Why STI ETF Is A BAD Investment?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
  • Warren Buffett had always told investors to invest in index funds. For Singaporeans, the index funds would be the Straits Times Index, or STI ETF. There are many people recommending STI ETF, however I do not believe that it is a good investment. Here’s why.
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Комментарии • 136

  • @yyobbigmmama
    @yyobbigmmama 3 года назад +21

    Underrated financial youtuber! This guy deserves more likes! For his jokes too

  • @PearlynChong
    @PearlynChong 3 года назад +13

    sidetrack i loled when u said u had no idea why u brought up sang nila utama

  • @sauravdhn
    @sauravdhn 3 года назад +3

    Nice video, just a small clarification does the long term STI return of 6% include the dividend yield as well. If not then the long term total return of STI is close to 10% isn't it(assuming 4% dividend yield). At 10% total return, the return levels look okay in SGD terms.
    Please also do suggest which global ETFs are good to choose for Singapore investors. Thanks

  • @kenchua829
    @kenchua829 3 года назад +4

    Your video is getting better and better and I am learning more and more each week. Keep it going 😀

  • @ciapok5016
    @ciapok5016 3 года назад +7

    Appreciate how you always talk about investments (seemingly confusing matters) in very simple terms. I'm sure ur RUclips channel will continue to grow! Cheers Kelvin :)

  • @M43782
    @M43782 3 года назад +8

    You can lower US dividend tax by investing in US through Ireland based ETFs. They pay only 15% tax on dividends.

    • @AlvinCwk
      @AlvinCwk 3 года назад

      Damn thanks so much for the info!

  • @sylvia1405
    @sylvia1405 Год назад

    nice video, really helps a lot, but one question here, which websites are u using ah, can recommend meh

  • @shiock1991
    @shiock1991 3 года назад +1

    Kelvin, Thks for sharing. May I know which website you use to check each stock dividend history?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +3

      Hi, it's simplywalls: simplywall.st/stocks/sg/real-estate/sgx-m44u/mapletree-logistics-trust-shares#dividend

  • @jacklee1612
    @jacklee1612 3 года назад +4

    I think despite of an investment being a good or bad one, we should not forget: "Do your OWN due diligence". Never rely on the work of others, coz at the end of the day, investment is a personal thing, it's a lonely road. You can either blame yourself, or pat yourself in the back. Thanks Kelvin, your videos are food for thought and allow myself to reflect on my portfolio every now and then :)

  • @tedthaddtt
    @tedthaddtt 3 года назад

    Hi Kelvin, I still a newbie and just started learning, and Im looking at dollar cost averaging for the long term in S&P 500 ETFs (say 20 years). Would you go for a local based or US based ETF that tracks the S&P 500 index? Hope to hear your thoughts on that!

  • @sunilkotturu
    @sunilkotturu 3 года назад +1

    Hi, nice video indeed! I want to invest my SRS funds which means only Singapore based stocks or EFTS .. can you suggest any? I am looking for green energy related funds if possible . Thank you very much in advance!

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      I'm unsure abt green energy. But u can try to search here secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/funds/fund-selector
      Set payment method to "srs available"

    • @sunilkotturu
      @sunilkotturu 3 года назад

      @@KelvinLearnsInvesting , thank you so much !.. 🙏

  • @1911sg
    @1911sg 3 года назад

    Good analysis. Thanks for sharing. Do you know whether STI ETF is the type holding physical shares of the component companies or using derivatives?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      It should be the physical shares, if derivatives it will appear as another name in their holdings

  • @TheMaplekid1
    @TheMaplekid1 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the educational yet entertaining video! Just got a question, you mentioned in the video that dividend stocks wouldn't be affected if the market crashes, but wouldn't company tend to lower their dividend payout if their company underperforms during the market downtime?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      Ya, they will be affected. But the drop wont be as bad as stock prices

  • @siscaandfukufrenchie5149
    @siscaandfukufrenchie5149 3 года назад

    Hi Kevin, learning from your videos on investing. I never invest before, do you suggest investing in STI ETF and what is the best platform to do this? Thanks!!!

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      U can invest in sti if u prefer stable stocks. Tiger broker is cheap broker

  • @oo-sm5oi
    @oo-sm5oi 3 года назад

    I watched your sg reit vid and found ascendas and maple tree logis good. which one do u recommend more and how long to hold? can I buy 1 day before their scheduled dividend days and get payed how often do they payout?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      i like mapletree log more, best to hold both though. In theory u can buy before dividend date, but its a bad idea because stock price will rise before the date, then drop immediately after the date, so best to js buy & hold. I think mapletree pays 4 times a year, ascendas pays 2 times a year.

  • @NOpopplaying
    @NOpopplaying 3 года назад +1

    Wow! An extra video this week! Will this be regular?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      No promises haha, i just try my best :)

    • @NOpopplaying
      @NOpopplaying 3 года назад

      @@KelvinLearnsInvesting awesome! Always looking forward to your videos

  • @aludrag
    @aludrag 3 года назад +2

    Thank you Kelvin. Extra video per week now, then? Mondays and Fridays? Either or, thank you for your insightful videos.

    • @aludrag
      @aludrag 3 года назад

      One more thing. "Thanks Sky, Thanks Floor". 101% funny.

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      No promises haha, i try my best

    • @justinbala3021
      @justinbala3021 3 года назад

      Yes. I look forward to his video too. The content is meaningful and informative.

  • @financegnome
    @financegnome 3 года назад +1

    Agree with most of your points. For SG investors though, I’m curious how the STI total return including dividends vs SPY minus the 30% tax. Might close the gap slightly though I still think it won’t even be close. Just to make yourself feel better haha.

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      Not even close. But to be fair, this decade is US best decade, previously STI was outperforming SPY iirc.

  • @TheShinchee
    @TheShinchee 3 года назад

    Appreciate it! Thanks kevins👍🙏

  • @Iendleasereit
    @Iendleasereit 3 года назад

    Hi! Good evening shifu!
    Edit: Hahah!! The lord of the rings part is dam funny

    • @Iendleasereit
      @Iendleasereit 3 года назад

      Shifu I have an interesting topic for you ... seeing that you are such a nice person... also can be thought of as being related to investment as it fosters better relations, which may lead to a more prosperous financial prospect ... because "guan xi" is impt in financials. The topic is:
      How do you personally deal with negative/sour people who purposely try to tear you down or say something unpleasant to you just to get a rise (reaction) out of you for no reason you can think of.
      Personally, I ignore. But your answer in a video may help a lot of your viewers.

  • @pawnstorm17
    @pawnstorm17 3 года назад

    Cheers on another great vid Kelvin! Just want to double check that the dividends from STI ETF (ES3) are completely tax-exempt. Reason being is that in the past, I've been declaring a small portion of it as an additional income in IRAS. From the Singapore Tax Voucher I receive semi-annually, there's this (d) "Other Income" which has a fine note stating that a unit holder, other than a qualifying investor, is required to declare in his tax return.. hmm.

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      Check this out, it says dividends received are non taxable. Unless u are a partner of the company or dividend paid by co-op www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/Individuals/Locals/Working-Out-Your-Taxes/What-is-Taxable-What-is-Not/Dividends/

  • @JoeyTang-gj3pd
    @JoeyTang-gj3pd 3 года назад

    really enjoy your content and the jokes! keep it up and hope to see more videos from you!

  • @only.rad.travels
    @only.rad.travels 3 года назад

    Hi! So would it be better if we invest in S&P500 instead of STI ETF?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      S&P500 has higher risk and reward, while STI gives more stability. So it depends which you prefer

    • @only.rad.travels
      @only.rad.travels 3 года назад

      @@KelvinLearnsInvesting Understood. Thank you!!!

  • @njrngjingrui
    @njrngjingrui 3 года назад

    Hi! What website do you use to check if dividends given out has been growing? @ 9:05

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +2

      Ohh, it's this: simplywall.st/stocks/sg/real-estate/sgx-m44u/mapletree-logistics-trust-shares#dividend
      The free version only allows you to check 10 stocks per month :(

  • @bigno1900
    @bigno1900 3 года назад

    The problem with STI ETF is the amount of government linked companies are or owned by Singapore Government. Also, it is totally skewed by the banks.

  • @MrTeoyuhui
    @MrTeoyuhui 3 года назад +8

    Mc Laosai earn my subscribe and like. Keep up the humor.

  • @GodofDisco
    @GodofDisco 3 года назад +1

    As an American, Singapore's currency is likely to gain value over the dollar because the new administration is printing a lot of money which devalues our currency so I hold a little bit of Singapore for currency hedge. That said, you should have exposure to both IMO.

  • @ay4186
    @ay4186 3 года назад

    Hi kelvin, do I need to take sgx elearning to invest etf?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      When opening broker, they will ask if u have experience. Otherwise they will ask u to take e learning course first

  • @chrischong777
    @chrischong777 3 года назад

    Hi Kelvin, what equipment do you use to film and what editing software?

  • @weijie9851
    @weijie9851 3 года назад

    Currently in 2021 what dividend stocks is good for purchasing?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      Follow this guide to find :D
      ruclips.net/video/erWDgh_f9fA/видео.html

  • @mikelee3671
    @mikelee3671 3 года назад +1

    Buay Tahan your joke...getting better each time🤣
    Can advise what platform you use to compare the ETF charts?

  • @LLYYTT
    @LLYYTT Год назад

    When sti etf change it characteristics?

  • @PawkyKnight
    @PawkyKnight 3 года назад

    Are you saying the only reason to invest in STI is for the dividend stocks? > so might as well just buy the best ones instead of the index

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      I personally feel that way. Growth stocks in SG can't perform as well as US growth stocks. But SG dividend stocks are really good bcos its not taxed

  • @Jecsen93
    @Jecsen93 3 года назад

    let's say my monthly expense is 500sgd, how much and how long will i need to invest in order to achieve financially freedom? how to calculate ah?

  • @jeremiah641
    @jeremiah641 3 года назад

    It is important to note that GDP growth is not very well correlated with stock market returns. Especially in developing nations where the creation of private companies (generally very small) expands the gap between GDP growth and stock market growth.

  • @stephenhall4115
    @stephenhall4115 3 года назад

    Very helpful, thanks.

  • @thiruvidhya
    @thiruvidhya 3 года назад

    thank you for the advice.

  • @SlowMotionThoughts
    @SlowMotionThoughts 3 года назад +4

    Hands down my favorite financial RUclipsr. Thank you, Kelvin for sharing your incredible knowledge and extra thank you for your jokes. I die laughing everytime! ❤️

  • @merseratikrishna
    @merseratikrishna 3 года назад

    Every $100, 30% is US Tax? So my return must be more than $130x to not lose money? How can I avoid/lower this ?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +1

      Yea, US tax 30% on dividends. You can lower by investing in ireland domiciled etfs which are listed in London stock exchange. They only tax 15% instead

  • @zwai5952
    @zwai5952 3 года назад

    Which ETF is good for a newbie to start investing?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      Check these out:
      ruclips.net/video/Bc0sPsp_n9o/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/fnf7svYgwEo/видео.html

  • @guanlinng424
    @guanlinng424 3 года назад +2

    One thing i learnt from this channel is to watch funny cat videos during my free time! Jokes aside, great video by the way! :)

  • @blu3king
    @blu3king 3 года назад

    Keep up the humor, enjoying every minute of it. I'm ok with 4% return wo exchange risk, so it's good for me.

  • @seanomics
    @seanomics 3 года назад

    Dear Kelvin, STI ETF is not a bad investment. It depends on your risk appetite and your age profile.

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      I agree. STI is good for people who prefers a much more stable investment than crazy tesla

  • @ron2040
    @ron2040 3 года назад

    But I don't see any bad of STI if you can buy SPY too. Even currency risk takes up the tax portion, profit is more than STI still

  • @savethebees2506
    @savethebees2506 2 года назад

    I like your humble opinion, kelvin gor gor..... ☺️
    STI ETF 4% average is actually better 2.5% OA 🤗🤗

  • @chuajy86
    @chuajy86 3 года назад

    Hope u can do a review on SGX SPDR S&P 500 🙂 Your jokes r candid haha

  • @mindtwister1984
    @mindtwister1984 3 года назад +3

    Very good independent analysis of the STI ETF with a witty humour to match. Love it.

  • @kadenlok9414
    @kadenlok9414 3 года назад +3

    Omg i LOLed at the mac lao sai 🤣

  • @rhuyisia8163
    @rhuyisia8163 3 года назад

    Thanks sky thanks floor for your great sharing! 🌹

  • @desmondsim7881
    @desmondsim7881 3 года назад

    Custodian requires you to change to the market currency. If you sell the stock, it will be keep in the currency account. If Forex are not good, you can still hold onto the currency. Anyway if you are an investor, you will seldom sell your stocks. Forex is not a big concern if the currency are not weak like ringgit.

  • @christophertinchung8133
    @christophertinchung8133 3 года назад

    When foreigner buy dividend stocks in singapore, do i have to pay tax .

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      If you are working in singapore, you dont have to pay capital gains tax

  • @jefferykongungsiong5215
    @jefferykongungsiong5215 2 года назад

    可以放华语字幕吗?

  • @ryankoh2606
    @ryankoh2606 3 года назад

    Excellent info. But better to pay 30% withholding tax with excellent growth rather than STI.

  • @vennethc1433
    @vennethc1433 3 года назад +1

    hi, how long do you usually hold your ETFs for?

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад +2

      I'll hold as long as fundamentals doesn't change, or when i found a better investment opportunity.

  • @limwilfred1336
    @limwilfred1336 3 года назад

    As singaporean, its not easy to access other indexes without paying too much fees for low capifal so sti etf is an attractive appeal

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  3 года назад

      Actually low cost etfs like ishares and vanguard is easily accessible thru low cost brokerage like ibkr, tiger, moomoo.

    • @limwilfred1336
      @limwilfred1336 3 года назад

      @@KelvinLearnsInvesting i see. Thanks for clarifying.

  • @Lolaprus
    @Lolaprus 3 года назад

    I still don't understand why is there a mix of viet and English language in your CC

  • @Aki-wq6xh
    @Aki-wq6xh 3 месяца назад

    Good video

  • @mrpolarbearrrrr
    @mrpolarbearrrrr 3 года назад +6

    Never touch Singapore stocks 😂

  • @longing3232
    @longing3232 3 года назад +2

    I'll never order McSpicy in the same mindset again after this vid..

  • @gloomypika3974
    @gloomypika3974 3 года назад

    2:17 "watching finding nemo with your niece for the 10th time in the week" sounds toooo specific

  • @ron2040
    @ron2040 3 года назад +1

    Today not Monday leh😂.. But still first

  • @jonavan1450
    @jonavan1450 3 года назад

    I don't see any- much growth in SG stocks... That's why I feel investing in local companies is ONLY for dividends... Other than that, everything invests overseas have MUCH MUCH MUCH better returns than SG stocks... and yes, my name is given by u HAHAHAH.. Imma use it for good.

  • @alpha12th
    @alpha12th 3 года назад

    Position trading using STI ETF in CPF is another way to add additional income.

    • @JohnWick-gp8iw
      @JohnWick-gp8iw 3 года назад

      What does this mean in simpler terms? @koolkat Austin

  • @kevinlim7974
    @kevinlim7974 Год назад

    It's quite ironic that the RUclipsr who argues about lack of diversification as a con for investing in STI ETF, has an investment portfolio where the majority is in a SINGLE STOCK 🤣

    • @KelvinLearnsInvesting
      @KelvinLearnsInvesting  Год назад

      Purpose of investing in etf is to diversify. Diversification or not is up to individual

  • @merfisto
    @merfisto 3 года назад

    I love ASCENDAS! thanks :)

  • @cheungwl7098
    @cheungwl7098 3 года назад +1

    Yes. Love it. Passive income is the key financial freedom.

  • @boonteeeng460
    @boonteeeng460 3 года назад

    Good stuff

  • @investinyourfuture713
    @investinyourfuture713 3 года назад

    STI ETI moves like a turtle. 5% to 10% ROI is pathetic! Consider investing in the US stock market which will 2X, 3X or even 4X your money.

  • @whis5448
    @whis5448 3 года назад

    My investment strategy...invest in companies which Temasek holdings had a major stake in it e.g Capitaland. Also I follow Warren Buffett strategy "Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful". When others are busy dumping stocks in Mar 2020, I'm busy "collecting" them, but only the good ones ^_^

    • @KimKim-hh7jf
      @KimKim-hh7jf 3 года назад

      Whats Temasek's annual return?

    • @whis5448
      @whis5448 3 года назад

      @@KimKim-hh7jf not sure. Temasek holds about 51% of capitaland and their dividend yield is about 4%.

    • @justinbala3021
      @justinbala3021 3 года назад

      Well said. 👏👏👏

  • @NickChaiTK
    @NickChaiTK 3 года назад

    Buy sp500 is better
    Or buy FAANG stock hold for long term and do nothing you already can earn until siao

    • @doraemxn1037
      @doraemxn1037 3 года назад

      What is FAANG ?

    • @junhaotan8457
      @junhaotan8457 3 года назад

      @@doraemxn1037 Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix and Google

  • @scbchong6964
    @scbchong6964 3 года назад

    Your satisfaction with steady dividends is the real reason why STI has not grown much over the decades despite singapore moving from third world to first. Singapore citizens are mostly offspring of farmers and coolies. Started poor, uneducated and very risk averse and rather superstitious.
    The Pioneer Generation and the Merdeka Generation almost all wage earners. Hardly any risk takers and innovators. Plus civil service attract most of the best students.
    And post-1965 generation got infatuated with USA-style materialism, consumerism and freedom political ideology because they came of age during the mid-80s. This generation mostly very arrogant and show-off, and like to blame govt.
    Only the GenZ, those born after 2000, have risk taking and innovation drive to succeed. But they have bad role models if their parents are from post-1965 / Gen X, Gen Y.

  • @chenyitaotao2489
    @chenyitaotao2489 3 года назад

    but on the bright side, they do give good dividend yield at 4%, and now STI is recovered about 20% from pandemic.

  • @georgegeorge4456
    @georgegeorge4456 3 года назад

    Buy Tesla, lemonade, bitcoin.

  • @oceanboi
    @oceanboi 3 года назад

    i was almost about to atart my STI ETF journey, until i saw this

    • @heibaimao
      @heibaimao 3 года назад

      I have about 20k in my sti etf. Thinking of selling those to buy tsla 🤨

  • @danielko7850
    @danielko7850 3 года назад +2

    Unlimited cash cheat code i died 🤣

  • @BeachBoi1000
    @BeachBoi1000 3 года назад

    yes it’s McLaoSai!

  • @MrRazorteeth
    @MrRazorteeth 3 года назад

    TSLA FTW🚀🚀

  • @limwilfred1336
    @limwilfred1336 3 года назад

    The video title abit misleading