Have Sakamata write down what Miko is saying and you'd easily have the most unbreakable secret language in existence. So unbreakable neither of them would be able to understand it either.
lmao must be why people asked her to write in furigana, which is what is used for kids to spell out the kanji in hiragana so they can read it phonetically. They’re literally asking her to translate it from Elite Japanese into actual Japanese 😂
The people who could read those characters probably forcibly awakened their sharingan on that stream just so they could understand what she's writing by tracing through each individual strokes and radicals, and not just by solely looking at what the characters that she wrote look like
I don't know man, people with terrible hand writing can read other terrible handwritings. On lazy days, I have terrible handwriting to the point where most people can't read it. But a friend of mine, who has worse handwriting can easily read it. Another example are doctor notes
@@sens8tion lol true, but I wonder if that applies to all types of handwriting? English in my opinion feels more clearer, being we only have 26, characters, and and each look pretty different, especially In cursive, allowing more visibility, but how about Korean, Japanese, or Chinese? , where their is more moving parts, and strokes that can easily be misread, Can u comprehend it as well even when it’s really sloppy? like that of English? or is it more or less dependent? And related more to the type of writin GB language.
@@heilamwether8911 interesting. I'm really not sure about this, but if your first language is like Japanese, Chinese, etc, you might be able to read better than someone who learned it as a second language. But there's probably a limit of sorts for it since it'll just a just a mess of lines and whatnot. I learned abit of Arabic(know what sounds to make for the letters) and terrible handwriting would just make the words into a long squiggly line with dots and lines around it.
Gives me hope, I draw kanji and hiragana in google translate tool sometimes and I thought mine were bad no offense to Chloe. Its all about the stroke order
Japanese people barely write kanji these days (and I mean writing by hand). Most of them use kanji on their phones or pc since Japan has a very digitized society, but outside of that they don’t really get any opportunity to write kanji after high school. Yuta had a video on it not too long ago, which was pretty informative.
@@MisterDutch93 Dunno bro, I barely write kanji and yet, and yet, even then when I write 姫 for example it doesn't look like a baby raking a pen over a paper.
In a way, her writing is a pretty good educational game since you need to identify the radicals of the kanji and then filter through your mental dictionary of words associated with them to reach an answer.
But the radicals aren’t written correctly either. I think she was doing this on purpose, to make it a guessing game, there’s no way someone who went through the Japanese education system actually writes this incorrectly.
I mean I've had my own share of bad handwriting when I was a kid and just even recently when I started learning Japanese, but considering the precision it takes to even write these characters in the first place I'm actually in awe that handwriting like this is even possible.
Fun fact, the people who can read these trace her handwriting in their head, they don't read her handwriting, but what they write in their head based on her stroke order and radicals
@@kofola9145 In handwritten japanese the order you write the signs (Kanji) in (stroke order) is very important. Based on this it is possible to read very small or unorderly writing. This is also why when learning japanese it is vitally important to learn to write all Kanji in the proper stoke order. When writing a Kanji in a different stroke order it may look different when written hastily. It is also important to be able to identify tye primary components (radicals) making up the Kanji. With a combination of recognising stroke order and primary radicals it's possible to read even to worst handwriting. It is more a case of recognising the genral flow than the actual symbols much like in english where it is often unnecessary to read every letter to recognise the word. Edit: her handwriting sucks. Mine is better and I can hardly string together two Kanji.
"Doctor, we have another overdose victim." "What is it this time, Nurse?" "He just keeps repeating "Orca writing is so cute", like a prayer." "Oh my. Seems she got another one. Put him in room A-1 for now."
The first time I saw Chloe's handwriting a while back, I thought to myself "that's pretty ok writing for an orca with flippers lol", then my second thought was "but seriously, maybe she just wrote it with her non-dominant hand as a joke". Seeing this now, I don't even know what to think. If not for actually being able to see how she wrote it, I don't think I could've read what she wrote lol
Thank you for causing me to stop believing in the stereotype that all Japanese people have good handwriting. You have helped me become a better person today.
Fun fact! Museums will sometimes hire Japanese school teachers for their help interpreting ancient texts, since they are notoriously good at being able to discern some sort of meaning out of the barest of chicken scratches.
If ur an learning kanji and ur ask to read this ur brain will just bleed U can tell by her stroke what kanji it is but if u just read it directly from her hand writing, it's mostly unreadable( but still... TSKR)
I can feel my mother's pain and annoyance when she told me to hold the knife and fork in a proper way. The only good thing about this is we get to see cute, slender (not so) orca's hand.
Yeah I thought the same thing! I rewatched Mumei’s tutorial. Apparently this is kind of "Lateral Tripod," but finger positioning is very different. I want Mumei to see how Sakamata’s holding a marker.
Me spending 2 years learning how to read / speak in japanese. And now am now able to slowly progress through games and novels “I can read japanese!” Me seeing this stream “I can’t read japanese!”
The way she hesitates mid character is like she’s trying to sketch the word out instead of writing it. Can u imagine if u hesitate in the middle of a letter
Well from my 4+ years in Japan... this feels exactly like trying to read just about anyones handwriting, the only people that seems to have readable handwritings here are other foreigners that's still worried about how to draw the kanji correctly.
Miko: elite speaking.
Sakamata: elite writing.
Have Sakamata write down what Miko is saying and you'd easily have the most unbreakable secret language in existence. So unbreakable neither of them would be able to understand it either.
Together they fuse to become the ultimate Elite form!
Nobody in existence will ever be able to understand them!
@@Archangel591 it will takes years to decipher
This is the new enigma code
Nega~
Chloe: These gloves are so long that I can even show up to my armpit if I want to!
Ollie: Well do it then, I’m waiting.
Watame: I am too
"Do it, coward. You won't"
@SHAHN MONO o7
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There's nothing wrong with her writing, this is exactly how you write in Elite Japanese.
lmao must be why people asked her to write in furigana, which is what is used for kids to spell out the kanji in hiragana so they can read it phonetically. They’re literally asking her to translate it from Elite Japanese into actual Japanese 😂
Simp
@@lildyo
Oof!
@@lildyo Well kanji is hard even some people in middle school can't read them perfectly
Doctors: we approve.
The people who could read those characters probably forcibly awakened their sharingan on that stream just so they could understand what she's writing by tracing through each individual strokes and radicals, and not just by solely looking at what the characters that she wrote look like
I don't know man, people with terrible hand writing can read other terrible handwritings.
On lazy days, I have terrible handwriting to the point where most people can't read it. But a friend of mine, who has worse handwriting can easily read it.
Another example are doctor notes
@@sens8tion lol true, but I wonder if that applies to all types of handwriting? English in my opinion feels more clearer, being we only have 26, characters, and and each look pretty different, especially In cursive, allowing more visibility, but how about Korean, Japanese, or Chinese? , where their is more moving parts, and strokes that can easily be misread, Can u comprehend it as well even when it’s really sloppy? like that of English? or is it more or less dependent? And related more to the type of writin GB language.
5 years of japanese study progress called into question by an orca
:sadge:
@@heilamwether8911 interesting. I'm really not sure about this, but if your first language is like Japanese, Chinese, etc, you might be able to read better than someone who learned it as a second language.
But there's probably a limit of sorts for it since it'll just a just a mess of lines and whatnot. I learned abit of Arabic(know what sounds to make for the letters) and terrible handwriting would just make the words into a long squiggly line with dots and lines around it.
@@sens8tion I can't even read my own writing
It's nice to know that writing like this can still be interpreted & even I have the decent chance when writing kanji
Gives me hope, I draw kanji and hiragana in google translate tool sometimes and I thought mine were bad no offense to Chloe. Its all about the stroke order
Yeah stroke order really helps to make it far more consistent and readable. The results really surprised me when I tried it on myself
Japanese people barely write kanji these days (and I mean writing by hand). Most of them use kanji on their phones or pc since Japan has a very digitized society, but outside of that they don’t really get any opportunity to write kanji after high school. Yuta had a video on it not too long ago, which was pretty informative.
@@MisterDutch93 Dunno bro, I barely write kanji and yet, and yet, even then when I write 姫 for example it doesn't look like a baby raking a pen over a paper.
@@LSDOvideos Another post in the comments suggested she's using her weak hand while writing to protect her privacy, which could be true.
In a way, her writing is a pretty good educational game since you need to identify the radicals of the kanji and then filter through your mental dictionary of words associated with them to reach an answer.
tbh if u recognize these radicals properly that probably means your memory of them isn't very correct LOL
But the radicals aren’t written correctly either. I think she was doing this on purpose, to make it a guessing game, there’s no way someone who went through the Japanese education system actually writes this incorrectly.
So just basic reading
If native Japanese can't read her handwriting, then I don't need to either.
@@EJDoesEverythingBetterどの学校にも必ず「例外」は存在するよ。例外達は基礎的能力が低いが､特異な能力を持っている人間が多い｡
Tht handwriting can compete with miko speaking japanese
getting her autograph would be adorable
That wouldn’t be an autograph. That’d be doctor’s handwriting 😂
I don't think that exist as Japanese use stamps instead
You’re right~ In both her 3D debut stream and SSholoX 3D stream, she didn’t put an autograph on her end messages 😅
@@KiroHayashi I'm pretty sure they do have autograph signing things tho
That's based off the fact that there are signatures in im@s
Chloe: "My gloves are long enough so that I can show my armpit no problem!"
Watame: "INTERESTING, can you please demonstrate?"
I like how your comment is in every single Hololive/Vtuber video I come across. Legend
Bruh its the neuron activation guy
I bet its like a full time job to comment to all of these clips
最初汚すぎて利き手じゃない方で書いてるのかと思ったけど違った。どうやったらここまで汚く書けるのかすこし興味がある。
someone tell Sakamata to become a doctor.... with that hand writing, she would fit right in
"1 dose of poe poe poe each day for 5 weeks to you"
"and you, you have to watch my stream for 15 hours in 1 month to recover"
I mean I've had my own share of bad handwriting when I was a kid and just even recently when I started learning Japanese, but considering the precision it takes to even write these characters in the first place I'm actually in awe that handwriting like this is even possible.
Fun fact, the people who can read these trace her handwriting in their head, they don't read her handwriting, but what they write in their head based on her stroke order and radicals
The what?
Ok, I think I know what you mean.
So the people who can "read" these actually read her hand movements and not the actual symbols lmao
@@kofola9145 In handwritten japanese the order you write the signs (Kanji) in (stroke order) is very important. Based on this it is possible to read very small or unorderly writing. This is also why when learning japanese it is vitally important to learn to write all Kanji in the proper stoke order.
When writing a Kanji in a different stroke order it may look different when written hastily.
It is also important to be able to identify tye primary components (radicals) making up the Kanji.
With a combination of recognising stroke order and primary radicals it's possible to read even to worst handwriting. It is more a case of recognising the genral flow than the actual symbols much like in english where it is often unnecessary to read every letter to recognise the word.
Edit: her handwriting sucks. Mine is better and I can hardly string together two Kanji.
Readable just not when it's done got it
@@lars7935 Thanks for the info. I am just beginning to learn how to write and read Kanji, got any tips for that, since you seem to know a bit.
"Doctor, we have another overdose victim."
"What is it this time, Nurse?"
"He just keeps repeating "Orca writing is so cute", like a prayer."
"Oh my. Seems she got another one. Put him in room A-1 for now."
Good Doctor, what do you mean by an overdose victim?
"I've practiced medicine for all my life, and I've never seen such terrible demonic scrawl before. It clearly drove him to insanity."
Should the Holy Church get involved then? Perhaps he can still be saved!
Oh no, he's drowning in steak sauce now.
@@DRida64 Lol holy shit. I just noticed that. 🤣
The first time I saw Chloe's handwriting a while back, I thought to myself "that's pretty ok writing for an orca with flippers lol", then my second thought was "but seriously, maybe she just wrote it with her non-dominant hand as a joke".
Seeing this now, I don't even know what to think. If not for actually being able to see how she wrote it, I don't think I could've read what she wrote lol
It's because of how she hold the pen
@@omegazell23 I dont think that’s the case at all. There’s no way someone could have such little control with the pen with the way she’s holding it
Talking about flippers. Every time Gura claps, ... i can't distinguish it from the sound of flippers being slapped.
@@omegazell23 i hold my pen the same and have the same name, i know chinese and i don't think my handwriting is as horrible
@@clobre_ ooh ok :0 then she just have a messy handwriting I guess lmaoo
Imagine being her teacher in high school, after a few days your conscious would reach a new level and you could speak with Cthulu with no problem.
Her hand writing is like me doing some quick random lines when there's no ink coming out of my pen at the back page of my notebook.
I'm surprised I'm not the only one who does this lol.
Many Holomem got different personality quirks and Chloe got the chicken scrawling as a writing, but it makes her more adorable
She just visualized what Kanji looks like to the average non east Asian person Lol
I’m legit impressed with her handwriting. It can’t be easy writing with flippers after all!😆
Condolences for all of her teachers from kindergarten to high school...
Thank you for causing me to stop believing in the stereotype that all Japanese people have good handwriting. You have helped me become a better person today.
Fun fact! Museums will sometimes hire Japanese school teachers for their help interpreting ancient texts, since they are notoriously good at being able to discern some sort of meaning out of the barest of chicken scratches.
There is a field of study called Palaeography which focuses on that.
That’s actually a really interesting fact
They should start hiring shiikuin
"You may take a shower only if you approve calligraphy"
- Chloe's mom, probably
If you ever feel bad about your handwriting, keep in mind that Sakamata exists.
Stop
Let's just say I'm a bane to those who like to copy answers in an exam from a seatmate.
If ur an learning kanji and ur ask to read this ur brain will just bleed
U can tell by her stroke what kanji it is but if u just read it directly from her hand writing, it's mostly unreadable( but still... TSKR)
I'm more impressed that someone can read it
私は誰かがそれを読むことができることにもっと感銘を受けました
I can feel my mother's pain and annoyance when she told me to hold the knife and fork in a proper way.
The only good thing about this is we get to see cute, slender (not so) orca's hand.
This is calligraphy
NO
@@entroopyes
Chloe's handwriting is like my doctor's daily subscription of migraine medication
Bruh in China or smth iirc they use like combos of incomplete circle rings and dashes and shit to prescribe you smth.
I thought I was bad at kanji. Thanks for the clip and that confidence boost.
Not a surprise, considering how she holds that marker. Sakamata should watch Mumei tutorial lol
Yeah I thought the same thing! I rewatched Mumei’s tutorial. Apparently this is kind of "Lateral Tripod," but finger positioning is very different. I want Mumei to see how Sakamata’s holding a marker.
.. that's not the issue. An avg jpns could make a fist, tape the pen to their hand and write neater.
its just like what they said you cant have everything
She is so adorable! It feels like i am watching a video with kittens.... that's so cute 😍
Omg Chloe's voice and excitement is one of the cutest things in all hololive
見て分かるというよりかは人間の錯覚を利用してて草
Miko got elite Japanese speaking
Chloe got elite Japanese writing
oh no, it's all coming together
I will never feel bad about my kanji writings ever again
She could be a doctor with that kind of handwriting
kanji is already hard to read by itself...imagine written by Chloe with her beautiful handwriting.
When you put the translation game on Inferno difficulty
I'm learning Japanese so in a way Chloe's elite handwriting makes me feel better about my penmanship lol
The way she holds a pen LMAO That explains everything
There is nothing wrong with the way she holds that pen. That handwriting is just full out terrible lol. It's deliberate
@@iGhost I tried it her way and the letters started to deform horizontally the same way. It's impossible with the middle finger in the way.
She writes like if she was underwater
Makes me feel a little bit better
I need both a Chloe to Japanese and a Japanese to English translator for this writing……
Now translate from Chloe to Elite English to Japanese and then to English
@@InfernityZ3r0 We skipped da baby Luna language
1:31 薔薇と書いてバラバラ
Me spending 2 years learning how to read / speak in japanese. And now am now able to slowly progress through games and novels
“I can read japanese!”
Me seeing this stream
“I can’t read japanese!”
After 2yrs of studying Japanese: “Have confidence! :D “
After 2min of watching Chloe’s handwriting: “No confidence! :D “
That’s what I call
_Sakamata Scripture_
Very elite writing
I don't know what i expected but it certainly left me speechless.
It's kind of satisfying to watch her write those monstrosities
Chloe: Shows hands
*Yoshikage Kira would like to know your location*
There is Elite English, Math Shark and Handwriting Orca. All under Hololive.
Miko elite-> sakamata elite-> unbreakable WW3 secret message tech
*[Calligraphists start foaming at the mouth]*
Possibly just a joke but, really shows how learning strokes can help with writing. seems like such a trivial task but its so important.
The way she hesitates mid character is like she’s trying to sketch the word out instead of writing it. Can u imagine if u hesitate in the middle of a letter
The ancient hieroglyphs
I guess she’s my spirit animal in handwriting.
That is either ancient texts or a doctors prescription.
Chloe a doctor irl confirmed
At this point, it's easier to guess from the stroke order than at the final product
Maybe she's secretly a doctor
I had Chinese Mandarin in mid and high school and my hanzi handwriting looked exactly like this lol
Even the Gaijin can tell the superiorness of elite writing
Im expecting a “ITS THE GLOVES” from most
I can finally be proud of my Japanese writing after this...
I'm learning how to speak/write Japanese and I'm happy to know that I will have Elite Handwriting like Chloe
I actually understood the last one since I have really bad handwriting myself xD
Each time I feel bad about my written Japanese I just look at some native handwriting and feel way better instantly.
How did a cute way of holding a marker produce that handwriting 🤣
Someone that memorized the stroke order of radicals and kanjis - my time has come.
I don't need to master Japanese characters to appreciate her unique font style
Yes.
the penmanship certainly...shows.
Coopium
It's like looking at an abstract expressionist painting
A cool game for hololive official streams, Chloe writes something and miko says while EN tries to figure it out
only pharmacist and doctor can understand that handwriting. she must be genius
And I thought my handwriting was terrible 😂
And here I thought that every japanese writing is beautiful XD but this is just too Elite and powafull
Sakamata: Please read this.
Everyone: uh...that's a box?
I would glady pay for Wanikani: Sakamata Chloe edition.
As a beginner, this gives me hope
Nothing's messier than my life...
until I saw this
im impressed with her chat
English speaker: I want to get something written in Chinese or Japanese characters, they are so elegant.
Chloe: *draws a bowl of epileptic ramen*
"Guess what it says!"
"I'll literally have to guess at this point."
Always nice to see someone upgrade to non-serial killer gloves.
average doctor’s prescription hand writing
Sakamata making viewers use 100% of their brains
That's like my writing when i return to school after a long vacation
I went to class with a local and their writing when it’s not for a grade, is legible enough for them to read.
She writes the way Mikochi talks. Thats wild.
Such adorable handwriting! Maybe one day she will learn to write in her language
This makes me feel good at my clumsy japanese. Thanks Chloe.
Damn ... So This Is What Japanese Doctor Handwriting Look Like...
At least this look slightly legible unlike Cyrillic cursive handwriting
@@musab.k.9870 Ah yes... _mmmmmmb_
So surprised to find that there’s someone out there that writes in Minecraft Enchanting table language on a daily basis
Well from my 4+ years in Japan... this feels exactly like trying to read just about anyones handwriting, the only people that seems to have readable handwritings here are other foreigners that's still worried about how to draw the kanji correctly.
that hand writing reminds of a dirt path after a bunch of chickens passed by
She is like writing with a mouse but with hand
Chloe writing....
Listeners : Quick~!!! Activate the Enigma!!!!!