Judgment for Depp: Can Heard Discharge the Judgment in Bankruptcy?!?! Bankruptcy Lawyer Explains
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2022
- The Jury Has Spoken! Judgment was entered in favor of Johnny Depp in the amount of $10 million in compensatory damages + $5 million in punitive damages (reduced to statutory maximum of $350,000). The question is being asked: "Is this judgment dischargeable if Heard files for bankruptcy relief?" Let's discuss!
Joined by @RunkleOfTheBailey, @PotentiallyCriminal, @LawyerYouKnow, James from Court (ruclips.net/channel/UCY41..., @GoodLawgic, John Robine ( / jrobinelaw )
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Some added context/background: Johnny Depp sued Amber Heard for defamation (seeking $50 million) based on statements Heard made in an op-ed in the Washington Post in December of 2018. Heard has countersued Depp for defamation (seeking $100 million) for statements attributed to Depp describing Heard's op-ed and subsequent actions a hoax to gain notoriety. The case was brought in the Circuit Court for Fairfax County, Virginia, which was found to be the appropriate venue because the Washington Post (publisher of the op-ed) is incorporated in Fairfax County.
Chief Judge, Penny Azcarate is presiding over the matter. Depp is represented by Benjamin Chew, Camille Vasquez, and other members of the law firm of Brown Rudnick LLP. Heard is represented by Elaine Bredehoft, Benjamin Rottenborn, and other members of the law firm of Woods Rogers PLC.
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Words Matter …. Amber said she “WANTED NOTHING “ and unfortunately for her that is what she will be left with.
Law of attraction 101.
Awesome insight❣️ Thank you for sharing!!! ♥️❤️♥️
And she got the full “culture’s wrath” (whatever she said in the Washington Post headline) but for lying on the stand
True
😝🤣😂🤣
She won’t pay anything much judge reduced the judgement to state limit of 350,000.00 per another RUclips. If that’s true.
I was a victim of DV, 30 years ago while married to a Police Officer. There is NO WAY, AH was abused in a s*xual way or a victim of DV!
I’m also an RN of 40 years and that if she was an actual victim, there would HAVE to be medical records documenting the “damage” to her. No way!
She was even seen on film practicing the ballet seen in the Danish Girl with NO CUTS to her hands, body or feet.
Had she been a more convincing liar, with evidence not just some sob story, we might have a different case!
Nice try, Amber!
It’s time now for you to “Walk the plank”!!!!! Buh-bye!
@Toni Stark - 😂 Well said! 👏 👏 👏 (ignore Amber's gaslighters! 🙄)
I agree 100% with your statement.
You know,a friend of my sister in law was abused by her police officer husband too. That is the worst place to be in because she could never get them to do anything. O hope you're ok now and away from him.
no way? Have to? love your opinion and your "name dropping" to seem more credible.
There are alot of abused victims who have no medical records.
And so much as him shoving her up against the wall and sticking his fingers in here wont leave medical damage............it would still be s*xual abuse
The standard of no physical damage is going to be a tough one moving forward........... just use a condom and cut your nails and hope Toni is on your jury so you can get off and then get off
I’m also a DV survivor and I haven’t seen a fellow survivor side with her. You’re right, there is just No way she is a victim. She actually reminded me of my abuser. This trial was hard to watch but I had to hang on to see that the jury got it right.
Johnny should pursue all the damages paid because this woman has never faced consequences of her actions because she was either spoilt or people just didn’t want to deal with her tantrums. she needs to learn to pay for actions.
I doubt she will pay him anymore than she paid the two charities she "pledged" to pay. If he gets anything it will probably HAVE to be from him pursuing it. JMO
I doubt he cares about the money. But going to court publicly I believe was a punishment enough for someone like her. If she does indeed have this personality disorders, perhaps she'll finally realize she needs help. One could hope.
Oh please , she lost alot more with all this campaign against her... they just need to both be adults and grow up and move on
Nah, he won't collect. Keep the high ground. Simply ask that Amber Heard donate the 7 million USD that she pledged and be done with it.
I don't think he needs to, her reputation is in tatters and no one will want to hire her for anything public. With that 8.35 million dollar debt following her, she will be having hard times for a while. Johnny moving on with his life and away from her and her lies is better for him than sticking around to twist the knife.
She has no dignity. She will never pay a cent to either charity or to Johnny. No matter HOW she goes about it, she will continue to blame it on everyone else, but be shown, as in this case, a manipulative liar. I believe she has no care or empathy for anyone or anything but herself. She will continue with no remorse or lesson learned.
Her future wages could be garnished, even if it's for a small percentage.
I agree she doesn’t have no dignity. All AH care about is herself. I’ll be honest I feel sorry for her baby because AH will always be none as a narcissists and people like that don’t know what love is! I pray she doesn’t hurt her baby like JD mother hurt him!
@@luisarodriguez5824 I highly doubt that baby is hers. It changes from picture to picture. Like in 1 picture, it's a baby, in another a toddler, then it's a baby again in a different picture. Again, I don't know 100%, so I won't make that claim, but the evidence of her renting/borrowing kids for photo ops is pretty convincing to me. And I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories and gossip. However, this one is pretty convincing.
I am glad that the Jurors were able to see through the lies and give Johnny Depp the Justice that he deserved. Finally he can put this behind him and get his life back. Thank you Jurors.
It's hard to not see through the lies.
@Mightymouse she should be struck off the attorney’s list from ever working again
@Mightymouse That was a very bad idea what Elaine Bredhoft did to do those shows
I am afraid, that Amber will not stop going after him
@Mightymouse Elaine is the last victim of Amber. She seams to be on her side and she is also afraid of her, so she does what Amber told her to do. Lying about others, blaming others, playing victim. Thats Ambers playbook. She should try to get away before Amber ruins her career too.
Isn't Amber Heard's statement eg: "I'm even more disappointed with what this verdict means for other women..." continuing the falsehood?
@@PetitePennywise If the jury sued her for that statement on her social media I wouldn't lose sleep.
100 %. She still wants to keep her agenda of being a DV and SA spokesperson because it’s her claim to fame, since she’s not a good actress and not likable. And if she really had been telling the truth, and was not believed, a normal
Reaction would be to defend yourself and reiterate your truth. Instead she’s talking about other women, which is arrogant, presumptuous and offensive to us women.
@Lynda Farrell I wondered the same thing. The jury has spoken and they found that she lied and that the whole thing was a hoax. So how can she be allowed to keep telling the same lie? Seems like more defamation to me...
She used the "Me Too" movement. But I think the case has expanded "Me Too" to include men and that' a very good thing! "Men Too"!
Everything that came out in court is essentialy fair game now. You're entitled to your opinions under the first amendment and the proceeding being public means that you can point to it and say it's public domain. She'd need to tred new ground to really move the needle.
Plus there needs to be actual harm, which would be almost impossible to prove in the wake of the actual trial. You can just say that obviously, people are reacting to that.
From what I get abt JD's personality and him 'wanting to move on,' he may not pursue the money, BUT, he needs to go after the money, so it solidifies that she won't dare do this malicious fraud again to him nor anyone else with such ease. Otherwise, she will have only learned that she can get away with her devious claims.
I believe she should be criminally accountable, at least for perjury.. her abuse and lies have now been proven in a court of law..
I don't understand how Amber&and her friends are not charged with faking a crime.Johmnys team proved that they did!
@@marshabass7792 I totally agree
Not proven beyond a reasonable doubt though.
@@marshabass7792 exactly they should have all had very stiff jail sentences
@@danjackson1016 I believe it was proven, Depp has always abused drink and drugs and never been accused of abusing a woman, smashing property to vent and self defense isn't the same thing.
Amber on the other hand has been arrested for abusing her ex wife out in public. She was also arrested as a teenager to drink driving, which led to the death of her school friend, then arrested again for driving whilst banned..this is histrionic evidence, all of which was omitted in this case, so the jury weren't swayed by it. Yet they still knew she was lying.
None of her photographic evidence, medical records or witness statements backed her up with the same scenario she painted on that stand, She has no soul..!!
Being a DV survivor myself. This is a relief that all people are protected no matter what.
I agree!
Absolutely.
Agreed! It ultimately showed that an imperfect victim also deserves justice against an abuser who tries to use weaponised tears and lies 👏
Sure, if you have millions of dollars to hire a rockstar legal team!
@@TheStar798 Agreed.
This is the guy who alerted us all to the penknife visible on the bed ..full kudos
Yes 👏👏
Yep, he's the man!! So humble and smart. They all are quite great though!
rob is multi talented! His video is crystal clear as to how impossible a booted foothold could not shred out the bed frame as Amber claimed! No doubt she was bold face lying! Only Amber believes Amber!
Rob, for having ADHD you do a great job of explaining and walking us through complicated concepts. You don’t seem all over the place at all! You are doing great so give yourself some credit and grace. I know sometimes the effort it takes to make it look easy is not always apparent, so I appreciate all your hard work!
As a teacher for 30 years, I had many students with ADHD or ADD. One very effective tool for them is graphic organizers to help with comprehension and understanding of complicated concepts. Looks like Rob likes to use them. It helps with understanding for both parties.
Elaine was just interviewed by Savannah (cBS, I believe) and she said the reason JD won was because the Court wouldn’t admit their “tons” of evidence proving the case. Isn’t this throwing the Judge under the bus? And, Isn’t that unethical for an attorney to do this?
It would be malpractice if they had evidence relevant to the case and they didn't present it.
This is her twisting the story for the court of public opinion.
Sad that an attorney would try to cover up all the bs, from the "I'm trying I'm trying to blaming the patient judge 🙄
A C-grade team defending a super Alist narcissist
She blamed the judge, she asked the jury, she blamed Johnny & his team, she blamed social media, she blamed the cameras, she blamed spectators in the room, etc.. The one person she didn't blame, that was solely responsible for all of it, was Amber. It was Amber's fault and Amber's lies that cause all of this and it was Amber's testimony/lies that made her lose, nothing and nobody else is to blame but Amber. .
She ran outta of court...and no one.was outside...guess her pledge to pay the lady was outted...then she IMMEDIATELY releases a statement SAYING THE SLANDER ALL OVER AGAIN...
GIRL YOUR GASLIGHTING DAYS ARE DONE
Yea , I wondered if she can still keep up the slander like that . Seems sketchy .
I’m astonished at how many people think she’s been done down, given her obvious lies and abuse of him. But people will believe what they believe.
I speculate Camille is sitting on her Throne forming new arguments after a few megapints. If I’m Ben Chew I’d enjoy a few megapints and then get her. She can’t keep getting away with this. It must end.
Oh there were people out there…yelling and telling her she is a LIAR! 😂😂😂
she wouldn't even notice being called a lier too many other people doing it to her ... maybe if they had been shouting bad actor or JD got u job in Aquamaaaan
She forced the CEO of Warner Brothers to testify for the studio, good luck for her future in Hollywood
she also harassed disney
They may rather pay her the $2M contractual price (for aquaman 2), and not use her in their film. More economical to pay her out, then lose big on the box office. She will get her money but no job. It's termination money.
I’ll bet the number that was missing was the zero dollars for Amber’s punitive damages! They may have thought leaving it empty was the same as “0”!
Agreed
That was my thought as well. The jury left the punitive blank and had to go back and add the $0
I agree!
good point!!
But I thought the judge said something like ‘if you award punitive damages you have to award compensatory damages’?
Judge Penny was absolutely amazing!! And even further proof of that, is to see how they did a standing applause at the end of the trial 👏 (end of arguments) the entire court room extended their sincere thank you's!! She even mentioned very humbled "oh um thats a first" 🥰🙏🏼
Have you heard about the court reporter Judy getting bad stuff on social media. Law and Crime site has a clip about it
Amber didn’t clap.
@@chrissyg9576 🤯🤬💩
Shes just a miserable young THING!! At this point she doesn't deserve a title of a Young lady!!
JD needs a restraining order to keep Amber away. If Amber sees JD around, she will claim that he did something to her.
VERY good point! If she does have all of those personality disorders, she is going to double down and keep trying to destroy Johnny for the rest of his life. She will use her clueless, ignorant proxies (like the poor NY art agent/mutual 'friend' she used to get Johnny to meet with her after the TRO). She will NEVER give up.
He needs an RO on Eve Fartlow as she is the one that is constantly trying to rouse the psycho masses that even after the court case showed the world the truth still believe Lumpy Turd.
I agree and I worry that ambsr will try to work her way back into johnny life. He needs to get a permanent restraining order from her.
I agree, she's already coming after him. She's obsessed with Johnny.
@@TheStar798 she's using Elaine as we speak.....
The ten million isn’t anywhere near what Mr. Depp lost.
It was never about the money for Depp. He was suing Heard for defamation.
That is my feeling too.
I agree and I think she deserved 0. Vicki
In his own words when on the stand, "No matter the outcome of this trial, I’ve already lost." 😔
@@MinaTee0 exactly 💯 👏 😮💨😔
I disagree on the "secrecy" of the punitive cap rule They should be allowed to award what they choose and if there is a punitive cap, then they need to know that.
Well now the entire world knows, they will have to change it lol.
I agree. To borrow a turn of phrase, you can't play the game if you don't know the rules.
True! A cap that can't be told to the jury ahead of time is beyond stupid. Then what's the point of giving jurors a free hand to set the amount when the amount cant be applied. It takes away jury's consideration of the severity of the wrongdoing deserving of a reciprocal punishment.
Agree. I wouldn’t be happy if I was a juror and found that out after the fact while I was thinking he was actually going to be awarded that $.
If they know there is a cap they may award a lower amount for punitive damages and they may add more to compensatory because there is a cap. I guess that’s why they aren’t told.
I am soo frustrated the Jury found Walden’s statement as Malicious (outside of agency issues) when they gave him a sweep that she was malicious and fraudulent. They could have said the statement wasn’t proven (although she submitted false evidence with edited photos and duplicate wine spill) without it being malicious
yeah, I thought that too because with all the lies on top of lies surrounding all the other lies with her, it was a perfectly reasonable assumption that the scene was staged. I mean, c'mon, she faked a bruise and a cut lip and THEN called the media to tip off the paparazzi to get photos so..... totally plausible.
The reason behind was not that the incident didnt happen (two different calls to the police etc etc )... it just states that the opinion that AH planned it with her "friends" was false and therefore defamation.
It’s because the police were actually called and done so by someone other than AH so the jury found that it wasn’t true she did that as part of a “hoax.” They didn’t find for the other two which were far more important because it shows the jury completely rejected the dv claims. The two mil she was awarded, she won’t see that money it will be deducted from the 15 mil she owes JD. Also if she does appeal she will have to put down 10 mil plus lawyer fees. So she’s done no matter what.
Some of the lawtube heads have said they reckon that they couldn't all agree on that point so there was s bit of compromise on that part of her counter claim which is ultimately better than a hung jury.
@@ashbash635 I don't think it is because someone else called the police, the statement said she used her friends... but the statement said they did phone call 1, got their stuff together, then did phone call 2. It was pretty clear from the evidence that the two phone calls were close together in time, and they couldn't possibly have done what he said in the time gap. That one statement was too specific as far as speculation goes, and therefore obviously false. I personally may not have blamed Johnny for the agency part, but the falsehood of the statement is definitely the big difference.
This trial in Johnny depp win made me cry happy tears. I'm a survivor of abuse and still am and this made me happy because now I can tell my story
same My ex hubby used to abuse me I listened to both sides nothing amber said made sense, like she was making more stuff up as she talked . she must have some magic make up as nothing i did hid my broken nose as well as she supposably did
I’m so sorry you went through that. I was abused by my father for most of my life and I felt overwhelming gratitude that JD got the justice he deserved. It gave me hope that more people will believe victims
You could have said it all this time little one. But society has taught you that many don't want to hear or care. As a result you didn't feel you had a voice. It makes my heart happy when I hear you say that now you can tell your story because it means you have found the freedom to use your voice. You will still find those who will try to silence and shame you. Don't let them get away with it. Diana Gabaldon, author of the Outlander series wrote a line I think is appropriate here and now. " Truth carries a weight that no lie can counterfeit. " The truth of domestic violence being told can't be hidden. And someone perpetuating a lie of the same subject will always be found out. DV, SA, and DA marks those who have survived it. It is glaringly obvious to some, but easily seen by all who have joined that horrible membership. We will be here for each other.
Yes, I'm right there with you. This is not setting women back. If you tell the truth then you will he believed, as she was until she was proven to be completely and utterly untrustworthy in every way. She needs to stop telling people that she is a victim and stop trying to speak for true victims. She's pathetic and manipulative. I wish she'd go away.
@@Jesswithlessstress I agree with you on what you have posted. Now, with thought, I'm almost inclined to thank her. Without her lying, obnoxious, made up BS it may have been years longer before we were able to have the conversation of men being victims openly and have the information be believed by those who have never suffered the damages of domestic violence. While I deplore what she has said and done, by having such a clear cut example of what truth is, it may have been easier for the average person to see and understand what all is involved and occurs in the nightmare world of DV. If we have to put up with her and her unethical and lying lawyer let us find what is good out of the nightmare. She gave us clear evidence that will hopefully take away any doubts or questions of those confused about what DV & SV can involve, who can be a victim, and why it is so incredibly hard for some to escape. How many times have we heard people question, "Well, if she was being abused why didn't she just leave?" That question haunts many survivors, male and female. The average person sees DV as a simple black and white picture of physical damage. They don't see or understand the subtle nuances of pyschological, emotional, and even spiritual abuse. Those people ignorant of the foundations of abuse never consider that the victim is not only trying to escape injury, but also to escape the control and power of a twisted mind. Few ever stop to consider that it is not simply a weak willed person not strong enough to find their way out of the maze of pain and anguish, but instead being unable to escape imprisonment of by a person who violates them physically, mentally, and emotionally every day using their own mental illness as the weapon of choice to inflict that pain and punishment. Like it or not, Amber Heard, with her obvious lies, made many sit up and realize that they are smart enough to know when they are being lied to and manipulated. Unfortunately, Johnny was the person who endured the damage inflicted. But maybe it had to be him, or someone like him of enough celebrity and status in the world to be recognized, kind, loving, and compassionate enough to be believed, and with the quiet power it took to endure 6 years of torture and still have the strength to expose himself publicly, to teach the world that men can be victims too. I gratefully and respectfully thank him for doing that. He didn't portrait himself as someone standing up for all men, but that is exactly what he has done. His quiet strength is awesome and I pray he never has to use it again. But as Amber, hopefully, tucks her tail and crawls into the anonymity of a life where she will, God willing, never hurt anyone else, I will give credit where credit is due. Amber taught us more about recognizing a liar, an abuser, and manipulator then might ever have been done before. I hope the world never forgets this lesson. But the light has now been shown on the ugliness of DV/SV, and the reality of male victims. As long as we continue to focus that light on that problem, and work together to learn, educate, support, and report, it is another form of evil that won't be able to hide in the darkness and claim more victims.
Yep people forget Phil Hartman but should never have been forgotten - there are crazy or sick women out there and men need to be protected equally - all people protected - women, men children, trans, race etc now, then and always.
@@GCBH80 That's so sad. I'm sorry for your dad, how old is he? Are they still married?
@@GCBH80 So sorry your dad went through that, but glad you had the epiphany and you will all be able to begin to process and heal. Good luck to all of you! ❤️
@@GCBH80 So was my Dad ( and me) so it triggered me as well - he got away from her at the age of 82, bought himself a pretty house and now lives peacefully near me and my husband.
Phil Hartman coworkers would question him about bruises and scratches on his face. He lied about them and his personality changed
@@GCBH80 Your dad is blessed to have you!
I am a Canadian Insurance broker. The intentional defamation is absolutely EXCLUDED on every liability policy including a homeowner policy. I represent insurance companies from all over the world. Errors & omissions insurance coverage is kinda spelled out in the name of the policy. She didn’t just make an error she deliberately wrote the op-Ed. She could sue the lawyer who read & ok’d the op-Ed, his E&O policy would pay up to its limit, $5mill is a common policy limit on E&O, although if he generally handles high earners he may have say $10mill (very pricey premiums though & best insurance for businesses/law firms or whatever company is to have strict risk management-risk limiting internal practices).
No because she re-tweeted it so the lawyer is no longer liable for the fact that she took ownership of the article....which they may have cautioned her against.
The lawyer did not see the headline though did he ?
TY, Kathy. Your kindly clarification helped. The question about HOI being used to erase debt incurred by failed suits between unrequited lovers, the disgruntled jilted, the scorned discard troubled me greatly. The rumoured situation sounded so rife for scam. Seems as if this crazy-like-a-fox 🦊 atmosphere of this tort has hurt my brain. 🤪
Forgot completely that moral fundamental rule behind 🏠 owner insurance contracts, the reason why arsonists do not collect when they burn🔥 down their own house for fraudulent financial gain, meth labs are not replaced when they blow up during the cooking process ♨️ , grow ops destroyed by moisture and mould or set ablaze by faulty wiring from dealer's scarfing electricity⚡ are not rebuilt, but are denied insurance payout. There is an old-fashioned thing called morality, linked to a thing called ethics, rather out of style in our Age of NARCISSISM.
Was imagining the Insurance industry going belly up from the demands of the indignant Pussycat Posse pursuing their generous guide to the marvelous world of SEX, DRUGS and ROCK'N'ROLL, their mentor Marilyn Manson a.k.a. Brian Hugh Warner. Hmmm, can one feel Buyer's Remorse 🤔 when one has not paid for intangible assets accrued, like FAME , SOCIAL STATUS, a secure PEER PLACEMENT among the cool kids, Kathy? 🙂😉
@@pearlwogkoklol6700 You get it, Pearl. Kp
@@mom4nz610 You’re right, she couldn’t sue on the basis that the lawyer said DON’T or ONLY use these narrow perimeters & she didn’t listen - went ahead & published what she or others wanted, regardlessly. I think she’s going to sue all the lawyers, including, possibly, the lawyers at the ACLU & Washington Post. This morning Elaine, during her TV morning show interview said Amber doesn’t have $10.3million, but that doesn’t mean she’s penniless or that a friend with deep pockets or group of man hating feminists (I am in the equality including “taking responsibilities equally” camp of feminism & have met some of the man haters) might, on principle, fund the law suits I think she’s going to pursue. Amber doesn’t strike me as someone who will let this go. I believe the mental illness she has is driving many of her decisions. I truly hope she gets long term therapy & controlled medication for her illness, for her sake, Whitney’s, her close friends & daughter’s sakes.
I am a DV survivor. My case was criminal and when I was removed from his reach he used phone (landlines) to stalk, threaten, and harm me (and my family) for years. My abuser thought because he dialed from outside the county using payphones he was outside the reach of the law. He felt protected. I suffered for years while stalking laws caught up to what I lived, police were able to get warrants to collect evidence, and when the case was heard years of abuse were clipped away because nothing could be used prior to laws being in force. Now we have the internet and social movements - I felt AH was using the media to threaten, stalk, and harm JD. Instead of payphones, Amber used the media and when offered a nonprofit ACLU to continue her attacks. As I listen to this I am disheartened that JD has little to no help from the courts to help him be free from AH's attacks. I truly believe she thought she was outside the reach of the law. What happened during and after the divorce troubles me so much. JD had one of the finest attorneys in CA. Begs the question are there missing laws in CA that allowed AH's attacks to snowball and cause so much harm? This VA case demonstrated AH manipulated people and the ACLU and she thought if she confined herself to personally using the internet she was protected. I watched this trial hoping to find laws existed now to protect a victim from being stalked via the internet/media. It is so sad to learn victims only have legal recourse - there is no way to stop someone from lying even if there is a case that proved a jury found the claims defamatory. Most victims don't have the deep pockets JD does. For me - this case highlights where PRIVACY laws need to focus. We need to be an OPT IN not an OPT OUT culture/society.
I'm so happy For JD that he won. It is a shame that most men don't have the money, time and support to seek and obtain justice for false allegations that are so common like he does.
Also, JD was lucky there were no kids in the mix, as her hand would've been strengthened immeasurably, as she & her lawyers would have shamelessly used them, like Angelina Jolie did.
I have got my fingers crossed that he does not let her off the hook with that fine. She should be made to pay it all to the children's charity.
No mercy. No quarter. Every cent.
I’ve been waiting on your take on this all day. I appreciate your professionalism, and your insights. I have been following you, Emily Baker, Popcorned Planet, Runkle, and the Body Language guy during this. You’ve done great journalism and I appreciate all you’ve done sir!
Ahahahah don't do Spidey like that. His channel's name is "The Behavioral Arts"
@@erayozsaray3526 I love ur name mate,
There is another youtuber called the body language guy who also does behavour analysis on the JD/AH case
@@zac4912 thx for the kind compliment. That is completely my bad then :)
You should watch the behavioral arts dude. He is much more neutral and compelling than the body language Jesús Enrique rosas
I've enjoyed watching these two. I like Frank & Bruce Rivers, too. All these people have done an awesome job
Please give yourself a break. You will learn the computer stuff as you go. You're doing a great job. Great people pop in /out and you're easy to listen to. I learn a lot listening to you and Runkle, etc. I like you both
I have never in my life watched a lawyer review channel (didnt know it was a thing) but finding you and Runkle has been such a blessing. I think because you are both so genuine and keep to your values in how you conduct yourself and your channel. No drama, no backbiting, no fame grabbing, just genuine interest, friendship between you both, respect for others and fair informed sharing. Thankyou. I will keep watching just for that :-)
Check out Hoeg also, if you haven’t. These guys are so good. I just found lawtube as well and I feel like I found my space. (I’m not a lawyer)
Check out Emily D Baker. She is a badass lawyer who streamed everyday of the trial.
Yes in addition to these Emily D Baker is awesme
I nearly spat my coffee out when Runkel said she should move to the UK, love you Runkel but no thanks we don't want her here unless it's in prison for perjury
She would do that to hound him!
I was surprised at how well the jury sorted out the issues and determined allocation of damages.
It was surprising, but they were very thoughtful.
Amber now lives in yucca Valley, CA, she sure mentioned a few things about ca law and that she was mad that the case was tried not in the state her and johnny both I've in.
Amber now lives in yucca Valley ca near palm. Springs.
I agree except for the Waldman part.
Yeah there was no way they could take her claims seriously and award her a judgement on the dv considering all her lies. She lost this case herself. Only her. Had she just owned it and admitted to her part and the fact that she went the route she did with tmz to win the pr war. But she just would not admit anything that would make her look bad.
No. She isn’t married.
Plus she got a lot from Johnny.
She asked for several homes & got them & also several cars that Johnny let her have because he just wanted to end anything to do with her.
And she took lots of expensive furniture & paintings & furnishings from Johnny.
She asked for many things.
And he paid all her debts- a lot
The 10million are based on an intentional tort that was found to be "intentional" and "malicious." It is therefore not properly discharged in Bankruptcy. The punitive damages were properly scaled back to $350k under Virginia law, which has put a cap on punitive damages. The punitive damages are also not properly discharged. AH does get a set-off of 2million for the statements of JD's attorney. Total damages of $8,350,000. Further, even if she tries to make a run at BK, she would first have to list, under oath, all her assets, and would only be able to keep the amount scheduled by the BK Court.
@@artelisx it’s true she has to put down the compensatory judgement plus lawyer fees for bond before she can appeal. It’s a way to stop appeals from being dragged out for years as a way to get around paying. So she has to put the bond down. If she files bankruptcy I better not see her put down a 10 mil dollar bond, if she can’t afford to pay JD then she can’t afford to pay for an appeal.
What does "Not properly discharged" mean in terms of bankruptcy?
@@ytkimberly4629 means it does not go away in bankruptcy
Thank you for actually talking about the way ADHD effects so many of us and not cutting that out!
In my experience with a narcissist I would assume that the spin would be “he’s taking everything from me because now I’m bankrupt“ so it’s not totally out of the realm that she would do that in my opinion.
I have won two cases and the very next day they claimed. Bankruptcy
That’s exactly what she will do, though I don’t know if the judgement is covered under bankruptcy. She clearly has money, she just bought a new house. She’s wearing fancy designer clothes. She has a top legal team. She’s paying for all those things somehow. But she will spin that JD has made her broke she has a baby poor amber blah blah blah. There are the results of her actions. So if she comes out with that the public backlash will not be pretty.
Johnny wasn’t in this for the money so I can’t believe he will finish her financially.
I hope Ms Hurd gets the help she needs and her daughter doesn’t become the apprentice narcissist.
Her daughter will be a victim , there have been so many people on RUclips comments who had a parent who was one . Not me , thank God .
She definitely won't pay. OJ didnt pay up. I believe JD wont collect either.
She's completely destroyed - credibility kaput, career going south - she isn't hireable anymore by the big film makers.
He won't want to see her ruined beyond redemption, I suspect.
She may pen a book or do something controversial to get income, but so long as she stay clear of smearing him or defaming him I believe he will leave her alone to get on. She's a sore loser and probably will regurgitate this ad infinitum but given Johnny knows she suffers histronic personality disorder so can't help herself, likely he will ignore her effort to claw back face. He did love her and so live and let live, let bygone be bygone.
He should make her pay because if not she will use her money to harm him.
"Family" bibles were not just called that for the sake of the family only having one. Family bibles usually had pages set aside containing family genealogical records, so a Bible might be expensive (and usually were until cheaper methods of printing and binding were developed, which was another excellent reason to treasure the Bible if inherited) but depriving a family of their family Bible was basically depriving them of their legal records.
And all the notations in the margins by ancestors! Just yesterday, I was looking at my selves and shelves of books, which include an early Uncle Tom's Cabin and a few other treasures, thinking how I love my books, and how it hurts when I notice one missing. And then I thought of how I'd draw blood, should someone steal my family Bible!
Now I have to ask: did that awful woman destroy JD's family Bible?
So interesting! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for this explanation, did not know any of this before
THAT is fascinating, I never knew that!! I love the Bible, but have never come across that fact.. so cool♡
Absolutely!
All respect to the jurors and court!
I started to watch live and had to step away but came back to finish it out. I’ve really enjoyed the coverage of the trial but I’ve especially enjoyed learning more about the workings of the law and jury trials from all of you! Thanks for all the work and time you have put into the last 7 weeks. Can’t wait to watch more from you, Ian, and many others on Lawtube.
Johnny Depp did all those things to Amber and he got away with it because he's got a lot of money of course he perpetrated violence against her of course he did he drive whiskey and took cocaine of course he was a different person when he did that naturally he abused her I certainly believe her too I don't know what's up with all these people this lying for him I just think it's just horrible it's a travesty of Justice
Yes me too. Was an interesting process to learn what is involved in a trial.
Maybe the award of 15M was equal to the 15 months they were married!
That would be perfect
In my eyes, JD won the moment he brought this case to light. All he wanted was to tell his side and clear his name (which Disney and Warner bros. didn’t care to hear years ago)..and he did just that. You can tell his stories and his witness stories were genuine, whereas AH and her witnesses were scrambling and pointing fingers. She and her team made this about ‘women and DV’ and never had mention of ALL survivors..not just women. Not saying he’s 100% innocent.. however, She also abused this man. But instead of taking acknowledgment, she smirked, laughed, and continued to put her story ahead of his. In the end, I wish them both well and hope they can finally move on and continue on with their careers.
It’s finally over. The evil has been defeated ☺️
I didn't find out that I had adhd until I got diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. I was put on adderall for debilitating fatigue from the MS. I told my doctor how much it cleared up my head. I could plan to do things and then get them done a lot easier.
Normally I would just start doing things then get distracted with trying to do other things and end up with like 5 things in my hands having not actually finished anything. I had trouble speaking and would get confused trying to think of the words I wanted to say. I was overwhelmed by everything.
The medication helped with so much, but I assumed it was just the brain damage from the MS causing the problems. My doctor figured it out though and assessed me for adult adhd. I've been trying to learn everything I can so I can hopefully improve.
I love your views about professional jury vs. Lay person jury. Ive been called to jury duty twice. I never actually sat on a jury, but I was so nervous about being selected. I have adhd too. I was worried I might not be able to concentrate. I also feared I may not fully understand the applicable laws and get something wrong. Your explanation on how this is really understood and even expected in a jury really helps me feel like I can do a decent job if I ever do get selected. Thank you!
I’d be really interested to see how Elaine’s media tour straight after the verdict and now Ambers’ interview tour will affect her appeal case. Because she is continuing the “woe is me” tale and stating she was a victim of DV and the whole trial was unfair.
I have never seen any film with AH in, now I have seen her in court, that's enough to put anyone off.
I still can’t believe how much your channel has blown up in such a short amount of time. Over 1 million views on your first video is almost unheard of 🤣 love hearing your views on things keep up the good work I hope your channel keeps going strong
Isn't it funny how many of us who have suffered through and survived, DV, SA, and SV end up in the medical fields and legal fields. Somehow, it just seems appropriate.
That baby is now a shield. She knows what she is doing.
Just finished watching @ 5:11 am. You guys were great! Been following Emily for ages and found Rob and Ian through her. Loved the panel set-up as got different POVs and explanations. Now, I’m following enough lawyers to make a dream team law firm.💜
It's amazing to hear and see so many comments on ADHD! I have ADHD and know it only for 3 years now, so largest part of my life I was oblivious and suffering from it without knowing what it was that made life so hard. I have a great career but it is sometimes almost an insurmountable uphill battle. It is heartwarming to see so many RUclipsrs who break a lance for and prove the added value and ability to find your own way in life despite or even thanks to ADHD. Entirety off topic but thank you so much for opening doors and maybe burning down the taboos for some still (I for one still suffer from my self inflicted wound of treating it in the dark). So thank you so much! Next to this very important victory of JD to rehabilitate his name and clean his slate of this horrific slander, this is the next major milestone , for me anyway. So thank you!!
Do you know which law tubers take ADHD meds? I have ADD and I can only function on meds. I know Runkle doesn’t due to side effects. Rob? Emily?
@@deecee7042 Amily Baker, Runkle and Rob (I thought) have ADHD. Wether they take medication I don't know. There are basically 2 types of medication: dexemphetamine and methylphenidate. But you really need a trial period with your doctor to figure out which is best for you, there is no one glove fits all.
I need to too, and I switched once due to the rebound that killed me.
@@jwvandegronden what is the rebound?
Mental Health has a lot of stigma with it. It is getting better, at least here in NZ, but still a lot to do. I have a dear family member with ADHD and they do struggle.
Regardless of who has what and needs to take whatever…I at 58 acknowledge ADHD after most of my life feeling like I was stupid or broken and have learned coping skills and given myself a break about it all….✨🥰💙✌🏽🦋✨
Have appreciated the commentary throughout this trial. I typically don’t follow these things, but this was different. I’m glad the jury decided correctly, with the exception of the one judgement for Amber.
Unfortunately tht was nothing on JD but more so his former lawyer. If he never made his statement, she wouldn’t have gotten anything
Actually, this was a smart move by the jury by giving her one of her charges (and this most minor one at that) against JD. This way, she is unable to come back and file an appeal of the judgement. By not awarding any compensation for malice is a “middle finger” to her, in my opinion.
@@ITSNEENEEBABY I don't understand why Adam waldmans statement was defamatory when that's exactly what amber and her friends did- roughed up the place, spilled wine and called police to show there was a fight. Adam was right.
@@saloncat5495 agreed
@@loristoneking5671 my guess and I could be wrong. I don’t think he was supposed to take it to twitter. Especially if he was on the case at the time.
DV survivor and my abuser was my mother. So hey, gender is most definitely not the deciding factor. We need to dive into how this society leaves families and communities without support and opportunity to rehabilitate trauma. And so mental health untreated as in AHl lands quite often in a harsh criminal system and untreated
Giving women a pass because they’re women because women have been disadvantaged in the past is what I consider moving backwards.
Men or woman or child we should all be held accountable for our actions. Any other mental health disorder can add context but it’s not an excuse that overrides out choice to act with integrity or with careless greed.
1:03:00 The "sense" this part of the juror verdict that favored AH is the jury bought into AH lawyers' sneaky strategy to question Adam Waldman on the stand even knowing he was protected by attorney-client privilege. No guilt should be inferred by invoking attorney-client privilege but AH team relied on unjustly courting that inference by asking incessant questions that forced Waldman to invoke the privilege. The jury found this sneaky and evasive - - even though they are not allowed to find this sneaky and evasive. That's how the jury found that one aspect for AH.
I don’t think JD’s team cemented the two police visits & tied it in with the photographic evidence. They did do what Adam accused them of
so it can’t be malicious as the jury thought.
I am glad it came to a full circle, AH took 7 ml and one of his cars etc , now she is going to have to return that 7 ml with an extra amount for the damages she’ve done…Savvy 🎩
Naaaaw from a special needs mum your comment about supporting that young man with ADHD made me teary. Thank you. I’ll drop a super chat if I ever catch you live, I’m in Australia though. Thank you and I love your collaborations with Spidey. :)
I’m in Australia special needs mum to 3
@@Whatintheworld259 brisbane: 11yo F, ASD, ADHD, ID and more.
I really appreciate the law tube and I really trust your analysis. The mainstream Media and major News networks have their own agenda but I felt like you all did a great job on covering the case objectively. Also, it was more entertaining and engaging ❤
Thank you for *not* editing out moments that might feel awkward or embarrassing to you in order to put out a polished, "perfect" video. When content creators have the courage and authenticity to not hide those things, I stop worrying so much that I'm too awkward and flawed to become a content creator myself. 🙂
We are done with Amber.
🙏
I doubt Johnny will actually go after her for the judgement. He doesn’t need her money. It’s a drop in the bucket to him. Even though she definitely deserves it….he just wanted his career and dignity back. His truth has been told and accepted. Her career is ruined. She still owes a good chunk of money she got in the divorce to the charities she “pledged” too. After her legal fees and that…. Before the judgment she’s ruined. My guess is he won’t go out of his way after her for the money.
Yeah I figured the same thing I can’t imagine he will go after her for the damages. Though I wish he would simply for the fact that she needs to be held accountable. She never been held to account but I know he’s won’t do that. She had no problem with taking him down and completely destroying him she doesn’t deserve any kindness from him.
What bothers me the most, is she still doesn’t take responsibility for hurting true victims of abuse.
Home owner's insurance - ha; they won't even pay for mold in FL! Thanks to State Farm for getting that exclusion.
I don't believe Amber Turd will have any issue in paying the jury award as Elon Musk will pay on her behalf, as he had done for her legal cost.
She can always “ pledge” the money to Johnny. 😆
She’s using a insurance policy to pay her legal fees not Elon.
@Sofia Diaz Amber has his kid
@sofia Diaz and bacik there's also rumour that either that baby belongs to Elon or Ms Turd has some video of Elon through which she is blackmailing him
I just did the math, if it's 10.35 Mil debt to Johnny @ 6% APR it's $1700 a day of interest. Wow.
I am a survivor of CA & DA, and I'm finally working on loving me and living to help others as much as I can, even if it's a smile passing on the sidewalk. I saw you in your guest appearance on that Behavior Analyst's channel, and I really was impressed... you two should collaborate more.
I wanted to say that it's very cool getting an inside scoop on all of this. Your insight is very helpful to those of us who aren't familiar with both jargon & preceedings. Thanks for taking the time to do so. Good luck with your own litigating!!
My son has ADHD & Tourette Syndrom and he was able to join the Marine Corp. even though I didn't think he could do it. He showed me that you can do whatever you put your mind to. My baby is now a solder!! What an accomplishment.
No second bite of the apple princess… I believe she wanted the Apple tree and the balance of the orchard… bite taken-🍎🍏🍎🍏
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She’s in CA: she apparently purchased a desert retreat.
No more 550.00 bottle wine!
(Edited) I thought that Elaine told the jury that there was a cap of $350 000 for punitive (see Edit). She told them that Amber didn't want the $100 000 000, she just wanted $350 000 punitive.
EDIT: I was looking for a transcript to get the exact quote and didn't find it. So I watched her closing arguments again.
I was convinced that she said it was the maximum she could get (really fast), that it was a slip, but she didn't.
I hadn’t appreciated that. But surely the jury would be thinking - why file the suit at 100m in the first place? The fact that they put punitive to $0 spoke volumes
She didn't say that she said amber would be fine with 350k in putivite not that it was the cap
What does this mean
@@Junitunes finally I was wrong. At the time I was wondering if she was setting up a reason to have a mistrial, because they are not supposed to say that.
Thank you for adressing the real DV victims, encouraging them to come forward and drawing the line between them and this evil liar.
James From Court - No! you missed such a fun moment! Alejandro was so disrespectful (unintentionally) to the court! He first began vaping mid testimony; then he seemed to be more impatient with the delays, and began driving off still while mid-testimony. Alejandro was lovely!!!
The judgement really seems like it was a jury doing what juries do they compromised. There was one or two hold outs that didn't want amber to walk away with nothing.
I thought the same thing. The jury may have made a concession to a hold out juror to get the win for Johnny.
Waldeman/Johnny simply should not have published what they did , as it was a very broad sweeping statement which was difficult to prove , as it involved her friends . I agree with that verdict .
@@BlackStump172 Yes, Waldeman went too far. And if Johnny Depp didn't ask his lawyer to make the statement, then the lawyer is still liable for malpractice and Depp can get the several million USD from him -- but I doubt Depp wants to spend too much time on that, and he will take his loss instead.
By awarding AH something she can't say the jury was not fair.
That is an interesting idea. Your are probably right.
I'm a cabinet builder myself, and have been obsessed with this case for the past 3 years. I listen to all the livestreams thru my Bluetooth ear buds on a daily basis while building my cabinets. It made me sooo happy when I found your channel. You ROCK brother! Keep up the awesome work! This stream just happened to be what I wanted to hear the most. Exactly how will she pay up now? What happens next? Can't wait for the next stream! ROCK on brother! 👊😎
That's actually really cool that you do that!
Rob- after the judgements being entered today, do you have any other analysis of what is or could happen now? Several people are still saying she can get out by bankruptcy. Also that she would only have to put up $500. Thanks for answering. You are great.
My youngest son has ADHD ;we diagnosed him at six, he couldn’t concentrate on anything and when he started school by the time he was 11 and having to go into the older school I had to go in and chat with the headmaster because he would’ve got chewed up and spat out in the secondary modern school! He was put on Ritalin, and I think it was risperidone which calmed down the Ritalin so he could sleep at night, but by the time he was a teenager he couldn’t handle the way the Ritalin was affecting the way he was, he got into a lot of trouble, and I think the ADHD is different in every individual my son had it really bad, he used to do his figures upside down and his writing back to front it was crazy dealing with it, unfortunately he , struggled with maths his handwriting but he’s brilliant at cutting hair so there is fours and against with ADHD he was put on another tablet but I can’t remember the name eventually he took himself off everything and he’s dealing with it, so guys well done you forgetting where are you’ve got in your life and future with a darling good job well done, I’m from Cornwall in the United Kingdom so different from America I’m in the countryside, my son loved fishing he could concentrate on fishing he loved it and he used to be able to tickle trout 🥰
Bless you, Rob. You seem like such a good guy
I don't think for one minute she will let this rest,she will appeal and the circus will go on and on,she is so vicious and out of control she will cause much more misery for JD
She will need to find new lawyers ! I will bet neither will represent her again .
Well her appeal won't really work as jury already decided the case.
There is very low chance, almost 1% that she gets appeal accepted.
Cluster b personalities are known to stalk forever
Dear Rob, I have been recently diagnosed with Asperger's, ADHD, high sensitive, smart, (at age 45 woman). I really learn al lot of all Your streams, Rob is my favourite, Spidey and Eric learn me a lot about general human behaviour, thank You all so much ! Greetings from Belgium, Annelies
Eventually people will get tired of her & everyone will move on. A.H. will be long forgotten. No famous Director will want to have anything to do with that Box-Office-Poison. She’s too high risk that she will bring them trouble. Excellent video! Thank you so much! 😊🦋
I enjoy the camaraderie among these lawyers. All their YT channels are full of intelligent and educational content.
You have made legalese clearer to us. Thank you all!
Doctor Curry was In Emily’s channel during the live reading of the verdic!!!
Woah! Thanks for mentioning this!
Edit: Can’t spot her. Do you have the time stamp?
@@TheStringBreaker Apparently she was in the *chat.*
@@TheStringBreaker If I remember correctly, it was somewhere near the start of her 2:15 pm ET live to wait for the jury to deliver the verdict. I don't think she said much but hello and that she was following. Emily mentioned her by name.
I'm listening to this replay. Can't get enough of these discussions.
Thank you for the info on the statutory limits and why the jury isn't told. I was aware of the cap (through Emily D Baker) but didn't realize that the jury wasn't aware.
It’s so good listening to you, LL, along with all of the other YTbers who joined you. I recently found you all and am learning a lot! Thank you for sharing your expertise, experience and heart. 🇦🇺
Hey, just want to THANK YOU for all your hard work, insight (especially with the bed, that was fantastic), your calm demeanor etc.. Im thrilled with the verdict & Im NOW SUBSCRIBED TO LIKE 6 or 8 🤔 LAWYERS, who woulda thunk🤣
YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME & down with cancel culture & ‘woke’ hypocrites 💙
Because the jury found that AH guilty of ‘malicious ‘ defamation against JD, she cannot file bankruptcy on the $10 million.
You’re fantastic Rob! Thanks for being here with us, and all of the great info you gave!
What I think Johnny will do is not accept Heards money BUT legally stop her from continuing to spread the false abuse claims.
thank you for all your coverage and knowledge rob!!!
Rob Thank you for you coverage of this case it was so great to have an insider!
Tell the world, Johnny. I Johnny Depp, a MAN and a survivor of D.V. I said it to the world and the judge, jury and the public believes me. ✊🏻❤️
Thank you for your commentary explaining this. Dont feel you have to apologise when you want to talk slow, or take a deep breath! Everyone is emotionally drained right now! I LOVE your sign on the shelf…. I need one! ( It explains me, amd my thought process to a tee!)
Just sat through this with all of you and found it all so interesting and entertaining, thank you so much, sleep well folks 😴😴😴
You’re definitely not an idiot. I have it as well - as the saying goes “be a fruit loop in a world of cheerios”! Really enjoy your stuff kind sir.
You guys ARE Awesome for your conversation. I appreciate listening to you sane guys!
Hey Rob, thank you very much for explaining all this in detail. Although I'm from Switzerland and we have a different system, I still enjoy learning and listening to you.
Hey what about perjury? She can just lie, the jury has agreed and basically said yes, she did lie. And Amber just gets away Scott free? Where is the penalty for perjury?
In civil cases there is probably no penalty -- who wants to go after it? Her penalty for lying is that she lost, because the jury did not believe her claims.
@@genx-tv What's to stop her now making vile accusations about someone else?
She needs to learn the hard way.
I love it, i have adhd too. I feel like i can’t breathe when i talk too much. And i always feel like I ramble. So I usually dont talk.
It’s fun to listen to you and Trago talk about your profession with such passion and enthusiasm. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I love how you explain things in a thorough manner. If I needed a lawyer and lived in the US it would be you I come to.
You’ve been so helpful. I think I’ve missed your breakdown of the jury’s findings, did you do one Rob?
Your videos were and are very helpful to understand Depp vs Heard. THANK YOU! Will continue to see your other videos of other cases.
So glad you explained the Punitive Damage. I heard Judge Ascarate mention th $350,000 cap and was left wondering! Thanks so much. And I am so glad to have discovered your channel!
Lol. I wonder if she will go to court and say "I pledged to pay JD, so it's all taken care of..."
Fully appreciate your takes throughout all of this drama. I also have ADHD in what appears to be very similar to yourself, it's been reassuring for me hearing some of the stances and perspectives you've had.
It's been great seeing the collabs you've done recently also, the discourse was entertaining and informative, I do prefer your solo content though, purely because you get to finish your points and conclude your train of thought