@@natu101yay I wouldn't be shocked if he pulled out "tortious interference with a contract" considering that these kinds of things would need to be under contract. Offkai wouldn't want that kind of legal heat.
What's more hilarious than her getting blacklisted is the fact that Rev was still able to attend, dispite being, in my opinion a WAY more polarizing figure
Her laugh is what gets me. I first found out about her when she was on a podcast called the Archcast. From the first time I heard her cackle, I was sold.
1:30 It is well known that "problematic" is common terminology among communists and leftists. They will never describe what offenses you are committing but will jump to label you, your views and beliefs as such.
"Problematic" = "Not left-wing". But if they said it like that, then it would be more difficult for them to gaslight people into the whole "Our position is not political, it's just common decency" BS.
Because they don't have the balls to tell you you're "wrong." Because when you tell someone they're "wrong," the onus is on you to demonstrate it. Also, they don't believe in the very concept of truth, so they say "problematic" instead as code so they can shut down any potential argument while simultaneously not having to justify their own ideas.
The funny thing is now that this has happened, the con will be filled with her merch and people wearing it so the people that don't like her now won't be able to escape her lol
@@Zerovin I hope there are a lot of people wearing her merch. And that more people than normal are wearing her merch as a small protest of the blacklisting.
Interesting that the super chatter is directly connected to Dev, who's mods have been perpetuating gae ops in Kirches discord for quite some time. Also interesting is that both Dev and the chatter disappear when Kirsche shows up to defend herself.
Not a big fan of vtubers but im a fan of kirsche. Seems genuine and based af. Love that she just tells it like it is. Authenticity is hard to find nowadays
If you had not already, check out Pipkin Pippa. Kirsche has collabs with her that devolve into them talking about random things, but Pippa's best streams are where she just sleuths through the internet and argues with chat.
I'm sorry, did she get blacklisted for having a DIFFERENT OPINION? a sense of humor (and i thought i had a thin skin!) ? Is this the "inclusivity" i've heard so much about?
@@talkingtakotaco8611 Actually, legally there's a case to be made that the con can't pull a panelist after the refund window. That's tantamount to false advertising, which is illegal. Not to mention how they never told those attending let alone Kirsche about the decision, it took her and other vtubers to get the message out. If people brought Offkai to court over this Offkai would actually be in serious trouble.. Regardless though, Offkai are full of idiots if they really think that this would all just "blow over", They'll feel this, the PR nightmare has already begun.
This has nothing to do with the matter, but I wondered why Kirsche's other ear didn't go through the hat. And I realized that there's pineapple in the way so it wouldn't be optimal, ha. Back on topic; I'm glad to see Kirsche keeping her head up in this. And knowing how people in these situations act, I believe it was the one person of the convention staff who didn't like her. But to avoid people figuring out exactly who by singling them out the director said "we".
Craig, please do a competing Con. Call it Based Con. There are a lot of people who'd be happy to make it happen. Anyone that was going to Offkai, cancel the trip and do Charge backs, and then tell them why.
They can’t, it’s past refund date. So you have already lost 100s on the ticket now. That’s the other big issue, they waited TILL LAST SECOND to cancel. You can’t refund and since most people will be travelling they have also got plane tickets, hotels/ABNB and so on. It’s a truly dirty tactic. Get people hyped and have kirsche say she’ll have a panel and then pull the rug out just as refunds is past it’s date. So people can’t really back out. Next year fishman and phase probably won’t be there and most importantly NOT PUTTING DOWN THE BIG MONEY WHICH MEANS VENDERS ALL MAKE PROFIT. Off Kai has hoisted themselves by their own jamboree.
@@LunaMane Probably because he's a crybaby. I remember that thing with... what was the name of that lefty furry? Anyway, he said something and was banned from the flashcast because he didn't like it.
Id show up, not because i know anything about anime or vtube but i loathe censorship. And id happily support anything that allows for free public discussion and passion for things people enjoy.
As a California native, _I have not been able to recognize my birth state for over a decade._ (I have also completely lost faith in the integrity of our elections across the board). Know that these cancel pigs do not reflect my sentiments, nor that of quite a few other Californians I know. Pity you couldn't come, Kirsche. Cali can use all the based people it can get (even at virtual panels).
Yellow Flash doesn't show his face, he's just a disembodied voice doing streams and videos and you're fine with that, right? He also is represented by a character in his profile picture there... just think of it as the natural combination of those two things, talen to the next step, like what It's a Gundam did.
I won't forget about this your RUclips out there, Kirsche, but i got see go grab drink witch one would bar or cafe or enywhere But i hope 🙏 understand this world f up and insane so Im sorry saying it but this world never end 😢
I heard they were going to blacklist Pippa also but Phase Connect threatened to pull out so they back pedaled. Money talks, bullshit walks.
the funniest part is when kirsche brought it up she was actually thinking of a DIFFERENT con, but they still owned up to it
They probably did it too and just kept it quite. They probably figured she knew straight from Pippa since there friends.
@@darkjackl999 she accidentally 4D chess'd them without meaning to. That's like Speech 100 and Luck 10 at the same time. 😆
Based Sakana wins again.
@@natu101yay I wouldn't be shocked if he pulled out "tortious interference with a contract" considering that these kinds of things would need to be under contract. Offkai wouldn't want that kind of legal heat.
What's more hilarious than her getting blacklisted is the fact that Rev was still able to attend, dispite being, in my opinion a WAY more polarizing figure
Rev and his wife cancelled their attendance due to Kirsche being blacklisted.
In one of Rev's videos, he actually said as much, before he & his wife cancelled their respective appearances--as the other commenter said.
They let Mariana attend and look at her double face she puts up, from being DOXXING IS BAD to supporting it
@@kitcat2559 "It's okay when WE do it"
I hope con protesters bring ketchup bottles for solidarity.
I actually got this joke, but only because I caught Kirsche's appearance on ItsaGundam's livestream.
@keystrix3704
Why ketchup bottles...?
@@DemonicRemption Kirsche keeps desk ketchup, which ketchup doesn't actually NEEDS to be refrigerated
She goes through a bottle a fortnight.
Foxes really like ketchup.
@@DemonicRemptiondesk ketchup, she is like Pikachu with ketchup.
"Why don't you make your own con?"
What a weird question to ask to a streamer.
Hey why don't you start a massive event on your own?
She’s got a great voice, Kirsche.
Her laugh is what gets me. I first found out about her when she was on a podcast called the Archcast. From the first time I heard her cackle, I was sold.
A true Bowstahn gal
OffKai is doing some sus PAB behavior. Letting a handful of "sensitive" volunteers run their show should be embarrassing.
It should be lawsuit-worthy.
1:30
It is well known that "problematic" is common terminology among communists and leftists. They will never describe what offenses you are committing but will jump to label you, your views and beliefs as such.
Among skinwalkers of all types really.
"Problematic" = "Not left-wing".
But if they said it like that, then it would be more difficult for them to gaslight people into the whole "Our position is not political, it's just common decency" BS.
Because they don't have the balls to tell you you're "wrong." Because when you tell someone they're "wrong," the onus is on you to demonstrate it. Also, they don't believe in the very concept of truth, so they say "problematic" instead as code so they can shut down any potential argument while simultaneously not having to justify their own ideas.
"Problematic" because they see you as someone who isn't following their narrative and can't control you
This is a very common thing to do, and once you notice that this is not just "problematic, you'll see it all over the place.
She could just turn up on the panel anyway it's a virtual event I'm just saying
Just add one of those domino masks to her avatar and have her named as "Mystery Fox".
baste and foxpilled
I'm pretty sure, a fan of hers or hater would figure out its her by her accent
I need signs that say “Spicy Cat Raid” and “She has a tab for that!” Among the protesters
I’m just thinking that if I were part of the Con and didn’t like her, I’d just ignore her and get on with the Con.
The funny thing is now that this has happened, the con will be filled with her merch and people wearing it so the people that don't like her now won't be able to escape her lol
@@Zerovin I hope there are a lot of people wearing her merch. And that more people than normal are wearing her merch as a small protest of the blacklisting.
Interesting that the super chatter is directly connected to Dev, who's mods have been perpetuating gae ops in Kirches discord for quite some time. Also interesting is that both Dev and the chatter disappear when Kirsche shows up to defend herself.
But dev made a video about kirche situation and was on her side for the most of it.
“SFO invoked in zesty ops” stop me if you heard this one before
@@TierdDoktor6391 Anyone can make a video saying things, actions speak louder than words.
@TierdDoktor6391 and that video got very cringe because he used it to gaslight about what kirshe beef with him was.
Dave is a scum.
That vtuber has a lot of bounce
its definitely the new model. Like a Senran Kagura game.
That’s just Kirsche for you. The Parkinson’s jiggle has always been a feature.
Not a big fan of vtubers but im a fan of kirsche. Seems genuine and based af. Love that she just tells it like it is. Authenticity is hard to find nowadays
If you had not already, check out Pipkin Pippa. Kirsche has collabs with her that devolve into them talking about random things, but Pippa's best streams are where she just sleuths through the internet and argues with chat.
Absolutely look for Pippa's take on modern gaming.
I'm sorry, did she get blacklisted for having a DIFFERENT OPINION? a sense of humor (and i thought i had a thin skin!) ? Is this the "inclusivity" i've heard so much about?
Yes. Yes it is. 0 out of 10, don't recommend.
Yes. If you're not part of the grey goo, you're not inclusive enough.
Yes, they're all for inclusivity, as long as it's inclusivity of themselves and their views and exclusion of everyone and everything else.
Yes its all inclusive unless you disagree with us by a millimeter…
Yes
The Korsche must multiply and consume the convention floor with fluffy wholesome goodness
Kirsche love.
She should attend with a vgo type robot, it would be cool and probably gain more attention than the normal panel. (It's an LCD screen on wheels)
Zentreya just did that, so it's definitely an option.
They should sue. That's the best protest
No, the best protest is just pulling out of the venue. Sueing is not always the answer and frankly neither side has a legal case here.
@talkingtakotaco8611 if kirsche is the reason they are attending and they can't get a refund, sue them. No more messing around. Get serious.
Mass Charge Backs to credit cards and debit cards, for the con, hotel's, ext, and lots of messages too make sure they know why, would be sufficient.
@@talkingtakotaco8611 Actually, legally there's a case to be made that the con can't pull a panelist after the refund window. That's tantamount to false advertising, which is illegal. Not to mention how they never told those attending let alone Kirsche about the decision, it took her and other vtubers to get the message out.
If people brought Offkai to court over this Offkai would actually be in serious trouble..
Regardless though, Offkai are full of idiots if they really think that this would all just "blow over", They'll feel this, the PR nightmare has already begun.
This has nothing to do with the matter, but I wondered why Kirsche's other ear didn't go through the hat. And I realized that there's pineapple in the way so it wouldn't be optimal, ha.
Back on topic; I'm glad to see Kirsche keeping her head up in this. And knowing how people in these situations act, I believe it was the one person of the convention staff who didn't like her. But to avoid people figuring out exactly who by singling them out the director said "we".
Exactly. It's a typical vague-ification technique.
That's a bold strategy that will always pay off, I'm sure. /s
Craig, please do a competing Con. Call it Based Con. There are a lot of people who'd be happy to make it happen.
Anyone that was going to Offkai, cancel the trip and do Charge backs, and then tell them why.
They can’t, it’s past refund date. So you have already lost 100s on the ticket now. That’s the other big issue, they waited TILL LAST SECOND to cancel. You can’t refund and since most people will be travelling they have also got plane tickets, hotels/ABNB and so on. It’s a truly dirty tactic. Get people hyped and have kirsche say she’ll have a panel and then pull the rug out just as refunds is past it’s date. So people can’t really back out. Next year fishman and phase probably won’t be there and most importantly NOT PUTTING DOWN THE BIG MONEY WHICH MEANS VENDERS ALL MAKE PROFIT. Off Kai has hoisted themselves by their own jamboree.
@@Teabag-jt You can chargeback from the bank for false advertising and services not rendered.
Kirsche is a better guest than YellowFlash. Replace him with her.
Why do you say that?
@@LunaMane Probably because he's a crybaby. I remember that thing with... what was the name of that lefty furry? Anyway, he said something and was banned from the flashcast because he didn't like it.
Yellow flash is boring, kirsche actually has interesting things to say
Strongly agree, Swap out Yellow Flash with the fox lady.
@@BobSmith-oo7ei SidescrollHERs taking over.
I haven't seen Sir Craig since the days of ScrewAttack and I'm glad he is still doing well!
What was the super chat they were referring to at the beginning?
Id show up, not because i know anything about anime or vtube but i loathe censorship. And id happily support anything that allows for free public discussion and passion for things people enjoy.
Why i don't go to events on the west coast anymore.
Kirschecon is going to be Lit
Put up a screen outside and have a VProtest.
Like Alien Ant Farm at the MOBOs :)
Shes adowable wai would deh bwan hwer :3
Anyone got the username of the guy who made the defamatory claim that Kirsche doxxed someone?
❤❤❤❤💯
Bouncy!
As a California native, _I have not been able to recognize my birth state for over a decade._ (I have also completely lost faith in the integrity of our elections across the board). Know that these cancel pigs do not reflect my sentiments, nor that of quite a few other Californians I know.
Pity you couldn't come, Kirsche. Cali can use all the based people it can get (even at virtual panels).
Dropping in to say: Kirsche Love
For being too based on what???
Kirsche supremacy
It would be hilarious I'd she just added a mask to her avatar, used some obvious fake name and go anyway
Wait... Side Scrollers convention?!
That sounds amazing!
Just thinking of the guests.
So I'm guessing this is a teaser to skip to next week's show? because you said in the show a couple days ago that Kirsch was going to be on next week.
I guess I'm too old, but I just don't get Vtubing
It's just another form of streaming
Yellow Flash doesn't show his face, he's just a disembodied voice doing streams and videos and you're fine with that, right? He also is represented by a character in his profile picture there... just think of it as the natural combination of those two things, talen to the next step, like what It's a Gundam did.
More like too dumb. Avatars been a thing since AOL AIM my guy, simple as
@@VetriVade Yes, dudes been using jiggly tiddy animu girls as their avatars for years. Let's keep enabling bad behavior.
Me neither. But I enjoy kirsche and pippa
I won't forget about this your RUclips out there, Kirsche, but i got see go grab drink witch one would bar or cafe or enywhere
But i hope 🙏 understand this world f up and insane so Im sorry saying it but this world never end 😢