Ignition Timing VS. Horsepower // SBE Turbo LS Foxbody Mustang // Holley EFI // Hub Dyno Testing

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @SloppyMechanics
    @SloppyMechanics 3 года назад +17

    i enjoy my meme in the beginning, we've all been there as dyno operators lol

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      i guess it makes sense that was yours! i think i saw in in a group chat. thats a good one!

  • @nosnerd1967
    @nosnerd1967 2 года назад

    one of the smartest guys out there . don’t let the humility fool you .

  • @stephenhans189
    @stephenhans189 11 месяцев назад

    Finally someone can do a real fair test . Unlike some tests on RUclips. Thanks Joe

  • @justme7055
    @justme7055 3 года назад +3

    Loved the video Joel. I watch them all. Georgia boy.

  • @shaner.5
    @shaner.5 3 года назад

    My neighbors hate your videos my surround sound loves it, I often close my eyes and just listen to the differences between runs but youtube does so much compression on audio its..... But none the less thanks for your time, these videos should make any motorhead grin from ear to ear. Idaho, USA!

  • @TurbineResearch
    @TurbineResearch 3 года назад +1

    This is the most concise video I have seen showing how this technique is done. Thank you ! Great content 👍

  • @GTRliffe
    @GTRliffe Год назад

    not many guys would bring you for the ride tuning a big fog like this
    Nice!

  • @ENOCK360
    @ENOCK360 3 года назад

    From Maryland. Do t know why it took me so long to find your channel. Every time you comment about noises outside I feel like you read my mind. 😂

  • @phillipjohnson4709
    @phillipjohnson4709 3 года назад +1

    Great info. You’re my go to guy when I need advise on my turbo 5.3 build. Mississippi.

  • @ACCELGarage
    @ACCELGarage 3 года назад +1

    Awesome vid Joe. A good part 2 to this would be boost vs timing. Cheers from Oz.

  • @LuisCastro-nx6ye
    @LuisCastro-nx6ye 11 месяцев назад

    I’ve learned a lot watching your videos, thank you for taking the time to make all this great content definitely appreciate it, I’m out of Connecticut

  • @sprintcardriver8
    @sprintcardriver8 3 года назад

    Not allot of people take the time to do videos like these thanks for doing them

  • @Hediaz
    @Hediaz 3 года назад

    Man your fault i spend a lot of tine in You tube now days. Thanks for all the good videos. Puerto Ricooo

  • @Nextstagetuning
    @Nextstagetuning 3 года назад

    Kentucky here. Great video. Appreciate all you guys do for us gear heads. Best wishes and stay flat footed.

  • @bubah5723
    @bubah5723 2 года назад

    From Lewisburg TN, keep on doing what you do.

  • @mr.m6691
    @mr.m6691 2 года назад

    Videos are super educational. Thank you. I'm watching from Modesto California.

  • @jesscneal
    @jesscneal 3 года назад +1

    Great video Joe. Very interesting to see the gains just from timing. Thanks for the chance at the hardware. Idaho checking in 👍👍👍👍

  • @rmelcher03
    @rmelcher03 3 года назад +1

    Keep the videos coming! Great stuff, Rob from Charleston, SC

  • @tyehubert6451
    @tyehubert6451 3 года назад

    In GA watching. Love this one Joe. Thanks for all the inside info.

  • @liammcinerney5565
    @liammcinerney5565 3 года назад +2

    Would love to see where the "knock threshold" is compared to where the power gains start to drop off. Love the videos Joe, Nova Scotia, Canada.

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад +1

      thank you! ive done a few knock control videos. one on a turbo 4 cyl, the other on a bone stock 4.8 - the 4.8 compared external knock monitor to factory sensors

  • @raularanda861
    @raularanda861 2 года назад

    Really enjoy the videos. Good explanations of what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. Watching from Friendswood, Tx. Just South of Houston. Thanks again.

  • @timweb1510
    @timweb1510 3 года назад

    Thanks for the tuning and mustang uploads, here near shitcago,IL

  • @rizzoid
    @rizzoid 3 года назад +4

    A good sequel for this would be 'how to use timing for traction control.'

  • @DixieSpeed
    @DixieSpeed 3 года назад

    Love the videos. Can’t get enough of them. I’m here in Florence SC!

  • @derrickgolden4864
    @derrickgolden4864 3 года назад

    Nebraska here!!! Awesome videos and info, very helpful!!

  • @Jamiebob9771
    @Jamiebob9771 3 года назад

    Really like the tuning Videos just got my Holley x installed doing the same thing walking up the timing. Alberta Canada.

  • @408lethal
    @408lethal 3 года назад

    Thanks for all the helpful info you’ve been posting

  • @philbetthauser9547
    @philbetthauser9547 3 года назад

    Great video! 👍I enjoyed seeing how you approach finding the timing for an engine

  • @waybad
    @waybad 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for the wonderful information and your humor is spot on😆😆😆

  • @TechMarcB
    @TechMarcB 3 года назад

    Hell yes, new turbo kit time would be on like donkey Kong with that flange. Southwest Florida

  • @b00st_SS
    @b00st_SS 3 года назад

    Think I found what I just asked about on your other video ; perfect !

  • @stangetz7838
    @stangetz7838 3 года назад

    Tuning Theory proven on a dyno! Thanks from Bulgaria (EU)

  • @dmvboxgoat9969
    @dmvboxgoat9969 3 года назад

    Finally a can save my motor long enough to get it tuned.Thanks.Md

  • @split150
    @split150 3 года назад

    Great information. Matt from Sloppy Mechanics made me aware of the channel. Subbed from the US.

  • @mathewradman1710
    @mathewradman1710 3 года назад +1

    Great videos. You are extremely knowledgeable. I started following you after the purchase of my terminator x. You were very helpful in several tuning points. I do have a question for you. I have a 5.7 ls6 at 12 to 1 and a comp 54 602 11 cam. Just wondering if you think I can get 430 to the wheels on 93 octane?

  • @charlesfields626
    @charlesfields626 2 года назад

    Good video! I’m sporting a dart 427 sbf single turbo on Renegade E112 . Think I will get mine tuned on dyno again. Waveland,Mississippi

  • @Danielvarady
    @Danielvarady Год назад

    Hey Joe, I'm building a rear turbo 98 camaro, I'm still need to swap ls1 for a new ls2 6.0 new build.
    I'm probably about a year away to get the engine in the car running N.A. then I need to get the piping played out for the rear turbo. I was going to run dual 2.5 in pipe the rear turbo and then run 3 in all the way up front see if I can get oval pipe to get it underneath the car should be interesting but you should 10 ' s in the 1/4 in Albuquerque New Mexico

  • @jamieknight9636
    @jamieknight9636 3 года назад

    Nice one Joe, thanks for the vid, well done

  • @roadhammermike757
    @roadhammermike757 3 года назад

    Awesome video I like your videos it's helped me a lot with my tuning but I'm only street tuning as where I live we don't have any Dynos and now I'm thinking about picking myself up a Terminator x for my next project thank you once again for all the great videos. Mike Cormack

  • @workhard6445
    @workhard6445 2 года назад

    Great video man appreciate it the info is priceless

  • @dustom999
    @dustom999 2 года назад

    Hey! From India! Currently designing a turbo kit for Harley Davidson motorcycle! Loved the video. I don't have a dyno, however I also start with low timing, like 1deg per psi. Then road tune the acceleration with 2deg increments. Acceleration values and knock sensor events from log is how I do it. And i agree same set up on different engines responds differently to timing! Always wondered why is that, may be ring gap, or something else

  • @smokewizard666
    @smokewizard666 3 года назад

    Just found your channel today and I’m glad I did. Subscribed

  • @kirkball2286
    @kirkball2286 3 года назад

    Nicely done, about what I expected. Texas here

  • @davidburke6785
    @davidburke6785 3 года назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing how you do what you do.

  • @druumoren4458
    @druumoren4458 2 года назад

    Texas here. Thank you for another great video. I know your busy, can I come to the shop to learn?

  • @DaOnE51T
    @DaOnE51T 3 года назад +1

    Great informative video. Knowledge is power. Keep it going! GA

  • @colejohnson3705
    @colejohnson3705 3 года назад

    Another very informative video. Wish we had a dyno tune facility somewhere around Yosemite.

  • @Nickyb801
    @Nickyb801 3 года назад

    Thanks for the content very informative. Timing is the one where I would say the majority of people have the least confidence.

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      Yup for sure. I have a lot of people that will rent my dyno and never even touch the timing. It’s interesting to watch how other people go about their processes

    • @Nickyb801
      @Nickyb801 3 года назад

      @@JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      I have heard both sides on knock sensors. And from what I have gathered knock sensors work good if you are factory computer/car because they are tuned for the car, but for holley they can be tuned but it seems difficult to trust. Maybe a future topic but would be interested in your opinion on the value of knock detection and specifically on holley.

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      @@Nickyb801 yes knock sensors do more harm that good for most people when not in a factory ecu. That’s a tough one to cover as a lot of experience is involved. And in my opinion, still requires a dyno - it’s more of a keep it safe after the fact type of thing. I know others may view it a bit different but that’s my take on it

  • @TODAYISNOTTHEDAY
    @TODAYISNOTTHEDAY 3 года назад

    Got a tune on your dyno many years ago when you weren’t far from MIR. Definitely wouldn’t mind either of those parts. Located in south central VA.

  • @jameejelvik5101
    @jameejelvik5101 3 года назад

    Actually learning quite a bit.

  • @clint.garage.6092
    @clint.garage.6092 3 года назад

    I had no idea you could make blanket settings in the timing table like this, I’m glad I found your channel, I have recently setup my sbe 5.3 turbo with term x, I’m in New Zealand.

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад +1

      I don’t recommend tuning that way, it was for illustration purposes!

    • @clint.garage.6092
      @clint.garage.6092 3 года назад

      @@JoeSimpsonAtTempest Thanks I’m a real beginner and learning a lot.
      Car runs great as far as I can tell, having a lot of trouble with hot and cold starts.

    • @mrturbo6264
      @mrturbo6264 2 года назад

      @@JoeSimpsonAtTempest what if it's a full race car????? no street action

    • @keshwin108
      @keshwin108 Год назад

      What would be the recommended way of tuning. I see a lot of tuners have a flat timing graph. I thought timing would increase with rpm

  • @KarKamp
    @KarKamp 3 года назад

    Keep up the great informative content I'll keep watching.

  • @shanebarrett5827
    @shanebarrett5827 3 года назад

    Can’t wait to get my ls in my fox and start learning to tune.

  • @joshhorne6025
    @joshhorne6025 3 года назад

    Thanks for all you share sure does help us idiots out lol. Stay safe . Savannah Ga

  • @matthousden9919
    @matthousden9919 3 года назад

    Good stuff! Thanks for the videos and info. Heading to the track tomorrow with my turbo budget ls RUclips built turd🤞🏾

  • @ehworkshop9922
    @ehworkshop9922 3 года назад

    All the way from Lebanon 🇱🇧 , love your content💪keep it up❤

  • @genefisk5276
    @genefisk5276 3 года назад

    like your videos just building my first LS turbo putting it in my 1988 c1500 I am from Mi thanks for all the info

  • @jar895
    @jar895 3 года назад

    Right on Just found you Thanks for taking the time

  • @alexfont98
    @alexfont98 3 года назад

    Right to the point. I should of bought a dyno but I spent my money on speeding tickets instead.

  • @starnesfab9908
    @starnesfab9908 3 года назад

    Checking in from Tennessee! Great video.

  • @ianm432
    @ianm432 3 года назад

    From Hamilton Ontario Canada. trying to cram as much info into my brain before going term x max on my l92/4l80e swap that's getting a t6 s480 next year.

  • @Mopar_Taxi_Guy
    @Mopar_Taxi_Guy 3 года назад

    Great video. Thanks Joe.

  • @LantzFab
    @LantzFab 3 года назад

    Love your videos, keep them coming!

  • @tinopatallo5596
    @tinopatallo5596 3 года назад

    Awesome video. Learning a lot. thanks!!

  • @TurboTrucks7875
    @TurboTrucks7875 3 года назад

    Love these videos. Checking in from PA

  • @EG85
    @EG85 2 года назад

    Great video joe! Keep it up!

  • @davisracing440
    @davisracing440 3 года назад

    Arkansas guy. Killer video! Need some turbo parts!

  • @davidw.thatmsdguy8952
    @davidw.thatmsdguy8952 3 года назад

    Very informative, thank you! From El Paso, Texas

  • @bernhardlist9359
    @bernhardlist9359 2 года назад

    hi, interesting (writing from Germany). Are you talking about „Distributor/Cam“ degrees or Crankshaft degrees because I have done 2 old Jaguars (no Turbo of course) and came out at 38 crank (19 cam angle degrees). Just to compare numbers.
    thanks Bernhard

  • @brandonloll4262
    @brandonloll4262 3 года назад

    Great test to see!

  • @NorthAvenueRacing
    @NorthAvenueRacing 3 года назад

    Thanks for taking the "time" lol. Great video and very informative. New Sub from GA here.

  • @billjames466
    @billjames466 3 года назад

    Great video Joe. Always look forward to the next one. From Sterling Va.

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      Awesome, thank you!

    • @billjames466
      @billjames466 3 года назад

      Joe Simpson I’m looking to bring my turbo sbf foxbody in for some tuning within the next couple of months. I’m running a precision 7675 with built motor, alum heads, etc.

    • @billjames466
      @billjames466 3 года назад

      Joe Simpson Yeah man. Hopefully drop mine off to you within the next month or so for some tuning, minor exhaust tweaks.

  • @TheFreezy306
    @TheFreezy306 3 года назад

    Great video thanks. Love stuff like this

  • @paulmazzara5030
    @paulmazzara5030 3 года назад +1

    Michigan

  • @Chickenfam_LSX
    @Chickenfam_LSX 3 года назад

    Kick ass videos Joe!

  • @tomdivito264
    @tomdivito264 3 года назад

    Thanks for the Video, South Carolina

  •  3 года назад

    Great content as always. Keep these videos coming!! Estonia

  • @scottgarmon4865
    @scottgarmon4865 Год назад

    Just curious, When would you start pulling IAT timing on a setup like this Ls fox with A2A pump 93 ?
    What was peak IAT on those pulls.

  • @corneliusneufeld3505
    @corneliusneufeld3505 3 года назад

    Awesome video keep them coming! Manitoba Canada

  • @67nova85
    @67nova85 3 года назад

    Great video as usual! South carolina here

  • @nickvanella9106
    @nickvanella9106 3 года назад

    Great video. Watching from Pennsylvania

  • @SaffordSpeedSolutions
    @SaffordSpeedSolutions 3 года назад

    Badass channel ! From Jersey here where are you located?

  • @chrisbrock8742
    @chrisbrock8742 3 года назад

    New sub here. Keep it up! You’re helping me a ton.

  • @jerradp74
    @jerradp74 3 года назад

    Good info, keep up the good content.
    Fort worth, TX.

  • @frediefarmer
    @frediefarmer 3 года назад

    T-4 central Illinois. Thank you for a great video

  • @robertankney5480
    @robertankney5480 3 года назад

    Great videos lots of info thanks!

  • @MegaSpool
    @MegaSpool 3 года назад

    Good stuff man. How do you like the cast stuff vs the billet cnc collectors? I’ve been using the street car fab ones lately and really like em. Haven’t had a chance to try out a cast unit. Texarkana, TX/AR

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      the difference between cast and billet isnt any different as far as that goes. the design beetween the street car stuff and the sequence stuff is much different. the street car stuff is nice but i like the design of the sequence stuff better.

  • @mikeruthen6236
    @mikeruthen6236 8 месяцев назад

    Hey great informative video all the way from South Africa

  • @joeborges1541
    @joeborges1541 3 года назад

    Very good work

  • @danlucka9584
    @danlucka9584 3 года назад

    Should do a video on that fan motor replacement.

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад +1

      id like to strap the fan to a rocket and blast it into orbit. i just keep forgetting to get a new one haha

  • @TMGAutoglass
    @TMGAutoglass 3 года назад

    I enjoy your content here in Tucson, AZ

  • @mikemunro1169
    @mikemunro1169 3 года назад

    Been watching all your videos great info and fab . NJ

  • @johngrioli2838
    @johngrioli2838 2 года назад

    Solid video thanks for the info 👍🏽

  • @ryanaxberg9263
    @ryanaxberg9263 3 года назад

    were you running e85? Also just came over here from sloppy and subscribed. looks like you have a bunch of cool videos

  • @baldycamable
    @baldycamable 3 года назад

    Love the content, wish I was closer to allow you to tune my ride.

  • @D3thM3tal
    @D3thM3tal 3 года назад

    Looks great, how much more timing do you think that setup would have taken on e85 and what do you typically see for gains? Central US here, corn fuel everywhere.

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      The turbo cars don’t seem to take as much additional timing from 93 to e85 as the blower cars. I think the last one i did didn’t take much additional at all. Picked up like 70 hp on the gate from just switching fuel and a couple degrees extra

  • @lsxcutty8739
    @lsxcutty8739 3 года назад

    I see you’re located in Virginia! I have a 4.8 with a Gen 2 7875. Been 9.30s @ 147 with a 1.42 60 ft. I just need someone to tune it above 20# and clean up the tune. It’s been together for 3 years and I tune it myself. I know there is a lot left in the tune

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      I’m actually in Maryland where are you located

    • @lsxcutty8739
      @lsxcutty8739 3 года назад

      @@JoeSimpsonAtTempest I’m in Richmond va. I looked up your shop. It says you’re about 2 hours away. My car has the ms3 gold box. Would that be an issue?

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      Nope get some of those through here every now and then. Did one the other day

    • @lsxcutty8739
      @lsxcutty8739 3 года назад

      Awesome. Thank you for your time. I will definitely be getting in contact with you. Let’s peg the Gen 2 7875

  • @kimmoline3349
    @kimmoline3349 Год назад

    I need that for my home made turbo kit!!! How do I get one?

  • @MalibuTim76
    @MalibuTim76 2 года назад

    Thank you for all the info. (Florida)

  • @minnick99
    @minnick99 3 года назад

    Great vid, Joe! I would like your thoughts on reducing timing at peak torque/overall timing curve on a well set up max effort SBE LS deal. Mine is a 5.3 on E85, FI S491/102, TFS 220's, PTC converter, LJMS valvetrain set up for 8300rpm shift points, all in a 3400# '67 Camaro looking to go low 8's. Do I just leave the timing at 12-14° and crank the boost up to 35psi, or should I get a little more aggressive with the timing? Thanks man!

    • @JoeSimpsonAtTempest
      @JoeSimpsonAtTempest  3 года назад

      thats a tough one, as every one is different. thats why i encourage putting every car on a dyno. even the guys that just track tune their stuff always see benefits when they break down and finally put it on a dyno!

    • @mikeklossner5105
      @mikeklossner5105 3 года назад

      @@JoeSimpsonAtTempest Just wanted to say love your video's and all the info you put out to all of us wanting to learn. I know every car and engine is different and there is no real specific answer, but can you go over mike's ^^^^^ question above if we were to have on a dyno how would we go about tuning timing in not just the WOT area but in the peak cylinder pressure area's? In the video you just change timing from 0-wot rpm... would be another part 2 to this video if you could show this