@@hodlbro3949 Obviously. But Valkoryon’s/ Vitiate’s entire motivation was to outgrow the Sith because he thought Sith ideology was too limiting. Had he been able to discard the sith’s refusal to love, care and nurture when needed, he would’ve truly outgrown the Sith and would’ve ruled for far longer.
@@Scriabin_fan casting off Sith teachings and traditions and completely abandoning the dark side are two completely different things. Vitiate was a dark side force user. His immortality didn't change that, nor did his possession of Valkorion.
ikr.. he could of had two bad ass sons ruling by his side and loyal to him but no he had pitted them against each other or atleast one of them by craving his fathers attention and him not reciprocating in the slightest which lead to that child hating him to the point of trying to kill him. What i don't get tho is why the other child would kill his own brother, his dare i say best friend and fellow soldier who he fought countless battles along side of. Not sure why he made that choice tbh but hey i didn't write it. Maybe there was some affection or something thrown his way idk.
Vitiate was truly the most evil sith lord in Star Wars. He showed no compassion towards his children while Thexan grew to hate Valkorion for his disapproval. Valkorion broke Vaylin through the measures of torture and scientific experiments and manipulated her into thinking that her mother is the blame for everything. Valkorion stole their childhood not only, he stole them from their mother
Nah F that they're as interesting as the Skywalkers, think about it a MF sith possessing many bodies & controlling the galaxy all while conquering more is insane and would make for a Great Movie!! Honestly think if they did make a movie or series about this timeline it would gain massive popularity & it would also confuse tf outta everyone like "why they tryna write stuff about legends & the old Republic?" But the real question is WHY TF NOT?!!?!?!?!???!!!!!
When I was running through the those expansions I was genuinely terrified of Vaylin. When Lana tried to force open a blast door she barely made it move, Vaylin blew the doors off the friggin hinges.
Still pissed we couldn't recruit her. We can recruit the evil tyrant who was fully in control of his actions, but his abused, indoctrinated, abandoned sister needs to die? What a freaking waste of a character.
I never knew that Vitiate feared his daughter, now I know where that phrase came from... When I watched the gameplay of the continuation of the KOTOR series, I had always wondered about it...
Stupendous Wave please make more videos on the eternal empire. Also for future videos maybe you could make some on the Yuuzahn Vong species, as well as the YV war. Thank you for keeping the Star Wars universe alive. 😇😇😇😇
Yes, twins please. It’s a shame that he decided to torture her instead of guiding her like her brothers. Could have made it a family affair to rule the galaxy with no challengers.
Valkorion appears more powerful than Sidious does in the films, yes. Valkorion is not more powerdul than Sidious is in the lore. Pretty simple to understand. Sidious>Tenebrae>Nihilus. Abilities are a whole another aspect to consider.
OK after the last video and this one I think I finally understand the Vitiate/Valkorion thing... long time coming though, that shit is confusing as hell🎉
I would like to submit to you a requested holocron, from the time of emporer vitiate. The events that transpired on Odacer-Faustin in 3645 bby, a volatile planet in the outer rim that gave birth to one of the most disturbed sith temples to have ever existed and the headmaster's in darth scaborous and the one who created the academy darth drear, whom made it such a wanted place for sith to train....but one that many that were not already at the stage of a dark side adept were truly terrified to study within. These masters held countless experiments on creatures from the planet, unleashing them on the apprentices as well as a very different method for true immortality.
When the Light realizes after constant molding manipulation of negative chaos We will take Vengence for sure!!! Do NPTMess with the True Chossen Ones!!!!!!!
11:29 may i remind yall that Thexann is the foo in black and Arcann is his two faced brother in the white that got half bis face blown off in a battle and blames everyone else instead of his shitty fighting style. Rip thexann💯 at least bro didn't have robotics lol
Video: *Is about Vaylin* Some people in the comments: “BUH BUH BUH DISNEY BAD!!!!” My god, the video and the character isn’t anything to do with Disney, just give it a rest 🤦♂️
@@coreywigent7693 nothing your saying is untrue. it’s just tiring hearing again and again and again how “Disney failed Star Wars!” It’s like, there’s plenty of EU content to enjoy. I go back to my old EU books all the time. There’s no reason why we can’t have both Disney canon AND EU. It’s like today’s generation so obsessed with “official canon.” George RR Martin has a great opinion on this obsession with breaking canon. He basically says it’s just a story at the end of the day. A fictional story. I LOVE Star Wars. But,in the grand scheme of things, the outrage at Disney is misplaced. It’s all “woke” this and “agendas” that. It’s just tiring is all. Sorry to get so triggered. I just wish people on the internet had an ounce of self awareness and the capacity for nuance but i guess that’s too much to ask.
You have to wonder if Ragnos foresaw the fall of kressh and sadow. He pretty much gave vitiate everything he needed to survive the war against the republic, not armies or super weapons, knowledge. It makes you think that maybe ragnos saw vitiate as his true successor.
Very close to the Mortis force weilders, however the father figure stands in balance other wise life as they know it would cease to exist, so power must be held in check no matter what, and unfortunately crazyness is inherently unstable such as a sith plague. Bane consolidated power but the instabilities linger, don't discount the force priestess of the Midichlorians
@@LarryOrtwineNah Anakin is the strongest aside from my character in swtor. Actually not really lol. The old Republic sith and Jedi are way stronger than even the Chosen One
The Sith emperor was a fool to lead all three of “blood” children like the way he did. He should have taken their train more personal yet humanely as possible. His daughter was the worse of the worse case one he refused handle with care
I love the lore of the Eternal Empire. I love anything Old Republic related, especially Revan and Meetra
do you play the game... plenty of little lore in that game its lots of fun
Anything not dysney
@@Rickybobby427xyz make opinions for yourself don’t just listen to people on the internet buddy
If Valkoryan treated his children with love their empire would’ve lasted for far longer. Pitting the twins against each other was his biggest mistake.
nurturing isnt really a sith thing is it?
@@hodlbro3949 Obviously. But Valkoryon’s/ Vitiate’s entire motivation was to outgrow the Sith because he thought Sith ideology was too limiting. Had he been able to discard the sith’s refusal to love, care and nurture when needed, he would’ve truly outgrown the Sith and would’ve ruled for far longer.
@@Scriabin_fanyeah in his latest vid He says that valkorions Manipulation of the twins Resulted in his and zakuuls downfall
@@Scriabin_fan casting off Sith teachings and traditions and completely abandoning the dark side are two completely different things. Vitiate was a dark side force user. His immortality didn't change that, nor did his possession of Valkorion.
ikr.. he could of had two bad ass sons ruling by his side and loyal to him but no he had pitted them against each other or atleast one of them by craving his fathers attention and him not reciprocating in the slightest which lead to that child hating him to the point of trying to kill him. What i don't get tho is why the other child would kill his own brother, his dare i say best friend and fellow soldier who he fought countless battles along side of. Not sure why he made that choice tbh but hey i didn't write it. Maybe there was some affection or something thrown his way idk.
Vitiate was truly the most evil sith lord in Star Wars. He showed no compassion towards his children while Thexan grew to hate Valkorion for his disapproval. Valkorion broke Vaylin through the measures of torture and scientific experiments and manipulated her into thinking that her mother is the blame for everything. Valkorion stole their childhood not only, he stole them from their mother
Such a tragic family.
Arcann, but yeah.
Arcann hated him, thexan didnt care❤
Arcann, Thexan & Vaylin are overdue
Nah F that they're as interesting as the Skywalkers, think about it a MF sith possessing many bodies & controlling the galaxy all while conquering more is insane and would make for a Great Movie!! Honestly think if they did make a movie or series about this timeline it would gain massive popularity & it would also confuse tf outta everyone like "why they tryna write stuff about legends & the old Republic?" But the real question is WHY TF NOT?!!?!?!?!???!!!!!
@@LiqaMaDiqq Everthing StarWars that Disney touches turns to ash...
This is tragic. She's tragic figure. Yes,she's similar to Anakin. Thanks for this. May the Force be with you too😊
the farce, not the force lol
@@robertenleed-q3r why the farce?
@@Gor85 Humour.....
@@robertenleed-q3r ok😂
Poor Vaylin, they locked her on Netheema and forced her to watch The Acolyte over and over again....
😂😂😂
At first I thought there was no excuse for how evil she was, but after hearing this I think I understand
Definitely like to see a video on the twin sons of Valcorian
I'm reminded of a quote from Master Qui-gon: " there's always a bigger fish!"
I love your videos and would love to see the whole story as well.
When I was running through the those expansions I was genuinely terrified of Vaylin.
When Lana tried to force open a blast door she barely made it move, Vaylin blew the doors off the friggin hinges.
would totally love to see a video about Arcann, Thexan & Vaylin
One hell of a dysfunctional family!
Would love to hear about the brothers too.
Still pissed we couldn't recruit her. We can recruit the evil tyrant who was fully in control of his actions, but his abused, indoctrinated, abandoned sister needs to die? What a freaking waste of a character.
We should've got more lore about Thexan ans Arcann's conquests.
Yeah we should
Vaylin truly did have the potential to become a force goddess. She was the daughter of the strongest Sith Lord of all time.
I wanna see the twins and their tales of conquering the galaxy!!!
From the Acolyte?
@@chiquita683HAHAHAHA
@@chiquita683nah
Then play the eternal empire expansion from swtor mmo
@@chiquita683lol.
I would like to see the twins' story please, also this holocron was absolutely stunning, thanks Stupendous.
I never knew that Vitiate feared his daughter, now I know where that phrase came from... When I watched the gameplay of the continuation of the KOTOR series, I had always wondered about it...
Stupendous Wave please make more videos on the eternal empire. Also for future videos maybe you could make some on the Yuuzahn Vong species, as well as the YV war. Thank you for keeping the Star Wars universe alive. 😇😇😇😇
This was excellent!!! The Eternal Family/Empire is so interesting. Bring on the twins!!!
A video about the twins sounds interesting. Yes please!!
Yes, twins please. It’s a shame that he decided to torture her instead of guiding her like her brothers. Could have made it a family affair to rule the galaxy with no challengers.
Yeah and He should have Treated his sons better. Pitting them against each other Was what ended his empire and eventually resulted in his demise
Would have been interesting if she had Turned to the light side. Or better yet be come a Grey Jedi. And Payed Daddy back for all his misdeeds.
She is like a female Anakin Skywalker . When it comes to raw power in the force
and anakin solo
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 she is stronger then Anakin solo
Very much hoping that KOTOR gets that remaster. It would look so so good. Imagine a Star Wars game made by From Software. Would be crazy
A família eterna é um dos Arcos do legends mais fodas de star wars m
YES GIVE US THE NEXT!
I always wanted more lore on children of sith and jedi considering neither really believed in attachment in this way
Bring on the twins lets have a video on their conquests.
I need to get back into that game and finish that storyline. Also my main character was a Sith Pureblood.
Would love to hear more about the twins and the entire family
Arcaan & thexan video 👍
For the Brother's War!!!
I didn't know Darth Jar Jar had a daughter
He created Rey from the force
@@chiquita683i think daisy ridley should just stick with filming herself getting railed.. shes got the looks for it
@@chiquita683 Meesa Rey Binks. Yousa in bad doodoo
quit trying to make Darth Jar Jar happen... LOL
This girl could potentially kill both Starkiller and Palpatine all by herself if she was this powerful to make her own father worry
Nah papaltine reborn was more powerful
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 please tell me you mean the one in Legends and not the one from the rise of Skywalker
Your insane starkiller & sidious are just as powerful as Valen father was . So I disagree
@@princeofpokemon2934both versions of Palpatine in both Legends and in the rise of Skywalker are all powerful
@@princeofpokemon2934 papaltine from DE is called papaltine reborn I don't consider Disney star wars true star wars
wanna talk about what should deserve a live action... but we get the acolyte. Maybe someday.
Valkorion appears more powerful than Sidious does in the films, yes. Valkorion is not more powerdul than Sidious is in the lore. Pretty simple to understand. Sidious>Tenebrae>Nihilus. Abilities are a whole another aspect to consider.
Damn I didn’t know that about Rey
Yes, Yes. Please show the tale of the twins.
OK after the last video and this one I think I finally understand the Vitiate/Valkorion thing... long time coming though, that shit is confusing as hell🎉
Those siblings need their own modern game with multiple planet fronts and familiar enemies
I would like to submit to you a requested holocron, from the time of emporer vitiate. The events that transpired on Odacer-Faustin in 3645 bby, a volatile planet in the outer rim that gave birth to one of the most disturbed sith temples to have ever existed and the headmaster's in darth scaborous and the one who created the academy darth drear, whom made it such a wanted place for sith to train....but one that many that were not already at the stage of a dark side adept were truly terrified to study within. These masters held countless experiments on creatures from the planet, unleashing them on the apprentices as well as a very different method for true immortality.
Been waiting for this….
This is what Star Wars should be putting out… and just make it CGI like this
PART 2 PLEASE
I wanna see ittttt
Very interesting video
I don’t think tenebrae fully inhabited valkorian until after the shadow of revan and the destruction of ziost
Don’t let Star Wars theory see this. He might start crying 😂
Everytime I see vailyn I think of the song Angel by X & shiloh 😂
MORE!!
The Zakuul arc was great, a shame they ended it in basically 1 scene, with the Gravestone and the Eternal Fleet taking each other out.
Do a video on the twins next bro pls ❤❤❤
Entil za Valen!
Please make a video on the twins.
When the Light realizes after constant molding manipulation of negative chaos We will take Vengence for sure!!! Do NPTMess with the True Chossen Ones!!!!!!!
If they want the female force they should go with this story. These short videos are awesome.
Definitely want to see the twins live action
Where do you images come from? Are these games?
Yes, they are from cutscenes in games.
Lol, i still like that you can flirt with Vaylin. She doesn't buy it. Like, at all. But, still. It's funny.
These are the framework for shows and movies I wanna see from Lucasfilm
11:29 may i remind yall that Thexann is the foo in black and Arcann is his two faced brother in the white that got half bis face blown off in a battle and blames everyone else instead of his shitty fighting style. Rip thexann💯 at least bro didn't have robotics lol
Video: *Is about Vaylin*
Some people in the comments: “BUH BUH BUH DISNEY BAD!!!!”
My god, the video and the character isn’t anything to do with Disney, just give it a rest 🤦♂️
Disney has all of this source material and does absolutely nothing with it.
“Source material?” It’s a random story from a MMO video game. I agree Disney sucks, but let’s not act like there are problems with a lot of the EU.
@jimmyramos1989 yes this random story is better than the bullshit bad fanfiction stories disney has been giving us.
@@coreywigent7693 sure kid. whatever you say.
@jimmyramos1989 what did I say that was wrong? What show that disney has shit out that was good?
@@coreywigent7693 nothing your saying is untrue. it’s just tiring hearing again and again and again how “Disney failed Star Wars!” It’s like, there’s plenty of EU content to enjoy. I go back to my old EU books all the time. There’s no reason why we can’t have both Disney canon AND EU. It’s like today’s generation so obsessed with “official canon.” George RR Martin has a great opinion on this obsession with breaking canon. He basically says it’s just a story at the end of the day. A fictional story. I LOVE Star Wars. But,in the grand scheme of things, the outrage at Disney is misplaced. It’s all “woke” this and “agendas” that. It’s just tiring is all. Sorry to get so triggered. I just wish people on the internet had an ounce of self awareness and the capacity for nuance but i guess that’s too much to ask.
Can I ask what these clips are from?
but but but what about the granddaughter of the Sith Lord who returned, somehow
Where do you get the video from?
Hopefully in vaylin's holocron there will be mention of how she didn't die and actually transferred her essence into one of satele's jedi.
Not technically confirmed but yeah I’d be pretty surprised if that’s not what happened
Its takes the power of the outlander and valkorion plus possibly arcann as well to defeat her
Do the twins!!!!
amazing that so many people have never played swtor
I want to see the eternal twins
nice
You have to wonder if Ragnos foresaw the fall of kressh and sadow. He pretty much gave vitiate everything he needed to survive the war against the republic, not armies or super weapons, knowledge. It makes you think that maybe ragnos saw vitiate as his true successor.
Video!! Videoooooo!!!!!!
Very close to the Mortis force weilders, however the father figure stands in balance other wise life as they know it would cease to exist, so power must be held in check no matter what, and unfortunately crazyness is inherently unstable such as a sith plague. Bane consolidated power but the instabilities linger, don't discount the force priestess of the Midichlorians
I’d watch a video about the twins.
i love this Story I Want to know how he met his wife
Which game is this
Hell yes
This is exactly what sidious is trying.
Interesting
Did Tenebres/valkoryan ever make a holocron? if so is it known what happend to it.
Sure make the video
Nuh-uh Rey is the mostest powerful evarr. She has something more powerful than the force.. disney writing and plot armor.
😂😂 I’m so happy someone said this!!
@@LarryOrtwineNah Anakin is the strongest aside from my character in swtor. Actually not really lol. The old Republic sith and Jedi are way stronger than even the Chosen One
Twin!!!!
Please do the twins
I’d kill for a series about Valkorion and his family
Disney will ruin it
I named my daughter after this character 😂
Day 568 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
please do
Screw Rey
The Sith emperor was a fool to lead all three of “blood” children like the way he did. He should have taken their train more personal yet humanely as possible. His daughter was the worse of the worse case one he refused handle with care
He treated them like he did as it was all a part of his calculated long term plan that he had been spinning for over a thousand years.
yeah he could have raised up a true empire with all 3 of them leading as generals of his army
@@Vakaria-playshe was looking for a body, too?
Yeah I’ll need a video on the twins
🎉❤
Did she kill her mother?
More
Darth Nox disagrees about who is most powerful
Rey
Arcann & Thexan vs Galen Marek battle of the baldies
Galen wins
I am so confused