them for all the Europeans who want one? Just look up its sales figures in Europe, it's the best seller among the Leaf and more recently, the Model 3
He never ever mentioned the Tesla model 3 when comparing vehicles. Tesla has solved all of the issues that he brings up and the short-range version compares to this one in price. I really don't understand why anybody would buy another brand EV with what is currently available in the market by other brands.
Condominiums shouldn't be able to stop anyone from having access to charging infrastructure. Even if one person has a plug-in car, they shouldn't be stopped from having access. Since apartment buildings and condo buildings have incredibly high amperage service connections. They're perfect for plug-in vehicle owners. I think what could/should be done to help ameliorate condo board members concerns about plug-in's could be addressed with ID cards that are specific to each person's unit. Plus, the cars could help out by providing load leveling service for when peak power demand happens. Or, when there is a power failure. Everyone should be pretty happy with that.
Exactly. That makes sense. So every night that unused power is shifted towards the buildings EVs and such. Quite logical. Plus which building doesn’t want to the first Environmental Considerate building. ... and they could (would) charge more!
A very nice car overall, but the problem is the range is still on the short side. That said the e-Golf holds promise & VW group is pumping tons of money from all of its divisions. The successor of this car is the ID hatchback which is promised ~330km range and about $30k USD prices.
Just check on chargehub the most expensive dc fast charger in Toronto is $20 an hour and from 20% to 80 take about 30 minutes, eather you lefted it plugged in and returned much later, I'm thinking your a newbie at car charging and waited to 100%
@motormouth SO what ís the realistic range of the e-golf in winter with the heating on? You say a lot about it, but not what it is. My guess would be less then 100 km.
Terrible range, which VW won’t update. This is the newest model and still the same as last year. The new KIA Nero or Kona is way better for the money. That 240 watt charging cable at an extra $1000 is ridiculously priced. That is $600 from Tesla, but they give you a ne-ma 1450 adapter with the car at no added cost. Does the same thing as the $600 adapter. The design is so dated for the e-golf. I owned a 2005 VW GTI and this e- golf looks the same. If you bought a Tesla Model 3 you could do extended trips with the Tesla infrastructure. At 43K US dollar. But not a hatchback. For a hatchback a Chevy Bolt is way better than that e-golf.
Here in america, only the e-golf gets this 9.2” screen. makes no sense. not even the Arteon or Golf R have this. The biggest all of the other models have is 8”
An EV has next to no operating or maintenance costs. You use the brakes less, because of regenerative braking. The coolant pump for the batteries would probably the only real thing that would have to be replaced within any significant timeframe, but that's not going to be any different than in an ICE Golf.
As a EV owner, you are making me cringe with all the inaccurate negative things said throughout this video about "charging". Owning a EV and relying on public level 2 charging is the equivalent of depending on charging your phone at one of the kiosks at the mall or your neighbors house... Not even a friend's house, a neighbors. Nobody does it unless it's an emergency and you shouldn't even be talking about it, as it's not a realistic option for your cell phone. Treat a EV exactly like a cell phone, nothing more nothing less. You have the proper cord for your phone for home, get the proper cord for your car for home. Also, a 40A level 2 can be bought off Amazon for $350. This isn't as hard or scary as you are making this sound.
@@Popupkiller And that's a significant issue for many potential customers. So just as government has provided massive tax subsidies to the oil industry and built highways for a hundred years to encourage the proliferation of vehicles burning dinosaur juice, the far less generous subsidies necessary to expand the infrastructure for electric vehicles to ameliorate the environmental damage of those vehicles is more than justified.
Well said Travis. It looks like he went out of his way to find the worse, downtown Toronto gouger, then presented 45 dollars as a typical cost to charge. EV owners know that low cost and even free charging infrastructure is available in all major cities and highways.
Only 200k range? Why spend so much to be inconvenienced by an electric car? Just Uber everywhere and save money. Then rent a standard car for long trips.
First and foremost, it's not always about cost. In this capitalist society we are brainwashed to always look for the cheaper price. It's just brainwashing - nothing personal when saying this but if you think of it you realize it's true even for the most basic things, like food. Anyhow, for some people an electric car is a different animal: no more oil changes (so no more garage appointments), no pollution and gas smell, easy start up in any weather, no 'engine' warming up, great acceleration, no engine noise, no transmission/clutch problems, and the list goes on and on. It's a matter of choice, not money. Of course, this does not apply to everybody. As for the price, the Tesla 3 costs about the same in the base model and has the same range, so pricing wise it's good.
@@Peppermint1 capitalism is the exact opposite of what you claim. It's about giving consumers a choice - not about "cheaper" prices. That's why some consumers purchase Porsche or other brands. My point is: Why pay more for inconvenience when the performance and features are less than a gasoline equivalent? It can only be one reason - to make a green statement.
@@morganvon5664 It's not really a clam, rather a personal thought. I think the pressure or 'lowering the price' should be controlled somehow, otherwise in several situations it puts pressure not just on production costs, but also on the workers pay and labor conditions. This is an interesting debate. As for the EV cars, there is no doubt many consumers want to make a green statement when purchasing one, or they also do it by conviction (obviously a low sales number is not going to chance something to the climate). But there are other factors (like ones mentioned above), I personally think EV is still more convenient than gasoline - except for the range issue which would be excluded if the car is strictly used for commuting. I think this would be the reason why people pay more for 'less' - this less includes different advantages not present on a combustion engine vehicle.
gtb5 I have the Kona EV and it is at least $15k more than the gas version after the rebate. It’ll take a long time to make that back. That being said, I don’t know why, but I don’t think I can go back to a gas car now. The extra torque and quiet run is awesome.
Robert Blackford hey Robert you’re being an ass. Anyway, I don’t need to justify my purchase to you. I hope you enjoy driving the same car for 50 years then. Enjoy.
Robert Blackford you started with the negative comments. You’re the one that seems to make the dumb comments. I drove my last car for 7 years and it’ll serve someone for another 10 years probably. Meanwhile I’ll be driving the EV 100kms for work a day saving a substantial amount of pollution.
@@martijnkosters9024 yes maybe... But if u can afford to buy a car costing 33.000 pounds u can buy instead a car with 10.000 or 12.000 pounds and after a 8 or 10 years u will reach the same amount of saving the money for instance if u buy a car that it is consuming 0.11 or 0.15p per km with a comparison of a car consuming 0.045 or 0.05p per km... U will achieve the same amount of spending after 8 or 9 years...
EV's are way over priced. They will need to reduce costs to open the market for avg owners in order to gain market share from ICE. I like the Egolf, but not the range and price. Perhaps the used market will be much better.
Proved by whom? Drive a Leaf (similar price), drive a Bolt (which is 50% more expensive), and then drive an eGolf. There's no comparison, the fit/finish on the VW is so much better
Boffin Proven by people’s own experiences and feedbacks. I spent 3 months thinking of owning an E Golf, but after all that period I changed my mind. I might be wrong, but this is my point of view.
Someone or a company must standardize all chargers or the business of selling EVs will belong to the manufacturer who provides the most charging stations. The e-Golf would be feasible for anyone who can install a quick charger at home and travels within the range parameters. Otherwise Tesla wins again because of its commitment to infrastructure. I predict that Tesla's next big business will be licensing their charging technology to other manufacturers. IMHO.
They already have released most of their patents for any other company to use. The problem isn't standardizing charges, its the fact that you do need multiple apps to see where all the charging stations in any given location and 2 we still can't just plug into a ev station and just charge by the minute. However Petro-Canada and Electrify Canada aim to change that.
Dear god I hope not. To give you an idea of how good Tesla are at doing things, watch the Rich Rebuilds series where he tries to buy a used Model X from Tesla
Boffin , yes, I enjoy Rich Rebuilds. He has definitely demonstrated the many flaws Tesla has. Nevertheless they are still ramping up production to meet demand. The mainstream automobile manufacturers have yet to catch up to Tesla in regards to building EV's or charging stations. Other manufacturers have yet to produce enough volume to assess their ability to produce a quality EV daily driver.
Full electric cars are not clean, not energy efficient, and not a good economic investment. The battery technology is dirty to manufacture and recycle. If you want to save money and be as clean as possible, get a 2020 Toyota Corolla hybrid and keep the vehicle for at least 10 years. That car is built like a bank vault.
That's not true at all. Electric cars are clean. Electric cars emit 15% less CO2 than a gasoline car of the exact same size assuming the car is charged using 100% coal power. Gasoline and diesel cars and trucks are only 33% efficient. It takes millions of kWhs to extract, refine, and transport oil and gas whereas electric cars and plug-in hybrids just use the electricity directly. Nova Scotia, 64% of their grid consists of coal power. I just told you that electric cars are 15% cleaner even if they're charged from 100% coal power. So, electric cars are extremely clean, especially in Quebec, BC, Manitoba, Ontario, PEI, NL and other places with plenty of renewable energy. As for recycling, batteries sealed and safe for the environment. They aren't easy to recycle right now but the recycling methods are improving. If you're even bringing up the topic of efficiency or recycling because you claim electric cars are green, you're just creating a strawman. Anti-EV trolls like you don't actually know anything about electric cars. ruclips.net/video/oKFOqMZmuA8/видео.html A company in Toronto is using state-of-the-art tech to extract 100% of the precious materials out of the batteries. A Corolla hybrid is a terrible car. The batteries are Nickel metal hybrid batteries that don't last long and the car can't even be plugged in. It's a good looking new car with old tech that didn't even make good sense 15 years ago.
LOL, $46,250 CAD with the Technology & Driver Assistance package and anything other than basic paint. You'd have to be an idiot not to buy a Tesla Model 3 Standard @ $46,500. Speaking of infrastructure, you are also extremely limited with options to quickly charge on the road as they have NO DC fast charging infrastructure like the Tesla Supercharger network.
@Anthony T My e-Golf wasn't that much, but your opinion is based solely on purchase cost. You forgot to add in the douche factor of driving a Tesla, which if my opinion makes it a deal breaker. Oh, and I've never needed to use DC fast charging, but I could at my choice of several local stations if I wanted to.
2 out of three people didn't rinse their cars down properly after the salted road. I have an infiniti from the north with also rust on the bottom after 20k miles.
Gordon Freeman some of the condos in Vancouver/Toronto cost more than a million dollar. More expensive than some of the houses. Ur comment is completely senseless.
@@gordonfreeman5434 But those are the people that want to save money and are usually into saving the environment. Not to mention it's based off an economy car to start with.
No doubt hybrid and ICE engines are most efficient for people living in exburbs and suburbs with triple digit daily mileage usage. But I do grudgingly agree there is a need for e vehicles in urban areas provided the charging infrastructure exists. Which is the biggest constraint actually period. This assumes also the urban user drives less than the range limit per week also, never mind the daily charging constraint.batterires manufacturing complex is a dirty dirty heavy metal world, which hipsters fail to cite when discussing benefits. Now, if solid state arteries and less usage of heavy rare earth metals are needed in the future, well then now we are really talking. But I suppose progress is better than none provided the net benefits are there.
This is just not a pratical car. I don't get it. $45 for 200 KM (125 miles) is only 2.78 miles per dollar. I have a Jetta TDI that has $2.75 for 40 miles or 14.5 miles per dollar. Trucks at 20 MPG would have that to 7 miles per dollar and you can do all kinds of things with a truck. You gotta be crazy to take it on long trips because the range is short. And then why have such an expensive to operate car just to run around town or go to the grocery store? You can get a cheap, old beater to do that and you won't care if it gets dinged in the parking lot.
That is just 1 scenario. If I owned an e-Golf id be charging it at home on off peak hours. Plus it would be the car that my family would use for short trips like going shopping taking the kids to sports or going to the gym. The achilles heel of EV's is time and infrastructure. The benefits are fuel savings and cost of maintenance.
$33 to fill this thing up from 20%??? Plus $12 for parking? Are you kidding me?! Oh man, the EV world has a lottttt of obstacles to overcome before this method of transportation will be taking over.
It's funny to read all the people hating on this e-golf. Must be all the people that couldn't get one. I own this car and love the hell out of it. Charge at work. Even got 14k winning.
it is a little bit expensive for the performance but the build quality is of course exceptional.
the successor "ID Neo" will be a very very huge improvement with a much better price / performance ratio. they want to ship it at the end of the year and they start to take orders in may this year.
for canada it probably will take a while because they cannot produce enough of that MEB based cars because we already know that there will be a shortage of batteries.
Same boat here. Got it when the 14k rebate was still around. Fantastic car!
@@budsfan1970 got it on the last day. Congrats on yours. They are really nice for the 35k price tag wouldn't pay a dollar more
I test drove one. coming from an audi i liked the styling and interior. however the performance sucked balls. i got roasted by a 90's toyota corolla at a red light. embarrassing 10 second 0-60. . there should be a sport mode that cuts that in half for a little fun. the kona was waaaay quicker.
Just visited my local VW dealer (Canada) who told me to not go near it, every single one they sold has had MAJOR issues with it, both design and build quality.
There is a waiting list of about a year in East Canada for one.... advised many times to not buy one.
My work round trip was 60 miles i’m able to charge at home and this car saved me $3000 a year on gas and oil. Super underrated car. And I still have it no problems at all.
I’ve had this car for about 6 weeks now and have put 1000 miles on it, and I love it. I charge it at work for free on a chargepoint station. Fun to drive, comfortable, and great quality. I get about 135 miles of range, but it works fine for me because I still have my ICE Nissan Fro tier if I need to go long distance. I might get a 40amp home charger, but I probably do t need to.
Just tried it yesterday and I have to say, I'm sold. 100%. I loved it so much!
Mike is winning me over and that's not easily done. Thx Mike for bringing the facts and leaving the the sales pitch for the dealers.
You realize if you're not driving 200km a day, a regular 120V/15A outlet will keep your eGolf topped up just fine, right ? The math is an empty eGolf on 120V/10A will take about 30hours to charge, but most people park a car at least 12 hours/day, so you can easily put 100km into it over night. No need for 240V (although it's nice to have).
All depends on what you need. I'm retired, live in a small city, and I'd be surprised if I drive 5,000 KM a year. There's a bigger city about 30 KMs away but I think I was there once last month, and a fairly large city about 110KMs away. I think I was last there five years ago. An iMiev would suit me perfectly. I have a house where I could plug it in every night. With that little car, I think the 110V outlet would suffice.
I've one like this and i love it. Very efficient, low consumption, good autonomy
Got a 2016 egolf now, waiting for my brand new one to be delivered in July. Will be great with more range 👍
I bought my 2018 e-golf new last September. I now have 18,000k on it.
I have a ChargePoint charger in my garage which automatically starts charging after 7pm when rates are low.
I can have it start any time I wish but it’s very rare that I have charged during a more ‘expensive’ time.
Since September I’ve spent about $280 charging the car which works out to about 64 kilometres per dollar.
With gas at 118/litre, this works out to about 340 kilometres (213 miles) per gallon. As gas prices go up this summer those numbers will increase.
Simply, $1.18 x 4.549 = $5.36 per gallon.
For $5.36 I can drive 340 kilometres.
Also real world range in the summer is over 300 kilometres and in very cold winter is around 220.
I reached those numbers many times, driving normally. Not like an adrenaline junky and not like someone trying to break a range record.
Very misleading video.
I have a 2019 Tesla Model 3 LR and I’m thinking of picking up one of these used for a second car or maybe even replacing the Tesla. Reasons include VW has better build quality, better interior ergonomics (a ski pass-through, imagine!) and better customer treatment from VW, Golf is quieter inside, and when it gets really cold (less than minus ten) my ‘long-range’ Tesla gets 250 km on the highway (50% reduction) before charging is required, meaning I still want a diesel for longer road trips. However the Tesla has virtues, just not $75,000 worth of them; a less expensive e-Golf is attractive to me still after six months of Tesla ownership.
$4 to $6 to charge with TOU rates here in Southern California
Well I have E-Golf with full equipment and I can tell it’s a lot more comfortable to seat in leather seats than in those standard ones.
Price in Norway is 54 000$(Canadian)...
But it really pays of...10 000 km=320$ if you charge on parking lot which is really cheap if you consider that a liter of petrol is 2.5$ 😂
But if you charge at home,10 000 km= 140$
Also in Norway we don’t have to pay annual tex fee like we have to pay for the cars with internal combustion engines...
But anyway range during the winter is something like 150-180km per charge,wile the temperature is around -5...when the temperature gets around 20 degrees,range goes up to approximately 260km 😁
And I don’t know why,but my E-Golf is a lot heavier,it weighs 2050kg 🤔
So What range did you actually observe during your week with the car in the winter?
Always get the home charger. That means that you don't have to pay to charge. That makes the car much cheaper in the long run.
Especially if you also have solar panels.
Thanks for the review. I really enjoyed watching this. Very informative especially for the people who are exploring EV in Canadian market. There are important factors such as cost of charging, lifestyle, limitation on charging for people living in Condominiums which was addressed in your review. One thing I would like to see is the cost of insurance let say in Toronto compare to other cars in the same size.
dang I've never paid more than $5 to recharge my EV in Seattle
If you don’t have a way to charge an EV at home, don’t get an EV.
That's undoubtedly the most practical strategy. But there's a difference between a vehicle that REQUIRES daily recharging and one that can be driven for a couple of days (or more) or cope with unexpected demands beyond the usual daily routine.
it would be interesting how the charging situation is improving over the time. supermarkets also start to have low cost charging stations to make them attractive to the customers. so, when you buy your groceries there, they might give you free credit for charging as a bonus.
@@maschinenraum in Germany, many supermarkets are offering "free" charging (though you need to buy something at the store)
Spoken like someone who has never owned an EV. While I do have home charging available, 90% of my charging is at free public chargers. That could easily be 100% if I tried, or if I had more than a 24kwh battery.
I agree Mike, better to wait a few years to see what else comes to market
More like 1 year. VW, Mini, Hyundai, Honda and more will release new and updated models by summer/fall of next year in Canada. That is when I intend to seriously look to by an EV.
Yes, other cars have more range, but why pay for more ranger (and more weight) than you need. 200km may be plenty for people with a 20 km commute. However, buying an EV when you don't have an outlet at home is tough.
Only issue i have with this car is the 14-20 hour charging time considering I live in a small city in China with almost not a lot of charging stations . But I'm really considering to buy this or just wait for the Honda e..
My favourite part of the golf is that it looks normal and doesn't look all dorky like many electric cars.
Biger battery longer range but also longer charging time. This is optimal for around City driving. I make 70km per day so its perfect car for me.
I think the “gross “ 16” wheels are nice looking but overall I’d have to give this eGolf a thumbs down for high price and low range. Hoping the next Gen will resolve. Until then well I’ll just have to continue ripping around in my ‘17 gti W/6 speed manual. Old school is the best school. 😅
Good point about people who cannot install chargers at home. If I live in apartment block without ability to install charging unit, I would need to have fast chargers in around max 20km radius. It would make sense to have EV only if it has range of at least 300km in bad conditions and I would be able to charge it to this range within 30mins max. Big cities are the biggest market for EVs in the future with millions of people living there. ICE car is still better for cities. Hopefully new EV fast charging infrastructure will be designed with cities in mind and not only long distance travel.
Ouch...OK, here's the perspective from the US side of the border (where measurements have to be translated into our parochial units.) We're a family of three living in the Puget Sound region with a teenager who'll be driving in the next year or so. An addition to the family fleet that currently consists of a much loved GTI and a KIA Sorento is on the horizon. And I'd love to make that an eGolf. But just as the three most important things about real estate is "location, location, and (well, you get the idea), the most important things about an EV are range, range, and range. I'm lucky to be able to add a fast charger at home and being something of tree hugger, I'd be happy to do so. But with a frequent daily requirement of, say, a 100 mile range, an eGolf just doesn't cut it. I could barely make it from my home to Seattle and back and I don't relish doing it without AC or other draws on the battery just to be sure I don't end up on the side of the road on the way home. And even if I do make it, it means finding a public recharging station in Seattle or daily recharging at home. It might serve as a daily commuter but only if no unexpected demands come along to call for a longer range on any given day.
For someone living in an urban location, hopefully with the ability to install a fast charger, the 125 mile range of the eGolf (or other limited range EV's) can be dealt with, especially if it's not one's only transportation option. But for me and many of my neighbors with long daily commutes a limited range EV makes sense only if it's used to get to the nearest bus/train terminal. I might consider one for my teenage daughter going back and forth to school with a 20 mile round trip commute but that sort of entitlement is a bridge too far.
So, unless VW can extend the range of the eGolf to at least match those of the new options from Hyundai and KIA or be willing to buy a Tesla in the manner I order kitchen supplies from Amazon I'll have to drop it from the list of possibilities. And I'm sure I'm not alone.
The bolt is also a great option.
@@travisburdess1071 Not quite large enough for my needs (two adults, a teenage daughter, and a big dog) but I agree for a single person or couple looking for an urban runabout it's worth considering.
@@stephenhendricks103 huh? you must be thinking about a different car. 240 miles range seating for five and my hundred twenty pound dog can fit easily behind the back seats look out the back window. Definitely not a urban only car. DCFast makes it more than capable traveler
@@travisburdess1071 Sorry, Travis. Have to admit I haven't examined the Bolt very closely. My impressions were based mainly on casual comments from reviewers of other EV's and the difference between the Volt and the Bolt. And I didn't mean to suggest the Bolt was an "urban only" car, only that it was focused more directly on urban duties than some other EV's. So, to summarize,: My bad. I'll take a closer look at the Bolt. :)
Edit: BTW, I just checked some specs and found Bolt length to be 164." That's about 4 inches shorter than my GTI and my dog demands that he have a spot in the back seat rather than in the "way back" behind the second row. On the other hand, I was surprised to see that the actual passenger volume (94 cubic feet) is virtually equal. So perhaps the difference is that my big dog is less willing than yours to be consigned to the space behind the rear seat. I'll point out his privileged status when I see him. :)
@@stephenhendricks103 it's all good. We bought our Bolt 2 months ago and have piled on 4k miles. It's such an impressive and highly underrated EV, I feel mostly because it's GM. What really sold me, was watching the drivetrain tear down video from Weber state automotive department. The professor called it a work of art, a thing of beauty, and seeing how it's built, I have to agree. So I bought one. Traded our hybrid accord and our Titan is next on the chopping block because it hasn't moved in since bringing the Bolt home. Thinking I'm going to put a pre order in on the VW ID to replace that giant gas guzzling paper weight in my driveway. But until then wife and I will keep sharing the Bolt.
I wonder who would still buy the current e-Golf? Price/range is terrible. I am very excited about the new VW I.D. series though and planning to buy one. Also, the new I.D. series is built from scratch based on the MEB platform purely designed for EV's. The e-Golf is an electrified ICE model.
ID series isn't coming to the U.S., so e-golf is all we get for now.
Thanks for the info but that is expensive and with a limited range.
What do you need more than 100miles of range for? Are you driving over 50mi a day? If not, and you have a home, then just plug it in overnight, and you never have to even think about your range. Besides, you can just rent a hybrid any time you need to travel, which shouldn't be a problem considering how much money you're going to save on gas and maintenance. And guess what? You can run your home off that thing for a whole day, if the power ever goes out.
Bought a 2018 1.8T with panoramic sunroof, leatherette seats, manual, 30k taxes n fees in. Boom! Fun to drive. Drive w manual is a journey in traffic.
There's a deal right now for about $10,000 plus tax in Bay Area. Might be another version of the car though.
This is a horrible review. 35kwh is more than enough capacity for the city use stated. My 24kwh capacity is plenty and that includes some highway use as well. And the charging example he gave is totally ridiculous. I can only guess that he searched for the most expensive option he could find and then presented it like a typical example. Most public charging is CHEAP. Often it is included in the cost of parking, if there is any charge at all. I can charge at home, but usually use public chargers because they are free. My monthly energy cost is about 6 dollars.
the range is garbage compared to what you can get from Hyundai and Kia for a similar price range.
The egolf cost 36 700$ and the Hyundai KONA is like 44 000$
Get a 60+ kw of you can’t charge at home , also wait till the Id e-golf is released first orders may 2019, delivery nov 2019
i am sure that the VW ID Neo and the Seat el-born will be exceptional regarding their price/performance ratio. however, it could be that they do not sell them that cheap at first because we already know that they will have a shortage on batteries. so they can also sell them a little bit more expensive. they will also sell it with the higher capacity at first, probably with their 62kwh battery which gives a nice range.
maschinenraum no vw have already secured the lithium required equivalent to 15-20years production, and have already started production (shared with the e-Tron production line)
@@ram64man from what i heard is that VW is buying resources but for supplying them to the cell manufacturers somewhere in asia. they do not have their own cell factory now but they are planning their own factory. what they have is a battery factory but they still need to buy the cells for building batteries.
It’s the perfect shape and size for a city based EV. Incognito, practical and yet tastefully handsome. Not every EV has to look like it was taken from Bladerunner or Tron. I’ll never be buying one, but if I had to... this would be at the top of my list. Also, in the Nation’s Capital (Ottawa) there is ZERO Tesla dealers ... but there has got to be more a half a dozen VW dealers. Something the Kool-Aid drinking Tesla dreamers really ought to consider. Thanks for a sincerely interesting video.
... the range is somewhat disappointing though. But I’m certain that VW will correct this issue in the next model year(s). ... Hopefully.
I love this car so much. I have a few problems with FWD electric cars. They make little sense. Electric motors are small and compact. They should've put it in the rear and also give it an optional tow hitch to make it even more functionality.
Good point.
Where EVs differ from gas cars:
1. Charge at home, overnight. You have an electric car, why go somewhere else to charge it? Its like reviewing a phone and complaining that you need to go to the mall to charge it - no one would think that, why so with EV?
2. Cost savings (when charging at home). Driving an EV is about 8-10x less than gas equivalent. It costs about $1 to travel 100km vs $10 for a gas car in traffic (~80% driving).
3. Perfect for commuting in/out of the city, and perfect city cars. EVs are more efficient driving in stop/go traffic than gas ones, don't pollute, are quiet, and are quick off the like. What you didn't say is that any electric car beats even faster gas cars up to 40km/h, which is most inner city driving speeds.
4. No maintenance. Gas engines start breaking down after 200K or so, but on an electric car all you'll have to do is change the batteries if they ever go bad after their typical 10 year warranty, and you're good to go. Batteries are 1/2 as cheap as 5 years ago, 1/4 than 10 years ago, and will be much cheaper in the future. An EV bought now could literally last you a lifetime with minimal cost.
So in the end, why review cars biased towards keeping things the same (going to gas stations?), but not the cheap transportation, clean, quiet cities, even in the heaviest traffic?
He mentioned he does not have the ability to charge at home. He tried to get his landlord to allow for home charging, and the landlord refused. Public charging is the only option in situations like this (I am also in the same situation). That is a problem which should be rectified as more and more people get EV's and the demand is too high for apartment buildings to continue to refuse putting in chargers of some sort. Also, the E-golf is just not competitive anymore where range is considered.
@Robert Blackford because that's what it costs me, charging at home vs paying for gas and driving in the city. Gas is $1.4/L, car consumes ~12L/100km in the city, so $16.5/100km. EV drives about 4km/kwh which costs 6.5c at night, so $1.65/100kms... Literally 10x cheaper, and no gas stations involved.
Recommendation from an ex-EV driver (Me): Don't buy an EV car unless you have a home OR work charger where you can plug in on a daily basis. If that condition is not met, forget about getting EV car. Period.
*Exception: However, you can get a Tesla since its Supercharge (Version 3) is ridiculously super fast. And Tesla's supercharge stations are like spider web, virtually everywhere.
Great work, Mike!
Also, I think I have an identical pair of gloves - work quite well for touchscreens.
Don't hold your breath on a longer range eGolf, VW has already stated that it's days are numbered and it will not continue after 2020, so don't expect them to put any money into it. For VW it's all about their I.D. series cars.... which is terribly sad for the eGolf. It's a great car! Sadly hampered by a small battery and almost zero support from VW. I had a 2015 SEL eGolf for 4 years and loved it. but now I have a Tesla Model 3 and there is no regret at all. I get 325 miles per charge on the Model 3.... that make the eGolf's 125 miles (mine was the older 24KWhr battery with only 85 miles) look like a sliver on the Tesla's battery indicator....Plus the performance is more Porsche than eco Golf. I loved the eGolf as a starter EV or a second car. But with the Model 3 I don't need another car anymore. Yes you can go all EV and do all you need to do :) Buy a used eGolf to get hooked on EV's then upgrade to a Tesla to truly enjoy the future now.
Early adopters such as you always suffer the effects of subsequent development and engineering advances. You're certainly correct that VW will replace rather than extend the life of the eGolf, just as GM dropped the Volt when it introduced the Bolt. But VW is strongly committed to "electrification." And the emergence of the Korean brands and extended range Leaf will only encourage that commitment. No disrespect intended for Tesla. But that brand, too, is a favorite among early adopters. Most mainstream manufacturers will continue to introduce competitors and Tesla will be challenged to keep up. (Here's hoping they do.)
Charging that last 15% could take as long as from 20-85%, I would only charge 100% if it was overnight at home. Most of the time that extra is not necessary. You did not mention the DC fast charging your car is capable of. This is faster and cheaper than level 2 at public stations. DCFC is about US$0.10 /min at 40-50kWh (or 0.67kW/minute). With your 35kWh battery charging from 0-85% (30kWh in 45 minutes) price would be about US$4.50 and give you at least 120 miles or 193.121 km at 3.5miles/kW (you can get 4.5mi/kw in the city in warmer weather).
Seems like this car has not been equipped with the extra A/C unit. This one helps to heat up quickly etc but is an extra here in Europe. Also, this car can have leather seats, electric seats etc.
The e-Golf is on sale in Canada now ... but in 2020 there will be the ID.4 (aka ID BUZZ) in Canada ;)
I think the range makes this car strictly a city EV. Funny thing, remember last gen of VW Golf was named 'City' Golf. Anyhow, 200km is plenty enough for commuting winter-summer, just not intercity traveling. I get why VW is proposing such a shorter range - it also comes with a much lower price than the Kona EV. Remember that the Tesla 3 base also has only 220km range for about the same price range as the E Golf so there is a market for this. On top of it, lower range means smaller battery so more trunk space: it makes the E version having pretty much the same space as the regular Golf version, perhaps this also explains the choice for a smaller range.
i would think there is gov rebates for condo to install plugs for ev owners ,, they could just use 1 parking stall for ev charging and set up some kind of booking to use it etc
Is there any changes from the 2018 model to the 2019?
It's definitely not hard to switch to all electric even with just a 120V outlet. You just charge over night, and most people don't empty their battery every day.
For folks who lives in areas where they have winter, I would go by the winter range when shopping for an EV. Because battery efficiency drops like a rock when the temp approaches freezing. Brrr...
In the deep freeze of -20 C about 50% loss. So doesn't work as someone's only vehicle. Pretty lame effort by VW. At least they and the German auto industry have committed to transition to electric. They just need to get it right like the Porsche Taycan and of course Tesla. At this pace it will take VW 20 years to get there and then another 20 for people replace their ICE car. Yikes! Things need to accelerate.
Of course it will cost you a lot if you charge to 100% on a level 3 charger. You should always charge to 80-85% max. After that, charging speed drops. You're better on a level 2.
$45.00 for 200km is ridiculous,A 6000 pound hemi Ram pick-up can go that far on half that Money
$45.00 for 200km? Because you paid to go into a garage and then paid with some sort of terrible overcharging company? I will never buy a VW after the dieselgate thing, but your experience with the cost of charging is pretty unique. My max cost was maybe $8 US? I will agree though, the beauty of having an electric car is the driving into your garage plugging it in for a $2 fill up and never going to gas station again. I wouldn't buy one without my own access to power.
the dieselgate thing is simply blown out of proportion. especially in the U.S. so that they can protect their market and sell more of their own inefficient cars with a very bad mileage.
A fully electric VW....what could possibly go wrong.
It's not like VW's are known for electrical problems...oh wait....
chris pridham probably lied about its emissions
I'm in the same situation however living in Montreal with a mayor that is more for public transportation which best ev with the longest range and charging speed & best warranty to get. It's a tough choice.
Is assasinating your mayor an option if you're dissatisfied with his policies?
@@JulezWinnfield ha ha ha , holding my vote until....
@@keitha.1888
Uh ok. I thought you were advocating for his assassination since his policies make it less feasible for you to purchase this E-Golf.
Great honest review.
More than gas, wow.
Charging is where the money will be made.
The charging infrastructure is what hurts evs the most even tesla, they each have different fees, some will work with your car some wont without adapters, some only for one manufacturer, the wait times, the charging times, and the rates can fluctuate hourly.
If you can charge at home and or work, than it could work fine.
I prefer having a least a small gas generator inside, or a plugin hybrid, that way you get the best of both worlds with no anxiety, and even an apartment dweller can live with one, and of course hybrids are great.
Companies are looking to profit off the charging stations and competing with each other instead of working with each other for standards and balance.
Gas stations on the other hand are car brand neutral, it just works, and prices are more uniform and no adapters needed and you are not turned away or charged a fee to even enter.
The point of EVs is to charge at home. This whole 'charging infrastructure' is a holdover from gas cars and bares no real problem for EVs. Think of EVs like your phone you charge overnight. Charging at home is where EVs rule, and commuting up to 80-100km/day. Even with just a 110V charger you get about 80km range overnight.
Great review
No plastic wheelwell guards and no heated steering wheel -- out for me!
Cheers
The biggest problem with the E-Golf is the 12-18 month waiting list to get it. Add to that 6-7% financing and you've got yourself a hard to justify EV. Still, there's a huge demand for it and VW has the audacity to say that there's no market in NA for an affordable EV hatch. Because of that, there's a high chance we won't get the ID hatch which I've been waiting for since 2016. Also, you should consider moving lol. If they won't let you install a wall charger in your building, they just show everyone that they're closed-minded and refuse to acknowledge the fact that EVs are the future.
Um no. The biggest problem with the E-Golf is that nobody wants it. Period.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Right, if nobody wants it, how come there's a 12-18 month waiting list? How come VW can't provide enough of them for all the Europeans who want one? Just look up its sales figures in Europe, it's the best seller among the Leaf and more recently, the Model 3
@@vladsaghin7644 In North America nobody wants it.
gross wheels??? Thos are so cool!
What?? you must be special snowflake. Those wheels are awful
@@yahtadi5152 ❄️
The wheels are to increase range
He never ever mentioned the Tesla model 3 when comparing vehicles. Tesla has solved all of the issues that he brings up and the short-range version compares to this one in price. I really don't understand why anybody would buy another brand EV with what is currently available in the market by other brands.
Tesla is very expensive.
I have a warm garage. I have a spot to plug in at work. Now I need an EV with good range and that $5000 discount the feds promised.
Condominiums shouldn't be able to stop anyone from having access to charging infrastructure. Even if one person has a plug-in car, they shouldn't be stopped from having access. Since apartment buildings and condo buildings have incredibly high amperage service connections. They're perfect for plug-in vehicle owners.
I think what could/should be done to help ameliorate condo board members concerns about plug-in's could be addressed with ID cards that are specific to each person's unit. Plus, the cars could help out by providing load leveling service for when peak power demand happens. Or, when there is a power failure. Everyone should be pretty happy with that.
Exactly. That makes sense. So every night that unused power is shifted towards the buildings EVs and such. Quite logical. Plus which building doesn’t want to the first Environmental Considerate building. ... and they could (would) charge more!
Time to review the ID.3.
A very nice car overall, but the problem is the range is still on the short side. That said the e-Golf holds promise & VW group is pumping tons of money from all of its divisions. The successor of this car is the ID hatchback which is promised ~330km range and about $30k USD prices.
Great review Mike!
Just check on chargehub the most expensive dc fast charger in Toronto is $20 an hour and from 20% to 80 take about 30 minutes, eather you lefted it plugged in and returned much later, I'm thinking your a newbie at car charging and waited to 100%
Here's what I want for my FIRST Electric Car: BASIC Car ( K. I. S.S.) ~ Charge on 110vac~ No Computers ~ Digital Read outs ~ 100
So a used e-Golf with a little warranty left sounds about perfect for your needs. Voilá, enjoy it.
@@acchaladka WHERE??LOL
Sadly 99% of the time if you are doing charging correctly, its maximum 9 bucks us to charge
@motormouth SO what ís the realistic range of the e-golf in winter with the heating on? You say a lot about it, but not what it is. My guess would be less then 100 km.
If i got an E-Golf, first thing I'd do is rip off that hideous chrome fake-exhaust application.
Terrible range, which VW won’t update. This is the newest model and still the same as last year. The new KIA Nero or Kona is way better for the money. That 240 watt charging cable at an extra $1000 is ridiculously priced. That is $600 from Tesla, but they give you a ne-ma 1450 adapter with the car at no added cost. Does the same thing as the $600 adapter. The design is so dated for the e-golf. I owned a 2005 VW GTI and this e- golf looks the same. If you bought a Tesla Model 3 you could do extended trips with the Tesla infrastructure. At 43K US dollar. But not a hatchback. For a hatchback a Chevy Bolt is way better than that e-golf.
Very good car i love this car
Beautiful for a summer holiday or to buy it for uber
Here in america, only the e-golf gets this 9.2” screen. makes no sense. not even the Arteon or Golf R have this. The biggest all of the other models have is 8”
Is it expensive to maintain Golf? in long run?
An EV has next to no operating or maintenance costs. You use the brakes less, because of regenerative braking. The coolant pump for the batteries would probably the only real thing that would have to be replaced within any significant timeframe, but that's not going to be any different than in an ICE Golf.
@@badsamaritan8223 well let's not forget the battery pack. Those can be expensive.
As a EV owner, you are making me cringe with all the inaccurate negative things said throughout this video about "charging".
Owning a EV and relying on public level 2 charging is the equivalent of depending on charging your phone at one of the kiosks at the mall or your neighbors house... Not even a friend's house, a neighbors. Nobody does it unless it's an emergency and you shouldn't even be talking about it, as it's not a realistic option for your cell phone. Treat a EV exactly like a cell phone, nothing more nothing less. You have the proper cord for your phone for home, get the proper cord for your car for home.
Also, a 40A level 2 can be bought off Amazon for $350.
This isn't as hard or scary as you are making this sound.
He did say that his building management refused to provide outlets for charging at home though.
@@Popupkiller And that's a significant issue for many potential customers. So just as government has provided massive tax subsidies to the oil industry and built highways for a hundred years to encourage the proliferation of vehicles burning dinosaur juice, the far less generous subsidies necessary to expand the infrastructure for electric vehicles to ameliorate the environmental damage of those vehicles is more than justified.
Well said Travis. It looks like he went out of his way to find the worse, downtown Toronto gouger, then presented 45 dollars as a typical cost to charge. EV owners know that low cost and even free charging infrastructure is available in all major cities and highways.
Only 200k range? Why spend so much to be inconvenienced by an electric car? Just Uber everywhere and save money. Then rent a standard car for long trips.
Very true. I priced one...whoa! It gets up there plus tabs and insurance.
Or just drive uber and make the car make you money
First and foremost, it's not always about cost. In this capitalist society we are brainwashed to always look for the cheaper price. It's just brainwashing - nothing personal when saying this but if you think of it you realize it's true even for the most basic things, like food. Anyhow, for some people an electric car is a different animal: no more oil changes (so no more garage appointments), no pollution and gas smell, easy start up in any weather, no 'engine' warming up, great acceleration, no engine noise, no transmission/clutch problems, and the list goes on and on. It's a matter of choice, not money. Of course, this does not apply to everybody. As for the price, the Tesla 3 costs about the same in the base model and has the same range, so pricing wise it's good.
@@Peppermint1 capitalism is the exact opposite of what you claim. It's about giving consumers a choice - not about "cheaper" prices. That's why some consumers purchase Porsche or other brands. My point is: Why pay more for inconvenience when the performance and features are less than a gasoline equivalent? It can only be one reason - to make a green statement.
@@morganvon5664 It's not really a clam, rather a personal thought. I think the pressure or 'lowering the price' should be controlled somehow, otherwise in several situations it puts pressure not just on production costs, but also on the workers pay and labor conditions. This is an interesting debate. As for the EV cars, there is no doubt many consumers want to make a green statement when purchasing one, or they also do it by conviction (obviously a low sales number is not going to chance something to the climate). But there are other factors (like ones mentioned above), I personally think EV is still more convenient than gasoline - except for the range issue which would be excluded if the car is strictly used for commuting. I think this would be the reason why people pay more for 'less' - this less includes different advantages not present on a combustion engine vehicle.
Hearing a skinny white guy complain about dinosaur juice makes me realize that I should be more thankful for the things I have.
Should of been at least 200 or 230 range
If car price is more expensive there’s not much point driving EV, except for saving the environment.
gtb5 I have the Kona EV and it is at least $15k more than the gas version after the rebate. It’ll take a long time to make that back. That being said, I don’t know why, but I don’t think I can go back to a gas car now. The extra torque and quiet run is awesome.
Robert Blackford yeah but of the old car gets purchased and driven by someone then it’s all good.
Robert Blackford hey Robert you’re being an ass. Anyway, I don’t need to justify my purchase to you. I hope you enjoy driving the same car for 50 years then. Enjoy.
Robert Blackford you started with the negative comments. You’re the one that seems to make the dumb comments. I drove my last car for 7 years and it’ll serve someone for another 10 years probably. Meanwhile I’ll be driving the EV 100kms for work a day saving a substantial amount of pollution.
resale value
buy one used in a few......
Would it not be better to go with a Tesla model 3? +- 360km
33 bucks for less than 28 Kw?
I don’t believe it.
In my dream i want buy this car god help me e golf thank you👍🏾
Doesn't bode well for German auto industry releasing last gen tech. Korea (Hyundai/Kia) and USA (Tesla) kicking a**.
So expensive... Very expensive... And it does not provide so much... Milage...
Vasileios Petropoulos but such small running costs!
@@martijnkosters9024 yes maybe... But if u can afford to buy a car costing 33.000 pounds u can buy instead a car with 10.000 or 12.000 pounds and after a 8 or 10 years u will reach the same amount of saving the money for instance if u buy a car that it is consuming 0.11 or 0.15p per km with a comparison of a car consuming 0.045 or 0.05p per km... U will achieve the same amount of spending after 8 or 9 years...
Just get a Tesla 3
one moment oconnor and woodbine next second downtown and back to oconnor drive then over to laird drive back downtown
EV's are way over priced. They will need to reduce costs to open the market for avg owners in order to gain market share from ICE. I like the Egolf, but not the range and price. Perhaps the used market will be much better.
Nissan Leaf and Chevy Bolt have proved to be the best to own.
Proved by whom? Drive a Leaf (similar price), drive a Bolt (which is 50% more expensive), and then drive an eGolf. There's no comparison, the fit/finish on the VW is so much better
Boffin
Proven by people’s own experiences and feedbacks. I spent 3 months thinking of owning an E Golf, but after all that period I changed my mind. I might be wrong, but this is my point of view.
Someone or a company must standardize all chargers or the business of selling EVs will belong to the manufacturer who provides the most charging stations. The e-Golf would be feasible for anyone who can install a quick charger at home and travels within the range parameters. Otherwise Tesla wins again because of its commitment to infrastructure. I predict that Tesla's next big business will be licensing their charging technology to other manufacturers. IMHO.
They already have released most of their patents for any other company to use. The problem isn't standardizing charges, its the fact that you do need multiple apps to see where all the charging stations in any given location and 2 we still can't just plug into a ev station and just charge by the minute. However Petro-Canada and Electrify Canada aim to change that.
Dear god I hope not. To give you an idea of how good Tesla are at doing things, watch the Rich Rebuilds series where he tries to buy a used Model X from Tesla
Boffin , yes, I enjoy Rich Rebuilds. He has definitely demonstrated the many flaws Tesla has. Nevertheless they are still ramping up production to meet demand. The mainstream automobile manufacturers have yet to catch up to Tesla in regards to building EV's or charging stations. Other manufacturers have yet to produce enough volume to assess their ability to produce a quality EV daily driver.
Vehicle means to me is "freedom". I don't feel with EV!
Full electric cars are not clean, not energy efficient, and not a good economic investment. The battery technology is dirty to manufacture and recycle. If you want to save money and be as clean as possible, get a 2020 Toyota Corolla hybrid and keep the vehicle for at least 10 years. That car is built like a bank vault.
In what way is it dirty to make?
That's not true at all. Electric cars are clean. Electric cars emit 15% less CO2 than a gasoline car of the exact same size assuming the car is charged using 100% coal power. Gasoline and diesel cars and trucks are only 33% efficient. It takes millions of kWhs to extract, refine, and transport oil and gas whereas electric cars and plug-in hybrids just use the electricity directly. Nova Scotia, 64% of their grid consists of coal power. I just told you that electric cars are 15% cleaner even if they're charged from 100% coal power.
So, electric cars are extremely clean, especially in Quebec, BC, Manitoba, Ontario, PEI, NL and other places with plenty of renewable energy.
As for recycling, batteries sealed and safe for the environment. They aren't easy to recycle right now but the recycling methods are improving. If you're even bringing up the topic of efficiency or recycling because you claim electric cars are green, you're just creating a strawman. Anti-EV trolls like you don't actually know anything about electric cars. ruclips.net/video/oKFOqMZmuA8/видео.html
A company in Toronto is using state-of-the-art tech to extract 100% of the precious materials out of the batteries.
A Corolla hybrid is a terrible car. The batteries are Nickel metal hybrid batteries that don't last long and the car can't even be plugged in. It's a good looking new car with old tech that didn't even make good sense 15 years ago.
LOL, $46,250 CAD with the Technology & Driver Assistance package and anything other than basic paint. You'd have to be an idiot not to buy a Tesla Model 3 Standard @ $46,500. Speaking of infrastructure, you are also extremely limited with options to quickly charge on the road as they have NO DC fast charging infrastructure like the Tesla Supercharger network.
Anthony T the tesla standard has less features than a nicely loaded golf
@Anthony T My e-Golf wasn't that much, but your opinion is based solely on purchase cost. You forgot to add in the douche factor of driving a Tesla, which if my opinion makes it a deal breaker. Oh, and I've never needed to use DC fast charging, but I could at my choice of several local stations if I wanted to.
2 out of three people that I know which got an M3 already have rust after one winter, here in Canada
2 out of three people didn't rinse their cars down properly after the salted road. I have an infiniti from the north with also rust on the bottom after 20k miles.
What the price of beautiful girl in USA because in Uk 🇬🇧 this £28,000
Hmm 😒, no...
Tbats one big issues with EV. People in appartment buildings are out of luck
It's not for those poor ppl in concrete jungles
Gordon Freeman some of the condos in Vancouver/Toronto cost more than a million dollar. More expensive than some of the houses. Ur comment is completely senseless.
@@gordonfreeman5434 But those are the people that want to save money and are usually into saving the environment. Not to mention it's based off an economy car to start with.
No doubt hybrid and ICE engines are most efficient for people living in exburbs and suburbs with triple digit daily mileage usage. But I do grudgingly agree there is a need for e vehicles in urban areas provided the charging infrastructure exists. Which is the biggest constraint actually period. This assumes also the urban user drives less than the range limit per week also, never mind the daily charging constraint.batterires manufacturing complex is a dirty dirty heavy metal world, which hipsters fail to cite when discussing benefits. Now, if solid state arteries and less usage of heavy rare earth metals are needed in the future, well then now we are really talking. But I suppose progress is better than none provided the net benefits are there.
I think the range is 2 low.
EVs still not ready
I totally agree, as much as i want to go electric, for me it's just too soon.
Disagree.
This is just not a pratical car. I don't get it. $45 for 200 KM (125 miles) is only 2.78 miles per dollar. I have a Jetta TDI that has $2.75 for 40 miles or 14.5 miles per dollar. Trucks at 20 MPG would have that to 7 miles per dollar and you can do all kinds of things with a truck. You gotta be crazy to take it on long trips because the range is short. And then why have such an expensive to operate car just to run around town or go to the grocery store? You can get a cheap, old beater to do that and you won't care if it gets dinged in the parking lot.
That is just 1 scenario. If I owned an e-Golf id be charging it at home on off peak hours. Plus it would be the car that my family would use for short trips like going shopping taking the kids to sports or going to the gym. The achilles heel of EV's is time and infrastructure. The benefits are fuel savings and cost of maintenance.
Dinosaur juice?
Alguien que me haga un resumen en español
Ugh "kilograms" I thought he was murican. Time to Google the conversion to lbs
Lol where do you live? Americans are the only ones who use imperial as far as I know
100K LMAO
Not a dedicated electric design means it’s just a huge set of compromises. Just a compliance car. Next.
$33 to fill this thing up from 20%??? Plus $12 for parking? Are you kidding me?! Oh man, the EV world has a lottttt of obstacles to overcome before this method of transportation will be taking over.