Review of The Movie Contact Through an Atheist Lens

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  • @cimbakahn
    @cimbakahn 6 месяцев назад +4

    I absolutely love Contact! If I watch any movie more than once (as I have with this one) you know it's got to be damn good.

  • @Hairmetallurgist
    @Hairmetallurgist 11 месяцев назад +15

    I know you've had to adjust your content and I empathize, but I have to say this new direction is hitting it out of the park as effectively as your prior work. Congratulations on your new work!

    • @AgatanFnd
      @AgatanFnd  11 месяцев назад +2

      I appreciate that

  • @dimbulb23
    @dimbulb23 11 месяцев назад +14

    I'm not a scientist but I've been an atheist since I was 14... think 1958. I liked Contact and I'll make the effort to stream it again. But I don't like the idea of Truth Seeking, nor to have have much respect for anyone who calls themselves, "Truth Seeker". I much prefer "Seeker of Understanding". "Truth" is goal that far too many find, announce they have it and close their minds. Nothing in Science is settled, many things are understood but nothing completely understood. Science is a journey, not the end of path.

  • @HolyMith
    @HolyMith 8 месяцев назад +3

    Great video but I'll admit I was expecting a little more specific discussion of the scenes of the film and some discourse on them.

  • @laurajarrell6187
    @laurajarrell6187 11 месяцев назад +8

    AF, Sean, nice work. Sagan was,I think, critical to showing that science 'comunicators' are so very important. When I was young, '60s and '70s, TV was the best way. Shows like 'The Underwater World of Jaques Cousteau' or 'Mutual of Omhas' Wild Kingdom ' were staples. 'Bill Nye the Science Guy' and even Star Trek, got kids interested! Now, it is channels like yours are needed more than ever!👍💙💖🥰✌

    • @AgatanFnd
      @AgatanFnd  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you as always Laura

  • @PapaWooody
    @PapaWooody 11 месяцев назад +3

    Scalpel of Skepticism … love it!

  • @javy.airlines
    @javy.airlines 11 месяцев назад +3

    What A Great Content From My Very Good Friend Natasha👍👏😍❤️😘!!!

  • @kiwitrails1304
    @kiwitrails1304 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Agatan! A channel called "AdventuresOfLittleJohnny" has recently been reuploading videos of yours without credit.
    The videos also have Pay Pal links attached, so they are not only stealing the content but profiting from it.

  • @Mynyel
    @Mynyel 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks so much.

  • @AbsolveAsGaad
    @AbsolveAsGaad 5 месяцев назад +1

    Much respect

  • @badbatch78
    @badbatch78 3 месяца назад

    Contact is a beautiful film that spoke to me the moment I watched it.

  • @kylebrooks8528
    @kylebrooks8528 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Wish it were longer

  • @photobobo
    @photobobo 11 месяцев назад +4

    In the story, theology proclaims victory by doing what it always does, lying.

  • @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen
    @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen 11 месяцев назад +2

    👏🙂
    Exciting

  • @alanhart6197
    @alanhart6197 8 месяцев назад +3

    Contact was a great but weird movie from an non-US perspective, including a theist in a science plot line is almost uniquely American phemonom (ok probably would also occur in another theist society). I found that plot line distracting and unnecessary. Otherwise a great movie. Jodie Foster is an amazing person.

  • @martincloutier6599
    @martincloutier6599 11 месяцев назад +1

    Liked your video. Thanks to the continued work on videos. What programs do you use to edit your videos and add text overlay, add your logo etc. And is yours a foundation that I can get a charitable receipt from if I donate?

  • @nicksapp6543
    @nicksapp6543 4 месяца назад

    Contact was and is a great tool for atheism. A masterpiece from Sagan!

  • @gregnietsky
    @gregnietsky 11 месяцев назад +3

    Hail sagan

  • @krino8137
    @krino8137 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is there a reason the movie scenes are extremely choppy?

    • @AgatanFnd
      @AgatanFnd  11 месяцев назад

      Yes, the program (AI) I used to make to to a 4k video which took over 12 hours wasn't good enough. Still better than the original though

  • @JackTorrance333
    @JackTorrance333 11 месяцев назад +2

    People see what they want. You obviously did. Cheers regardless.

  • @MuhammadAdamGhamkoley
    @MuhammadAdamGhamkoley 11 месяцев назад +2

    The youtube possi😮bly has a Muslim parent, guessing from the name.

  • @anypercentdeathless
    @anypercentdeathless 7 месяцев назад +1

    25% of the video is intro?
    Unsubbing.

  • @ScottDCS
    @ScottDCS 11 месяцев назад

    Meh

  • @jamesthompson284
    @jamesthompson284 11 месяцев назад +2

    It was a lousy movie. I was bored to tears.

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 10 месяцев назад +2

      My main problem with it was the way Ellie became so absurdly emotional at the end, essentially caving in to what was little more than baseless gaslighting by the committee member. She should have remained calm, collected & professional, and insisted that any such claims of fraud, etc. be justified with proper evidence, the tape recording fully examined, the counter claims properly presented with an evidence-based rationale during organised proceedings, stated firmly that absolutely no way could or should one allow a firm conclusion to be drawn on the spur of the moment based merely on a few sentences uttered by a single person with no supporting evidence. And given the nature of her expertise, she should have known that there may have been time dilation effects with regard to the tape recording and thus insisted it be played, in full, regardless of its content; that alone would have blown apart the committee member's speech.
      Instead she turns into a blubbery mess, says some words of nonsense that don't amount to much of anything and gives up. Hardly the strength of character the early portion of the movie portrayed, certainly not the kind of gumption that she needed to take on the role of the sole passenger in the probe. To me the ending felt like the writers (or whoever) were trying to sit on the narrative fence, rather than deal with the far more interesting question of how a faith-dominated planetary species would actually cope with state-confirmed proof that alien life not only existed but had made contact. It all just gets brushed under the carpet at the end. I don't know if this is what happens in the book, I've not yet read it (scifi book pile is already several dozen high).
      Ellie's lurch toward the emotional happens earlier in the film and then just ramps up. I never understood the need. Meeting the alien, she should have asked to be able to see them for who or what they really are, because the alien choosing to take the form of her dead father was effectively very manipulative and patronising. Is she a professional scientist? Supposedly, as portrayed in earlier scenes, someone with a lot of guts to pursue her goals, but in that encounter scene she is reduced to a little girl, extremely emotional, overwhelmed by the exploitative use of her cherished childhood memories, very passive in her interactions with the entity. If humanity is worthy of being contacted then it should be afforded the relevant respect of such contact. It's ironic that for a film with such a supposedly strong aetheistic leaning, Ellie ends up meeting a literal sky daddy of sorts.
      It begs the obvious question, could the writing have gotten away with the same essential scene structure, plot lines and ending if the protagonist had been male? Probably not. As a result, interesting plot questions and potential avenues of events remain unexplored. It could have been a much stronger and more thought provoking film. The potential was to dive head first into the great "What if?...", but it never does.
      Note the above says nothing about the quality of the acting, score, effects, etc. Foster plays Ellie in the way she's been written very well, as does everyone else. But ultimately it all doesn't go anywhere. The preacher character is typical of the fence-sitting writing; people of actual faith would likely be much firmer in their stated opinions and harder to convince of the merits of Ellie's views. Ellie's romance with Palmer allows the writing to reign in the severity and scale of Palmer's actions and influence; what if that character had been female? If there had been no romantic angle? Their interactions based solely on rational argument? It would have been more interesting if Palmer had shown far stronger convictions of faith, as most people of faith actually do.
      I enjoyed the early part of the film, but once it became clear the plot was going to go with a "religious nutter" as the basis for attempted sabotage it lost its potency; it would have been more realistic, especially these days, if the sabotage were conducted by radical environmentalists. Instead the destruction of the first launch system seemed more like a cheap and easy jab at faith in general; at the very least there could have been included scenes of religious leaders condemning the act, since by definition those responsible killed people in the process.
      Overall, I don't see how one can hold Contact up as some paragon of the aethist worldview when the events in the film never actually tackle the hard questions at all, rather it dances around them, trying not to offend too much. There were better ways the basic conflict of worldviews could have been presented. It didn't help that the plot also included a degree of workplace gender politics, yet another distraction.
      "Contact" with a male lead would have been a very different movie, it's what should have been made. Instead we had a technically very well made and acted film but with an emotionally dominated plotline that fails to ask the hard questions.
      Hmm, I was going to agree it's slow, at least at the start, but Interstellar takes that crown for all time. :D

    • @Alan-71351
      @Alan-71351 10 месяцев назад

      Palmer was just friggin annoying, unnecessary and and annoyed me as much as Tom Skerit ALWAYS DOES!😂