Thanks Kurt, I appreciated you taking the time to do this, what I think is, good test. I was swinging a place (Southern PA) where the goods seemed to be just on the edge of my AT Pro stock coil's reach. After watching your tests I order the NEL coil and indeed this coil's deeper reach was exactly what i needed. Thanks again for all your instructional tidbits.
Scott Gantz You're welcome Scott. Glad you found it helpful. They're amazing coils. I wouldn't dig half of the stuff I do without it. Best of luck with it
I've been watching the hoover boys channel for going on 6 years now and it has helped me out tremendously with my detecting and getting to know my machine. I've been running this set up for a few days after running the stock coil for a year but today I really put it to the test. I've been running on pro/custom mode, full sensitivity. Ive been pinpointing by working the coil up to the target in 2 directions.. My buddy runs the xp deus and absolutely smoked me in coins which is a bit discouraging, however I absolutely killed it on iron rings and a giant axe head hahah. All hit in the mid/high 80s. got some memorials that sounded nice.. Hopefully I'm not doing something wrong. I'll press on with it and try to learn more and find more. Thank you and the guys for the years of awesome footage and spreading the joy and love of history.
Fantastic info - thanks for the great vid. Gonna give the Storm a try. Most importantly, your love token is a PHENOMENAL find - a bucket list item for me as well, and I can't tell you how happy it made me to hear your excitement - I have seen too many people online complain that they found a defaced coin which is like a gut-punch... Seemingly not realizing that it doesn't get any more special than something that meant so much to someone... The fact that it matched your wife's name is icing on the cake. I sought out two seated love tokens with my girlfriend's initials on one and first name on the other, and she wears them every day. Loved seeing you flip that date side - it was an amazing reveal. Top notch. Cheers, man....
+BB_in_ Maine Thank you for the Kind words. I love holed coins, stamped, rolled, and carved. Gives them more character. But a love token? Wow it's something special. One of my favorite finds. Most of the guys that worry too much about condition sell their finds. Not that they're anything wrong with that just not my style. Best of luck to you
I used to use an old Harbor Freight detector to look for buried Benchmarks, but after watching this video, I'm definitely saving up my $$$ to get the Garrett AT Pro with the NEL Storm (13"x14") coil. Thanks Kurt for the video.
Fantastic love token Kurt!!! Been watching your video's now for the last couple weeks, needed some type of enthusiasm to get out & hunt again, and your're sure helping me tons. Last time i was out was in the early 80's. Looking at maybe the AT Pro or At Gold. Thanks for the memories your bringing back to me! Really missed the hunting....
Thanx, Kurt! Luv this video. I've only been detecting for 2 years now (recently retired) and have learned a great deal from you and the Hoover Boys thanks to your RUclips videos. Santa brought me a Nel Storm coil for my AT Pro a few weeks ago and I'm waiting for the snow to go away (here in Utah) so I can get outdoors again. I go nuts waiting for the ground to thaw....Oh, I also got a Foo-Foo juice spray bottle from you guys just 'cause I'm a big fan of yours. Keep the good videos coming. I'm a subscriber and appreciate the professional job you do on camera.
Thank you so much for the support. The Storm can be scary at first. Believe in it. If it feels heavy. Shorten the shaft and take the coil cover off. Sweep it don't swing it. Best of luck
So I'm watching this video about listening closely to what the machine is telling you so I grab up my AT PRO and head back out into the yard.I did a factory reset pro zero max sen and started digging all of those weird sounds. After about an hour of digging iffy signals out pops a 14k gold women's wedding band.Thank you hover boys for the tips!!!!
Great job reviewing Kurt. From air test comparisons to live digs...excellent review. Those NEL coils kick you know what! I gotta get me one for my At Pro!
Awful nice of Brad to get all those nails out of the way for you! (Nice IH Brad). Information was priceless; thanks for taking the time to do that Kurt. The Love Token is one of the most amazing finds I've seen - Congrats, congrats!
Louisiana Jones Hahaha! We all dig a ton of nails there. Brads Fisher absolutely loves them!! The more nails we dig the more that's uncovered. It's a crazy process. Glad you got something out of the video. I absolutely LOVE that token!
Nice test. A friend just got this machine and I told him to get this coil. One test you didn’t show in the air or ground was how the signal is effected when the coin is at differ angles like 45° or 90° vs flat as you showed. That gets best signal but show how the signal changes when coin angle changes. Nice test I sent this video to him to watch so he will upgrade.
Well K.K I finally got the Storm coil. I've searched the Web for anything I could find to help me learn this coil. I've been out with it 2 days and it's driving me crazy it doesn't pin point as well as the stock coil and I end up with a 3ft×1ft. hole WTF I guess it takes time to figure it out. But I'm have trouble with where the actual spot is once you have it pin pointed. The coil is so huge is it at the center of the coil. I've even tried the back off method and the cross cross method. I just don't want to be 1hr looking for a pull tab. You know what I mean!Well out of all the videos out there yours was the best instructional out. Thanks for Sharing KURT. See these are the things that take time out of Kurtz life and that's what makes me a lover not a hater. Time is precious and he does it for us. SO stop the Hating.
+Baltimore bottledigger Thanks Paul. It takes time for sure. I need to do a tips and tricks video when I find the time. Don't rush it. Take your time. Measure twice cut once
Just watched your vid again as well as read all your comments! So helpful! I'm using the Storm on my ATPro. Thinking about the Thunder now. The Storm is rough on these little arms... and that's sweeping not swinging!
Great video. Just starting out and picked up an AT Pro in excellent condition for cheap and snagged one of these coils on eBay for cheap too after an Amazon review for the coil pointed me to your channel. I do plan to go multi frequency at some but want to learn first on this setup. Excited to sweep my acre of land first and then hit some wagon trails I have access on the NY/VT border on 40 acres of private land.
Okay, I have a Storm 13" x 14" coil ordered for my AT Pro and you just confirmed that I won't be sorry. I have been digging about 8" max on coins and deeper on bigger stuff. I hope to get 2"-3" or more depth with this new coil. I watched another video you did comparing the Pro, Gold and Max which makes me think the Max would have been a better choice for me since I hunt for coins first, any relics is a plus. What you said about deep rusty nails is exactly what I thought, they sound like a coin. Great video and yes, I picked up some good pointers! Thanks, Rick
I gotta tell ya brother, you just answered so many questions I had with this video. I run the stock 8.5x11 stock coil on the AT Pro. I'll get the bigger one some day, I just have to convince the wife :-), but I want to thank you for this video, very, very helpful in the different tones I've been hearing based on depth and passing it off as being iron. From now on I'll listen for the pop I've passed over so many times. Thanks again. hh
+MrBryanBarry My pleasure Bryan. So many people listen for perfect signals and VDI's. Number one rule for me is if it's deep dig it. Most of our deep signals sound terrible until we pop a plug, get some of the dirt away, and they clean up. Best of luck
I also run the NEL Storm on my AT Pro. I was just watching Zach Byrds video and he mentioned your demo here and provided a link to it. Glad I came over and gave it a re-watch, some important reminders in here. Thanks! 👍
Congrats Kurt, sweet find. Synchronicity with your wife's name and year of your birth, vert cool. 🤗 Gotta love those shiny tokens. Btw thanks for illustrating the Nel coil, awesome review!
Dirt Hawk Thanks for watching. I'm so happy I finally completed something I said I was going to do. It's so hard taking time away from actually detecting to do a review.
Tarheel Diggin' Thank you Matt! I couldn't of asked for a more phenomenal find to show itself during a review video. I'm still blow away from the Love Token. So amazing. Thank you for watching! Good Luck to you
Hi Kurt my name is Jonathan Lowery I'm from Rome Georgia and I love watching your videos you guys got me into metal detecting and keep up the good work
yea my storm just arrived yesterday only got to run it for a few minutes yesterday but liked it seemed to false less and less emf disturbance. just need to get used to swinging that bad boy. I got an at gold will do a review in the test garden I planted last year when I have time
Awesome video Kurt! I don't use the at pro but that was still a good comparison video to watch! Nice and informative. Wow, that love token is gorgeous! Love the Indians and old nickels! Way to go man!
I ordered the Thunder yesterday for my Fisher F44. I hope to see better results from the NEL. I went to a civil war battlefield with bullets about 10" deep. A buddy of mine was swinging the At Pro and he found 8 bullets compared to my 1 bullet. May have to end up springing for the At Pro but hoping this coil helps! Thanks for your videos!
I don't have the Tornado but know many people that do. It's a great coil. A little more sensitive to smaller targets that the Storm. The storm will be slightly deeper. Can't go wrong with either coil. The Tornado is only an inch smaller. It's lighter and cheaper too. If a great coil
Awesome find with that love token Kurt. Never found one of those yet. Nice old injuns and really like the axes and heart item. Also, very informative coil comparison. Thanks for another great video. Silver King.
Thanks Kurt for that very informational video and congrats on the token. The flutter and pop information was very helpful, I'm going to have to work on field testing that. I think I'm sold on the NEL Storm. The though crossed my mind to get an ETrac to get deeper targets but I think I'm going to try to NEL with my AT Pro first and see how it works. HH -Greg
Hillbilly fromWV My pleasure Greg. I'm sure the Etac is a great machine, but I would never trade in my Pro for it. I have no reason to "upgrade" anytime soon. Good Luck Brother!
Thank you for sharing that information on the At pro Garrett metal detecting I just purchased that and I want to find out more information about the good information thanks
I just ordered myself a Storm !!! Thought about getting one last year, I have a spot with fill dirt and the factory coil just can't find those Mercury's beyond 9".
Great video. I was contemplating getting the NEL Storm. After I saw you using it, I pulled the trigger and bought the coil. I'm glad I made that decision, the coil is fantastic. Wow on the love token. Great info and an incredible find. Congrats.
Thanks Kurt i have been wanting to see some info on the Storm. Very well done on the air versus ground testing and topping it off with info on the halo effect. Would like to know what ear buds your using. Love my Deep Woods but this humidity is cooking my ears off. Congrats on the Love Token ! The name on it making even more of a awesome of a bucket list find . Thanks for sharing and putting all the work into making some Kick Ass Vids. GL & HH
Russell Frank I can't do the big phones in the heat. Headband and earbuds are the way to go. I bought an out dated pair of Philips Earbuds on eBay. Paid $20. Love the sound quality. Just make sure you get the sport model. The need to be sweat proof. Thanks for watching Russell. Good luck brother
Could you please do a soil test of this setup VS the new AT Max. Im on the fence vs the Max and a lot of Max owners are saying it will go deeper then an AT Pro with an aftermarket coil. Ive been swinging the Storm on my Pro and I find that very hard to believe. Running in all metal mode it goes deeeeeepppp. I would be disappointed if I bought the Max and did not gain any depth. Thanks again for all the great videos.
The Max is a deeper machine. The Pro/storm combo is amazing. I used it for many years. I wouldn’t be swinging the Max if I had any doubt about it. Will the Max make you a better detectorist? No. That’s up to you. HH
Excellent video, Kurt! Thanks so much for all of the valuable info. I've learned alot about depth, flutter & pop from you and realized that I've probably been passing up some good targets that I thought were iron with my AT Pro... glad you told me to dig anything that's deep, especially those deep "iron" tones that pop. I'm pretty much sold on either a NEL Storm or Tornado now and can't wait to get one. Question for you -- using the NEL Storm, do you hunt with Iron Audio on all the time, or only when you get to an interesting/deep target? Thanks & HH!
Thanks, Kurt. Gotcha - I've been running wide open on Pro Zero mode with iron discrimination up at about 20-25, but I'm going to take your advice and go with 0 iron discrimination unless I get to areas where it's really infested with iron trash. I don't want to take the chance of missing good deep stuff that might be non ferrous but still sounding off as iron, or interesting deep iron. Can't wait to get a Storm or Tornado coil for my AT Pro. I'm trying to hit some home/farm sites showing up on 1851 map that are now out in the woods, and one of them in particular has produced good finds so far after only spending a couple of hours there (Flying Eagle cent, 1870's British Mappin & Webb hallmarked silver pen knife, etc.).
Nice Video, Kurt! I used to have an AT Gold with the Tornado set up. It was a sweet set up. I also used an AT Pro. Once you learn it you can find very deep stuff. The problem is I don't like how the signals get weaker on the depth. I wish Garrett would find a way to amplify its audio on deep targets. It's very hard to teach/learn how it sounds when the faint whisper comes through. TIt's very easy to skip over targets that sound like falsing. I dug countless holes where there was nothing at the bottom. Usually a nail off to the side. Pinpointing would actually lock on to the falsing. Awesome tool for when you know "We'll dig everything". Obviously great history there. That gothic pendant is badass. Same goes to the love token, Probably means more to you than anyone else who could have found it, Congrats. A special site, with passionate people detecting it. Well Done!
unlucky lester Whoa! Awesome comment! That place gives up side wall iron nails all day. Good targets are always dead nuts in the middle of the hole. You need a nice slow/medium swing to find those deep coins. There's a thin line between deep coin and deep iron sound with every detector. That's why I didn't it all. I know I'm going to find trash when I hunt. I don't mind digging 100 nails because I know at least one of them isn't going to be a nail. Glad it was of some help. Good luck Brother
I'm considering buying the coil they call big, by nel. getting it for my ace 400. I will have to use a oak dowel rod for my stem. thanks for showing me what a new coil can do.
Have you tried the Big Nel coil yet? And when you say you now use the tornado coil, is this pretty much the same in your mind as the bigger storm? what makes you prefer the tornado? Thabks!@@thehooverboys
Im definitely getting one of those. sounds so much cleaner. but, my stock coil I do the same I don't look at the vdi I look at the depth also. I've watched this b4 I had my detector now I think is the time to get it.
Hey Guys, I have to say the thing that gets me excited about all these finds, even the trash, is 1, how did it get there and 2, when did it get there. It amazes me how deep the coins and relic's are under ground. Kurt, Do you ever dig in to the history of these areas and try to find out what happened st these sites you are at? Would be really cool to know this. The history of all this is so interesting.
Thanks Marty. Absolutely. We usually do the research before we dig a site. That’s how we know where to go. The mystery of the game is how did it get lost. Gets you thinking...
Kurt how does soil mineralization effect the NEL? I live in the south and in my area the soil is low to medium mineralization or little iron in my area. That should work well for the NEL I would think and it looks like the average extra depth is 21/2 to 3 " deeper. You did a great job comparing the two. I've got the 5 X 8 and the stock coil for my PRO. It seems the stock is deeper but for me it is harder to pinpoint. That makes a difference in somebody's yard. My question is, how much deeper on average do you think the 5 X 8 is over the stock coil? In my soil I can't tell much difference. Thanks
+F75digger I don't have the 5x8 to compare them. It's hard to say. I only use my small coil in iron or high trash. This differs from site to site. I think it's important to have a coil for every situation. In yard the 5x8 or Stock are all you need
Kurt first off I want to thank you for all the awesome stuff you post! I have been using the AT Pro for little over a year now and I have just picked up the Nel Storm coil to add to my arsenal. The pop flutter you are talking about on super deep coins has peek my interest because I am trying to learn exactly what to listen for on deep coins. Are you going to post anymore videos letting us hear more of what you are talking about? Thanks again.
That flutter means you got some butter! Nice coil comparison, and cool vid. Looks like you spent some time out there, along with the heat, rogue bee, and a shaggy field. Speaking of. The field looks like your face. Where's the Stache?
Trooper Bri It's so true. I'm glad I was able to capture the flutter on video. I tell people all the time. Now I have a reference. The Stache fell off. I took off work. So I can grow a beard if I want. And we'll. I want. Thanks for watching. I know this has nothing to do with your gear.
Great test, great hunt. Grats on the token thats frickin awesome! When the vid started I was thinking..man I need that t-shirt. But looks like the ebil ones were not affected by the mojo so...nevermind!
Great video Kurt. I just picked up the Nel storm coil for my Atpro. Where is the pinpoint hot spot on the Nel storm coil? Is it directly in the center of the coil or one of the square cut outs on the coil like it is on the stock 8 1/2 x 11 coil.
New England Metal Detectors Thank you! For me it's dead nuts in the middle. The bolt is is the middle on the Storm. The stock coil the bolt is below the middle of the coil. If I'm on a good target the pinpoint is dead on. It takes some getting used to. I've used this coil for a while now
Thanks Kurt. Can't wait to try out the coil. I have used both the stock 8 1/2 x 11 coil and the 5 x 8 coil. Pretty excited to try the new Nel storm coil out in some big areas like old farms and fields and may even give it a shot on some of the saltwater beaches. Thanks again for the video and info.
Hey my friend I have been watching for years thank you for all the fantastic videos I just bought the 15×17 nel have you used and can you give me any tips
Great video man.... all your videos are great. I'm getting ready to upgrade the coil on my at pro.. this storm coil was my first choice but after looking the thunder coil hold up in stats against the storm and is lighter... have you ever used the thunder? If so does it stand up to the storm? Will it interchange from the pro to the max?
The Thunder is definitely lighter. Both deep. Can go wrong with either. This was before the Thunder came out. The coils are frequency sensitive. Shouldn’t be interchanged
What would you say is the best ATP NEL coil for a combination of good separation and depth? I dig some trashy ferrous areas and have found nonferrous targets mixed in as deep as 10 inches at least. I've probably missed so many targets though attempting to separate the trash from the good signals.
I have the same storm coil for my AT Pro.Seems like you get a bit more depth than me.On an air test I get about 9.0 on a merc and yours at 11 on the storm.In the ground I have found a merc at 7.5 and a wheat at 8.0, but it was very hard to pinpoint.On the stock coil you get about an inch more.I'm just wondering if it's the soil in my area.My average GB is 85 and sometime I lower it for added depth.Thanks for the video.Some good tips.
Dave Guna That's strange. I run my machine wide open. Pro zero, nothing notched out, 00 iron. This is my everyday setup. I'll sometimes lower my GB by 5-7 numbers. I didn't for the test this day
The Hoover Boys I have read on older AT Pro models that they have 1-2 more inches of depth than mine that was made in 2014.For some reason the owners sent their AT Pros to Garrett to get a upgrade or any other fix and was sent back to the owner with less depth.That's not mine, but interesting that there possibly might be depth issues with other detectors out there.I do run mine the same as you and it just seems i'm just missing something.I found a merc. in a park down 6.5 inches and had to really fight for it , no vdi.Must be this Indiana soil. Thanks.
Great review! I have an AT pro being delivered today. I'm going to get one of the NEL coils for it. I just can't decide between the tornado or the storm. Do you think there is much depth loss between 12 X 13 vs 13 x14. Thanks!
+Goon Dock I doubt there's much difference. I was between the Attack and the Tornado. So i went with the Storm. Couldn't be happier. Cant go wrong with either coil. Both an awesome upgrade from stock. Best of luck with your decision
+Porky Pedro Most of the big suppliers online sell them. Good luck finding them in stock though. I got mine on eBay a few years ago before it was popular
Wondered how old you were. Knew a girl from Springfield once who had a child who was born in December? 1982. Always wondered what he looked like and what became of he and his Mom. Could never find them over the years. Hope he turned out as well as you seem to have. Enjoy the videos. See ya on the next one.
Thank you for taking the time to respond. So enjoy your episodes. Have gotten a Garrett Pro last Sunday so after this next NorEaster am hoping to get out with my sister who just got one as well and do some hunting. Best wishes to you and crew and see you on your next episode.
Great review Kurt. Lots of great information for a guy like me with an AT Pro who's considering a Massive coil like the NEL Storm coil. By the way... Does John McEnroe know you're wearing his headband? ttyl -Drew
Supradrew Thank you! I do very well with this coil. Different strokes for different folks. Hahaha! Love the sweat band. So much cooler than the hat. I sweat like a pig!
Thanks Kurt, I appreciated you taking the time to do this, what I think is, good test. I was swinging a place (Southern PA) where the goods seemed to be just on the edge of my AT Pro stock coil's reach. After watching your tests I order the NEL coil and indeed this coil's deeper reach was exactly what i needed. Thanks again for all your instructional tidbits.
Scott Gantz You're welcome Scott. Glad you found it helpful. They're amazing coils. I wouldn't dig half of the stuff I do without it. Best of luck with it
I've been watching the hoover boys channel for going on 6 years now and it has helped me out tremendously with my detecting and getting to know my machine. I've been running this set up for a few days after running the stock coil for a year but today I really put it to the test. I've been running on pro/custom mode, full sensitivity. Ive been pinpointing by working the coil up to the target in 2 directions.. My buddy runs the xp deus and absolutely smoked me in coins which is a bit discouraging, however I absolutely killed it on iron rings and a giant axe head hahah. All hit in the mid/high 80s. got some memorials that sounded nice.. Hopefully I'm not doing something wrong. I'll press on with it and try to learn more and find more. Thank you and the guys for the years of awesome footage and spreading the joy and love of history.
Thank you for the support! Swing low and slow. It's not a race. I find more when I slow down. Listen for the small faint signals. Good luck!
Probably the best review I have ever seen, very educational! Loved that 1882 Katie charm, awesome!
Thanks Brother!
"Practice, and when all else fails, dig it all...". Great advice.
That NEL is the Andre the Giant of coils. There's not a guy I know that wouldn't want to have an extra 3"! Lol. Very cool brother.
Quarter Hoarder Blahahaha! For the right price I'm sure you could by that too! They make a coil much much bigger. The Storm isn't so bad
Fantastic info - thanks for the great vid. Gonna give the Storm a try. Most importantly, your love token is a PHENOMENAL find - a bucket list item for me as well, and I can't tell you how happy it made me to hear your excitement - I have seen too many people online complain that they found a defaced coin which is like a gut-punch... Seemingly not realizing that it doesn't get any more special than something that meant so much to someone... The fact that it matched your wife's name is icing on the cake. I sought out two seated love tokens with my girlfriend's initials on one and first name on the other, and she wears them every day. Loved seeing you flip that date side - it was an amazing reveal. Top notch. Cheers, man....
+BB_in_ Maine Thank you for the Kind words. I love holed coins, stamped, rolled, and carved. Gives them more character. But a love token? Wow it's something special. One of my favorite finds. Most of the guys that worry too much about condition sell their finds. Not that they're anything wrong with that just not my style. Best of luck to you
I used to use an old Harbor Freight detector to look for buried Benchmarks, but after watching this video, I'm definitely saving up my $$$ to get the Garrett AT Pro with the NEL Storm (13"x14") coil. Thanks Kurt for the video.
Awesome test review Kurt on the NEL coil, Thanks for all the great tips! HH! P@
PAT71463RICK No problem Pat! Glad you could take something from it. Good luck
Fantastic love token Kurt!!! Been watching your video's now for the last couple weeks, needed some type of enthusiasm to get out & hunt again, and your're sure helping me tons. Last time i was out was in the early 80's. Looking at maybe the AT Pro or At Gold. Thanks for the memories your bringing back to me! Really missed the hunting....
That's great to hear! I love that token. Both great machines. I use and love them both. All the best
I am waaaay late to comment, but this is one of the best and most helpful videos for my AT Max. Thank you!
My pleasure!
Thanx, Kurt! Luv this video. I've only been detecting for 2 years now (recently retired) and have learned a great deal from you and the Hoover Boys thanks to your RUclips videos. Santa brought me a Nel Storm coil for my AT Pro a few weeks ago and I'm waiting for the snow to go away (here in Utah) so I can get outdoors again. I go nuts waiting for the ground to thaw....Oh, I also got a Foo-Foo juice spray bottle from you guys just 'cause I'm a big fan of yours. Keep the good videos coming. I'm a subscriber and appreciate the professional job you do on camera.
Thank you so much for the support. The Storm can be scary at first. Believe in it. If it feels heavy. Shorten the shaft and take the coil cover off. Sweep it don't swing it. Best of luck
So I'm watching this video about listening closely to what the machine is telling you so I grab up my AT PRO and head back out into the yard.I did a factory reset pro zero max sen and started digging all of those weird sounds.
After about an hour of digging iffy signals out pops a 14k gold women's wedding band.Thank you hover boys for the tips!!!!
Papa John That is 100% awesome!! So happy to help anyway I can. Congrats on the new found Gold!
The Hoover Boys when you showed how targets sounded like iron with the stock coil.A light went off and I said I'm stepping over the good stuff.
Deep targets give funny signals. I've learned if its deep. Dig It!
Your review is what prompted me to pick up the Storm...then I ended up with a XP Deus...but now my buddy loves my AT Pro/Storm.
I still love my Pro/Storm. The Deus has been a great companion
Great job reviewing Kurt. From air test comparisons to live digs...excellent review. Those NEL coils kick you know what! I gotta get me one for my At Pro!
Jps3bs Thanks! Glad I was of some help. I love this coil. I think everyone can see why now.
Thank you for taking the time to make the videos. They have taught me a lot. You are appreciated.
My pleasure. Best of luck out there
Excellent vid!! I realize it may be a stretch, but how would you compare this NEL Storm to Garretts' AT Viper coil?
Exactly the type of comparison video I've been searching for, GREAT job - you nailed it
Thanks Kurt
Shawn Burke Awesome Shawn! Glad I was of some help
***** Thank you
Awful nice of Brad to get all those nails out of the way for you! (Nice IH Brad). Information was priceless; thanks for taking the time to do that Kurt. The Love Token is one of the most amazing finds I've seen - Congrats, congrats!
Louisiana Jones Hahaha! We all dig a ton of nails there. Brads Fisher absolutely loves them!! The more nails we dig the more that's uncovered. It's a crazy process. Glad you got something out of the video. I absolutely LOVE that token!
Nice test. A friend just got this machine and I told him to get this coil. One test you didn’t show in the air or ground was how the signal is effected when the coin is at differ angles like 45° or 90° vs flat as you showed. That gets best signal but show how the signal changes when coin angle changes. Nice test I sent this video to him to watch so he will upgrade.
Great info. Thanks!
Well K.K I finally got the Storm coil. I've searched the Web for anything I could find to help me learn this coil. I've been out with it 2 days and it's driving me crazy it doesn't pin point as well as the stock coil and I end up with a 3ft×1ft. hole WTF I guess it takes time to figure it out. But I'm have trouble with where the actual spot is once you have it pin pointed. The coil is so huge is it at the center of the coil. I've even tried the back off method and the cross cross method. I just don't want to be 1hr looking for a pull tab. You know what I mean!Well out of all the videos out there yours was the best instructional out. Thanks for Sharing KURT. See these are the things that take time out of Kurtz life and that's what makes me a lover not a hater. Time is precious and he does it for us. SO stop the Hating.
+Baltimore bottledigger Thanks Paul. It takes time for sure. I need to do a tips and tricks video when I find the time. Don't rush it. Take your time. Measure twice cut once
Just watched your vid again as well as read all your comments! So helpful! I'm using the Storm on my ATPro. Thinking about the Thunder now. The Storm is rough on these little arms... and that's sweeping not swinging!
I loved the Storm. Never thought I would take it off. The Thunder is a dream compared weight wise
thanks for the vid. Very informative and makes me not only want to get a NEL coil for my AT Pro but also to "dig it all".
Hidden History with Funkman Digging It All is where it's at
Great video. Just starting out and picked up an AT Pro in excellent condition for cheap and snagged one of these coils on eBay for cheap too after an Amazon review for the coil pointed me to your channel. I do plan to go multi frequency at some but want to learn first on this setup. Excited to sweep my acre of land first and then hit some wagon trails I have access on the NY/VT border on 40 acres of private land.
Okay, I have a Storm 13" x 14" coil ordered for my AT Pro and you just confirmed that I won't be sorry. I have been digging about 8" max on coins and deeper on bigger stuff. I hope to get 2"-3" or more depth with this new coil. I watched another video you did comparing the Pro, Gold and Max which makes me think the Max would have been a better choice for me since I hunt for coins first, any relics is a plus. What you said about deep rusty nails is exactly what I thought, they sound like a coin. Great video and yes, I picked up some good pointers! Thanks, Rick
The storm is a great coil on the Pro. I’m getting the Tornado for the Max. HH
I gotta tell ya brother, you just answered so many questions I had with this video. I run the stock 8.5x11 stock coil on the AT Pro. I'll get the bigger one some day, I just have to convince the wife :-), but I want to thank you for this video, very, very helpful in the different tones I've been hearing based on depth and passing it off as being iron. From now on I'll listen for the pop I've passed over so many times. Thanks again. hh
+MrBryanBarry My pleasure Bryan. So many people listen for perfect signals and VDI's. Number one rule for me is if it's deep dig it. Most of our deep signals sound terrible until we pop a plug, get some of the dirt away, and they clean up. Best of luck
I also run the NEL Storm on my AT Pro. I was just watching Zach Byrds video and he mentioned your demo here and provided a link to it. Glad I came over and gave it a re-watch, some important reminders in here. Thanks! 👍
Thank you. I love Zach. Such a great guy. Best of luck
I bought the storm years ago because of this video! Still runs great!
Thanks for sharing Kurt, already had it in my mind to buy that coil, but you just confirmed it for me. That axe brooch is cool!
***** Thankd for watching. I love this setup. Works great for me. That axe brooch is very cool. Thank you
Congrats Kurt, sweet find. Synchronicity with your wife's name and year of your birth, vert cool. 🤗 Gotta love those shiny tokens. Btw thanks for illustrating the Nel coil, awesome review!
Thanks Len
Thanks for the review Kurt, I have the AT-PRO, and now I have some food for thought !
Dirt Hawk Thanks for watching. I'm so happy I finally completed something I said I was going to do. It's so hard taking time away from actually detecting to do a review.
Nice job on the demo, Kurt. What a great hunt at the end of the video - that love token was amazing! Awesome find! HH
Tarheel Diggin' Thank you Matt! I couldn't of asked for a more phenomenal find to show itself during a review video. I'm still blow away from the Love Token. So amazing. Thank you for watching! Good Luck to you
Hi Kurt my name is Jonathan Lowery I'm from Rome Georgia and I love watching your videos you guys got me into metal detecting and keep up the good work
Love hearing that. Best of luck out there
Thanks for the advice! I've only been detecting for a little over a year now and I'm still learning. LFOD!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
yea my storm just arrived yesterday only got to run it for a few minutes yesterday but liked it seemed to false less and less emf disturbance. just need to get used to swinging that bad boy. I got an at gold will do a review in the test garden I planted last year when I have time
DDM Metal Detectives Awesome! Good luck with it!
Awesome video Kurt! I don't use the at pro but that was still a good comparison video to watch! Nice and informative. Wow, that love token is gorgeous! Love the Indians and old nickels! Way to go man!
Two Tone Joe Thankd for watching brother! I can't believe that Token popped up that day. It was the cherry on top. Good Luck Joe
Awesome review. This video was a main reason I bought the storm, Can't wait to test it out
+Chris The Clad King Agar Thank you Chris! It's been an amazing coil for me. Good luck with it
I ordered the Thunder yesterday for my Fisher F44. I hope to see better results from the NEL. I went to a civil war battlefield with bullets about 10" deep. A buddy of mine was swinging the At Pro and he found 8 bullets compared to my 1 bullet. May have to end up springing for the At Pro but hoping this coil helps! Thanks for your videos!
The Thunder will definitely give you an added boost. Hope it gets you down to the bullets! Best of luck
Great video bro I just bought a nel storm for my fisher f44 this video helped me learn it a lil better ty.
I remember what l once heard: "lf in doubt, dig it out."
Love the T-shirt btw.
Absolutely! Thanks
I would love to see a test / review on the NEL Tornado coil .. Great video Mr.Kurt !!👍
I don't have the Tornado but know many people that do. It's a great coil. A little more sensitive to smaller targets that the Storm. The storm will be slightly deeper. Can't go wrong with either coil. The Tornado is only an inch smaller. It's lighter and cheaper too. If a great coil
Awesome vid. I just got my NEL Storm coil and can't wait to get some deep coins. Thanks for the tips.
+Axxwound Awesome! Best of luck with it!
Awesome find with that love token Kurt. Never found one of those yet. Nice old injuns and really like the axes and heart item. Also, very informative coil comparison. Thanks for another great video. Silver King.
+James Lee Much appreciated James! That Love token is one of my favorite digs this year
Great job Kurt!! You reminded me of Bjorn Borg with that sweet head band!!
Jim Jackson Hahahaha! I get so many comments on the head band. So funny!
great video for a new detectorist was able to hear tone changes at depth binge watching your videos
Thank you! My pleasure
Thanks Kurt for that very informational video and congrats on the token. The flutter and pop information was very helpful, I'm going to have to work on field testing that. I think I'm sold on the NEL Storm. The though crossed my mind to get an ETrac to get deeper targets but I think I'm going to try to NEL with my AT Pro first and see how it works. HH -Greg
Hillbilly fromWV My pleasure Greg. I'm sure the Etac is a great machine, but I would never trade in my Pro for it. I have no reason to "upgrade" anytime soon. Good Luck Brother!
Thank you for sharing that information on the At pro Garrett metal detecting I just purchased that and I want to find out more information about the good information thanks
My pleasure. All the best with it
Awesome love token Kurt!! And great review on that Nel coil that you've been killing it with!!
tommy decker Thank you Tommy! I love that token!
Great video, what a difference on the stock and the larger NEL, can wait to get my MAX and a large coil
Thank you for the support! I need a Max to call my own
Thanks! You have a great channel. I've been watching your videos for awhile now. Finally subscribed. Keep up the great work!
+Goon Dock Much appreciated. Thank you. Will do
Love the no pull tab t-shirt! !Love it!
Hahaha! Thanks
Great review! Just won a storm coil in a raffle for my AT Pro.. I'm really looking forward to giving it a whirl this Spring
GL and HH
Van Jr.
+Lost and Found Metal Detecting Awesome Van! I wouldn't find 80% of what I do without it. We have some crazy deep sites. Best of luck
I just ordered myself a Storm !!! Thought about getting one last year, I have a spot with fill dirt and the factory coil just can't find those Mercury's beyond 9".
moiaredhawk Its a fantastic setup! Good Luck with it! Remember to reset your machine whenever changing coils
awesome! I'm undecided if I should get this coil for my at pro. I do however miss my cz 3d 1021 fisher!
+cycloneCJ I love this setup. I hear great things about the Tornado coil as well
My neighbor friend has this beast...I tried it...now my right arm looks like Popeye! Definitely need a harness.......?
Good video. I've got the Tornado and you showed me I may be passing up some signals.
If it's deep it gets a pop. Best of luck out there
Thanks for all of the great info. I'm still saving to get an AT Pro but one day...
Congrats on the love token, that was a great find!
GL&HH,
Tim
Timely Digger My pleasure. Love that Token! Good Luck Tim
Great video. I was contemplating getting the NEL Storm. After I saw you using it, I pulled the trigger and bought the coil. I'm glad I made that decision, the coil is fantastic. Wow on the love token. Great info and an incredible find. Congrats.
W Wally Thanks for watching! I love this coil. Glad I was of some help. I absolutely LOVE that token! Good luck Brother
Thanks for that video. Hi from NYC!!
Hi! Thanks for the support Daniel
An excellent review and test Kurt-Fu! Great job.
Be well,
Al-Fu
Als AllMetalDetecting Thanks Al-Fu!
Thanks Kurt i have been wanting to see some info on the Storm. Very well done on the air versus ground testing and topping it off with info on the halo effect. Would like to know what ear buds your using. Love my Deep Woods but this humidity is cooking my ears off. Congrats on the Love Token ! The name on it making even more of a awesome of a bucket list find . Thanks for sharing and putting all the work into making some Kick Ass Vids. GL & HH
Russell Frank I can't do the big phones in the heat. Headband and earbuds are the way to go. I bought an out dated pair of Philips Earbuds on eBay. Paid $20. Love the sound quality. Just make sure you get the sport model. The need to be sweat proof. Thanks for watching Russell. Good luck brother
Could you please do a soil test of this setup VS the new AT Max. Im on the fence vs the Max and a lot of Max owners are saying it will go deeper then an AT Pro with an aftermarket coil. Ive been swinging the Storm on my Pro and I find that very hard to believe. Running in all metal mode it goes deeeeeepppp. I would be disappointed if I bought the Max and did not gain any depth. Thanks again for all the great videos.
The Max is a deeper machine. The Pro/storm combo is amazing. I used it for many years. I wouldn’t be swinging the Max if I had any doubt about it. Will the Max make you a better detectorist? No. That’s up to you. HH
Awesome find on that love token Kurt, nice job my friend!!!
Dig That Beep Thanks Man! Such a sweet find! So happy to have her!
Thanks for the test video! I'm looking at that NEL coil! Keep up the good work. Love the videos, Wednesday is a good day because of them!
My pleasure Rob. Sounds like operator error crusher
Excellent video, Kurt! Thanks so much for all of the valuable info. I've learned alot about depth, flutter & pop from you and realized that I've probably been passing up some good targets that I thought were iron with my AT Pro... glad you told me to dig anything that's deep, especially those deep "iron" tones that pop. I'm pretty much sold on either a NEL Storm or Tornado now and can't wait to get one. Question for you -- using the NEL Storm, do you hunt with Iron Audio on all the time, or only when you get to an interesting/deep target? Thanks & HH!
My pleasure. I don’t run iron discrimination. I ant to hear everything and discriminate with my ears
Thanks, Kurt. Gotcha - I've been running wide open on Pro Zero mode with iron discrimination up at about 20-25, but I'm going to take your advice and go with 0 iron discrimination unless I get to areas where it's really infested with iron trash. I don't want to take the chance of missing good deep stuff that might be non ferrous but still sounding off as iron, or interesting deep iron.
Can't wait to get a Storm or Tornado coil for my AT Pro. I'm trying to hit some home/farm sites showing up on 1851 map that are now out in the woods, and one of them in particular has produced good finds so far after only spending a couple of hours there (Flying Eagle cent, 1870's British Mappin & Webb hallmarked silver pen knife, etc.).
Nice Video, Kurt! I used to have an AT Gold with the Tornado set up. It was a sweet set up. I also used an AT Pro. Once you learn it you can find very deep stuff. The problem is I don't like how the signals get weaker on the depth. I wish Garrett would find a way to amplify its audio on deep targets. It's very hard to teach/learn how it sounds when the faint whisper comes through. TIt's very easy to skip over targets that sound like falsing. I dug countless holes where there was nothing at the bottom. Usually a nail off to the side. Pinpointing would actually lock on to the falsing. Awesome tool for when you know "We'll dig everything". Obviously great history there. That gothic pendant is badass. Same goes to the love token, Probably means more to you than anyone else who could have found it, Congrats. A special site, with passionate people detecting it. Well Done!
unlucky lester Whoa! Awesome comment! That place gives up side wall iron nails all day. Good targets are always dead nuts in the middle of the hole. You need a nice slow/medium swing to find those deep coins. There's a thin line between deep coin and deep iron sound with every detector. That's why I didn't it all. I know I'm going to find trash when I hunt. I don't mind digging 100 nails because I know at least one of them isn't going to be a nail. Glad it was of some help. Good luck Brother
nel storm and attack best coils for at pro, great depth.
Владислав Яремчук Totally agree!
I'm considering buying the coil they call big, by nel. getting it for my ace 400. I will have to use a oak dowel rod for my stem. thanks for showing me what a new coil can do.
The BIG is too big in my opinion. The Tornado or Storm is all you need. Good luck with it though
I will take it under advisement.
How did the Big coil go? I am looking what coil to purchase!
Where do you suggest getting this coil from?? you have me hooked!! By the way, LOVE YOUR CHANNEL and your videos ROCK!!
robert bennett Thanks Robert! I got mine on eBay. I think Coloinal Detectors in New England keep them in stock. Don't quote me. Just what I've heard.
Is it hard to use because of the weight?
It gets heavy yes. I use the Tornado as my large coil now. Not as heavy. Still deep
Have you tried the Big Nel coil yet?
And when you say you now use the tornado coil, is this pretty much the same in your mind as the bigger storm? what makes you prefer the tornado?
Thabks!@@thehooverboys
So basically that coil on your AT MAX is simply a BEAST! 😃
Im definitely getting one of those. sounds so much cleaner. but, my stock coil I do the same I don't look at the vdi I look at the depth also. I've watched this b4 I had my detector now I think is the time to get it.
+Baltimore bottledigger Thanks Paul! Best of luck with it
Hey Guys, I have to say the thing that gets me excited about all these finds, even the trash, is 1, how did it get there and 2, when did it get there. It amazes me how deep the coins and relic's are under ground. Kurt, Do you ever dig in to the history of these areas and try to find out what happened st these sites you are at? Would be really cool to know this. The history of all this is so interesting.
Thanks Marty. Absolutely. We usually do the research before we dig a site. That’s how we know where to go. The mystery of the game is how did it get lost. Gets you thinking...
Maybe I should pick this coil, I haven't been able to find $hit with my stick coil. Thanks for the info!
+Ktmoney123 I wouldn't find 80% of what I do with my stock coil. I love this coil. Best of luck
Kurt how does soil mineralization effect the NEL? I live in the south and in my area the soil is low to medium mineralization or little iron in my area. That should work well for the NEL I would think and it looks like the average extra depth is 21/2 to 3 " deeper. You did a great job comparing the two. I've got the 5 X 8 and the stock coil for my PRO. It seems the stock is deeper but for me it is harder to pinpoint. That makes a difference in somebody's yard. My question is, how much deeper on average do you think the 5 X 8 is over the stock coil? In my soil I can't tell much difference. Thanks
+F75digger I don't have the 5x8 to compare them. It's hard to say. I only use my small coil in iron or high trash. This differs from site to site. I think it's important to have a coil for every situation. In yard the 5x8 or Stock are all you need
Thanks for the come back.
+F75digger anytime
Kurt first off I want to thank you for all the awesome stuff you post! I have been using the AT Pro for little over a year now and I have just picked up the Nel Storm coil to add to my arsenal. The pop flutter you are talking about on super deep coins has peek my interest because I am trying to learn exactly what to listen for on deep coins. Are you going to post anymore videos letting us hear more of what you are talking about? Thanks again.
Thanks for the support. Morale of the story. If it's deep dig it. Deep target will bounce around and the machine will guess sometimes. Good luck
That flutter means you got some butter!
Nice coil comparison, and cool vid. Looks like you spent some time out there, along with the heat, rogue bee, and a shaggy field.
Speaking of. The field looks like your face. Where's the Stache?
Trooper Bri It's so true. I'm glad I was able to capture the flutter on video. I tell people all the time. Now I have a reference. The Stache fell off. I took off work. So I can grow a beard if I want. And we'll. I want. Thanks for watching. I know this has nothing to do with your gear.
Hoover your last name? Is your family from Kentucky or Tennessee?
Great Hunt Kurt!! That Seated Love Token is Incredible!!
Pennsylvania Treasures Thank you! I still haven't put it down. And it's been a week now. Love that token!
Great stuff man...i have the stock coil atm, will see if i can get the NEL. cheers.
+Zeds notdeadyet My pleasure. It's a killer coil. Good luck
Awesome test nel coil. Very deeper.
Thanks!
Great test, great hunt. Grats on the token thats frickin awesome! When the vid started I was thinking..man I need that t-shirt. But looks like the ebil ones were not affected by the mojo so...nevermind!
Troy Reed Hahaha! You can't away from the evil ones no matter what you do. Thank you for watching! good Luck Brother
Great video Kurt. I just picked up the Nel storm coil for my Atpro. Where is the pinpoint hot spot on the Nel storm coil?
Is it directly in the center of the coil or one of the square cut outs on the coil like it is on the stock 8 1/2 x 11 coil.
New England Metal Detectors Thank you! For me it's dead nuts in the middle. The bolt is is the middle on the Storm. The stock coil the bolt is below the middle of the coil. If I'm on a good target the pinpoint is dead on. It takes some getting used to. I've used this coil for a while now
Thanks Kurt. Can't wait to try out the coil. I have used both the stock 8 1/2 x 11 coil and the 5 x 8 coil. Pretty excited to try the new Nel storm coil out in some big areas like old farms and fields and may even give it a shot on some of the saltwater beaches. Thanks again for the video and info.
New England Metal Detectors My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.
Great comparison video very impressive nel coil.
david hopper Thank you for checking it out.
Hey my friend I have been watching for years thank you for all the fantastic videos I just bought the 15×17 nel have you used and can you give me any tips
What do you think about the bigger coils for the AT PRO like the 15x17.
+fathertimenc I've never used the BIG coil. I'm sure it's crazy deep. The weight would be quite a challenge but they make slings for that.
Congrats on the love token!!
jeromey wills Thank you! It's one of my favorite finds
Very helpful video. Thanks for doing this.
Hi, very informative video. Would the nel coil be better than the standard on dry sand at the beach?
My Storm coil reads very deep! The only problem I have is that it gets heavy on long hunts. No fun in deep mud!
Rest the coil on the ground and sweep it don’t swing it. That method doesn’t work well in the mid though. It’s great in the grass. HH
Great video, I will probably hook with one of those coils here in Japan...thanks
Great video man.... all your videos are great. I'm getting ready to upgrade the coil on my at pro.. this storm coil was my first choice but after looking the thunder coil hold up in stats against the storm and is lighter... have you ever used the thunder? If so does it stand up to the storm? Will it interchange from the pro to the max?
The Thunder is definitely lighter. Both deep. Can go wrong with either. This was before the Thunder came out. The coils are frequency sensitive. Shouldn’t be interchanged
@@thehooverboys I think I'll go with the thunder coil... hopefully itll get as deep as the storm or at least close... thanks for your input
Is the Thunder a Nel coil also?
Kurt, enjoyed the coil demonstration. Congratulations on the love token.
I have the Nel Tornado and its a killer coil.
What would you say is the best ATP NEL coil for a combination of good separation and depth? I dig some trashy ferrous areas and have found nonferrous targets mixed in as deep as 10 inches at least. I've probably missed so many targets though attempting to separate the trash from the good signals.
Your best bet would be the Tornado. Great coil
I have the same storm coil for my AT Pro.Seems like you get a bit more depth than me.On an air test I get about 9.0 on a merc and yours at 11 on the storm.In the ground I have found a merc at 7.5 and a wheat at 8.0, but it was very hard to pinpoint.On the stock coil you get about an inch more.I'm just wondering if it's the soil in my area.My average GB is 85 and sometime I lower it for added depth.Thanks for the video.Some good tips.
Dave Guna That's strange. I run my machine wide open. Pro zero, nothing notched out, 00 iron. This is my everyday setup. I'll sometimes lower my GB by 5-7 numbers. I didn't for the test this day
The Hoover Boys I have read on older AT Pro models that they have 1-2 more inches of depth than mine that was made in 2014.For some reason the owners sent their AT Pros to Garrett to get a upgrade or any other fix and was sent back to the owner with less depth.That's not mine, but interesting that there possibly might be depth issues with other detectors out there.I do run mine the same as you and it just seems i'm just missing something.I found a merc. in a park down 6.5 inches and had to really fight for it , no vdi.Must be this Indiana soil. Thanks.
Your should have no problem at 6.5 on a dime. maybe an iron halo was affecting the signal. Best of luck!
Great review! I have an AT pro being delivered today. I'm going to get one of the NEL coils for it. I just can't decide between the tornado or the storm. Do you think there is much depth loss between 12 X 13 vs 13 x14. Thanks!
+Goon Dock I doubt there's much difference. I was between the Attack and the Tornado. So i went with the Storm. Couldn't be happier. Cant go wrong with either coil. Both an awesome upgrade from stock. Best of luck with your decision
looking to get a storm for my ACE 400! Great video and thank you for the help!
Awesome! Good luck with it
Hi Kurt please would tell me pleases where to get a NEL Storm Coil?
+Porky Pedro Most of the big suppliers online sell them. Good luck finding them in stock though. I got mine on eBay a few years ago before it was popular
Wondered how old you were. Knew a girl from Springfield once who had a child who was born in December? 1982. Always wondered what he looked like and what became of he and his Mom. Could never find them over the years. Hope he turned out as well as you seem to have. Enjoy the videos. See ya on the next one.
Thank you for the support! I was born in February
Thank you for taking the time to respond. So enjoy your episodes. Have gotten a Garrett Pro last Sunday so after this next NorEaster am hoping to get out with my sister who just got one as well and do some hunting. Best wishes to you and crew and see you on your next episode.
Very very very good awesome review! Mind blown.. hair blown back..
Great review Kurt. Lots of great information for a guy like me with an AT Pro who's considering a Massive coil like the NEL Storm coil. By the way... Does John McEnroe know you're wearing his headband? ttyl -Drew
Supradrew Thank you! I do very well with this coil. Different strokes for different folks. Hahaha! Love the sweat band. So much cooler than the hat. I sweat like a pig!
The Hoover Boys Oh, I do too. Last time out I wore my Garrett ball cap and it was soaked when I checked it about an hour later. lol
Supradrew Yeah the Garrett hat keeps the heat in pretty good.