RaDonda Vaught found guilty of criminally negligent homicide in death of patient
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2022
- RaDonda Vaught was found guilty of criminally negligent homicide and felony abuse of an impaired adult. She was facing a charge of reckless homicide, but the jury found her guilty of a lesser charge.
The hospital should be blamed for this. I’m an icu nurse with over 11 years experience. We DO NOT keep paralytics and certain medications in the medical cabinet (omnicell / Pyxis). This nurse was supposed to give the patient Versed to relax the patient and accidentally took out Vecuronium which causes paralysis. I’ve worked in 12 hospitals around 10 states. Vecuronium is not even kept on the unit. You have to get that directly from pharmacy or the charge nurse. I can’t believe they kept Vecuronium in the same place as the versed. This is a blunder. The hospital is at fault here.
Agreed but the nurse should have doubled check prior to injection. I do. That's how I was taught.
@@NikkiNole true. But damn. I can’t believe they could easily pull vecuronium on that unit. The bottle of versed and bottle of vecuronium don’t even look the same. Hell I also wonder if she didn’t scan it into epic or whatever EMR they use.
@HeyGirlHey there are a lot of ways she could have realized she was about to make a mistake. Any nurse with experience would immediately know that they are not drawing up versed. Or maybe this is the first time she’s given versed. SMH
Yup-medicine is full of this stuff, hospital admins create/purchase dangerous medical systems, and the poor front-line slobs who make mistakes using them are blamed.
Vecuronium should be in a bright red vial with five caps to remove to use it.
We can all second guess what we would do, but we’ve all been distracted, taking care of too many patients and trying to use a scanner that won’t work. Nurses will begin covering up their mistakes now instead of reporting them
The hospital should also be held accountable too. Didn’t they try to cover it up? They hid it. Short staffing and overworking their nurses and doctors.
Hospital paid DA to only... guarantee...
Hospitals are never held accountable for anything. You should know that by now.
Hospital administration will always throw nursing under the bus before anything.
This. She admitted she was at fault & was given no legal protection. The DA used to represent Vanderbilt. The witnesses got settlements. The nursing industry is going to be bare bones.
Maybe a civil suit will be next?
The FAMILY did not want the nurse prosecuted and have fully forgiven the RN. It was @Vanderbilt hospital that pushed the state to file charges in order to salvage its' image. The is simply the fall guy for their rampant systems failures. Why is there a paralytic sitting in Radiology for dispensation machine to begin with?! READ the CMS report on how horrific @Vanderbilt had been operating for years unchecked. File charges against Vanderbilt administrators and safety.
Thanks for sharing the info about the family, I was wondering.
All the nurses should go on strike and at least get better pay and a limit on their hours so they aren't being overworked.
@@SometimesPerplexed The family did not want her prosecuted, it was the hospital who pushed for it rather than also be charged with the same exact crime. There are zero winners in all this. HUGE lesson learned to go back to the mundane basics of checking and triple checking.
Vanderbilt administrators operated with INTENT. The nurse made a human error (albeit a huge one that cost a woman her life) but she will live with that the rest of her life. How long will it take the administrators to be talking on the golf course or in the club how they dodged another bullet?????
@HeyGirlHey The hospital had broken a broken medication scanner that they failed to fix. They definitely deserve blame.
If the DA thinks this case is about one woman, then he needs to ask nursing professionals everywhere if they feel that way. WHAT charges has the DA brought against the administrators that covered this up?
Only one person did this...HER
@@June-tb4vi SHE admitted it- administration tried to hide it!
@@June-tb4vi She did it within a system that fucked her over. She deservers to not be a nurse for sure it was a gross mistake but the hospital who won't fix their medication scanning system deserves equal blame. She does not deserve prison, the administrators possibly do.
@@yonallb oh so the nurse who accidentally killed someone is the victim here? How strange...I should have thought that the patient she killed was the one that got fucked over in this scenario.
Totally agree! What an ass!! He has NO CLUE what they just did. Nurses are scared every day, working with peoples' lives in our hands, with a thousand different tasks and responsibilities and call bells going off, then phone calls from doctors, other units, family members, giving/getting report on patients, labs, orders, specimen collections, giving everyone's meds on time, keeping track of all our patient's tests/schedules/preps and past medical histories and allergies and of course charting, charting, and more charting!! And did I mention we are doing this still while holding the responsibility of our patients' lives?? We are scared of making a mistake, especially something as detrimental as RaDonda did, and of losing our license and livelihood. But to now worry that we could be CRIMINALLY charged and sent to JAIL if we make a mistake.....yeah, that's gonna have a big impact! Currently looking for a job outside of a hospital setting.
I hope this verdict causes nurses all across this country to unionize and fight for better work conditions, staffing minimums, limits on mandatory overtime and total number of hours in a row a nurse can be forced to work. Its time to fight back.
Against nurses who kill people by being incompetent?
I agree completely!
@@June-tb4vi And what job do you do that makes you an expert?
They should push for only doctors to give patients medications. I wouldn't risk my life in prison for that pay.
@@donadams8345 I’d prefer if you just do your job to your best ability like you were trained and paid 6 figures to do mam
I don't know where she worked but every nurse in that hospital should find a job in another city or state.
Vanderbilt. I wouldn't take my dead dog there for them to pronounce.
I’ve been a nurse 21 years and this could happen to every nurse. Everyone thinks it easy to take care of people The nursing career is crap and I feel sorry for who ever enters it I personally can’t wait to get out Her life is ruined by trying to help someone due to being over worked, short staffed, underplayed, and more pts then one person can handle. My heart goes out to her.
Good Riddance.
I couldn't have said it better. I don't understand the criminal charges here.
@@kathyw7143 It’s pretty hard for me to believe that she made a simple mistake. Look at a vial of versed and then a vile of vecuronium. There are multiple clear differences between the two, would be easy for someone with no medical experience whatsoever to tell which was which. She’s incompetent and should serve some time.
No no no. Are you aware of the details in this case? Please inform yourself. This kind of error would not happen to any professional who was paying attention to what they were doing. If this could happen to "every nurse" , then I need to relinquish my license and pray to god neither I nor anyone I love is ever a patient in a hospital. You may feel differently if the patient involved in this case was YOUR mother.
@@andybub45 You really don't have a clue. Your comment betrayed your ignorance.
What I want to know is what are they doing to prevent this from happening again, what have they learned and how are they correcting it?
About time a white person gets what they deserve. If she was black she would've gotten more time amd it wouldn't have even made the news.
BLM. I bet she is a racist trump supporter BLM
Probably nothing the hospital tried covering it up until they were threatened to lose medicare funding.
Probably sent everyone an email and made marginal improvements to their med admin system. The overall issues will go unchanged.
A third of nurses surveyed this year already indicated they are leaving the field, primarily due to work conditions and mental/physical exhaustion throughout Covid. This verdict will further the problem with some changing their minds about going into this profession.
If you want to be responsible for the life and death of your patients you must be held to a higher standard. Nurses are patients too. What if she had accidentally killed a doctor or a nurse?
@@ladydeerheart1 Whose holding the hospitals/nursing homes responsible for understaffing to cut costs and working their nurses/doctors ridiculous hours?
Police and Teachers are next on the list, mostly do to political corruptness and greed by Administrators.
The Peasants are getting restless again and they want their CountrIes back.
If you think holding people accountable will further a problem, you're probably a part of the problem and terrified of accountability.
Covid has nothing to do with it. People are suffering because of the government. The lockdowns, overly-generous unemployment benefits, unconstitutional vaccine and mask mandates, and ridiculous health guidelines have made the healthcare field a flaming dumpster fire of misery and they're woefully understaffed to boot.
I am a RN. Her mistake was egregious, I really do think she should lose her license and the hospital should be held accountable as well. But jail time? No. This will only lead to nurses not reporting their mistakes and making the already dangerous hospital setting even more dangerous. This is not good for patients.
Thank you for not making excuses for her
100% what you said! I agree! losing her license keeps people safe by keeping her out of the hospital... but to keep her off the street as well? Does no good. It will only cause harm, as it will cause nurses to be too afraid to report honest mistakes out of fear of prison time
@@tara6959 this was not an honest mistake. this was negligence that resulted in someone dying. All she had to to was read the bottle. This wasn't someone merely getting sick. THEY DIED!
@@PatriotGamesROCKS yes it was an honest mistake. I said "honest mistake" I didn't say it was a small mistake or an easy mistake to make, or an excusable mistake... I Said "honest" meaning she didn't do it on purpose. That's what that means. The fact that someone died does not change the fact that it was a mistake
@@tara6959 negligence. you keep saying mistake. all those nurses cheering scares me. those are some terrible people.
There never should have been homicide charges brought against her. My God. I am chronically ill and have to put my complete trust in many doctors and nurses. I sure don't want then scared to do their job. Even the patient's family didn't want her charged. This is going to set a very negative precedent. Why isn't the hospital being held accountable too?
Because the hospital didn't administer the drug. Let's say if she did do it on purpose should the hospital be blamed for that as well. It was her mistake she has to own up to it.
@@jamesball8519 idk if you followed the case thoroughly but she did own up to her mistake and followed the proper channels on her end. She reported her mistake immediately to her superiors, the hospital and even the board of nursing. The hospital apparently went above and beyond to cover their tracks and make it so the event never happened and failed to report such an event to their proper channels. There's a thing called "just culture" in the hospital intended to promote safety and to learn from mistakes and prevent sentinel events such as these to happen again. Obviously this no longer exist if the hospitals end up throwing the nurses under the bus when shit hits the fan.
@@jamesball8519 she did own up to it. The hospitals should NEVER put a paralytic in the machine. They didn't provide a scanner either. They had 2 docs sign a false death report as well. Maybe you should research what happened. Nobody ever comment she didn't wasn't owning up to it
@@jamesball8519 she did own it because we are supposed to have a culture that is accepting of error so that said errors can be rectified. While she did mess up, it was also a systems failure at every level. Now, doctors and nurses alike are wary of self-reporting errors. In turn, this will lead to worse health outcomes for patients.
MY GOSH YOUR RIGHT IT SHOULD HAVE SAID COLD BLOODED MURDER...AS IT WAS
I do feel bad for the patients family but also, yikes. Like hospitals can sit pretty and over work nurses to the point that they’re seeing double and making mistakes and they won’t be held accountable. It’ll be all on the nurse. Fuck that. Healthcare is gonna move towards automation cause no one is gonna wanna deal with this
Well if this type of nurse is the standard of care, maybe it would be a better thing to automate it. In what UNIVERSE are you not responsible for making life and death decisions with drugs?
@@theShamrockShepherdWagon It was a mistake you nutcase!! She didn't CHOOSE the drug purposefully. They have similar names and knowing how short staffed hospitals are, she didn't double check. which yes is her fault. But for you and some others to make this out to be worse than it was is ridiculous....and unless yo8ve worked in healthcare, you'll accept the position of the prosecutors without even listening to HOW it happened and under what circumstances.
@@amandasummers7881 You are the nutcase! I am nurse and not in a million years would I ever not double check the medication I am giving someone! Doesn't matter how exhausted or over worked I am, that is even more of a reason to be careful! Its not like oh sorry I gave you the wrong food, its deadly drugs we are handling! If this was your mother, you would not be thinking this way.. I am sure of that!
@@mjarboesdf if it was my mother, I’d be furious but it’s more than enough to yank her license and ensure she never works in health care again …that is devastating enough in my opinion. The jail time is what upsets people cause this is a high stakes career already and a lot of pressure…now if there’s an incident, we’re on our own? The hospital that created this unsafe condition escapes responsibility??? Nah, that’s not cool.
@@NoIDontActuallyLiveInSeattle Absolutely agree with you! Don't get me wrong I feel horrible for her, but drugs are deadly, plain and simple! You can not make a mistake like this and just get a smack on the wrist! I Do think taking her license would have been enough! She does not deserve jail time, especially since she came right out and admitted to her mistake and if i read correctly, the family didnt even want to press charges against her! The hospital is the one who pushed for charges! They also need to be held accountable! I do think nurses need more protection, some type of law that could protect us from certain situations and mistakes!
Vanderbilt hung this employee out to dry. The crime was the coverup. Where are punitive actions against the administrators???? I am sure medical professionals will remember THIS is how Vanderbilt values their employees.....
This is probably how all organizations would act.
I’d say the hospital has been protecting this dope to save their reputation. She’s probably done this a few times before.
@@ericeandco I agree. I'm glad she's unable to hurt anyone else now.
I’m pretty sure the family doesn’t think THE crime was the coverup. It is A crime, but the coverup didn’t cause the death, right?
Well said ! The real issue shouldn't be about assigning blame as much as identifying where the "system" failed, with many good people at the helm (including Ms Vaught). Yet she is the ONLY one assuming her part in this tragic mistake. It's just sad and my heart breaks for this family and it breaks for Radonda Vaught. She's not a criminal. Tired, careless, rushed, distracted, negligent, heartbroken, ashamed, deeply sorry, destroyed... (any or all of these), but not a criminal.
She told them about her mistake and hospital covered it up!!! Not her!! I am not a nurse or in the medical field but I am a patient who is at the hospital alot. Human error happens. Punish the people who hid the mistake. Not her!
@HeyGirlHey
You have no idea what you’re talking about
Your crazy....she made the mistake...she made the mistake and killed a women
@@olglory4648 HOW DARE YOU!
2 separate issues. She made the mistake which caused the death. The death already occurred BEFORE the hospital covered it up. The hospital didn’t cause the death, right? Accessory after the fact for the hospital but she pulled the trigger.
@@olglory4648 Alot of people are overworked and exhausted, not just nurses! There is absolutely NO excuse why this happened! If this was your family member, you would blame her and want justice! No matter what medication you are giving, it is extremely important.. life or death important to always double check what you are giving a patient!
I hope that this could spark major and significant changes in policies and regulations. The importance of safe nurse-patient ratio and the negative effects of overworked nurses. This must be a wake-up call to the health care system.
They won't
They don't care. They threw her under the bus and paid the family off.
@@iclarke11 she made a clear mistake that lead to a patient death . She should be punish
A wake up that we need more abortions.
So many people would die, but if nurses joined together and went on strike for better pay and not being overworked things would have to change quickly. 🤷♀️
Gotta scare the underpaid, overworked laborers back in line eh? I'm sure this will fix everything for everyone, and no raises or new hires will be necessary.
What new hires? Nursing subreddit is full of nursing students asking if they should drop out and veteran nurses talking about quitting or retiring early. I left bedside nursing for a desk job right before the pandemic. I had applications out for jobs to return to clinical nursing, but I just withdrew them all. I can't risk the possibility that as a part of my job helping people and saving lives while working in a dangerous environment with dangerous drugs that I could be taken from my children and sent to jail if I make an honest mistake.
@@TheVillainOfTheYear that is sarcasm my friend
@@starseed3705 I am aware. I am agreeing with the above comment and adding an additional point.
I’ve worked in seven different hospitals and yes I do blame the nurse for not being more vigilant. however what I truly don’t understand is why a PARALYTIC is kept on the unit. it has no place on a unit except under lock and key and double signature safeguard or in the operating room.
Because it is a systems/hospital failure. The system is punitive against nurses. Doctors can make an error in prescribing medicine and if the nurse does not catch the error, it is his/her fault. The doctor has no liability.
This is idiotic. It’s the hospital’s responsibility to avoid sentinel events. With your logic, every doctor and nurse should be jailed for the countless mistakes they make. You as well. Or are you so perfect that you have never made a mistake? That’s what i thought. Take several seats, ma’am.
Amen Ms. Louis.
@@DliciousFilms I don’t think you got her point. If the meds are kept separately from the meds she was supposed to receive then that’s the problem
Its an ICU. Regardless, the ANA should do more. This will hurt the profession
If they’re bringing nurses into court they need to start bringing doctors into the courthouse to. Working in the medical profession is a hard job, especially when nurses are overworked with 18 hour shifts. Accidents can happen. I don’t think she intentionally try to kill a patient I think it was just an accident. Unfortunately this is the signs of the times we all have to crosser t’s and dotting our I. Patients are supposed to be telling the nurses and doctors the name and date of birth. But unfortunately when people are not able to do this, They need to use the scanner to make sure they’re in the right patient’s room. Unfortunately this will continue to happen because they’re overworking I would nursing staff. The nurse is a more like a doctor! This is a sad situation.
You are absolutely right..I am a nurse ..accident can happen..having more patients,patients are more sick..working under pressure and long shift..nurses are not appreciate like they should. We have the life on yours patient in yours hands...people don't realize that..I stay in quebec and in the past 5 years accidents are raising..its inacceptable for the nurses and for the patients..something have to change
You are absolutely right..I am a nurse ..accident can happen..having more patients,patients are more sick..working under pressure and long shift..nurses are not appreciate like they should. We have the life on yours patient in yours hands...people don't realize that..I stay in quebec and in the past 5 years accidents are raising..its inacceptable for the nurses and for the patients..something have to change
My aunt died because of a doctor's huge mistake and when we confronted him he just laughed in our faces.
@@moonluna464 ; Doctors & surgeons do tend to be more arrogant. I’m so sorry that happened to you & your family! Prayers & Blessings to You… 💜🙏🏼🌈🌦💜
You just make an excuse for murder.
We ALWAYS have to double check the med, pt, order, etc however that being said this is why a long time ago I decided to not allow the hospital to overwork me even during COVID. I set my schedule and work shifts in which I can safely practice my profession without making such errors. This is also part of practicing safe nursing. Facilities that run 24/7 put an exorbent amount of pressure on nurses to work extra shifts even offering bonuses however I don't budge and would rather have the peace of mind of not being overworked and practicing safe nursing vs the money even if that takes living a more simple life. In order to do this, as a nurse you really have to stand your ground with the hospital. Because at the end of the day they're going to leave you out in the cold when things like this happen. They don't care about you as a nurse, they only care about themselves and their profits.
It was not about one woman. It was about a sick health care system that has been kidnapped by business. I'm so sick of pushing everything off on nursing.
Your embarrassing...it is her fault...the nurse
@@June-tb4vi are you in the arena?
@@annfuller9044 No Alaina Buchholz is a Russian bot who has this same reply repeated by her throughout the whole comment section.
I remember a couple years ago, my hospital really cracked down on what meds we could override in Pyxis. This case was probably why. I think high risk drugs, like Vercurium, should need a second-nurse verification. She ignored many red flags but the hospital should be held liable as well for allowing such a dangerous drug to be so easily accessible.
its because it was included in the jcaho guidance update around 2018.
yes youre right this case very likely had something to do with it. This med is almost entirely held in hospital core pharmacies now because we cant trust nurses to know the difference between a vial full of powder that has to be reconstituted with liquid, pops up with several error/caution/lethal/fatal warnings, has an oshit sticker or label added to the top vs a vial full of liquid
👍 agree
These type of drugs should probably have a MD verification honestly. At minimum, double checks. This is too much on one person and makes the whole nursing profession look like crap. It's easy to see why some would look into other things.
@@MJ-gj6mj MD's dont know how the drugs work lol
Radonda, go on speaking tour after this is all over and teach all nurses out there the importance of safety. Radonda should have never been able to get such a drug so easy, yes I’ve been a nurse for 32 years and I see both sides.
I have often wondered why vecuronium is so easily accessible. Somehow it should be linked in the system only to patients who are on mechanical ventilation. Otherwise only in the RSI Kit.
You should charge the people that tried to cover this up. The hospital and administration should be liable
I am a nurse working a shift in a med surg ward right now, all the nurses and physicians on duty are talking about this case and all are shocked and or frightened by this verdict because we have ALL made medication errors, no they weren't errors that cost a patients life but they very well could have been, not because we are incompetent, lazy or uneducated but because we are almost always short staffed even before the pandemic, frequently over worked and because we are human, this absolutely will have an affect on the nursing profession, this case highlights the fact that we can be held criminally accountable for a mistake or the failure of a system that goes well beyond the control of a single nurse, this profession has been rewarding for me and I can't imagine doing anything else but I would advise any young person considering nursing to choose something else, the risk of going to prison for making a mistake is now a real thing.
Facts
Yes it is truly frightening that we can now be sent to prison for years and years for something that is a mistake. And especially for nurses who have devoted their life to helping people. What is wrong with this country?! Are we so determined to keep the many many prisons we have built filled that we are criminalizing mistakes now? Enough!
This was a careless mistake that could have been prevented numerous times had she paid attention to what she was doing.
Charge her, fine. But then hold others accountable for their mistakes. For every wrong limb or organ amputated or removed, the surgeon should go to jail, right?
For every airplane that crashes, make sure we charge every pilot or mechanic at fault. Our safety mechanisms are based on the way aviation safety is managed. That is, mistakes are reported to ensure protocols are created in a SYSTEM culture of change. It is never just 1 person or 1 thing that is responsible to cause a tragedy, in aviation or health care.
they do charge pilots and maintainers if they were negligent in their duties and have faced jail time. Also for surgeons they dont go to jail but they face mal practice suits. Lastly you really have no idea how these things work. If you read an Aviation accident report they do exactly that, find the one thing that went wrong. They did the same in this case, they found what she did wrong and that led to the patients death.
Exactly
@@tinyhippo1644have you ever read an aviation report? The investigation is conducted and a report is written for the sole purpose of the recommendations for change. PS: it’s never 1 thing that is needed to change. It’s always a chain of events that occur, which all need to have a system to prevent those multiple of chains from occurring. Also, please show me one pilot or mechanic charged criminally in the US for a plane crash. Yes, it happens in Russia & other random countries, but not the U.S.
@@dijanakovacevic6107 I'm what did you just say? You think they go through the entire report and shrug and say we arnt sure but it could be these things?? They find the issue, why it was and issue, and how to make it a none issue down the line. And it took me one quick search to find at least 2 case where pilots were charged. Because by your logic if the engine came lose and hit the tail would they not say the engine was the cause of the tail coming apart?
@@tinyhippo1644 Be honest, you’ve never read an accident report. I follow a lot of aviation incidents and it’s almost always a set of circumstances that add up. The Swiss cheese model of safety fails in these incidents. And the investigation and final report and recommendation is just that- a report aimed at systemic safety improvements.
I am not an attorney, but I am a nurse with 3 decades of experience under my belt. I think Mr. Jackson's comments about whether this was an attack against the nursing community or not was completely obtuse. Of course it will impact nurses across the country. Of course it will influence other jurisdictions with the same narrow-minded approach to accountability to put others in a similar situation elsewhere in the country because he was successful at doing it here. His thoughts and intentions may have been on this one case, however the unintended consequences of his prosecution here will still have vast effects across the country in healthcare systems. No longer can nurses reasonably and voluntarily report errors without the fear of violating their own rights under the 5th Amendment. This is a real problem for patient safety across our nation.
Hi Susan
Let's make that mistake on your mom see how u feel
You sound like you're threatening every person that finds themselves in the unfortunate position of being a patient at a hospital. You and other nurses have said the same thing and quite frankly it makes me sick. Like .... damn ..... I don't ever want you as a nurse. So please if you are going to threaten all of us about the shitty level of Healthcare we will now receive, please do us a favor and let us know what hospital you work at.
@@Melissa-in6un If you feel that way.......don't get sick and stay out of the hospital.
@@paulskopic5844 DERP .. it shouldn't be that way. Nurses should care A LOT more than what some in here do. The patients are the ones footing the bill. Healthcare is a business (which is actually the main reason it's in the shitter now) but it's unfortunately a business and the patient is the high paying customer so we deserve much better than a complacent negligent nurse or nurses that are just fine with other nurses being complacent and or negligent and remember .. you are not so important that you will never get a shitty nurse yourself.
This is just an incredibly sad situation overall. One mistake (admitted honestly), and an immeasurable cost.
And she needs to pay the price. What if this was your son daughter mother or father????? Justice for the family💕
She actually had no recourse other than to admit her "mistake". After the patient had coded, and after she gave the bag containing the vial and used syringe to the primary nurse for documentation. The patient's primary nurse noted that the vial contained vecuronium not versed. How did the patient's primary nurse notice that Vaught gave the wrong medication, she READ the label. Something that Vaught did not do.
I don't give a fuck if it was the biggest freak accident in the world. A patient is dead. She may be able to pull the "I'll have to live with this for the rest of my life" crap, but there have to be consequences when a human being dies.
@@kahledblackman318
Life in prison
@@kahledblackman318 She did not try to cover it up. The hospital covered it up. She immediately admitted her mistake.
Who wants to be a nurse now ?? Not me !!! We already have a tremendous nursing shortage and this only makes it worse.
And if that was your mom that died?
I’m seriously reconsidering as well
How many people have died in hospitals due to medical errors and yet was reported as a natural death. No consequences? If I make a mistake I lose my job but killing a patient is just another day.
@@gingersnap5245 what happens to the doctor who mistakenly killed people and don’t get time? Or the surgeons who cover up their tracks and later found out but still is able to practice and live freely?? Yes she missed many many red flags !!! But she did not intentionally kill. Yea take away her license but this ???
@@gingersnap5245 who have doctors and surgeons who should be charged for the same thing and are not because they’re bringing in so much money for the hospital. And I’m not speaking about cases only because some doctors and surgeons just pay to keep others quite.
The hospital should be held responsible for this! Why is vercuronium within her immediate area of care in the first place!!! This is so unfair!! This is not fair at all.
Nana you are wrong. She was negligent. Obviously she didn’t do it on purpose but she lost sight of her responsibilities while administering the shot. It’s not debatable.
@@bigtimer6074 It’s clearly debatable as it went to court.
@@bigtimer6074 It will ALSO be debatable again at sentencing so we shall see what the judge debates on this one.
@@Tony-qb2ed unfortunately she screws up or something much worse actually took place. Because of the process and checks in place it was a huge avoidable mistake and therefore negligence or … well maybe it wasn’t a mistake at all.
Wrong. Doesn't matter what is kept where. She ignored many, many red flags.
This is bull shit!!!! No one wants to be a nurse and I don’t blame them! Noble profession? Nurses are forced to work short and do everything and yet this horrible accident happens and they are criminally charged?? 🙄
Anyone that has worked in nursing will tell you it's not 'nobel.'
If registration is not there who registers? Nurses.
If someone poops on the floor and housekeeping is off for the night, who cleans up the $hit? Nurses.
When a patient or family member is violent and security is not readily available who is deal with an angry possibly violent person? Nurses..
When the lab is busy or can't get blood drawn who's responsible for drawing up labs? Nurses..
When a medicine is not reconstituted but requires special dosing, who mixes the meds? Nurses..
When a patient can hardly move and PT/OT are not available, who is responsible? Nurses
When a doctor is busy (lazy?) and wants to give 20 orders who puts the orders in? Nurses.
I could go on and on and on
The same airplane mechanic is not allowed to work on both airplane engines during maintenance; otherwise, she could make a mistake on both engines. Therefore, why not have a minimum of two nurses verify a medicine for injection before it is administered? This standard of "trust but verify" is used through industry and is a Russian proverb that was used during the Reagan administration.
There just aren't enough nurses. I had eight patients today, all post-op. There were 2 other nurses all with the same ratio. One tech.
@@iclarke11 Well, when you bet your ass and lose, you know what you can lose. Most of my serious mistakes at work happened when I was in a hurry because I didn't have enough help. Please don't make the same mistake.
@@iclarke11 Is checking vital signs and waiting at least 5 mins after administering a dose of medicine like this part of a nurses job ? The warning labels were on the side and bottom of the container.
@@seymourbutts4654 You have no idea what it is like to do the job. The amount of things happening at once during is a busy shift is literally ridiculous, there is frequently no time for that much consideration. You are just trying to keep from drowning aka trying to not kill someone on a busy shift. She completely fucked up yah, but you can't paint it like that, you don't read the warning labels on every single thing in the hospital. You would never be able to take care of your patients.
@@yonallb What you said really scares me. The level of competence has gone downhill. I don't care how understaffed and overworked you are. Do your job and stand up for yourselves if your experience is unfair. don't defend incompetence.
For anyone who tries to say this is about one woman’s mistake, and not the profession is either flat out lying or the most ignorant human.
The general public seems truly clueless on just how frequently mistakes are made in healthcare. Whether it’s in a hospital setting, surgery, a doctor’s office or even a pharmacy… it happens all the time. Sadly most never hits the media for reasons I can only guess.
But yes, nurses should be worried. So should techs, pharmacists, doctors. When you look at how often this happen… and how often these mistakes lead to people losing their lives, it can truly take your breath away. I don’t know the stats since covid, but prior to the pandemic, medical mistakes was in the top 3 cause of death.
Take a moment to look at those statistics and you’ll see there are a lot of people who are afraid. Frankly, they should be.
I agree the public has no idea. Now less nurses will report their mistakes so that changes can be made to strengthen our healthcare procedures. It’s a sad day for nursing. 😞
It is interesting that this nurse was charged considering how many medical errors there are every year. Plus it opens the door for even more suits because mistakes literally happen every day considering the size of the field.
Actually the public does know. Sloppy medical care is so rampant that everyone has experienced it or knows someone who has. It will never stop until these nurses and doctors, pharmacists, etc. start facing consequences. But I expect the Judge to give her a wrist slap.
@@nakedpnkmolerat actually everybody doesn’t know. Most people I’ve talked with think Drs and nurses are above other people, saints. I could show most of them examples of accidents and they’d say “my dr says this or my nurse says that” and it’s gospel to them. There have been times my own parents were prescribed Rx’s and the pharmacy showed them that the particular medication was not to be mixed with the medications they were already taking. They said “well my dr prescribed it to me so that is what I need”. With the proof right in front of their faces .. they never blinked an eye about it and told the pharmacist he was wrong! Thank goodness for him calling the office back & discussing it being wrong bc the dr immediately thanked him for pointing it out and the dr did change the medication. He asked the pharmacist which medication he thought was more in line with the patients scenario! We could hear the conversation and I was amazed bc my parents were just going along like it’s not a problem. Because they just love their Drs and nurses. People trust them and they don’t always do the research.
Ive been in healthcare for 25 years, I make IV’s in a very busy inner city hospital I’m not afraid. Why?? Because I check and double check every vial, diluent bag, label, and dose BEFORE I make it. My accuracy rate is 100%. I pride myself on this. Patients depend on the healthcare system to take care of them. While I sympathize with RaDonda, any nurse worth her salt KNOWS versed doesn’t get reconstituted. This should have been been a red flag for her. I’m also not negating the role the hospital played. There are too many missing pieces in this story.
This was a tragic unintentional mistake that she seems sincerely remorseful about. Surely it has been a heavy burden for the victim's family, not to mention the victim herself. With all of the violent career criminals allowed on the streets with little or no bail, I will sleep safe at night knowing the DA spent 4 years prosecuting this case on Vaught. What a complete joke the DA is. He is a disgrace. Would love to see his caseload and how many drug traffickers and child predators he didn't get around to going after because of this. Unbelievable.
Always with the deflection . . . .
Dude don’t the DA, it’s not his fault. He is simply doing his job.
Agreed. I hope this is appealed to a higher court.
@@breaker9414 DA could have chosen not to prosecute but went ahead anyway.
What happened to her employer? They should be held accountable in some form.
Fun Fact: Nurses across the nation came to support her…but NOT one DOCTOR did!!! Hmmmm…🤔 It would have gone a long way if Doctor’s showed up….Where were the DOCTORS? 🤔🤔🤔
We're horrified that nurses are DEFENDING this incompetence.
@@theShamrockShepherdWagon agree 10000 %
Its funny how every single nurse that got interviewed didn't mention the death of the patient at all, but seem to care that the defendant losing her nursing licence is enough...
And that surprises who ?
@@theShamrockShepherdWagon (As an RN) Wholeheartedly in agreement with you. Part of the evidence brought to trial was the red medication cap with PARALYTIC AGENT written in all caps. I am by no means perfect. And, yes, everybody makes genuine mistakes. But, all the facts of this scenario point to pure negligence. And I am so surprised by everybody defending all of her actions. When the reporter said that nurses all over the country are thinking “they could be Radonda”.... No, I don’t. Like they said- nursing is a noble profession. Which in my mind means it should be upholding a very high standard of safety and patient care. Everybody is talking about poor staffing. Yeah, staffing can be downright awful most of the time. But Radonda stated that the staffing was good that day.
This was not an isolated incident the third leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer is medical error, on average in the United States 190,000 patients die each year as a direct result of Hospital Errors
Yes but what needs to be learned here is that nurses are overworked and is short staffed 100% of the time so someone needs to look at that and see how things can be changed to help the medical profession during this pandemic
@@leahnore these statistics have nothing to do with the so-called pandemic
Happens all the time! I was shot up- pregnant btw- w someone's depo Provera shot.. The nurse lost her medical license.. She cried and apologized but .. still..
@@leahnore well, maybe hospitals shouldve thought about that before they started mandating vaccines for a virus with a 99 percent survival rate. Hospitals were already short staffed, and then add a mandated vaccine on top of that where you KNOW nurses are going to quit.
@@mamas-jeep1984 did it cause you to lose your baby? Or was the baby affected?
Newly 300,000 patients die every year due to medial errors.
Whoops!
we have no power , we are considered mercenaries if we go on strike, I quit nursing in 2011 and will keep on not going back. I was an ER and ICU nurse but when the director of my ICU was giving us 3 patients and cutting our support staff so his budget was in line and he got a bonus while we were worked to death, canceled on our scheduled shifts, and the HCA hospital system didn't even get stock options. This is a crime, nonetheless still staying away, boards of nursing don't support us they support corporate institutions (ahem. California Board of Nursing saying nurses can go back to work if COVID+ and not symptomatic was a move for the hospitals and staffing not nurses, they persecute us and take directions from the hospitals and special interest groups. Hence we are persecuted for the smallest of infractions, have our conduct outside of our workplace scrutinized, have to pass psychological tests to work in most hospitals, keep up with continuing education, have pattens, co workers, doctors, families and administration treat us like we are expendable and walk all over the female nurses. Male nurses are treated like doctors by administration, doctors, patients and families while women nurses are treated like someones personal servant not someone who is highly educated and has the knowledge and cares enough to save someones life. Good luck communicating to your nurse in 10 years cause half will be foreign, the rest of us you will be paying for SSDI for all the psychological and physical abuse we have endured through this pandemic and before . Cemented by the entitled Americans who are ceaselessly clueless and rude and abusive to nurses in general.
You said it all Lilley!!!! Absolutely correct
Word of advice - if you go to the hospital bring an advocate. Someone with medical knowledge and before you take medication ask for a list of what you are being given at that time. Learn what your prescribed medication will look like. Do not let anyone put anything in your IV unless you ask them what it is. I had a nurse give me morphine again after I told her I was having a reaction to it. I preferred the Extra Strength Tylenol and would talk to the doc about it. She came back and said that the Tylenol was used up and that she would get more from the doc in the morning. She injected morphine into my IV anyway so I wouldn't be in pain. I spent the next several hours short of breath and feeling horrible. I now have morphine on my list of allergies to medications for all doctor/hospital records. I was horrified this happened to me. Do everything you can to be proactive about every single thing that happens in the hospital. Not mean or nasty - just vigilant. It could save your life.
You are on point with this comment. Sadly not too many people have a knowledgable person that can be an advocate. I was one for both of my parents and doctors and nurses did not like me because I asked all kinds of questions. I caught so many errors beforehand that I saved my dad several times. A doctor almost gave my father an antibiotic that could have given him a deadly arrhythmia. The doctor said that was the only one they could give and I said you have more in your arsenal to chose from. I could write a book on errors. I had a case manager even thank me for my advocacy. It is upsetting but what is even more upsetting is the cover up by this hospital and the death certificate said the patient died of natural causes. Two neurologists didn't reveal to the medical examiner the medication error. Vanderbilt will get away with it and the medical community has zero clue as to why the public lacks trust and faith in the hellcare system.
What is disgusting is that it is all about covering your ass and nurses won't report errors now. Just great.
That’s different from what happened here. She willingly gave you something she KNEW you did not want. That deserve some type of repercussions
It is a god damn shame that seems to be such a common practice in a hospital setting. Even primary care physicians (in my own personal experience, considering several people I know as well) seem to just prescribe whatever they think is appropriate without cross-checking current medications or taking adverse reactions to medication seriously. Soon enough I imagine we might see an expansion to insurance coverage for a knowledgeable advocate to meet you at the hospital in case anything goes wrong. Wouldn't be a bad idea imo.
Nurse here. The nurse that did that to you is fucking brain dead. When a patient tells me they do not want a certain medication, I do not even give it to them cos I would rather avoid an incident of a bad reaction than to impose my own will on a patient. That nurse that did that to you is insane.
@@terrapinflyer273 It would be nice but in no way will it ever happen. There are patient advocates that you can call if there is a problem but not one to stick by your bedside asking questions. We have to remember that medical errors are killing hundreds of thousands of patients a year. The medical community just wants to shove it under the rug.
I've been an RN for 30 years. If a nurse claims to never have made a medication error, and I've heard nurses make that claim, it just means the errors they have made have slipped by unnoticed. It really does happen to everyone.
That is so true! I worked as an ICU nurse and I certainly made medication errors and by the grace of God nobody was harmed or killed. If someone says they never made any mistakes they are a liar! I ended up retiring at the age of 50 because I was being given 3 to 4 patients when the standard of care is 2 patients. Oh and empty the trash, be on the rapid response/code blue team, no CNA's, change sheets and give bed baths, no monitor tech, blood draws, etc, etc! It is not humanly possible to do that kind of job without making any mistakes. I would have liked to work another 15 years but I knew it would be risky and something bad could happen.
As a nurse I know that nurses make medication errors all the time. You don't get it if you don't work in healthcare. You are given unrealistic patient loads and are interrupted constantly. Every nurse I have worked with has made at least one medication error. The fact she is going to jail is only making the issue worse. Now nurses will be less likely to report errors. The real issue is the hospital system for not having a working medication system. If their system was working she would not have had to over ride any medications. People that don't see this are dumb. Blaming one individual is only prolonging the issue. Finding a scape goat changes nothing. Then again I am not surprised when 1/3 of the country believes in conspiracy theories.
That's scary for sure. Especially considering LVNs are handing out the meds in many senior facilities. Less pay then the RN to begin with. 😬
🤷 *Reporters: why not ask the district attorney if they believe that a prosecutor should go to prison if they accidentally get a guilty verdict and send somebody to prison that turns out to be innocent. There’s no law against it, but should there be a law against that? You can’t even sue a prosecutor for money if they falsely prosecute you or send you to prison and you turn out to be innocent.*
Not the same, a DA doesn't do an "override" to get a guilty verdict. I'm glad she got found guilty but she probably won't do any time at all in prison, she will walk because she doesn't have a prior criminal record, but thank God there is Karma and she has a big azz as it is apparent this nurse isn't sorry for what she did, she doesn't care, she still doesn't get that she chose to do an override to obtain that wrong medicine. No this is not justice losing her nursing license isn't enough in my opinion. She'll get hers one day.
@@lisaderenard4467 you act like you know her on a personal level. You’re just making assumptions about who she is and how she feels. I hope Karma gets you for your shitty outlook.
@@lisaderenard4467 … Well actually when a DA purposely ignores evidence that would exonerate someone than that DOES equate to an override.
@@beepbeep164 Wrong.
@@lisaderenard4467 it’s sickening that they clearly are trying to make a connection with errors. Constantly making excuses. It’s simple: IF YOU DO NOT LIKE BEING A NURSE AND ABIDING BY THE PROTOCOLS OF A NURSE THEN QUIT AND FIND YOU ANOTHER PATH. They are the same ones who will be in the same position as her.
The point is that a plumber would have paused before administering this medication with the warnings on the bottle. She wasn't a plumber she was a nurse
I’ve witnessed this profession suffer enough at the hands of greed. Hospitals across the nation are short staffed and asking nurses to work at an unsafe ratio pretending they will have their back. This is a clear demonstration that in fact… sh*% rolls down hill . administration was not standing behind their own, we are all accountable for our actions however I have walked into hospitals when I’ve heard nurses refuse to take report or “ the keys” because staffing was so low they felt they couldn’t do their job safely. They ussually did stick around after the manager begged and pleaded for them to stay-- knowing that’s just what nurses do. So the nurse has a miserable night, cries a little, goes home, contemplates her career choices ,sleeps and wakes up hoping for a better day. A viscous cycle that’s happening all the time-- but soon they just stop crying and stop hoping for it to be better the next day knowing it won’t. This know they will work short, maybe even get hit, spit on however no one is on their side to do anything about it. We want these people to take care of us but they are slowly becoming apathetic/burned and the institutions are nurturing the burn out right along.
(I guess I felt triggered, I’m not a “ nurse”, I’m a nurse practitioner that watches this all day long)
But are you helping or creating the issue at the end of the day? I understand it's a shitty field to work in right now but how does that help by leaving it? Doesn't it get even more short staffed? You effectively put the work load on another nurse. Just do what's right not what they want, what's it matter if they fire you, you're gonna quit anyway right? Why not try and make a difference first?
Simple solution, nurse should have followed the “five rights of a patient” and that is “to be sure and check and recheck” they are giving the right medication!” SIMPLE!!!
@@kathyjones4869 if Vanderbilt operates short staffed, they don't allow nurses the opportunity to check and recheck multiple times. Based on what I have seen of this case, Vanderbilt's administrators should be charged, and the hospital closed or sold to a more competent organization. They sacrifices her, yet they continue doing business as usual.
I’m a nurse and I agree with you.
Your making excuses for her mistake, what nurse doesn't do 7 on and 7 off of 12 shifts.
She killed someone, would you still have the same opinion if it were one of your family?
She may feel guilt but not enough that she reported it to the police rather than a whistle blower, or took the stand to say her truth regardless of what the prosecution threw at her
The only warning I see it caused, is to pay closer attention to what you are doing.
She does not need to go to prison.
Agree
Wow this is such an sad unfortunate case I feel for the family members of the patient who lost their life and at the same time I know the nurse didn't intentionally kill her. I'm praying for everyone that's been affected by this case🙏
Justice was served although hospital should have been held responsible
Its because of UNSAFETY patient - nurse ratio... A nurse is handling too much patients that cause this error ,,the hospital should be liable with this and not just only the nurse...because of the hospital system unsafety patient-nurse ratio is the reason why this is medication error happening ...and the hospital wants to clean their hands and put all the BLAME to this nurse....I am sure in the future many nurses will change their profession because of this...I am a registered nurse also and handling too much patient ...its TOTALLY UNSAFE AND THE MOST OF TE HOSPITAL DO NOTTING ABOUT IT...THEY JUST WANT TO EARN ALOT MONEY BY USING NURSES AND IN THE END ALL FAULT WILL BE GIVEN TO NURSES..
No...SHE caused it
I’m not a nurse, but I’m a direct caregiver to folks with traumatic brain injuries. I give meds, i respond to suicidality, their lives are in my hands. Mistakes happen. There’s a difference between intentional harm, neglect, egregious errors, and human errors. Appropriate punishment is called for in this case. But criminal charges is just excessive. Anyone who disagrees, try being in their shoes for a moment.
So in stead of jail she should just have to run laps around the track?
@@wtfdoyoumean9341 she’s already been stripped of her license and Vanderbilt paid off the family. She wasn’t the only one with their hands on this error.
@@wtfdoyoumean9341 why would only the daughter in law of the deceased testify and no other family members 🧐
There is likely no one in a medical profession that hasn't made a mistake. These jobs can be very high pressure at times and under some circumstances pretty much anyone can make a serious mistake. In this case the nurse is taking the blame for a systemic problem in which any number of other people could be standing in her shoes but for simple luck. She should not be shouldering the entire blame in this case.
She didn't act with intentionality, but the hospital administrators did. Where are the charges against the ones that tried to cover it up?????
@@diannaparker6111 You have a good point. The real problem lies with the supervisors that didn't fix a broken system in the first place. Like so many things, it wasn't just one error that happened, it was the result of a number of problems that led to this. I hope the judge understands this when she is sentenced.
as a nursing student this is actually kinda scary, nursing is already stressful enough and yes errors happen but now im even more afraid once i go into the real world. Im not trying to make a mistake which can cause someones life to be taken away. (Video of me addressing this issue in my channel coming soon)
I work in a hospital as a nursing student and I swear everyday of my life I get scared that I may make a mistake. It’s terrifying and overwhelming. My worst fear is being locked up for years due to a mistake
Me too!! About to start nursing school and I'm like WTF??!!!
This is so sad. We are overwhelmed often times, and unless you have been in that situation, you don't know how it feels. I have been in a situation where I had to invoke Safe Harbor due to the unsafe working assignment.
Im a cop and people don't know how hard it is sometimes. I get sleepy and accidently run over pedestrians and shoot victims. People need to understand that being a cop is hard and we should never face repercussions for what we do because Arnt we all human?
@@ryandodd8941 lol nice
Get over yourself. You know what that job entitles and you don't complain on pay day. If you can't do your job without killing someone from a mistake you made then take your butt home and work at the circle k. Only people complaining is nurses and that's damn sad.
@@jamesball8519 what the fuck do you do that's so important? We don't get paid shit, so get over yourself.
@@ryandodd8941 I'm sure that's why you beat your wife.
I was a nurse for 35 years. The public has no idea how nurses are required to work so short staffed. But what do you do? Refuse to work , lose your job, patients then have nurses spread even thinner. The vast majority of nurses are intelligent, caring, and competent, but they aren’t superhuman. I feel bad for the family, I truly do, but she had the integrity to admit what she had done whereas others would be too panicked to.
Integrity my foot. She was caught red-handed.
Well as a RN myself I don’t feel as if this is a attack on me or the nursing community. We know our responsibility to our patients is safety.
Thank you Nurse Landers.
As a nurse at Vanderbilt, we are all on pins and needles. We have no trust in our hospital and if you think it won’t change nursing, you are extremely wrong.
Understandably
If you thought nursing was in decline post Covid. Watch nurses leave the field in droves after this due to human error. I don’t think the DA knows what this precedent does
The problem with this is she had all the warning signs but was not paying attention. Radonda administrated a drug that had warning signs on it and she chose to ignore them. You should always check the medication you are giving your patient, especially if it is something you are unfamiliar with. However, she discovered her mistake and was honest - the blame should 100% also fall on both her and the hospital as they covered it up. If it was a common medicine, I don’t think she would be charged.
@@marandak9205 let's hope you are never in this situation. I expect you would want support from colleagues. Everyone of can make a mistake. Most of our mistakes won't end in the death of a patient.....but you never know let's not stab our colleagues in the back.
@@keepingitreal618 the mistake she made was not reading and protecting her patient. She was straight up negligent.
@@Jordan-nw4sj so what do you think she deserves life in prison?
@@keepingitreal618 When you are dealing with fucking peoples lives, you should be aware of what you are giving them. This was no mistake - she wasn’t paying attention and she missed all the warning signs and killed someone. Period. She didn’t double check what she was giving and let a patient who was supposed to be discharged die because SHE solely didn’t check and double check what was being given.
I Hope this is wake up call for all nurses to do your job correctly . If you going to become a nurse it’s because you love medicine and have compassion to care for others. Don’t become a nurse for the dollars. I seen terrible nurses that shouldn’t be a nurse.
As someone who used to be in the Orthotic and Prosthetic industry I frequented many nursing home/health care facilities for the elderly and infirm. On almost all occasions there was more "bad" than good going on inside those walls. Neglect,abuse,insipidness and plenty more. There are good personnel but the majority are there for that check. All of this hero status worship needs to stop along with hiring incompetence. This industry,and that's what it is will more than likely never get any better because it's not about quality it's about the bottom line. That goes for just about everything these days in this country and on the whole we have failed miserably.
lol youre an idealist. they are understaffed at the best of times and you want them to hire only ppl that truly care about the residents and not the paycheck? I dont think such a place exists anywhere in the known universe
You obviously have never worked in healthcare.
Yep it's about money and when CMS threatens your medicaid Medicare reimbursements someone is going to take the fall I that was nurse vaught tou can make all the excuses you want bottom line you gave the wrong drug. She didn't look. Those this is harsh nurses look at your fuckin drugs I don't care how busy you are.
I agree. Like that lady they interviewed. She was asking what the point was, if people didn't view them as respected or noble.
@@teegee5828 It is sad and for this reason family members must demand changes from administration instead of bitching and complaining about the nurses. A good question for a family member to ask is what is the staffing ratio. I bet most will be taken by surprise but if you want better care, patients/families must demand better ratios or nothing will change.
I will tell you what’s going on. Nurses made to work on units they never have. Staffing by a number grid not patient acuity. Lack of functional equipment. Crappy safety policies. Lack of proper orientation and education cuts. Money is the bottom line. Staff and patients are not safe. The CEOs rake in millions. Welcome to corporate healthcare. Non medical people make the rules. Congrats America. Good luck out there. Tragic. This country is doomed trying to fix the nurse shortage. Just wait. The public deserves better but they won’t get it. I cannot continue to work for Oligarchs. 90% of nurses say they intend to leave the profession.
Wow just wow this should help the nsg shortage🙄
Not following the rules and procedures cost someone their life.
What rules and procedures? Vanderbilt literally told them to override medications due to their system failures? Yes she could have done her part by doing the 5 rights but vanderbilt didn’t do their part either. How come you don’t acknowledge that?
@@Mikisaywhat The nurse admitted to being complacent. She ignored warning labels failed to scan the patients medication bracelet and when after she administered the drug she left the patient. Simple basic procedures were ignored. A price had to be paid.
Law Enforcement also feels the same way when a officer is charged for many times doing their jobs being attacked by the state / district attorney's office. Nurses will as mentioned in this video feel the exact same and often it brings up the question on why law enforcement and nurses stay in the field when such threats against them are on the line. Why protect, serve and or treat individuals if something like this comes about.
From a retired Manatee county sheriff's deputy , thank you for reading.
How about the person who died come on
We got a dancer in the background around the 2:50 mark 😂💀
On a serious note though, Radonda and her family are in my prayers as well as the Murphy family ofcourse. She was 100% a scapegoat for Vanderbilt. Disgusting.
The kid in the back ground dancing tho 😭
Vanderbilt is a shitty hospital, they pressured my mom to have my brothers organs donated after they failed to save his life after a car accident. I was in the same car accident and only had a broken nose, they failed to clean all the glass out of my ears and eyes and just left it to heal over. When I was laying in the hospital bed after the accident two surgeons came in and asked if I wanted a nose job since my nose was broken, I said no way, they said well your nose will be crooked if you don’t, I said fine, and it’s perfectly straight now. I thought it was so weird they did this, I was only 15. I have always had the weirdest feeling they killed my brother on purpose so they could harvest his organs and some time rich people control that hospital and use it for their nefarious things. Just will never sit well with me how they pressured my mother to have his Organs donated in her time of grief. Makes me sick
i think you dropped your tin foil hat half way through that.. Kinda selfish tbh think about all the lives that were saved because of it. At the end of the day there was no way they could just harvest they need consent and im sure they got it because thats kina illegal other wise.
@@tinyhippo1644 I think you need to grab your glasses and read the comment again
@@kiloton1920 the part where the evil people killed your brother that was in a car accident? Or the part where you think they sold his organs?
Yeah. A little tin foil hat thing going on here. People who work in hospitals for the most part have empathy and care and want to do the right thing. Killing someone for organs just isn't happening. That said I'm sorry for your loss.
@@wisdaniel I agree with your point but what about the people who own or control these facilities? I think it would be them and maybe one or two crooked doctors to pull something like this off a grand scale.
Nurses are going to be "extra vigilant"??? You should ALWAYS be "extra vigilant" when dealing with patients lives. NO NURSES ON AUTO-PILOT. Make it happen. NOW.
Imagine your self being that patient.
I have been a nurse for 16 years. I just walked away from my job a week ago. I can't figure out what is the zeal with this profession. I have been deposed after a patient went into cardiac arrest in a dialysis unit . She lived but the process was horrible. Administrators had us working short and did everything to cover that fact up. I am physically and emotionally exhausted with no appreciation in site with my recent job. The company offers sign on bonus but nothing for retention. I have slept well since leaving my Key on the desk. I feel for this nurse. They hung her out to dry
Are we gonna start putting doctors in jail when their mistakes kill someone or is the nurse gonna be blamed for their mistakes too?! “Nurse shoulda caught it before it got to the patient “. I worked for a dr that pulled the head off of a baby with forceps during delivery… of course, the baby is dead and he’s still practicing! BTW not his only screw up!
he probably pulled the head off on purpose!
I can't believe the comments on this video. And you were okay with this? WTH???
Was he a white man?
The nurses will probably be blamed "you administered the med! You're responsible!"
HOLY HELL! How is it possible that hes even still practicing?! Is he part of a protected group?? I know that also happened with an Indian doctor in the US who pulled the head off a baby during delivery and she's STILL practicing as well. I just wonder why certain ppl get held accountable and others dont.
I see further nursing shortages because of this verdict. I wouldn’t choose a profession where a mistake at work could end up with you going to prison. She should have just lost her license.
Hope your not a nurse
Very astute. I am a nurse and we were all stunned today at the verdict. Fortunately I'm away from the bedside now. All my coworkers vowed to never go back. Nursing groups on social media are sharing similar sentiments. We've worked through the pandemic and sacrificed every day for this? There's only so many times we can try to care for the stray dog and get bitten before we give up.
@@TheVillainOfTheYear Good Riddance.
@@nakedpnkmolerat ...says the dog in my metaphor.
Good!! Im sooo glad I hope she gets several years. All these nurses are sooo worried because they know they mess up all the time, they dont care. Its a life that was lost, she deserves YEARSSS in prison
Why should society support nurses making a mistake that cost someone their life? They’re held to a high standard for a good reason, peoples lives are in their hands, that doesn’t earn them special treatment when their incompetence interferes with their ability to do their one and only job, keep people alive.
This ruling will hurt the entire nursing vocation. With this ruling the court has started a dangerous new precedence in this aspect of law. Most agree she made an unforgiveable mistake, but to be convicted of homocide will change the way nurses go about caring for their patients. To worry about the patient and also the law at the same time is going to be too much for most people.
@@mandolinwind This case should have been tried in a Civil court and not a Criminal court.
I certainly hope it does "change the way nurses go about caring for their patients".
@@nakedpnkmolerat you're going to see healthcare staffing shortage the likes of which have never been seen before. 90% of healthcare workers are planning their exit within the next 6-12 months per a new survey
So everyone who admits their mistake and feels bad shouldn’t have consequences????? Not in my book!!!! Mistake or on purpose, either way someone lost their life, so consequences were needed here!!!
@ SteelersGirl 30 I think everyone agrees that this Nurse should have consequences but many Nurses feel that the Hospital and it's Pharmacy are also culpable for having a flimsy system that is certainly sub standard in place.
No one seemed to show any empathy for the "real" victim in this. My heart goes out to the victim's family as well, albeit I have a lot of respect for anyone who's in the medical industry.
THe victim's dead. FREE RODANDA!!
Even her family doesn't want the nurse in jail. They said she wouldn't want this. The DA is trying to make a name for himself.
The family who chose not to press charges on her?
The death of the patient was very very unfortunate. But that happened in 2017, the verdict happened a few days ago, that's why the news focused on that and not the victim. Plus the family didn't want to press charges. Had they pressed charges and been involved in the case, then their story would be news worthy but they are basically out of the picture now.
@Eric the proper term is SCAPEGOAT sir, unless you a farmer with some goats dipping out on you 🤣
This could be me! I encourage my children to look for careers elsewhere! Thank you for sharing😢🙏
don't try Police cuz yea
Other than some need for vengeance from an overzealous D A. I'm trying to figure out what judge in their right mind would sentence her to prison!
If she ends up getting some nasty sentence, that's going to totally suck.
Justice will not have prevailed in this case if she is sentenced to prison. It just makes a tragic situation worse.
This is ridiculous.
Why not? If a cop accidentally shoots someone they go to jail.
@@bobsmith6544 Ummmm Bob, are you really believing that? When a cop does anything deliberately or accidently, they're very very rarely held to account for their mistakes - often screaming Qualified immunity.
BLM. Burn Loot Murder. No one goes to prison.
@@adventureseeker9800 aRE YOU REALLY NOT BELIEVING THE truth?
@@adventureseeker9800 Kim potter, Derek Chauvin, and Mohamed Noor all got jail time.
Man what a sad day in the American judicial system once again.
This boils down to who you know and money over everything, honestly. As a nurse I know the conditions under which she had to have been working because I just went through it last night, everything from patient demands to fellow staff needing training while still being understaffed, all of it. And what I find most disgusting about this case is that the institution just gets off scotch free. There was talk about a doctor having signed the pt’s death certificate as brain bleed being the cause of death, the hospital would rather protect those falsifications and the ones who committed them because they look out more for doctors. WHY? Because doctors make them more MONEY. I have cared for a patient that now has a possible permanent colostomy that stretches across their abdomen because the patient went in to have a polyp removed, and the wrong intestine got cut into, which thank God they didn’t lose their life, but it’s resulted in permanent life changes. You think that doctor lost their license, most likely not and they’re still practicing. Nurses, the healthcare system sees us as dispensable meaning the second that they see you as more of a liability than making them the money, they’ll hold you to the fire in a hot minute. Keep God our Lord and savior first and protect yourself, we have to sacrifice and put ourselves into situations that we shouldn’t because that’s how this business is conducted, but don’t lose your well-being in the process.
When they prosecute all the AG's/DA's/public prosecutors who let killers walk free, then they can prosecute people like this.
DA who went after her should be kicked out of office.
And prosecute them when they have someone wrongfully convicted.
Absolutely
I am glad she was found guilty. Are hospital staff perfect? No. But, not reading a label it takes a second to do. Putting something into a human body and not know what it is. No excuse. I lost my 18 year old daughter to something very similar. The dead don’t come back. Maybe it will wake some up to pay more attention to what they are doing
Where is the accountability for the broken systems put in place by the hospital?
Why do the nurses look like hell? 😳😳😳
I am an RN and I can't understand how this would happen. Were the drugs not in labeled packaging?
There are checks in place to make sure it’s the right patient, right medication, right dose, right route, right time. There are also measures when signing out medications or the old fashioned way of two nurses checking the medication, or checking the order. You never administer a medication you don’t know what it is or nursing implications. I am a nurse and I am a clinical instructor for future nurses. While I think the hospital holds some responsibility, this nurse got the med, drew it up and administered it. I don’t care if you have been in nursing 1 year or 40 years, you cannot let your guard down.
Have a heart you reptile
And she has repeatedly taken full responsibility for her part in what transpired! However, VUMC all but set her & everyone else up to fail at any moment, with improper medication cabinets & certain precautionary measures not implemented in daily patient care! With all due respect, I am beyond relieved that you were not my nursing instructor! Empathy is something that can't be taught! So it makes me nervous for the nurses you are mentoring, yet also fearful!!
I haven't followed this, but what little I do know, I ask: WHERE IS THE INSTITUTION AND WHAT ARE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES? Makes me sick! Doctors have institutional backing -- why not nurses?
How do doctors get in this discussion?
Because right now this nurse is the one that killed the woman not a Dr
@@alexandraboswell2510 guess who ordered versed for a non intubated and Stepdown patient? Where was Ativan or Xanax? Guess who ordered it was okay to transport the patient without a monitor? Guess who said the death was due to natural death! Guess who wrote the second fake death certificate of vecoronium toxicity? You think doctors know what they doing? Nope! We the nurses question their orders that don't make sense many times. We the nurses are picking up after them. We the nurses have to fix their errors. Now a nurse is going yo jail because of the doctor.
@@kaykay4115 I get it girl but this is how it works life is not fair the sooner you realize that the sooner you will be happier in all fields there are the worker ants and the big bosses it will never change.
About time a white person gets what they deserve. If she was black she would've gotten more time amd it wouldn't have even made the news.
BLM. I bet she is a racist trump supporter BLM
Doctors and nurses are held at a higher standard than a cop with anger issues.
Negligence in the care of the patient, she should go to jail. Doctors and nurses in the field should be charged with negligence. Even if the family members told the nurse that the patient was allergic to the medication, the nurse continued giving the medication. She killed a person.
She looks like she's laughing
Her life is over.
This is such a sad situation. I am sending many many prayers to the nursing community, as it is not just a single individual, because med errors happen all the time. The worst part of all, the hospital too was negligent and failed to provide the precautions to help prevent this fatal med error, yet just allowing the nurse to take all the heat.
2:49 The red hoodie trying out some new dance moves in the background is the best part of this story.
Omg, I was already going through my admission process for nursing school. Took me a whole year to finish my prerequisites. Well, Yesterday I called my counselor and told her I decided not to pursue nursing anymore. Today I began enrollment in a software development program. I’ve been a CNA for years and this was the last straw for me to completely abandon healthcare. I’m very sorry for what happened to this lady and my deepest condolences to the family and friends. However, I don’t agree with the verdict.
So what job will you look into? I've also done CNA work but we never touch the meds or aren't supposed to so the liability isn't there. Just curious what you'd want to do schooling for.
@@MJ-gj6mj Software Development. It’s on my post. I used to work as a CNA and was about to start nursing school, but decided not to pursue nursing and changed to software development. Too much drama in nursing. I worked in both hospitals and nursing homes, and the drama and rudeness is always there. You can’t blame them most of the time cause they’re understaffed, overworked, and a lot of times underpaid.
This should mean that nurses NEED to unite and refuse to work without safe numerical AND acuity ratios. The look alike, sound alike drugs should never be stored together, in the same color/type packaging and the pharmacy should be responsible when they misplace a drug into the wrong compartment or store drug improperly like this was. That NEVER would have happened at any of my employments because they don't store drugs that dangerous in easy to access modules or near each other. It has to be conscious act to get a paralytic. Most drug that are that dangerous aren't even on the floor but kept in the pharmacy and given out individually and not for general use. Drugs like insulin, other sensitive drugs, pediatric drugs require TWO nurses to double check the order, the drug, the dose the delivery and the correctness. NURSE FIGHT BACK AGAINST INSITUTIONAL ABUSE AND DEMAND SAFE RATIOS AND ACUITIES.
To those who defend this, you haven't seen the facts. This is not an attack on nurses, it's holding one nurse accountable for very serious neglect and recklessness. She gave the patient a paralyzing medication instead of the prescribed sedative. Despite many red flags that she pulled the wrong medication.
What a horrible death the victim suffered.
@@tamimoncrief2264 I've got a feeling that you haven't seen all of the facts.
Lol nurses have nothing to worry about if they don't kill patients 🤷♂️
I was wondering the same thing… how the hell was that drug on the floors… those drugs are normally sent from the pharmacy upon MD request… the hospital needs to be held accountable as well
They need to somehow link vecuronium only to patients who are on mechanical ventilation. Otherwise it should only be kept in the RSI kit.
This is scary. Imagine studying for years in hope to help others and dedicating your 80% of time to work and be backbone of healthcare just to know that any system failure could possibly end your life in jail. I’m soo sorry for the person that lost their live and I’m aware the nurse is definitely responsible however, other ppl involved should be held accountable as well. There are multiple factors leading to this and most definitely a health care system failure being number 1.
I hope they know what this is doing to the nursing community. As soon as my student loans are paid off, I am getting the hell out of this profession.
Safety checks and best practices should always be reviewed.
This is the stupidest story. "It could happen to me" is such a distorted outlook. Just don't make the lethal mistake that kills a family's loved one and you're I'm the clear. Right?!
Work a 12 hour shift in an understaffed ICU and get back to me.🤡
Have you ever made a mistake in a situation where you had to act quickly, while there were at least 10 other demands on you...after working for 10 hours without the chance to eat or pee? Let's see how you do!
Sure. I took that into account. You could be an overworked Busdriver but, when you drive it off a bridge, you're still accountable for the loss of life involved. When someone's life is in your hands a mistake is unacceptable. That may be an absolutely brutal truth but it IS the reality. No mistakes that lead to loss of life is a perfectly reasonable goal and the standard expectation from anyone in a caretaker's service or anyone around that person.
I used to work in the cardiac icu. Nope. Left because it was so unsafe and not worth risking my license for. I pray for my sister because she’s an icu nurse and all the other icu nurses. You guys do so much. I wish there was more to protect you and us nurses of all specialties.
Thank you for making good decisions then. You sound like a good and competent nurse. It is correct for you to highlight the poor working conditions. But none should defend the incompetence of this nurse. Keep pushing and demanding higher standards. I'm sorry if there is sacrifice, but that's the real world and no field is immune from it. As a cardiac patient myself, having endured some pretty poor treatment by an ICU nurse after open-heart surgery, I feel very qualified to say this to you. Nothing is worth living with the harm caused to a patient because you were just too busy that day. Being competent means learning when to blow the whistle too.
The cardiac patients in the icu are well rid of you.
2:49 don't mind me just doing a little dancing while I get my 15 seconds of Fame 🤭
I would never be a nurse I saw all the women in my family leave the profession and had to hear them cry and complain.