Kxng Crooked on why Joe Budden & Royce Da 5'9" didn't know about “Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse”
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Crook seems like such a genuine man. A great communicator. You can tell he has been fed up with Joe for a long long time.
Didn't he just say this was mostly because he wasn't a great communicator and also snuck it on them? Joe is a child but seems crook knew what response he would get and use it as a excuse
Great communicator? He's offering a deal from someone else via phone conversations. Send Joe's attorney and business manager the deal memo! Let him READ. IT! Then Crook does an album Joe and Royce didn't know was coming! Ace communication!
@@rapczar1582 attempt after attempt after attempt.... you really expect Crook and Joell to just sit around and wait on Budden snake ass?
@@Lord_Alimdor there was 1 attempt. And that wasn’t even an attempt because it was communicated through other people. Great communication lmao
I’ve met crook a few times and I 💯 percent guarantee you that he’s solid and he’s real. he’s been nothing but cool and humble with everyone around him (at least the times I’ve been around him)
The "i will" track on Eminems last album is the closest to a Slaughterhouse reunion that we'll get this decade.
“Microphone Preem” on Prhyme 1
@@dreamersdiealone367 yeah but i will was the last track they did together.
@@raysanchez1227 that song was originally for glass house. There is a verse with Joe as well but they took him off it l
@@davemcg915 where'd u read that?
@@raysanchez1227 didn't read it bro. Joe budden said on his podcast
Ok this feedback from Crooked was so on point. The whole thing is about communication. If you listen to Crooked here, he filled in the gaps. Joel couldn’t give details he just kept saying “y’all turned it down” but when Joe & Royce challenged him , he couldn’t give specifics. The whole thing came down to communication. Crazy how something so simple can be good or bad
Joell said basically the same thing, was talking to Joe about the deal telling him it's solid, they hung up with Joe saying he was going to hit Crook about it and that never ever ever happened. Crook definitely gave more context tho. Their story has been solid the whole time. Congruency.
Why you so invested ?
@@Tone213 why are you?
@@Goldenman6288 right, but Joel is terrible about explaining. He gets too in his feelings to express himself. Same with Joe.
@@chrstofuchaos I think thats cos it wasnt Joell's place to say "Crook has had enough of Joe" .. Seems like they were both dancing round the Joe issue trying to keep cool with Royce. In reality i think Royce is just hiding behind Joe, all these IGLives have shown a different side to Royce...
The fact he started with them being unaware and allowing their space to be emotional speaks volumes. Real principles here 💯
What?? So you'd rather your people be emotional in a public forum, than behind the scenes? Call it what it is man, they didn't tell them about the album because it coming from a blind side, will cause a louder noise for marketing purposes.
Exactly!!! Great comment.
@@dunyasgonecrazy let’s be clear I’m a joe Stan. I’m just saying, the fact he initiated his response with honesty and integrity is admirable.
That’s called being sneaky mad corny to make a album behind other group members know u are ok with being shady from ur statement oh by the way ur girls pregnant I’m the dad we’ve been dating is gonna make u say real principals?
@@jasonmcharris3225 both of you completely neglected my original point lol. YES the entire situation is FUCKED UP and some snake shit. The fact he was man enough to ADMIT he was wrong in an interview is dope to see. THATS my point.
Joe seems like an incredibly hard person to deal or work with.
Every business venture he’s been on hes destroyed with his own 2 hands
How?
He says he's a better rapper than em
@@jonathanpillay7774 lol yea, he says a lot of stuff
So he is incredibly hard person to deal/work with, and EVERY business venture.....how? No one is giving me information. Not what the media pants of him. Plus what does saying he is a better rapper than em have to do with anything?
A source i trust and enjoy for this type of convo. Respect Crook for accountability.
Ive had to deal with rapping divas alot too.. i feel you crook. Stay solid brother!
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Live the Kxng! Such a genuine person!
How can you say that after he just admitted that he snaked them 😂😂
💯💯 he shouted out my album on Twitter
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Joe has said a thousand times he doesn’t want to take advances (loans) and sell ownership rights. Idk why not wanting to do that one deal made slaughterhouse “over”… something’s off…
Joe wants to be the reason.
@@djumpfarda he is bc he wants 100% ownership. A deal implies you’re giving up some of that 100% that’s already split between 4 people to a whole other entity. And at this point idk if another entity would boost them more than they could boost themselves. They’d just be eating off the backs of the 4 of them
He didn't even look at it to know if they were selling ownership rights. Why would Crooked want to bankroll it with a guy who snaked his best friends?
@@jonathonhanson7278 he never snaked his friends. They were overpaid and wanted equity and he said no. They didn’t have ownership so they had no right to see any books unless they paid for an audit which they didn’t do “I don’t audit my niggas”. And Joe has been on his ownership wave for a minute. If someone else is putting up the money, you’re giving up ownership and crook even said they’ll get SOME ownership in the deal when Joe wants the group to have all the ownership.
@@BelovedBone what are you basing this idea that they are overpaid on?
This just another example of Joe doing bad business, he’s always the common denominator on why shit never works out
He's a clown simple as, not even a great rapper
No where near the other threes talents in my opinion
He’s a junky
@@RevivedPromotions you prolly weren't even a slaughterhouse fan when they were together
Joe track record is bad! Def Jam, Radio station, love and hiphop, Spotify, Shady and Slaughterhouse!! Oh yeah and he got Wu-Tanged!! Lol Joe just Trash!! 🚮🚮🚮
@@peabody573 because I think Joe Budden is a clown? 😂
I was actually, not a super fan but a fan nonetheless
What I got out of the whole interview is joe was being joe he didn't lie, he was flip flopping, but royce i think tried to make Joell look like a liar when royce knew joe didn't want the deal and kept on asking Joell "when did joe say no to the deal!". Royce wants to be a mediator but is failing at it miserably.
You can be dishonest without lying.
Joe is a liar tho, he can't fool everbody with his fugazi jedi mind tricks..
Joe from the jump said he didn’t like the deal. This is really on both parties cuz crook could’ve talked to joe himself if he really wanted it to happen. Crook didn’t. But again I don’t think joe nor royce have a problem with crook and Joel doing something together, but they had a problem with them putting the blame on them and how they’re selling this to the fans as a rollout
@@ogcookie7961 so if joe didn't like the contract from the jump, why did he sign it?
@@jjsvizard75 wasn’t referring to the shady deal, was referring to the one crook and Joel brought to Royce.
Wouldn’t expect anything less from Joe Budden. Look at his history
It's crazy that anyone even defends Joe at this point
Exactly
Joe a weirdo
Disloyalty and greed is a muthafuh
@@micperez819 they defend Joe because they are Joe... we're attracted to people that remind us of ourselves.
Joe and Royce talking with Joel looked one way. The way CrookedI explaining sounds more like what happened.
If it talks like a clown and walks like a clown it must be Joe Budden
Crook is genuine... The album made me shed tears . Joel and Crook are real
Ps:- Joel and Crook❤️❤️💯💯
Album is straight fire
The fact half the group didn't know anything about the album speaks volumes about the true comradery of the crew. All I know is thanks for some music. 10 years was too long for something slaughterhouse. A year since being free is too long if it's real, you feel me?
Yea these dudes are liars period
The fact that one dude walked away without telling the others ten tears ago did all the talking about comradery for the group
To me that last Slaughterhouse album was like it was just yesterday. I still bump their albums.
New stuff is always better though. Also even just one group member being featured gives me Slaughterhouse vibes. Eminem’s music to be murdered by has SH vibes on it.
talking about comradery with a snake like Joe in the group.. that's NASTY
Great facts!!
There's one thing you can't take outta this whole situation and that's the love ❤️ crook and royce have for each other
You don't graze the man you love shooting at the person you don't. You don't do that.
He just love money more
Fax fam we know
and we know the weak link
@@dunyasgonecrazy Royce used that same analogy on Joe's podcast..
Hey this is a blessing in disguise for CROOKED AND ORTIZ!!!!! The pub going to give this dope album another boost lol
I'm finding it difficult to understand How Royce can be upset with Crook over this whole thing. Loyalty is one thing but Royce coming across like he's Joe's Abused wife or some shit, always bending over backwards to excuse his bad behaviour and making excuses for him.
I learned this Royce's kind of two-faced and to me he can be fake sometimes he's a good rapper and has some great songs but him as a person I don't really care for anymore I still listen to his music but anything outside of music I'm good on because like he's just kind of two-faced that's one thing too with Eminem he picks and choose who he defends Eminem on like when it's somebody like benzino he acts like he's about to go throw nuts with my guy over Eminem but when somebody like Snoop Dogg or Lord Jamar this is Eminem he lightly defends him it's not the same energy there
@@erikedward283 Bizarre was right, joe is disloyal. I can't believe what Royce doe.
The new album is fire. I heard it all the way through a couple times today. Its dope AF.
Facts straight ride music. I love it!!
Hell yea, same
Big factz! 💯 Bumped it back to back in the whip. Straight 🔥🔥🔥
Bro , the album is a classic , the production is A1 as well as the bars! Loved it as well.
so good
These are details they’re willing to share to the fans, but there’s most likely other things between the line that they aren’t going to put on display. Based off of everything communication and how that communication was conveyed was misunderstood.
The fact that crooked mentioned it on to them and put that offer out. I'm with it . Royce said he ain't doing a 3 man and Joe said he retired. Everyone else suppose to retire or hold out too?
This whole thing turned out to be the best promo money couldn’t afford
Exactly ! How many people would of known that slaughter house was coming out with another album without this chaos..
Even tho Joell took offense to it Im glad Joe told him their album could suck his dick.
If I was Joell I’d be dancing in the air like “yes! I got him!”
The album is very good; it’s a shame because they should have a large catalogue together by now. Hopefully, in some strange way, we get a project with all 4 of them on it out of this, but then again, nothing happened in 10 years until these 2 forced the issue and went rogue.
Leave Joe out, respectfully
@@RevivedPromotions I agree; this should have been done years ago. You can’t want for someone that has moved on, and in another lane at that. He was going to pout and spin the narrative either way. At this point, they need to take advantage of the attention and resurgence bc I don’t think that the interest has ever been this high
I don’t like “look, I can rap” albums. I like good music, first
@@dfwherbie8814 the album is pretty good man. It’s definitely worth at least a listen imo
@@dfwherbie8814 thats not how the album sounded like
I still play Sober Up to this day. That’s still my shit
Why anyone does business with Jo is beyond me. He's good for temporary ventures. But not a partner.
And him thinking he's above a phone call to the group. Tells you he thought he was the leader, he's the boss. And he used Royce as his receptionist lol. Royce didn't even know it lol
I feel where Crook is coming from. But I get how Joe sees it too. He retired from rap. The brand was a joint effort. They all had part in. So it makes sense to me why Joe and Royce are standing their ground here. But it doesn't excuse Joe acting extra Hollywood and not getting back to Crook.. sad af to see this cuz imo Joe and Crook are the best out the group. Also my two favorite both make incredible music and art. RiP GlassHouse 🙌💯
This man is being real. Respect.
for real
That’s a funny definition of real.
Album 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Clout chasing
Crook is solid man… that album is fire
The “deal” sounds shady to me lol understandable he disclose everything but also can’t explain it in a manner where it sounds realistic. Sounds like that piece played a bigger role. How does one member decide where a group goes & gets a deal. That’s the part people are ignoring,
crooks verses are crazy on this album
Yes they are...real hip-hop album right there!!!
The big thing Crook didn't communicate is that it was going to happen whether they got on board or not and that seems to be where the two sides are having an issue. Crook and Joell would be damn near 100% free and clear, in my book, to do whatever they doing had they stood up like men and said to Royce and Joe, "Ok, so we doing it this way then." Joe is absolutely most at fault here, but Crook and Joell don't get to exonerate themselves completely because they didn't have that small bit of courtesy for the other members.
that's wrong cuz they scrapped the deal, this album isnt because of that deal, crook said that deal was scrapped it's done, and that this album has nothing to do with that deal, this album is completely just him feeling like he needed to close this chapter of his life for good.
indeed he shouldve definitely told them about it regardless, instead of blind siding them. but its not that the deal went forward with or without them, that deal was done, never to be seen again
@@allisterfield6028 That's regardless. Even if he got a new deal that allows him and Joell to do "Slaughterhouse" without Royce and Joe he still owed it to them to tell them ahead of time. It's just not a man way to do business in that situation. It really sounds like he anticipated there would be beef and instead of squashing it behind closed door he willing engaged in it because he was more preoccupied with his ego than doing proper by those he was indebted to.
@@ceasarsanchez9086 it’s clear as day Crook is envious of Joe’s position in 2022. his podcast is getting over a million streams a week before the paywall episodes on Patreon; he don’t need this money as bad as you do. and it’s apparent because him and Joell were gonna do whatever the fuck they want with this album
That would be correct if Joe and royce whole attitude after the deal was on the table wasn't that a phone call wasn't owed. You can't have that attitude them have expectations from the other side. Both still think that nothing was wrong with the phone call nor being returned
@@infam0usP man bump that. He was just mad his partner wouldn't even give him a call about the business like a partner is supposed to... any business partner would not like that shit
I assume this deal Crook brought to the table came right after they left Shady? Which would be last year, right? I'm wondering if that would've been more or less around the same time Joe's podcast was going through its shenanigans.
Just about, yes
Interesting 🤔
In an alternate time-line, Royce and Lupe never beefed, Lupe replaced Joe in slaughter house, and one of the greatest albums of all time was created.
Sounds great and I’m a very big fan of Lupe, but his style wouldn’t mesh well with how the “group” raps, especially on a full album. 1 song maybe, but full album would be a stretch.
Anand Crook puts the missing pieces together. Very well put.👍💯
With Joe doing two RUclips episodes a week with extra episodes as well on Patreon, I don’t know how Joe would be 100% invested into the group time-wise at this point.
He was never gonna do it, he made it clear he’s been retired for years….he’s just bitchin right now because he’s being Joe
Long live the KXNG
Album goes HARD🐖🔥
He said "not going to go back and fourth with the attorneys and lets see this and lets see this" that's a crazy thing to say in business. You need to see the terms of each deal and have an attorney pick it apart and then see if its something worth doing. Don't ignore that part its key
exactly. Crooked I couldn’t put out solo shit for years after he signed a shitty deal with Death Row. so why would anybody blindly trust a business deal he brokered behind the other 3 guys’ backs? even now he won’t name this supposed business partner or the label this proposed deal was under. so your “business partner” has distribution with every major label? word? how is that not a conflict of interest? 😂
Yeah, the story is sounding real shaky. So did the verses on the album
He wasn’t saying he didn’t want anybody looking the deal over, he said he wanted to get the contract closer to what Joe needed from the jump so they could cut that back and forth time down.
@@02raps exactly 💯
This does clear stuff up. I always wondered why they just didn't do a joint without Joe.
Crooked is a legend. Joe budden ruins everything, everytime I listen to Joe talking I get nervous cz of how toxic he is. Plus Budden is the weakest chain in the link, no flow no delivery no nothing.
Lol Joell is the weakest by far. Joe and Royce are the only two that have any personality or interesting ways of saying shit.
@@ghettogov6161 I agree with what you said about Royce but rapping wise Joe is the weakest, jt's really not enjoyable to listen to him. Even though he got them lyrics, but the flow and delivery are wack!
2 Grown men in their feelings...Joe and Royce
I fucks wit Joe Budden hahaha
Sounds like a bunch of opinions about Joe being in the red, the fact is he’s not. Someone mentioned his early record deal and how he failed in that, to failing in radio etc, but these statements are fluff and a form of confirmation-bias. Fact is, Joe made an excellent point in understanding the terms of a contract that you have to sign can affect you financially. No one in here is doing anything for the “love” the “art” or for a “look” when it comes to signing a contract. You can do the aforementioned freely on your own platform. He did what any of us would have done, which is know what’s in the deal and what it came with, especially if you have something to lose, a la ownership and control of something you’ve built or help establish. People and their narrative building is hilarious
Joe is known for breaking contracts, if he knows the ins and outs of contracts, so why in the hell did he sign them in the first place? And expect people not to get angry when those same contracts got broken?
@@jjsvizard75 He only had one major deal, which was with Def Jam and he was like 19-20yrs old at the time. He hasn’t been on a major since then. He had a pub deal with E1 in the late 2000s, then they did the Shady deal as a collective, but joe was never signed as a single artist. He recognized that the success of the collective was waning under Shady due to the two audiences the group and Em had were vastly different and Joe wanted to renegotiate the terms. Joe had the foresight after negotiating the LOHH market, which was new at the time and made a success out of it, so he knew he could leverage his visibility to evaluate the collective. The problem was Joell and Crooked were more about the art side of it and Joe was on the business side of it. As fans, we just want the music, but we all know if the shoe was on our foot, we’d do the same thing Joe did in this case. I look at like your current employer when it’s time for the annual review: are you doing it for the love or will you leverage your tenure and accomplishments to get a raise? Let’s analyze how Joe built the podcast space and internet news with Complex. We talk about the Spotify deal, but we only focus on the perception he fumbled the bag, instead of gracing him the space to decline the deal due to stake of ownership and control. All he did was leverage his platform to gain intel and he got it, which allowed him to learn more on building his own ish. We can learn from that if we want to control our ownership. You will have your people whom do not mind signing deals and losing some leverage in order to make a bigger play, but in the end you are only positioning yourself to be a part of something that isn’t yours when it’s time to leave.
But I see you gripe too king.
@@aceboogy he still signed a contract as part of a collective, same rules apply.
@@jjsvizard75 true indeed. If you signed a contract with your current employer based on one set of parameters, but the company has made moves that ultimately affects your visibility within the company. Meanwhile, you are getting recognition in facets that boost your profile among your peers and companies alike, are you saying that you would not renegotiate the contract?
@@aceboogy I would try to renegotiate my contract, but not break it. I would try to buy out my remaining contract, if that's not possible I would ride out the rest of said contract and then part ways, and on the next contract is when I would put on stipulations so that I can get gains if the other party decides to stray from the agreed terms so i could see a rise in profits as well. I understand breaking a contract the first time in my life cause I went into it naive, so joe gets a pass for this first time, but everytime after that, that's just reckless behavior, business wise.
Joe Buddens is known for not responding or just sending emojis.
Surprise surprise, Joe Budden is the common denominator once again in messing up a beautiful business.
why the fuck would crooked even bother wanting to work with joe if he was sick of doing business with him. dont just make an album for the fans dude you gotta wanna do it yaself first. plus he would have been fine with it being him royce and joell but without royce nah slaughterhouse is over. what type of shit is that. this guy needs to just accept joe doesnt want to make music anymore its got fuck all to do with slaughterhouse
the whole point of him trying to do busy with joe is for royce since crook respects royce and see's royce as a friend he is willing to work with joe cause of royce it's like wu tang and how they felt about divine being the manager cause he was rza's brother. They will do business he's rza brother but there is certain business aspects they can't agree. The fans def deserve a reason why the group is never coming back instead of waiting for a 50 year old joe budden to say hey everyone the group is no more cause we all couldn't come to a business agreement when it's really about joe wanting a bigger bag than everyone else.
Because he is a respectable Nigga, simple….joe budden on the other hand….
Joe: "I dont want that"
Also Joe: Doesn't explain what he wants...
Bruh? What are you an early 20's female? the fuuuuuck.
Crook is a real one! Love the album.
Joe blowing up in the media world. He making millions right now. He in a good place and don’t wanna rap anymore.
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Everybody needs to stop taking sides we all lose cause Slaughterhouse not getting back together they were my favorite group I'm not happy about this s*** But the album was good though I expected nothing less From crook and Joell
Glad my guys doing what they love one man never out shine the team love you took your career into your hands peace king 🤙🏽
Slaughterhouse should just be a revolving door of spitters, like WuTang where the OG members are there but they add and drop new people as needed. Make it a whole camp instead of just them 4 and they would have been fine
This hurts. Long Live Slaughterhouse.
I feel like these artists so emotional so you know sometimes you got to let go with the rope and let it be what it is keep hold on to it so long just ride your own wave
Kev gets me claustrophobic sitting so close to the wall!!
Budden brags about breaking contracts. Why would anyone want to do business with someone like that?
The fact he trying to sign another deal and Joe wanna go independent shows they on two different levels.
Yeah independent with him owning it. Why would crook let wack ass budden do that? What's his record label? Who's he ever signed before? Oh yeah fucking no one!
@@L1am21 I'm with Joe Budden y'all just wanna rap and get Rob of your money fuck that ownership is key
lmao crook been in this game way longer than joe and has several business' that he runs himself, crook knows what ownership looks like and how to make deals. dont let budden brainwash yall into thinking crook is some fool with no knowledge of business. Budden didnt wanna rap. point blank if budden wanted to rap he wouldve called crook and talked and crook and figured it out. but budden doesnt want to rap. every time he's called to rap, he finds an excuse not to do it, either it's business, or the vibes werent right, all that shit. budden just doesnt want to rap anymore. ppl gotta just accept that and move on
@@L1am21 they all own Slaughterhouse you just proving you don't know what you talking about. So just sit down and watch the show.
@@dark_child8766 prove it?
Now that it’s been a couple years looking back, the people that really listen to this album, the rise and fall of slaughterhouse without an existing biased, I’m just speaking to y’all, because y’all are the ones that really listen to the album, but y’all remember all the people that were just blindly supporting Joe during this time and talking shit about crooked and Joell ? And you remember the biggest argument they had was they were suckers because they were just using slaughterhouses’s name to put out a whole album. That was nothing but diss tracks? Remember, when that was the narrative? Anyone that had that take didn’t listen to the album because there wasn’t one diss song on the album . That was really just them speaking their truth about the heartache they had for their group breaking up. And to this day I’ve put people on to crooked and Joell because of that album. Younger hip-hop fans I work with had no idea about slaughterhouse because they’re just just now like in their early 20s and they love that album.
Shoulda asked Skyzoo to be the 4th member
Him and Joell suckers for that. Name the album something else because it’s not Slaughterhouse. Hell Slaughterhouse wasn’t even that good
So why are you bitching about them using the name
Giving someone 48 hours wouldn’t make me want to do business with you!
This man found his voice
First off let’s get this straight out the gate. Nobody should ever sign a contract they’ve never seen, just because their so called friend said it’s good. Crook said he wasn’t gonna go back and forth with the lawyers? Just tell me what you want and I’ll put in there, meanwhile they still haven’t seen this deal on paper, no lawyers can go through it or nothing just take it on crooks word😂😂😂This is pure foolishness that no real businessman would be part of🤦🏾♂️ I would of said no to.
Nobody was asking them to sign a contract they've never seen - they would have seen it if they'd communicated and actually given it a chance to move forward to a point where it could have been agreed on.
maybe Joe could have found out more about the contract if he had simply just communicated. HE NEVER CALLED CROOK. Not that it matters, because in Joes own words "I break contracts all the time". Joe's word means FUCK ALL and he has done this to himself.
@@FamiliarPresenc3 True
IN THE END. JOE WAS A HATER AGAINST KING CROOKED🔥🔥🔥
Damn man, this was rough smh. At least he can admit that he could've communicated better with Royce, but either way, that's a wrap for the group. Damn shame too smh
Crook seems like a solid dude but when it comes to contracts, deals, etc. you absolutely need to get lawyers involved. I don’t understand that point of wanting to do this “off the strength” not surprised Joe didn’t want to do this. Big red flag
Thank you
He didn't say to sign the deal with no lawyers. He said to let him know what clauses etc to put in the contract that would make Joe happy and then he'll present the deal in full to the group and their attorneys. That is where negotiations would start from rather than going back and forth. Don't you guys listen???
Maaaan, Crook made total sense of all of this craziness, Joe is a bonafide diva, point blank, this man Crook brokered a deal for the group, and could've gotten Joe anything he wanted, and dude Still didn't reach out to this man, he went thru another dude to communicate his disapproval for the deal, what type of high school immature sh!t is that?
This album was fire. Been rocking it since 4am this morning
Royce had a looooooot to say about this in JB’s new podcast that dropped today 👀
2 members of the group needed a bag ANY bag at that. It’s clear as day.
Budden’s funny style. Always has been, always will be.
If that’s his business partner and he was ready to find funding for the album I can see why an advance would be a slap in the face...he could’ve gave his “business partner” the Avenue to find the funding himself
When it comes down to it, Joe and Royce should've been told. It's a really shitty thing to do. Joe's history of being an arsehole is being used as an excuse for them being just as underhanded.
Joe is good at twisting shit and creating false narratives. They didn't want to give Joe that chance to lie before the album was ever made. The surprise element is what made truth come out.
Did Joe check in with anybody before talking Slaughterhouse on the podcast?
Let’s not forget how nasty this is. They could’ve just started an argument on twitter and got it all out but THIS. There is no chance of ever coming back after that level of disrespect. Bad business and fog 8k sales. Lmao
4:55-5:15
From the bits and pieces heard online, this is the entirety of how I assessed this situation.
Now that I'm hearing it directly from the artist, it confirms my previous suspicions.
Men must, at all times, communicate like men. When they deviate from this healthy mode of communication, you'll only produce unhealthy-minded relationships.
Sit down either face-to-face, a virtual chat, or the plethora of other modes of communication where you can say share your perspective, I can share my perspective, and we can arrive at a mutual understanding from direct communication.
The middle-man approach/refusal to engage is simply immature and unhealthy.
im waiting duet dis track between royce/joe vs crook/joel… may be that will ignite them making an slaughterhouse album!
Like Joe told Mal, It's none of their damn business
As I said on each video about SH, their issue was communication.
He did all this talking and left out an important part.
Should have set the deal memo to everyone
" I have a guy who has distribution with every label I can get whatever joe wants"
Who is it?
" He's like a brother to me"
Sure Crook
why would he tell you who it was...so the labels can find out that crook is using an inside source to get better deals off of them lol there's a reason he dodged the question. never name names bruv.
@@allisterfield6028 lmaooo mans ain’t got the juice like that. if he did, he would’ve got out of his shitty Death Row deal years before he actually did. Crook ain’t even big like that in LA. he ain’t never sold records like Game, Kendrick, Schoolboy Q, Dom Kennedy, YG, Nipsey, Tyga, etc
Yall wanna be in this man's business so bad to believe him lmao
@@infam0usP big facts crook might be the the BEST example of when talent don't match success because of low business IQ
@@allisterfield6028 doesn't disclose HIS business but has no problem disclosing Joe's business with shady and amalgam digital? He's telling you the truth except when it comes to the main issue they didn't want to do business with his janky sources TONY BUCHER is the guy's name btw
Well, at least Joe's shirt is.... Um..... 😂😂
They already squash the situation people
Looks like the guy from Cowboy Beepop
I still wonder how the two factions started with Joe and royce and crook and joelle.....always thought they were all tight
How you don’t like how Joe was using Royce but you’re ok disrespecting him?
This is classic. Crooked said he did some slimy shit in the most elegant way lol.
This is literally all about some he said she said bullshit. So Joel said on the live that Joe never turned down the deal he just said he was suppose to call Crook and he never did. But that he never actually rejected the deal. Then Crook gets on here and says Joe turned down the deal from the beginning but he was supposed to call him and let him know. Sounds like Joel told Crook one thing but said another thing on the live…. He told crook he turned down the deal. But on the live said he never actually turned it down but he never called crook back so that was him turning it down. He said she said… This is why you don’t have one member of a group negotiate for ALL FOUR members. Especially when those members don’t even have regular communication with one another. Asinine.
Joel told crook he turned down the deal because in essence he did. He had 48 hours to call crook for the details and he didn't, so Joe opted out by not calling and he's been retired for years so that's another part. It's not really he said she said because actually saying the word no isn't the only way to decline something, you can also decline it through actions
Dope interview
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Nothing happened for 10 years it seems ok for Joell and Crooked to do they thang.
Only thing I don't like is whenever Crook talks about this deal and who it was that has the deal he gets nervous. He's not as detailed. Like why not get your lawyers involved in the deal? I'd have to assume at this point in your careers you have lawyers you trust, so why not use them if for nothing more just to cover yourself. I don't like that.
this album gonna sell 13k tops
Notice crook refused to allow actual legal contact/counsel and never gives the details of the contract in interviews. I just know that deal is shit 😂
That don't matter. Bad deal or not, just communicate where you stand and if it works for you or not. It's that simple
@@andreearl3258 how is anyone supposed to say where they stand without shit in writing in front of them? Tf?
@@official3ird right tf is this mf talking about? Lmao not to mention the nigga did say where he stood "no I want details"
@@andreearl3258 Joe literally communicated where he stood and this snake Asa nigga went and x'd him out the deal lmao yall not paying attention
@@SpeakHerMusic proof that ppl have no business sense. If anyone believes that Crook could have a custom, tailored to Joe Budden contract made up, why tf wouldn't he have gotten all of them, everything they wanted? We all know that ain't the music business. Crook lyin his ass off.
Just watched the entire interview. Great job!
Gotta love crooked man bro is real. Took accountability for his wrongs and kept it real
00:00 the thumbnail alone shows your allegiance lol