Yup, I like to turn it on it's head, because it's not a reasonable argument. Say there's a creator deity that values intellectual honesty and it knows we've zero good evidence for it's existence. Perhaps it punishes those who believe without warrant.
A lot of people just can't seem to appreciate the comedic mechanism here and the stellar delivery of Louis CK. Just change the objects of the sentences and enjoy.
@@samathum4711 I mean if the fact that it's about god and religion bothers someone they should just pretend he's talking about something similar and then hopefully they can appreciate the comedy and not get triggered.
@@ranevc that's why we have a near death afterlife experience, someone's heart stops beating, they are clinically dead but the brain still shows fairies and things and doctors make their heart beat again and that person tell the story about afterlife.
@@larryx314 Because you are a mocker and a scoffer so you will go to hades and there will be nashing of teeth because thats why I will be in heaven and you wont so that proves it
Hm? The finale of yonder venture verily discussed a gargantuan failing of the zeitgeist's popularly monolithic conception of deez nuts, as well. But I won't hear you talking about that in your, what do you call zis? Discourse? You Americans make me SICK to the point of SPEWING sarcastic NONSENSE to prove a POINT that never EXISTED. Like. You. And. Your. DOG. Your dog is lovely and I'm sorry to drag them into this. By way of legitimate discourse, it becomes less of a problem if you think of it as recycling instead of garbage, but then it's not as funny. Kind of like this. I should have stuck to the sarcastic diatribe. Let that be a lesson to... Christ. I need an editor. (He's got one. - Ed.)
Lol. Suppose there's a creator deity that values intellectual honesty, and it knows we've no valid evidence/reason for its existence. Perhaps it punishes those who believe without warrant...
Saying there is no evidence is intellectually dishonest. Through proven historical methodologies we can prove that Jesus Christ of Nazareth actually lived, died, and resurrected. We can use the same methodologies that any historian would use to prove and give credibility to any historical account. We can prove it without the Bible. We could use purely secular and even pagan historical accounts to prove His life, death, and resurrection. This also gives credibility to not only his life, death, and resurrection but also the things He said including: God will judge us for our sins, there is a heaven, there is a hell, and many other things. The good news is by the grace and mercy of God we can be forgiven. But again, saying there is no good evidence is incredibly ignorant and dishonest. I can site you sources if you would like? These sources are secular and pagan historical accounts from the first century.
What makes you think that living a religious life is a waste? Even most atheists I know can admit that religion provides purpose and meaning to those who live it. Some envy it but simply can’t have faith. Being a good person and loving others is never a waste.
@@loganmanion4373being a good person and loving others is not religion tho. Religions are additional social restrictions that have some positives and negatives, it is also an arrogant/ignorant belief that shapes your life. Conformity might not be just a blessing, the tyranny of the majority is a real thing. Religious majorities are especially tyrannical.
@@kasuo7039 There are very few religious majorities that have been as tyrannical as the atheist Communist states of the 20th century. And I only say “very few” because I’m unaware of any religious regimes that were worse, but concede the possibility that they have existed.
There's a story about that in the Bible. God basically said, "if you thought I was so terrible, why didn't you fear me? You thought I would punish and you still disobeyed." Then he took the reward he was going to give him and gave it to the person who thought God was good and obeyed him.
@@alexcrocker5329 the only way to reject the evidence of Jesus resurrection is to presumptively reject the possibility of resurrection. When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. If Jesus resurrection wasn't seen as impossible, it would have to be true. Further more, the statistical improbability for the universe AND life are both far too great to be mathematically possible. Plain mathematics supports a creative and guiding hand in our existence. The only way to conclude otherwise is to outright reject the conclusion. The same idea is concluded in the thought experiment of simulated reality posited by many great minds. We must not eliminate possibilities because of our own lack of imagination.
You don’t have to believe more than that there is a creator, Deism. The evidence as I see it is that we have bad we cannot eliminate despite free-will and self-awareness. Which means something outside us put it n us. We don’t want it, but cannot rid ourselves of it. Something other than us controls that. There must be a creator. How else could we have a nature we did not choose and cannot rid ourselves of despite free will?
The god in the Bible really cares about that stuff. Like he basically demands your worship or you'll burn in hell. But the real answer to your question is that he likes money. Or that the people who made him up like your money.
yup. infact, how can you sell the idea that there is a deity that does know everything, can do everything and somehow bothered to create humanity ? if you are a perfect being, that means you neednt to do or create anything. thats why perfection is end of the road.
@@barisbal7782I mean, the loophole is that you/we are not perfect, so we might not even be capable of understanding the perfect reasoning behind creating humanity. We are a bunch of imperfects selling our imperfect ideas of perfection to each other, meanwhile god is playing hexavertexolygonal chess far beyond our understanding
@@borizzle1 we might be not be perfect, but we dont have to be. the simple conclusion is there is no plausible reason for something like god create something like us. after one point our options boils down into him being either a sadistic piece of shit or he is desperate and need us for something. either option damages his omnipotent omni science image. and if he exist, then we gave him too much credit
It kind of is. You can choose to pray, even if you don't believe that you are talking to a god. You then let go of your ego by trying something you think logically does not make sense, and that becomes faith.
I just turned 60. I recently had epiphany that there has to be God We have free will and self-awareness, but we cannot rid ourselves of bad. Which means the bad is there by design. Whatever is responsible for our having a nature we cannot change, it exists. That is “God”, or whatever name you want to use. If you believe that we can be liberated from our darkness, if you have that Hope, that is “Faith”. You have faith that we can escape from our darkness. And ascend to something better, that we can be better than we are as humans in bondage to a darkness.
How did you determine that badness must be designed... badness is a term we slap in things we either dont like at all or like for a short amount of time because of pleasure but it ends up doing more harm than good in the long run like alcohol or drugs. Being attracted to things that give us immediate pleasure but long term problems doesnt point to design... in fact it points to non design.. because if a loving intelligent being designed is how could he ever give us the desire to becatupid enough to destroy our own bodies with short term.pleasure.
Hahaha if you believe in God you now have the threat of all the other religions you don't follow and their respective God(if it were real) put you in their version of hell for believing in the wrong one. I love Loius CK, but pascals wager is as illogical as all the other arguments for God.
I had a near death experience once, I can confirm with confidence that there is definitely a conscious love energy on the other side that we all belong to
This world is a school for Soul's to grow up in over many lifetimes...atheist, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist etc..."What did you learn from it?" Good, move on...next...
In a way, everyone is agnostic because no one can definitively prove a negative, such as the nonexistence of God. However, the burden of proof lies with those who claim that a god exists. Atheists, based on the evidence presented so far, conclude that there is no compelling reason to believe in a deity. This position is not necessarily fixed; if stronger evidence were provided, many atheists would be open to reevaluating their stance. This approach emphasizes the importance of evidence and rational inquiry in forming beliefs.
It means you can only see the answer by growing into seeing it. You can’t just decide to believe. These things are difficult to explain. It it more realization than belief. You cannot chose to realize something. I was a skeptic. After long journey wrestling with this a light turned on. I know it seems counter-intellectual, but it isn’t. It is putting pieces together, like a puzzle, and then you see what the puzzle is of. It is all just seemingly random pieces and only when they assemble does it make sense. You have to be open to getting to place where you see it. It makes sense intellectually when you see it, but to get there you have to get past intellectual impediment. Think about it in very large way, more philosophically than scientifically. Think about things science cannot explain and why science cannot explain. Like why there is death at all. Or pain, suffering. If random, why randomly bad and not randomly absent pain, suffering, violence, sorrow?
Religion and politic comedy. Where jokes become serious conversations in the comments… Edit: and anything to do with LeBron James and/or Michael Jordan
Pretty funny video but wow this comment section concerns me. I just want to say that I wholeheartedly believe in God. Belief is a choice that I make. No I have no physical evidence, it's a feeling. I hope that you all find your way to God. But if you decide to walk a different path I cannot stop you. The Lord will not stop you. This is a path you choose to walk. Just know that when you truly need Him, He will be there for you. If you don't belief I ask you to read The Bible. There is soooooo many crazy and amazing stories that you never heard when you were in Sunday school. I know it can be confusing because most Christians are just as lost as you. I mean the amount of deferent types of Christianity is insane to me. That's why I say just grab the good book and read it yourself. You will be surprised trust me. God be with you all, goodbye.
No book that condones slavery and never prohibits it can be considered good. Here’s just a sample: Exodus 20:8-11 and 17 - The 4th and 10th commandments implicitly authorize the possession of slaves. Leviticus 25:44-45 - Permits the buying and selling of slaves from other nations as perpetual property. Exodus 21:1, 5-6 - Hebrews can only be slaves for six years but become lifelong slaves if they marry a slave. Exodus 21:20-21 - No punishment for a master who beats their slave to death, as long as the slave dies a day later. Leviticus 25:46 - Allows slaves to be passed down as an inheritance to one’s children. Exodus 21:7-11 - Authorizes the purchase and sale of female slaves for sexual purposes. Exodus 21:4 - Children of slaves are born into slavery. 1 Timothy 6:1-2 - Christians can have other Christians as slaves. Titus 2:9 - Christian slaves must obey their masters in everything.
Louis CK is an absolute black belt of comedy.
You can easily also ad motherf#$r in there....he is the baddest man now ....😂😂😂😂
The is NO comedy fan who doesn’t have him in their top 5
Pascal’s wager as a bit.
My same though!
Yup, I like to turn it on it's head, because it's not a reasonable argument. Say there's a creator deity that values intellectual honesty and it knows we've zero good evidence for it's existence. Perhaps it punishes those who believe without warrant.
@@nathanmiller9918exactly. It’s the other way around 😂
@@nathanmiller9918 pascals argument is considered among the weakest. It’s like threatening people into belief
@@nimnone Agreed. Worthless in reality.
With a beard and everything!
...with the beard and everything. 😂
A lot of people just can't seem to appreciate the comedic mechanism here and the stellar delivery of Louis CK. Just change the objects of the sentences and enjoy.
What?
@@samathum4711 I mean if the fact that it's about god and religion bothers someone they should just pretend he's talking about something similar and then hopefully they can appreciate the comedy and not get triggered.
If there is no afterlife, I honestly don't think you'll have time to be disappointed. 😃
It's... it's just a joke.
@heathertaylor8904
I know. That's why I added the smiley face. 😀
Currently science: brain remains operational 30 seconds after the body dies.
@@ranevc
The opposite can be true as well.
@@ranevc that's why we have a near death afterlife experience, someone's heart stops beating, they are clinically dead but the brain still shows fairies and things and doctors make their heart beat again and that person tell the story about afterlife.
We got louis ck doing pascal's wager before we got gta 6
this is definitely a super old bit
@@treyshaffer Definitely still before GTA 6 then.
As an atheist I find this funny Lol
Laugh it up now, while you still can.
@AZ-kr6ff why is your invisible friend gonna send me to hell to the guy with the pointy tail and pitchfork LMAO
@@larryx314
Because you are a mocker and a scoffer so you will go to hades and there will be nashing of teeth because thats why I will be in heaven and you wont so that proves it
@@AZ-kr6ffnone of us should be laughing. You're in the same hell as us. Ha ha ha
@@larryx314 hahah, thats a valid argument as well 😭
Louis CK rules.
UNLESS YOU PICKED THE WRONG DIETY
The ending of this clip really points out a big problem in the popularly monolithic conception of atheism.
Hm? The finale of yonder venture verily discussed a gargantuan failing of the zeitgeist's popularly monolithic conception of deez nuts, as well. But I won't hear you talking about that in your, what do you call zis? Discourse? You Americans make me SICK to the point of SPEWING sarcastic NONSENSE to prove a POINT that never EXISTED. Like. You. And. Your. DOG.
Your dog is lovely and I'm sorry to drag them into this. By way of legitimate discourse, it becomes less of a problem if you think of it as recycling instead of garbage, but then it's not as funny. Kind of like this. I should have stuck to the sarcastic diatribe. Let that be a lesson to... Christ. I need an editor. (He's got one. - Ed.)
Lol. Suppose there's a creator deity that values intellectual honesty, and it knows we've no valid evidence/reason for its existence. Perhaps it punishes those who believe without warrant...
good luck with that ☘️
@williamjeffbuckleyjr.2648 not worried
I've been to church. Honesty isn't valued.
Saying there is no evidence is intellectually dishonest. Through proven historical methodologies we can prove that Jesus Christ of Nazareth actually lived, died, and resurrected. We can use the same methodologies that any historian would use to prove and give credibility to any historical account. We can prove it without the Bible. We could use purely secular and even pagan historical accounts to prove His life, death, and resurrection. This also gives credibility to not only his life, death, and resurrection but also the things He said including: God will judge us for our sins, there is a heaven, there is a hell, and many other things. The good news is by the grace and mercy of God we can be forgiven. But again, saying there is no good evidence is incredibly ignorant and dishonest. I can site you sources if you would like? These sources are secular and pagan historical accounts from the first century.
Aka, the atheist would complain as its soul is dragged to hell
When I asked who you would have lunch with, present or past… Guess who? This is my para social best friend for the last 20 years.
A little comfort in my stupid life “
If you’re religious and you’re wrong you wasted the only life you had. That might be worse than hell honestly
What makes you think that living a religious life is a waste? Even most atheists I know can admit that religion provides purpose and meaning to those who live it. Some envy it but simply can’t have faith. Being a good person and loving others is never a waste.
@@loganmanion4373being a good person and loving others is not religion tho. Religions are additional social restrictions that have some positives and negatives, it is also an arrogant/ignorant belief that shapes your life. Conformity might not be just a blessing, the tyranny of the majority is a real thing. Religious majorities are especially tyrannical.
@@loganmanion4373because he is wasting his life every day and thinks that religious people do that too)))
@@loganmanion4373what does being religious have to do with being a good person and loving others?
@@kasuo7039 There are very few religious majorities that have been as tyrannical as the atheist Communist states of the 20th century. And I only say “very few” because I’m unaware of any religious regimes that were worse, but concede the possibility that they have existed.
Oh I’d love to be in that scenario, get the chance to tell god what I thought of him before skipping away to hell 🤣
There's a story about that in the Bible. God basically said, "if you thought I was so terrible, why didn't you fear me? You thought I would punish and you still disobeyed." Then he took the reward he was going to give him and gave it to the person who thought God was good and obeyed him.
@@stevensko9153dont fear the fictional
@@alexcrocker5329 Jesus is a historical figure
@@stevensko9153 one that can rise from the dead apparently?
@@alexcrocker5329 the only way to reject the evidence of Jesus resurrection is to presumptively reject the possibility of resurrection. When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. If Jesus resurrection wasn't seen as impossible, it would have to be true.
Further more, the statistical improbability for the universe AND life are both far too great to be mathematically possible. Plain mathematics supports a creative and guiding hand in our existence. The only way to conclude otherwise is to outright reject the conclusion. The same idea is concluded in the thought experiment of simulated reality posited by many great minds. We must not eliminate possibilities because of our own lack of imagination.
I thought that i have seen all of his standups, but this is new to me. Can someone give me a link to the whole show?
louisck.com/products/louis-ck-back-to-the-garden?srsltid=AfmBOoo-fxYVamUI3rjPqyknhv_qXFEymd-yZ5r20RoUXxQv30Gx6Zmv
@@StrangerBible That is a link to a different special my guy
And if you believe in the wrong god?
Jokes on them when they meet Thoth the moon God who would have rather you been an atheist than worship a false God.
@@blueboi5140 exactly
The christian God is definitely the worst one to be wrong about
The flying spaghetti monster sends you to tortellino's hell
You don’t have to believe more than that there is a creator, Deism.
The evidence as I see it is that we have bad we cannot eliminate despite free-will and self-awareness. Which means something outside us put it n us. We don’t want it, but cannot rid ourselves of it. Something other than us controls that. There must be a creator. How else could we have a nature we did not choose and cannot rid ourselves of despite free will?
I'm garbage alive so why should death be any different?
And there will be darkness ….
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Louie . He Can Be B R U T A L .
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He can also be a woman named Lois, if he transitioned. Idk if brutal is the word but interesting formatting, and such. Adieu
If there is a god why would it care if you believed in it or not?
The god in the Bible really cares about that stuff. Like he basically demands your worship or you'll burn in hell. But the real answer to your question is that he likes money. Or that the people who made him up like your money.
yup. infact, how can you sell the idea that there is a deity that does know everything, can do everything and somehow bothered to create humanity ?
if you are a perfect being, that means you neednt to do or create anything. thats why perfection is end of the road.
@@barisbal7782I mean, the loophole is that you/we are not perfect, so we might not even be capable of understanding the perfect reasoning behind creating humanity. We are a bunch of imperfects selling our imperfect ideas of perfection to each other, meanwhile god is playing hexavertexolygonal chess far beyond our understanding
@@borizzle1
we might be not be perfect, but we dont have to be. the simple conclusion is there is no plausible reason for something like god create something like us.
after one point our options boils down into him being either a sadistic piece of shit or he is desperate and need us for something.
either option damages his omnipotent omni science image. and if he exist, then we gave him too much credit
@@barisbal7782 most likely created out of loneliness or boredom.
Yea except that are a ton of different gods, so if you believe in one, you can still end up being punished if another god is the “true god”
Different cultures invent their own Gods obviously.
Thinking theirs is true and real.
@@davidmmm8 yes including your culture
@@GeneCircuitThe Abrahamic one is more popular than all the others combined.
Not that it's a democracy. 😃
Easy. You believe in one, bot don't tell anybody which one. When you die, you say, "I knew all along it was you!" /jk
@@GeneCircuit
The Abrahamic one is more popular than all the others combined. 😃
Bet on all the horses.
Pascal's Wager seems clever until you realize I just believe in one less god than you do.
The chances of getting it right are slim to none.
Ricky Gervais is your priest
But that god is #1. 😃
Aren't there just two? The Abrahamic one (same for all three religions) and the Hindu one?
@@kompassorpigo7600
Ask Google how many Hindu gods there are. 😃
@@giuffre714 point is they're all Hindu gods, so you either believe in all of them or none.
Belief isn't a " wager"
But you can try if you want to.
You must be parties at fun.
Oh wee...a party full of atheists making fun of religion? Now that IS funny 😂
@LtUnreal
A party of atheists making fun of religion...now that IS funny. 😂
It kind of is. You can choose to pray, even if you don't believe that you are talking to a god. You then let go of your ego by trying something you think logically does not make sense, and that becomes faith.
@@LtUnreal
Not sure what parties you go to that discuss Pascals wager, rocket. You must be fun indeed. Lol
Brilliant
Jesus is not god, but his messanger just like all prophets.
How do you know?
0:01
If god judges people by their virtues I know a lot more atheists who live their lives according to Jesus’ teachings than I do Christian’s.
Good point! I know more good people who are atheist, and more judgemental people who are Christian.
I Am 60. There is No God!
I just turned 60. I recently had epiphany that there has to be God
We have free will and self-awareness, but we cannot rid ourselves of bad. Which means the bad is there by design. Whatever is responsible for our having a nature we cannot change, it exists. That is “God”, or whatever name you want to use. If you believe that we can be liberated from our darkness, if you have that Hope, that is “Faith”. You have faith that we can escape from our darkness. And ascend to something better, that we can be better than we are as humans in bondage to a darkness.
How did you determine that badness must be designed... badness is a term we slap in things we either dont like at all or like for a short amount of time because of pleasure but it ends up doing more harm than good in the long run like alcohol or drugs.
Being attracted to things that give us immediate pleasure but long term problems doesnt point to design... in fact it points to non design.. because if a loving intelligent being designed is how could he ever give us the desire to becatupid enough to destroy our own bodies with short term.pleasure.
I'm 41 and I'm actually the smartest person on this earth because I know that I know nothing.
I was skeptical until you added the exclamation point.
@@thagodwecreate5179I am the second smartest because I agree that you know nothing😂
Hahaha if you believe in God you now have the threat of all the other religions you don't follow and their respective God(if it were real) put you in their version of hell for believing in the wrong one. I love Loius CK, but pascals wager is as illogical as all the other arguments for God.
I had a near death experience once, I can confirm with confidence that there is definitely a conscious love energy on the other side that we all belong to
😮
The dumbest reason to believe
This world is a school for Soul's to grow up in over many lifetimes...atheist, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist etc..."What did you learn from it?" Good, move on...next...
Never met a smart Atheist to be honest. Met a few smart Agnostics though, and a lot of smart Christians. And no I'm not in any religion 😂
In a way, everyone is agnostic because no one can definitively prove a negative, such as the nonexistence of God. However, the burden of proof lies with those who claim that a god exists. Atheists, based on the evidence presented so far, conclude that there is no compelling reason to believe in a deity. This position is not necessarily fixed; if stronger evidence were provided, many atheists would be open to reevaluating their stance. This approach emphasizes the importance of evidence and rational inquiry in forming beliefs.
Belief is not a choice
Thats exactlt what belief is. You can choose to not believe
@@kyinhiding That is completely false. You should do an experiment and choose to believe something that you currently dont believe in.
@berunto8186 So we don't have free will?
@@kyinhiding I dont know, probably not. The point is that you dont actively choose what you believe in.
It means you can only see the answer by growing into seeing it. You can’t just decide to believe. These things are difficult to explain. It it more realization than belief. You cannot chose to realize something. I was a skeptic. After long journey wrestling with this a light turned on. I know it seems counter-intellectual, but it isn’t. It is putting pieces together, like a puzzle, and then you see what the puzzle is of. It is all just seemingly random pieces and only when they assemble does it make sense. You have to be open to getting to place where you see it. It makes sense intellectually when you see it, but to get there you have to get past intellectual impediment. Think about it in very large way, more philosophically than scientifically. Think about things science cannot explain and why science cannot explain. Like why there is death at all. Or pain, suffering. If random, why randomly bad and not randomly absent pain, suffering, violence, sorrow?
Religion and politic comedy. Where jokes become serious conversations in the comments…
Edit: and anything to do with LeBron James and/or Michael Jordan
Jordan is the GOAT.
@ exhibit A
Pretty funny video but wow this comment section concerns me. I just want to say that I wholeheartedly believe in God. Belief is a choice that I make. No I have no physical evidence, it's a feeling. I hope that you all find your way to God. But if you decide to walk a different path I cannot stop you. The Lord will not stop you. This is a path you choose to walk. Just know that when you truly need Him, He will be there for you. If you don't belief I ask you to read The Bible. There is soooooo many crazy and amazing stories that you never heard when you were in Sunday school. I know it can be confusing because most Christians are just as lost as you. I mean the amount of deferent types of Christianity is insane to me. That's why I say just grab the good book and read it yourself. You will be surprised trust me. God be with you all, goodbye.
No book that condones slavery and never prohibits it can be considered good. Here’s just a sample:
Exodus 20:8-11 and 17 - The 4th and 10th commandments implicitly authorize the possession of slaves.
Leviticus 25:44-45 - Permits the buying and selling of slaves from other nations as perpetual property.
Exodus 21:1, 5-6 - Hebrews can only be slaves for six years but become lifelong slaves if they marry a slave.
Exodus 21:20-21 - No punishment for a master who beats their slave to death, as long as the slave dies a day later.
Leviticus 25:46 - Allows slaves to be passed down as an inheritance to one’s children.
Exodus 21:7-11 - Authorizes the purchase and sale of female slaves for sexual purposes.
Exodus 21:4 - Children of slaves are born into slavery.
1 Timothy 6:1-2 - Christians can have other Christians as slaves.
Titus 2:9 - Christian slaves must obey their masters in everything.
Most of you are going to be unfortunately surprised
Yep I'm going.... -_-t lol xD