I am a christian, but i have been following ogbomosho's issue. I love the roles our elders have played so far. God bless you all. God will help you to resolve the crisis and return peace to Ogbomosh.o
I love the first man that address Imam Ogbomosho, he said exactly what is in mind. The fire of this issue ought to have died long ago if Imam had been patient, calm and more respectful. "W'Allahi iwa omo kekere patapata ni Imam ti bo o". Paying too much attention to what he ought to have ignored. Meanwhile, i am of the opinion that Yoruba Land should stop the habit and culture of picking Imam from few selected houses instead of picking their Imam from the most knowledgeable from the city/town. It's crude, uncivilized, and the act when keenly looked at is against the tradition of the Prophet (SAW)..
May Almighty Allah prevail on all concerned. The most crucial intervention is for the Imam to respect the Shoun as paramount. The Imam should also withdraw the court case. Genuine apology should be tendered to the King. The King should then prevail on all concerned to forgive and endorse the Imam by the grace of Almighty Allah. The agrieved members of Ayilara family should be compensated to "safe their face" by both the Imam and the King. God bless.
He is excessively arrogant, no reasonable person can allow this kind of irritating personality be closed to authority, he is juvenile and immerture, very rude and always misbehaving
I am always happy when you meet pure religious people that can stand and say things as they are, Yoruba land can never fight over religion issues, thank you all
He has apologized and has accepted the superior roles of the King. The young Imam is an achiever, and the family should embrace their son ,they should forget the controversy, we're all freeborn .
Even here , he is saying the king is changing words. "Oba yin Oro" what kind of statements is that ? King is changing words. Wo God will guide all these Baba to settle this matter and peace returns to Islam in Ogbomosho
The gullible Muslims who threw stones at Oba Ghandi recently did so under the influence of this notorious Toilet. The good people of Ogbomoso don’t need any jagidijagan because of the ambition of Toilet.
What I see is that even when the previous king made him the imam, the family members were not satisfied. That was why he quickly went to meet the new king to win him to his side. Maybe when the king now got another info from the family side , the king had to cancel the promise made to him that by 98% nobody can remove him. And the problem started.
Yoruba Muslims are good and peaceful unlike the Muslims from other areas of the country and the world because of the rich Yoruba culture and traditions under which they were brought up. I so much cherish their choice of words in settling this matter. Yoruba Muslims should continue to practice the religion according to our god-given peaceful nature in Yorubaland. God bless Soun of Ogbomoso, the Imam, peacemakers and the entire Ogbomosoland.
Initially, I had painted the Iman black from what the other aggrieved party said before I heard his own side of story.. Walahii, it's very bad judge from one angle. Just one thing I learnt is the fact that, Bi eeyan bafi omode je oye, you need exercise patience while dealing with people u r priviledged to lead, don't forget, there are aggrieved members who do not in the first place admits that u merit d position even though they were d one that chooses u. It happens everywhere🤷... I just hope those aggrieved family members calm down and find a way to resolve amicably so that peace can reign..
Imam needs to speak out and start condemning the activities of the youth publicly to let people know that he is not ganging against the king, he has a lot of people he had empowered to go against the wishes of the king.
What the first commentator said was stop on. The Imam usually say lot of things which as a leader shouldn't be. Glory be to God for the Muslim elders that initiated this reconciliation.
Will you keep kwayet with this ignorance? If it doesn't concern Sultan of Sokoto, who also doubles as the President of the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs, a position equivalent to your CAN president, how does it now concern you? Is it your religion?
Soun ogbomoso did not have any issues with you go and clear your self with ayilara family you are just doing that because the king is a Christian is there any law in Nigeria that says every king in Yoruba land must be a Muslim
It's soun of ogbomosho that's in the best position to talk and give orders to the family of ayilara and all them will shield their swords wallahi and anyone who doesn't have find him or herself in court wallahi tallahi
@juniorbrowne3768 did you factually listened to the part where he said that they were screened by the family members who presented him for the final screening between three?
@nojimoluwo9852 Tell him to produce is parents or cousins or uncles....Period He said...He said...he thought he can bribe the new King like the late King... Common... You know better
It is shameful for any family to come out today to claim the ownership of seminary and baptist hospital land. I grow up to know baptist hospital and seminary a pride of Ogbomosho all over the world. Why are these people trying to destroy the peace that has been existing in Ogbomosho between the moslems and christians why for God's sake. It is shameful.
Just imagine! Sultan of Sokoto will come to impose on the King of Ogbomoso Land. Can Oni of Ife or Alafin do that in the North? The Position of Imam is attached to the Palace just as Oluwo removed the former Imam of Iwo land. The Kind as spoken that he will not leave the right of Soun Palace just because he is a Christian since history will have it.
Why are these people making him doing question and answer. They didn't ask others questions. They only left them to talk but when it was the time of Imam, they started asking him questions to provide answers. Is it that he couldn't talk without asking him questions or he would have told them he doesn't have anything to say? Kabiesi said he didn't offend him but he should settle with his family. So does begging the king hold water? They didn't even consider the family in all of this hmm...now begging for 7 Fridays and that's all...he doesn't even need to settle with the family. Nawah oo. Muslims sha!
This young Immam is not wise enough by his statement and his apology doesn't shows that he admitted he had offended the king even with all the abuses on the king for the past ten years. Let the Immam accept his fault and walk up to the king to apologize and withdraw the case in court. The king would surely forgive even going by the king's believe in God then, the king and Immam would appease the Ayilara family and they will all move on in one love and unity.
That is the reason why one should not forsake family union. One should ensure his children know his cousins and other relations.Nobody can doubt my ancestral lineage.
If the Man no go chop Chief Iman im for no get problem. As he con chop Imam he come loose his Ayilara Family who denied him. Its better to keep low profile o if you no wan hear the kind thing wey ikun (Land squirrel) hear wey im ear deaf
Kabiyesi ooooooo. Oba Lo Ni Ile. Esin Je nkan Ara Onikaluku. E Mase Fi Esin Da Ilu Ru. Ile Yoruba Ko Ni Daru. Ile Yoru Kii Ja Ija Esin. E Gbe Igbe Alaafia Ni Ile Ogbomoso. Ilu Alaafia Ni. Jagidijagan Ko Gbodo sele Mo. Awon To Le Oko Mo Kabiyesi, Ki Won Lo Tuba Ni Kiakia .
Sheikh sugar I really appreciate your comment may Allah spare your life for us on righteousness,your brain shall never be redundant bijahi la haola walaquwata ola billahi.
havig carefully listern toboth sides it clear that IT IS THE AYILARA FAMILY that is at toot of this PROBLEM. I want to liken it to a person who is accused of obtained a C of O with false documents. The only avenue open for redress is for contending party to approach the courts to PROVE their case.
But how come his family name and family root will be doubted about,didn't he has father or mother or sister even family?so how come his family root is problem
Se ori pe oni igberaga. Se oba ni ki o wa ilere ni abi tani. Sebi musulumi odo ni ope ara re. Ki lo wa nko oba ni iro si. Ogbo ohun ti oso yan yato. Ija molebi yato si gbogbo ohun ti oka kale yi.
I think it is a good advice for kabiyesi to decline to undo what the late kabiyesi did. The only thing I don't approve is for the Chief Imam to engage in war of words with Kabiyesi during his sermons. The Muslim Ummah should allow peace to reign. Whether the Chief Imam is from Ile Ayilara or not, what is important is that he must be a COMPETENT Muslim capable of leading the Muslim community?
Siso oro odi si oriade iyen nikan gan oti juwe pe omoale ponbele ni ooooooo.....Toliah you talk too much! OBA olopolo pipe ni Baba wa Ghandi Ogbo atoeeeeee kabiyesiooooo 🙏🏽
My genuine and sincere advice to Chief Imam is to please TALK LESS and apply more wisdom than knowledge. He should change his hard-line mode od preaching
If you were truly a Yoruba man, talk less of Ogbomoso (which is uniquely known to retain Yoruba culture in its least diluted form), you'd know better to interact with the traditional monarchy in such a disrespectful, careless fashion, cleric or not. Lo tún ìwà ara re se. Even if the monarch was a toddler, the Bible says give unti Caesar that which is Caesar's and I'm sure the holy Islamic text will contain similar teachings.
That is the consequences of some women that like to name or change the name of their son from previous father to present father they married to settle with. The story must leak one day. That's called! things fall apart.😂
You're a fool and arrogant mad boy come down You're still talk to much is buy force to remain lmma the king his not mate stop saying rubbish go back to your family and clear your self you have loss already
But you said that you were sent by the elders to hear the views of all parties involved, yet you started by asking the imam to tender an apology without back to the elders . You have already started giving a verdict on the matter, which suggests that no elders actually sent you. If the elders had sent you, you wouldn’t have asked the imam to seek forgiveness. You should have waited for the elders to justify the case.
I'm a Muslim deeply ilorin afanja,I'm involved fully to fight for peace,cause my entire children are from Ogbomosho and been followed and involved in comments.Even appreciate some Christian s that are fighting for peace,I pray for peace to ruin throughout Nigeria and the world. Salamualaikum.
I am a christian, but i have been following ogbomosho's issue. I love the roles our elders have played so far. God bless you all. God will help you to resolve the crisis and return peace to Ogbomosh.o
I love the first man that address Imam Ogbomosho, he said exactly what is in mind. The fire of this issue ought to have died long ago if Imam had been patient, calm and more respectful. "W'Allahi iwa omo kekere patapata ni Imam ti bo o". Paying too much attention to what he ought to have ignored.
Meanwhile, i am of the opinion that Yoruba Land should stop the habit and culture of picking Imam from few selected houses instead of picking their Imam from the most knowledgeable from the city/town. It's crude, uncivilized, and the act when keenly looked at is against the tradition of the Prophet (SAW)..
Firstly advise Nigeria to stop using the king of sokoto as head of Islamic affairs, then I will see you are serious
The family issue is most very important.
May Almighty Allah prevail on all concerned. The most crucial intervention is for the Imam to respect the Shoun as paramount. The Imam should also withdraw the court case. Genuine apology should be tendered to the King. The King should then prevail on all concerned to forgive and endorse the Imam by the grace of Almighty Allah. The agrieved members of Ayilara family should be compensated to "safe their face" by both the Imam and the King. God bless.
He is excessively arrogant, no reasonable person can allow this kind of irritating personality be closed to authority, he is juvenile and immerture, very rude and always misbehaving
Prove your self now, that you are from ayilara family show your father and mother, your siblings, so that people will understand you period
Do think you can’t have phd holders in Ayilara family
I am always happy when you meet pure religious people that can stand and say things as they are, Yoruba land can never fight over religion issues, thank you all
He has apologized and has accepted the superior roles of the King. The young Imam is an achiever, and the family should embrace their son ,they should forget the controversy, we're all freeborn .
Tell people where you come from period
Omo alee ni e, if you are not recognise by the family you claim what else.your attitude and the way you talk shows you are not from ogbomoso.
Why were you insulting the king? That is wrong of you.
Where is insulting the king
Even here , he is saying the king is changing words. "Oba yin Oro" what kind of statements is that ? King is changing words. Wo God will guide all these Baba to settle this matter and peace returns to Islam in Ogbomosho
@@Chilatech ani werey tutu ni yin, even simple statement u can't write ✍️ comfortable 😂😂😂go to school they refuse
@@idowuakinlade2317oponu
Enle.... Professor of English.@@idowuakinlade2317
The gullible Muslims who threw stones at Oba Ghandi recently did so under the influence of this notorious Toilet. The good people of Ogbomoso don’t need any jagidijagan because of the ambition of Toilet.
But why is belonging to a family an issue? Are your mum, dad and brethren dead?
E tired me o
I wonder o. Prove your pertanity now
You are not from that family, you can't advise King to favor you.
Justice must be done
What I see is that even when the previous king made him the imam, the family members were not satisfied. That was why he quickly went to meet the new king to win him to his side. Maybe when the king now got another info from the family side , the king had to cancel the promise made to him that by 98% nobody can remove him. And the problem started.
You're very correct my brother..@@emmanuelabiodun5237
Olorun to r'inu r'ode, olumoran Okan, a yanju oro yi l'oruko Jesu.
The final resolution of this issue does not rest with the Soun but with the Ayilara family.
Yoruba Muslims are good and peaceful unlike the Muslims from other areas of the country and the world because of the rich Yoruba culture and traditions under which they were brought up. I so much cherish their choice of words in settling this matter. Yoruba Muslims should continue to practice the religion according to our god-given peaceful nature in Yorubaland. God bless Soun of Ogbomoso, the Imam, peacemakers and the entire Ogbomosoland.
Initially, I had painted the Iman black from what the other aggrieved party said before I heard his own side of story.. Walahii, it's very bad judge from one angle. Just one thing I learnt is the fact that, Bi eeyan bafi omode je oye, you need exercise patience while dealing with people u r priviledged to lead, don't forget, there are aggrieved members who do not in the first place admits that u merit d position even though they were d one that chooses u. It happens everywhere🤷... I just hope those aggrieved family members calm down and find a way to resolve amicably so that peace can reign..
Jakumllahu Kaeyran...to you all. Please immam listen to advice given to you and elders should beg Oba kabiyesi to hold imam after apology as son
Imam needs to speak out and start condemning the activities of the youth publicly to let people know that he is not ganging against the king, he has a lot of people he had empowered to go against the wishes of the king.
This guy must be arrogant
May Allah Almighty grant peace and understanding between all that is involved.
What the first commentator said was stop on. The Imam usually say lot of things which as a leader shouldn't be. Glory be to God for the Muslim elders that initiated this reconciliation.
That's why you start aɓusing and insulting the King
Can you imagine?, sultan of sokoto will come and decide in yoruba land Muslims and jagidijagan re 5&6
Will you keep kwayet with this ignorance?
If it doesn't concern Sultan of Sokoto, who also doubles as the President of the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs, a position equivalent to your CAN president, how does it now concern you? Is it your religion?
Soun ogbomoso did not have any issues with you go and clear your self with ayilara family you are just doing that because the king is a Christian is there any law in Nigeria that says every king in Yoruba land must be a Muslim
Tell us where you come from since the family you came from did not accept you.
It's soun of ogbomosho that's in the best position to talk and give orders to the family of ayilara and all them will shield their swords wallahi and anyone who doesn't have find him or herself in court wallahi tallahi
Let the family of Ayilara go and put their family in order.
What order... Common stop this rubbish...they said he should proved is from their family and he can not...so what are you trying to say..
@juniorbrowne3768 did you factually listened to the part where he said that they were screened by the family members who presented him for the final screening between three?
@nojimoluwo9852 Tell him to produce is parents or cousins or uncles....Period
He said...He said...he thought he can bribe the new King like the late King...
Common... You know better
You are really intelligent and brilliant.
Good talk God bless you
It is shameful for any family to come out today to claim the ownership of seminary and baptist hospital land. I grow up to know baptist hospital and seminary a pride of Ogbomosho all over the world. Why are these people trying to destroy the peace that has been existing in Ogbomosho between the moslems and christians why for God's sake. It is shameful.
And how old are you now
thisbcase is very simple
just prove yr self that u re from Ayilara Family
lobatan
What is He,s achievement
Y is it hard for u to point out your father
Just imagine! Sultan of Sokoto will come to impose on the King of Ogbomoso Land. Can Oni of Ife or Alafin do that in the North? The Position of Imam is attached to the Palace just as Oluwo removed the former Imam of Iwo land. The Kind as spoken that he will not leave the right of Soun Palace just because he is a Christian since history will have it.
Soun of Ogbomosho doesn't have any issue with you,go and clear yourself in Ayilara Family House😊
Ko lo yanju oro ara re laarin family Ayilara
I'm confused here , what's the sultan of Sokoto business in this issue.This is Yoruba's Land
This Toliat too dey lie sha 😂
Why are these people making him doing question and answer.
They didn't ask others questions. They only left them to talk but when it was the time of Imam, they started asking him questions to provide answers.
Is it that he couldn't talk without asking him questions or he would have told them he doesn't have anything to say?
Kabiesi said he didn't offend him but he should settle with his family. So does begging the king hold water? They didn't even consider the family in all of this hmm...now begging for 7 Fridays and that's all...he doesn't even need to settle with the family.
Nawah oo. Muslims sha!
More wisdom Baba IMMAM Agba of Ogbomoso land.
This young Immam is not wise enough by his statement and his apology doesn't shows that he admitted he had offended the king even with all the abuses on the king for the past ten years.
Let the Immam accept his fault and walk up to the king to apologize and withdraw the case in court.
The king would surely forgive even going by the king's believe in God then, the king and Immam would appease the Ayilara family and they will all move on in one love and unity.
Ten years bawo? Kabiyesi Oba Orumogege recently marked 1 year on throne, na.
That is the reason why one should not forsake family union. One should ensure his children know his cousins and other relations.Nobody can doubt my ancestral lineage.
If the Man no go chop Chief Iman im for no get problem. As he con chop Imam he come loose his Ayilara Family who denied him. Its better to keep low profile o if you no wan hear the kind thing wey ikun (Land squirrel) hear wey im ear deaf
Seminary and your own isn't different? All your word is not welcome at all
Kabiyesi ooooooo. Oba Lo Ni Ile. Esin Je nkan Ara Onikaluku. E Mase Fi Esin Da Ilu Ru. Ile Yoruba Ko Ni Daru. Ile Yoru Kii Ja Ija Esin. E Gbe Igbe Alaafia Ni Ile Ogbomoso. Ilu Alaafia Ni. Jagidijagan Ko Gbodo sele Mo. Awon To Le Oko Mo Kabiyesi, Ki Won Lo Tuba Ni Kiakia .
But the late Soun didnt install you.
Sheikh sugar I really appreciate your comment may Allah spare your life for us on righteousness,your brain shall never be redundant bijahi la haola walaquwata ola billahi.
havig carefully listern toboth sides it clear that IT IS THE AYILARA FAMILY that is at toot of this PROBLEM. I want to liken it to a person who is accused of obtained a C of O with false documents. The only avenue open for redress is for contending party to approach the courts to PROVE their case.
His ego has been brought down after the Kabiyesi put his foot down on his desicions. Ara omo ale ti bale
Serriously
O bale baje
Just one question, who is the father of Yunusa Olusina Toliath?
Well, following his unreserved apology to the Soun the King should forgive him for Allah's case.
This guy just dey talk nonsense
Is it a must to be a chief imam, go and look for a job and stop causing unnecessary problem in the state mtchhhh
Also go Ayilara family
But how come his family name and family root will be doubted about,didn't he has father or mother or sister even family?so how come his family root is problem
Is it by force? Where they don't want u,why did u want to force urself in there?
O bu oba , ma paro, oniro ni e
This boy is just too arrogant with no manners, and he can lie too much
Se ori pe oni igberaga. Se oba ni ki o wa ilere ni abi tani. Sebi musulumi odo ni ope ara re. Ki lo wa nko oba ni iro si. Ogbo ohun ti oso yan yato. Ija molebi yato si gbogbo ohun ti oka kale yi.
Oloriburuku
A maa finish gbogbo yin ni ile yoruba
Iwo ati Iran e ni yoo paarun
Omo leyin esu lasanlasan
Very proud. Is this a phd holder? He talks against himself
A PhD is just a degree. It has little or nothing to do with character or being moral.
O ni o le tu asiri ile yin, sugbon o gba enu re lati tu asiri ile ati Awon Elomiran,opuro ni o,pe o bu oba ilu re, Omo komo ni se be....
Koniye oooo kilokan sotan sokoto lori oro ogbomosho igbimo yin maadaru nile yoruba
But those that you are saying are native of ogbomoso but you are not from ogbomoso,Omo ale fulani
Hare your self, dis man ,
Ayilara family said you're not the member of there family where do you come from iwo omo ale jatijati yi
Thank God you know, pe odaran ni o, olori buruku omo ale jatijati ekeji aja
Must you be this irrational?
Get a LIFE!
O ni jere Iwo gan ni Omo ale
@lawalbabatunde1522 awon baba nlaku baba e oni jere, eejo sofo tomotomo ni lase edumare kaaye irandiran re
This man is very rude …. Just vacate the place
Oungbo pe won sope?
Ahan yeye wa ni ibi apologize yen walahi, baba yi olohun o ni kanju paying gbogbo awon Omo yin ni olohun o se ni Omo idunnu
Is pure mocking, it not an apology is a very useless person
Iro lo pa, ole oniro jatijati.
I think it is a good advice for kabiyesi to decline to undo what the late kabiyesi did. The only thing I don't approve is for the Chief Imam to engage in war of words with Kabiyesi during his sermons. The Muslim Ummah should allow peace to reign. Whether the Chief Imam is from Ile Ayilara or not, what is important is that he must be a COMPETENT Muslim capable of leading the Muslim community?
You are begging but your mocking the king,that is not begging
Wahala eyin ayilara ti poju
Go and settle it among urself
That is not kabiyesis problem now
Ese modupe ooo.Emi na be Baba wa kabiyesi ki won bawa dariji baba Imam. Kabiyesi ejo Sir epe funwa Baba.
Siso oro odi si oriade iyen nikan gan oti juwe pe omoale ponbele ni ooooooo.....Toliah you talk too much! OBA olopolo pipe ni Baba wa Ghandi Ogbo atoeeeeee kabiyesiooooo 🙏🏽
My genuine and sincere advice to Chief Imam is to please TALK LESS and apply more wisdom than knowledge.
He should change his hard-line mode od preaching
Go to Ayilara family, don't seek advice
You talk too much arrogant man
Fi ipo le fun ojulowo omo, ipa o si mbe 😏
Very reckless in talking, no control of his tongue, no regards for anyone
When a leader is a conspirator, don't shield him, expose him.
Allaileko ni e, lo re ara re sile. Awokose rere kankan kosi lara yin
You are ask to beg directly, you are still cutting corners, so proud n arrogant
Awon were se Sultan ni yoo ma ba yin da si oro ile Yoruba?
6:04
If you were truly a Yoruba man, talk less of Ogbomoso (which is uniquely known to retain Yoruba culture in its least diluted form), you'd know better to interact with the traditional monarchy in such a disrespectful, careless fashion, cleric or not. Lo tún ìwà ara re se. Even if the monarch was a toddler, the Bible says give unti Caesar that which is Caesar's and I'm sure the holy Islamic text will contain similar teachings.
That is the consequences of some women that like to name or change the name of their son from previous father to present father they married to settle with.
The story must leak one
day. That's called! things fall apart.😂
This imam is very humble
He's not,and hes a liar. Technically,he know how to manipulte the situation for his favour
@@adigunoluwaseun8527 where is the humility from the context of his speech, just his body language alone speaks much about him.
@odunmi Una get time dey reply that useless boy. Person wey no get sense 😂
Humility pieces you there😂
You're a fool and arrogant mad boy come down You're still talk to much is buy force to remain lmma the king his not mate stop saying rubbish go back to your family and clear your self you have loss already
Medicine after death
But you said that you were sent by the elders to hear the views of all parties involved, yet you started by asking the imam to tender an apology without back to the elders .
You have already started giving a verdict on the matter, which suggests that no elders actually sent you. If the elders had sent you, you wouldn’t have asked the imam to seek forgiveness. You should have waited for the elders to justify the case.
Ali eleko Omo ale ni e
Iwo gan ni oponu Omo ale
Alabosi logbeni to soro tan yi, ki lo kan sultan sokoto ninu oro ile yoruba?
Adviser toliat.
Olé ni Kabiesi Ana...
Haaa, l'ona wo o? Baba ana was in his 90s when this Imam was installed.
Sultan sokoto ko ti Kano ni eranko ,se Fulani loma bawa to ilu wa ni , toliat lo se igberaga si oba , se mufutau iwo o le WA ba bebe ni
I'm a Muslim deeply ilorin afanja,I'm involved fully to fight for peace,cause my entire children are from Ogbomosho and been followed and involved in comments.Even appreciate some Christian s that are fighting for peace,I pray for peace to ruin throughout Nigeria and the world. Salamualaikum.