I think it’s interesting that we humans still feel like the most alien-looking thing is a squid or octopus. It is possible they would be floating in their own atmosphere though and the gas is an artificial version.
People just aren't creative anymore, like Lovecraft or how some of those "angels" are supposed to look. Bunch of floating eyes with giant ass wing like things, I think I'd take the squid like creature before that mind fuck of a being
@@Tavis15ify I mean the depiction of those “angels” is biblically accurate. You can’t believe an angel looks like a white male with blue eyes when even the book responsible for creating and - up until now, the only “evidence” for them - says they don’t. I’m sorry, but you just can’t cheery-pick the Bible and remove things you don’t like or agree with.
@@Tavis15ify The true meaning of the word "Alien" is that it means "Doesn't look belong on Earth" and those examples you picks does in fact look Alien including marine life specially Deep Sea Creatures. We think is this and that is because that's how Humans comprehend things they see. You're not Smart. You're not a Scientist You're not even full time Employee.
This movie is pretty old and it's been a long time. One thing i do know is it's a great film. I've actually seen it listed in the free movie section of RUclips and have forgotten what it was all about until now. I guess I'll be adding it to my Playlist.
I watched this in highschool in film study class almost 3 years ago. It was such a good movie and I was genuinely interested but all the class clowns kept ruining the experience for everyone else that actually wanted to watch the movie and the teacher had to keep pausing to tell them to shut up lol. Good times
Arrival begs the meaning of the open secret alternative/ parallel universe past present and future dimensions are created by actions in the present base line time... the good, bad and the ugly heart, actions have a direct relationship to the higher dimensions alternative realities predetermine outcomes.
Correction: Originating In ancient Egyptian iconography; the Ouroboros entered western tradition through the Manga and Anime Full Metal Alchemist as an alchemical symbol
i watch it again in 2020 after several times before but, i still dont understand how she would know other peoples future or phrases or meaningful things about them, like the last words of any person, other than her own future experiences.
OMG thank you for the explanation! I sort of had an idea of basic understanding of this, but I thought it was quantum related. This refined my thought process and it is much more clear to me now.
The most realistic part of this film is how the militaries of the world decided that they would just attack the non hostile aliens for lack of understanding.
@Fire serpant he's right, beyonder had eyes to see. But you are also right, this is just a great piece of filmmaking that transcends to the level of art.
@Fire serpant haha, I hear you man. But we can teach the ones looking to take up from the dream. The others, 😕 they may be lost for to fear, brain washing and cognitive dissonance. Pray for them 🙏🏻😎🙏🏽
BingBing BongBong couldn’t wrap my head around what? That hilariously inaccurate docking scene? A silly, overly dramatic example of time dilation that was based on highly trained astronauts acting stupid? The fact that “love” will bring us all together? Yeah. You also probably think 2001 is about how legos created humanity. You’re not nearly as smart as you think you are for getting some banal concepts with no depth from Interstellar.
Angry - Vault - Inhabitant Its ploy is silly and character development is minimal at best; there’s practically no difference between any of the characters at the beginning through to the end. It’s mostly spectacle, with little actual meat.
it wasn't - the majority of audience felt patronised and cheated by the editing trick that opened the story with flash backs - which were really flash forwards but only possible after she encountered the hoptopods! What an awful awful movie... even worse it had the potential to be 10/10
Rocco Siffredi lmao what? No, gotta disagree here. The flash forwards WERE THE ENTIRE POINT. The majority of the audience felt patronized because the majority of audiences are stupid.
Rocco Siffredi 84% audience score on RT, 88% liked it on Google’s poll, 81% on Metacritic, 8.2 on IMDB. That’s not a majority of negative opinions in any form.
Possessing knowledge of future events would not change anything. In a truly deterministic universe, we would still be bound by one path. Louise knew her daughter would die and was powerless to stop it.
GODZILLA godzilla but knowing the result of a football match would make betting on the match pointless. As it will happen and nothing will change the result
All competitive sports, all art, all creativity, all motivation to do anything that depends on being able to change circumstances or any amount of randomness. All gone. This of course assumes they have a choice to NOT do those things. Like Banks in the movie, she knew she would have a daughter with Hawkeye, she knew she would die young (and horribly), and she was utterly, completely, 100% unable to alter a single thing. No early testing, knowing what would come. No telling Hawkeye. She goes through with it, because she has no choice. So in that case, sure, people would still bet, people would still play sports... because that's what they did, and they are unable to alter their actions in the slightest, no more so than a character in a book can change their mind if you go back a page. The erasure of the illusion of free will.
thats why i prefer the time branch theory that every choice creates a branching path as a example imagine you had 5 dollars and had to choose what you wanted more a big chocolate bar or a ice cream cone you pick the cone well there a universe outthere were the only diffrence was you choose the chocolate bar
Trust us to kill one of them, that is the problem with humanity, we think we are bigger than we actually are when in reality we are just a small part of something bigger.
Please, I figured that movie would be banned by our 74th president last year. But she instead endorsed it. Strange that she'd endorse an almost century old movie.
* *3000 years later the Aliens come back* * "Yeah we're in need of new teachers, not a single one of us wants to teach our pesky children, ugh! sooooo congratulations! you know our lenguage, you're hired!"
xX Valtiel Xx I thought similar. I think their way is dying. So they needed to find and teach their gift so when it comes their legacy doesn't die. The movie is about legacy. Louise's child and work are her legacy. The infinite symbol is also often connected to legacy.
That makes a TON of sense, Mister Spencer. And i'm not being sarcastic here, You just noticed some direct links to ANOTHER real world idea that has more than noticeable relevance at basically any time in the world, as well as being one of the many moral and psychological ideas that is seen as incredibly important. "If I die, will it be for nothing?" That simple question has made many people terrified, while many others find it either exciting or comforting. It all depends on their mental state and emotions at the time they think about it. Anyway, when I read what you said, suddenly, stuff just clicked in my head. It automatically made sense, somehow. Good work, Mister Spencer. Have a nice day.
I've also wondered about why they would need our help in 3000 years' time. I don't think we need a sequel to explain that because this film is good as a standalone, but I still wonder. Like the comments here mentioned could it be due to a loss of their language? An alien threat? I mean 3000 years from humanity, especially with the tool the aliens gifted them, would be WAY more advanced than we are now.
An intelligent alien race visits our planet, becomes allies with us, and then goes on to... get us to help take care of their annoying kids while they're out for the night
The answer to me seemed very clear after watching the movie. There were only two things humans were better at than the heptopods Killing: this breaks down into two possiblilities as to why the heptopods need our help they either need help killing an even more violent race than humans or they need to prevent humans from killing the heptopods 3000 years in the future. Algebra: the heptopods can't see end answers to problems they can't solve. As they can see time as a whole they can only see solutions to problems they eventually can solve. Think of seeing the back page of a math book with all the answers already completed. The heptopods know how to answer problems correctly but not truly solve the problems. Or they see all the steps of the problem being solved simultaneously, yet algebra requires sequential solving.
Wow... just wow... I scrolled down the comments seeking a reason why we need to help the interstellar-travel-capable-gravity-defying creatures. And the answer seemed disturbing for how close or is real
I am among the many who loved this movie. I found in it a sign of hope that we wouldn't destroy a thing just because we didn't understand it. How are we to be sure an entity is dangerous, hostile or peaceful and harmonious? I hope when the time does come, and I know it will, that we will have the knowedge to find difference.
I'm just after watching it and loved it. It also conveys the dangers of language if we fail to understand each other. If communications fail, violence will follow it.
Best we can do is hope we get the good types you speak of that want to connect grow and share together first and not the bad ones that want to kill every thing they find like the Independence Day aliens. The scary part is wondering which one will we encounter first.
This film uses elements from a hypothesis known as “Block Time”. She doesn’t see “into the future”, or the past. She perceives all of her timeline at once, as a whole. She appears to be able to focus on a particular point in her timeline, giving her the illusion of “now”. Her “now” can be any point, or all in compassing, depending on how she is choosing to view it. At least that’s the way I see this, which is due to my exposure to the block time hypothesis.
Very underrated comment because that's what I thought after I finished the movie. I was somewhat lost in what I saw. The protagonist just received her all existance from the aliens and she is constantly confused as to where in her life, she is, in the present, if there is one. as if she's in a dream with no start or begining but she knows all the events. Maybe that is the burden of knowing the future and the destruction of free will. Once you give in to that, you have arrived maybe like the title Arrival
Well if you guys don’t remember where she even says I don’t see all my memories from start to finish she always sees her memories as if they were in the middle .
@@SinisterShot1 I agree. It’s always “now” regardless of “when” she is perceiving. I assume you’re referring to the “middle” as being her perception of “now”. It’s a very interesting concept. It is easy to see memories as a form of time travel. I know it feels like something I’m remembering just happened, even if it was 40 years ago. So it’s not too difficult to see future events the same way. Perhaps that could explain déjà vu. We simply can’t, or don’t realize we can, change the course of events. 🤷🏻♂️
How can one reconcile free will with the hypothesis of block time? A timeline assumes all events that have or will happen. Unless every past and future choice is already determined then the theory holds no ground. I believe in free will. ie I decide which choices I make and they can never be predetermined.
I was born in Venezuela and raised in Maracay, and i remember when I saw this movie for the first time and saw that one of the alien locations was Maracay, I freaked out
@@jeffbrownme2 They can see the past and future. Humans are needed in their future but the humans couldnt get to that point unless they went back and taught them the language to communicate. They already saw the events and choose to go even though one dies. Because it must happen. Same as Amy Adam character still chooses to have her daughter even though she knows the future outcome of her young death. Its about appreciating and loving the moments/time you have now more because you know the results.
I know this is probably a minority opinion, but I actually do think that knowing the future can allow one to change it - and I'm not convinced that Hannah's early death is truly inevitable. There's a scene in the film where Hannah asks Louise what it's called when both sides get something they want; Louise calls it a win-win, but Hannah is looking for an answer that's "more sciency". At first Louise brushes her off, but then we see in the present Ian is talking about the concept of a non zero-sum game. We return to the flashback, and now Louise knows the answer - a non zero sum game. It's certainly open to interpretation. It could just be that Louise happened to remember that term at that point. But it certainly looks like information being transmitted from past-Louise to future-Louise, and changing her actions. After all, if you couldn't use the information you received through the language, you'd be like Doctor Manhattan - knowing everything that's going to happen, but unable to change it. It's hard to see how that could be considered a useful 'weapon'. So, I choose to believe that the future is not fixed, and that what they're seeing at any given time is what the future would be if they did not act on the information received.
Interesting comment. Causality and inverted causality loop, that's how I viewed that scene. The recall of a memory by future Louise is normal causality, while past Louise remembering that future memory completes the loop. I think that it's no coincidence the Heptapods written language is loopy. It seems like even for them there are limits to their prognostic perceptions. They perceive certain events in the future and past as linked, but they can't see all the events that lead to certain outcomes. Meaning that it may be impossible to change some future events. If my idea is true though, it would mean that knowing the future in limited causality/inverted causality loops still leaves you in a mainly deterministic universe, unable to truly change the future. I think the film bears this idea out. Why would the Heptapods be here, and willingly sacrific Abbott (or was it Costello, Heptapods all look alike to me lol) if there was another way?
Manhattan was outsmarted. Some of the information Louise gets must occur in the future otherwise she is creating information paradoxes and somehow learning things from sources that dont exist and never occur.
It kind of falls to the question then of is there such a thing as fate and choice? Because what this movie implies is that no matter what you’ll end up doing the same things. You have no choice and thus no free will. So you believe that you do have free will? Respectable. Though I fear that either there is only one timeline and thus everything is set or that should they actually do change it they’ll collapse time itself.
I agree. After watching it. I think there are scenerios that happened but then changed as the gifted alien language played out it's influence. The ships would have been attacked but just disappeared without retaliation proving the Chinese faction wrong and the world in disorder. The language would have been studied in depth by Banks who would develop the power of accessing future knowledge from herself. General Shang in regret, being aware of this uses this to send a message to himself to change his mind. In the instant he provides this Banks past is changes as she has the key information. A weapon where you can make changes in the future to affect the past. Rather than thinking of her of accessing the information from the future think of it as sending it back to the past as visions to change the present. In a sense the aliens are doing exactly the same thing by involving hummanity in their striuggle. They choose this scenerio and Abbott knows he must die but nevertheless is willing to sacrifice himself for his people.
I thought it was interesting that Louise and her husbands falling out following Hannahs diognosis was down to the revelation that she knew about it before Hannah was conceved, but hid the fact.
Very true there are words in other languages that convey emotions and feelings that cannot be translated into English.. Language is expansive and beautiful ❤️
@@disappearintothesea But I have to say that Math makes me see the world differently. Mathematics is considered a type language, therfore maybe that counts.
I vaguely understood the twist that happened at the end before I watched Arrival, but the story was portrayed so well that I had forgotten it and was shocked all over again. This movie is amazing. Editing, performance, visuals. All top notch and underrated.
I loved that the underlying theme was the circular\eternal nature of time itself. As you said, Hannah being a palindrome, the flashbacks\flashforwards that Louise sees, and even the similarity of the language and the Ourobos, hinting at the never-ending cycle of it. This is such a beautiful film, on so many levels.
@@djgroopz4952 How time works, if it's already happened once it'll happen again and can't be changed, so like how her daughter will die but she can't stop it
BingBing BongBong You probably think Interstellar has a better plot than 2001. Hint: you’re not smart for liking Interstellar. It has the depth of a puddle, but obscures it by making dumb people think they’re smart for “getting it”.
Did Abbot die from the explosion? In the film it says "Abbot is death process", not directly that it does from the implosion. This next argument mute be moot with the time processes in this universe, but personally I understood that "process" just meant he was unfit to continue the studying, and was dying, not dead. But with the heptapod language being ""timeless"", might mean that he just died.
Henry Ward-Raatikainen I’ve seen this theory that since the heptapods weren’t confined by time that even if they died that they were not actually dead. Like Abbot may have died but he is still able to go through his life in any order that he wants before his death, and is just restricted past his death point
they are still confined by time. how long they can live is not said. "death process" may simply be a language barrier. not all words have direct translations. though "death process" may be the same as the word "dying", i'm guessing it's just as literal of a translation as it could be without simplifying to how our language works. it's not speaking english to her after all. what i'm curious about is if you're able to perceive events in time that are not connected to your own experiences, or past your own lifespan. there isnt ever shown a "flash forward" vision of something she wasnt physically there for. If what you can see of time is bound by your ability to be in that moment would allude to the heptapods having extraordinarily long lifespans. or possibly technology/biology that allows them to transfer their consciousness to new bodies. i could be 100% wrong though lol.
@@tonyw1983 no I agree. I thought the same thing. Either the heptapods live 3,000 years or there some major technologies that allow them to see those events. The language just allows you to experience time non-linearly but that does not mean it allows you to teleport through space as well as time. You are restricted to your body in space but no single moment in time.
@@SchamaliDhali right, but if your body is not there at a specific time, then you cannot "experience" it regardless of your ability to perceive time non-linearly. i think long life spans is the probability. however, generationally, a future generation could pass back events from the future, up through the older generations to our present to deliver the warning. that would be rather unique!
You should read Scott Horton's Fool's Arrand, and Swanson's The War State U.S is anything but restraint.... we have currently 7 active wars, which lasting over a decade.
On surface level I want that too, but tbh I think the story was resolved in the end of the movie. The aliens did what they had to do and because time is circular, we can assume the Earthlings/humans will eventually help the heptapods. There wouldn’t be any conflict for a second film since we know what will happen due to the nature of the heltapod language.
@@ethanahmu6149 but the heptapods also can see the future, they saw a coming peril they needed help with. Knowing what's coming doesn't make it not happen. On second thought this movie is awesome and sequels are often absolute garbage so maybe it's best this is a once and done film
It would be really difficult for any sort of film to live up to the expectations that people will have from it being a mystery and open to interpretation.
A truly superb movie. The pace was just right. While it is considering science-fiction, it’s a testament to the world as it stands. Tolerance and understanding are the tools needed to ensure we all get along together. Look to the past for the diplomacy of our ancestors trying to avoid conflict and we can enjoy a future that is conflict free. Language is the real barrier. Knowing a language is different from comprehending it. Let’s all just get along with one another.
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Great video, BUT I would have liked it if you had touched on the relationship between Amy Adams's character and Jeremy Renner's character. They are Hannah's parents, but during the movie you are made to understand that they separated shortly after Hannah got sick. Amy Adam's character knew the Hanna would eventually get sick and die at a young age, BUT she kept that knowledge from Jeremy Renner's character so When Hannah got sick and Jeremy learned that Amy new all along that she would get sick and die at a young age he was upset that she never told him this would happen, had he been told of this he might have chosen to not have have a child with Amy, no adult if told, "Hey you are going to meet this woman and get married to her, the two of you are going to have a daughter and that daughter, in her late teens or very early twenties is going to die a slow and painful death, and your daughters death is going to tear you apart and you will never fully recover from her death" is going to say OK lets get married and make a baby so that we can both be torn apart by watching our beloved daughter slowly get sick and die over weeks/months!!! because that sounds like such fun! It was implied that Jeremy Renner's character was very upset with Amy's character for having never told him this and that is why they separated. Many people have children and many parents lose children at a young age, and it often times leads to the ending of the marriage due to the trauma that comes from losing a child. BUT there are many people who learn before they ever have children that they carry some kind of "genetic fault" that would cause them to pass that default gene onto their children should they ever chose to have a child, and so many/most of those people chose to adopt, or use a sperm/egg donor so that they can still be a parent but not pass a genetic default on to their children which will eventually lead to a slow and painful death for the child. Jeremy Renner's character felt betrayed by Amy's character for knowing what would happen and keeping quite about it. NOW one could say, well the future could not be changed, it had already been written in stone, BUT keeping something like that quiet and not letting your future spouse know is just dirty, it would be like knowing that you carry the "Huntington's Disease" gene and not telling your spouse and then you and your spouse begin having children and then when your child starts to display symptoms when they are 16 you say to your spouse "OH Yeah, BTW i knew I carried the Huntington's Disease Gene and, I was the one who passed the defect gene on to our child so now we get to watch our child slowly suffer and die and there is nothing either of us can do about it" How do you think most spouses would respond to that news?
Yeah. But would he had believed her after she told him? That's just like when a woman has girlfriends that tell her, "Chile, that man is no good; you need to dump him. I've seen him around town with other women." Then the woman might rationalize and be like "Oh. Maybe you misunderstood what you saw. Or, "Ok. So he has a wandering eye, but once he gets a taste of this, he won't be straying no more." People are told things outright a lot of the time, but we as individuals tend to think WE can be the one to change things and make an outcome different, even if the outcomes has been the same for thousands of other people in the same situation. Even though he met the heptapods himself, she was the only one that received the future revelation of their future together. So, yeah, he could believe that the aliens existed cuz he saw that with his own eyes. But having not been privy personally to the vision Amy's character had, he probably would have told her she was trippin'. But when you are in love with someone, you are willing to rail against the odds. So chances are, he would've have still procreated with her anyway. Even Amy's character was probably hoping that time was mutable and wasn't fixed & that her foreknowledge of her daughter's fate was given to her FOR the purpose of avoiding the tragedy of it by finding a cure or something.
I think a point made was that you could change the future, she chose to have her daughter knowing the husband would leave when she was diagnosed, and her daughter would die, she chose to treasure that time rather than choose different.
I somehow missed this film upon release. My wife and I watched it last night and it sorta broke us in the best of ways. It reaffirmed a deep sense I believe we all share that there is more to this life, world and existence than we can see. Stanley Kubrick would have been proud of this one.
Denis Villeneuve's Arrival is a thought provoking and emotional cerebral thriller, a mystery, like first contact itself. It's not about the Aliens, it's about us, mankind, our perceptions, how we view ourselves and deal with each other. Arrival along with Ryan Eslinger's 2018 film UFO are two of the best cinematic representations of what first contact could look like. Visually stunning with a phenomenal performance from Amy Adams, a great supporting cast, and a smart script make Arrival a not to miss film for all Science Fiction fans!
The Abyss is, in my unhindered opinion, a movie that is easy to watch multiple times. Watching the bonus features is as enjoyable as watching the movie is. The amount of effort that went into making that movie was astonishing.
I would really like to see a 2nd part to this movie. I’m sure they could come up with a good story line. Even if it involved different aliens or even The Borg.....ohh wow I’m going nuts being told to stay inside all the time lol
The key to Arrival is an esoteric concept known as the _Parousia,_ which means "arrival" in Greek and which is about the Second Coming (or arrival) of the Christ. The concept is likewise part of _prisca theologia_ ("ancient theology").
I think these are the most realistic aliens of any movie. Octopuses (octopi) are one of the most intelligent, agile, and resilient creatures on our planet. They're most likely the type of animals(if any) to survive in the oceans on icy moons/planets like Europa and Enceladus.
they vaguely resemble a human and octopus hyrbid, the bottom half are octopus-like legs (even though they have bones unlike octopi) and the upper half resembles a human torso and head.
Sapir- Whorf Hypothesis. Language determines our perception of the world-- including time. The alien language rewires the brain to allow you to perceive time simultaneously.
Somehow I don’t think that (9:45) would EVER be possible given that we have 7+ Billion on earth and most of that population hasn’t even mastered our own native tongue.
And how did the aliens know we'd be around to help them in the first place? Every day we seem on the verge of destruction since we're not loving and helping each other as we should be.
Problem with the ending is they completely invalidated the empathy for the main character. All she had to do was communicate with her romantic partner, but for the sake of plot exposition, she doesn’t. That means she’s not the kind, considerate, warm character they developed, but a cynical, narcissistic, sociopath.
I've always thought the film had a lot of problems. Visually, it's an interesting piece of work, but I agree, the script was flawed in some fundamental ways. After seeing it once, I had no desire to return to it, as the lead character is just a morose plot device.
luv this movie especially because it blindsides militaries that assume point on all FIRST CONTACT encounters and established '' we have met the enemy and it is us. WE ARE OUR OWN WORSE ENEMIES .
The movie raise a question "is our life/fated predetermined" & if you know the future (experience it have memory of it) will you change it or will you let it happen. A better question is can you actually change your future even if you know it? What if all the decision that you make will still lead to that future. what if you cannot change anything & your attempt to change something ultimately lead to the same end. What if your choice does not matter cause your story already written & you are just going through it.
There's a point where that line of argument has to fall apart. If you see yourself dying of old age, and instantly drink cyanide before putting a pistol into your mouth and pulling the trigger, then it is doubtful that any force of inevitability could render that vision of the future true. Same thing with the protag. If she knew that she would survive long enough to have a daughter, that might well cause her to take a risk that would result in her death and her daughter never coming to pass. She might well have decided to sterilize herself so that she could not conceive children. Whatever would cause the inevitability of time would then have to spontaneously undo those changes in order for Hannah to be born. If this were the way the universe worked, there would inevitably be 'superhuman' individuals that would not be able to die before time was ready for them to die and would quickly learn this after repeatedly defying death in the most unorthodox of ways. In short, the system would be one that could be gamed and this would not require you to even know the future, just that things were inevitable and you could roll the dice as many times as you liked until you finally hit the snake eyes that was your real death.
flyboymb I totally agree, I don’t think people understand that aliens are used in media to push social agendas. Nihilism and luciferianism is at the center of most Hollywood stories about the future. Science theories are just theories for a reason, Hollywood has made society believe in those theories.
I'm not into nihilism, I have my believe in God & Jesus Christ. I personally believe that life as we know it are beautiful things and have meaning. Although different ppl have diferent difinition of the meaning of life that mostly subjected to their upbringing & lifestyle. I have own my believe but i also understand the logic of science & its world view. I know that there are higher power & greater things out there that can make us seems insignificant. It same things like when we see ant beneath our feet and deem their life insignificant. Phylosophy & science are facinating idea that everyone should have the right to know. Do some reading, learn stuff build your knowledge & take in what useful to you. The worst things human can be is to be ignorant of all things other than their own view. Some ppl take their view to the extream & this is never a good thing.
Approaching it practically here, wouldn't the reason you saw yourself dying of old age or some incident is because of what you will do(in response to or not) and what happens after seeing it. It'd be like; "The reason I'm still alive now is because I have no balls to drink cyanide and shoot myself, I thought about it but..." or something like that. In that world where future viewing is possible, it will also have the governing mechanism for those events to be made possible, right? It will be part of their science and not be treated as supernatural(may take a while).
You get into a seriously interesting dichotomy into the differences between how humans perceive time *after studying the heptapod language* and how the heptapods themselves perceive time. The heptapods perceive time spherically - they are at a point on the sphere and all possible timelines radiate out from it. But the thing about a sphere is - you can take infinite paths around its circumference, but they all interesect at a point on the other side. The inflection point of the timeline, the thing that might be called "fate" - an unchangable future. But Louise learns, I think, to perceive time more like a hemisphere - possible timelines radate out but they all have DIFFERENT ends. She believes that the future is not something that is forever fixed, but that can be changed. Whether this is true or not in the context of the movie is left ambiguous.
She isn't travelling through time. She is viewing the world around her in a new way. It's essentially that the 4th dimension of time is becoming visible to her. Think of it this way. In comics, Deadpool and Joker are considered insane. Both characters are from comic books. Despite being 2 dimensional, they know they are in a comic book and that there is a higher dimension. They cannot interact with that dimension, however due to their knowledge of it their actions in the comics are effected according to the story. It is similar with Hannah. She is supposed to be like you or I, but what is different is that she has become aware of the higher dimension that we don't see completely, time. The aliens also can see reality in that same way but just like that 1 dimension being brought up in the video, they can only move 1 direction through time. They cannot save themselves, however humans can if our own perception is changed. The ending shows us that the aliens succeed as Hannah has gained that same perception and is pushing humanity as a whole to see in that way as well. Please tell me someone understood what I just said :(
Extremely underrated movie! I only just now watched it and loved every moment of it. I love to learn languages and make it my purpose to learn structure and pattern between languages even tho I can’t speak them. I completely understood what they meant by learning to think differently when learning a new language. Ahh I’m rambling. But I just wanted to say AMAZING movie. Really tickled my fancy for languages and my fancy of sci-fi!!!
YES! And, typical of what most people do who do not understand what time actually is ... a measurement that creates artificial boundaries within constant change.
its a horrible ending....its like hell. the future is fixed and there is no way to change anything. you know exactly everything you will ever do and how you die. and theres no hope of anything else ever happening. its what they warn about in DUNE. perfect prediction is death.
I'm glad this was one of the rare movies where the aliens don't just attack earth.
You don’t watch many movies, do you?
District 9
We should build that big and shiny walls to prevent aliens from coming in. Make murica great again.
markus martin America was never great, nor will it ever be. You probably cant even name what Greater America encompasses w/o googling it.
markus martin You couldn’t even say that in other countries without being persecuted so yeah America is pretty. Always has been.
I think it’s interesting that we humans still feel like the most alien-looking thing is a squid or octopus. It is possible they would be floating in their own atmosphere though and the gas is an artificial version.
People just aren't creative anymore, like Lovecraft or how some of those "angels" are supposed to look.
Bunch of floating eyes with giant ass wing like things, I think I'd take the squid like creature before that mind fuck of a being
The heptapods were neither squid nor octopus, but more like a hybrid between a humanoid and tentacle esque being
@@Tavis15ify I mean the depiction of those “angels” is biblically accurate. You can’t believe an angel looks like a white male with blue eyes when even the book responsible for creating and - up until now, the only “evidence” for them - says they don’t. I’m sorry, but you just can’t cheery-pick the Bible and remove things you don’t like or agree with.
Some scientists really believe they are literally aliens from another world, not earth
@@Tavis15ify The true meaning of the word "Alien" is that it means "Doesn't look belong on Earth" and those examples you picks does in fact look Alien including marine life specially Deep Sea Creatures. We think is this and that is because that's how Humans comprehend things they see.
You're not Smart.
You're not a Scientist
You're not even full time Employee.
This movie is pretty old and it's been a long time. One thing i do know is it's a great film. I've actually seen it listed in the free movie section of RUclips and have forgotten what it was all about until now. I guess I'll be adding it to my Playlist.
Audio is messed up. Narration keeps fading in and out, and is obscured by the sound-effects. Otherwise, loved it! Thanks!
Love that move! Except for the daughter part.
A video on the Protomolocule from The Expanse would be great :)
Yep its on the list :)
Omg yes. Loved that show. Such beautiful backgrounds that aren't CGI bullshit. I need another season.
I watched this in highschool in film study class almost 3 years ago. It was such a good movie and I was genuinely interested but all the class clowns kept ruining the experience for everyone else that actually wanted to watch the movie and the teacher had to keep pausing to tell them to shut up lol. Good times
ppl actually payed attention to movies in class?💀 even if i was interested i would just wait to watch it at home
Please make a video on the Harran virus from the dying light video game
Arrival begs the meaning of the open secret
alternative/ parallel universe
past present and future dimensions are created by actions in the present base line time...
the good, bad and the ugly heart,
actions have a direct relationship to the higher dimensions alternative realities predetermine outcomes.
Now that’s an introduction
Correction: Originating In ancient Egyptian iconography; the Ouroboros entered western tradition through the Manga and Anime Full Metal Alchemist as an alchemical symbol
i watch it again in 2020 after several times before but, i still dont understand how she would know other peoples future or phrases or meaningful things about them, like the last words of any person, other than her own future experiences.
OMG thank you for the explanation! I sort of had an idea of basic understanding of this, but I thought it was quantum related. This refined my thought process and it is much more clear to me now.
The most realistic part of this film is how the militaries of the world decided that they would just attack the non hostile aliens for lack of understanding.
Basically risking suicide because their technology is far superior to ours. Human arrogance at its finest.
Luckily as you'll see in the movie smart people told the military "oh no you don't. Thems good Aliens. They is our friendz"🥴😆
@@theglassmaster3140 Probably not too smart if they couldn't speak basic English.
Yeah, realistic because we have so many examples of aliens coming to earth and us attacking them.
@@romanuslureaus2176 thats like saying any animal isn't smart because they can't speak a language that is probaby primitive to theirs
Human: touches glass
Alien: slams tentacle hand again glass
"Beautifully reciprocated"
Cmon man, the thing is massive and weighs 20,000 lbs, nothing it does is going to seem gentle to us humans. 🤗
@Fire serpant he's right, beyonder had eyes to see. But you are also right, this is just a great piece of filmmaking that transcends to the level of art.
@Fire serpant haha, I hear you man. But we can teach the ones looking to take up from the dream. The others, 😕 they may be lost for to fear, brain washing and cognitive dissonance.
Pray for them 🙏🏻😎🙏🏽
@J C randy baby YEAAAH
IT'S JUST BEEN REVOKED.
The true power of a man is not his riches or land but his ability to understand that around him
Indeed.
Bruh it's too early for that deep stuff I haven't even had my coffee
THICC THANOS too woke to sleep 👁💯 its never too early for knowledge,
power is power
Yet we destry everything just for the lulz
This was a highly original alien flick.Very refreshing to see creativity like this on the big screen.
Yeah, super creative!
Arrival and interstellar. Probably the two best sci-fi movies of the 2010s.
Interstellar was ridiculous and people who like it are often desperately trying to seem intelligent.
BlownMacTruck awww. You’re mad cause you couldn’t wrap your head around it. Tsk tsk tsk. Pity.
BingBing BongBong couldn’t wrap my head around what? That hilariously inaccurate docking scene? A silly, overly dramatic example of time dilation that was based on highly trained astronauts acting stupid? The fact that “love” will bring us all together?
Yeah. You also probably think 2001 is about how legos created humanity. You’re not nearly as smart as you think you are for getting some banal concepts with no depth from Interstellar.
BlownMacTruck I just thought it was entertaining. Liked it way more then arrival
Angry - Vault - Inhabitant Its ploy is silly and character development is minimal at best; there’s practically no difference between any of the characters at the beginning through to the end. It’s mostly spectacle, with little actual meat.
This was a great movie and was extremely underrated
it wasn't - the majority of audience felt patronised and cheated by the editing trick that opened the story with flash backs - which were really flash forwards but only possible after she encountered the hoptopods! What an awful awful movie... even worse it had the potential to be 10/10
Rocco Siffredi lmao what? No, gotta disagree here. The flash forwards WERE THE ENTIRE POINT. The majority of the audience felt patronized because the majority of audiences are stupid.
Rocco Siffredi 84% audience score on RT, 88% liked it on Google’s poll, 81% on Metacritic, 8.2 on IMDB. That’s not a majority of negative opinions in any form.
Thank you bob ross
This movie predicted communicating with just pictures...... memes
Hawkeye is cheating with supermans girl.
"Nice"
No wonder we didnt see Hawkeye in infinity war lol
@@AlpineStudiosInc he was dealing with real aliens an a real infinity war!! Hehe
Cause Hawkeye always hits the mark 😉
Now THIS is an ambitious crossover.
Well that would spoil the betting industry
Possessing knowledge of future events would not change anything. In a truly deterministic universe, we would still be bound by one path. Louise knew her daughter would die and was powerless to stop it.
GODZILLA godzilla but knowing the result of a football match would make betting on the match pointless. As it will happen and nothing will change the result
yh but if they could see the result why would they even bother to play the match lol all competitive sport would be pointless
All competitive sports, all art, all creativity, all motivation to do anything that depends on being able to change circumstances or any amount of randomness. All gone.
This of course assumes they have a choice to NOT do those things. Like Banks in the movie, she knew she would have a daughter with Hawkeye, she knew she would die young (and horribly), and she was utterly, completely, 100% unable to alter a single thing. No early testing, knowing what would come. No telling Hawkeye. She goes through with it, because she has no choice.
So in that case, sure, people would still bet, people would still play sports... because that's what they did, and they are unable to alter their actions in the slightest, no more so than a character in a book can change their mind if you go back a page.
The erasure of the illusion of free will.
thats why i prefer the time branch theory that every choice creates a branching path as a example imagine you had 5 dollars and had to choose what you wanted more a big chocolate bar or a ice cream cone you pick the cone well there a universe outthere were the only diffrence was you choose the chocolate bar
The aliens were so damn cool
It’s a reaper you moron
Were they though?
@@guywithachromemask6260 nah its an alien bucko
Hentai tentacle monsta
Trust us to kill one of them, that is the problem with humanity, we think we are bigger than we actually are when in reality we are just a small part of something bigger.
This was a visually stunning film. Which is directed by the same man who did Blade Runner 2049.
Indeed!
wtf
Please, I figured that movie would be banned by our 74th president last year. But she instead endorsed it. Strange that she'd endorse an almost century old movie.
Gipsy Danger And Sicario, another great one
Just wait for Dune.
* *3000 years later the Aliens come back* *
"Yeah we're in need of new teachers, not a single one of us wants to teach our pesky children, ugh! sooooo congratulations! you know our lenguage, you're hired!"
xX Valtiel Xx I thought similar. I think their way is dying. So they needed to find and teach their gift so when it comes their legacy doesn't die. The movie is about legacy. Louise's child and work are her legacy. The infinite symbol is also often connected to legacy.
That makes a TON of sense, Mister Spencer. And i'm not being sarcastic here, You just noticed some direct links to ANOTHER real world idea that has more than noticeable relevance at basically any time in the world, as well as being one of the many moral and psychological ideas that is seen as incredibly important. "If I die, will it be for nothing?" That simple question has made many people terrified, while many others find it either exciting or comforting. It all depends on their mental state and emotions at the time they think about it. Anyway, when I read what you said, suddenly, stuff just clicked in my head. It automatically made sense, somehow. Good work, Mister Spencer. Have a nice day.
I've also wondered about why they would need our help in 3000 years' time. I don't think we need a sequel to explain that because this film is good as a standalone, but I still wonder. Like the comments here mentioned could it be due to a loss of their language? An alien threat? I mean 3000 years from humanity, especially with the tool the aliens gifted them, would be WAY more advanced than we are now.
An intelligent alien race visits our planet, becomes allies with us, and then goes on to... get us to help take care of their annoying kids while they're out for the night
crap! We're babysitters? uh huh.... no way. You couldn't pay me enough to handle those little hepta-satans.
The answer to me seemed very clear after watching the movie. There were only two things humans were better at than the heptopods
Killing: this breaks down into two possiblilities as to why the heptopods need our help they either need help killing an even more violent race than humans or they need to prevent humans from killing the heptopods 3000 years in the future.
Algebra: the heptopods can't see end answers to problems they can't solve. As they can see time as a whole they can only see solutions to problems they eventually can solve. Think of seeing the back page of a math book with all the answers already completed. The heptopods know how to answer problems correctly but not truly solve the problems. Or they see all the steps of the problem being solved simultaneously, yet algebra requires sequential solving.
huh thanks for clarifying this up for me
Wow... just wow... I scrolled down the comments seeking a reason why we need to help the interstellar-travel-capable-gravity-defying creatures. And the answer seemed disturbing for how close or is real
Amazing comment.
Sounds made up I dig it
Very nice! 👌
Do you write short stories or novels?
I am among the many who loved this movie. I found in it a sign of hope that we wouldn't destroy a thing just because we didn't understand it. How are we to be sure an entity is dangerous, hostile or peaceful and harmonious? I hope when the time does come, and I know it will, that we will have the knowedge to find difference.
Your not alone man. It's a great movie
I'm just after watching it and loved it. It also conveys the dangers of language if we fail to understand each other. If communications fail, violence will follow it.
Well I suggest we work on communicating with other humans, from other nations, and cultures. That's a good start, eh?
Jackie Carranco, why don't you apply those skills now, instead of waiting for aliens to arrive!
Best we can do is hope we get the good types you speak of that want to connect grow and share together first and not the bad ones that want to kill every thing they find like the Independence Day aliens. The scary part is wondering which one will we encounter first.
This film uses elements from a hypothesis known as “Block Time”. She doesn’t see “into the future”, or the past. She perceives all of her timeline at once, as a whole. She appears to be able to focus on a particular point in her timeline, giving her the illusion of “now”. Her “now” can be any point, or all in compassing, depending on how she is choosing to view it. At least that’s the way I see this, which is due to my exposure to the block time hypothesis.
Very underrated comment because that's what I thought after I finished the movie. I was somewhat lost in what I saw. The protagonist just received her all existance from the aliens and she is constantly confused as to where in her life, she is, in the present, if there is one. as if she's in a dream with no start or begining but she knows all the events. Maybe that is the burden of knowing the future and the destruction of free will. Once you give in to that, you have arrived maybe like the title Arrival
My thought exactly. Her body is present “here” but the time she experience could be anywhere..
Well if you guys don’t remember where she even says I don’t see all my memories from start to finish she always sees her memories as if they were in the middle .
@@SinisterShot1 I agree. It’s always “now” regardless of “when” she is perceiving. I assume you’re referring to the “middle” as being her perception of “now”. It’s a very interesting concept. It is easy to see memories as a form of time travel. I know it feels like something I’m remembering just happened, even if it was 40 years ago. So it’s not too difficult to see future events the same way. Perhaps that could explain déjà vu. We simply can’t, or don’t realize we can, change the course of events. 🤷🏻♂️
How can one reconcile free will with the hypothesis of block time? A timeline assumes all events that have or will happen. Unless every past and future choice is already determined then the theory holds no ground. I believe in free will. ie I decide which choices I make and they can never be predetermined.
It’s a shame we will never see what happens with the Aliens.
Give it 3000 years
IN 3000 YEARS AFTER THIS MOVIE RELEASED, THEY WILL RELEASE ANOTHER MOVIE ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN WITH THE ALIENS
Liamggbb123 that’s why it makes the movie good
watch “fifth element” to find out lol
Learn the language and see 3000 years into the future
2016: Arrival
2020: Departure
If you're talking about Trump, then you have just predicted the future.
@@elroyfudbucker6806 😹😹
Can you imagine what it would feel like to be able to think of a story this original and compelling? Such a good movie
We seriously need more sci-fi/cosmic horror movies in the industry.
One of my favs
“In 3000 years we need humanity’s help.”
Rampant starvation engulfs alien world. They return and eat all humans.
They secretly direct society to become fat, lazy and stupid so they can come back to harvest us. Oh wait.
Loool that’s funny but why would they give us the keys to seeing the future then, we would just prepare for they asses
😂
@MissJiggy2U Gracias! I know the joke sucked but thank you anyway :)
I was born in Venezuela and raised in Maracay, and i remember when I saw this movie for the first time and saw that one of the alien locations was Maracay, I freaked out
Same here!! Lol
I think it’s safe to say the aliens would freak out at the state of Venezuela
I've always been a fan of hard science fiction so I loved this movie. My brother was just confused about why the aliens came to earth
Send him a link to this vid, it will clarify any confusion he might have :)
They said they came because the humans help them in 3000 years.
@@jeffbrownme2 They can see the past and future. Humans are needed in their future but the humans couldnt get to that point unless they went back and taught them the language to communicate. They already saw the events and choose to go even though one dies. Because it must happen. Same as Amy Adam character still chooses to have her daughter even though she knows the future outcome of her young death. Its about appreciating and loving the moments/time you have now more because you know the results.
@@michaelbrewer9074 I think that's silly. That poor girl suffered. Amy bringing her into the world anyway is a cruel and selfish act.
@@jeffbrownme2 They're far more advanced than we are yet they need our help? Ridiculous lol
I know this is probably a minority opinion, but I actually do think that knowing the future can allow one to change it - and I'm not convinced that Hannah's early death is truly inevitable.
There's a scene in the film where Hannah asks Louise what it's called when both sides get something they want; Louise calls it a win-win, but Hannah is looking for an answer that's "more sciency". At first Louise brushes her off, but then we see in the present Ian is talking about the concept of a non zero-sum game. We return to the flashback, and now Louise knows the answer - a non zero sum game.
It's certainly open to interpretation. It could just be that Louise happened to remember that term at that point. But it certainly looks like information being transmitted from past-Louise to future-Louise, and changing her actions.
After all, if you couldn't use the information you received through the language, you'd be like Doctor Manhattan - knowing everything that's going to happen, but unable to change it. It's hard to see how that could be considered a useful 'weapon'. So, I choose to believe that the future is not fixed, and that what they're seeing at any given time is what the future would be if they did not act on the information received.
Very underrated comment that makes perfect sense
Interesting comment. Causality and inverted causality loop, that's how I viewed that scene. The recall of a memory by future Louise is normal causality, while past Louise remembering that future memory completes the loop. I think that it's no coincidence the Heptapods written language is loopy. It seems like even for them there are limits to their prognostic perceptions. They perceive certain events in the future and past as linked, but they can't see all the events that lead to certain outcomes. Meaning that it may be impossible to change some future events. If my idea is true though, it would mean that knowing the future in limited causality/inverted causality loops still leaves you in a mainly deterministic universe, unable to truly change the future.
I think the film bears this idea out. Why would the Heptapods be here, and willingly sacrific Abbott (or was it Costello, Heptapods all look alike to me lol) if there was another way?
Manhattan was outsmarted. Some of the information Louise gets must occur in the future otherwise she is creating information paradoxes and somehow learning things from sources that dont exist and never occur.
It kind of falls to the question then of is there such a thing as fate and choice? Because what this movie implies is that no matter what you’ll end up doing the same things. You have no choice and thus no free will.
So you believe that you do have free will? Respectable. Though I fear that either there is only one timeline and thus everything is set or that should they actually do change it they’ll collapse time itself.
I agree. After watching it. I think there are scenerios that happened but then changed as the gifted alien language played out it's influence. The ships would have been attacked but just disappeared without retaliation proving the Chinese faction wrong and the world in disorder. The language would have been studied in depth by Banks who would develop the power of accessing future knowledge from herself. General Shang in regret, being aware of this uses this to send a message to himself to change his mind. In the instant he provides this Banks past is changes as she has the key information. A weapon where you can make changes in the future to affect the past. Rather than thinking of her of accessing the information from the future think of it as sending it back to the past as visions to change the present.
In a sense the aliens are doing exactly the same thing by involving hummanity in their striuggle. They choose this scenerio and Abbott knows he must die but nevertheless is willing to sacrifice himself for his people.
I thought it was interesting that Louise and her husbands falling out following Hannahs diognosis was down to the revelation that she knew about it before Hannah was conceved, but hid the fact.
I found it interesting how Louise’s husband- a smart individual like her - couldn’t learn the alien language too and see into the future.
Resolved: The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is legitimate. Becoming fluent in another language alters your thoughts.
Very true there are words in other languages that convey emotions and feelings that cannot be translated into English.. Language is expansive and beautiful ❤️
People who speaks more than one language already knows this. Thanks.
@@disappearintothesea I speak fourth languages and I don't feel that this hypothesis is true. 😭 Maybe because they are all originated in Europe. 🤔
@@disappearintothesea But I have to say that Math makes me see the world differently. Mathematics is considered a type language, therfore maybe that counts.
@@sebasluna6278 I speak English and Ebonics and it helps me see rap videos differently
I vaguely understood the twist that happened at the end before I watched Arrival, but the story was portrayed so well that I had forgotten it and was shocked all over again. This movie is amazing. Editing, performance, visuals. All top notch and underrated.
I loved that the underlying theme was the circular\eternal nature of time itself. As you said, Hannah being a palindrome, the flashbacks\flashforwards that Louise sees, and even the similarity of the language and the Ourobos, hinting at the never-ending cycle of it. This is such a beautiful film, on so many levels.
“Abbott is death process”
That made me really sad :(
I wonder why Abbott had to be dying?
@@djgroopz4952 the explosion. he is tapping on the glass warning them of the explosion. costello runs away and abbot force pushes them and dies
@@djgroopz4952 How time works, if it's already happened once it'll happen again and can't be changed, so like how her daughter will die but she can't stop it
Arrival, Annihilation and Interstellar are probably the best movies I’ve ever seen.
As soon as someone says Interstellar was good, I immediately discount their opinions on anything else.
Frankie 431 lmao this Mactruck Guy is a hillbilly who’s just mad cause it wasn’t like transformers or some Michael bay film hahahaha
BlownMacTruck ^^^
BingBing BongBong You probably think Interstellar has a better plot than 2001. Hint: you’re not smart for liking Interstellar. It has the depth of a puddle, but obscures it by making dumb people think they’re smart for “getting it”.
Interstellar made me cry hard
When you know you can SMASH that like before the video starts
what?
Oh yeah, a movie in which I had no idea what was going on for pretty much the entire time.
Thanks for this.
haha you sound like my mom who wouldn't had a clue of anything even after the movie was over.
U gotta pay full attention to this movie, no phone, no nothing
IP Films I tried, the moment the time circle language stuff started, my brain took a vacation to the Bahamas
Ducati Dave Nice response, glad to see small children in a two month old comment thread
It... Was it seriously that complicated to understand?
Unfathomably deep and intriguing movie comes out in modern times
All people care about is the skurry monster!
Damn them idiots had to kill the other big homie, RIP Abbot🙏🏿
Did Abbot die from the explosion? In the film it says "Abbot is death process", not directly that it does from the implosion. This next argument mute be moot with the time processes in this universe, but personally I understood that "process" just meant he was unfit to continue the studying, and was dying, not dead. But with the heptapod language being ""timeless"", might mean that he just died.
Henry Ward-Raatikainen I’ve seen this theory that since the heptapods weren’t confined by time that even if they died that they were not actually dead. Like Abbot may have died but he is still able to go through his life in any order that he wants before his death, and is just restricted past his death point
they are still confined by time. how long they can live is not said. "death process" may simply be a language barrier. not all words have direct translations. though "death process" may be the same as the word "dying", i'm guessing it's just as literal of a translation as it could be without simplifying to how our language works. it's not speaking english to her after all.
what i'm curious about is if you're able to perceive events in time that are not connected to your own experiences, or past your own lifespan. there isnt ever shown a "flash forward" vision of something she wasnt physically there for. If what you can see of time is bound by your ability to be in that moment would allude to the heptapods having extraordinarily long lifespans. or possibly technology/biology that allows them to transfer their consciousness to new bodies.
i could be 100% wrong though lol.
@@tonyw1983 no I agree. I thought the same thing. Either the heptapods live 3,000 years or there some major technologies that allow them to see those events. The language just allows you to experience time non-linearly but that does not mean it allows you to teleport through space as well as time. You are restricted to your body in space but no single moment in time.
@@SchamaliDhali right, but if your body is not there at a specific time, then you cannot "experience" it regardless of your ability to perceive time non-linearly.
i think long life spans is the probability. however, generationally, a future generation could pass back events from the future, up through the older generations to our present to deliver the warning. that would be rather unique!
@@tonyw1983 yes I agree with you. You can move throughout your time span in the universe but not outside.
Interesting yet scary!!
It's like could you tap the glass a bit softer. You a scary looking guy.
Alien, “oh nah, fam.”
Rosales214fly righttttttttttt
Wow, it really IS Science Fiction when the US is the one calling for restraint and understanding and not just using ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.
President Trump is the first Commander-in-Chief NOT to go to war since Coolidge.
You should read Scott Horton's Fool's Arrand, and Swanson's The War State
U.S is anything but restraint.... we have currently 7 active wars, which lasting over a decade.
I hope they make a sequel to this, 3000 years when the favor we owe comes due
On surface level I want that too, but tbh I think the story was resolved in the end of the movie. The aliens did what they had to do and because time is circular, we can assume the Earthlings/humans will eventually help the heptapods. There wouldn’t be any conflict for a second film since we know what will happen due to the nature of the heltapod language.
@@ethanahmu6149 but the heptapods also can see the future, they saw a coming peril they needed help with. Knowing what's coming doesn't make it not happen. On second thought this movie is awesome and sequels are often absolute garbage so maybe it's best this is a once and done film
It would be really difficult for any sort of film to live up to the expectations that people will have from it being a mystery and open to interpretation.
A truly superb movie. The pace was just right. While it is considering science-fiction, it’s a testament to the world as it stands.
Tolerance and understanding are the tools needed to ensure we all get along together. Look to the past for the diplomacy of our ancestors trying to avoid conflict and we can enjoy a future that is conflict free.
Language is the real barrier. Knowing a language is different from comprehending it.
Let’s all just get along with one another.
This movie provoked a deep emotional reaction in me. A movie has never made me feel this way before. I will always love it.
Finally someone did a video on this thank you nyad (hope I’m getting this correct)
No worries buddy! its Niyat Btw :)
BLITZ STAR is that an Osiris eye I see?
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Great video, BUT I would have liked it if you had touched on the relationship between Amy Adams's character and Jeremy Renner's character. They are Hannah's parents, but during the movie you are made to understand that they separated shortly after Hannah got sick. Amy Adam's character knew the Hanna would eventually get sick and die at a young age, BUT she kept that knowledge from Jeremy Renner's character so When Hannah got sick and Jeremy learned that Amy new all along that she would get sick and die at a young age he was upset that she never told him this would happen, had he been told of this he might have chosen to not have have a child with Amy, no adult if told, "Hey you are going to meet this woman and get married to her, the two of you are going to have a daughter and that daughter, in her late teens or very early twenties is going to die a slow and painful death, and your daughters death is going to tear you apart and you will never fully recover from her death" is going to say OK lets get married and make a baby so that we can both be torn apart by watching our beloved daughter slowly get sick and die over weeks/months!!! because that sounds like such fun!
It was implied that Jeremy Renner's character was very upset with Amy's character for having never told him this and that is why they separated.
Many people have children and many parents lose children at a young age, and it often times leads to the ending of the marriage due to the trauma that comes from losing a child. BUT there are many people who learn before they ever have children that they carry some kind of "genetic fault" that would cause them to pass that default gene onto their children should they ever chose to have a child, and so many/most of those people chose to adopt, or use a sperm/egg donor so that they can still be a parent but not pass a genetic default on to their children which will eventually lead to a slow and painful death for the child. Jeremy Renner's character felt betrayed by Amy's character for knowing what would happen and keeping quite about it.
NOW one could say, well the future could not be changed, it had already been written in stone, BUT keeping something like that quiet and not letting your future spouse know is just dirty, it would be like knowing that you carry the "Huntington's Disease" gene and not telling your spouse and then you and your spouse begin having children and then when your child starts to display symptoms when they are 16 you say to your spouse "OH Yeah, BTW i knew I carried the Huntington's Disease Gene and, I was the one who passed the defect gene on to our child so now we get to watch our child slowly suffer and die and there is nothing either of us can do about it" How do you think most spouses would respond to that news?
tbirum I think part of the point of the movie is the inescapable fortitude of fate, maybe that’s just my impression though.
Yeah. But would he had believed her after she told him? That's just like when a woman has girlfriends that tell her, "Chile, that man is no good; you need to dump him. I've seen him around town with other women." Then the woman might rationalize and be like "Oh. Maybe you misunderstood what you saw. Or, "Ok. So he has a wandering eye, but once he gets a taste of this, he won't be straying no more." People are told things outright a lot of the time, but we as individuals tend to think WE can be the one to change things and make an outcome different, even if the outcomes has been the same for thousands of other people in the same situation. Even though he met the heptapods himself, she was the only one that received the future revelation of their future together. So, yeah, he could believe that the aliens existed cuz he saw that with his own eyes. But having not been privy personally to the vision Amy's character had, he probably would have told her she was trippin'. But when you are in love with someone, you are willing to rail against the odds.
So chances are, he would've have still procreated with her anyway. Even Amy's character was probably hoping that time was mutable and wasn't fixed & that her foreknowledge of her daughter's fate was given to her FOR the purpose of avoiding the tragedy of it by finding a cure or something.
I really loved this film, and the short story it's Base on was really well researched you can tell
Amy Adams is the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen.
Eew.
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*Give them anime. It will be wonderful!*
Only they are tentacle monster so it will be fun on both sides
honestly this comment reminded me of koro-sensei from assassination classroom
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I think a point made was that you could change the future, she chose to have her daughter knowing the husband would leave when she was diagnosed, and her daughter would die, she chose to treasure that time rather than choose different.
A similar theme and tone is Annihilation.
I somehow missed this film upon release. My wife and I watched it last night and it sorta broke us in the best of ways. It reaffirmed a deep sense I believe we all share that there is more to this life, world and existence than we can see. Stanley Kubrick would have been proud of this one.
Denis Villeneuve's Arrival is a thought provoking and emotional cerebral thriller, a mystery, like first contact itself. It's not about the Aliens, it's about us, mankind, our perceptions, how we view ourselves and deal with each other. Arrival along with Ryan Eslinger's 2018 film UFO are two of the best cinematic representations of what first contact could look like. Visually stunning with a phenomenal performance from Amy Adams, a great supporting cast, and a smart script make Arrival a not to miss film for all Science Fiction fans!
This video just describes and synthesizes the movie plot. There's no analysis or explanation at all.
Exactly.
They do it w every vid. Never just explain rather a summary...
@@LOCO4CHRIST no it wasn't
Yeah I watched the Oblivion one and was like... wtf this is just a summary. Which is why I watched this one, because I didn't watch the movie heh...
@@zippo718 now you don't need to since everything in the movie was shown/explained here. Reason I am blocking this content provider.
A video on the movie the abyss would be great
Keep up the great content
Great suggestion! will add it to the list now, thanks :)
I highly recommend the book. There are so many things that the film didn't and couldn't show that you will find there.
@@robertsgarlata7552 As is the norm between the books and movies.
The Abyss is, in my unhindered opinion, a movie that is easy to watch multiple times. Watching the bonus features is as enjoyable as watching the movie is. The amount of effort that went into making that movie was astonishing.
Amy Adams just does it for me
Best looking woman in Hollywood
I just rewatched this for the first time in like 2 years and damn I forgot how good it was
I would really like to see a 2nd part to this movie. I’m sure they could come up with a good story line. Even if it involved different aliens or even The Borg.....ohh wow I’m going nuts being told to stay inside all the time lol
The key to Arrival is an esoteric concept known as the _Parousia,_ which means "arrival" in Greek and which is about the Second Coming (or arrival) of the Christ. The concept is likewise part of _prisca theologia_ ("ancient theology").
Smartly done. Your analytical skills and ability to narrate well has been awesome.
I think these are the most realistic aliens of any movie. Octopuses (octopi) are one of the most intelligent, agile, and resilient creatures on our planet. They're most likely the type of animals(if any) to survive in the oceans on icy moons/planets like Europa and Enceladus.
they vaguely resemble a human and octopus hyrbid, the bottom half are octopus-like legs (even though they have bones unlike octopi) and the upper half resembles a human torso and head.
Thank you for your content you don’t know how much it means to me.
No worries buddy!
The most unbelievable thing about this movie is that the Chinese wouldn't try to eat the aliens.
I’m confused how learning the alien’s language would allow you to see into your own future
Sapir- Whorf Hypothesis. Language determines our perception of the world-- including time. The alien language rewires the brain to allow you to perceive time simultaneously.
Good stuff! Love the channels and the movies you discuss. Truly enlightening and educational
Thanks Ynte!
I LOVED this movie. The soundtrack is so so good.
Somehow I don’t think that (9:45) would EVER be possible given that we have 7+ Billion on earth and most of that population hasn’t even mastered our own native tongue.
I absolutely fell in love with this film/story. It was cast so well and the musical score is so beautiful....that violin solo 🎻 🎶 🎶
I had a terrible time parsing the details of this film. It did not help that the sound-track SUCKED. Amateur audio.
This was a great movie and I wish it was expanded upon further.
But what did the aliens need help with in 3,000 years?
Dasani watch “Fifth element” to find out
Superbed3 is that connected to this movie? And wasn’t the fifth element set in the 23rd century?
And how did the aliens know we'd be around to help them in the first place? Every day we seem on the verge of destruction since we're not loving and helping each other as we should be.
Teresa Haviland but... they could see into the future so of course they would know
Watch "To Serve Man" episode from Twilight Zone
Thank god for this video I hated this movie because I didn’t understand the ending
Blue Shadow how did you not understand the ending it’s was simple as hell?
This story is underrated
I was hoping you explained this
Well, you're definitely right about one thing...
Amy Adams is fantastic. 👍
Problem with the ending is they completely invalidated the empathy for the main character. All she had to do was communicate with her romantic partner, but for the sake of plot exposition, she doesn’t. That means she’s not the kind, considerate, warm character they developed, but a cynical, narcissistic, sociopath.
I've always thought the film had a lot of problems. Visually, it's an interesting piece of work, but I agree, the script was flawed in some fundamental ways. After seeing it once, I had no desire to return to it, as the lead character is just a morose plot device.
@@redadamearth "Morose plot device" -- very well said
If one of these aliens fell over, how does he/she/it get back up? Saw legs, but no arms.
They's change the gravity around them.
This is one of those movies that needs a Sequel, incredibly great and complex movie
British accent: "Hanner"
Everyone else: "Hannah"
I watch all of your content when I'm doing homework, it puts me into such a focused headspace
Finding alien life is bad and finding alien ruins would be even worse because it would be proof of the great filter
Any Adams has rapidly become one of my favorite actors..plus she's gorgeous
luv this movie especially because it blindsides militaries that assume point on all FIRST CONTACT encounters and established '' we have met the enemy and it is us.
WE ARE OUR OWN WORSE ENEMIES .
why did it feel like i knew what you were going to say?
The movie raise a question "is our life/fated predetermined" & if you know the future (experience it have memory of it) will you change it or will you let it happen.
A better question is can you actually change your future even if you know it?
What if all the decision that you make will still lead to that future.
what if you cannot change anything & your attempt to change something ultimately lead to the same end.
What if your choice does not matter cause your story already written & you are just going through it.
RexorCall Skyline this is essentially nihilism. Using aliens “hygalian dialect” is the only way to get humans to really ponder that ideology.
There's a point where that line of argument has to fall apart. If you see yourself dying of old age, and instantly drink cyanide before putting a pistol into your mouth and pulling the trigger, then it is doubtful that any force of inevitability could render that vision of the future true. Same thing with the protag. If she knew that she would survive long enough to have a daughter, that might well cause her to take a risk that would result in her death and her daughter never coming to pass. She might well have decided to sterilize herself so that she could not conceive children. Whatever would cause the inevitability of time would then have to spontaneously undo those changes in order for Hannah to be born. If this were the way the universe worked, there would inevitably be 'superhuman' individuals that would not be able to die before time was ready for them to die and would quickly learn this after repeatedly defying death in the most unorthodox of ways.
In short, the system would be one that could be gamed and this would not require you to even know the future, just that things were inevitable and you could roll the dice as many times as you liked until you finally hit the snake eyes that was your real death.
flyboymb I totally agree, I don’t think people understand that aliens are used in media to push social agendas. Nihilism and luciferianism is at the center of most Hollywood stories about the future. Science theories are just theories for a reason, Hollywood has made society believe in those theories.
I'm not into nihilism, I have my believe in God & Jesus Christ. I personally believe that life as we know it are beautiful things and have meaning. Although different ppl have diferent difinition of the meaning of life that mostly subjected to their upbringing & lifestyle.
I have own my believe but i also understand the logic of science & its world view. I know that there are higher power & greater things out there that can make us seems insignificant. It same things like when we see ant beneath our feet and deem their life insignificant.
Phylosophy & science are facinating idea that everyone should have the right to know. Do some reading, learn stuff build your knowledge & take in what useful to you.
The worst things human can be is to be ignorant of all things other than their own view. Some ppl take their view to the extream & this is never a good thing.
Approaching it practically here, wouldn't the reason you saw yourself dying of old age or some incident is because of what you will do(in response to or not) and what happens after seeing it.
It'd be like; "The reason I'm still alive now is because I have no balls to drink cyanide and shoot myself, I thought about it but..." or something like that.
In that world where future viewing is possible, it will also have the governing mechanism for those events to be made possible, right? It will be part of their science and not be treated as supernatural(may take a while).
You get into a seriously interesting dichotomy into the differences between how humans perceive time *after studying the heptapod language* and how the heptapods themselves perceive time.
The heptapods perceive time spherically - they are at a point on the sphere and all possible timelines radiate out from it. But the thing about a sphere is - you can take infinite paths around its circumference, but they all interesect at a point on the other side. The inflection point of the timeline, the thing that might be called "fate" - an unchangable future.
But Louise learns, I think, to perceive time more like a hemisphere - possible timelines radate out but they all have DIFFERENT ends. She believes that the future is not something that is forever fixed, but that can be changed. Whether this is true or not in the context of the movie is left ambiguous.
Beautiful film and somewhat confusing first time around. But it all made sense and I appreciated it even more.
She isn't travelling through time. She is viewing the world around her in a new way. It's essentially that the 4th dimension of time is becoming visible to her.
Think of it this way. In comics, Deadpool and Joker are considered insane. Both characters are from comic books. Despite being 2 dimensional, they know they are in a comic book and that there is a higher dimension. They cannot interact with that dimension, however due to their knowledge of it their actions in the comics are effected according to the story.
It is similar with Hannah. She is supposed to be like you or I, but what is different is that she has become aware of the higher dimension that we don't see completely, time.
The aliens also can see reality in that same way but just like that 1 dimension being brought up in the video, they can only move 1 direction through time. They cannot save themselves, however humans can if our own perception is changed. The ending shows us that the aliens succeed as Hannah has gained that same perception and is pushing humanity as a whole to see in that way as well.
Please tell me someone understood what I just said :(
Extremely underrated movie! I only just now watched it and loved every moment of it. I love to learn languages and make it my purpose to learn structure and pattern between languages even tho I can’t speak them. I completely understood what they meant by learning to think differently when learning a new language. Ahh I’m rambling. But I just wanted to say AMAZING movie. Really tickled my fancy for languages and my fancy of sci-fi!!!
Do the alien/mimic creature from Annihilation, please! That one is really twisted :D
This wasn't an explanation. It was just a "cliff-note" version of the movie
YES! And, typical of what most people do who do not understand what time actually is ... a measurement that creates artificial boundaries within constant change.
Exactly. Time is a human construct not universal.
its a horrible ending....its like hell. the future is fixed and there is no way to change anything. you know exactly everything you will ever do and how you die. and theres no hope of anything else ever happening. its what they warn about in DUNE. perfect prediction is death.