Hey mate, I fully recommend that you open this laptop and remove the clock battery immediately. I own one of these laptops and mine had a leaked battery which thankfully did not damage the motherboard. I would also recycle the lithium main battery, they are too dangerous to keep in your house. It’s just not worth it risk a fire.
I was about to write the same, only on my 430CDS the battery had already damaged the motherboard beyond repair! Coincidentally I replaced the motherboard on it today, before I even knew about this video coming out today.
The main batteries aren't terrible dangerous since they're very low density. A lot of these Japanese batteries still work, even. The battery in my 430CDT still holds about an hour. I'll take your word on the clock battery, though - They always leak. Mine seems to still keep time, even with the main battery removed, so I might call it good for now. A friend of mine is considering buying it off me though, so if I do end up selling it I'll at least have a look first.
@@AiOinc1 Yeah my main lithium battery was leaking and bulging at the time I bought the laptop. I was lucky to rescue it as it would have split the case apart. I have many antique machines and I decided for safety of my collection and home to not collect batteries in case of a short/ fire.
Please remove as soon as possible the BIOS/CMOS/Clock batteries. All Toshibas from that time have them and they will leak and damage the laptop. www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=60613
Hi there just install nusb36e driver and it replaces the old win 98 USB mass storage driver and then you can use any old thumb drive or external USB HD, the driver is small enough to be installed by floppy drive. I have this exact laptop and the driver worked great
My first laptop back in the early 90's ... it is indeed how I learned everything ... I give this laptop lots of credit because it was ahead of its time back then. Thank you for sharing.
This Pentium MMX generation is the best one. The previous Pentium (gen 1) generation is plagued with battery corrosion issues and system complexity - disassembly is a nightmare and the clock battery was right on top of the motherboard. This one is easily disassembled, the clock battery is away from the motherboard and it's overall simple and functional.
Nice find. Toshiba ruled back in the mid 90's with these laptops. The sound card in these is more than decent. I myself have the Toshiba Satellite Pro 400CDT - an older model despite the higher model number. Being only pôwered by an Intel P75 but comes also with the Yamaha OPL3 chip. Sadly it appears that some caps on the motherboard gave up the battle. The keyboard and nipple became very emotional & started having the life of their own.
heh used to support those old toshibas back in the day, only thing that went wrong with that age of laptops where harddrive, ram or most likely os (user error) still have couple of them, tecra 750 dvd comes close to that with 233mmx. good machines :)
How capable are these in terms of Internet connectivity? Is it realistic to think that you can actually browse the Internet with that thing? At least simple and old websites.
A couple of months ago I've found a Toshiba satellite 2065 cds on eBay for $50. It's fully working and it came with the original documents and reinstall CDs!
The CDS versions are less desirable because only the CDT models have TFT active matrix displays. STN displays suck in general, but they especially suck for gaming.
I remember the first time I saw a satellite laptop. I was in awe that someone could access the internet anywhere. Then mobile internet happened and I forgot about how cool it was.
I love the sounds those old hard drives make. I have a 486 computer and it has a 540MB Conner HDD that I "repaired" (it was somehow formated as 650MB and didn't work anymore because of this) and I really like the sound it makes when it starts spinning up. Also the 850MB Quantum hard drive in the Pentium 60 I own sounds exactly like the one in this laptop.
Nice find, I also love old Toshiba’s (owned one in the nineties and have a couple of them now). It’s looks in an excellent shape! Not entirely sure, but you can probably use a Y-splitter on the PS/2 port to attach both a PS/2 keyboard and a PS/2 mouse.
unless the laptop specifically mentions two outputs for that PS/2 port, you will never be able to use the Y-splitter...tried it on numerous old hardware.
Well, I did the test on my Toshiba Tecra 730CDT, which has both keyboard and mouse label on the PS/2 port, and a cheap PS/2 splitter from China. The keyboard works fine, but the mouse doesn’t at first sight. It’s an optical mouse and it gets powered as the light lits up, but no mouse. I also tested on an IBM Thinkpad 770X, but one that one the keyboard doesn’t even work. Next up was the Toshiba Satellite 110CT, but on that one also no keyboard, nor mouse.
Had a entire collection of these at one point, haha. Now I only have the 4030CDT, which was my first laptop :) If one would buy a laptop like this one, be sure to buy the CDT and not the CDS or CS, you will have a bad time when you have an S model xD
A screen resolution which is very good for this class of pentium laptops with 800x600 screens is the res 400x300. It's not much more demanding than 320x200 or 320x240, but it fills up all the screen which is much better !
Had a lot of these in the 2000's. They were great machines. Maintained hundreds if not thousands over the years as an IT guy back in the day. CDT's had active matrix displays. CDS' were garbage passive displays. These got much better in the 4000 series running Windows 2000.
Ohh that sweet, sweet Warcraft II music.. And the ol' Blizzard intro videosound as well. Things sure were better back in the old days.. (Well, some things anyway)
A couple of weeks ago I was restoring a Toshiba 530CDT laptop. I was in the final phase of the job, when I accidentaly broke the goddamn hard drive flat cable, which of course is proprietary, made on purpose only for that model and it's almost impossible to obtain. I'll have to wait until I'll find another broken 530CDT to complete the job. Sgrunt!
And, lo and behold, a couple of days ago I snagged a Toshiba 320CDT laptop for 45 EUR (50 swiss francs). Sold as non-working, it actually is in perfect working order and pretty clean aesthetically. The only thing I had to do was to "wake up" the hard drive, which after all the years that was sitting unused had the usual issue with the heads sticking to the platters. A bit of shaking and the drive was back in operation too. Happy :-D
I came across one of these in my recent basement clean out, battery unsurprisingly holds zero charge but still keeping as a side toy to mess around with.
That's a very nice find. I remember seeing one like this at my workplace in the old equipment storage room way back in 2005. Sadly I don't know what became of it...
That's a nice machine. Very well preserved. I have a 1997 IBM Thinkpad 760XL, but i made the mistake to not check for the 3.6 V NiMH battery and made some damage to the keyboard controller board. I was manage to fix it, but i think that the chemicals from that battery ruined the screen too now i need to replace it. The laptop still stinks of a vinegar like smell after a full dissasembly and cleaning. i also bought a very nice thinkpad 770X from a German guy with full accesories and documentation, still waiting for it. That was the king of laptops back in '98!!!
I used a similar Toshiba for a couple of years. It was a free gift. I have something similar running today on one of my Thinkpad T60 laptops (rebuilt/restored from AS-IS junk sold on ebay). I will attempt to make a serial/USB connection to some pocket computers similar to before. I'm quite happy with my restored retro systems from various hardware put in other hardware from backup files. DOSBox and such doesn't do the same.
@SNES Nes You can try to look at later models like the Tecra 8100, which had an S3 Savage MX with 3D support. Albeit that one is a Pentium III machine.
Wow pretty good machine! I've remember in early 1997 parents bought me AMD K6 200 Mhz with 16mb Ram and 3.2 GB HDD and AWE 64 soundcard. For this time that was really good setup. Nice fin and nice video!
Your're lucky to have found the TFT version. I worked with the DSTN version and playing a game on the internal display wasn't really possible due to the crappy screen. It is a good portable dos retro game pc :-)
I had his brother at the time the 266MMX model, it was fine and fast and reliable until I put win98 on it. All games runes fine with win95 but slow with win98 system. You should try to get win95 and do the same tests, I am sure games will run a lot faster. Also great video
@@RetroSpector78 : you may try the infamous "win96" beta ; I ran it for a long time as it's the sweet spot between 95 and 98. Only caveat, never, ever set a picture as screen background. But with a bit of clever editing, you could install win 98 direct X on it, and install games that were supposedly 98 compatible only with the lower ressource footprint of win95. Plus running beta software is always cooler than using a vanilla OS ;-) // en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Nashville
Agreed that this is borderline territory for Windows 98, so it would be a great candidate to test out Windows 95 (or even perhaps 98micro.) I acquired some faster Toshiba laptops as throwaways and definitely like them as intermediate devices to transfer files from USB to floppy (or vice-versa) in order to keep my older machines isolated from the Internet. My Toshibas and IBM Thinkpad (pre-Lenovo) have stood the test of time over other brands of throwaway laptops I acquired, and it is simply an added bonus that the Toshibas support USB sticks and floppies, while my other laptops generally don’t.
@@RetroSpector78 So you got it and a bench of performance between win98 and win 95 should be great, I remember that the game starcraft was not playable in win98 but fine in win95.
Very nice laptop. I used to own one of these but gave it to a fellow collector last year who wanted something compact for his son to use. The OPL3 sound is what makes it for me. Awesome to be able to run all those old DOS games easily. BTW if you want a really good racer to run on this I'd recommend Screamer 2.
Wait a second, this was my first ever computer! I never knew it was actually so capable back then. I really only ever used to it mess around with pain, record silly voice clips, and play Blues Clues, which ultimately didn't run that great.
Wow, the memories... Had one in the late 90's / early 2000's. I don't remember how I got one (never paid for it...). Don't remember how I got rid of it (pretty sure I never sold it neither....)... I have a bunch of hardware in that situation (I can't remember what happened to my original Xbox either :))... Strangely, I only remember playing Need for Speed on it (not even sure if it's NFS I or II or III...)... Oh Lord, it's ugly getting old :)
Great machine, I used to have one back in a day - durable as hell. I had a chance to reclaim it recently, but I chose IBM Thinkpad 385XD instead. As for this laptop, I think you can use ps/2 splitter to attach both mouse and a keyboard. You may also use screen stretcing (in BIOS) to avoid windowing 640x480 games.
Yeah noticed that option too late after creating all of the footage :) dunno if I have a ps/2 splitter. Figured you could choose but not use them at the same time.
Those old harddrives always remind me of coffeemakers with the sounds they make. Those faint mechanical sounds, just like an old fashioned drip coffee maker. This laptop would be quite good for playing some very early (and compatible tricky to run) directx games such as venom-spiderman Separation Anxiety. It’s a directx 1 game from 1995 and has many compatibility challanges even with my pentium 2 running windows 98 because it doesn’t seem to like the soundblaster pci 128 card. It’s one of those cases where I wished the game beeing for DOS but sadly beeing for windows instead.
nice! I've got 4000CDT model myself and love it! Be careful if you try to open it since those soldered speaker wires are short and snap off really easy
I have very similar spec 470cdt and I really like how easy it is to use cf cards as swappable hdd's and one of the best features is definitely that USB port as it's so easy to plug in modern mice to use. Only downsides imo are minor issues in dos sb emulation, but luckily they're not too big issues. Absolutely one of the best retro machines put there. I was initially looking into those really small toshiba models, can't recall model name, but they're at least same rarity level and have too much proprietary connectors.
10:50 I love how you kept on trying thumb drives, like four of them before you get one working. Most people would have given up after a couple of them failing, and would assume there was something wrong with that Windows installation preventing usage of mass storage. And, of course, it's really funny the sleek modern USB 3.0 Sandisk drive was the one that worked.
I have something very similar to this, a 300CDS. It has the inferior screen which doesn't do motion well, the integrated mouse buttons have deteriorated a bit & the speakers seem a bit crackly. Your rig definitely looks in better shape.
Damn! I wish I still had my Toshiba Satellite Pro 6400CDS... Loved that beast...! It included a Pentium III at 800MHz, 10/100Mbps LAN, 802.11b WLAN (the whole 11Mbps of it, a 56k V.92 modem, 2 Type II (1 type III) PCMCIA slot, USB, etc. It came with Windows 2000 Professional preinstalled, and mine also had the option to rum Windows 98 from the factory. Upon release of Windows XP, Toshiba supported it to the fullest extent. Literally everything worked with it, and some features required even less configuration than before. A couple of years ago, my uncle bought it for €200, only to have it stolen from his car a mere 20 minutes later... Boy, do I regret this sale...!
@SNES Nes Try searching without the CDS suffix; I may not have remembered it correctly. You'll have a hard time finding an example to buy though, That's why I regret having sold mine in the first place. Mine was specced at 1GHZ and I had the memory upgrade installed in it from the factory, bringing it up to a whopping 256MB (which was an absolutely huge amount of RAM at the time... We're talking 2002-ish...).
I had a Satellite 205CDS Pentium 100 that I bought in late 1995. I paid almost $2500 for it. It served me well until replaced with an HP Pavilion laptop with an AMD K6-III in 2000. Great laptops.
very nice..you have done a good job presenting these great computers of yesteryear. i have always been a console gamer..except for 1983 85 8bit computers were my choice ..
Honestly I think that for retro gaming in general, laptops from one generation later are slightly better. I have a Dell Latitude CPx-J with a 650MHz Pentium 3, 256 MByte of RAM, a 20 GB HDD and a 1024x768 display. It's almost perfect for most 90s Windows games. I'm currently running XP on it, but I think that switching to 98SE would also make it quite a potent DOS machine. It even has a soundcard that has a SB16 emulation mode.
Get NUSB for windows 98SE. It will even support USB mice and keyboards in windows. Once installed it on a IBM PC330, 430HX chipset,64Mb RAM with 2 USB 1.0 ports. It worked fine, even on a seagate 1TB USB external hard drive formatted in FAT32 with the 48 bit LBA patch installed. Games and all other software worked right off the flash drive without a problem.
Very nice machine! Definitely faster than my LTE 5000 machines, which I have set up to dual boot DOS and Win95. I've added a Cisco Aironet 350 wireless PCMCIA card to my systems for some wireless web browsing fun both in DOS and in Windows!!
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I have a model off eBay similar to this, the 300CDS. The USB port is an oldie (1.0-1?) so it ain't super fast but it's much more convenient than having to burn single use CDs or use error-prone floppies. Listening to the hard drive is always nice as well ;-)
This thing will be nice for some strategy games like Command&Conquer, Railroad Tycoon II or Patrician III. There are a lot of awesome late 2D titles out there that have really enjoyable graphics .
I have the Toshiba Satellite 4000CDT. It contains the Pentium 2 233 MMX. They TFT is very good. No real ghosting or any kind I could detect. Runs the games you demonstrated a bit better. But nothing compares to my 3dfx machines 😄
i have an almost identical one, 320cdt, plus 3 other grey tosh's, those 3 have integrated power supply/chargers, so plug direct to mains via a 'figure of 8' lead!
the charging part of my 320cdt doesnt work, but powers the machine ok, i was able to charge the battery in one of the other tosh's ok, so the issue isnt the battery itself
I own a Satellite 4000CDT which looks identical to this. I have recently upgraded its processor to a Pentium 2 300 (it was a 233) and the ram to 160MB.
Used to use one exactly like this back in the day except with a Pentium II 233 and a DSTN display. I would take the P200 with TFT over that combo any day of the week ;)
PS/2 keyboard and mouse can be connected both together to this PS/2 port. You just need a Y-cable (it's not a Toshiba specific thing - this was common on laptops back then).
I had bought a Toshiba Satellite P75 (or 90?) from a garage sale for $10 a few years ago, but I sold it because it didn't have a soundcard. Good unit though, I used to have a 1000CS 386 Satellite way back when. Now I have an Armada 1750, from late 1998 - 366 MHz PII, 64 Mb RAM, 6 Gb hard disk, 16x CDROM (I think?) that is not picky about burned CDROMS, large well tracking active TFT screen, USB, built in sound (OPL3 I think?) it also has a built in power supply and as a result is like 4 or 5 cm thick but not too heavy. just awesome. I brought it with me to Korea on a recent trip, battery even lasts an hour, so it got some use in the flight playing Heroes of Might and Magic II. What I sold the P75 I added a few bucks more to buy it. It's simply amazing, I love it, I recommend it to anyone!
This spurred so many memories, I used to have it's much cheaper and nastier brother the 210cs. I suspect this is the laptop that I forgot to backup my first digital holiday pictures from before it died. Copying pictures from a Kodak DC200 digital camera over serial cables whilst on holiday in Florence in 1999. It got stolen out of the boot of my car on New Millennium Eve and the insurance company replaced it with a Pentium III 800MHz model!
Actually, it's also just the right amount of retro for MS-DOS/Windows 3.1. The OPL3 sound chip he mentioned is sitting on an ISA connection, which means they're fully Sound Blaster Pro compatible in DOS (no drivers necessary!). I have a 4025CDT (slightly faster than the 310CDT) and it runs DOS beautifully. The C&T 65555 video chip used in these laptops also have fully functional Windows 3.11 drivers. They have decent DOS video speeds too. Put a 8GB flash card (DOS 6.22 supports up to four 2GB partitions per disk) with an adapter in it and you can get a beast of a DOS machine running. :-) (as a bonus, if you disable the cpu cache on it, it'll slow it down just enough to match approximately a 386 20 mhz)
@@RetroSpector78 With a Satellite Pro or a Portege from about the same time period, you can also get a docking station that offers a game port for that DOS gaming experience. :)
@SNES Nes It does, but it's kind of a DOS virtual machine. Given the kinds of dos memory configurations, it's either make a PIF file for each DOS executable or you can dual boot DOS/Win9x... I prefer pure DOS for my dos gaming. :)
The batteries in these must be really reliable. I got a slightly newer Toshiba Satellite Pro 330CDT and the battery still works holding a charge of over 2 hours.
I have a Sattellite 220CDS almost the same as yours, and some usb drives do the same. There is a generic mass storage driver online for windows 95 and 98 available that may help to fix that error :-)
I actually have one of these but haven't tried getting it up and running yet. Could you possibly do me a favor and tell me what the voltage output on your power supply is asking for? I don't want to just throw random ones on there and hope for the best. I did a little looking around and couldn't find much information regarding voltage, amperage and if if its center positive or center negative etc. Any help would be much appreciated. Great video man
Your computer has kinda weird slowdowns. Some games are stuttering which seem to relate with a different problem than lack of CPU horsepower. Maybe it needs more RAM ? Is the DMA mode enabled for the HDD ?
Also noticed that .. thought it might be the usb as I was using a daemon to mount iso’s and perhaps thst was causing it. But would need to check to make sure.
@@RetroSpector78 These slowdowns looked exactly like when you don't have DMA enabled for your source drive (HDD, CD-ROM...). If you used USB to mount ISOs, it should look exactly like that.
Hi, thanks for this interesting demo, I still have that one and like it too ; well, I would like to use a small part editor but I need midi out, so I suppose a PCMCIA card with right connection is neccessary isn't it ? MPU401 is available in bios with 330H port (scsi) otherwise how is possible to get access midi ? Thanks for answers !
This was one of my first retro PC purchases years ago. I used it solely to play Starcraft. The hard drive died. I replaced it. The new one died and I gave up on it. Wonder if I can do a CF card?
I'm waiting for an SD244pin IDE converter to come in and I will be tackling that on my Compaq 475... right after I re-band the floppy. Fun times! If that works, my Armada 1750 is next.
I have an ASUS laptop with similar specs and aesthetics. Really nice to play these mid-to-late 90s era games, but I really miss the 3D Acceleration when I try something like Tomb Raider. The graphics performance is worse than on a desktop S3Trio64V+ which by the time my ASUS released was really outdated even for a budget solution. I remember playing Need for Speed 4 on the Trio. It wasn't fast, but playable.
This was my first works laptop I got in 1998, probably about 2010 ish they were all thrown in a skip (all would have worked) Infact I still have the pcmcia network card, and not like the one in this vid (we used similar 3com ones) that had a flimsy dongle from the card to the rj45 the card I still have has a full size rj45 port on it (thiugh it takes up two slots)
I would never trust an existing install. Always best to start fresh when driver issues come up. Definitely use the newer driver from PhilsComputerLab anyways. That said, these laptops are fantastic for DOS/early Windows games. My friend recently acquired a couple of them. The real OPL3 chip is a big deal!
I have a bunch of 430CDT's with various issues... the whole line tend to have very leaky NI-MH batteries for suspend and CMOS right under the keyboard, I highly recommend removing those. I still haven't been able to come up with one working machine between all of mine.
Urgh reminds me when I went on holiday with mine and fell foul of the removable hard drive where I accidentally left mine under my pillow and the cages were not easy to get a hold of at the time 🤬
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I had laptops like this back in the day. Solid machines over all.
Hey mate, I fully recommend that you open this laptop and remove the clock battery immediately. I own one of these laptops and mine had a leaked battery which thankfully did not damage the motherboard. I would also recycle the lithium main battery, they are too dangerous to keep in your house. It’s just not worth it risk a fire.
I was about to write the same, only on my 430CDS the battery had already damaged the motherboard beyond repair! Coincidentally I replaced the motherboard on it today, before I even knew about this video coming out today.
The main batteries aren't terrible dangerous since they're very low density. A lot of these Japanese batteries still work, even. The battery in my 430CDT still holds about an hour.
I'll take your word on the clock battery, though - They always leak. Mine seems to still keep time, even with the main battery removed, so I might call it good for now. A friend of mine is considering buying it off me though, so if I do end up selling it I'll at least have a look first.
Ooh, good to know. I just noticed my 660CDT isn't keeping time.
@@AiOinc1 Yeah my main lithium battery was leaking and bulging at the time I bought the laptop. I was lucky to rescue it as it would have split the case apart. I have many antique machines and I decided for safety of my collection and home to not collect batteries in case of a short/ fire.
Please remove as soon as possible the BIOS/CMOS/Clock batteries. All Toshibas from that time have them and they will leak and damage the laptop. www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=60613
Hi there just install nusb36e driver and it replaces the old win 98 USB mass storage driver and then you can use any old thumb drive or external USB HD, the driver is small enough to be installed by floppy drive. I have this exact laptop and the driver worked great
My first laptop back in the early 90's ... it is indeed how I learned everything ... I give this laptop lots of credit because it was ahead of its time back then. Thank you for sharing.
I have 320CDT! 96Mb RAM, 233MHz and 120Gb hard drive. Battery still works!
i like how they wrote 2.1 bilion bytes in the ad, it gives the consumer that feeling that is such a large capacity.
It's like those charging bricks they advertise on RUclips - 20,000 milliamps!
Just say 20 amps man...
This Pentium MMX generation is the best one. The previous Pentium (gen 1) generation is plagued with battery corrosion issues and system complexity - disassembly is a nightmare and the clock battery was right on top of the motherboard. This one is easily disassembled, the clock battery is away from the motherboard and it's overall simple and functional.
Haven’t opened it up yet. Bought it for 10 EUR, got it home and could immediately get started it with it and play some games ;) refreshing.....
Nice find. Toshiba ruled back in the mid 90's with these laptops. The sound card in these is more than decent. I myself have the Toshiba Satellite Pro 400CDT - an older model despite the higher model number. Being only pôwered by an Intel P75 but comes also with the Yamaha OPL3 chip. Sadly it appears that some caps on the motherboard gave up the battle. The keyboard and nipple became very emotional & started having the life of their own.
heh used to support those old toshibas back in the day, only thing that went wrong with that age of laptops where harddrive, ram or most likely os (user error) still have couple of them, tecra 750 dvd comes close to that with 233mmx. good machines :)
They were easy systems to support. I supported them in the US.
How capable are these in terms of Internet connectivity? Is it realistic to think that you can actually browse the Internet with that thing? At least simple and old websites.
A couple of months ago I've found a Toshiba satellite 2065 cds on eBay for $50. It's fully working and it came with the original documents and reinstall CDs!
The CDS versions are less desirable because only the CDT models have TFT active matrix displays. STN displays suck in general, but they especially suck for gaming.
I remember the first time I saw a satellite laptop. I was in awe that someone could access the internet anywhere. Then mobile internet happened and I forgot about how cool it was.
I love the sounds those old hard drives make. I have a 486 computer and it has a 540MB Conner HDD that I "repaired" (it was somehow formated as 650MB and didn't work anymore because of this) and I really like the sound it makes when it starts spinning up. Also the 850MB Quantum hard drive in the Pentium 60 I own sounds exactly like the one in this laptop.
Iconic laptop and iconic logitech mouse - it's been a long time since I saw that green black and green logo
Nice find, I also love old Toshiba’s (owned one in the nineties and have a couple of them now). It’s looks in an excellent shape! Not entirely sure, but you can probably use a Y-splitter on the PS/2 port to attach both a PS/2 keyboard and a PS/2 mouse.
unless the laptop specifically mentions two outputs for that PS/2 port, you will never be able to use the Y-splitter...tried it on numerous old hardware.
There are two unused pins. You could check them for pull-up to +5V, which would indicate one or both are being used as a second data/clock line.
Well, I did the test on my Toshiba Tecra 730CDT, which has both keyboard and mouse label on the PS/2 port, and a cheap PS/2 splitter from China. The keyboard works fine, but the mouse doesn’t at first sight. It’s an optical mouse and it gets powered as the light lits up, but no mouse. I also tested on an IBM Thinkpad 770X, but one that one the keyboard doesn’t even work. Next up was the Toshiba Satellite 110CT, but on that one also no keyboard, nor mouse.
I have a very similar Toshiba from that era but it's a Tecra. I have a 486 based Satellite too though. I love those computers.
Had a entire collection of these at one point, haha. Now I only have the 4030CDT, which was my first laptop :) If one would buy a laptop like this one, be sure to buy the CDT and not the CDS or CS, you will have a bad time when you have an S model xD
A screen resolution which is very good for this class of pentium laptops with 800x600 screens is the res 400x300. It's not much more demanding than 320x200 or 320x240, but it fills up all the screen which is much better !
If the game allows it!
Had a lot of these in the 2000's. They were great machines. Maintained hundreds if not thousands over the years as an IT guy back in the day. CDT's had active matrix displays. CDS' were garbage passive displays. These got much better in the 4000 series running Windows 2000.
Yeah that’s why I picked it up. Guy was living 5mins from my house ... pretty happy with it.
I've got the 300CDT with the 166MHz CPU from 1998 and still working. Great laptop indeed!
Every get any crackling from the speakers randomly?
Ohh that sweet, sweet Warcraft II music.. And the ol' Blizzard intro videosound as well. Things sure were better back in the old days.. (Well, some things anyway)
A couple of weeks ago I was restoring a Toshiba 530CDT laptop. I was in the final phase of the job, when I accidentaly broke the goddamn hard drive flat cable, which of course is proprietary, made on purpose only for that model and it's almost impossible to obtain. I'll have to wait until I'll find another broken 530CDT to complete the job. Sgrunt!
And, lo and behold, a couple of days ago I snagged a Toshiba 320CDT laptop for 45 EUR (50 swiss francs). Sold as non-working, it actually is in perfect working order and pretty clean aesthetically. The only thing I had to do was to "wake up" the hard drive, which after all the years that was sitting unused had the usual issue with the heads sticking to the platters. A bit of shaking and the drive was back in operation too. Happy :-D
I came across one of these in my recent basement clean out, battery unsurprisingly holds zero charge but still keeping as a side toy to mess around with.
Cool! My 205CDS still works, or at least it did a couple of months ago when I last turned it one! ;)
That's a very nice find. I remember seeing one like this at my workplace in the old equipment storage room way back in 2005. Sadly I don't know what became of it...
Wow you found a working one last one I had wouldn’t read expansion ram at all onboard ram no problem
That's a nice machine. Very well preserved. I have a 1997 IBM Thinkpad 760XL, but i made the mistake to not check for the 3.6 V NiMH battery and made some damage to the keyboard controller board. I was manage to fix it, but i think that the chemicals from that battery ruined the screen too now i need to replace it. The laptop still stinks of a vinegar like smell after a full dissasembly and cleaning. i also bought a very nice thinkpad 770X from a German guy with full accesories and documentation, still waiting for it. That was the king of laptops back in '98!!!
I used a similar Toshiba for a couple of years. It was a free gift. I have something similar running today on one of my Thinkpad T60 laptops (rebuilt/restored from AS-IS junk sold on ebay). I will attempt to make a serial/USB connection to some pocket computers similar to before. I'm quite happy with my restored retro systems from various hardware put in other hardware from backup files. DOSBox and such doesn't do the same.
Totally agree. Love those Satellites. I would love to have one of those.
I had one... whatever you do make sure its 64MB or even 128MB RAM with a decent HDD
@SNES Nes You can try to look at later models like the Tecra 8100, which had an S3 Savage MX with 3D support. Albeit that one is a Pentium III machine.
Wow pretty good machine! I've remember in early 1997 parents bought me AMD K6 200 Mhz with 16mb Ram and 3.2 GB HDD and AWE 64 soundcard. For this time that was really good setup. Nice fin and nice video!
Your're lucky to have found the TFT version. I worked with the DSTN version and playing a game on the internal display wasn't really possible due to the crappy screen. It is a good portable dos retro game pc :-)
I have a very similar one. It's a 4010CDT with a Pentium II processor and 96MB of RAM.
I had his brother at the time the 266MMX model, it was fine and fast and reliable until I put win98 on it. All games runes fine with win95 but slow with win98 system. You should try to get win95 and do the same tests, I am sure games will run a lot faster.
Also great video
Yeah been looking for an excuse for a good old fashined win95 and plus install :)
@@RetroSpector78 : you may try the infamous "win96" beta ; I ran it for a long time as it's the sweet spot between 95 and 98. Only caveat, never, ever set a picture as screen background. But with a bit of clever editing, you could install win 98 direct X on it, and install games that were supposedly 98 compatible only with the lower ressource footprint of win95. Plus running beta software is always cooler than using a vanilla OS ;-) // en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Nashville
Agreed that this is borderline territory for Windows 98, so it would be a great candidate to test out Windows 95 (or even perhaps 98micro.) I acquired some faster Toshiba laptops as throwaways and definitely like them as intermediate devices to transfer files from USB to floppy (or vice-versa) in order to keep my older machines isolated from the Internet.
My Toshibas and IBM Thinkpad (pre-Lenovo) have stood the test of time over other brands of throwaway laptops I acquired, and it is simply an added bonus that the Toshibas support USB sticks and floppies, while my other laptops generally don’t.
@@RetroSpector78 So you got it and a bench of performance between win98 and win 95 should be great, I remember that the game starcraft was not playable in win98 but fine in win95.
I've got a Portégé 660CDT. 150MHz and no MMX. Battery is still good in mine, too. Your video just prompted me to play some DOS games on it.
Ah that iconic colour scheme of the Satellite series. I had a T2110 back in the 90s.
Very nice laptop. I used to own one of these but gave it to a fellow collector last year who wanted something compact for his son to use. The OPL3 sound is what makes it for me. Awesome to be able to run all those old DOS games easily. BTW if you want a really good racer to run on this I'd recommend Screamer 2.
Nice one! Got the 4000CDS (awful screen) and recently the 2520CDT which is excellent for retrogaming (OPL3,AMD K6 and S3 graphics).
Awesome! I got a 460CDT from a co-worker. Awesome beast of a machine. I also put Win 98 on it.
Holy crap. A blast trom the past. This was my first computer. That any many AOL dial up internet free trials.
I had one of these in the days, it lasted years and years, with none of the 10 million updates needed on later OS's lol...great video....👍👍👍👍
Wait a second, this was my first ever computer! I never knew it was actually so capable back then. I really only ever used to it mess around with pain, record silly voice clips, and play Blues Clues, which ultimately didn't run that great.
Wow, the memories... Had one in the late 90's / early 2000's. I don't remember how I got one (never paid for it...). Don't remember how I got rid of it (pretty sure I never sold it neither....)... I have a bunch of hardware in that situation (I can't remember what happened to my original Xbox either :))... Strangely, I only remember playing Need for Speed on it (not even sure if it's NFS I or II or III...)... Oh Lord, it's ugly getting old :)
Haha, watching your video a little further, it most certainly wasn't NFS II :)
Great machine, I used to have one back in a day - durable as hell. I had a chance to reclaim it recently, but I chose IBM Thinkpad 385XD instead.
As for this laptop, I think you can use ps/2 splitter to attach both mouse and a keyboard. You may also use screen stretcing (in BIOS) to avoid windowing 640x480 games.
Yeah noticed that option too late after creating all of the footage :) dunno if I have a ps/2 splitter. Figured you could choose but not use them at the same time.
I have a serial mouse and PS/2 keyboard. :)
nice machine. Good video. Nice to see a review as a difference from a tear-down and repair. I love the repair ones..but this is a nice change.
Those old harddrives always remind me of coffeemakers with the sounds they make. Those faint mechanical sounds, just like an old fashioned drip coffee maker. This laptop would be quite good for playing some very early (and compatible tricky to run) directx games such as venom-spiderman Separation Anxiety. It’s a directx 1 game from 1995 and has many compatibility challanges even with my pentium 2 running windows 98 because it doesn’t seem to like the soundblaster pci 128 card. It’s one of those cases where I wished the game beeing for DOS but sadly beeing for windows instead.
nice! I've got 4000CDT model myself and love it! Be careful if you try to open it since those soldered speaker wires are short and snap off really easy
Been fighting the urge to open it.
@@RetroSpector78 you need to take out the leaky green bateries from inside.
@@RetroSpector78 You must. The battery inside needs to be changed. Search your feelings you know it to be true!
Toshiba was offended by the ancient flash drives offered to her, but when they gave 32 GB, that's another matter
i have one in 95, yeah i high school king!
I have the 490XCDT, still using it to this day.
I got a 460CDT. Same laptop, slower cpu 166mhz with MMX. Swapped out the drive with a CF card. Love the thing 😁
I had a P150 Toshiba Satellite that I maxed out the RAM on at 128MB. Not for games but as an early university system for coding it worked fine.
I have very similar spec 470cdt and I really like how easy it is to use cf cards as swappable hdd's and one of the best features is definitely that USB port as it's so easy to plug in modern mice to use. Only downsides imo are minor issues in dos sb emulation, but luckily they're not too big issues. Absolutely one of the best retro machines put there. I was initially looking into those really small toshiba models, can't recall model name, but they're at least same rarity level and have too much proprietary connectors.
Love it. I have a Satellite 330cds I recently purchased for some retro gaming.
Had a *300CDS* back in 2002, this was the one without the TFT screen and a 166Mhz CPU, but wow the TFT version is *MUCH* better . Wish I'd had that
10:50 I love how you kept on trying thumb drives, like four of them before you get one working. Most people would have given up after a couple of them failing, and would assume there was something wrong with that Windows installation preventing usage of mass storage. And, of course, it's really funny the sleek modern USB 3.0 Sandisk drive was the one that worked.
Surprised it saw all 32 GB
I have something very similar to this, a 300CDS. It has the inferior screen which doesn't do motion well, the integrated mouse buttons have deteriorated a bit & the speakers seem a bit crackly. Your rig definitely looks in better shape.
Damn! I wish I still had my Toshiba Satellite Pro 6400CDS... Loved that beast...! It included a Pentium III at 800MHz, 10/100Mbps LAN, 802.11b WLAN (the whole 11Mbps of it, a 56k V.92 modem, 2 Type II (1 type III) PCMCIA slot, USB, etc. It came with Windows 2000 Professional preinstalled, and mine also had the option to rum Windows 98 from the factory. Upon release of Windows XP, Toshiba supported it to the fullest extent. Literally everything worked with it, and some features required even less configuration than before. A couple of years ago, my uncle bought it for €200, only to have it stolen from his car a mere 20 minutes later... Boy, do I regret this sale...!
@SNES Nes Try searching without the CDS suffix; I may not have remembered it correctly. You'll have a hard time finding an example to buy though, That's why I regret having sold mine in the first place. Mine was specced at 1GHZ and I had the memory upgrade installed in it from the factory, bringing it up to a whopping 256MB (which was an absolutely huge amount of RAM at the time... We're talking 2002-ish...).
I had a Satellite 205CDS Pentium 100 that I bought in late 1995. I paid almost $2500 for it. It served me well until replaced with an HP Pavilion laptop with an AMD K6-III in 2000. Great laptops.
Your videos are always great! ^^
very nice..you have done a good job presenting these great computers of yesteryear. i have always been a console gamer..except for 1983 85 8bit computers were my choice ..
Honestly I think that for retro gaming in general, laptops from one generation later are slightly better. I have a Dell Latitude CPx-J with a 650MHz Pentium 3, 256 MByte of RAM, a 20 GB HDD and a 1024x768 display. It's almost perfect for most 90s Windows games. I'm currently running XP on it, but I think that switching to 98SE would also make it quite a potent DOS machine. It even has a soundcard that has a SB16 emulation mode.
Get NUSB for windows 98SE. It will even support USB mice and keyboards in windows. Once installed it on a IBM PC330, 430HX chipset,64Mb RAM with 2 USB 1.0 ports. It worked fine, even on a seagate 1TB USB external hard drive formatted in FAT32 with the 48 bit LBA patch installed. Games and all other software worked right off the flash drive without a problem.
Thx for the tip. Will give it a try
@@RetroSpector78 Great, thanks.Here's the link:
www.philscomputerlab.com/windows-98-usb-storage-driver.html
Very nice machine! Definitely faster than my LTE 5000 machines, which I have set up to dual boot DOS and Win95. I've added a Cisco Aironet 350 wireless PCMCIA card to my systems for some wireless web browsing fun both in DOS and in Windows!!
I have a model off eBay similar to this, the 300CDS. The USB port is an oldie (1.0-1?) so it ain't super fast but it's much more convenient than having to burn single use CDs or use error-prone floppies. Listening to the hard drive is always nice as well ;-)
This thing will be nice for some strategy games like Command&Conquer, Railroad Tycoon II or Patrician III. There are a lot of awesome late 2D titles out there that have really enjoyable graphics .
I have the Toshiba Satellite 4000CDT. It contains the Pentium 2 233 MMX. They TFT is very good. No real ghosting or any kind I could detect. Runs the games you demonstrated a bit better. But nothing compares to my 3dfx machines 😄
i have an almost identical one, 320cdt, plus 3 other grey tosh's, those 3 have integrated power supply/chargers, so plug direct to mains via a 'figure of 8' lead!
the charging part of my 320cdt doesnt work, but powers the machine ok, i was able to charge the battery in one of the other tosh's ok, so the issue isnt the battery itself
i used to have same one .. i put windows 2000 on it , and ran great
Looks like a nicely built retro laptop. I'm sure it was quite expensive at the time.
I own a Satellite 4000CDT which looks identical to this. I have recently upgraded its processor to a Pentium 2 300 (it was a 233) and the ram to 160MB.
Used to use one exactly like this back in the day except with a Pentium II 233 and a DSTN display. I would take the P200 with TFT over that combo any day of the week ;)
I've had a Toshiba Satellite 320CDT for years, bought it at a flea market for like 5 euros.
Mine is a Satellite 2140CDS. AMD K6 450MHz and a massive 160MB of RAM. Also I bought a IDE MSATA adapter to replace the HD.
PS/2 keyboard and mouse can be connected both together to this PS/2 port. You just need a Y-cable (it's not a Toshiba specific thing - this was common on laptops back then).
I have the 220CS still lying around :)
I had bought a Toshiba Satellite P75 (or 90?) from a garage sale for $10 a few years ago, but I sold it because it didn't have a soundcard. Good unit though, I used to have a 1000CS 386 Satellite way back when.
Now I have an Armada 1750, from late 1998 - 366 MHz PII, 64 Mb RAM, 6 Gb hard disk, 16x CDROM (I think?) that is not picky about burned CDROMS, large well tracking active TFT screen, USB, built in sound (OPL3 I think?) it also has a built in power supply and as a result is like 4 or 5 cm thick but not too heavy. just awesome. I brought it with me to Korea on a recent trip, battery even lasts an hour, so it got some use in the flight playing Heroes of Might and Magic II.
What I sold the P75 I added a few bucks more to buy it. It's simply amazing, I love it, I recommend it to anyone!
This spurred so many memories, I used to have it's much cheaper and nastier brother the 210cs. I suspect this is the laptop that I forgot to backup my first digital holiday pictures from before it died. Copying pictures from a Kodak DC200 digital camera over serial cables whilst on holiday in Florence in 1999. It got stolen out of the boot of my car on New Millennium Eve and the insurance company replaced it with a Pentium III 800MHz model!
Amazing I have the same machine but th DSTN version which has such a horrible screen. Great laptop!
Actually, it's also just the right amount of retro for MS-DOS/Windows 3.1. The OPL3 sound chip he mentioned is sitting on an ISA connection, which means they're fully Sound Blaster Pro compatible in DOS (no drivers necessary!). I have a 4025CDT (slightly faster than the 310CDT) and it runs DOS beautifully. The C&T 65555 video chip used in these laptops also have fully functional Windows 3.11 drivers. They have decent DOS video speeds too. Put a 8GB flash card (DOS 6.22 supports up to four 2GB partitions per disk) with an adapter in it and you can get a beast of a DOS machine running. :-)
(as a bonus, if you disable the cpu cache on it, it'll slow it down just enough to match approximately a 386 20 mhz)
yeah I like the fact of having a portable as a retro gaming rig ... win98 might be pushing it a bit, but some early win95 run pretty smooth.
@@RetroSpector78 With a Satellite Pro or a Portege from about the same time period, you can also get a docking station that offers a game port for that DOS gaming experience. :)
@SNES Nes It does, but it's kind of a DOS virtual machine. Given the kinds of dos memory configurations, it's either make a PIF file for each DOS executable or you can dual boot DOS/Win9x... I prefer pure DOS for my dos gaming. :)
The batteries in these must be really reliable. I got a slightly newer Toshiba Satellite Pro 330CDT and the battery still works holding a charge of over 2 hours.
I have a Sattellite 220CDS almost the same as yours, and some usb drives do the same. There is a generic mass storage driver online for windows 95 and 98 available that may help to fix that error :-)
I actually have one of these but haven't tried getting it up and running yet. Could you possibly do me a favor and tell me what the voltage output on your power supply is asking for? I don't want to just throw random ones on there and hope for the best. I did a little looking around and couldn't find much information regarding voltage, amperage and if if its center positive or center negative etc. Any help would be much appreciated. Great video man
output 15V 3A, center positive
@@JosHageman real mvp. Thanks a lot.
Just reminded me of my old CX230. Shame it's only DSTN but I suppose it could be worse!
i have bought a late 90s toshiba satalite 4200 and i am realy happy and exstatic to play doom and duke nukem 3d + loads more
Just gorgeous!
Your computer has kinda weird slowdowns. Some games are stuttering which seem to relate with a different problem than lack of CPU horsepower.
Maybe it needs more RAM ?
Is the DMA mode enabled for the HDD ?
Also noticed that .. thought it might be the usb as I was using a daemon to mount iso’s and perhaps thst was causing it. But would need to check to make sure.
@@RetroSpector78 These slowdowns looked exactly like when you don't have DMA enabled for your source drive (HDD, CD-ROM...). If you used USB to mount ISOs, it should look exactly like that.
Hi, thanks for this interesting demo, I still have that one and like it too ; well, I would like to use a small part editor but I need midi out, so I suppose a PCMCIA card with right connection is neccessary isn't it ? MPU401 is available in bios with 330H port (scsi) otherwise how is possible to get access midi ? Thanks for answers !
This was one of my first retro PC purchases years ago. I used it solely to play Starcraft. The hard drive died. I replaced it. The new one died and I gave up on it. Wonder if I can do a CF card?
I'm waiting for an SD244pin IDE converter to come in and I will be tackling that on my Compaq 475... right after I re-band the floppy. Fun times!
If that works, my Armada 1750 is next.
I have an ASUS laptop with similar specs and aesthetics. Really nice to play these mid-to-late 90s era games, but I really miss the 3D Acceleration when I try something like Tomb Raider. The graphics performance is worse than on a desktop S3Trio64V+ which by the time my ASUS released was really outdated even for a budget solution. I remember playing Need for Speed 4 on the Trio. It wasn't fast, but playable.
That music playing is from Warcraft?
Yes it is .. noticed I forgot to add the warcraft and c&c footage :) that alone is a reason for a follow up video :)
This was my first works laptop I got in 1998, probably about 2010 ish they were all thrown in a skip (all would have worked)
Infact I still have the pcmcia network card, and not like the one in this vid (we used similar 3com ones) that had a flimsy dongle from the card to the rj45 the card I still have has a full size rj45 port on it (thiugh it takes up two slots)
I have a Toshiba satellite 200cds
Running Windows 95b no issues, like playing old dos games only thing I had to do with upgrade memory
Fix Battery
I would never trust an existing install. Always best to start fresh when driver issues come up.
Definitely use the newer driver from PhilsComputerLab anyways.
That said, these laptops are fantastic for DOS/early Windows games. My friend recently acquired a couple of them. The real OPL3 chip is a big deal!
I just found at my local Value village 4 99
Toshiba Satellite 330CDT.
Definitely get an SD mini ide drive. The lower power vs hdd will stretch the battery life out and the computer will load 10x faster.
I have a bunch of 430CDT's with various issues... the whole line tend to have very leaky NI-MH batteries for suspend and CMOS right under the keyboard, I highly recommend removing those. I still haven't been able to come up with one working machine between all of mine.
Urgh reminds me when I went on holiday with mine and fell foul of the removable hard drive where I accidentally left mine under my pillow and the cages were not easy to get a hold of at the time 🤬
you can get ps2 Y splitter cables for these so you can use ps2 keyboard and mouse at the same time
Holy shit! I didn't know you could play games on a VCR!😂😂😂
This has nothing to do with anything, but where would I even go about getting one of those green desk mats? They're awesome.
on mine a 2100CDT i'm using a Kingston traveler usb 512MB that has a driver for win98