@@roykisso244 yeah I know for sure it's somewhere dry that gets only minimal precipitatiom,. think a 10 ft hole somewhere in one of americas deserts, half filled with Pearl grade acid, then afterwards all the sand was dumped back on top. it could be in any one of americas deserts.. And that is from an unnamed source who is part of one of the largest organisations in Vegas and Orange. Known this guy for since forever and he's oldschool, so I take what he has to say seriously.
Detroit took care of it. No story needed because Jimmy was their problem to begin with and since Jimmy still lived in Oakland County, well, they took care of the problem. He should have taken the advice given. I believe his account of what was said and why....
I was on a work trip 8 years ago with my boss from west Michigan to the Detroit area. We had to go to Lake Orion, MI. He told me his grandparents had a nice cottage on Lake Orion, right next to Jimmy Hoffa's parents. He was staying with his grandparents as a boy in 1975 when Hoffa turned up missing. It was a pretty big deal. He said he'll never forget the constant stream of cars stopping by next door for several days to pay their respects to Jimmy's folks. They knew he was gone.
I like Michael and hes a great talker. But it just amazes me how gullable people are when they like someone. What people say in interviews or tv isnt always true. I'm not hating I'm just saying, people are like well...he said this in his book it must be true. Okay so if I go on an interview or write a book and say that I'm God. Does that mean I really am God? Has to be true, it was in the book I wrote. Franzese is not a bad guy like I said.
The amount of patience and genuine curiosity this interviewer has is completely unmatched. He deserves these interviews more than any other podcaster I know at this moment
Facts dude, like I enjoy the people DJvlad has one but I can’t stand vlad always giving his pointless 2 cents, like let the ppl who were there tell the story and all the details, this guy does it perfect
Whoever did it, Hoffa died because of his ego. It was his own fault. The only reason the story is intriguing is the air of mystery about it. He got whacked, of course. Doesn't really matter who did it.
The whole Hoffa topic isn’t as entertaining as it used to be. All the shit that has came out in the last 2 years with guys trying to get views has really watered down the subject.. especially the movie, what a fucking joke that was
@@Jay-xg9bu that movie was based off a book, which was only from franks perspective, not to inform people what was going on, if you couldnt see that youre the fucking joke.
The only reason he didn’t get re-elected after prison was because fitz was handing out pension funds like it was candy on Halloween. Hoffa actually gave thought into what he gave out. Hoffa wanted the mob to help him get back into his Union and when they said no he threatened them. It’s a sad story, and I love Jimmy, but he tried to threaten the wrong people.
Wet? Too many bodies can be found, even with cement feet. Most likely his body was eaten by some farm animals. His fame was too huge. Can’t risk other other methods.
Thanks for getting these stories “on tape” before these people are gone. It’s like old war veteran stories…..if we never hear them, they die with the person. Thank you! 🙏
I have a Dearborn COuntry Club Golf Card with Hoffa and some other Top names on it somewheres. I think it was in my Uncle Dón Adele Volpe’s Clothes that he gave my Dad. Thee Best hand me downs Ever! Circa 1974
There is probably only 2 to 3 people that are still alive today that actually truly know what happened to Hoffa and those people that know will never come out and say what happened we will never know what happened to Hoffa
The man was put through a meat grinder and taken out to sea on a fishing boat. A lot of people met that fate back then. If the mob wanted you to disappear then you were never found. They made sure of it.
I think the hit on Hoffa was so well done,by 2 or 3 guys who kept their mouths shut.None of the ppl coming out saying they know what happened really have no clue.They can all say they know,because the real perpetrators never talked.
It's amazing that average people including myself find stories about mob life so interesting because the mob people I have known are such troubled people that they are no one you would ever want to be.
@@dennettecarter4807 I have a story from when I was younger, a lot younger. Back then I really never thought too much about what my town thought of me. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised that I was considered a substantial delinquent. I am not sure what the right word is. Anyway I was maybe 18 at the time. This other kid around my age wanted to tag a long with me. I didn't see him as the kind of person I was and felt that he didn't belong. He actually told me his mother told him not to. ( seemed weird at the time) long story short is he ended the day with a knife to his throat and a gun to his head. I tried to prevent it, and I did what I could to end it. I never saw him again after that. Point is he had a romantic idea about how I lived and once he got a load of reality he saw it for what it was and I never saw him again. I guess coming from me, it my be an odd reply.
There were many reasons I was who I was then. What started me down that road. Eventually the excitement is addictive, but it all comes with a high price tag. Later in life i was able to change my life in a big way. As long as your good luck is a little better than your bad luck is all you need. It could be something so minor at the time it may be hard to believe. Going out some night when you weren't. Meeting the right woman for me at that time and her not liking my friends. Picking up a newspaper. The smallest things can have such major results. Being a little lucky vs a little unlucky.
It's been so very long since I had that life. I have to admit I missed the action but not the high price tag that goes with that sort of life. Back then the way i grew up it all just seemed normal
This guy who does the interviews is the only guy I know who's as annoying with or without his mouth shut. If he made those stupid looks when he was interviewing me I would get up and walk out.
he didn't reveal anything. he didn't say what happened to the body, who committed the crime, who ordered the hit or anything. he literally just said a bunch of nothing with a speech impediment for 7 minutes
And that"s it. "This guy" "That place" "You know... The guy with the thing" "I said ok... We kissed...that was it. I knew." They never tell you nothing. Wasted 4 minutes of my life.
@@spikesya He was a mob boss go say it to his face jesus christ he was part of that life who are u to say he is lying like u guys behind the screen man
@@fineline8348 Hey genius, almost every mobster has a different story about how Hoffa died, they can't all be true. Haha you think you have to believe every word some washed up boomer says because he 'lived the life'? cool have fun with your single digit IQ lol.
@@spikesya if you're going to correct people and say they have a low IQ at least educate yourself on what a boomer is instead of calling anyone older one of them. he's not a boomer.
@@NiePieerdol @Jan Meindfak But it's actually not. It's almost a certainty that Frank was lying. I mean, by his own word he also: Killed Joe Gallo, Ran the weapons used in The Bay of Pigs, *ran the actual rifles used to kill JFK* Oh, and also killed Hoffa...among dozens of others. Now, we know he knew Hoffa. I'd also be willing to bet that he has some idea what really happened but that house was ran though (I remember it as I'm from Detroit) and not a bit of evidence was found supporting the claim. There was blood where he said it would be but it wasn't Hoffa's, making it seem like he was confused or knew a murder happened there and tried to say that was Hoffa. The likely story - the FBI's best idea - is that it was similar to Frank's telling but not done at that house. It was done at the house of a Detroit mobster (who died in the same house of a "suicide" 6 years to the day Hoffa disappeared) and he was then cremated at a mob-owned facility that "burned down" days later. Or...he was buried at a farm they recently dug up. Some FBI think the body is at the farm. However, most think he was incinerated, as Frank claims. Finally, it's been proven that Frank couldn't have entered Detroit by plane the way he claims. Can't be done. Again, I was born and raised between that airport and the place Hoffa was last seen alive - there is no way you can fly in and out of that airport without credentials and/or being seen on radar and having to call in to ATC. Not even the mafia. Frank likely knew and may have even been the person that Hoffa noticed in the car that made him get into it. Yet, it wasn't at the house he claims and it's unlikely he was the killer. It's a good book and movie but also a lot of BS.
My grandpop had some pretty interesting stories about Jimmy Hoffa, Natale, and "the life" in general he was a highly respected president of a local teamster union here in Philadelphia, and just recently passed away, one of my only regrets was not speding more time with him and hearing more of these stories and getting a better understanding of them, he was a great man and ill truly always have the utmost respect for how he and alot of these guys operated. RIP pop
@BLACK LOVE Why in the world would i lie about that? to impress a bunch of usernames on youtube? use your thinking noodle, ill bet you $1000 if you care that much private message me ill show you proof of name and then you can google it, im sharing it for the people that aren't close with their family to give them their flowers while theyre still here
My grandfather and uncles came to 326 in Wilmington,De under Frank Sheeran as presidents,VP and Union organizers from Philly back in the 60s...We're all from Wilmington and Philly.I'm a Teamster..My dad was a teamster...Hey what was your family's last name?I'm just curious.My last name is Ciabattoni..My cousin Mike was also a Vice President..He was forced to retire bc of "embezzlement" and misuse of union funds.as well as a bunch of other stuff that was settled out of court..So idk,but it's still very much alive and well.Btw I've gotten into alot of trouble over the years and the beautiful part about being a Teamster is that you're always a Teamster and that security will always be there.
@@Dave-ur5ub So awesome dude seriously congrats on being a member thats for life, i most certainly will say through all the controversy these guys always have your back and theres always benefits to be had for being a member or affiliated your always held to a higher regard/standard, really cool your family knew and served under Sheeran i bet they have a ton of good storied to tell, also bet that our families have brushed shoulders at some point which just shows how tight the east coast chapters are, truly respectable, my last name and families last name is Sullivan if your Gpop or uncles are still with us, maybe they knew my Gpop! he just passed a couple years ago but was still very active with the teamsters untill his passing , that generation was a different breed forsure very quiet and humble but you also knew there was another side to them when things needed to get done, Cheers to the Ciabattoni family 🍻
Of all the LCN guys interviewed, this interview of Ralph Natale stuck with me the most. No hyperbole, no boasting of 100's of victims, just the Gods honest truth. You did not want to cross this guy.
Guys a rat and a liar, Joey Merlino already exposed him. Natale was a "front boss", Merlino was the one pulling the strings, that's why Natale recieved more time than each person he ratted on, because he was untruthful and most of his stories the jury didn't believe him.
There are those who without question know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa, and trust and know they are not talking. There is an understanding. So we are never going to know, that’s how they meant it to be! I only heard one person who was connected to the mob talk about what happen to Jimmy , and he said very little, I’m incline to believe he knows something, but I don’t think even he knows all the details. Those involved have taken it, or are going to take it to the grave. God Bless All🌸 R.I.P Mr. Hoffa🙏🏾🌸
It's a shame that those who know won't let Mr. Hoffa's Family know what really happened and at least a location of his remains. How can Mr Hoffa or his family have closure ? It must be extremely painful for his innocent family. It's time someone should really tell the truth.
@@titan-tm7klep. Hoffa, MLK, and Kennedy bros. were all due to mob being upset w/ them getting out of line. Many people say the gov or agencies did it, but who owned those politicians and ceos/owners??
I think the events depicted in The Irishman are the most believable, at least the way he was killed and disposed of. He was so high profile, it would have most likely been as simple as possible.
Yeah, I agree. The real estate angle, i.e., using empty homes for meetings or murders is right up the Mobs alley. Whether it was the Irishman is open for debate.
Nah, Jimmy was part of the foundation for Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ. Now that the stadium is demolished, we'll never find any trace of him.
@@motorcitymanman7711 That's what I heard - put him in a shredder, then into a concrete mix, and became part of the foundation for Giants Stadium. Too bad he never got a chance to write his bio as it could have made for an interesting book.
And he never returned No he never returned And his fate is still unlearned He defied a mob boss And it led to his loss He is the man who never returned
He was crushed in the back seat of the caddie. But he had been shot dead already. That car was crushed down to a steel square ⬛️ the size of a small coffee table. When they have enough squares they truck them to a foundry where they're melted down, and used to make new cars. Only one square had a passenger. He'll never be found. If you own a car from the mid 70s, he might be a passenger. I'm a life long retired Teamster, and admired Jimmy very much. He had a pair, was all about his Members and the Union. Stood up to the Kennedys, and the syndicate, who he loaned money to through the Teamsters Central Pension Fund for the end of their Vegas project. He was trying to make money for his Union Members by trying to charge the syndicate points on the loan. He must've not realized the mob doesn't pay points. It was a fatal mistake for a good man who was loved by many. Never be another Teamster Union President like him, junior's pretty good, but can't fill his pop's shoes. R.I.P. Jimmy.
I remember meeting a mob guy once. A friend was going to meet him and didn't want to drive alone so he took me with him and left me in an arcade while he visited. It was taking longer than he thought and he showed up and said it would be a would be longer and that I had permission to wait in his house. I was to sit in the corner and not say anything. I was in his study, it was surrounded by terrariums. I recognized them as local species, I saw he had a poisonous snake all alone and got wrapped up in how that poor snake probably never gets any contact and I was studying him for signs of duress when the conversation behind me stopped and the head asks if I have an interest in snakes. Fortunately I knew the snakes he had, pointed out which didn't fit the rest and suggested a couple of others he didn't have in his collection. I asked about the poisonous snake and said it must be hard, all animals need contact with others and he gave me a look I couldn't interpret and started talking again. I got moved to another room so they could discuss things I didn't want to hear then my friend came back. I was worried I'd offended him but quite the opposite, apparently. He even offered to help pay for college.
The house he was killed in was only few blocks away from a funeral home that had a crematorium in the back. He was killed in the basement and dismembered the remains bagged up and taken to the funeral home where an immediate cremation happened. Within say 6 hrs of him taking his Final breath, he was nothing but ashes. A crew cleaned the basement, and the rest is history. Not sure what was done with said ashes, but there isnt any body in a barrel or buried in a lake or underneath giant's stadium. He will never be found because there's nothing to find. And pretty much all actors involved are now gone so this will remain in the unsolved pile forever.
So they shot him, chopped him, bagged him up, burned him and then blew his ashes away? That seems a bit too much for something that could've been done a lot easier. With less steps and mess as well. The car crusher theory is more believable.
Facts. My grandparents first cousins are the Giacalone's ,Russo, Grillo and I was born in the 70s and my grandparents lived in Detroit since the early 1900s and they told me that Tony Jack told them that he was killed in a basement in East Detroit and then brought to the funeral home and cremated. That's all they said to me about it and around 1996 when I asked them about it but we're very short with me about the issue and they had good reason because it was right after the biggest federal indictment on the Mafia at the time . My Grandparents didn't lie period. I did hear my cousin (T.Russo )telling someone that they put the ashes in a John Carlo road. Idk
I went to school with the kid and his grandfather was in the mafia and we never believed him that his grandfather got shot in the trunk of a car . about 25 years later I saw the photos in the names in the headlines and I was like; holy shit! he was not lying!
A friend of mine who worked the case as a Michigan State Cop told me they had an informant tell them Jimmy was shot in the back left of his head with a 22 at a house in Mt. Clemens, taken to a crematorium in Farmington Hills and his ashes dumped out a rented plane window over Lake Erie. They told the pilot the ashes belonged to a family man who liked to fish and this was his last wish. The police handed over the information to the Oakland County Prosecutor L. Brooks Patterson but the informant had a long criminal history that didn't help but he passed a polygraph.
I heard he was shot and killed in a house on the east side of Detroit and was taken to Wayne Rendering for making into soap. But who knows. So many leads police could never follow them all.
@@leonardcollings7389 Here's a quote from the ex-officer friend of mine: "Yes, we (Michigan State Police) had an informant that was present when Mr. Hoffa was murdered at a residence in Mt. Clemens, MI then taken to the crematory in Farmington Hills, MI. We presented the evidence to L Brooks Patterson the Oakland County Prosecutor at the time however the informant had a very long criminal record and would not be a good witness even though he passed a polygraph examination".
I live on Lake Erie. Literally my back yard. Just outside of buffalo ny tho. I been wondering where Hoffa was little did I know he’s in the damn water I swim in today.
Mr.Natale is VERY well known here in South philly you this day in the Italian world. My dad told me many stories of the absolute chaos this man caused in Philly back in the 70's and 80's. I really believe he would know lol
Everyone knew it was something like that. This rings absolutely authentic. Organized labor got to be very controllable by the wrong people. But hey, it is what it is. Hoffa knew what he was dealing with, but he couldn't lay off the power trip.
What you love gets in your blood. I have studied murder 45 years. I stepped away in OCTOBER last year. I miss it. I am trained to profile and spot liars. I can look at crime scenes and know if it was a crime by a man or woman. I never did study any crime regarding children. To painful. I want everyone to just get along. My papa was a big union man. He totally was behind the union because workers were done so bad. I am the only one left. It is a part of history even police get excited about the old La Cosa Nostra. It is pretty amazing the power they once had. Boxing, construction, trucking, trash service, clothing industry. They had massive power. It’s s probably why THE BULL STILL SPEAKS OF THE PAST. Those were thrill kill days. But I do know the most about The Gambinos. If you were a lady they total gave you respect if a Gambino family member was one of your clients or bosses. Very respectful to ladies in sales in the trucking and waste business.
@@spazarellapoet8735 you mean WHEN DID I KNOW WHEN COSA NOSTRA DID THINGS UNLAWFULLY? There are no women I have visited with made men. You need to watch you say on public channel. charge of Cosa Nostra world of Cosa Nostra. No women in Cosa Nostra. Learn on you your own. I know 3 of the 5. Now what do you want to know I am exhausted
Jimmy Hoffa brother was buried at a cemetery I worked at as a teenager in Park Hill Cemetery, Duluth Minnesota. I remember tipping my hat a few times as I passed by on my riding mower.
This guy is full of it. _"When we were having that dispute with Ange over running the union in Atlantic City, Ralph Natale was one of the guys that Ange was pushing instead of us. John McCullough was the other. So after Ange died, we killed John McCullough and we sent word to Ralph Natale that if he ever stepped foot in Atlantic City, we were gonna kill him, and he knew we would have done it. That was the last I heard of him until he got out of jail, and he and Joey Merlino were running the mob. It was a joke; it wasn't La Cosa Nostra. They made themselves the boss and underboss. Ralph Natale wasn't even made, for Christ's sake, so how's he gonna be the boss of a La Cosa Nostra family? There is no fuckin' way it was sanctioned by New York or the Commission. This is how bad things had gotten in Philadelphia; this is what it became."_ - Phil Leonetti
Phil also shares the pov of someone who’s jealous because he sees someone sitting at the throne when he pictured himself sitting on it . I think Phil has a lot of pent up jealousy of what joey became because he saw himself running the family and when he was in the street joey was just a kid and now phils name is disgraced in Philadelphia and he can’t even come to the city because the whole south Philly sees him as a filthy rat and joey is hailed as a king in Philly.
“And there I was, eating pasta and clams with Jesus Christ and Elvis and all of sudden Hoffa walked up and said guess who killed me?” Can you believe it! - Gianni Russo
NOT for nothing u can say what you want about Hoffa but even as a non union employee we can thank him for a lot of our labor laws today and he really did a lot for the WORKING man. God bless Jimmy and rip.
@@Chipculv666 They were machine-gunned by the Colorado National Guard during a mining strike that involved a mine owned by John D,.Rockefeller, Jr. A very nasty bit of murder. @ 1914 or so. I think it was the Western Federation of Miners that pulled the strike for union recognition. James Hoffa participated and led many such strike actions during his career involving the truck drivers and warehousemen. When the AFL-CIO turned their back on the Teamsters, Hoffa started organizing everyone. 2
Hoffa wasn't a good guy! My dad had concrete corporation in late 40's through 80's. He paid the crew more than other same businesses in area yet Tempsters still out company on strike! Only good thing came out of that is as a 14 year old, I learned to drive trucks. Family members only could cross picket line. I was a girl to boot!
@@caroloneill4760 If Hoffa called a strike it was for a reason. Maybe ALL the companies had to be organized to bring strength and power to the concrete trucking local of the Teamsters. Not all the companies were as good as your Dad! In Unity there is strength!.....Charlie O'B
Thank you Sir for these wonderful interviews, we appreciate you constantly searching for the truth , that takes courage ... All things in darkness will come to light . Stay blessed.
There are so many stories of what happened to him. Who knows what's true. I heard he was put into an incinerator, fed to alligators in the Florida everglades, crushed flat basically at a junkyard by a car crusher, buried in a random place, fed to lions, and that he was never killed. I mean who really knows, all i know is the guy is gone. Just drop it already. We'll never really know the truth because if someone came out and said they knew and that they really did know, no one would believe him and think he's lying anyways.
This guy discredited himself when he talked about how he kept locals in the international, it doesn’t work that way. A local couldn’t legally separate from the international and still remain teamsters, the membership would have to decertify each company individually that fell under that local and then either join another union or create their own, and per labor and union rules they cannot do that for a period of time after decertification. If he would embellish on that, what other parts of his story are untrue?
@@mikeheavener2510 pretty non binary statement, but I guess that’s common when your stating an opinion with absolutely no knowledge of the subject matter.
Why? He was just your garden variety guy with mental issues, that wacked a few people for the westies, wasn't reliable, or very good at it, on account of his confused mind, just wasn't cut out for the gangster life but gave it a bash, then when it went sour, turned rat
@Edd 1 And a rat by nature is a liar, it is entertaining but not factual. they're all contradicting themselves. Remember that piece of shit henry hill, he said the luchesse family had no boss, all the capos were equal, carmine gribbs, tony ducks were bosses, these guys have drank so much so they cant see straight in the mirror, they can't get a story straight
@@WhySoSerious551 yea he was a nut, and?... he was involved with the Paul C, Roy Demeo & the Westies. you don't get involved w those people being "garden variety" .. there are no heavy guys really left from that true era , let alone ones that would do an interview. I think that interview would def be interesting to watch.
@@WhySoSerious551 you're so awesome & scary & tough, can you teach me to be more badass like you? I bet you those murdering gangsters would Fuck with you bro..
When I was 16, my Grandmother owned a bar and restaurant and there was a Man that came in multiple times a week he would sometimes drink to much when that happened I would drive him home he was in the mafia and Head of the Teamster and later was into politics I remember he gave me things he had received from the White House one night I was driving him home after he had to much to drink he began to tell me how no one would ever be able to find jimmy hoffa's body and where it was nodded my head and said that was good and said I would never tell a soul he told me I best not because bad things would happen if I did it was enough for me to not say anything I did break down and tell my mom and she was horrified but also told me to erase it from my memory but it's still there and t believe he was telling me the truth...
@@josephrandolph325 ya right. You never did anything like that. Call the thing corrupt. But In doubt am sure you didn't kill him or bury him at all. Likewise where would you have buried him if you were the killer? Ha.
I am old enough to remember Hoffa's Prison and Pardon. On getting Out my father told me that either he was going to live the Good Life worry free, or found Dead. Looks like Hoffa picked the wrong retirement plan.
Love your channel my brother...I've learned a lot from watching you...how to control my temper...how to run our business better, smarter...how to be a real man...keep up the excellent hard work ty you to you and your whole team my friend
Yeah they are so interesting. I believe if the Mofia was still doing what they did years ago we would not have the bullshit we having going on know. Have a few family members that are resting in peace that were in the Mofia.
My guess before watching this video is that Hoffa ended up in the nearest, deepest body of water. They had to get rid of the body before the search even began. EVERY vehicle was being stopped and searched.
I read a Mobster book called: "Joe The Plumber"...Dealing with the Philly Mob...In that book it is said that Hoffa was cut into pieces and thrown into the Florida Everglades...
there goes another version. I like the one about the construction.....Imagine the amount of cement needed for these large buildings ! Why take smelly body pieces to Florida ? that would make no sense.
@@Seemsayin One man can't serve two Kings means you can't be gay. You can't serve your male lover and the Godfather at the same time. One man can serve two Queens means you can have a wife and a mistress. Hoffa invited Sheeran to stay in his suite. Hoffa left his bedroom door open a crack. They found out that Hoffa was having a homosexual affair with Sheeran. That's why he said that line in the interview. Its code.
@@Seemsayin if someone in the Italian mob disappears and the mob says he disappeared. Not swan with the fishes or anything else but says he disappeared. It means he was gay or did something along the lines of a gay act. Why disappear cause they don't want a body. A funeral. Disappear means he never existed.
@@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391 Wow. I did not know this. Ever since the debut of the Sopprano's, I've been fascinated with with the whole Cosa Nostra thing, from it's beginning, to the 80's. I've seen every Hoffa-related thing, from the movies, to the interviews. This is the first I've ever heard that story. Thank you for taking the time to enlighten me. Stay safe!
@@Seemsayin You're welcome. I brought it up, "One man can't serve two Kings," because its important. Its a a phrase that's used by the mob. In the interview he mentions that Hoffa never was a womanizer. He never gambled. And, so on. All things in which men do. What he's saying Hoffa isn't a man. He is gay. Then he says the line: one man can't serve two kings. What he told Hoffa. He was sent to give Hoffa a warning. That was his involved in the disappearance of Hoffa. He told Hoffa he isn't going to exist anymore with that line. You can't flat out say, you're going to die. Or someone is going to kill you. Against federal law, threatening someone's life. He went back to Angelo Bruno after giving Hoffa the warning and Bruno told him to stay away from him. Meaning he is a dead man. He is marked. Its a brilliant interview.
This guy never said "how" Hoffa disappeared, he just waffled for 6mins to say: "Hoffa disappeared". What a waste of time, but at least I give him credit for knowing how to spin out a story without actually saying a thing!!
I watched this video with an old ex gangster from my town and after the video ended he told me :"Never in your life do not trust what an old mobster/gangster.We are always try to sell you bullshit!". Im sorry if my english is not perfect.
if you want me to be honest, i feel like the real guys who did it *blatantly told these different variations so they could spread down the lines and nobody would ever know what really happened*
Patrick this is one of the greatest interviews you had this guy's for real the rickshaw inn I used to go there when I was a young man across from the garden State racetrack wow memories he's bringing back a lot of memories
My parents were at the restaurant having lunch at the same time Hoffa was abducted. Additionally, the restaurant was managed by my 1st cousin. AND, my Sister-in-Law was a waitress working at the same time. All had long chats with FBI afterwards.
@@milliewilliams6418 m that is pretty much the story. The restaurant Machus Red Fox was about 2 miles from my parents house in Bloomfield Hills MI. My 1st cousin John was the manager and part owner. John is still living and living near the Boyne Petosky area in northern MI. My Sis-in-law live about 5 miles from me in Camarillo CA. I will ask her for additional details she may have some. LATER
@@hanschouwman4536 he is an old man who Skinny Joey used as a puppet back in the 90's....he sold crank....AND did plenty of time 4 it...do ur homework....much BULLSHIT flows...he needs to earn i guess....👉
I heard that Hoffa was buried out here in my community. This is the retirement community that they talked about in the movie. Teamsters bought this place after the developer died and his partner brother committed suicide coincidentally. Our club house has his apartment and 3rd floor private bar with secret exit.
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stop milking us... 40$ for an interview is just greedy
Piss off talk about a rat move, charging 40 bucks for a scripted argument between 2 old blokes,who the fuck is this PBD anyway
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@@Bumaster93 you are right. He needs to give us free content all the time. How dare he think we should pay for any movie or show. #Notpayingfornotin!
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"Those who tell don't know, those who know don't tell"
Micheal francis knows and said in somewhere wet
@@roykisso244 yeah I know for sure it's somewhere dry that gets only minimal precipitatiom,. think a 10 ft hole somewhere in one of americas deserts, half filled with Pearl grade acid, then afterwards all the sand was dumped back on top. it could be in any one of americas deserts.. And that is from an unnamed source who is part of one of the largest organisations in Vegas and Orange. Known this guy for since forever and he's oldschool, so I take what he has to say seriously.
@@roykisso244 how do u know that he knows??
Exactly this guy has no idea what he's talking about and he's a rat
True
Every mob guy 'knows' what happened to Hoffa! And they all give different stories!
he ain't under Yankee Stadium lol, Think lots of sand and a 10 foot deep hole.
Detroit took care of it. No story needed because Jimmy was their problem to begin with and since Jimmy still lived in Oakland County, well, they took care of the problem. He should have taken the advice given. I believe his account of what was said and why....
amen brutha!
@Erich Von Wachter He must be copying and pasting that nonsense all over YT.
@@nonegiven9528 AGENDA21
I was on a work trip 8 years ago with my boss from west Michigan to the Detroit area. We had to go to Lake Orion, MI. He told me his grandparents had a nice cottage on Lake Orion, right next to Jimmy Hoffa's parents. He was staying with his grandparents as a boy in 1975 when Hoffa turned up missing. It was a pretty big deal. He said he'll never forget the constant stream of cars stopping by next door for several days to pay their respects to Jimmy's folks. They knew he was gone.
It was little square lake and big square lake in lake Orion township. I’ve seen the house, fished the lake.
Michael Franzese is probably the only one I believe in anything that he says
So you only trust career criminals who made millions of dollars by dishonesty?
@@earlycuyler2295 yeah pretty much! Tell me you wouldnt have done what he did given the opportunity? If you say you wouldnt you're a liar!
@@jackrobertson5801 I sure as fuck would! Whatta life and he only served a dime. And now he's doing great too. Serving time sucks but whatta life lol
I like Michael and hes a great talker. But it just amazes me how gullable people are when they like someone. What people say in interviews or tv isnt always true. I'm not hating I'm just saying, people are like well...he said this in his book it must be true. Okay so if I go on an interview or write a book and say that I'm God. Does that mean I really am God? Has to be true, it was in the book I wrote. Franzese is not a bad guy like I said.
Give him a break he’s probably like 13yrs. old...
No one knows what happened to Jimmy Hoffa except the men who made him disappear.
and did they then disappear
@@johnwilson6707 just ask sally buggs
And the guy who ordered the hit.
and it was an inside job .... he knew the people he got in the car with --- and one was Chuckie O'Brien.
The amount of patience and genuine curiosity this interviewer has is completely unmatched. He deserves these interviews more than any other podcaster I know at this moment
I’m with you.
I'd like PBD to go on Rogan. Valutainment reached out to JRE and JR was talking about it the other day
Facts dude, like I enjoy the people DJvlad has one but I can’t stand vlad always giving his pointless 2 cents, like let the ppl who were there tell the story and all the details, this guy does it perfect
@@thomasaiken7249 he's already been on Rogan.
PBD and Valuetainment is the gold standard all these other channels try to emulate.
Whoever did it, Hoffa died because of his ego. It was his own fault. The only reason the story is intriguing is the air of mystery about it. He got whacked, of course. Doesn't really matter who did it.
The whole Hoffa topic isn’t as entertaining as it used to be. All the shit that has came out in the last 2 years with guys trying to get views has really watered down the subject.. especially the movie, what a fucking joke that was
@@Jay-xg9bu that movie was based off a book, which was only from franks perspective, not to inform people what was going on, if you couldnt see that youre the fucking joke.
That was the point of de Vito's film: it doesn't matter how or where it happened. Rather WHY it was going to happen
So Ego equals death sentence. Thats somthing very comforting regarding recent developments.
The only reason he didn’t get re-elected after prison was because fitz was handing out pension funds like it was candy on Halloween. Hoffa actually gave thought into what he gave out. Hoffa wanted the mob to help him get back into his Union and when they said no he threatened them. It’s a sad story, and I love Jimmy, but he tried to threaten the wrong people.
"Nobody will find him because its wet" - Michael Franzese, mobster.
Wet? Too many bodies can be found, even with cement feet.
Most likely his body was eaten by some farm animals.
His fame was too huge. Can’t risk other other methods.
I think his body was chopped thrown into ocean sharks probably are it. He won't be found michael said. I believe him
@Fuzzy Butkus You are correct. My father worked for the mob in A Detroit car dealership they owned. I got the same story from him.
Sammy Gravano said the same thing. They ALL know what happened to Hoffa.
Hes buried in one of the Manhattan columns cement base. Great grandson of lucky Luciano spilled the beans back in 2011 before he died.
Thanks for getting these stories “on tape” before these people are gone. It’s like old war veteran stories…..if we never hear them, they die with the person. Thank you! 🙏
Tall tale is better then calling it a story.
@@mikeheavener2510 believe me, they ain't tall tales.
I am a Psychic and I got this information from the soul reords in heaven.
Wise words - especially because that living fossil just keeled over
It’s not the same as veterans lol a lot of these guys straight lie
I have my dads Teamsters card signed by Jimmy Hoffa!!
That’s so sick
That would be cool!!!! Have me goose bumpers
Nothing to be proud of.
@@josephmc5049 sure it is, anything that was once my dads is something I'll always be proud of
I have a Dearborn COuntry Club Golf Card with Hoffa and some other Top names on it somewheres. I think it was in my Uncle Dón Adele Volpe’s Clothes that he gave my Dad. Thee Best hand me downs Ever! Circa 1974
There is probably only 2 to 3 people that are still alive today that actually truly know what happened to Hoffa and those people that know will never come out and say what happened we will never know what happened to Hoffa
Just like Judge Crater in the 1930's
Just like 2pac
@@socialmediademigod1496 Suge did it.
I’m pretty sure the Irishman is the closest to the truth we’ll get
@@jacksonsilver9705 De Niro's character in real life, didn't kill Hoffa nor did he kill Crazy Joe Gallo. So it's definitely not close to the truth.
The man was put through a meat grinder and taken out to sea on a fishing boat. A lot of people met that fate back then. If the mob wanted you to disappear then you were never found. They made sure of it.
If he’s under water Michigan is surrounded by the Great Lakes.
@@harveypratt995 well he was killed I'm Det so it makes sense
Yum... chum or lobster bait.
yup, Furio and Christopher ran him through the grinder at Satriales before the day humps came to work....
Really?
he needs a morry's wig morry's wigs never come off!
Even under water!
Lol
MONEY TODAY...TODAYYY
Lol
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I think the hit on Hoffa was so well done,by 2 or 3 guys who kept their mouths shut.None of the ppl coming out saying they know what happened really have no clue.They can all say they know,because the real perpetrators never talked.
They are all fuckin dead
yes!
It's amazing that average people including myself find stories about mob life so interesting because the mob people I have known are such troubled people that they are no one you would ever want to be.
I agree with you 💯%!! If given the chance, I'd 🧡 to meet Sammy 'The Bull' and I have no idea why!! Intrigue maybe?? 🤷🏻♀🤦🏻♀💯%
That part
@@dennettecarter4807 I have a story from when I was younger, a lot younger. Back then I really never thought too much about what my town thought of me. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised that I was considered a substantial delinquent. I am not sure what the right word is. Anyway I was maybe 18 at the time. This other kid around my age wanted to tag a long with me. I didn't see him as the kind of person I was and felt that he didn't belong. He actually told me his mother told him not to. ( seemed weird at the time) long story short is he ended the day with a knife to his throat and a gun to his head. I tried to prevent it, and I did what I could to end it. I never saw him again after that. Point is he had a romantic idea about how I lived and once he got a load of reality he saw it for what it was and I never saw him again. I guess coming from me, it my be an odd reply.
There were many reasons I was who I was then. What started me down that road. Eventually the excitement is addictive, but it all comes with a high price tag. Later in life i was able to change my life in a big way. As long as your good luck is a little better than your bad luck is all you need. It could be something so minor at the time it may be hard to believe. Going out some night when you weren't. Meeting the right woman for me at that time and her not liking my friends. Picking up a newspaper. The smallest things can have such major results. Being a little lucky vs a little unlucky.
It's been so very long since I had that life. I have to admit I missed the action but not the high price tag that goes with that sort of life. Back then the way i grew up it all just seemed normal
I can hardly understand dude. Sounds like he’s eating a peanut butter sandwich after getting a shot of Novocain.
Lol
I'm waiting for his teeth to come flying out on the table.
This guy who does the interviews is the only guy I know who's as annoying with or without his mouth shut. If he made those stupid looks when he was interviewing me I would get up and walk out.
@@d8ch338 00
I *clearly* understood him.
he didn't reveal anything. he didn't say what happened to the body, who committed the crime, who ordered the hit or anything. he literally just said a bunch of nothing with a speech impediment for 7 minutes
This is just a 6 minute snippet. I bet they will soon release a much longer interview.
hes not a good story teller for sure..like you said, he basically told us nothing
Lmao oh. You going to hell talking about this old man hahahah , I love your comment
How could he say what happened when Hoffa case will remain open till the end of time, it has no statue of limitation...
Proper title would be "Guy reveals he knew Hoffa would disappear 2 weeks before he did"
And that"s it. "This guy" "That place"
"You know... The guy with the thing"
"I said ok... We kissed...that was it. I knew."
They never tell you nothing.
Wasted 4 minutes of my life.
Or "Guy who has book for sale talks absolute shit"
@@spikesya He was a mob boss go say it to his face jesus christ he was part of that life who are u to say he is lying like u guys behind the screen man
@@fineline8348 Hey genius, almost every mobster has a different story about how Hoffa died, they can't all be true. Haha you think you have to believe every word some washed up boomer says because he 'lived the life'? cool have fun with your single digit IQ lol.
@@spikesya if you're going to correct people and say they have a low IQ at least educate yourself on what a boomer is instead of calling anyone older one of them. he's not a boomer.
“I was the last one he talked to”....”they found him months later”. Smells like BS
Seems like everyone is the last person Hoffa talked to. For me, still Sheeran's story seems to be the most probable
@@NiePieerdol
@Jan Meindfak
But it's actually not. It's almost a certainty that Frank was lying. I mean, by his own word he also:
Killed Joe Gallo,
Ran the weapons used in The Bay of Pigs,
*ran the actual rifles used to kill JFK*
Oh, and also killed Hoffa...among dozens of others.
Now, we know he knew Hoffa. I'd also be willing to bet that he has some idea what really happened but that house was ran though (I remember it as I'm from Detroit) and not a bit of evidence was found supporting the claim.
There was blood where he said it would be but it wasn't Hoffa's, making it seem like he was confused or knew a murder happened there and tried to say that was Hoffa.
The likely story - the FBI's best idea - is that it was similar to Frank's telling but not done at that house. It was done at the house of a Detroit mobster (who died in the same house of a "suicide" 6 years to the day Hoffa disappeared) and he was then cremated at a mob-owned facility that "burned down" days later.
Or...he was buried at a farm they recently dug up. Some FBI think the body is at the farm. However, most think he was incinerated, as Frank claims.
Finally, it's been proven that Frank couldn't have entered Detroit by plane the way he claims. Can't be done. Again, I was born and raised between that airport and the place Hoffa was last seen alive - there is no way you can fly in and out of that airport without credentials and/or being seen on radar and having to call in to ATC. Not even the mafia.
Frank likely knew and may have even been the person that Hoffa noticed in the car that made him get into it. Yet, it wasn't at the house he claims and it's unlikely he was the killer.
It's a good book and movie but also a lot of BS.
The last person of influence. The last contact with "those people".
wasnt he talking about someone else because hoffa wasnt found
@@NiePieerdol yeah just like 2Pac in Vegas 😂
My grandpop had some pretty interesting stories about Jimmy Hoffa, Natale, and "the life" in general he was a highly respected president of a local teamster union here in Philadelphia, and just recently passed away, one of my only regrets was not speding more time with him and hearing more of these stories and getting a better understanding of them, he was a great man and ill truly always have the utmost respect for how he and alot of these guys operated. RIP pop
@BLACK LOVE Why in the world would i lie about that? to impress a bunch of usernames on youtube? use your thinking noodle, ill bet you $1000 if you care that much private message me ill show you proof of name and then you can google it, im sharing it for the people that aren't close with their family to give them their flowers while theyre still here
@@mcman420 that’s some sort of contentious bot. They’re making derogatory comments in this comment section for some reason. I reported them.
My grandpa played golf with him. Saw a picture in a photo album when I was a kid.
My grandfather and uncles came to 326 in Wilmington,De under Frank Sheeran as presidents,VP and Union organizers from Philly back in the 60s...We're all from Wilmington and Philly.I'm a Teamster..My dad was a teamster...Hey what was your family's last name?I'm just curious.My last name is Ciabattoni..My cousin Mike was also a Vice President..He was forced to retire bc of "embezzlement" and misuse of union funds.as well as a bunch of other stuff that was settled out of court..So idk,but it's still very much alive and well.Btw I've gotten into alot of trouble over the years and the beautiful part about being a Teamster is that you're always a Teamster and that security will always be there.
@@Dave-ur5ub So awesome dude seriously congrats on being a member thats for life, i most certainly will say through all the controversy these guys always have your back and theres always benefits to be had for being a member or affiliated your always held to a higher regard/standard, really cool your family knew and served under Sheeran i bet they have a ton of good storied to tell, also bet that our families have brushed shoulders at some point which just shows how tight the east coast chapters are, truly respectable, my last name and families last name is Sullivan if your Gpop or uncles are still with us, maybe they knew my Gpop! he just passed a couple years ago but was still very active with the teamsters untill his passing , that generation was a different breed forsure very quiet and humble but you also knew there was another side to them when things needed to get done, Cheers to the Ciabattoni family 🍻
This is a million times better than any corona/covid19 discussion any day!
The Jimmy Hoffa story is definitely interesting. But let's face it.... they'll never find him. We all know damn well what happened to him.
The world knows he was snuffed and his body buried under some cement construction ? No body, no crime ?
Cremated and poured in the middle of nowhere
Joey Ill gianni russo said on vladtv he was crushed inside a car into a block of steel
@@linanicolia1363 he was dissolved in a barrel of acid
Gshock714 I feel like that a very difficult thing to do to a body
Of all the LCN guys interviewed, this interview of Ralph Natale stuck with me the most. No hyperbole, no boasting of 100's of victims, just the Gods honest truth. You did not want to cross this guy.
Guys a rat and a liar, Joey Merlino already exposed him. Natale was a "front boss", Merlino was the one pulling the strings, that's why Natale recieved more time than each person he ratted on, because he was untruthful and most of his stories the jury didn't believe him.
1:44 Finally someone else gets annoyed with being cut off by this interviewer
This host is lame imo.
I'm so glad.
I don’t think he’s getting annoyed, it’s just a conversation.
That’s exactly what I was thinking 💭 when he interviewed Sammy bull
There are those who without question know what happened to Jimmy Hoffa, and trust and know they are not talking. There is an understanding. So we are never going to know, that’s how they meant it to be! I only heard one person who was connected to the mob talk about what happen to Jimmy , and he said very little, I’m incline to believe he knows something, but I don’t think even he knows all the details. Those involved have taken it, or are going to take it to the grave. God Bless All🌸 R.I.P Mr. Hoffa🙏🏾🌸
Probably already they are in the grave also.
Ask Sammy the BULL Gravano
It's a shame that those who know won't let Mr. Hoffa's Family know what really happened and at least a location of his remains. How can Mr Hoffa or his family have closure ? It must be extremely painful for his innocent family. It's time someone should really tell the truth.
being a mob hit they certainly don't care about giving a family closure how many secrets have these guys taken to grave over the years
@@titan-tm7klyep, that’s the Life
This is about the 10th story by some mafia guy about Hoffa. What would the truth look like. All I’m certain of is he’s not buried.
@@garyz5456 went thru limb sherdder
@@titan-tm7klep. Hoffa, MLK, and Kennedy bros. were all due to mob being upset w/ them getting out of line. Many people say the gov or agencies did it, but who owned those politicians and ceos/owners??
I think the events depicted in The Irishman are the most believable, at least the way he was killed and disposed of. He was so high profile, it would have most likely been as simple as possible.
Yeah, I agree. The real estate angle, i.e., using empty homes for meetings or murders is right up the Mobs alley. Whether it was the Irishman is open for debate.
That movie was pure fantasy
...it was a Movie and you believed it for truth ??
((fyi: Bigfoot was a hoax too ))
@@daniels.2720 didn’t say I believe it, I said it’s the most plausible theory I’ve heard
He's basically depicting himself as frank sheeran in the irishman
Maybe he fucking killed him
All these mob guys saw the money The Irishman made and now they wish they were Frank Sheeran.
Frank Sheraan is a liar. He didn't kill Hoffa. He was full of shit.
He also never said he killed Hoffa. Watch the full interview.
forget aboutit willya I did. When asked if he was the shooter he said “that’s right.”
Why is the comments like this? He NEVER claimed to know the details only that he knew it was about to happen! Smh!!
And the reason why they never found Jimmy Hoffa because he's swimming at the bottom of the ocean a man like Hoffa they didn't want him to be found
I don’t believe anyone who broke a sacred oath or went to the feds
Nah, Jimmy was part of the foundation for Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ. Now that the stadium is demolished, we'll never find any trace of him.
They put him in a shredder
@@motorcitymanman7711
That's what I heard - put him in a shredder, then into a concrete mix, and became part of the foundation for Giants Stadium. Too bad he never got a chance to write his bio as it could have made for an interesting book.
@@merccadoosis8847
I think his son wrote a book.
The public draws their own conclusions about Hoffa, and that's part of making him iconic.
And he never returned
No he never returned
And his fate is still unlearned
He defied a mob boss
And it led to his loss
He is the man who never returned
" I was in the car with Jimmy Hoffa when they crushed it.... but I survived... true story, I know right, can ya believe ? !! " - Gianni Russo.
Wes Watson crushed the car crusher.
Oh, ey, They're under the dirt but, here I am...ba-da-bing
He was crushed in the back seat of the caddie. But he had been shot dead already. That car was crushed down to a steel square ⬛️ the size of a small coffee table. When they have enough squares they truck them to a foundry where they're melted down, and used to make new cars. Only one square had a passenger. He'll never be found. If you own a car from the mid 70s, he might be a passenger. I'm a life long retired Teamster, and admired Jimmy very much. He had a pair, was all about his Members and the Union. Stood up to the Kennedys, and the syndicate, who he loaned money to through the Teamsters Central Pension Fund for the end of their Vegas project. He was trying to make money for his Union Members by trying to charge the syndicate points on the loan. He must've not realized the mob doesn't pay points. It was a fatal mistake for a good man who was loved by many. Never be another Teamster Union President like him, junior's pretty good, but can't fill his pop's shoes. R.I.P. Jimmy.
@@rogwarrior1018 ba-da-bof-ah-da, the way it was said long before James Caan changed it in The Godfather.
@@michaelmarifern9541😂😂😂
He sounds like whispers.... The good whispers
The other whispers
@@valakcy4925 the one who knows how to make money.
😂😂😂
I wonder if he has a laundry he needs put out of business ! lol
The other whispers who knew how to make money
I remember meeting a mob guy once. A friend was going to meet him and didn't want to drive alone so he took me with him and left me in an arcade while he visited. It was taking longer than he thought and he showed up and said it would be a would be longer and that I had permission to wait in his house. I was to sit in the corner and not say anything. I was in his study, it was surrounded by terrariums. I recognized them as local species, I saw he had a poisonous snake all alone and got wrapped up in how that poor snake probably never gets any contact and I was studying him for signs of duress when the conversation behind me stopped and the head asks if I have an interest in snakes.
Fortunately I knew the snakes he had, pointed out which didn't fit the rest and suggested a couple of others he didn't have in his collection. I asked about the poisonous snake and said it must be hard, all animals need contact with others and he gave me a look I couldn't interpret and started talking again. I got moved to another room so they could discuss things I didn't want to hear then my friend came back. I was worried I'd offended him but quite the opposite, apparently. He even offered to help pay for college.
Good job Patrick. Your interviews are really fantastic. The Philly mob is fascinating.
Philly is very unique all in itself
Leo and Longevity,not Philly now,it is nation wide and is in the government.
The mob is still here... Just not out in the open with it.
see the ones he interviews Nuns.... tell me what you thought of this guy God.....
It wasn't about Jimi. He wasn't about himself. It was about the members be free of mafia control. Those members were all his brothers.
The house he was killed in was only few blocks away from a funeral home that had a crematorium in the back. He was killed in the basement and dismembered the remains bagged up and taken to the funeral home where an immediate cremation happened. Within say 6 hrs of him taking his Final breath, he was nothing but ashes. A crew cleaned the basement, and the rest is history. Not sure what was done with said ashes, but there isnt any body in a barrel or buried in a lake or underneath giant's stadium. He will never be found because there's nothing to find.
And pretty much all actors involved are now gone so this will remain in the unsolved pile forever.
So they shot him, chopped him, bagged him up, burned him and then blew his ashes away? That seems a bit too much for something that could've been done a lot easier. With less steps and mess as well.
The car crusher theory is more believable.
I do believe he she was shot at the house & cremated then his remains were flushed. Hence the He's Somewhere Wet.
Yea that remains are long gone. I think The Irishman was right beside him pulling the trigger.
Facts. My grandparents first cousins are the Giacalone's ,Russo, Grillo and I was born in the 70s and my grandparents lived in Detroit since the early 1900s and they told me that Tony Jack told them that he was killed in a basement in East Detroit and then brought to the funeral home and cremated. That's all they said to me about it and around 1996 when I asked them about it but we're very short with me about the issue and they had good reason because it was right after the biggest federal indictment on the Mafia at the time . My Grandparents didn't lie period. I did hear my cousin (T.Russo )telling someone that they put the ashes in a John Carlo road. Idk
I heard he is in a very wet place
I went to school with the kid and his grandfather was in the mafia and we never believed him that his grandfather got shot in the trunk of a car . about 25 years later I saw the photos in the names in the headlines and I was like; holy shit! he was not lying!
😂😂😂
What a lousy story
A friend of mine who worked the case as a Michigan State Cop told me they had an informant tell them Jimmy was shot in the back left of his head with a 22 at a house in Mt. Clemens, taken to a crematorium in Farmington Hills and his ashes dumped out a rented plane window over Lake Erie. They told the pilot the ashes belonged to a family man who liked to fish and this was his last wish. The police handed over the information to the Oakland County Prosecutor L. Brooks Patterson but the informant had a long criminal history that didn't help but he passed a polygraph.
I heard he was shot and killed in a house on the east side of Detroit and was taken to Wayne Rendering for making into soap. But who knows. So many leads police could never follow them all.
@@leonardcollings7389 Here's a quote from the ex-officer friend of mine: "Yes, we (Michigan State Police) had an informant that was present when Mr. Hoffa was murdered at a residence in Mt. Clemens, MI then taken to the crematory in Farmington Hills, MI. We presented the evidence to L Brooks Patterson the Oakland County Prosecutor at the time however the informant had a very long criminal record and would not be a good witness even though he passed a polygraph examination".
@@anotherrant6688 One thing is for sure. No one has seen him since that day at the Fox and Hounds.
Wow..very interesting
I live on Lake Erie. Literally my back yard. Just outside of buffalo ny tho. I been wondering where Hoffa was little did I know he’s in the damn water I swim in today.
Jack the Ripper, DB Cooper and Jimmy hoffa… these three has always intrigued me.
there is another one
@@Gregorvelaj Alcatraz
Can’t wait for the full interview!
ruclips.net/video/3AB0PHFoaZU/видео.html
Thanks for the upload! I’m really looking forward to hearing this interview. You are doing an amazing job! Many thanks once again for all u do! 💖🙏💖
Mr.Natale is VERY well known here in South philly you this day in the Italian world. My dad told me many stories of the absolute chaos this man caused in Philly back in the 70's and 80's. I really believe he would know lol
Big L
Lol Ralph wasn't even the real boss, Joey Merlino uses him as a front man.
He sounds like an idiot in this interview most of the time.
@@The_k1d206He ratted on Joe M.
@@JeffBezos-pb1zveven Merlin knows he was a og n a killer before that but he was also a little slow
I feel like the story of his disappearance is so diluted at this point we will never know what truly happened
Edward Edwards was his cellie and disposed of, Jimmy.
It’s hard to protect yourself from betrayal.
Everyone knew it was something like that. This rings absolutely authentic. Organized labor got to be very controllable by the wrong people. But hey, it is what it is. Hoffa knew what he was dealing with, but he couldn't lay off the power trip.
What you love gets in your blood. I have studied murder 45 years. I stepped away in OCTOBER last year. I miss it. I am trained to profile and spot liars. I can look at crime scenes and know if it was a crime by a man or woman. I never did study any crime regarding children. To painful. I want everyone to just get along. My papa was a big union man. He totally was behind the union because workers were done so bad. I am the only one left. It is a part of history even police get excited about the old La Cosa Nostra. It is pretty amazing the power they once had. Boxing, construction, trucking, trash service, clothing industry. They had massive power. It’s s probably why THE BULL STILL SPEAKS OF THE PAST. Those were thrill kill days. But I do know the most about The Gambinos. If you were a lady they total gave you respect if a Gambino family member was one of your clients or bosses. Very respectful to ladies in sales in the trucking and waste business.
@@victoriae9837 how do u know when I man or woman did the acts?
@@spazarellapoet8735 you mean WHEN DID I KNOW WHEN COSA NOSTRA DID THINGS UNLAWFULLY? There are no women I have visited with made men. You need to watch you say on public channel. charge of Cosa Nostra world of Cosa Nostra. No women in Cosa Nostra. Learn on you your own. I know 3 of the 5. Now what do you want to know I am exhausted
@@spazarellapoet8735 no women are in the five families. Period.
@@spazarellapoet8735 a woman? Not one woman in Cosa Nostra
He knows a lot but not enough to answer your title! I still love all the interviews you do anyway.
Regardless of your view on the mafia, these are important historical conversations. Wow what a channel.
Jimmy Hoffa brother was buried at a cemetery I worked at as a teenager in Park Hill Cemetery, Duluth Minnesota. I remember tipping my hat a few times as I passed by on my riding mower.
"I personally cooked Jimmy Hoffa's remains and I used a Knorr beef stock pot because it was my choice" - Gianni Russo
“I didnt make Hoffa die, he made himself die...that was his choice to die”
Lmfaooo
Now I am longing for the Gianni/Marco cooking show that will never happen. Thanks.
@@Shane661 Hollywood's best kept secret Gianni Russo in fact IS Marco Pierre White. I mean, what an actor..
@@SteveCarrDrivesAPrius John Alite should guest host. "Did I use a Knorr stock pot? Yes, I did."
This guy is full of it.
_"When we were having that dispute with Ange over running the union in Atlantic City, Ralph Natale was one of the guys that Ange was pushing instead of us. John McCullough was the other. So after Ange died, we killed John McCullough and we sent word to Ralph Natale that if he ever stepped foot in Atlantic City, we were gonna kill him, and he knew we would have done it. That was the last I heard of him until he got out of jail, and he and Joey Merlino were running the mob. It was a joke; it wasn't La Cosa Nostra. They made themselves the boss and underboss. Ralph Natale wasn't even made, for Christ's sake, so how's he gonna be the boss of a La Cosa Nostra family? There is no fuckin' way it was sanctioned by New York or the Commission. This is how bad things had gotten in Philadelphia; this is what it became."_ - Phil Leonetti
Phil also shares the pov of someone who’s jealous because he sees someone sitting at the throne when he pictured himself sitting on it . I think Phil has a lot of pent up jealousy of what joey became because he saw himself running the family and when he was in the street joey was just a kid and now phils name is disgraced in Philadelphia and he can’t even come to the city because the whole south Philly sees him as a filthy rat and joey is hailed as a king in Philly.
“And there I was, eating pasta and clams with Jesus Christ and Elvis and all of sudden Hoffa walked up and said guess who killed me?” Can you believe it! - Gianni Russo
The Irishman confessed on his death bed years ago before the movie came out. His body has never been found cause like he said, Hoffa was incinerated.
According to michael, he is sleeping with the fishes
Both wrong the mob obviously arranged for America to covertly go to the moon again and leave him there.
Billy Mcswain that guy’s story has been discredited but the fbi mob guys etc
@@marktherapper942 He was one of the original suspects and his story checks out with i witness accounts. Try again 🤣
M God I wouldn’t believe a word from any one who broke a sacred oath of brotherhood or went to the feds
NOT for nothing u can say what you want about Hoffa but even as a non union employee we can thank him for a lot of our labor laws today and he really did a lot for the WORKING man. God bless Jimmy and rip.
He didn’t do as much as the men and women who died at the Ludlow massacre tho.
@@Chipculv666 never heard of it. I'm a look it up thanks
@@Chipculv666 They were machine-gunned by the Colorado National Guard during a mining strike that involved a mine owned by John D,.Rockefeller, Jr. A very nasty bit of murder. @ 1914 or so. I think it was the
Western Federation of Miners that pulled the strike for union recognition. James Hoffa participated and led many such strike actions during his career involving the truck drivers and warehousemen. When the AFL-CIO turned their back on the Teamsters, Hoffa started organizing everyone.
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Hoffa wasn't a good guy! My dad had concrete corporation in late 40's through 80's. He paid the crew more than other same businesses in area yet Tempsters still out company on strike! Only good thing came out of that is as a 14 year old, I learned to drive trucks. Family members only could cross picket line. I was a girl to boot!
@@caroloneill4760 If Hoffa called a strike it was for a reason. Maybe ALL the companies had to be organized to bring strength and power to the concrete trucking local of the Teamsters. Not all the companies were as good as your Dad! In Unity there is strength!.....Charlie O'B
Jimmy became a doorman in NYC at a fancy hotel named Andre. Very nice guy. Hard working.
The intro to this video sounds like the intro to "No Country For Old Men"
What a movie too!
Great movie!
The "pigeon man" he speaks of was Anthony Spero.
I was interested in that as well, how did you put that together? Was there another part of the interview? Thanks in advance
@@hardbody2072 probably mentioned in another documentary that the guy raised pigeons but not in this interview
@@hardbody2072 I'd like to know too, I thought he was talking about Fat Tony (Salerno).
@@hardbody2072 he's like me.hes seen enough of these RUclips docs to know. Yeah some Bonnano guy I think no wait
The person there taking about with the pigeons. Is TONY PRO... 560 UNION
BOSS AT THE TIME..
Thank you Sir for these wonderful interviews, we appreciate you constantly searching for the truth , that takes courage ... All things in darkness will come to light . Stay blessed.
Never seen a less convincing video in my life, where’d they find this guy?
"Look, I'm not sayin' it was Aliens, but Aliens!"
Every Italian guy at the bar near me claims to know what happened to Hoffa.
There are so many stories of what happened to him. Who knows what's true. I heard he was put into an incinerator, fed to alligators in the Florida everglades, crushed flat basically at a junkyard by a car crusher, buried in a random place, fed to lions, and that he was never killed. I mean who really knows, all i know is the guy is gone. Just drop it already. We'll never really know the truth because if someone came out and said they knew and that they really did know, no one would believe him and think he's lying anyways.
At the end of the day, he was taken and killed by the mob because he made trouble with them.
No they wouldn’t drive all the way to Florida with a body In the trunk it would smell to fast
incinerator and car crush is the most likely , then killed and dumped in a lake , anything else is bull shit
This guy discredited himself when he talked about how he kept locals in the international, it doesn’t work that way. A local couldn’t legally separate from the international and still remain teamsters, the membership would have to decertify each company individually that fell under that local and then either join another union or create their own, and per labor and union rules they cannot do that for a period of time after decertification. If he would embellish on that, what other parts of his story are untrue?
You thinking these guys followed the "rules" is pretty comical
@@mikeheavener2510 pretty non binary statement, but I guess that’s common when your stating an opinion with absolutely no knowledge of the subject matter.
He was the aspirin lol can't get closer than that
Great job Patrick. i wonder if it would be possible to get Mickey Featherstone, that would be the Holy grail of mob interviews
Why? He was just your garden variety guy with mental issues, that wacked a few people for the westies, wasn't reliable, or very good at it, on account of his confused mind, just wasn't cut out for the gangster life but gave it a bash, then when it went sour, turned rat
@Edd 1 And a rat by nature is a liar, it is entertaining but not factual. they're all contradicting themselves. Remember that piece of shit henry hill, he said the luchesse family had no boss, all the capos were equal, carmine gribbs, tony ducks were bosses, these guys have drank so much so they cant see straight in the mirror, they can't get a story straight
@@WhySoSerious551 yea he was a nut, and?... he was involved with the Paul C, Roy Demeo & the Westies. you don't get involved w those people being "garden variety" .. there are no heavy guys really left from that true era , let alone ones that would do an interview. I think that interview would def be interesting to watch.
@@WhySoSerious551 you're so awesome & scary & tough, can you teach me to be more badass like you? I bet you those murdering gangsters would Fuck with you bro..
@Womb Raider i am. I'm mad that I'm not as cool as Gav
When I was 16, my Grandmother owned a bar and restaurant and there was a Man that came in multiple times a week he would sometimes drink to much when that happened I would drive him home he was in the mafia and Head of the Teamster and later was into politics I remember he gave me things he had received from the White House one night I was driving him home after he had to much to drink he began to tell me how no one would ever be able to find jimmy hoffa's body and where it was nodded my head and said that was good and said I would never tell a soul he told me I best not because bad things would happen if I did it was enough for me to not say anything I did break down and tell my mom and she was horrified but also told me to erase it from my memory but it's still there and t believe he was telling me the truth...
So they cut him up into little pieces they said? I figured it out long ago they put a weight and send them to bottom of the ocean.
What was his name and what else did he say 😎
VintageLibra "Hey baby!! I killed Hoffa! Now turn up the radio and let's dance"
@@josephrandolph325 ya right. You never did anything like that. Call the thing corrupt. But In doubt am sure you didn't kill him or bury him at all. Likewise where would you have buried him if you were the killer? Ha.
45 yrs this July well planned for high level inner circle create multiple theories and concepts are what THE planners want and achieve
I am old enough to remember Hoffa's Prison and Pardon. On getting Out my father told me that either he was going to live the Good Life worry free, or found Dead. Looks like Hoffa picked the wrong retirement plan.
Love your channel my brother...I've learned a lot from watching you...how to control my temper...how to run our business better, smarter...how to be a real man...keep up the excellent hard work ty you to you and your whole team my friend
I like seeing these mobsters in their old age. They don't always make it there.
Love the hat brother 🇺🇸💯
@@stiflersm0m193 🤘🏻😎🇺🇸 thanks bro
when the boss says Just stay away, you better listen.
Yes please more mafia interviews!! They teach a lot about life
Yeah they are so interesting. I believe if the Mofia was still doing what they did years ago we would not have the bullshit we having going on know. Have a few family members that are resting in peace that were in the Mofia.
I get the feeling this guy watched The Irishman and just put himself into the Sheeran role...
No, her really was top guy in the Philly mob
My guess before watching this video is that Hoffa ended up in the nearest, deepest body of water. They had to get rid of the body before the search even began. EVERY vehicle was being stopped and searched.
I read a Mobster book called: "Joe The Plumber"...Dealing with the Philly Mob...In that book it is said that Hoffa was cut into pieces and thrown into the Florida Everglades...
I don’t buy that at all. He was killed near Detroit and they didn’t move the body all the way to Florida.
@@krt88nc I didnt say I believed that is what happened to Hoffa..I was only saying that is what was said in the book I read...
there goes another version. I like the one about the construction.....Imagine the amount of cement needed for these large buildings ! Why take smelly body pieces to Florida ? that would make no sense.
Big richard chopped jason genova up and threw him in the everglades
Whatever happened hes gone.
Get Sammy the bull part 2
Yes please i would also like Phillip lionetti to come back in
I love Sammy the bull gravano interview
@@oddie4391 Me too
Sammy said he's not gonna do another interview
@@PabloEscobar-lk1vd when?
I just read an old article about this hit in a 1970s Playboy magazine. The theories have not changed much.
Please do a subtitles for the whole interview, barely understand him, thanks! Btw a little click bait here, but love most of yours interviews anyway.
You can turn on the subtitles on the video
@@The8976marcellautogenerated? no thanks :) I watched it when it came out, but with max sound - my ears pricked up!
Hoffa will never be found because his body was burnt, and his ashes were scattered over the ocean.
More like body dismembered and dumped in different parts of the world
Probly dismembered and scattered over the atlantic,at least that's what I heard.😉
Probably dumped in concrete, they had their hand in construction. Why risk transferring all the way to the ocean?
@@evanderramirez5526 too risky
@@Jaymz937 Yep.....somewhere under the Ren. Center in Detroit....IMO.
"Headache Fixer", "Button Pusher", "House Painter". 😮
I sure do hope that I look as good as this guy at age 85. He's still got some kick left in him, God Bless Him
God bless a murderer?
"One man can't serve two Kings."
No, but he can most certainly serve two Queens.
What does that mean?
@@Seemsayin One man can't serve two Kings means you can't be gay. You can't serve your male lover and the Godfather at the same time.
One man can serve two Queens means you can have a wife and a mistress.
Hoffa invited Sheeran to stay in his suite. Hoffa left his bedroom door open a crack.
They found out that Hoffa was having a homosexual affair with Sheeran.
That's why he said that line in the interview. Its code.
@@Seemsayin if someone in the Italian mob disappears and the mob says he disappeared. Not swan with the fishes or anything else but says he disappeared. It means he was gay or did something along the lines of a gay act. Why disappear cause they don't want a body. A funeral. Disappear means he never existed.
@@pasqualinamichelaconsiglio9391 Wow. I did not know this. Ever since the debut of the Sopprano's, I've been fascinated with with the whole Cosa Nostra thing, from it's beginning, to the 80's. I've seen every Hoffa-related thing, from the movies, to the interviews. This is the first I've ever heard that story.
Thank you for taking the time to enlighten me. Stay safe!
@@Seemsayin You're welcome. I brought it up, "One man can't serve two Kings," because its important. Its a a phrase that's used by the mob. In the interview he mentions that Hoffa never was a womanizer. He never gambled. And, so on. All things in which men do. What he's saying Hoffa isn't a man. He is gay. Then he says the line: one man can't serve two kings. What he told Hoffa. He was sent to give Hoffa a warning. That was his involved in the disappearance of Hoffa. He told Hoffa he isn't going to exist anymore with that line. You can't flat out say, you're going to die. Or someone is going to kill you. Against federal law, threatening someone's life. He went back to Angelo Bruno after giving Hoffa the warning and Bruno told him to stay away from him. Meaning he is a dead man. He is marked. Its a brilliant interview.
This guy never said "how" Hoffa disappeared, he just waffled for 6mins to say: "Hoffa disappeared". What a waste of time, but at least I give him credit for knowing how to spin out a story without actually saying a thing!!
this guy nvr had the makings of a varsity athlete
I watched this video with an old ex gangster from my town and after the video ended he told me :"Never in your life do not trust what an old mobster/gangster.We are always try to sell you bullshit!". Im sorry if my english is not perfect.
Your English is fine, & that makes sense what you posted
if you want me to be honest, i feel like the real guys who did it *blatantly told these different variations so they could spread down the lines and nobody would ever know what really happened*
sounds reasonable.
Hmm just watched a movie about Hoffa’s disappearance telling an entirely different story than this one and the 10 other ones I’ve heard.
The reality is we will never prob know exactly what happened.
But someone knows....
Patrick this is one of the greatest interviews you had this guy's for real the rickshaw inn I used to go there when I was a young man across from the garden State racetrack wow memories he's bringing back a lot of memories
Anybody who knows Jimmy Hoffa's history, will know that this guy is severely bending the truth, Yep very hard to believe
Desperately waiting for the whole discussion. I smell confirmations of the Highest-Paid Mafia Boss's confessions already.
My parents were at the restaurant having lunch at the same time Hoffa was abducted. Additionally, the restaurant was managed by my 1st cousin. AND, my Sister-in-Law was a waitress working at the same time. All had long chats with FBI afterwards.
Would love to hear more about this!
@@milliewilliams6418 m that is pretty much the story. The restaurant Machus Red Fox was about 2 miles from my parents house in Bloomfield Hills MI. My 1st cousin John was the manager and part owner. John is still living and living near the Boyne Petosky area in northern MI. My Sis-in-law live about 5 miles from me in Camarillo CA. I will ask her for additional details she may have some.
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Wow!
Was Hoffa ever at the bar? Or even parked outside?
Lol , I’ve heard more stories of Hoffa’s disappearance
than I have bedtime stories as a little kid .
I wonder if they'll answer the question if they were friends in the full interview....🤔
Don’t believe a word this guy says !!!!
Boom!
Exactly this guy is so full of s*** his eyes are brown
@@jdoggs08753 tell him that to his face tough guy.
@@hanschouwman4536 he is an old man who Skinny Joey used as a puppet back in the 90's....he sold crank....AND did plenty of time 4 it...do ur homework....much BULLSHIT flows...he needs to earn i guess....👉
Natale became the first sitting boss in the history of the American Mafia to become government informant.
5:48 who is Natale talking about when he says "the old man upstate on the roof with the pigeons". who is Natale referring to?
Anthony Spiro.
Every Guinea turns into TK Kirkland when discussing Jimmy Hoffa’s Death...
I heard that Hoffa was buried out here in my community. This is the retirement community that they talked about in the movie. Teamsters bought this place after the developer died and his partner brother committed suicide coincidentally. Our club house has his apartment and 3rd floor private bar with secret exit.
He's just repeating the movie the Irishman .
Perhaps because the Irishman happens to be based on truth?
Jim Porter its a lie that dude sheerhan did not shoot any of those guys
@@robert52354, it may not be fiction. Many novels are based on truth or true incidents.
@@robert52354, tell us how you know this. What's your documentation. I think we'd all like to know.
@@Azishome watch Michael franzese interview on jimmy Hoffa