How a VARNISHING MISTAKE Almost RUINED One of My Paintings (Tutorial on Oiling Out & Beading Up)
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- The varnish protects the painting from dirt and dust and basically works as a sacrificial layer covering the actual paint. So whatever happens over time to the painting, whoever smokes next to it, spills drink on it, the varnish is going to take the beating, not the paint. Then in the future, if someone cares, all they’ll have to do will be to remove the varnish and the paint will be intact. It also evens out the sheen on the surface and improves the colors, especially the dark tones.
For safety, varnish in a well ventilated area, right here in my studio I have a mechanical ventilation system that renews the air constantly but you can varnish outside or in an open garage.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:54 Why Varnish
01:44 How to varnish
04:58 Oiling out
08:07 Learn from my mistake
12:15 Fixing Beading Up Issues
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I am an artist living and working in France. I learned the techniques of the Atelier of the Nineteenth century and now I try to share some of my knowledge with the rest of the world, because I think that beauty still has an important role to play in artistic creation. I do mostly drawing and oil painting, and my goal is always to provide techniques, thoughts and explanations that can be useful to anyone, from beginners to more advanced artists.
The material I use most of the time (not necessarily in this video) :
Drawing
✓ Kneaded eraser
✓ Plumb line (DIY)
✓ Small mirror
✓ An old synthetic brush
✓ Masking tape
✓ Cutter
✓ Sandpaper or sanding block
✓ Mahlstick or Hand rest (DIY)
✓ Level ruler
Graphite
✓ Pencils 2H, HB and 2B
Charcoal
✓ If available: Nitram charcoals (H, HB and B)
✓ Square charcoals
Black and white chalk
✓ Sketch pencil Conté white
✓ Square Conté noir : HB and 2B
✓ Chalk or pencil holder
✓ Pencil sketch Conté Pierre noire : H and HB
Sanguine
✓ Sketch pencil Conté : Blood and blood Medici
✓ Crayon Polychromos Faber-Castel : sanguine
✓ Sketch pencil Conté white
Oil painting
Palette
(Extra-fine paint, recommended brands depending on availability: Sennelier, Lefranc Bourgeois, Winsor and Newton, Royal Talens Rembrandt, Blockx, Michael Harding, Gamblin)
✓ Titanium White PW6
✓ Flake White (or substitute) PW1
✓ Cadmium Yellow light (or "lemon") PY35
✓ Yellow Ochre PY42
✓ Raw Umber PBr7
✓ Transparent Red Oxyde PR101
✓ Burnt Umber PBr7
✓ Venetian Red PR101
✓ Pyrrole Red PR255
✓ Quinacridone Rose PV19
✓ Quinacridone Magenta PV19
✓ Ultramarine Blue PB29
✓ Mars Black PBk11
✓ Cobalt Teal Blue (turquoise light) PG50
✓ Phthalo green warm PG36
Brushes
✓ Filbert hog bristle and Synthetic sizes n° 4, 6, 8, 10 and 12
✓ Flat Synthetic brushes (same size)
✓ Round sable brush or round Kolinsky sable n° 4, 8, 10, 12 (from the size of the nail (about one inch) or synthetic imitation
Medium
✓ Linseed stand oil
✓ Odorless mineral spirits
✓ Or Alkyd medium (Liquin, Galkyd, Flow'n'Dry etc.)
✓ Safflower oil
Surface
✓ Linen canvas, fine grain universal coating
✓ For studies : Canson oil-acrylic oil paper Figueras
Others
✓ Palette
✓ Sponge and spalter brushes
✓ Palette knife in the shape of a water drop, no souldering
✓ A few small pots, containers, jars...
✓ Paper towels
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Thanks for watching !
This HAS TO BE one of the most valuable lessons an oil painter could have!... I've already ruined one painting and didn't know why... now I do. What a headache this avoids in the future is priceless. As always, THANK YOU SO MUCH for the info! You're one of the best! & I loved the gallery paintings!
Thank you so much Kevin 😊
Florent, I have followed you for years, and am so appreciative of your contribution to the art community. Congratulations on your solo show. It is well-deserved. Tout à vous
Thank you so much 😀
The tip with the sponge is pure gold. This is like the 10 % information you only get at artschool masterclass i guess 😅😀
Wow, thank you! I’ve been researching how to varnish an oil painting and no one else had explained the importance on oiling out a painting before you varnish it. This has probably saved me some future disappointment and confusion
This confirms some of the things I have had issues with... so many people give advise that counters what other information I knew about other products. Beading up is commonly misinterpreted to be a problem with the way someone is applying the varnish, when its a problem is the oil surface. When I suggest a fine pumice polish using water and and a soft rag, and everyone always freaks out and calls me an idiot. I am pretty sure that is not the case, they are the idiots, most of their solutions are various versions of crude "sanding" of the surface with nontraditional sanding implements (such as a stiff brush or some form of etching using mineral spirits) to facilitate bonding of the varnish. The community ignorance surrounding this is amazing to me and left me quite salty. Thank you for clarifying the issues here!
Congratulations on your upcoming show!! So exciting! You deserve it. You have worked hard for this. Congratulations again!
I'm one of your follower, I'm so gratefull watching every topics and different subjects you share..Congratulations for your coming exhibition. More Power 👍
Thank you for this! This is THE most comprehensive varnish information video I've ever seen and its much needed! Thank you, thank you
You are a life saver! I was having the beading up issue with my gamvar and now I know why! Thank you so much
Congratualtions on your upcoming show! It looks amazing...If possible, it would be great if you took a video camera around it and gave us a personal tour... for those of us, too far to come in person. Thanks for the beading up tricks, I've experienced beading up just recently. :)
I’m INCREDIBLY new to oil painting, there’s so much more chemistry than I imagined! 😂😂 thank you for this video, I learned so much 🧡
Thank you Florent for the video and the inspiration. Good luck with your show.
You're a great teacher, the best of the best I have seen on RUclips 🎉❤
Congratulations on your show!!! Well deserved. Wish I lived closer.
Thanks so much for your quality advice here. I’ve searched and this is as good as it gets. Have a great exhibition.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks 😊✨🙏
Thank you so much for this. I'd actually almost given up with varnish altogether due to beading up issues. I'm going to try your suggestions and come back here to let you know how I get on.
Thank you so much for all the detailed and well-explained information. I am going to watch this vid again in a few days - so much to learn here!. I had horrible beading up issues a few years back when I was using a lot of Stand Oil - ugh. Now I love to use the Gamblin Solvent-Free Gel and also Rublev's Oleogel. I will try the oiling out procedure soon and before I use Gamvar.. So glad to have found your channel.
Thank you for all of your advice. I so appreciate how you share your process with us.
Glad it was helpful!
Wow. This happened to me a couple days ago when oiling out a low key painting. I just tried scrubbing with a stiff brush as you suggested and it worked! Thank you so much.
this was so helpful. having not gone to art school--the most challenging things to figure out were how to use oil and solvents to prep, support, and finish my work, and also just working with different types of pigments/mixing pigments--what works/what doesn't. This helped fill in some gaps for me. Thank you!
Merci Florent j’ai tellement galéré à trouver une solution pour ce problème de varnish beading, et ta vidéo pop dans mon fil! Encore merci!
I have had problems with oil and varnish beading up on several of my paintings and never knew how to fix the problem. Thank you so much for the information!
Such great information, thank you. All the very best with your exhibition
Thank you so much 😊✨🙏
Thank you Florent! I appreciate you and all your work to help us all! I wish I could see your showing in Paris....good luck!
Thank you too!😊✨🙏
Great information and super helpful! I had this happen to one of my paintings where part of it covered well and other areas not. I know now why. Thanks so much for explaining
Glad it was helpful!😊✨🙏
Thanks for your detailed and thorough explanation.
Thank you for sharing this information. You're correct, it is not an issue that is talked about by artists very often and even product manufacturers don't provide much information. I've never seen anyone suggest the gentle abrasion method or note the importance of using the same medium used in the painting. I also didn't know that it becomes more challenging the longer a painting sits which is making me consider varnishing my paintings before they are sold. Very useful info!
Bonjour, Florent, et Felicitations a propos de ton exposition a Paris! Wish I could go and see it! I am going to mention it to my niece since she lives there 😊 MERCI pour ce tuto ainsi que tous les autres! Tes tableaux sont tres beaux and I really enjoy your insights and explanations! Take care and thanks again! 😊
This is pure science. I will need to watch a few more times to fully understand. Thank you!
Wow, I have been waiting to find this video for years. Thank you!!!!!!
All the best for your exhibition and thanks for this tutorial, excellent as always
Many thanks!😊✨🙏
I came across this just as I had "been lazy" and left a painting unattended for 6 months! Sure enough a tiny area was beading. This has saved my painting! Such valuable information about surface tension and other things I would not have considered. thank you!
At first, I thought, good advice. Thank you for sharing. Then, as I am working on a large painting, I experienced this problem of the paint being crosslinked. I had to re watch this video. I can't thank you enough. I'll let you know the results. Grazie mille maestro!
You've done well my boy. Congratulations on your solo show.👏👏👏
Thank you. I thought it just me having beading up problem. I use soft brushes and a lot of glaze. So happy to see this method.
Very helpful! I am currently struggling with these issues so this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks very much for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative thankyou.
Ive actually had beading in the past on a couple of paintings and I didn't know what was going on. was incredibly frustrating, ended up doing the same ie going over with retouch thinking it would fix it but made it worse.
Thank you, watching this now I know why and makes perfect sense. My paintings are the same, ie super smooth light brushstrokes and smooth surface, as well as the fact Ill also leave them far too long before oiling out or varnishing
Wow - never knew how much chemistry is involved! Thank you so much. d
So so helpful! Thank you
VERY helpful! Thank you!
Thank you, that helps me with the mysteries of varnishing and oiling out.🖌🖌🖌
Glad it helped 😊✨🙏
Congratulations on your upcoming exhibition 🍾🥂
Voila! At 6:00,He just answered the issues thats been goin on in my head today! I've just finished an oil painting and unsure how to varnish. Been searching and watching for answers on the internet all day and just found out that oiling out is beneficial prior to varnishing to revive sunken areas. Most artist do the 50:50 galkyd+gamsol for oiling out but lacking details about the fat over lean rule, and so I think its questionable. Since my previous layer mostly have linseed oil as medium. Thankful for this youtube channel !
Thank you for the great tips!
Thank you for the information especially on the beading up. I had one painting do that and ended up throwing it out. It was just a practice piece, but at least now I know how to fix it!
Great, now you know ! It's not a common topic because not all painters have this problem, it depends on a lot of things.
Thank you for this video. I have ran across this several times and Gamblin suggested scrubbing the Gamsol into the surface like you recommended. What I never heard before this video was the "reason", the Closed surface; also I never oiled out before applying a the Gamsol. I am indebted! Thank you again!
My pleasure, glad the video was helpful 😊
Looking forward to your show online!
Great helpful video. What camera gear are you using, the quality is superb. All the best and I hope to see your paintings if I can visit France when your show is on 😊
Thank you!
I'm a professional oil painter and you've just taught me things I never knew about varnish and oiling out sunken-in colors. I wasn't even taught to varnish my paintings in college classes or in my mural apprenticeship so I kinda just figured out some of it on my own, but apparently incorrectly. Now I regret doing this wrong on some sold commissions, I am guilty of having thought the varnish would fix my sunken-in colors.
What happens when you skip the oiling out? Do the paintings end up looking matte in the dark areas again over time? It makes me sad that my older work might be looking shabby 😢
Recommended too is vanishing in low humidity, a dry breezy day is best. And don't wear a sweater, dust particles.
This was brilliant! This happened to me be right before a show and I was panicking. I wish I'd known what to do then; I just had to leave it and was pretty embarrassed. (I also enjoyed that you did not have the microphone in view in this video. I often find it distracting and like there's a clear separation between you and the viewer. This video felt more personal and conversational without the mic there.) Excellent tips and tricks and with full, clear explanations, as always. And congratulations on your show! How do you find the time to do all you do?
love the gently spoken 'brush lightly' accompanying timelapse-rapid brushing! if your last layers were using linseed oil with no solvents, should you be oiling out with just linseed oil? Is it possible to oil out too much? A recent painting with a lot of layers seems to require more than one oiling out.
Agreed re oiling out; I have never used retouching varnish but have always oiled out using my existing medium. Much safer! Thank you for another great video and good luck with your show ✋🏻
Thanks David 😊✨🙏
Florent, you are awesome! My colors have sunken and your video explained the technical. Thank you so very much! Congratulations on Paris Exhibition. How long do I wait after oiling out before adding varnish. Thank you.
I’m so confused and scared to try varnishing now haha😂
I am a fairly newcomer to oil painting techniques so this was an invaluable video. To spend literally hours in creating a piece and then potentially ruining it is frustrating. I wasn't aware of oiling out pigments that soaked into the canvas and thought that the dull areas would be revived by varnishing.....big mistake.
Now I have to somehow remove the varnish to oil out.....any ideas on doing this. Many thanks.
I cannot believe how valuable this lesson is for me. I was starting to wonder if I should varnish at all!!! Thank you so much!!!
Thank
You are so welcome!
Thanks, been thinking about oiling out lately in my painting process.
Glad it was helpful !
Wish you much success with your show
Thank you so much 😊✨🙏
This was very useful. One of my paintings beaded up when I tried to varnish it. All the varnish went to the outside edges. I used very soft tiny smooth brush strokes to paint it. I am too scared to try and fix it!
Thanks this is very useful.
really helpful, thanks
Thanks a lot, it is really very helpful, I have faced this problem. 👌👍
Glad it helped😊✨🙏
Well that was worth the sub! Thanks.
Thank you this was very helpfull
Congrats!
Thank you very much for this valuable lesson. I was just trying to figure out how to fix those areas before varnishing my works. My doubt, although you mention it in the video, is if I have used liquin, although in the last layers the amount is very small, only with the finest details. For oiling out, should I reduce the liquin with gamsol as well? Or just using liquin is ok? Thanks a lot! And I adore your work❤
Congratulations on your show. 🤓
I must say that most of my paintings bead up. I have scrubbed successfully. I will also try increasing the viscosity. Thank you.
Wonderful! Thanks for your comment.
This is wonderful advise. I am experiencing the beading of oil when I am trying to create a sfumato effect. Good luck in Paris! If I could drive to come see you, I would. However, trying to obtain patent b da Italia è molto difficile.
Great video
Oh my god this is a life saver 🎉
Can you please tell when to varnish AFTER OILINGOUT.. AFTER THE LAST REPAIR... THANKS MAN ! LOTS TO LEARN FROM YOU 🙂
Rublev Oleogel or Michael Harding Oleo Impasto Medium are both brilliant for oiling out. I have an extremely smoothly blended brush style and beading up used to be a huge problem. The oleo mediums I listed are both just linseed oil and fumed silica combinations and they're perfect at oiling out. In older times they'd rub the surface with an onion or a piece of garlic and that'd etch the surface at a microscopic level. I've seen window cleaner recommended as a modern alternative. Ones with ammonia listed on the ingredients work best. There's a recipe online somewhere that's a mix of ammonia, water and rubbing alcohol to make a pre varnishing treatment which stops the varnish beading up. I've tried that and it works pretty good. Gamblin recommends a thinned 50/50 alkyd medium and thinners applied to unify the surface before varnishing with Gamvar. That works very well too and stops any beading.
The traditional way to overcome beading that has been used for hundreds of years is to cut an onion in half and gently rub the surface of the painting. It works every time and doesn't damage the painting. You can also use maroger as your medium and not have to varnish at all.
very valuable information , thx a lot
You're so welcome 😊✨🙏
Florent, Before starting let me tell you that for some odd reason, You Tube’s predictive auto text always shows your name as Florentino!!! I suppose who ever wrote the algorithm had an affinity for Italian names. Another great and true lay useful video from you. Well done as always. A couple of, hopefully, items of note: firstly, your choice of fabric (if you stretch your own) will contribute greatly to this problem positively or negatively. On that front so will your choice of seizing. Also, I have found that if you use too much of certain types of medium such as liquin the tough glossy barrier that when dried will not allow anything else to penetrate. You can test this by spreading a small area of your favorite medium(s) on a piece of paper and when dry put a devolved dye (water or solvent based) on top and after drying look at the opposite side to see which one allowed the dye to penetrate. The ones that are more forgiving (permeable ) allow the varnish to sink its teeth, so to speak, and the ones that don’t at all will potentially bead. Lastly, mixing a small amount of mineral spirit (GASP!) will also reduce the surface tension of the varnish (not enough to damage the painting, just a couple of drops) and reduce the tendency to bead. Many congratulations on your solo show. Which gallery?
Très intéressant, merci 👍🏻
Wish I saw that video a few years ago, also got the beading up issue a couple times, very annoying when you don't know. Got lucky fist time, didn't even know what oiling out was then, I did it despite the beading, a bit ugly but I was able to cover it and finish. Made some research the second time and a little sanding greatly improved the oiling out. I also use stand oil but I suspect, at least in my case, the issue was the overuse of Liquin Fine Detail. I reduced the amount and no issue since then.
BTW Florent where do you get your Gamvar, can't find any in France lately... Ive found some Regalrez but that's not the whole formula.
I am always cautious with any mediums. I use only the native paints from the tube, as much as possible with little additives. However, this adds to the drying time but does stop potential problems later on, before varnishing. As Florent said, its best to test all products first rather than applying to a current work. Good video, thanks.
😊✨🙏Thank you
Great info! Sooooo....I haven't painted for 13 years!!! 😱 And I never varnished the paintings I painted back then, but I would like to varnish them...will that be a problem? I assume I will, for sure, need to oil them out. I'll be getting back into painting in just a few weeks (Jan 2023). I have the opportunity to set up a small studio for myself...I'm very excited!!!
Thank you so much for this video, I was experience the same thing
CONGRATULATIONS WELL DESERVED!
Wuut!? Surely this is nor your first solo show in general. Still, I can't believe you haven't had multiple ones in Paris by now! Thanks so much for this information. I haven't heard of oiling out with the same medium you used, though it seems like an understandable step🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️😂
Thank you for the useful advice. How long to I need to wait after oiling out to varnish?
What pigments have you found most likely to need oiling out? For me, one of the worst offenders was Winsor & Newton's Paynes Gray, which would become very dull when dry. I don't even use it anymore. As a watercolor, Paynes Gray is wonderful. As an oil paint, Paynes Gray is to be avoided unless you are willing to give it extra care. Sometimes, Vandyke Brown can need similar post painting treatment.
Some blacks and the earths containing manganese like umbers are prone to sink indeed
I am impressed that you have found Gamsol in France. I have found it very difficult to get in Paris.
I only have Gamvar and I got it from the Netherlands actually I ordered via VanBeekArt 🤫
@@FlorentFargesarts Thank you for letting me know. I will look.
Thanks for this! Oiling out (with a 50/50 mix of Galkyd & Gamsol) worked well. I ended up applying a 2nd oiling out coat a few days after the first because I had some darker colors were not appearing as saturated as others. I hope oiling out twice is OK! Looks great now. However, 7 days after that 2nd coat the surface is still tacky, so I'm concerned. Should it take that long? Perhaps it's the Galkyd which dries very slowly?
How long do you need to let the painting dry after you oil out before you can apply varnish?
I’m new and all of this information is so valuable! Thank you 🙏🏼
Florent - congrats on your show! Forgive me if this should be obvious, but how long do you typically wait after oiling out before applying varnish?
thank you very much🙂
Great useful video! Thanks :) Do you know what can be done if a layer of varnish had been already applied, but some matte areas have appeared and differ in gloss? I suppose oiling out will not work since there's already a layer of acrylic resin, should I try to apply more varnish onto these areas or delete the varnish (the most undesirable option, obviously)? Or probably you can suggest something else. Thanks.
Oh, interesting. I had this issue with droplets on a larger oil painting that melted a bit in summer while drying 🙈 That probably caused a very smooth surface.
Very helpful, thank you! I hope your exhibition goes well also. One of my relatives wants me to make a painting for them and I’m trying to figure out if there is a way to do a temporary finish and how to ship a painting. Do you have experience with this?
A temporary finish would be retouching varnish, acting as a protective layer before final varnishing time, it can be shipped with retouching varnish on.
@@FlorentFargesarts You are such a blessing to me and one of two of my main go-to people for advice (but the other guy does landscapes). I have binge-watched you so much! Thank you for your help and I’m praying for Europe this Winter and for you.
I have a different question: what do you do if you want to retouch/change a painting that has already had a final coat of varnish applied? I presume I need to play restorer and remove the varnish with pretty nasty chemicals and that oiling out alone cannot work because the painting is already "sealed" with varnish. That was what I've learned anyway. PS Thank you for the informative videos and I hope your December show was a huge success for you!
Thanks!
Sorry, I'm pretty late because RUclips didn't notify me but thanks for the support, it means a lot 😊✨
Thank you 🙏
Most welcome 😊✨🙏
Very interesting. Never heard about oiling out a finished painting before varnishing? Why is this not mentioned in all the varnish videos out there??? Thanks Florent and good luck with your solo show!
Most people expect the varnish to fix all issues, but varnish brands all say that oiling out should be done first.
@@FlorentFargesarts 🙏🏼 thanks for making us aware of it!
I wonder if anyone has tried mixing Gamvar varnish with Oleogel to increase the viscosity and hopefully avoid beading. I’ve had disastrous luck with Gamvar but I’d love to be able to use it because the painting only has to be touch dry.
Thank you so much for posting this. It has been a major issue for me and now realized I am not alone with this problem.