Engineer Sahib on Socialism & Iqbal | Very Disappointing!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Irrespective of what views engineer sahib holds about Iqbal, my disappointment is on his soft presentation of socialist ideas. Iqbal was a public figure and not above criticism. But it takes people like me months to explain that Socialism/Communism is not compatible with Islam. Engineer sahib's soft comments about them contaminate the uninitiated minds. That he must stop!
Lastly, I would again request to keep the disagreement within the bounds of decency.
Qaiser bhai comment ki last line ki vjah se ruk gya vrna plumber sahab ke liye to bhot kuch hai bolne ko
بارڈر کا سپاہی قیصر رجا احمد
@@kuzeykhan1370 hahahaha zabardast greift
Sir yeh bhe to ha kisi ki ak ghaLti ya ak Apny Mokaf sy or wo ghalat ho jaye to us ki baki jo islamic countributions un ko Zero(0) say to multiply nahi na kr skty ..hr insan ka ak apna mokaf hota ha ..
I am listening to Engr Saahb from late 2014. I think he should listen to this video and clarify so that atheism and socialism kay against engineer ki koyi baat istemaal na ki jaa sakay.. Allah apko ye naik kaam jaare rakhnay ki taufeeq deta rahay balkay apki madad karta rahay.. keep up the good work Qaisar bhai. Allah apka haami wa naasir ho..👍
ہر مشہور آدمی علم والا نہیں ہوتا۔۔ انجنیئر اسکی اعلی ترین مثال ہے۔ جہلا میں سب سے مشہور عالم
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😅😅😅
Well said
any proof???
koi saboot???
Andho me kana raja (engineer)
قیصر بھائی انجینیئر صاحب تو بیٹھے ہی انہی کو سپورٹ کرنے کے لیے جن کے خلاف اپ نے علم جہاد بلند کیا ہوا ہے جزاك الله
واہ قیصر بھائی واقعی آپ اسلام کے بارڈر کے سپاہی ہے ❤❤❤❤❤❤
There is such a huge gap we need to fix and this man is doing such a great job. Unless you know your enemy you'll never know how and when they'll strike.
تمام باتیں بہترین انداز میں دلیل کے ساتھ کہی گئی ہیں ۔ اللہ آپکی توفیق میں اضافہ فرمائے
Qaisar Sahab you are one of the most eloquent speakers I listen to these days. I am totally inspired by how you deliver your ideas and present your case against this swarm of athiesm, lgbtq, and secularism agenda. I have been learning alot from you. May Allah give you Jaza e Khair and allow us to learn from you even more.
You are very knowledgeable and respectable qaiser sir. I wish people like you exist more in Pakistan. The dream of making Pakistan a developed country all over can be fulfilled when people like you come forward and inspire people from their views and ideas.
Your brother from India 🇮🇳
Brother his views are against socialism and secularism. 2 things which form the basic structure of the preamble of the Indian Constitution. So, if India gives up secularism and Socialism would you support that? Your Indian Brother
Pakistani kabhi successful nahi ho sakte jab tak khilafat qayam nahi karte...
اقبال کی باتوں کو سمجھنے کے لیے بندے کو پہلے ادب اور دوسرا علم میں گہرائی ہونی چاہیے وہ مرزا صاحب کے پاس ہے نہیں 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
100% correct
Please create a series on explaining all forms of "isms". It would be highly beneficial for everyone.
ABDULLAH al Andlusi has one a complete course on RUclips it’s really good.
@@Muhammadabdullah-hn6meshare link
Engineer’s understanding of philosophy, poetry in general and Iqbal in particular is so superficial and flawed he should just stop embarrassing himself at this point now. Years back when he made a video discussing Rumi and regarding his allegorical stories as facts completely exposed his understanding of poetry, literature and art.
I think unhon nay bay sanad waqiat ko expose kiya tha from masnavi molana rom, ap sahih sanad say sabit krdo wo kufriyaat tw phir baat kro, like Allah ka insani gosht ki demand krna musa a.s say, aur aik naangay peer ka Allah ki kanghi krna 😂
Allegorical stories ki sanad nai hoti, aur na hi hosakti hai, bilkul us hi taranh jasa iblees ki majlis-e-shura ki koi sanad nai hai, kyun ka us ka maqsad kuch aur hai @@sectsfreeislam7326 .
Are bhai jo sahi baat woh sahi jo galat hai woh galat kisi ki ek baat sahi hone ka matlab yeh nahin hota ke woh poora sahi doodh ka dhula and kisi ki ek baat galat hona kisi hona zero nahin hota
True about Engineer. But Rumi and other mystics' idiocies and deviant beliefs can't really be justified with "allegories" all the time. Especially when they purposefully used unislamic phenomena in their liguistic devices. Not to mention that the fundamental ideas and concepts behind those allegorical stories were actually worse than the subject matter used in their poetry.
@@philosopher-x is your position that all the poetic work by rumi and iqbal (just these 2) contains idiocies and unislamic concepts or just few poems or verses by these 2?
Great.....Qaiser Ahmad.great..
Jo bnda IQBAL ko smjhtta hai wo ... Ap ki tarah intelligent or sahebe farasat hi hotta hai....
جب عشق سکھاتا ہے آداب خود آگاہی ۔
کھلتے ہیں غلاموں پر اسرار شہنشاہی ۔
اقبال ۔ 💯♥️
Ulema, Scholars of modern sociology and Real educated people, all are going against Mirza. Its only because he has no real knowledge of anything, but half baked knowledge of things he thinks he is an expert of.
Neem mulla khtra imaan,😅
Jo engineer ke mukhlif mein hai wo already jahil हैं
@@AnwarKhan-c3echisti rasoolallah party😂😂
Look at the arrogance of engineers sahab followers. If you disagree with engineer sahab then they will lebel you as followers of firqa or bad'ati or mushrik.. then engineer sahab claims that they don't do takfeer of other Muslim's... they have clearly in themselves became a firqa.. ..
Because when you label those who disagree with you as "others" you are already a firqa
@@divineguidance520 five murder attempts were done on engineer Muhammad ali mirza. None of his students has done anything like that still we are the firqa.
انجینیر کو ویسے ہی شوق ہے ہر معملے میں ٹانگ اٹکانے کا، حالانکہ علم سے اکثر محروم ہی پایا گیا ہے۔ پتا نہیں لوگ متاثر کس بات سے ہو جاتے
جب کہ قیسر راجا بھائی کی دلیل میں دم ہوتا ہے۔ مرزا ان کے سامنے جواب سےعاری دکھائی دیا
Salam Qaisar bhai ... yar you are doing a great job masha Allah. i'd say 95% of our public are not fully aware of these "isms" that you're intellectually refuting, hence, i'd suggest if you can start a youtube series on these "isms" i.e. introduction of these ideologies for "dummies". This can go in parallel with the debates that you're having but i think educational content will be more useful and impactful for the general public to be able to fully get the context of your debates and ability to connect the dots. Pls look into it. Thanks
I agree with you
Agree
Agree
@@nilofarrehman8228Jahil ko puch na,
Kya 9 sal wali sunnat ada kia aur gharwalo se kara liye?
7 ajwa khajur khane ke bad poison piye?
@@AP-oc8iypyare aagyani dost 9 sal wali sunnat se apko kya dikkat h wo batao, ham apka ilaj jarur krege 🤗
Kya kal ap ye bhi dawa karoge k jaise Nabi p Qur'an utarta tha to RAJA sahab bhi apne upar usko utarwa kr ye sunnat bhi jinda kre ??
Apse ye kisne bola k 7 azwah khajur kha kr zehar Piya ja sakta h ??
The problem with Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza is that he pass judgement and interfere on fields outside of his own...His field is Sectarianism and he is good at it which benefits Muslims but he is causing issue interfering in the field of Political Sciences and Philosophy by passing irresponsible and problematic judgement. He should realise he hasn't undergone formal training in this field to develope enough understanding and critical thinking ability to pass judgement on Islamic basis!
Engineers ignorance is the same for deen, political science and philosophy have their primary sources in english yet engineer can't understand them despite having 16 years of english medium education, who is to say he can understand any of the islamic opinion when he doesn't even know any arabic
@@abdullahmuzaffar2483if the engineer can't understand then I'm 1000% sure that non of traditional islamic scholar even give their opinion
Dear brother. Because of your knowledge in these fields you quickly realise that Engineer sahab is not qualified in those fields.
But you say engineer sahabs field is sectarianism. All those who have knowledge in those fields also know that Mirza is not qualified there either.
Mirza sahab just talks about a lot and people without knowledge think he is an expert.
Podcast with brother Qaiser was very good as it shows that, when Mirza sahab is challenged a bit he actually exposes his ignorance...
Qaser Chotiah Rajah kon sa expert hai kisi field mai? RUclips per religion ka manjan ratings ke liye bechne se koi expert nahi ban jaata.
@@waqasmustafa i understand your point. When i say sectarianism what i mean by that is the literatures published by different leaders of the different sects in which he has good grip on and based upon the basic understanding of Quran & ahadith he critique those literatures which are not correct Islamically..I am in no way claiming he is a scholar of Islam and has expertise in the field of Theology...He has good understanding of Aqeedah but in no way comprehensive scholar of Islam!
My God! this my first video of Qaiser bhai and I'm truly impressed. In fact, this is very first Pakistani/Urdu video I saw on yt that's like those English videos of our muslim brothers in the west doing dawah work. now, why does this channel has only 60k subscribers? this is bad, are we only using youtube for buck bhai n t-series??
نہ وہ علمی نہ وہ کتابی
وہ ہے بس پکا فسادی😮
One line to say" Not everyone is completely right or false"
Yeah but mirza te shay e koi ni
@@khuzaimabutt392 ap shaid mere comment ka mtlb smjhe nhi.....baki apni apni akal ki baat ha.
@@khuzaimabutt392yhi to hai babagiri
And engineer is wrong in this case!
@@handler654 Anyone can't be master in every field.
I love the Ali bhai the way he explain Islam to us but disappoint him in secularism... qaiser bhaii is right and Ali bhai have to take backstep..
@@ahmedfarazsiddiqui agree @asmatabassum sister you should learn islam from ulema
They are real source. If they say ashraf ali rasoolallah is right then it is right no question
But his and his followers ego will not allow him to ruju' .. when he didn't accepted his mistake in case of nupur sharma then what else do you aspect from him
@@divineguidance520 he clarified it watch his full debate with qaiser brother
Engineer Muhammad Ali mirza is the only scholar who has recorded his rujos
Watch his video engineer Muhammad Ali mirza ka 10 rujo
If he was arrogant he would not have done that
But our beloved ulema still defend their stupid kalemas like Chisti rasoolallah and ashraf ali rasoolallah and haven't recorded any ruju
@@MuhammadHaris-ry1ro this is very clear when the mistakes of engineer shahab are pointed everytime his followers response are always whataboutry like engineer sahab himself..
"When ulemas didn't do ruju form Christi or Ashraf Ali kalima..."so on and so forth.
So if those ulama who believes in this kurfiya kalima are wrong and arrogant so engineer sahab can also do wrong and be arrogant...ok.. so they are right.. engineer sahab is no different from them and he along with his followers are also a firqa like them.. period
Regarding nupur sharma ..I saw the answer given by engineer sahab but the problem is he said he wasn't defending nupur sharma but if you'll see the original video he was clearly defending her.. he was very harsh on muslim panelists saying he was the real mujrim.. she was just incited by him ... but in the podcast he already knew his mistake so instead of accepting his mistake (because defending a gustakh e rasool is not a small thing for anyone who fear hereafter)
@@divineguidance520 ok now we will talk about gustakhi
Nupur sharma and those who defend ashraf ali rasoolallah and chisti rasoolallah should be treated in same manner because both are gustakh do you agree or not?
If yes then why no ulema is speaking against these kalemas whyy this hypocrisy.
Only engineer Muhammad Ali mirza has replied to every allegations of that cursed woman he has called that woman gustakh woman but he also had replied to gustakh ulema but you people defend those gustakh ulema
Assalamoalaikum. This is the first time i have seen any of your videos. Wonderfully spoken Qaiser sahab..
آپ کے 'ممدوح' کو شعر اور شاعری سے بھی اتنا ہی علاقہ ہے جتنا کہ سوشلزم لبرل ازم اور دیگر مغربی فلسفوں سے۔۔
والسلام ، ڈاکٹر عفان اکرم
Still engineer sahab's students are pretending to avoide these flaws😁.
😂😂
The damage has been done था The damage has been done हैं
The damage has been done रहेगा
Bro engineers' supporters are very ignorant people. You won't find highly educated people among them. They just want an easy Islam without ulema. That's it. And engineer is trying his best to discredit ulema so that they can ease themselves..
When engineer sahab in his overconfidence and arrogance supported nupur sharma.. and he was praised by hindutva. The followers of engineer sahab were praising engineer sahab saying "damage has been done"
They didn't even realised that their EMAM damaged those who were defending the honour of prophet s.a.w
@@divineguidance520 what about those who damaged khatme naboowat by saying ashraf ali rasoolallah
Allah subhan tala qaiser bhai ki zindgi mein barkat karay Ameen
I am a scholar of political philosophy from Kashmir, India. To establish Islamic law in any nation-state in Muslim country first sects have to go away otherwise secularism is the only option to survive. If Ali Mirza is of this opinion, he speaks sense rather common sense.
Aes pazi pan ni colonization peth nazar thawin zyadi.
Mental colonization chi chalan aisi khilaf yetu
bro we still have some sects with wrong belief like Twelver Shias, Aga Khanis, Ibadis and etc
we should try to refute these false sects instaed of uniting with them
Allah said in the Quran that if we differ then we should refer to Him (Allah is genderless btw) and His Messenger SAW. He didn't say that we should just stick to our differences.
We should advise all these sects to focus on the Quran and Sunnah so that proof can be established regarding them being wrong.
Lekin Pakistan to chal raha hai mukhtaluf log hain
Knh zaroorat aess na wanich ki Bae ches phalsafich koker ...knh zaroorat....u could have progressed without being that kind of boasting ....
Engineer has an habit to speak whatever comes to his mouth and he spends many days then to prove him right! He's a joker!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
We need more Personalities like QAR ❤
One man army
May Allah bless you SIR❤
Engine Mirza is one of the latest fitna today and qaiser Ahmad raja is a wise man and true ashiq e Rasool
I must appreciate the way Mr. Qaiser talks,... and his research work is also commendable...keep that up
😂🤭
I have come to conclusion that it's a waste of time to explain engineer sahab and his followers.. when we point out at the danger engineer sahab is doing thier ego is being hurt
His followers are andhbakt (blind follower)
Well said brother
Harsh reality
It seems like Qaisar bhai wana sak only mine views on Iqbal's poetry are correct one. now we come to know k Apna Baba chora boht mushkil ha bhai
@@muhammadnaeemzakir3904 sahi bol rahe ho aap baba chorna mushkil hai
Tabhi aap eng sb ki khuli ghalat bayaniyo ka difa kar rahe ho
The way you clarify the things is just admirable😊😊
This is my first ever comment on any video, I just want to share few points jo mjhe mirza se related bohat bother krte hain, yet he has a great fan following, but still he really don't even know how to talk, ye banda har cheez may apne apko oper lanay ki koshish krta hy k mjhe sb kch pta hy or baki sb log jahalat ki zindagi guzar rahay hain, is k lehje may bohat sakhti or gharoor ki jhalak mehsoos hoti hy isi liye kabhi may sochta hu k iske followers b shayad aese he hain jo facts and figures ki basis pay koe baat nae kr skte, any ways qaiser bhai i really appreciate the work you're doing, I really wish k Allah pak mjh nacheez se b apne deen ka koe kaam lay lay, or jo bhatak rahay hain unhe hidayat de, ameen
اصل دکھ تو اِس بات کا ہے کہ انجینئر انتہائی قطعیت ،نخوت اور اعتماد کے ساتھ اِقبال کے اشعار کو اسلام کے خلاف قرار دیتا ہے کہ جیسے اُس سے سمجھنے میں کوئی غلطی ہو ہی نہیں سکتی ۔
انجینئر معذرت کے ساتھ ایک مغرور آدمی ہے ۔
Dear QAR You are doing absolute work against Fitna may Allah give you reward for all your efforts I also want to contribute through videos. I am going to make videos too you inspired me.
Dua to Fix all your family issues:
رَبَّنَا هَبْ لَنَا مِنْ اَزْوَاجِنَا وَذُرِّيّٰتِنَا قُرَّةَ أَعْيُنٍ وََّاجْعَلْنَا لِلْمُتَّقِينَ إِمَامًا
اے ہمارے رب !تو ہمیں ہماری بیویوں اور اولادوں سے آنکھوں کی ٹھنڈک عطا فرما اور ہمیں پرہیزگا روں کا امام بنا۔
Our Lord! Grant us from among our wives and offspring, comfort to our eyes and make us an example for the righteousness. (Al-Furqan:74)
Qaiser bhai maine ap ko aj 2sri baar suna haa ap MashAlllaHhh bohat acha bolty Hein Andaaz ur adab k daairy ma reh kr Baat krnaa ap ka passand Ayaa Alllah qabol Farmyaa...
Mashallah well needed clip keep on spreading dawah
Jo haalat aaj Qaiser bhai ki ho rhi, same yei halat hmari b hoti when it comes to religious issues... Mirzay ka jo dil krta wo bolta, jesay dil krta ahaadith mein garbar krta, or aam bnda smjhta k wao kya deen ki aalaa baat kr d hei... Allaah isko wo dey jo yeh deserve krta hei, or Allaah is fitnay sey hmari jaan churaaey... Jesi understanding iski in topics pr hei, us sey b zyad gai guzri deeni topics pr hei...
I guess k babo ki kahania sunn k apki jaan sakoon mein raha karti thi pehle.
@@ahmedsaleem1356 AlhamdulilLaah I'm Ahlul Hadith or you can say Salafi...
Leyhaza aap k babay mirzay ki b kahaaniaan e hoti heyn jinko sun k aap jeson ko sukoon milta hei...
Mashallah ,qaiser bhai ko pta hai kaise ikhtelaaf krte kisee baat pe jb koi ki glti ho to ,na uspe kufr fatwa,aur uske baaki islam quran sunnat liye kam ko support !!bs jispe ikhtelaf us baat pe oppose krte ❤
This is the true way ,every other firqaparast have to learn from qaiser
bhai 💖
You are agreeing in the video that Karl Marx was against capitalism. The point he was emphasising was that karl max ideology brought revolution and iqbal was impressed by that. Iqbal or any person can be wrong in certain ideologies.
Yes anyone can be wrong in understanding someone else's idealogy based on few texts, and Engineer Ali bhai was wrong in understanding ideologies of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Iqbal
Coming here after watching review of Mufti Rashid Mehmood on your Podcast !!
After watching Your video Raja Sahib, I watched the video of Engineer sir. EMAM is saying absolutely right. Raja sir, came out of your EMOTIONS and speak the truth. You started putting EMAM's picture on THUMBNAIL while trying to get VIEWS on Your videos. I respect you. You should call the person who wrote this wrong. Not the one who told you this. (There is no one like my Prophet (PBUH).
Secularism ko kal se islam kahna shuru karde mirza k mutabiq
Brother, it is okay, we get you. We know that how yoy have made Engineer your peer baaba and how you have started worshipping him. 😂😂
Please continue in doing his blind taqleed but please don't cry. 😢
ان کتوں، بندروں کے تڑپنے کے لیے اتنا ہی کافی۔
"میرے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم جیسا تے ہے ای کوئی نئی تیرے بابے جاہل تے شے ای کوئی نئی"
Sir your way of talking and arguing is very well but Engineer sahab will never leave his arrogance and popular way of just doing disagreement without any logic and facts.
He just want to be popular in elite section of Pakistan who nearly left islam.
@@user-3013no one can argue with someone like you who lacks critical thinking and is intellectually bankrupt
@@user-3013 clear as a sky
Excuse me Sir ye baat aap galat kar rahey hai EMAM ka point theek hai
@@user-3013
Yes, most of the people, who listen to him, belong to the class jo deen e Islam aur Ulama se bezaar rehte hen and these people just want to listen the humiliation of Ulama more and more, which Mirza continue to do.
Qaisar Bhai har insaan har field me master nahi hota aur Ali bhai jaise agar kahi galti kare to mashallah aap jaise schooler bhi maojood hai usko sahi karne ke liye qaiser Bhai Allah aapki hifazat kare AAP bahoth achcha kaam kar rahe hai
Hadees me isse bhi zyada ghalti kiye hai
اور بعض آرمی کسی بھی فیلڈ میں ماسٹر نہیں ہوتا😅
@@maqsoodurrehmanofficial😂بالکل صحیح کہا
Evil eyes off. Raja sahab ap ki bht zberdst contribution ha islam ko save kerny ma. ❤ bht duayn hain apky liye. Allah apki bht hogai at keryn.
Qaiser bhai Essi tarah videos banaya karain jis mai socialist, liberals, Atheist logon ki quotation reference show ker kay jawab dain.
Mashallah a very good response from u. It seems that Engineer sahab feels like he has to give his opinions on matters that he doesn‘t fully understand and the sad part is that once he gives his opinion he won‘t allow himself to be corrected because he thinks that retracting some false opinions is a sign of weakness
I think you called it out correctly, i don't know if its his egotism or arrogance but he does not like to be corrected by others. Something similar happened when a certain Mufti visited jhelum to meet him and discuss topics face to face but Engineer Ali bhai went underground! Rather than accepting mistake and correcting himself he tries to irrationally support his arguments.
Baba chorna boht mushkil ha, now Qaisar bhai ko dekh k pata chal rha ha
It seems like Qaisar bhai wana sak only mine views on Iqbal's poetry are correct one. now we come to know k Apna Baba chora boht mushkil ha bhai
@@muhammadnaeemzakir3904 ha bhai sahi bola aapne, baba chodna bhot mushkil hota hai. Ishiliye Engineer bhai ki baaton ko galat proove hota dekh unke mureed Qaiser bhai pe gussa rhe hai
@@muhammadnaeemzakir3904aese comment karne se phle koi strong argument leke aaye
انجینئر صاحب علم و عقل سے پیدل ہیں ۔۔۔اللّه سمجھنے کا حوصلہ دے ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
All those people commenting on his posts and admiring him. I want to clear one thing. I’ve seen all that podcast and the later review video Mr. Qaiser did to show his disagreements for Engineer Mirza Ali. The thing is,
He’s just defaming him for the sake of his disappointments and disagreements. Our Islam also not teaches us to stick to just one point and create a fuss over it.
In the podcast, Sir Qaiser said that he had just some disagreements while in majority of his POVs align with him (Eng Ali). So, in the behalf of some points, he’s starting a controversies.
What else he doing rather than making the argument longer?
In my opinion, everyone has right to hold disagreements and their opinions to themselves and not to make a conflict just for it.
And as per the Title of the video suggests, its all about the socialism and Allama Iqbal. I don’t think that’s a more valuable topic in which his perception should be align with yours. Because our Islam has no relation with Iqbal’s perspective. Yes, he’s a great philosopher. We should just take him as that rank not more than that.
So please, Its better to just keep this issue within you and him (privately) and not make us think that you’re doing this for popularity or something else. I respect your opinions too, I’m not a supporter of Ali Mirza but as per a Human and Muslim, I don’t appreciate this way of making videos on someone with whom you have contradictions.
Thanks!
ZABARDAST
Bro, just to inform you about the basics of conflict resolution.
If a mistake is done publicly then it should be corrected publicly. If it was not on social media then they should argue privately.
One more thing, Iqbal has guided nation through his poetry which is a reflection his knowledge and wisdom about Quran and Ahadees. Just saying, Iqbal was a philosopher and he has nothing related to Islam is like taking his efforts "for granted".
Engineer wo bacha hai jo logo ke gharo ki bell baja kar bhag Jaya karte hai
Funny truth 😂
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مرزا اصل میں کتی کا بچہ ہے 😀
Jhoot.
😂😂😂😂😂...HaHa...Good Example
Engineer sahab ko sunte huye aik arsaa ho chuka hai..... Aur abb main iss nateejay per pohncha hon k Engineer sahab ko urtaa teer lene ka shok hai!😊
Qaisar Bhai i watch your content a lot , but dont you think that you also did a podcast review
and after that Engineer made video
but in this video you are claming that after podcast people will decide and Engineer made a video again but actually it was you and your team did the video with some nasty comments on him , so definately he will respond like you make this respond video to his response video
Agreed
Bhai intellectual dishonesty isi ko kehte hai
اقبال جیسا ہے کوئی نہیں۔ مرزا تے شے ئی کوئی نہیں۔
apka phela jumla ghalat hai... Lekin 2sra Jumla theek hai😅
Na Mei Ilmi Na Mei Kitabi
MEI hun Engineer pakka fasadi 😅
ai yaaaaa ❤
@@ssd.-r mordern zamna maa after 1923 or 24
Bilkul sahi bhai
Iqbal muballigh e deen shair e mashriq
"In the country of the blind, the one-eyed mirza is king"
I totally agree but in this country no one wants an eye
Mast joke mara😂😂😂
Bohot Zabardast qaiser bhai ❤
It seems like Qaisar bhai wana sak only mine views on Iqbal's poetry are correct one. now we come to know k Apna Baba chora boht mushkil ha bhai
Ap ne dawat ka haq ada kardia... abb jisko talab Hogi woh zaroor haq hasil Kary ga. Jazak Allah khayr brother
مرزا اور علم میں بہت فرق ہے
Good❤😂
This happens when some ignorant plamber tries to intervene in world of poetry and litrature 😂
Likhna seekh le pehle jahil 😂😂
Exactly 💯 😅
He has to be unique, so he has to diagree on every topic....
I swear by Allah, being a college student, i never mind mirza sb because according to me he has that little knowledge which makes him to noise louder.....
@@AnwarKhan-c3e thankfully Mirza firqe se nhi hu, Bhai mere...
By the way, firqa matter nhi krta. agr Mai Hanafi hu har Aalim ko Haq haasil hai ki ikhtilaaf kre jaise ki Fuqha ne kiya hai eik dosre k saath, lkn koi gair aalim ya woh jise ki bht kam ilm ho uski beharhal baat manna bewaqofi aur Gumrahi hai....
Yahi masla eng sb k saath hai...
@@AnwarKhan-c3e aur rha maamla is ka ki ab muhtaram kod pde hai Iqbaliyaat mai, ab wahan b unhe unique to dikhna hai to zaahir hai mirza sb ne kahi pe agree nhi krna...
I feel sorry Pakistan ki wahan itne bade fitne Khada hote hai, seriously kbhi Ghamdi kbhi Mohammad seikh kbhi koi aur...
Basically I'm from Kashmir,mjhy lgta ki shaam aur Iraq hi hai shyd fitne ki jagah, lkn ab kisi darje mai Pakistan ko b add krna padega.
Mazrat k saath
@@AnwarKhan-c3eor ap aik jahil hen😂
@@Mirazhar21 shaam aur iraq birthplace of hanfiyat 😂😂
@@AnwarKhan-c3e bhai ab hanafi brailvi aur hanafi deobandi na naam change kr liya hain
Ab inhe chisti rasoolallah party ya ashraf ali rasoolallah party kahen
You are doing great work sir.
Mirza sb k mission ko whi banda hi pakar sakta ha jo khud deep vast and multidimensional knowledge rakhta ha.
Sir ji.
U R great .
I m 💯 Agreed with you..
Salam, Mash'Allah a very positive way of putting forth your criticism.
I'm looking forward to your series on socialism and communism to better understand this issue.
As far as Iqbal sb goes it doesn't really matter if you are or Ali Bhai is right about him. My source of religious knowledge is based solely on the Quran and Sunnah alhamdulillah.
JazakAllah kher
Do watch the videos on socialism and communism of Taimur Laal, so you can better understand the concept, from leftists and rightists. Qaisar sb sugar coat everything and try to make his arguments relatable to Islam so that no one can answer him because they contain religious integrity
o bhai ja kr kisi neutral bnde ki series dekho ye chutiya Raja kuch nhi btayega
اللہ پاک سے دعا ہے کہ اللہ پاک ہمیں"پلمبر مِرزا، جاوید غامدی اور ساحل عدیم" کے فتنے سے تمام مسلمانوں کو محفوظ فرمائے، آمین
اللہ پاک اِن فتنوں کو چُن چُن کر ہلاک فرمائے آمین
Allah pak hamay lanti mufti rashid mehmood chokray sy bachay.
ساحر عدیم کو بھی رگڑ دیا؟
@@noormuzamil9850ilmi jwab do jahil tumhari tarbeeyat he gandi hui
@@sihahsittah2040 ilmi jawab yeh h amir haq ke sath bithao usi din tiya paccha
@@danishtariq1307 amir bht intellectual person hai....qaiser Bhai lehaza kr jaty hain amir Haq bolta hai wo bht axha rebuttal krta hai
It's really disappointing to see someone go to another person's home as a guest, ask for a podcast, and then come back to laugh at him (Phaka). If you had questions or concerns during the podcast, why not engaged at that time instead of resorting to ridicule ?
Aur rahi baat iqbal ki tw If he was that competent the nobel prize would have been given to him instead of rabindranath tagore. Even his own late son Javed Iqbal denounced the mighty claims that you connect to his father but you are insisting to hold him as a noblest of Muslims that ever lived.
I dont think there is any use of telling these people this. Fazool bat ka pakar k batangar bana raha he. He is kind of an egoistic person who just wanted to make such videos no matter what engineer’s answer was
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉ماشااللہ صحیح باند کرنا قیصر بھائی 🎉
ALLAH PAK APKO STRENGTH DEN, SIR AMEEN
SUCH AN INTELLECTUAL ANSWER, WITH ALL RESPECT😍😍😍
According to qaiser sir if you are praising someone on a particular act it means you are endorsing him in all his aspects. Kis ketab mei lekha hai ye?? If you closely follow the poetry Sir Iqbal is praising Karl Marx in that one particular aspect, nothing wrong about it
No dear brother, are you even paying attention to what Qaiser sahab is saying? Engineer Ali bhai is claiming secularism to be close to Islam. This is exactly what Qaiser sahab is working against, and when one of our esteemed brother speaks in favour of these things its Qaiser bhai's job to refute them and tell whats true.
I always thought Ali bhai's follower only support facts and profound arguments, then how come they are trying to defend Ali bhai despite he is being proved again and again by Qaiser sahab and his team😮
@@Gthbso Sir mei es video ki baat karraha, es mei karl marx ki baat huwee hai. Regarding the other point, although EMAM categorically said k that he has his own way of defining secularism & has just borrowed the term BUT he still shouldn’t have used the term i agree. But you can’t disagree with the theme. My point is secularism and socialism has many features & agreeing with one or two features, which are in line with Islamic teachings, doesn’t mean endorsing absolute secularism or socialism. And that’s what emam said in the podcast.
@@hamayunkhan7477 i think you need to check the original podcast between Qaiser sahab and Ali bhai, things that were discussed were to clarify that secularism should not be showcased as in accordance with Islam. The problem is even after the podcast was done Engineer bhai should have taken the critique from Qaiser Sahab and acknowledged his mistake.
Rather than that he went back and again trying to prove his point in another video.
@@Gthbso i think EMAM 2nd video is on the Topic of Iqbal only & that too by answering a question. He didn’t utter a single word regarding secularism in 2nd one, you should watch it again. And yes i have watched the original podcast and there too EMAM categorically explained that he has his own way of defining secularism & don’t agree with all its aspects and quoted several examples. BUT i agreed with you on that point that although his theme was right but shouldn’t have used the word secularism so I don’t know why you are bringing it again & again?
Mashallah love you qaiser bhai..mai ek aalim aap ke lecture sunte rehta huu allah aapko mazeed trqqi ata farmaye
راجہ صاحب
Thanks for the great and sweet response.
مگر جس طرح آپ نے یہ کہا کہ یہ آپ کی فیلڈ نہیں ہے اسی طرح سارے مسالک کے علما بھی کہہ رہے ہیں وہ اسکی فیلڈ نہیں ہے.
اگر ہوتا تو ضرور اسے کوئی گروہ ضرور گلے لگاتا.
جس طرح آپنے اس کی باریکی کو سمجھ لیا، اسی طرح دین کی باریکی ہے،
Engineer sahb sey bh bht Kuch seekhney ko mila or qaiser Bhai bh sahi point highlight kar rahey haen k engineer sahb ki expertise nhn kisi topic pe to us pe Halka phulka formal tabsara bh jazbati followers ko gumrahi main dhakeel daita hae
Mashallah qaiser bhai ❤
brother mujhe honestly aaj tak mirza ka purpose samajh nhi aya, what is he trying to do, ummah ka time and khud ka time waste karne ke alawa kya kaam kar rahe hain??? he seems to be beating about thw bush with no specific purpose
I think he is trying to become a new baba
He want's to becom hai ..Mujjadid of this centry"
@@kupwarekstar a confused mujaddid
@@kupwarekstar yeah he wants to claim that, and that title is given not claimed, jab banda har firqe ko gaalt boldeta hai accepted toh jaab koi sahi hai hi nhi toh namaz padhein kiske piche??
Bhai apko samajh ani b nahi hai
Masha Allah well explained brother Allah save you for every evil eye
@QaiserAhmedRaja brother apki videos dekh k mai kafi hadd tk Engineer saheb k bling following se bach gaya hun, otherwise mai bhi unn pe aik new babay ki trah blindly follow krna shuru ho gya tha. Thank you so much
Qaiser ahmed raja sb ❤❤
Raja sahab you seems knowledgeable person, i like your way explaining thing. I just want to say you respectfully that you are on wrong track. Suggest you a book and reconsider your opinions again " A Refined Explanation of The Sanusi Creed - The Foundational Proofs by Shaykh Said Foudah"
जिन logo ये भी नहीं पता की ये मसला क्या है wo jahil log bhi engineer के खिलाफ bhok रहे हैं 😂😂😂😂
What a pick and choose qaesir sb hatts off to you really you are doing the same thing like other islamic mullahz. Your point of view can be different but that doesnt mean that engineer sb interpretation is wrong about iqbal poetry. He has praised karl marks and his book. He is just highlighting this. Otherwise make another video to critcise dr israr ahmed as well. He has shown same aspect while explaining iblees ke majlis e shora....
Qaisar bhai ap boht acha❤ kaam kar rahe hain Allah SWT apko Jaza e khair ata kare Aameen Ya Rabbul Alamin
🤭
Kitna acha kam h k engginer sahab ne jo kuch bat ki wo Dr allama iqbal sahab k taluq se ki k unka opinion h ye or Raja sahab isko lapet rahe h EMAM k uper mujhe smhj nhi aata k Raja Bhai ko ye smhj aaraha h ??
Ya ye kisi k behkawye me aagye h or EMAM ki mukhalafat p aade h, ya fir view ka sb masala h ??
Q ki EMAM k sath jo vedio h bs wohi h k jisme in sahab ko sbse jyada View mile h 😅
Raja sahab agr padho comments to jawab jarur dijiyega
@@emraanmalik53😂
11:40 Sir baat ye hai key un ka ye point tha key For Example Aik banda Hitler sey mutasir hai aap kahey key Nahi Wo Genghis Khan Sey mutasir they Tu Maqsad Wahin Ka Wahin Hai dono ney galat kiya dono galat hai asal main baat ye hai key mutasir hi galat bandey sey they
دنیا کے پہلے قاتلانا حملے دیکھیں ہیں۔ جس میں کوئی سوئی سے حملہ کرتا ہے کوئی پیاز کاٹنے والی چھری لا رہا ہے۔ اور وہ بھی دور دور سے۔ 😂😂😂
Bilkul sahi kaha qaisar bhai aap ne
Allah App ko Lambi Lambi Umer AAta Fermaaye
Phala ma music or movies dakh k sota tha
Aj kl EMAM k videos or podcasts sun k sota hu❤❤❤❤
Ekhtalaf apni gajha ,EMAM one man army to Han bahi.....
Chota mota opinion k difference to hota he ha , duniya ma har ek Banda ko khush thoda he keya ja skata ha❤❤❤
Engineer is, unfortunately, blinded by his fame and following! His arrogance has made him think he is infallible...
u r making a valid point, as u said engineer sahib lagta hay siraf assumption par chal rehay hay - sir app say aik request hay next video may app phelay Socialism and capitalism ki basic definition loggon ko bata dayn phir engineer sahib ka nazariya ta kay sunnay waloon ko easily samajh aa sakay
Sir qaiser ahmad sahb before you mein engineer muhammad ali mirza ko sunta tha i was like k har waqt onke hi videos deikhna theek hei k onhoin ne kkafi ache kaam kiye but mujhe yei feel hone lga k wo thore over ho rahe hein like insert karna molivoin ki am still defend him on the field of firqa but mujhei yehi feel hota tha k wo thore zyada qareeb hein seculrism k but apki podcast mein mujhe sun kr boht afsos hoowa k onhein seculirsm ka matlab bhi ni pta tha sorry to say but yei mere dill ki baat thee or i think yei bettre hoga k hum madrisoin mein nuqs nikalne ki bjayei apne islam ki hifazat krein khas tor par Indian Muslims ki awaz othayein
Its not an islamic matter you are just forcing your thoughts on Ali bhai...he has right to opinion Whether its wrong or right
Love u qaiser bhai,❤
I wish Engineer sb never surrender to your school of thought.
You need to learn to accept and acknowledge the difference and focus on your tazkiya e nafs.
Danda le kr hr aik k pechay pr janay se phlay apna mohasba bht zruri hai.
Bht se log apni apni capacity me den ki khidmat kr rahay hai. Sb ko apna kaam krnay dein. Ap apna kaam krein.
Ironically you are making people rebel and revolt against conservative thought. It feels like a matter of ego and not ideology. Baqi dilo k haal Allah bhtr janta hai.
Iqbal is a great philosopher.
Sir I think aap apna point sahi sey nahi bta paa rahey aap kehtey hai key "Karl Marx" Human Rights key khilaf tha aur dosari jga jahan "Iqbal" ney "Karl Marx" ki Tareef ki wahan aap Iqbal ko Defend kar rahey hai I Mean Main Samjhney sey Qasir hon aap ki baat ko
capitalism k jo evils thy us ne un ko target kia tha jis ka faida elite uthati hay..... r is criticism was really fascinated that was highlighted by Iqbal.... jis main Iblees ka aik chela tashweesh ka izhaar karta hay k logon per capitalism k evil zahir ho gay hain......... yeh wo chez the jo Iqbaal ne admire ki
jahan tak rahi individual freedom ki to communism main koi human rights freedom nahen hte... china ki ki misaal le lain abhi to wahan per boht changings communism se socialism and now further they accepted somehow capitalism.
Ak podcast mufti Rashid Mahmood Sy krlein regarding firqa wariat
Mushkil hai..
But that would be top notch podcast!
Exactly brother
Rashid razvi is a chisti defender
Yrr eik firqaparst sy kia podcast karengy qaisar sahab.
@@sophosalpha what about you?
Mini god defender?
Podcast ma chisti defender Wala question b krein,hm to yhe chahty hain k Jo b aitrazat hain wo unky samny rkhy jaey
Debate hni chhaye
Overall Great Qaiser Raja bhai..
Qaiser sahab❤😍
Engineer clearly said in video that Carl Marks is not the one to be followed but since his ideas were revolutionary for the people of his time so he earned his credit only for that and same thing was praised by Allama Iqbal and same interpretation was done by Dr. Israr Ahmed.
Engineer Md. Ali Mirza has half of a knowledge about mazhab. He is totally ignorant about poetry, philosophy, communism, socialism and other idealogies. You are giving him undue importance about Iqbal and his philosophy.
You are right. He also doesn't have a basic knowledge of literature. Iqbal writes what Iblis would be talking about present world according to context of Quran. Saying that these are iqbal ideology in the line of Iblis is ridiculous.
Who r u to judge it?
What r your qualifications to paas such a judgement ?
@@ahmedsaleem1356we saw the podcast brother. Call spade a spade. He is great for removing bidaat. But recently he has become favorite of liberals and atheists.
@@Mrkhan-qy1qe😂 زبرردست
بابا کمرے والی سرکار فرقہ منگولیہ کے بانی😅
The thing is Mirza sahab uses words that he doesnt understand. Just like he made a comment about islam and secularism. He doesnt know proper definition of secularism and made up his own definition. Thats not how it works. Most of us are illiterate when it comes to arabic, Quran and Ahadith. So who knows what he might be mis quoting or giving wrong meanings to words in his explaination.
I feel that EMAM is clear in what he believes and what his students should believe and take religion from. He cannot be held responsible for deviants who want to defame Islam and are hell bent on leaving religion. The main reason being they dont want to be answerable or accountable to anyone. They want to live theirs lives per their whims and fancies. You will always find people who will find one excuse or the other to leave religion by trying to quote things out of context. EMAM is clear on what he supports without any hesitation and that is the Quran and the sayings of Rasool Allah s.a.w.w. When he's not ready to take things which go against Islam from Imam Abu Hanifa/Malik/Hanbal/Shafei etc.. then how can you blame him for supporting things which are not Islamic from Marx/Lenin or any other person!
Get well soon if you support mirza
@@Karayel111 That's your argument? Can you please answer specifically than doing your 'get well soon' thing which seems rather childish!
Bht zabardast analysis bro 👍
😂😂😂
@@SyedAliAbbasBilgrami Call him out for getting face to face with ulama,, we'll show how arguments should be given
Qaisar bhai good aap kisi scholar ke khilaf nahi bolte engineer soft target he or views bhi boht milte he