What are some tips for the best way to connect a REL Acoustics subwoofer high level?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @bassandtrebleclef
    @bassandtrebleclef 3 месяца назад +2

    when i got my REL sub years ago, there were no instructions for this. Glad to see there's a video now.

  • @j-mals
    @j-mals 4 часа назад

    This is a very helpful video, thank you! A quick question: Can you do something similar with monoblocks? If so, how could I go about doing that?
    Any help would be hugely appreciated 🙂

  • @BaZzacRe
    @BaZzacRe 4 месяца назад +1

    Hey there John, im so glad i found this Video. It makes perfect sense now!
    I just bought my T/7X (my very first Sub) and as i'm a music producer i just have one small Amp (Bryston 2B) and as i use Amphion One 18 Speakers, i dont listen really loud (therefore also my choice of the T7X). As i was confused on how to connect the Sub i wrote to Thomann the Music store before and the told me i should connect my Amp to the Sub and then Back to the Speakers, which is not possible with the T*X Subs so i was really confused how to do it. I thought i need to buy another Amp and connect this to the Sub but then how do i connect the out to the Sub and the AMP, Y-Split cable ?? etc etc but this Video man, the solution is so simple and easy that i would never thought of this. So thanks again you saved my day (and the money for another Amp :)

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  4 месяца назад +3

      Thank you for supporting REL, and we are glad that this video helped to answer your questions about connecting the High Level cable for the T/7x! As the video shows, both the High Level cable for your T/7x and your main speaker wire will be connected together to the output terminals on your system's main power amplifier.

  • @pcho8022
    @pcho8022 24 дня назад

    i want to comment that I have a REL Serie R 218. I believe it's almost entry level back in 2012 but now 12 years later i'm still using it and it is farkin awesome.

  • @martinolson761
    @martinolson761 Месяц назад

    My pair of T9X's should arrive in the next couple days. Thanks for the wiring trick, I would have just stripped them bare...LOL.

  • @christopherwilson6825
    @christopherwilson6825 12 дней назад

    One question? Would that drop the ohm load to 4 instead of 8 ohms? Thank you

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  11 дней назад

      Thank you for reaching out. The High Level input on our subwoofers uses a high input impedance (150,000 ohms), which allows it to connect to the main speaker output terminals on your amplifier without placing any current load on the amp. This means that if your main loudspeakers have a nominal impedance of 8 ohm, then the amp's output stage loading will remain at roughly 8 ohm after connecting the REL's High Level cable.

  • @srkgv
    @srkgv 9 месяцев назад +1

    Can you make a video for Rel Stereo Pair, how to connect.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. Here is a link to our video on connecting stereo pairs of subwoofers using their High Level inputs, though if you have any further questions about connection or tuning then feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist:
      ruclips.net/video/ZbpIlBXsR_0/видео.html

  • @Mike.Macmyazka
    @Mike.Macmyazka Месяц назад

    Is there any easy way to do this with a pair of monoblock amps that are spaced a little ways apart? They’re not differential amps. Do I just have to deal with removing more sheathing from the cable and run longer bare wire across from one to the other?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Месяц назад

      Thank you for reaching out. Are you planning on using a single subwoofer in this system, or a stereo pair of subwoofers? Also, what specific model of monoblocks are you running? This information will help to provide accurate connection instructions.

  • @jmlaso
    @jmlaso 9 месяцев назад

    Hi! If I use spades for the speakers, it's less recommended to use this way to connect my T5i to the speakers (LS50 Meta) instead of my amp?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. With a single subwoofer setup, we recommend connecting the High Level cable to the output terminals on the amplifier itself, rather than connecting to the binding posts on your main loudspeakers. Connecting to the amplifier's output terminals will allow you to more easily connect the cable to both the left channel and right channel outputs.

  • @In-Rainbows
    @In-Rainbows Год назад +3

    Red should have gone to the right speaker terminal. Whoops!

  • @jon4715
    @jon4715 11 месяцев назад

    What about connecting to the Schiit Tyr? It’s a differential monoblock amplifier where both the positive and negative are hot.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out. Here is a link to our video on connecting High Level to balanced/differential monoblock amplifiers such as your Schiit Tyr: ruclips.net/video/vIuwYVI9uO8/видео.html

    • @jon4715
      @jon4715 11 месяцев назад

      @@RELAcoustics Thank you for this, however this video does not agree with your T/x series manual, which states to leave the ground floating for differential or class D monoblocks.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  11 месяцев назад +2

      @@jon4715 Thank you for your response. When connecting High Level to differential or Class D amplifiers you can start by leaving the black wire completely disconnected, though if you experience any hum from the subwoofer then we recommend connecting the black wire to a chassis screw or designated ground screw. Typically it is best to connect the black wire to a grounding point by default to prevent a ground hum from occurring from the start.

  • @darrenwint9969
    @darrenwint9969 Месяц назад

    Hi. Does this affect the impedance of the left and right speaker? Do I load my mission towers on same terminals pls? I do have 4 independent subwoofer phono inputs for 4 subs but this sounds like I’ll get the best from the rel s 812 sub I’m looking to buy.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Месяц назад

      Thank you for reaching out. The High Level input for our subwoofers is designed so that it will place no current load on the amplifier, and will not draw any amplifier power away from your main loudspeakers. The main loudspeakers and amplifier will essentially perform as if there is no subwoofer connected, with the REL then drawing a small amount of voltage to then feed it's own filters and amplifier.

  • @jumpstat
    @jumpstat Месяц назад

    Would it be ok to connect the high level of the rel subs at the speker post rather than the amplifier’s posts, since the subs are being placed next to the speakers. Thanks.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Месяц назад +1

      In some cases it is possible to connect the High Level cable to the binding posts on your main loudspeakers. For more information and for High Level connection instructions specific to your system, feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist.

    • @jumpstat
      @jumpstat Месяц назад

      @@RELAcoustics Thank you. Appreciate your fast response 👍

  • @hkraytai
    @hkraytai 9 месяцев назад

    My Arcam SA20 amp has a phono ground. Can I connect the black wire to it?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out, and yes the phono ground screw on your Arcam SA20 is an excellent place for connecting the black High Level wire to.

  • @awwbollocksthen1359
    @awwbollocksthen1359 4 месяца назад

    I've been running both high-level and .1 LFE's on my stereo pair of T5i's, and after disconnecting the high-level connections to do some .1 LFE speaker levelling, I realised only one of the subwoofers was working! Which told me both subwoofer inputs are probably running parallel, meaning that both running the same way.
    Even though my arcam avr20 apparently is able to do four independent subwoofer outputs, however that's with dirac live bass management! Perhaps when finances become available the Rel 3D HT will be for the near future. Therefore in the meantime I was wondering would be beneficial for my particular 5.2.4 setup to implement a Y-Splitter ?
    Any advice would be appreciated! Cheers

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. If you have found that one of the subwoofer outputs on you AVR is not functioning correctly, then you could use an RCA y-cable so that both of your T/5is receive signal from the same functional subwoofer output on the receiver.

  • @eladdaniels500
    @eladdaniels500 5 месяцев назад

    Hey 👋
    I have a pair of wharfedale elysian 2 connect to audio analogue maestro anniversary amp.
    Is the rel t9x or rel t7x will work good with this setup. I only hear music.
    not for home cinema use.
    🙏 thanks

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to provide a subwoofer pairing recommendation specific to your system.

  • @iluxman
    @iluxman 10 месяцев назад

    I've tried all guides how to solve the humming sound from TZero Sub for my desktop hifi sytsem, but in vain! Rel seems to make thing complicated.
    I've duo JL Audio Subs to mate with my Maggies 3.7 speakers, also connect high level input, without no problem at all.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out, and we are sorry to hear about the hum that you are experiencing with your Tzero. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist with troubleshooting this issue and providing resolution options as needed.

    • @iluxman
      @iluxman 10 месяцев назад

      @@RELAcoustics Thanks for your prompt reply. I just fixed simply Adding 1 RCA to the .LEF to connect with my Class D Amp (I still keep high level cable connection), and no more humm...But I'm really not sure: Now the sound of the TZero mkIII Sub coming out from the high level connection or from the .LEF. Please ... Thanks

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  10 месяцев назад

      @@iluxman Thank you for your response, and we are glad to hear that you were able to resolve the hum from your Tzero subwoofer by running an RCA cable from it's .1/LFE input to an open RCA jack on your amplifier. In this case, the .1/LFE Level control on the subwoofer can be lowered to the minimum/lowest position, so that this RCA exclusively provides a signal ground reference without impacting the audio output of the subwoofer.

  • @chrisp6044
    @chrisp6044 10 месяцев назад

    I have an S/510 coming. My amp is a Moon 700i which is a fully balanced differential dual mono. Do I need to use one hot channel only or limited to RCA?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out. Since your Simaudio Moon 700i amplifier uses a fully-balanced/differential output stage design, the instructions outlined in the following article from our website can be used when connecting your S/510 subwoofer to this amplifier using the High Level input: rel.net/blog/2015-07-23/how-to/how-to-connect-a-rel-to-a-balanced-amp/

    • @chrisp6044
      @chrisp6044 10 месяцев назад

      @RELAcoustics TY. To be clear, only ground the sub on the chassis if a ground screw exists. Otherwise, use the amp RCA output into the LFE input on the Sub with the volume right down.

  • @neilrobins3329
    @neilrobins3329 Год назад +1

    Nice trick

  • @japoltube
    @japoltube 3 месяца назад

    hi, I'm going to buy upcoming Classic 99 , I want to use it with both home cinema, and stereo. I have a question. Is it possible to connect it simultaneously to both high level input comming from my stereo tube amp, and to my Marantz Cinema 60 LFE output permamently without chnging any cables on dayly basis? Or is it maybe better to go wireless on a stere side, for example from one of my Rose RS-150B streamer outputs through your transmitter (not sure which model)? Which sollution would be beneficial from audiophile point of view?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  3 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. The Classic 99 is designed so that you can connect to both it's High Level input and the .1/LFE input at the same time, meaning that you can connect High Level to your stereo tube amplifier and simultaneously connect using the .1/LFE input to the sub-out on your Marantz Cinema 60. Each of these input channels have their own independent Level control so that they can be tuned separately, and it will not be necessary to disconnect or reconnect any cables when switching between these two applications.

    • @japoltube
      @japoltube 3 месяца назад

      @@RELAcoustics thanks, that's really great news!

  • @davidyan5502
    @davidyan5502 Год назад

    Hi REL, I would like know if I can simultaneously connect high level to a 2-channel amp, and the LFE to a separate AVR amp? So that the sub can do double duty, music and HT, but not both at the same time of course.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад +2

      Thank you for reaching out. All of our subwoofer models that feature the High Level input are designed so that they can be connected to using both the High Level input and the .1/LFE input simultaneously. This means that you can connect High Level to your 2-channel amplifier, and then connect using the .1/LFE input to the sub-out on your AV processor/receiver.

    • @johnsmith-i5j7i
      @johnsmith-i5j7i 6 месяцев назад

      Bad idea. Combines signal, you want to mute the high level signal when using the sub in AVR mode. Also don't set speakers to large. Rel have it wrong.

  • @irun2sanaxox
    @irun2sanaxox 5 месяцев назад

    does this work for lower powered amps? like 25 watts or is the amp in rel sub doing the lifting ?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out. The High Level input on our subwoofers is designed to not place any current load on the amplifier, and to not draw any amplifier power away from the system's main loudspeakers. Instead it will only be drawing a small amount of voltage to then be fed and amplified through the subwoofer's own built-in amplifier. As a result, the High Level input can certainly be connected to and used with 25 watt amplifiers.

  • @pedrovandeweghe8582
    @pedrovandeweghe8582 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, my speakers are connect to the A- terminal of my amp. There's nothing connected to the B-terminal of my amp. Can i use the B-terminal to connect the sub cables? The signal should be the same...Or is there a specific reason that the sub has to be connected to the same terminal as the speakers?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. We recommend connecting the High Level cable for your REL to the same "speaker A" output terminals as your main speaker wire is connected to, since this will help to ensure that the subwoofer receives the exact same signal as your main speakers are receiving and does not place any current load on your amplifier.
      If you have any additional questions about High Level connection in your system then feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist.

  • @Leo-yn5fx
    @Leo-yn5fx Год назад +2

    i still don't understand this. Where is the speaker cables from the speakers themselves going to if you're already connecting to the binding posts? Basically if you wrap those wires(from the high level input) around the two binding posts, and you're using banana plugs for speaker cables, you still plug all 4 in? Call me dumb but isn't that a bit hazardous to share one post with 2 cables? I'm lost.

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад

      Thank you for reaching out. When using the High Level input connection to a REL subwoofer, both the High Level wire and your main speaker wire will be connected to the exact same speaker output terminal on the amplifier. As long as you are careful and cleanly connect the High Level wire to your amplifier's output binding post, then this connection can be safely made without placing any current load on the amplifier or drawing any amplifier power away from your main loudspeakers.

    • @Leo-yn5fx
      @Leo-yn5fx Год назад

      @@RELAcousticsCareful as in wrapping the high level wire like you showed in the vid?
      So i'm guessing if you're mostly looking for a musical sub the the tX series is the best option?

    • @LYNXHQ
      @LYNXHQ 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for asking. I need this confirmation also.

  • @paulk9534
    @paulk9534 9 месяцев назад

    Why is it that the cable is not supplied with the HT range? What do you supply with the Ht range speakers?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  9 месяцев назад

      Our Serie HT subwoofers do not feature the High Level input, in part because these models are intended primarily for home theater use, and by eliminating the High Level input we were able to use larger drivers and more powerful amplifiers while maintaining a competitive retail price.

    • @paulk9534
      @paulk9534 9 месяцев назад

      Many thanks for taking time to answer; please tell me which cables I need to purchase, I will use the subwoofer both for HT and for two channel listening

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@paulk9534 With the Serie HT subwoofer models, you will only need a standard RCA cable to connect it to your preamp or AV receiver. If your preamp/receiver has a single subwoofer output jack, then you will only need one RCA cable. If it is a 2-channel preamp and only has stereo (left and right channel) output, then a pair of RCA cables can be used.

  • @alexpal1495
    @alexpal1495 10 месяцев назад

    How are we gonna high pass speakers when we connect subs to high level input

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. When connecting a REL subwoofer using it's High Level input, it will be necessary to set the corresponding main speaker channels to "large" or "full-range" within your processor or preamp, so that no crossover is applied to their signal. In our experience this will not only result in improved performance from your main loudspeakers, but will also allow you to achieve the full performance improvement that the High Level connection provides.
      If you would prefer to apply a crossover to the signal received by your main loudspeakers, then we recommend instead connecting the subwoofer using it's .1/LFE input to the subwoofer output jack on your processor. This will allow the subwoofer to receive all signal below the receiver's set Crossover value, and will give the receiver full control over the frequency response of the subwoofer and your system as a whole.

  • @jazzabana
    @jazzabana Год назад

    When r u guys gonna release new rels with the phone app?😅

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Год назад +4

      At this time we do not have any plans on incorporating app control to our subwoofers, in large part because the DSP required for app remote functionality adds delay and latency to the subwoofer's performance, which leads to a less optimal blend with the system's main loudspeakers.

    • @johnsmith-i5j7i
      @johnsmith-i5j7i 6 месяцев назад

      Just buy another brand that has plate amp with modern DSP features. Rel is 30 years old school design.

  • @Peter144-zn7us
    @Peter144-zn7us 5 месяцев назад

    Where do you connect the other end with a black cap it didn't look like a RCA male

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for reaching out. One end of the High Level cable fans out into three bare wires, which connect to the output terminals on your amplifier, while the other end features a SpeakOn/NL4 Plug which connects to the High Level input jack on the subwoofer's rear amplifier panel.

  • @albertwesker2050
    @albertwesker2050 9 месяцев назад

    Ground goes to either left or right?

    • @mitchellburns92
      @mitchellburns92 9 месяцев назад +1

      Connect the ground to the phono ground on your amp, it will eliminate all hum

  • @kwang1331
    @kwang1331 11 месяцев назад

    How About black cable ????

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  11 месяцев назад +1

      The black wire of the REL's High Level cable is used to achieve an electrical ground reference between the subwoofer and the rest of your system's electronics. This wire can be connected to a designated ground screw in your system if one is available, or to a chassis screw on the power amplifier.

  • @brianlewis5042
    @brianlewis5042 Год назад

    Neat

  • @darrenchase886
    @darrenchase886 6 месяцев назад

    Confused, why don't you just set your speakers to small like audioholics recommend no you just marketing something your know for subwoofers but not loudspeakers that's the difference

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you for reaching out. In our experience setting main loudspeakers to small significantly limits their performance potential, and can alter their sonic character in ways not intended by their designer. Aside from a small number of speakers that are designed to only be sent a bandwidth-limited signal, the vast majority of speakers are capable of receiving a full-range signal and originally designed and voiced with a full-range signal in mind.
      That being said, try it both ways in your system and see which sounds best to you. Musical and sonic preferences are subjective, and what is ideal for your ears and in your room may be different than what we prefer and recommend.

  • @thedude6478
    @thedude6478 Месяц назад

    What happens if you have a sub out on your amp ?

    • @RELAcoustics
      @RELAcoustics  Месяц назад

      Thank you for reaching out. An RCA pre-out or "sub-out" can be used for connecting to a REL subwoofer, though in most cases we recommend using the High Level input in order to get the best possible performance from the subwoofer.
      For connection instructions specific to your system, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist.